I don't know where you are from, but I have traveled around a lot, and Wisconsin is a wonderful State, it ranks high in a lot of metrics. .. but there is a lot of room for improvement, and criminal justice is a national issue. Wisconsin has bungled this case in a very public way however, and needs to atone and evolve.
@@assertivekarma1909 How many other people have they incarcerated and killed? They aren't going to atone any more than the Catholic church of child rape. They have systematically covered their own asses.
For those who believe Avery actually did ask your self how there wasn’t a single finger print on the entire car but he left his blood which would be visible to him? Who covers up what they can’t see and forgets the obvious blood. All the DNA evidence is either theresas or Averys never a mixture which is virtually impossible if he was actively bleeding in the front of the car
How about the idea that, according to the prosecutors, Avery left her car on his property, her body on his property, her key in his room but was able to clean the crime scenes of his bedroom and garage (both incredibly cluttered) of all blood and any other evidence like a pro? Crazy stuff the doesn't add up.
Muna 19 what about his hair in the car, none found! None of his DNA, except blood DNA found “in” the car! No bogus sweat DNA found in the car that should have been on the steering wheel and the shifter! None of his blood found in the trunk of the car! None of her DNA found in his house or garage! Not one drop of her blood or a single hair found on the Avery property that belonged to her!!!
The hood of the car was not tested for fingerprint ID tells you everything, they couldnt plant that evidence , fingerprints are one of the first things looked for , and if as they say he did lift the hood leaving the 'sweat' DNA he surely would have left fingerprint evidence to solidify there case , but choosing not to even test for them is proof they knew they wouldnt be found
Even if you had the real killer confess the state would never release steven and branden as it was an inside job, real justice will prevail on judgment day on these criminal cops and prosecuters
Its sad but true. If the truth ever came out the justice system would not only have to pay x amount to brendon and steven but would have to investigate every single case and fire alot of people. It would cost the state billions. Poor steven has missed so much of his life
It's totally clear that Avery and Dassey are innocent. I'm a fan of law enforcement, but not these, and that rot runs right up the chain. All of this to save $36 million. I really like Zellner, and I hope she can cut through this rot!
@@BT-kc3ee Any evidence to back your claim? Sound more like what prosecutors do hiding exculpatory evidence to convict innocent men, EXACTLY like they did the first time to Steven.
@@BT-kc3ee The lawyer's job is to create doubt and she exposes alot of flaws in the investigation that has created alot of doubt. One sided or not, if you stab and slit someone you will find some trace if blood inaide the trailer yet not a trace of it. Even if you clean it up well chemicals will always expose blood. The garage disnt have a single srop of blood either. If S.A. blew Teresa's brains out in the garage where is the evdience. Enough doubt to say he is not guilty
I fully agree. This is the most obvious case of state level corruption I've ever seen. All this to save the inevitable millions of dollars. Anybody who is taking the side of Kratz (rhymes with rats!) or the prosecution case clearly lacks basic intellect and awareness and shouldn't be afforded a voice.
I loved season 2, even though it made me furious. The only thing I have to critique is that the season easily could have been 7-8 episodes long, instead of 10. So many fillers..
Yep they will probably decline her motion, and avery will die in prison, but I know one thing for sure, if they get a new trial, Avery and his lawyer will no doubt win the case hands down, just because she will put lots of reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury
My guess is that several of these cops end up with self inflicted GSW’s. No way in hell they will ever be arrested and forced to answer for their lies.
I know I’m late but they should pass a law where when cops search a vehicle or anything it must be recorded and the public must be able to see the video, i think this will stop any chance of dirty police planting evidence and give the public more courage towards the police
Can someone please explain to me what the hell the family of Teresa hallback is thinking? Going through pain and experiencing of loss does really does cloud ones judgement. How can they could they believe Steven Avery did this. Do they want justice for Teresa or do they just want to someone to be held accountable regardless of whether they are guilty?
I have seen this series from Spain on Netfix and it is furious to see such injustice and police and institutional corruption. It is a shame the defense attorney for Steve's younger nephew, the police, the prosecutor. Then the USA Democracy is said modern and fair. I don't know what they believe. In medieval times there was more justice
I'm sorry to say that the systemic problems we have with our institutions are only going to be resolved when we start investing in, and listening to, other parts of the country outside of the main hubs. The city of Manitowoc looks down on the people in the rural areas, Madison and Milwaukee look down on the rest of the state, and other large commercial hubs are the same way. This discussion revolves around the idea of UW- Madison (simply referred to as UW) saving us from this ordeal, but the truth is their own sense of brilliance falls short of what they actually provide. Madison is already the hub of political initiatives, and as the capital that won't change, but it has failed to master the issues or understand the rest of the state. The other institutions often have students/faculty that are more "intelligent" and grounded in the fabric of the state than many at UW- Madison, but the good ole boy network at the top of the pyramid is tainted in Badger arrogance. UW- Madison doesn't even have a full fledged criminal justice system, most law enforcement is not attending UW Madison as UW- Madison emphasizes the prestigious and lucrative (and broken) components of our institutions. Invest throughout the State, invest throughout the country, invest in making a system that isn't corrupt and is something we can be proud of! AND for gosh sakes, address the evidence in this very public Avery/Dassey case in a competent, efficient manner!
Those 2 Cops were going to be on the hook for Avery’s lawsuit! Why is it such a far stretch to not come out and accuse them of killing this innocent girl!? They were probably casing the Avery lot for months! Noticed this photographer come and go from the lot often and one day made sure that her last known whereabouts was at stevens! Probably flagged her down or pulled her over off of cuss road there where the scent dogs were. Killed her and than held on and cleaned incriminating evidence. And planted it when the time and place was right with a little extra dna on there.
After watching both, to me, it's clear teresa's brothers are involved. The smirking, the deleting of the voicemails ect, I don't believe brendans brother or step dad are involved, but for some reason Stevens aunt rubs me the wrong way, there's something about her, maybe it's because she didn't like Steven for years and her husband being a cop, or the fact she keeps throwing herself into the investigation and stuff.
One thing the prosecution hasn’t and can’t provide is a shred of evidence that they investigated anyone but Avery. They have to keep the focus on him now cause they have no other investigating of anyone else to speak of.
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season 3 can't come quick enough
Michael michael they said they more than likely aren’t doing one, i at least know zellner isn’t currently being filmed
@@Coymen-bu1uv at the end of the second series looks like they would do a 3rd ... I hope they do
Citizens shouldn't have to spend an exorbitant amount of money on their defense in order to not get screwed by the Criminal Justice system.
I agree. Whatever resources the prosecution receives should automatically be extended to the defense.
We live in an incompetent society? Great! Let's bring children into the world!
This is the worst part of our justice system. Rich folks get off all the time for crimes the working class would do heavy sentences for.
That state is an embarrassment to the USA
All the courts are treasonous felons....
I don't know where you are from, but I have traveled around a lot, and Wisconsin is a wonderful State, it ranks high in a lot of metrics. .. but there is a lot of room for improvement, and criminal justice is a national issue. Wisconsin has bungled this case in a very public way however, and needs to atone and evolve.
Our justice system is incompetent? Great! Let's bring children into the world!
@@assertivekarma1909 How many other people have they incarcerated and killed? They aren't going to atone any more than the Catholic church of child rape. They have systematically covered their own asses.
Wisconsin can VERY easily fix this, have a re trial.. However, $36 million is a lot of money sooo
For those who believe Avery actually did ask your self how there wasn’t a single finger print on the entire car but he left his blood which would be visible to him? Who covers up what they can’t see and forgets the obvious blood. All the DNA evidence is either theresas or Averys never a mixture which is virtually impossible if he was actively bleeding in the front of the car
Muna 19 yup. It’s sad
How about the idea that, according to the prosecutors, Avery left her car on his property, her body on his property, her key in his room but was able to clean the crime scenes of his bedroom and garage (both incredibly cluttered) of all blood and any other evidence like a pro? Crazy stuff the doesn't add up.
Muna 19 what about his hair in the car, none found! None of his DNA, except blood DNA found “in” the car! No bogus sweat DNA found in the car that should have been on the steering wheel and the shifter! None of his blood found in the trunk of the car!
None of her DNA found in his house or garage! Not one drop of her blood or a single hair found on the Avery property that belonged to her!!!
The hood of the car was not tested for fingerprint ID tells you everything, they couldnt plant that evidence , fingerprints are one of the first things looked for , and if as they say he did lift the hood leaving the 'sweat' DNA he surely would have left fingerprint evidence to solidify there case , but choosing not to even test for them is proof they knew they wouldnt be found
Don't 4get it was blood flakes not droplets!!!#Free tha GUYS
Even if you had the real killer confess the state would never release steven and branden as it was an inside job, real justice will prevail on judgment day on these criminal cops and prosecuters
Its sad but true. If the truth ever came out the justice system would not only have to pay x amount to brendon and steven but would have to investigate every single case and fire alot of people. It would cost the state billions. Poor steven has missed so much of his life
It's totally clear that Avery and Dassey are innocent. I'm a fan of law enforcement, but not these, and that rot runs right up the chain. All of this to save $36 million. I really like Zellner, and I hope she can cut through this rot!
It's 'totally clear' from the biased documentary you mean. The documentary that picks and chooses what evidence to show the audience. Open your eyes
You are a fan of habitually lying, treasonous, murdering kidnapping extortionists, please do tell?
@@BT-kc3ee Any evidence to back your claim? Sound more like what prosecutors do hiding exculpatory evidence to convict innocent men, EXACTLY like they did the first time to Steven.
@@BT-kc3ee
The lawyer's job is to create doubt and she exposes alot of flaws in the investigation that has created alot of doubt. One sided or not, if you stab and slit someone you will find some trace if blood inaide the trailer yet not a trace of it. Even if you clean it up well chemicals will always expose blood. The garage disnt have a single srop of blood either. If S.A. blew Teresa's brains out in the garage where is the evdience. Enough doubt to say he is not guilty
I fully agree. This is the most obvious case of state level corruption I've ever seen. All this to save the inevitable millions of dollars. Anybody who is taking the side of Kratz (rhymes with rats!) or the prosecution case clearly lacks basic intellect and awareness and shouldn't be afforded a voice.
Free Avery and Dassey!!!
I loved season 2, even though it made me furious. The only thing I have to critique is that the season easily could have been 7-8 episodes long, instead of 10. So many fillers..
@@sherlockholmes4700 I get what they were doing, to let us get to know the family, but some scenes were beyond unnecessary.
Great S2
2:53 "The Innoncent Project". Clearly nobody forensically checked the spelling 😂
i noticed that, too SMH
So December 20th we'll know?
I think they'll cover it up......like they have done so far.
Yep they will probably decline her motion, and avery will die in prison, but I know one thing for sure, if they get a new trial, Avery and his lawyer will no doubt win the case hands down, just because she will put lots of reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury
All about 36 million dollars
My guess is that several of these cops end up with self inflicted GSW’s. No way in hell they will ever be arrested and forced to answer for their lies.
I know I’m late but they should pass a law where when cops search a vehicle or anything it must be recorded and the public must be able to see the video, i think this will stop any chance of dirty police planting evidence and give the public more courage towards the police
Strang should have watched the 2nd season before this interview.
Exactly my thoughts
Can someone please explain to me what the hell the family of Teresa hallback is thinking? Going through pain and experiencing of loss does really does cloud ones judgement. How can they could they believe Steven Avery did this. Do they want justice for Teresa or do they just want to someone to be held accountable regardless of whether they are guilty?
And brother Mike was "grieving" her loss when she was still only a missing person...
I have seen this series from Spain on Netfix and it is furious to see such injustice and police and institutional corruption. It is a shame the defense attorney for Steve's younger nephew, the police, the prosecutor.
Then the USA Democracy is said modern and fair. I don't know what they believe. In medieval times there was more justice
I'm sorry to say that the systemic problems we have with our institutions are only going to be resolved when we start investing in, and listening to, other parts of the country outside of the main hubs. The city of Manitowoc looks down on the people in the rural areas, Madison and Milwaukee look down on the rest of the state, and other large commercial hubs are the same way. This discussion revolves around the idea of UW- Madison (simply referred to as UW) saving us from this ordeal, but the truth is their own sense of brilliance falls short of what they actually provide. Madison is already the hub of political initiatives, and as the capital that won't change, but it has failed to master the issues or understand the rest of the state. The other institutions often have students/faculty that are more "intelligent" and grounded in the fabric of the state than many at UW- Madison, but the good ole boy network at the top of the pyramid is tainted in Badger arrogance. UW- Madison doesn't even have a full fledged criminal justice system, most law enforcement is not attending UW Madison as UW- Madison emphasizes the prestigious and lucrative (and broken) components of our institutions. Invest throughout the State, invest throughout the country, invest in making a system that isn't corrupt and is something we can be proud of! AND for gosh sakes, address the evidence in this very public Avery/Dassey case in a competent, efficient manner!
Those 2 Cops were going to be on the hook for Avery’s lawsuit! Why is it such a far stretch to not come out and accuse them of killing this innocent girl!? They were probably casing the Avery lot for months! Noticed this photographer come and go from the lot often and one day made sure that her last known whereabouts was at stevens! Probably flagged her down or pulled her over off of cuss road there where the scent dogs were. Killed her and than held on and cleaned incriminating evidence. And planted it when the time and place was right with a little extra dna on there.
Those two interviews didn't understand a lick of what Jerry Buting said at the end... he lost them really early with that answer. Lol...
After watching both, to me, it's clear teresa's brothers are involved. The smirking, the deleting of the voicemails ect, I don't believe brendans brother or step dad are involved, but for some reason Stevens aunt rubs me the wrong way, there's something about her, maybe it's because she didn't like Steven for years and her husband being a cop, or the fact she keeps throwing herself into the investigation and stuff.
You are confused.
One thing the prosecution hasn’t and can’t provide is a shred of evidence that they investigated anyone but Avery. They have to keep the focus on him now cause they have no other investigating of anyone else to speak of.
can barely hear
Did you say Katherine Zellner, her name is Kathleen.
Nix Nux, we know who they mean by the name!!
Cool!!! Now I can go to bed in peace.. cool dude
Go Deeper...Talking Dassey/Fassbender in Court and Kakatsch. Over and out.
Steven is Avery innocent man!!
I’m disappointed that Donald trump pardoned lil Wayne but not Avery
He is inocente
I like Dean Strang....but he might be spoofing the public there by saying he hasn't watched all of "Making a murderer Part 2"...Don't believe him.
When interviewers are dressed well the more well dressed they are the more out of touch with humanity the become. Isn't that funny.
These hosts do a good job most of the time, but I agree that fancy clothing is often just lipstick on a pig.