Best 7800X3D RAM Speed?
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Could you test slower cheaper ram?
Could you. Tell me what I should set my ram speed to(2x16Gb) with my New ryzen 7900 (non x)..?
Thx!
Sir, i need ur advice for my first build. How do i get in touch with you?
Suggest a budget pc build. My idea is : i5-13600K or ryzen 5 7600X , 13500INR motherboard, 3000INR (8*2=16GB)Ram, 500GB Nvme M.2 SSD,650W power supply, 60Hz monitor, 500 INR keyboard mouse set, *NO GPU*.
confused between ryzen and intel. Softwares to be used are: Anaconda, Android studio(app development) , power bi. No 3D modelling ,no video editing , no graphical work and no Gaming .
What if I want 4 ram sticks? 4x8? Will upgrade my case eventually to a beauty glass one so will be nice to have rgb on em for sure and 4 looks way better than 2 sticks so is it any down side about that? Or should I stay with 2 sticks and just choose how much ram I want?
This is the ONLY chip I'm considering right now
Check out the full build guide linked!
What about the 13900k?
@@josesemino8284consumes a lot of wattage and is hard to cool
@@josesemino82847800x3d is the better gaming CPU, so why consider the 13900k if all ur doing is gaming. if u want productivity get the i9
@@Snxguris that mean if I’m streaming/gaming I should get i9 13900K?
Not all games take advantage of this massive 3d v cache, therefore games that dont will take a massive hit in performance when paired with 5200 cl40. 6000 CL32 kits are far too cheap to not pick one up if you are getting a top tier cpu
this must explain why my 6000 MHz kit runs at 175 fps average in my most played game Rust, but when EXPO isn’t enabled and the RAM runs at 4800 MHz I only got 93 fps average.
@@Squashed8Ballunderclocking ram will always make your pc run horribly, not just fps but load times and other shit
Not all, of course. There will always be an exception to everything anyway. 🤷♂️
5200 cl40 is crazy slow
And am here with 3000 hehe 7 years back it was epic to have 3000 😮 but ya I can feel it getting old now 😂
This guys awesome, by far the best and easiest to understand RUclips channel for pc builds/etc out there. Thank you for your videos!
Thanks for the feedback! So glad you're enjoying them, stay tuned for more great content :)
Slower DDR5 RAM: $100
Faster DDR5 RAM: $150
Slower GPU: $500
Faster GPU: $1000+
With the current GPU prices, it's not wise to compromise on the cheaper parts of your PC.
500 gets you used 16gb AMD cards and they're fast
Thank you for the great content as always Jason 😊
Thanks for watching!
Built my first ever PC with this chip. Thank you for such a great recommendation! I have not turned on the expo. Too scared for voltage issue
Congrats on your first build! Check out our “After You Build” set up guide for more on that
I’ve been running the 7800x3d on an asus x670e-a board with gskill ddr5 6000 cl 30 with expo enabled now for over 2 months and it’s been rock solid. Just remember to update your bios.
@@PCBuilderChannel where is that video mate? now that you mention I always wanted a video like that!! where I can tuned up my pc after building it and setting everything properly like bios/overclocking and more. I would love to watch it!
Expo is litterally designed to be easy. It's one of the first things i enabled in bios and i can tell the speed improvement it made in productivity apps
oh you are the best! Exactly what i wanted to know. Im building a full new PC for gaming with a R7 7800X3D chip. And people around me all are heavy hyped for faster RAM.. but me ? bang for buck 🎉
This was so helpful and very easy to understand. I don't think I'd get my first build done if it weren't for you
So glad we could help!!
It may not matter in gaming benchmarks but I have noticed my system is more responsive and loads programs faster with higher frequency ram. Currently running 6800mhz CL32 on my 7950x3d.
I'm running 6200 cl30 with buildzoids easy ram timings and everything is stable. Might as well get the most out of my parts even if it doesn't need it persay.
100% Why leave speed off the table when you already paid for it. I have tested two AM5 3d chips and both hit 6400 with tight timings.
@@njasickocan you tell me which is the best motherboard for ryzen 7 7800x3d? Which one do you have to reach the stable 6400mhz of ram? I know it depends on the memory controller of the cpu, but I don't know which motherboard to get to have the least possible latency.

I gained 40fps to minimums with buildzoids timings in warzone 2 lol. This guy just not testing the right games.
Is ddr5 5600 cl 36 good?
Next year my new cpu... waiting for the price to drop a bit more!
Thankyou you are a life saver
Happy to help!
great content as always. thinking about buying a 7800x3D myself, in your other video while you recommended at least a 7900xt or a 4070ti with the 7800x3D, I’ve really been eyeing the ASRock Phantom Gaming RX 6950xt @ around $600 on newegg. seems like an amazing deal. would the 6950xt be worth it? mainly aiming to play cpu-intensive or multiplayer games on 1440p 144fps or 1080p 240fps with high-medium graphics.
Can i use A G Skill Ripjawas 6000 mhz cl32 which is Intel XMP enabled on a AMD b650 motherboard with it’s full potential?
A 5600 CL28 test would’ve been nice
7800X3D's RAM speed ratings are 5200 for 2DIMMs per channel and 3600 for 2 DIMMs per channel. For gaming, would it be better to run one or two dimm configuration?? Thanks
Test with 6400 mhz cl 32. Those kits are stable now with the latest bios
I just built a 7800x3d with g.skill ddr5-6000 30-40-40-96 (2 x 32gb). EXPO would cause no boot, but manually setting the speed and timings and also 1.35v on the memory and now it's solid at those settings.
That said, as I was testing and bumping in the mhz 200 at a time I noticed about a 100 point improvement overall in the TimeSpy 3dmark score between about 5200mhz and 6000mhz. Not a lot, but it's something I guess.
@slandshark Might be because its a x3d chip. I've had a 7950x and has been able to boot 6400mhz cl32 since the beginning
I'm using 6400 CL32 with mine. No issues.
if i dont plan to overclock this cpu should i worry about voltage problems or anything else?
I'm using 6000 CL32, no issues too.@@supafly208
Well, I didn't know that. Not even expecting it.
I'll add these to my build
In the future do you think the ram will be completely replaced by the cpu cache?
I got 2x16Gb of 6000Mhz cl30 expo for my 7800x3d. I was planning on getting a 7700x but found a 7800x3d for the same price.
did you get trident? this is what im looking at for my 7800x3d
@@franda777 No. These are my specs:
MSI B650 Tomahawk
7800x3d
Sapphire 7800xt Nitro
2x16GB Corsair 6000MHz cl30 expo
@@mjribes ah okay, is it the vengeance kit? Sorry this is my first build
@@franda777 Yup!
@@mjribesbro this is literally my build haha good choice ig
What about benefits of overlocking or undervolting RAM?
I think it is pretty crazy that RAM doesnt matter in pretty much every game, but if you check out Star Citizen you will see that RAM does matter and can give you a pretty significant boost in performance, just a thought. Would love to see your take on it since it is possible to get more performance but for that games need to start leveraging the technology available a little more.
Check out our Best RAM for Gaming 2023 video for more!
RAM up to about 40-44GBs absolutely matters in SC. People who say otherwise do not know what they’re talking about.
Does this also apply to non x3d cpus like the 7600?
Помню, как у тебя было всего 1000 подписчиков, я был уверен, что ты будешь развиваться
Давно это было?
How much grunt work is DDR5 doing compared to DDR4?
This guy is always so helpful.
Glad we could help :)
Any thoughts about the budget am5 chip 7500f?
have you ever read the manual for the AMD radeon Center how that ram can be benefitial for ryzen offf my bad afcouse you diding no one reads the manual to unlock ther true AMD potential
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Genuinely depends on the use case. Some games are very sensitive to faster ram speed, biggest outlier being Star Citizen.
FYI, you can do 6400mhz cl30 with very tight subtimings on Hynix die. 1% low improvements greater than 10% in a lot of popular titles
Question, why do they say whether day have xmp or expo? Is it just marketing to help them sell
What about 4K Ultra detail and including 0.1% lows?
Speed does not matter a lot but timings do make a bit difference. In some games that to not fit in the L3 benefit a lot from lower latency dram and tweaked subtimings. Faster infinity fabric clocks also help to improve the gaming performance. With new biosses 2167MHz works more easy. Undervolting the soc helps for stability (start with - 1.100-1.150v.
Can you also test on Rust? A very CPU and RAM bound game
Yes
Thank for the clarification! But as far as budget -The CPU is where you’ll cut back unless you’re talking 7900 xtx or 4080 right? I mean $150 less for a 13600k would go a long way towards a better GPU right?
You would have to be pretty dumb (no offence to you or anyone just a metaphor) to buy a high end cpu especially 3dvchache (as it is ass in productivity) for anything other than a high end gpu so 3080-90, 4070-80-90, 6800-6900 or 7900xt/x+
Yes if your budget won't let you get a 7800X3D paired with at least a 7900XT or 4070ti, then you should drop down in CPU to afford a better GPU. But if you are building with a 7800X3D and saving money on the Ram helps you go to say a 7900XTX then I'd do that (:
Or even better 7600x
Depends. If you have upgradability in mind, getting the i5 is not a good idea because you're gonna have to change the motherboard to get newer cpus. You're also getting bottlenecked if you ever want to upgrade your gpu!
getting a kit with a higher bandwidth is also important for your operating system, not just games….. So getting cl40 5200mhz is just a hard no for me lol.
I got the same 6000cl 30 kit for 100 flat at micro center yesterday ;)
If speed isn't an issue, wouldn't it make sense to just get the lowest possible latency?
Now after the 1.3v vsoc limitation a lot of people are now wondering “will my ram even boot?” rather than “how fast should it be?”
i would love to have the same video for the 7600x and 7700
Check out our 7600 build guide!
i have b650m elite Can I put 6000mhz cl30 on b650m elite aorus board?
Know of anyone who has done a deeper dive into UV the 7800x3d vs just PBO and CO?
What cpu should I pair with the rx 600. Looking for both intel and amd suggestions. Budget for pc is $1200-1350
You mean rx-6000? Be specific which model
@@clinged2711 meant to say the rx 6800
6950XT enought with this CPU?
Gskill flare X5 6000 CL36 32gb (2x16gb) a good choice?
CL 30 6000mhz 2x16 ✅
Well this recommedation aged pretty quickly. Since like mid summer the price diffrence between cheap 32GB DDR5 5200 and 6000cl30 is around 20$. Doesnt make any sense to go any lower now.
What game îs that the shooter one looked nice
I was wondering if bigger ram sticks could give an issue as well? I was considering 96GB that could be needed in some of my cases but not sure if compatibility-wise with the 7800x3D would be good, if some problems could appear with any other CPU or motherboards, as now I could take "slower" ram but more of it while not having much downside regarding ram speed for the 7800x3D.
TL;DR : Should I consider 96GB instead of 64GB for the 7800x3D w/ Asus 650E-I (Mini ITX) board, as ram speed shouldn't matter in this case and just give me more ram without visible downsides?
Of you need 90 g the you make videos or so one ill suggest get the other one form amd bit more but that for program as for this one only has 8 core and is good for games ❤
Did you know that it exist 7200+ Mhz expo ram now, i have 7200 cl34 expo ram and i'm pretty interrested in comparison with 7200 or more ram kits
What about 6400 Cl 30?… the timings are tight tight… But I have nothing to go against so I dunno if it made any change. I’d have to get a 34 or so and see if there is something.
I would like to see a test on a more RAM + CPU intensive games... Minecraft? Escape From Tarkov? Sims City 4?
what about DDR5 4800Mhz RAM?
Is the thermal paste from a vetroo 5 cooler good enough or should I buy better paste?
Should be fine. But a tube of Arctic MX-4 with a nice little spreader spoon thing only costs $8 (that's what I use).
@PC Builder thanks I appreciate it. Any thoughts on the odyssey g55a 32 inch curved. Casual gamer, mostly play mmos such as bdo. I also got a 5600x paired with 6950xt is that an okay combo or should I upgrade the cpu.
It seems like 32gb DDR5 is the norm for 7000 series chips, would you still recommend 16gb for someone looking for a cheaper PC?
I would go 32gb its not that much more and prolongs the life of your pc setup. Get a 10 year psu and noctua nh-d15
If you can find a good 2X8 GB kit yes. Its a place to save money to invest in a better GPU
@@gamershow5944 nah that noctua nh-d15 is overpriced, better get AK620, Frost Commander 140, Fuma 2 Rev. B, Frost Commander gets the best thermals but is loud but it is waaay cheaper than nh-d15
Same thing was said on the 5800x3d. Went from 3200c16 2x8 16gb oloy to gskill 3200c14 4x8 32gb. Every game I play got a 10-15% uplift in .1 and 1% lows with 8% boost to average fps.
Now the gskills tuned to 3733c14-14-14-14-28 on 4x8 using a gigabyte x570. Raised the performance overall on the 5800x3d another 6%. And .1&1% lows within 15% of average fps now. Super stable.
I don't get this clearly. do you have any youtube video to explain this.
This also made the ram to run in dual rank mode, which gives a bit of a performance boost, that said, I don't agree with putting cheap ram on a top end CPU, like someone else said, there are games which are less dependant on vcache.
I have 6400MHz, which is not stable... But only costs 3 bucks more than the 6000MHz Kit, so I got 6400MHz... I set custom Timings for my RAM in 6000MHz and it's completely stable now :D
Hey Jason, does expo or xmp cause a performance difference? or do they do thie same?
You can use either. See our new 7800X3D build guide on the channel for more
Will a 240mm AIO still cool this CPU? Or is it time to upgrade the AIO?
See the full 7800X3D build guide linked!
I'm planning to build a pc with a 3080 TI,what do you think would be the perfect cpu pair for it?
It really depends on your usage and budget. Check out our CPU Market Update and Best CPU/GPU Combos videos for more!
I ended up getting this ram for my 7800x3d how much more different is the CL 40 Ram than the one posted ? Did i make a mistake and buy the wrong ram??TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta Alpha RGB DDR5 Ram 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 6000MHz (PC5-48000) CL38 Desktop Memory Module Ram (White) AMD Optimized Memory - FF8D532G6000HC38ADC01
Your an absolute life saver man! Building my first PC and all your videos have been super helpful
Love to hear it! And good luck with the build, glad we could help you out :D
So what’s the point of getting 16 or 32 ram? Or even a faster vs slowe ram? Asking cause idk how it works.
Check out our Best RAM for Gaming 2023 video! All you need is there (:
my current build is r5 5600, A320m-k, 3060 12gb, 8x2 3200 ram and 1tb nvme gen3.. can i upgrade something to get performance or stick with this build? what monitor best for this build (mid range budget
Best bet is to upgrade the GPU. At current your build is a 1080p high FPS or 1440p 144hz monitor, depending on the games you play. See our best gaming monitor video for more.
@PC Builder the best gpu for my build?not too overkill..and does mobo upgrade will not get any more performance?
@@zararoblox815 Price/performance is pointing at 6700XT or 6800XT if you can swing it. He has lots of info on his channel, even breaks down $ per FPS
But can it run Stellaris with a 5k galaxy size end game....
Did you test timings differences?
Check out the full video! Its linked (:
If you don't tune the 2nd & 3rd sub timings, you won't notice much difference...
As a star citizen enjoyer, you got me messed up if you think im not getting at least 2x 16 gig as a starter
Classic Jason W 🤣. How high of a GPU would you go on a 7600, Jason?
Thanks! Honestly you could go to a 4090, but at that point I'm going straight up to a 7800X3D if I have more money.
Can I put 4 8gb or is that not recommended?
More latency, if you do 4 sticks 2 sticks of 16gb should be good enough.
Thanks a million. I also heard that increasing the ram speed makes the cpu hotter and more difficult to cool. So 5200mhz it is then.
Go for 6000 price is the same at list over here 😅
Test it in tarkov 6000 cl 24 doubled my fps
If you go with 6000 you can get 128 Gigs of ram if you go with anything higher than the 6800 you are capped at 24 Gig Modules putting you at max 96 Gigs.
Just a factor to consider.
can you tell me which is the best motherboard for ryzen 7 7800x3d? Which one do you have to reach the stable 6400mhz of ram? I know it depends on the memory controller of the cpu, but I don't know which motherboard to get to have the least possible latency.

Most expensive ones are the best 😢
Honestly it depends one where you are from over here we have only asus and gigabytes rest are non existence 😂
Only timings matter my friends
Test Spiderman Remastered with RT on
@jason, If I buy DDR5 with intel XMP support will it work for AM5? And can I use the XMP profile to overclock it?
Yes. See the full video guide to 7800X3D building for more
@@PCBuilderChannel Thank you, sir! I have another question, did you ever try to run an Am4/AM5 CPU without a cooler? Will it burn right off the bat? My use case is that I want to test the CPU and RAM that they are functioning without doing anything crazy like running Cinebench or a game, just to confirm they are functioning. Please let me know 🤗
Is this cpu solid for vr? Also, what gpu would be best paired with it?
Radeon vii
@@lumia_dayZ thanks! Are you saying a Radeon 7000 series?
@@PeanutNPalz no no I mean radeon VII
The thing is that RAM faster than 6000MT/s could actually be bad for chiplet design CPUs. Since the infinity fabric and the memory speed matching would be faster than having way faster memory. 6000 lets both the InfFabric and Memory even out at 3000. Anything faster and the InfFabric may not have enough to keep up, literally. It will start to go down! So, 6000 is 100% the fastest.
The most you’ll be saving on DDR5 RAM like this is probably $20-30 doesnt help much towards funding your overpriced GPU. I’m aiming for DDR5 6000 CL 30 with 10ns CAS latency. That’ll set you back like $90-118.
Atleast all of you have a pc i wish
I'm really confused, my the processor says it can handle a max of 5200 mts online, so why do people pair 6000 hz ram kits ?
That's the base clock. All ram kits are designed to be automatically overclocked in your build. See our Best RAM for Gaming 2023 video to learn all about this. Its confusing I know
The faster ram is only good for iGPU.. my third pc was i7 2600K, this cpu has HD 3000 iGPU. This was an office grade pc with the slowest RAM you can get. So i bought 2133MHz 32GB for 90€, realising that the motherboard only support up to 1866MHz so the RAM was set to highest that mobo can support. But The actuall FPS boost in-game was huge, jumping from 15-25fps to 27-40fps, almost double, just only with faster ram..
the new 890m radeon iGPU will require the most fastest DDR5 ram for the best experience. But it kinda sucks because that almost 100mb of 3d cache is really helping a lot. If they make an APU with 890m and 100 3D cache, im selling my two main pc's and i go straight withou any dedicated gpus...
You almost answered all of my questions in this one short what about 2x32gb ram? I’m swapping platform now from intel
Glad to help! If you need that amount of Ram that's fine. See our full 7800X3D build guide video for more
What about going above 6000 MHz ram? Like a lot above. I know it's not recommended, but has anyone tried it?
Wait so if it matters on non-X chips, how much RAM speed should I be getting? I'm eyeing on the 7700.
Check out our 7600 build guide video! Same recommendations there as 7700
Update: just go the fastest you can afford now, it's so much cheaper 7months on from this video
Over 6000 is stupid overprice.
Hey, I accidentally purchased the Corsair Dominator Platinum 2x16 6000Mhz C30 kit which is XMP not EXPO despite buying a 7800X3D. Do you think I should return them for the EXPO kit that is a little more expensive and will work at the rated speeds straight out of the box? Thanks.
Edit: I would like to add that it's paired with a 4090.
Im not jason, but yes, I would get the amd expo optimized ones.
XMP is 100% fine and won’t have any problem or noticeable performance difference but the EXPO kits are supposedly slightly better optimised for what it’s worth? Maybe you would get a bit better stability if OCing the RAM significantly?
I got xmp 6400mhz and my system crashed with blue screen and drop down to 6000mhz run games the game shut down as well. What's the highest and stable ram speed for 7800x3d?
6000 for all 7000 series cpu
I use this ram an cpu and my pc will crash after 5/6 hrs of gaming and i do have xmp turned on for 6000, what could be causing the issue?
Update bios meb fix it
people at microcenter said using a non amd expo on my 7800x3d could lead to instability issues if I enable the OC like whatever you call it, the expo mode, ohcp or dhop, you know what I'm trying to say.
They specifically didn't recommended it. Because originally I was going to get the Tforce delta 6000 cl30 in white but they only had it for xmp and said it wouldn't work well.
Whoever you talked to didn't know what they were talking about, they just read some BS marketing from AMD. But if you feel more comfortable, the EXPO timing kits aren't that much more. The G. Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB kits run about $20 more and have the EXPO timings.
@@PCBuilderChannel Yeah I wasn't sure. They said that Expo RAM was "Specifically tuned" or designed for AMD. I tried to order some EXPO gskill on Amazon but the white RAM in 6000 cl30 was backordered. (it was a mess on Amazon).
I tried asking a Tforce rep on Amazon (I'm not sure if its an actual Tforce vendor or whomever it is). They said it depends on my MOBO. Its an MSI B650 Edge. But I never got a response. So I honestly wasn't too sure. I do notice that a lot of Manufacturers be it Corsair, Tforce, Gskill do have EXPO variants. I think Tforce expo's are called (alpha) or I notice a little (a) on their kits.
I assumed all to be true.
I was doing a White Build around a Phanteks G500A and just wanted some white RAM. I ended up getting the only white RAM they had at Microcenter which was some gskill 6400 cl32. Its all they had. I drove all the way back to MicroCen which is about an hour away, also to get my discount on my 7800x3d as I got it for 350 and it dropped to 340 which they refunded.
Still the gskill white 6400 was about 30 dollars more than the Tforce Delta white 6000 cl30 that i had originally wanted.
I appreciate the feedback.
It's important to look at the compatibility list in the motherboard manual before buying to avoid this kind of issues.
I would recommend buying amd expo ram for the pc instead of intel xmp ram because that was the whole reason my pc didn't boot. because am5 is still new and unstable the pc didn't want to boot with that ram in place. and the funny thing is, while posting the led light from vga stayed on. so it said that the graphics card was broken so I was very confused. Turns out I didn't have the correct ram...
6400mhz 2x16?
I think 6000 CL30 is the sweet spot
I'm currently in the market for a new pc build and really leaning towards this cpu. I'll be upgrading from an i5 8600k build. Should i go for it wait for ryzen 8000 series?
Id go for it for sure. Otherwise you're in for a longish wait. See our latest CPU Market Update video, we actually go over this in depth there
@@PCBuilderChannel nice, thanks! Looks like I'll be hitting up the MicroCenter tomorrow
6400 cl32 is a good spot, or cl30 if you can get it with rgb of course. The price range on them is also fine too. I'm doing my build with this 7800x3d, and I'm using a gigabyte x670 elite. I hope my speeds on my ram come out good
How did this pairing work? Thinking of doing the same
@@ez123abcz 6400mhz is easy to achieve. Mine has been stable since I did the build. You could wait for next gen cpu and motherboards. It could be even faster ram if you really want it
If you get a 7700X instead, make sure to get ddr5 6000 CL30 or ddr5 6400 CL32. And preferably tune the timings manually. You can get upwards of 10% extra framerate by just having good latency RAM. 5200 CL40 is extremely slow.
There was a test with ddr4 3200 vs ddr5 7800 and it was a 10fps difference lol just get whatever
Depends on the game. Also faster ram makes things like opening apps or browsing faster
I'm running CL30 32GB 6000 with the 7800X3D and a B650 Tomahawk Wifi from MSI
Thanks, please if you know what is the best motherboard for 7800x3d that have PCIE 5.0 and M.2 5.0 .. but not too expensive.. approximately 300$~ little more or less better better .. and have no issues or bad reviews
does it work from factory settings pr did you need to oc the 7800x3d? i want to buy it but it says 5200 max
@@ZzzZzz-gk4boI would go with the gigabyte x670 aorus elite ax