@polar6826 competitive?😂 ryzen 7 7800x3d is faster than 14900k with less power usage, and its way cheaper! It's literally no competition at all in gaming only
@@AlanCulerwhile the i3 12100f is a great option for budget gamers, you can also go the AM4 route and get a 5600, which you still gives you a nice upgrade path to a 5800X3D, 12100f is still a good option though
One of the reasons that made me switch from Intel to AMD in 2019 was the socket's longevity. It's crazy how I can still use my 2019 mobo to buy modern CPU's
This is the reason folks like Apple computers, too. They get lots of software and other support for a long time. Normie pc fans don’t get Apple love. Even this RUclipsr himself uses his Mac laptop daily. There really isn’t a better laptop or mini pc (Mac mini) for thermals, noise, energy consumption, ecosystem, and performance.
nahh. It's just for budget since most rich people and companies will choose intel over AMD because intel have better compatibility with all software compared to AMD Maybe this also the reason intel and Nvidia is slightly more expensive, because they really do test and pay the software to be compatible and optimize with their products Unlike AMD who doesn't care about compatibility and optimization. That's why they're cheap
@@TheTez1990 yea true, shouldn't only for gaming. But for budget gamers since most Rich gamers that spend ton of dollars to game and their PC will choose Nvidia Over AMD Since there's no GPU that can surpass 4090 yet. Even AMD doesn't have a GPU that are the same performance as 4090 Edit : And not they almost releasing 4090TI lmao 🤣
@azizsetyawan3038 yeah but a gpu half the price gets damn close to the second in command for about half the price... the options are pretty obvious when you think about it...
@@randomanun4278 wtf half price. There's no such a things expect you buying a used GPU Even RX6700 only 10-15% cheaper than RTX 4060TI nowadays. But 4060ti have 5-10% better performance overall Not even half the price. Definitely i choose Nvidia because it's only have 10% price difference while give you 5-10% more performance And optimize for every single software including editing, rendering, 3D designing, animating, ect
Damn Tustin Microcenter had it sold out, so I went with the 13700k bundle cuz I still want some productivity work. I was only in LA for like a few days so yeah.
@@DoppEff From other stuff in their store. they sell bundles at a loss in order to try and get you to buy other stuff in their stores. just like costco
Right, when I build my pc I'm not changing anything on it for at least 7 years unless something breaks. If these people are worried about sockets changing they're not building good enough pc's to begin with.
@@Dodger_Dawg_ I have B650E with R7 7800X3D which is the best gaming CPU on a platform which will most likely support at least two more full CPU generations. Please, explain to me how is my PC "not good enough"
Well in your case. This person would say if you get that socket in 6 years all you will need is a new gpu, cpu, and some more ram. Which he is somewhat right. This depends on the MoBo you get. If you got some cheap mobo with just modern specs. You might be upset to see that it doesn't work as well as a cheap MoBo would be with that same cpu. So you losing performance while pretty much spending more money then you would if you just kept the cpu and gpu that was more compatiable to begin with. There is a reason these parts come out in the same years time frames. They get lazy on software updates all the time or issues happen. So what I am saying is. Get a high end Mobo if you plan on buying for a cpu socket set. I never plan on buying a pc this way and I don't think any would should either. You do not save money doing this. @@lrexoticgaming5636
it's not about that, upgrading every 4 to 5 years is nice to maintain the performance of your PC. instead of changing both the CPU and motherboard, you'll only need to change the CPU. Motherboards aren't worth upgrading that much imo
If u buy a pc today, u dont need to upgrade it for at least 4 years, that means u'll need a new motherboard then. I had a i5-7600k till this december and recently upgraded it to a i9-14900k (changed whole pc). No need to upgrade or change for 8-10 years.
@@suryanarayandasmohapatra5840 I'd presume high for now but as titles demand more cpu/gpu in the future the quality will decline. He's got a valid point which the user must take into account. I'm making the switch to AMD Ryzen 9 7950x with a AMD RX7900 gre. It's usually more than I would spend but I want to experience high/ultra graphics on my car games/Sims and start using VR and streaming this year
Just switched a week ago from i5 7600k, 1070ti to Ryzen 7 7700x and 7800xt with an NZXT B650e motherboard, 32gb 6000mt DDR5 and the difference is absolutely fucking mind blowing in every single tiny way.
I still use a 3770K + 1050 Ti in my secondary system and it still runs great for lighter/older games. It also has nvenc which is very helpful for rendering videos.
Amd just has a lot more to offer whether that's cpus or gpus. I just bought a ryzen 7 2700x for 50 usd, the equivalent of that would be an i7 9700k which on eBay, is going for almost 200 dollars
@@ryeser4864 5 generations behind lol, for a new build that's pretty shit. won't handle anything in 2k or even modern AAA past 60 frames in 1080p medium
@yungerrr still a great deal tho depending on the games he plays, I rocked a r5 2600x and 1660 super for years and it ran everything I threw at it, even if it's medium-high settings. Still enjoyable
If you're going high end and not planning to regularly upgrade it doesn't matter. Either way if you like me only upgrade every 4 or 5 years you'll most likely need a new motherboard by then either way.
Absolutely agree. Also there is a lot of cases when Intel build can be actually way cheaper. What is also cool and saves money - latest Intel CPUs support both DDR4 and DDR5, so if you already had great DDR4 ram I don't see much reasons to go for DDR5
Here is the facts, alot of people have jumped on the amd bandwagon and it's kinda annoying. So computers is a big hobby of mine. So to the average user on this platform so you don't feel like you made a bad choice or anything let me help you. Intel and AMD are both great, early days of ryzen I wasn't a fan of much absolutely love ryzen now. The 5600x is hands down my favorite CPU from am4. Before you go and buy your parts or prebuilt you can go either way. You shouldn't need to upgrade your PC for years to come so the whole upgrade path is stupid. My buddy finally upgraded after 8 years and his PC was still working great. So go with Intel or amd and your making a good choice either way
yes its really annoying, I'm looking at used pc parts and found a build with a 5800x thats pretty reasonably priced (nordic country so everything is expensive). If I wanted to swap a 7800x3d or something in after it tanks in price in a couple years I can't do that, getting a 5800x3d is a very small upgrade but one I can't afford right now, and getting on am5 now isn't really viable since mobo and ram prices would eat too much of the budget. And even then by the time I wanted an upgrade am5 would be already old gen and I'd have to think about another cpu upgrade the same way. Kind of infuriating, figured I'll just stop caring about future compatability completely, I made it the past 7 years with a ddr3 mobo, it'll be fine
@@neonoir__ 5800x3d will be good for a long time, by the time that cpu struggles with gaming, am6 will be out or maybe am7. i would skip am5 for you as it your 5800x3d will cruch it for a good long while.
This is true for modern computers. Not true back in 2000-2017. Im talking about Pre-Ryzen and when SLI was a thing. I feel like computer building was alot more complicated back then. Now... majority of new parts... if you are just using it in standard 1080p... can last you for YEARS.
@@LuPy532 i just upgraded to a 5600x. I have no money for gaming but it works like a charm. Also i feel sorry for you, since you have a CPU with a big manufacturing defect.
I was using intel for a very long time and decided to switch to AMD this year. I can’t say it has been a smooth ride especially with the burning X3D issues and currently I have crash issue in games because of PBO I assume.
Don't forget gaming as the 14900K/KS crush any gaming benchmark even with admittedly lower FPS than the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The 14900K/KS can do everything with productivity and content creation workloads with ease for a 10th the price of a Threadripper Pro 7000 (Legendary and worth the premium, but out of most peoples price range). The 7800X3D cannot match either in performance without upgrading to the 7950X3D and properly tuning it in Process Lasso. Intel is as plug and play as it gets. Power efficiency doesn't matter if your platform lacks stability and quality drivers, which AMD is still struggling with compared to Intel, and especially NVIDIA.
@@Fryem42014900k is obviously better, but it’s marginal and comes at the cost of a lot of extra heat and power draw. I’m building a high end setup and going for a 14700k. It’s essentially the 14900k without the OC
@@Fryem42014900KS is underrated, by FAR IMO the best Intel CPU ever made, 14900K is also 6 GHZ, 5.7 GHZ all core and very excellent, undervolt the hell out of both the 14900K and the 14900KS. Use a Direct to Die solution and you MUST delid the KS, the K you can skip that. Use an EKG Deta TEC 2 custom loop water cooling Full Nickel solution, for stable all core 6 GHZ on the 14900KS. It gets better, 7 GHZ two performance cores, 6.90 GHZ all core is easy, 14900KS does it idling. BEAST.
Being a DDR3 motherboard user, I can confirm I love my AMD A8 and 4gb DDR3 ram! Amd's the catch for me. Edit: 69 likes!? Leave it guys it's the best number! Edit -2 : I lost my 69 likes 😭😞
Thats also a point but you wont get npu faster technology and Microsoft is working at using it also lot of developers like Adobe. Btw Microsoft is also Office and ms word or Excel or other will be cooperating in new tools which they told they will be Amazing revolutionary upgrade. So you cant be sure its good for you
@@PterodactylFN I searched 5500x3d and the first thing that popped up was “5500x3d rumors: what we know so far” If you can’t buy it and it hasn’t been announced then it’s a rumor
I bought my intel last year, not planning on major upgrades for a long time but the writing was always on the wall for the way NVIDIA and Intel have been going.
I still dont think if i buy now that i will upgrade untill 2026 or 7. Realistically if you buy a new cpu rn you would expect it to last minimum 5 years
Big question is, whether the motherboard will hold up?? With the amount of options and cheap motherboards, it’s feasible to replace the motherboard +cpu than upgrading just the processor.
Dont buy a cheap MoBo, and you don't have to switch it. i have upgraded my R5 2600 to a 5800X3D on my old B450 Mainboard. And where do you get cheap mainboards?
this does remind me that my next upgrade is the cpu. currently sporting a ryzen 5 3600, but if i can find something better that is am4, isnt a minute boost and doesn't break the bank then ill consider getting it.
5600x. Just ditch my old CPU and upgraded to 5600x. Just gotta be sure your mobo bios is updated to min. version which support the processor that you are planning to buy
Amd is doing great just would love to see a little drop in price. With how some motherboard are still so expensive even some of the cheaper ones. A motherboard and cpu is like $400 or higher.
Depends on your budget. I would reccomend an AMD card if you use or could potentially use Linux for coding, it is a lot better than the nvidia expierence
Yeah I agree with intel and amd though do research on intel cards, only watch new vids as the driver updates are crazy but they have av1 I think encoding and they are budget and have a lot of vram especially the a770 but do research don’t just listen to 1 person
The battle between Intel and AMD for CPU supremacy continues to be fierce in 2024 with both brands offering strong contenders Here's a breakdown to help you decide: Current Landscape *Performance: Intel's 14th Gen Raptor Lake CPUs currently hold the lead in single threaded performance making them ideal for gamers. AMD's Ryzen 7000 series shines in multi-threaded applications, better suited for content creators and professionals. AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D with 3D V-Cache boasts the best gaming performance overall. * **Price:** Historically, AMD offered better value. While the price gap has narrowed, Intel might still hold a slight edge in some mid-range options. * **Platform:** AMD's AM4 platform boasts excellent upgrade compatibility across generations. Intel's LGA 1700 socket might require a motherboard change for future upgrades. **Who Should Choose Which?** * **Gamers:** For pure gaming, the choice depends. If high frame rates are your priority, consider the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. For a good balance between gaming and price, Intel's Raptor Lake CPUs are strong contenders. * **Content Creators:** AMD's Ryzen 7000 series with its strong multi-core performance excels here. * **General Use:** Both brands offer capable CPUs for everyday tasks. Consider factors like price, upgrade path, and specific software compatibility. **Future Outlook** * Both Intel and AMD are expected to release new CPU lines in the latter half of 2024. * Intel might switch sockets and drop DDR4 support with their Arrow Lake processors. * AMD's Zen 5 architecture promises significant performance improvements, especially for those on the older AM4 platform. **Recommendation** Research specific CPU models and benchmarks for your needs. Look at review sites like Tom's Hardware [CPU Benchmarks and Hierarchy 2024: CPU Rankings] to compare performance across different tasks.
"Future proofing" is cool and all. But there is absolutely no reason to upgrade every generation of CPU or GPU. Yes, I know there are things like DLSS 2-3 or AM4 to AM5 But it's just a waste of money. People out here are still rocking 10 series NVIDIA cards before AMD got good. But even then, if you go for a 30 series or 6000 series GPU, it just depends on what games/programs you'll be running. As for CPU, Anything with 8 or more cores will Be just fine till games industry learns how to utilize more CPU cores for games, yet there is still people using 13900K for gaming and it's just a big waste of money. Guarantee 5800x paired with 6700XT will last for 5+ years from now. Things are so different now. Especially if FSR or RSR get better
Yup, I completely disagree with everything he is spitting, while yes the am5 support is nice, no one buying a new cpu rn unless you are a massive enthusiast is going to upgrade in the next year. A 13600k massively outperforms a 7800x, and I wouldn't be surprised if the 8000 series still struggles to compete with the 13th gen. This is all a marketing stunt. If I buy an am5 cpu I won't be upgrading for 3 years at least, which at that point neither will be supported, so why go with the worse choice?
Thank you for your good work! Your channel is great for informing us busy ones... Question: Is motherboard support for future AMD CPUs included with new speeds for RAMs that are included in new CPUs? Could you look into that or give us some insights on that?
Same logic applies here. You can upgrade from a Ryzen 5 7600 to a Ryzen 7 8800x3D (or even 9800x3D). That blows the 14900K out of the water (even the current 7800x3D does)
Generally speaking, I've never bothered to upgrade a CPU on the same socket motherboard until I went AMD, whether it was because I went with an I5, or a Ryzen 5. The only time I ever actually had to upgrade a CPU in the same motherboard, was with AMD. First gen Ryzen stopped being supported by Windows 11 after a certain update, so I had to replace it with a newer generation AM4 to be able to update my Windows 11 anymore which also required me flashing the bios to be able to use the newer CPU as the older bios didn't support the newer CPU. By the time you notice your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU, it's usually about time to upgrade to a newer socket/board/ram anyways.
And whats your benefit from switching i5 to i9? 10% more FPS? It makes no sense! It wll be the same architecture CPU. But you can't switch to 15 gen Intel, that's what you don't get.
I personally think future proofing should only be a thing people consider if they are the latest and greatest types that like frequent updates. I built my mid range pc in 2021, and I still dont think I need an upgrade because it still works amazingly. The performance i would gain is minimal unless I jump up to the next tier up of cpus which I think is overkill.
I am now on Team Red and the 7800X3D. I WON’T return to Intel for a VERY long time. My Core i9 14900K overvolted itself to death on finals. AMD it is for me. Intel has lost consumer confidence and needs a comeback. I was an Intel fanboy for two decades, it feels good to drop brand loyalty. Having said this I am fast becoming an AMD fanboy rapidly these days.
what about gpus tho? (i know i know the rx 5700 xt is the best for budget builds) i think the arc is slowly getting better too. what do you think of intel ark gpus?
That is the stupidest advice ever, Who ever builds PC to only last 2 years is just waisting money. Build a PC that will last you 4-8 years like mine. I work in IT, in my life I had 3 personal build PC because the first 2 pc lasted me close to 16 years in total. This year I build my 3 one and will not be surprised it will last another 6+ years.
Only tech channels like this think everyone is upgrading every single time a new socket launches. What happens in reality, is that every release there is a portion of the population that has a 5+ year old PC that's due for an upgrade finally.
@@DRTIK0L Man you need to look in to a couple things first. First look at the type of games you play, are they 2D, 3D, FPS, Open World or Very intence in visual graphics. Then you need to check your monitor what kind of monitor you use, the size doesn;t really matter what matters is if it is 1080, 1440 or 4k. Then you need to decide how long you want your PC to last. If you are building a PC that you are planning to upgrade in like 2 years then fine buy cheap but if you want to have a pc that will last you min. of 4 years with no need to upgrade. Then you must save up or borrow more money. Nvidia no matter how much we all hate them is still the one producing the best GPU out there and in most games Nvidia GPU will run better and will get better fps even if it is a lower eng graphics card. Further more if you buy a really high end CPU like a i7 - 12,13 gen or a i9 - 12, 13 or 14 gen then you know that thing will last you 5 years easily, in my country in most stores the CPU gets 5-6 year warranty. So you can imagine how secure they are (granted remember to change the thermalpaste every 6-12 months) but still. Just always remember the more you spend now the more you will save later. Good luck
@@DRTIK0L Pretty much any of the AM4 stuff is fine, I recommend anyone avoids first gen AM5 after the whole CPU's burning in the socket though. Yes I know they've had bios updates to address it, I still wouldn't want to buy a generation of CPU that had it happen at all given thats EXTREMELY abnormal in the CPU world. It really scares me to the point that I think it has some rushed product stuff going on behind it. I've never heard of that happening before.
That’s great to hear that AMD seems to care about longevity with their CPU and motherboard compatibility. What’s really keeping me from switching from Intel to AMD is Intel’s screen capture software “Gforce Experience”. Is there an AMD equivalent?
I'm going to be making the switch from my old 8700k/1080 Ti and I'm wanting to know if the 7800x3d/7900xtx will be good for my gaming and Photo/video editing as well. I cant seem to find to much on it but I always watch you on TikTok and love the content and info
I just upgraded from an Intel Core i7-8700 to an Intel Core i9-12900KF and the 8700 has been able to play every modern AAA game at 1080p with fps above 100. With that being said your average gamer doesn’t have to upgrade every year if they buy any cpu above an i7.
what if im building a mid range pc for ~800$? I was planning on getting the i5 12400f, and there is a very obvious upgrade path from that, up to something like a i9 14900K. But there is no AMD alternative to an i5 12400f that uses the AM5 socket. So is it worth for me to spend an extra 80$ on a cpu, just so its cheaper for me to upgrade in 5 years time? I feel like intel is still a good option, especially if youre building a budget to midrange pc.
I have loved Ryzen since I started in PCs (acknowledging its flaws such as the high price of the 5000 series, taking advantage of the fact that they were gaining market share against Intel, and the lack of performance of the 7000 series compared to Intel 13th and 14th generation) This year I was thinking of making a build with a 7900x and update in about 4-7 years, when they have already moved to am6 and the top of the range of this socket are cheap, but I recently found a 13700k for 200 and I did not hesitate to buy it . The b760 motherboard was cheaper than the one I was looking for for the 7900x, being from the same range and product line (Asus TUF). The set was 230 cheaper and I am very happy, now I am just waiting for the parts to assemble and test with my Gigabyte 2060, which I plan to upgrade in a few weeks (or months) to a 4070 super, depending on how the prices are.
Amd and intel are both great. Never tried amd, probably will never as I'm used to intel, but it's cool to see the support they have for older gen sockets.
I have i5-13600K which is a beast of a CPU, along with RX 7800 XT that will last me like 5 years. There's no need to upgrade your CPU every year or two years if you just play games on it and are not some tech youtuber or video editor that needs the newest hardware every year.
Hi Zack! I'm going to be building a around 600$ pc rn. I'm going to use am4 with a ryzen 5 3600. Should i wait until march 2024 to get enough money for am5?
I dont get the idea of “upgrade path” when i dont know a single person that upgrades cpus less than 5 years. Unless your using really cpu heavy workloads, theres no reason to upgrade every gen.
Should I build a gaming/multimedia PC with the Intel i9 15900k and a Nvidia RTX 4080 Super/5080 or the Ryzen 9 9950X and a 4080 Super/5080? What are some good brands for motherboards for both Intel and AMD CPUs? I have heard ASUS and Gigabyte are not great in terms of quality. Can I use G.Skills 7200mt RGB 32gb (16x2) XMP 3.0 compatible ram with an AMD CPU and AM5 motherboard?
It honestly doesn't matter. With how fast tec goes you're going to have to replace everything every 4-5 years. So don't built to upgrade because it doesn't matter. Just build for your current needs.
Me, an engineer. Over here looking at the intel wattage/voltage issue in the chips and the AMD secure boot leaks while playing w my shiny brand new RISC V chips u can get for 1/13th the cost.
This dude Stan’s amd graphics cards so I’m a million % sure he’s not reliable in any way, shape, or form to answer this question without an outrageously obvious biased answer
totally understand the arguments, but hear me out: many cpus last at least 6 years of work and good ones last at least 6 years of good performance, so going with some good cpu today (by my conception) is totally fine. just built one with a 13600k and by my gut i feel it'll be strong for the next sockets launch. also, upgrading a 12th gen to a 14th gen imo is kind of a waste, at least where i live in where cutting edge electronics are way more expensive that they should be, so getting rid of a 3y cpu sounds a bit bad i would love to discuss this with more people!
Hi, would like to know which one would u recommend. I5 13400f or ryzen 5 7600x? Mainly for gaming casual (SC2, cyberpunk,some old games)( 90% ), editing. The price difference here around 20$ ( amd more expensive). Or i3 13th should do the job done?
A 7700x (the cheapest one I could find) is almost the same price as a 14600k and a 7600x is more expensive than that 💀 (how???) A 7500f is around the same price as 5700g... Wtf is a 7500x? Never seen it
It also depends on your preference, I prefer intel because I have had a easy and nice time using them and the work great and some people the some but with amd. Just hate it when people get heated because of them
Upgrading CPU's in the same socket as a reason to go AMD is just straight bad reasoning. Assuming a 5 year upgrade cycle you will most likely be buying a new MB anyways. But even if you bought a first gen AM4 for instance waited 5 years and then bought another CPU you are still giving up pref on a part of the computer that is one of the less expensive ones. If you upgrade every 2-3 years you are either well off and don't care and should just buy a current chipset anyways or you did not buy enough CPU when putting together the system if it needs a upgrade so soon. The AMD vs Intel question comes down to what you are doing with the computer and the budget. X3D is very attractive to Gamers, when it works that is.
amd is probably the best cpu/gpu company for budget gamers
not just budget their top tier cpus are very very competitive with intel
True
i3 12th and 13 gen would like to know your location
@polar6826 competitive?😂 ryzen 7 7800x3d is faster than 14900k with less power usage, and its way cheaper! It's literally no competition at all in gaming only
@@AlanCulerwhile the i3 12100f is a great option for budget gamers, you can also go the AM4 route and get a 5600, which you still gives you a nice upgrade path to a 5800X3D, 12100f is still a good option though
One of the reasons that made me switch from Intel to AMD in 2019 was the socket's longevity. It's crazy how I can still use my 2019 mobo to buy modern CPU's
2019, that would put you at a B450 or X470?
@@drew2626 I'm rocking a 3900x on a x570
This is the reason folks like Apple computers, too. They get lots of software and other support for a long time.
Normie pc fans don’t get Apple love. Even this RUclipsr himself uses his Mac laptop daily. There really isn’t a better laptop or mini pc (Mac mini) for thermals, noise, energy consumption, ecosystem, and performance.
@@DengueBurgerapple also thinks their 8gb of mac ram is equivalent to 16gb of pc ram
Fr i have a r5 2600 and going to upgrade to a r5 5600x with out having to switch mobo unlike my friend who has Intel and has to upgrade his😢
AMD has been making big moves that gamers are here for
nahh. It's just for budget since most rich people and companies will choose intel over AMD because intel have better compatibility with all software compared to AMD
Maybe this also the reason intel and Nvidia is slightly more expensive, because they really do test and pay the software to be compatible and optimize with their products
Unlike AMD who doesn't care about compatibility and optimization. That's why they're cheap
@@azizsetyawan3038this comment was so damn stupid
@@TheTez1990 yea true, shouldn't only for gaming. But for budget gamers since most Rich gamers that spend ton of dollars to game and their PC will choose Nvidia Over AMD
Since there's no GPU that can surpass 4090 yet. Even AMD doesn't have a GPU that are the same performance as 4090
Edit :
And not they almost releasing 4090TI lmao 🤣
@azizsetyawan3038 yeah but a gpu half the price gets damn close to the second in command for about half the price... the options are pretty obvious when you think about it...
@@randomanun4278
wtf half price. There's no such a things expect you buying a used GPU
Even RX6700 only 10-15% cheaper than RTX 4060TI nowadays. But 4060ti have 5-10% better performance overall
Not even half the price. Definitely i choose Nvidia because it's only have 10% price difference while give you 5-10% more performance
And optimize for every single software including editing, rendering, 3D designing, animating, ect
Microcenter had a crazy nice deal on a 7800x3d motherboard and 32g of 6k ddr5 ram for like $499. Best Christmas present ever
That's a steal
Damn Tustin Microcenter had it sold out, so I went with the 13700k bundle cuz I still want some productivity work. I was only in LA for like a few days so yeah.
I got the same deal! But with the intel I7 14700k
Bruh how do they make a profit?
@@DoppEff From other stuff in their store. they sell bundles at a loss in order to try and get you to buy other stuff in their stores. just like costco
You don't always need upgrade options. Sometimes the best option is just a very good PC today and not pray for the future to come.
Right, when I build my pc I'm not changing anything on it for at least 7 years unless something breaks. If these people are worried about sockets changing they're not building good enough pc's to begin with.
This guys have not the PC and want to upgrade it already, don't enjoy his hardware
@@Dodger_Dawg_ I have B650E with R7 7800X3D which is the best gaming CPU on a platform which will most likely support at least two more full CPU generations. Please, explain to me how is my PC "not good enough"
yeh as someone who upgardes every 5/6 years i don't really care about forward compatability unless its like 6 years
Well in your case. This person would say if you get that socket in 6 years all you will need is a new gpu, cpu, and some more ram. Which he is somewhat right.
This depends on the MoBo you get. If you got some cheap mobo with just modern specs. You might be upset to see that it doesn't work as well as a cheap MoBo would be with that same cpu. So you losing performance while pretty much spending more money then you would if you just kept the cpu and gpu that was more compatiable to begin with. There is a reason these parts come out in the same years time frames. They get lazy on software updates all the time or issues happen.
So what I am saying is. Get a high end Mobo if you plan on buying for a cpu socket set. I never plan on buying a pc this way and I don't think any would should either. You do not save money doing this. @@lrexoticgaming5636
Who buys every year a new CPU for real?
Nearly nobody!
RUclipsrs that do pc stuff.
They bait you to spend more that works out for them
it's not about that, upgrading every 4 to 5 years is nice to maintain the performance of your PC.
instead of changing both the CPU and motherboard, you'll only need to change the CPU.
Motherboards aren't worth upgrading that much imo
@@Raven777777777777777that's a very small percentage.
People with money!
If u buy a pc today, u dont need to upgrade it for at least 4 years, that means u'll need a new motherboard then. I had a i5-7600k till this december and recently upgraded it to a i9-14900k (changed whole pc). No need to upgrade or change for 8-10 years.
Which graphics are you using?
@@suryanarayandasmohapatra5840 I'd presume high for now but as titles demand more cpu/gpu in the future the quality will decline. He's got a valid point which the user must take into account. I'm making the switch to AMD Ryzen 9 7950x with a AMD RX7900 gre. It's usually more than I would spend but I want to experience high/ultra graphics on my car games/Sims and start using VR and streaming this year
Just switched a week ago from i5 7600k, 1070ti to Ryzen 7 7700x and 7800xt with an NZXT B650e motherboard, 32gb 6000mt DDR5 and the difference is absolutely fucking mind blowing in every single tiny way.
@@CavezOfficial
I am still using Intel Pentium dual core processor with lga755 socket for Ms word
Your set up is very good 💯💯
I still use a 3770K + 1050 Ti in my secondary system and it still runs great for lighter/older games. It also has nvenc which is very helpful for rendering videos.
The thing is, when I buy a CPU I dont upgrade it for 5 years. Im still rocking a 9900k. I don't care if the socket will be supported next year.
It'll be a cold day in hell when I abandon my 4690k
I have a 9900k and probably won’t need to upgrade it for another 5 years from now
Amd just has a lot more to offer whether that's cpus or gpus. I just bought a ryzen 7 2700x for 50 usd, the equivalent of that would be an i7 9700k which on eBay, is going for almost 200 dollars
why such an old shit cpu
@@yungerrrnot shit at all
@@ryeser4864 5 generations behind lol, for a new build that's pretty shit. won't handle anything in 2k or even modern AAA past 60 frames in 1080p medium
@yungerrr still a great deal tho depending on the games he plays, I rocked a r5 2600x and 1660 super for years and it ran everything I threw at it, even if it's medium-high settings. Still enjoyable
@@yungerrr1 why are you such a hater. 2 most new games depend tons more on the gpu. Any x600 amd gpu works great still.
I have an A320 motherboard from 2018 and I was able to upgrade from R3 2200g to R5 5600. Performance uplift tripled. AM4 is phenomenal.
you were lucky, that only works on about a 3rd of boards
@@nostrum6410 the mobo site says zen 3 is supported with the correct bios.
Been suuuuuuuper happy with my 7950x
boutta be happy with my 3600
If you're going high end and not planning to regularly upgrade it doesn't matter. Either way if you like me only upgrade every 4 or 5 years you'll most likely need a new motherboard by then either way.
Absolutely agree. Also there is a lot of cases when Intel build can be actually way cheaper. What is also cool and saves money - latest Intel CPUs support both DDR4 and DDR5, so if you already had great DDR4 ram I don't see much reasons to go for DDR5
Here is the facts, alot of people have jumped on the amd bandwagon and it's kinda annoying. So computers is a big hobby of mine. So to the average user on this platform so you don't feel like you made a bad choice or anything let me help you. Intel and AMD are both great, early days of ryzen I wasn't a fan of much absolutely love ryzen now. The 5600x is hands down my favorite CPU from am4. Before you go and buy your parts or prebuilt you can go either way. You shouldn't need to upgrade your PC for years to come so the whole upgrade path is stupid. My buddy finally upgraded after 8 years and his PC was still working great. So go with Intel or amd and your making a good choice either way
yes its really annoying, I'm looking at used pc parts and found a build with a 5800x thats pretty reasonably priced (nordic country so everything is expensive). If I wanted to swap a 7800x3d or something in after it tanks in price in a couple years I can't do that, getting a 5800x3d is a very small upgrade but one I can't afford right now, and getting on am5 now isn't really viable since mobo and ram prices would eat too much of the budget. And even then by the time I wanted an upgrade am5 would be already old gen and I'd have to think about another cpu upgrade the same way. Kind of infuriating, figured I'll just stop caring about future compatability completely, I made it the past 7 years with a ddr3 mobo, it'll be fine
@@neonoir__ 5800x3d will be good for a long time, by the time that cpu struggles with gaming, am6 will be out or maybe am7. i would skip am5 for you as it your 5800x3d will cruch it for a good long while.
This is true for modern computers. Not true back in 2000-2017. Im talking about Pre-Ryzen and when SLI was a thing. I feel like computer building was alot more complicated back then. Now... majority of new parts... if you are just using it in standard 1080p... can last you for YEARS.
Meanwhile me, with a 3470: if a CPU can last 10 years, and still be alright the 5 year long mobo support is uselss.
4170 o/
3930k overclocked for 8 years now. 👍
I used to have a 3470, upgraded to an i9 13900kf
@@LuPy532 i just upgraded to a 5600x. I have no money for gaming but it works like a charm. Also i feel sorry for you, since you have a CPU with a big manufacturing defect.
I was using intel for a very long time and decided to switch to AMD this year. I can’t say it has been a smooth ride especially with the burning X3D issues and currently I have crash issue in games because of PBO I assume.
Gaming? 7800X3D, Editing? Productivity? Intel 12-14th gen 🔥
Don't forget gaming as the 14900K/KS crush any gaming benchmark even with admittedly lower FPS than the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The 14900K/KS can do everything with productivity and content creation workloads with ease for a 10th the price of a Threadripper Pro 7000 (Legendary and worth the premium, but out of most peoples price range). The 7800X3D cannot match either in performance without upgrading to the 7950X3D and properly tuning it in Process Lasso.
Intel is as plug and play as it gets. Power efficiency doesn't matter if your platform lacks stability and quality drivers, which AMD is still struggling with compared to Intel, and especially NVIDIA.
@@iLegionaire3755 I really need your opinion if the i7 14700k is good? Or if the i9 14900k is better?
@@Fryem42014900k is obviously better, but it’s marginal and comes at the cost of a lot of extra heat and power draw. I’m building a high end setup and going for a 14700k. It’s essentially the 14900k without the OC
@@Fryem42014900KS is underrated, by FAR IMO the best Intel CPU ever made, 14900K is also 6 GHZ, 5.7 GHZ all core and very excellent, undervolt the hell out of both the 14900K and the 14900KS. Use a Direct to Die solution and you MUST delid the KS, the K you can skip that. Use an EKG Deta TEC 2 custom loop water cooling Full Nickel solution, for stable all core 6 GHZ on the 14900KS. It gets better, 7 GHZ two performance cores, 6.90 GHZ all core is easy, 14900KS does it idling. BEAST.
@@exhermiti needa askk u sum broo
Being a DDR3 motherboard user, I can confirm I love my AMD A8 and 4gb DDR3 ram! Amd's the catch for me.
Edit: 69 likes!? Leave it guys it's the best number!
Edit -2 : I lost my 69 likes 😭😞
I literally have to use a phone for gaming i dont have a pc or laptop
@@RejectOnYTliterally no one ask
@@RejectOnYT get a pc
I'm a DDR3 too but I have an i7 4790k
@@RejectOnYTget a job
This is great info, literally looking into a PC and was already planning on the 7600.
This aged amazing
I upgrade my pc every 6+ years at this point so I'm good with my new 14th gen
Thats also a point but you wont get npu faster technology and Microsoft is working at using it also lot of developers like Adobe. Btw Microsoft is also Office and ms word or Excel or other will be cooperating in new tools which they told they will be Amazing revolutionary upgrade. So you cant be sure its good for you
@@Wonsztojad Keep hoping.
@@Wonsztojad why tf you care about npu as long it gets the job done its okay
Not to mention amd is STILL making am4 cpus.
Those are still rumors (for now)
@@Jake_EditzYT5500x3d and 5600x3d?
@@eyaadalwazir8229 rumors for now
@@Jake_EditzYT what r u on about. They already a thing
@@PterodactylFN I searched 5500x3d and the first thing that popped up was “5500x3d rumors: what we know so far”
If you can’t buy it and it hasn’t been announced then it’s a rumor
I bought my intel last year, not planning on major upgrades for a long time but the writing was always on the wall for the way NVIDIA and Intel have been going.
Im running an i5 11400f and can't complain
Do you think a i7 14700k is good?? I’m thinking about buying it lmk
@@Fryem420better 🙌🏻
I still dont think if i buy now that i will upgrade untill 2026 or 7. Realistically if you buy a new cpu rn you would expect it to last minimum 5 years
Big question is, whether the motherboard will hold up?? With the amount of options and cheap motherboards, it’s feasible to replace the motherboard +cpu than upgrading just the processor.
Dont buy a cheap MoBo, and you don't have to switch it. i have upgraded my R5 2600 to a 5800X3D on my old B450 Mainboard. And where do you get cheap mainboards?
We not gonna talk about how intel cpus are exploding💀
That's true for AMD is one the best gaming cpu and for Intel is also the best for Productivity and Video Editor as well.
They are both excellent, it only depends on software you use or games you play
I like both of them.
Still happy and content with my AM4.. still lots of upgrade path before i max out AM4
this does remind me that my next upgrade is the cpu. currently sporting a ryzen 5 3600, but if i can find something better that is am4, isnt a minute boost and doesn't break the bank then ill consider getting it.
5600 is not a shabby CPU
5600x. Just ditch my old CPU and upgraded to 5600x. Just gotta be sure your mobo bios is updated to min. version which support the processor that you are planning to buy
5800x3d is probably the best bet in a year or so
Who's here after the 9800X3D
Put simply, AMD has more reasonable prices than Intel for the same performance.
Waiting for intel to optimize the power draw 😂
My i3 12100f is going strong💪
Bro that first cut sounds like "if you're a gaming pc-" 😭😭
Intel all the way, a bit pricy but worth it
Definitely worth it. Better FPS more reliable
@@carlsonbench1827Yeah… no. AMD outclasses Intel when it comes to gaming.
@@OiOi-Jim cope
@@carlsonbench1827 imagine saying cope when the 7800x3d beats the Intel i9-14900K for gaming, do your research and come back fanboy 😂
@@OiOi-Jimleave him bro hes creating own happiness 😂😂
Amd is doing great just would love to see a little drop in price. With how some motherboard are still so expensive even some of the cheaper ones. A motherboard and cpu is like $400 or higher.
Zach I am a programmer, but I also game what type of pc should I build?
Intel (non integrated one) and Nvidia.
That's what people in computing, data compressing, media editing, optimizing use.
Depends on your budget. I would reccomend an AMD card if you use or could potentially use Linux for coding, it is a lot better than the nvidia expierence
@@burkeychathouse5537he wants to game
Yeah I agree with intel and amd though do research on intel cards, only watch new vids as the driver updates are crazy but they have av1 I think encoding and they are budget and have a lot of vram especially the a770 but do research don’t just listen to 1 person
If you're on Windows definitely go for Intel + NVIDIA combo.
thanks brother u just cleared my all doubt i was in a problem to buy what love from india❤❤❤❤❤
I just got a 13600KF 😅
you’ll be fine for at least 6 years
A solid choice. Enjoy it 😊
@@collinwaltz5877 Man, this aged poorly
The battle between Intel and AMD for CPU supremacy continues to be fierce in 2024 with both brands offering strong contenders Here's a breakdown to help you decide:
Current Landscape
*Performance: Intel's 14th Gen Raptor Lake CPUs currently hold the lead in single threaded performance making them ideal for gamers. AMD's Ryzen 7000 series shines in multi-threaded applications, better suited for content creators and professionals. AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D with 3D V-Cache boasts the best gaming performance overall.
* **Price:** Historically, AMD offered better value. While the price gap has narrowed, Intel might still hold a slight edge in some mid-range options.
* **Platform:** AMD's AM4 platform boasts excellent upgrade compatibility across generations. Intel's LGA 1700 socket might require a motherboard change for future upgrades.
**Who Should Choose Which?**
* **Gamers:** For pure gaming, the choice depends. If high frame rates are your priority, consider the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. For a good balance between gaming and price, Intel's Raptor Lake CPUs are strong contenders.
* **Content Creators:** AMD's Ryzen 7000 series with its strong multi-core performance excels here.
* **General Use:** Both brands offer capable CPUs for everyday tasks. Consider factors like price, upgrade path, and specific software compatibility.
**Future Outlook**
* Both Intel and AMD are expected to release new CPU lines in the latter half of 2024.
* Intel might switch sockets and drop DDR4 support with their Arrow Lake processors.
* AMD's Zen 5 architecture promises significant performance improvements, especially for those on the older AM4 platform.
**Recommendation**
Research specific CPU models and benchmarks for your needs. Look at review sites like Tom's Hardware [CPU Benchmarks and Hierarchy 2024: CPU Rankings] to compare performance across different tasks.
"Future proofing" is cool and all. But there is absolutely no reason to upgrade every generation of CPU or GPU. Yes, I know there are things like DLSS 2-3 or AM4 to AM5
But it's just a waste of money.
People out here are still rocking 10 series NVIDIA cards before AMD got good. But even then, if you go for a 30 series or 6000 series GPU, it just depends on what games/programs you'll be running.
As for CPU, Anything with 8 or more cores will Be just fine till games industry learns how to utilize more CPU cores for games, yet there is still people using 13900K for gaming and it's just a big waste of money.
Guarantee 5800x paired with 6700XT will last for 5+ years from now. Things are so different now. Especially if FSR or RSR get better
13900k is for multitasking and workeforce not just gaming !
For me, by the time im financially ready to upgrade, it’s like 2 or 3 socket generations after anyways lol
No way in hell my motherboard is making it to 2025
It got a lot easier to make a choice recently
amd is definitely gonna take the market more and more as and us gamers are here for it.
Intel's 15th gen is shaping up to be a gamechanger. We'll have to wait and see.
@@redslate Okay.
But AMD release the 9800x3d in 2024-2025
So good luck to intel😂
@@lelouchabrilvelda1794 Competition is good.
@@lelouchabrilvelda1794Bro has to defend his fanboy opinion💀
Would you recommend this to someone who does video editing for his job aswell?
Choose Ryzen 4070 its way better
I've never upgraded a computer. With years between machines, and technology advancing all around, its always paid off to just get a new machine.
So for the average users, who changes cpu yearly. Seems like this is a feature that's not for everyone. Just my thoughts
Yup, I completely disagree with everything he is spitting, while yes the am5 support is nice, no one buying a new cpu rn unless you are a massive enthusiast is going to upgrade in the next year. A 13600k massively outperforms a 7800x, and I wouldn't be surprised if the 8000 series still struggles to compete with the 13th gen. This is all a marketing stunt. If I buy an am5 cpu I won't be upgrading for 3 years at least, which at that point neither will be supported, so why go with the worse choice?
@@Ttr0pic17800x3D is the best CPU for a gaming machine.
Thank you for your good work! Your channel is great for informing us busy ones...
Question: Is motherboard support for future AMD CPUs included with new speeds for RAMs that are included in new CPUs? Could you look into that or give us some insights on that?
kinda weird to say an I5 user can't upgrade to an I9 in two years when they have the same socket.
exactly, you can easily upgrade from an i5 to an i9
Same logic applies here. You can upgrade from a Ryzen 5 7600 to a Ryzen 7 8800x3D (or even 9800x3D). That blows the 14900K out of the water (even the current 7800x3D does)
Generally speaking, I've never bothered to upgrade a CPU on the same socket motherboard until I went AMD, whether it was because I went with an I5, or a Ryzen 5. The only time I ever actually had to upgrade a CPU in the same motherboard, was with AMD. First gen Ryzen stopped being supported by Windows 11 after a certain update, so I had to replace it with a newer generation AM4 to be able to update my Windows 11 anymore which also required me flashing the bios to be able to use the newer CPU as the older bios didn't support the newer CPU. By the time you notice your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU, it's usually about time to upgrade to a newer socket/board/ram anyways.
And whats your benefit from switching i5 to i9? 10% more FPS? It makes no sense! It wll be the same architecture CPU. But you can't switch to 15 gen Intel, that's what you don't get.
@@BulletToothKnecht I don't need a gen 15 yet. Do you?
I personally think future proofing should only be a thing people consider if they are the latest and greatest types that like frequent updates.
I built my mid range pc in 2021, and I still dont think I need an upgrade because it still works amazingly. The performance i would gain is minimal unless I jump up to the next tier up of cpus which I think is overkill.
I just hope my motherboard can last until 2025
Who knows. Maybe it will. My mom’s pc is like 15 years old and the only upgrade it’s gotten was a gtx 1050. Ya it’s slow but it still works
Old B350s did not last until today, so this video isn’t actually the most realistic.
I've got PCs older than myself that still run. Unless you're abusing it, any halfway decent MoBo will outlast its usefulness.
“Oh damn why’ve they done that”
- a prebuilt purchaser
I am now on Team Red and the 7800X3D. I WON’T return to Intel for a VERY long time. My Core i9 14900K overvolted itself to death on finals. AMD it is for me. Intel has lost consumer confidence and needs a comeback.
I was an Intel fanboy for two decades, it feels good to drop brand loyalty. Having said this I am fast becoming an AMD fanboy rapidly these days.
what about gpus tho? (i know i know the rx 5700 xt is the best for budget builds) i think the arc is slowly getting better too. what do you think of intel ark gpus?
That is the stupidest advice ever, Who ever builds PC to only last 2 years is just waisting money. Build a PC that will last you 4-8 years like mine. I work in IT, in my life I had 3 personal build PC because the first 2 pc lasted me close to 16 years in total. This year I build my 3 one and will not be surprised it will last another 6+ years.
Only tech channels like this think everyone is upgrading every single time a new socket launches. What happens in reality, is that every release there is a portion of the population that has a 5+ year old PC that's due for an upgrade finally.
Still rocking an i7 3770k vut its nolonger good for games , going to go with 14th gen and have it for 10 years
So can you tell me if I should wait for new gen CPUs or build AMD now? And which setup it should be I'm thinking about 5800x3d . Thanks
@@DRTIK0L Man you need to look in to a couple things first. First look at the type of games you play, are they 2D, 3D, FPS, Open World or Very intence in visual graphics. Then you need to check your monitor what kind of monitor you use, the size doesn;t really matter what matters is if it is 1080, 1440 or 4k. Then you need to decide how long you want your PC to last. If you are building a PC that you are planning to upgrade in like 2 years then fine buy cheap but if you want to have a pc that will last you min. of 4 years with no need to upgrade. Then you must save up or borrow more money. Nvidia no matter how much we all hate them is still the one producing the best GPU out there and in most games Nvidia GPU will run better and will get better fps even if it is a lower eng graphics card. Further more if you buy a really high end CPU like a i7 - 12,13 gen or a i9 - 12, 13 or 14 gen then you know that thing will last you 5 years easily, in my country in most stores the CPU gets 5-6 year warranty. So you can imagine how secure they are (granted remember to change the thermalpaste every 6-12 months) but still. Just always remember the more you spend now the more you will save later.
Good luck
@@DRTIK0L Pretty much any of the AM4 stuff is fine, I recommend anyone avoids first gen AM5 after the whole CPU's burning in the socket though. Yes I know they've had bios updates to address it, I still wouldn't want to buy a generation of CPU that had it happen at all given thats EXTREMELY abnormal in the CPU world. It really scares me to the point that I think it has some rushed product stuff going on behind it. I've never heard of that happening before.
That’s great to hear that AMD seems to care about longevity with their CPU and motherboard compatibility. What’s really keeping me from switching from Intel to AMD is Intel’s screen capture software “Gforce Experience”. Is there an AMD equivalent?
Team Intel
👇
14700K
r7 7800x3d
@@Phan1hs lol that’s team intel ofc
14700K 🩵
Just waiting to next year and expanding my budget. When the 15th gen will launch I will grab an i5 15600k or i7 15700k
lack of hyper threading may be an issue, unless the e cores have some serious improvements
Next Intel gen will be Core Ultra 100 or 200 not Core 15000 😉
Also in Ryzen CPUs you can still boost their performance later on with better ram. You get up to 10%
Yes but keep In mind that as 14 gen i7 is still pretty good
I'm going to be making the switch from my old 8700k/1080 Ti and I'm wanting to know if the 7800x3d/7900xtx will be good for my gaming and Photo/video editing as well. I cant seem to find to much on it but I always watch you on TikTok and love the content and info
Thanks
I might go intel because I will need lots of cores. Video editing, streaming, gaming, etc.
I just upgraded from an Intel Core i7-8700 to an Intel Core i9-12900KF and the 8700 has been able to play every modern AAA game at 1080p with fps above 100. With that being said your average gamer doesn’t have to upgrade every year if they buy any cpu above an i7.
what if im building a mid range pc for ~800$? I was planning on getting the i5 12400f, and there is a very obvious upgrade path from that, up to something like a i9 14900K. But there is no AMD alternative to an i5 12400f that uses the AM5 socket. So is it worth for me to spend an extra 80$ on a cpu, just so its cheaper for me to upgrade in 5 years time? I feel like intel is still a good option, especially if youre building a budget to midrange pc.
Intel always a good option :P Don't listen to AMD fans they are crazy
But there is no AMD alternative to an i5 12400f that uses the AM5 socket
The 7500f exists
@@riven4121 it is 50€ more, that is no alternative
I have loved Ryzen since I started in PCs (acknowledging its flaws such as the high price of the 5000 series, taking advantage of the fact that they were gaining market share against Intel, and the lack of performance of the 7000 series compared to Intel 13th and 14th generation)
This year I was thinking of making a build with a 7900x and update in about 4-7 years, when they have already moved to am6 and the top of the range of this socket are cheap, but I recently found a 13700k for 200 and I did not hesitate to buy it . The b760 motherboard was cheaper than the one I was looking for for the 7900x, being from the same range and product line (Asus TUF).
The set was 230 cheaper and I am very happy, now I am just waiting for the parts to assemble and test with my Gigabyte 2060, which I plan to upgrade in a few weeks (or months) to a 4070 super, depending on how the prices are.
sounds like youre about to have a killer set up! 12600k and 3060 12gb here and theres not a hiccup
Amd and intel are both great. Never tried amd, probably will never as I'm used to intel, but it's cool to see the support they have for older gen sockets.
I have i5-13600K which is a beast of a CPU, along with RX 7800 XT that will last me like 5 years. There's no need to upgrade your CPU every year or two years if you just play games on it and are not some tech youtuber or video editor that needs the newest hardware every year.
I only went with intel because it's what I know, and microcenter really hooked it up with an i7 12700K, 16 gb ram, and a msi mobo for $350.
I got the same deal! Except the aorus mobo
I made a PC three days ago with a Ryzen 5 7600 X and an RX 7700 XT. I think it will stay with me for quite some time.
Hi Zack! I'm going to be building a around 600$ pc rn. I'm going to use am4 with a ryzen 5 3600. Should i wait until march 2024 to get enough money for am5?
Take 1700 socket and be happy.
@@ANARCHY_13 Thanks! Though equivalent specs will be around 80 more expensive. I will consider
I last got an am4 motherboard with R7 5700x and I think this CPU is still. Damn good, especially the R7 5900x3D exists I'm not worried
After I've built my computer this year, I won't look to upgrade for the next 5 to 10 years. (Still rocking with my 3rd gen intel cpu)
I dont get the idea of “upgrade path” when i dont know a single person that upgrades cpus less than 5 years. Unless your using really cpu heavy workloads, theres no reason to upgrade every gen.
many people might not upgrade that often but its still nice to have the option on the same socket
My custom pc is with Ryzen 5 7500F with RX 6700 XT...never been happier
Should I build a gaming/multimedia PC with the Intel i9 15900k and a Nvidia RTX 4080 Super/5080 or the Ryzen 9 9950X and a 4080 Super/5080?
What are some good brands for motherboards for both Intel and AMD CPUs? I have heard ASUS and Gigabyte are not great in terms of quality.
Can I use G.Skills 7200mt RGB 32gb (16x2) XMP 3.0 compatible ram with an AMD CPU and AM5 motherboard?
It honestly doesn't matter. With how fast tec goes you're going to have to replace everything every 4-5 years. So don't built to upgrade because it doesn't matter. Just build for your current needs.
But make sure that u have high tdp to support overclocking and newer cpus
So Zack, are you also meaning to not get the Intel Core Ultra Processor series or No?
Me, an engineer. Over here looking at the intel wattage/voltage issue in the chips and the AMD secure boot leaks while playing w my shiny brand new RISC V chips u can get for 1/13th the cost.
If you buy a weak processor with an upgrade in mind, I agree, but if you have an i9 13900, you probably won't replace it in two years.
And beyond is the important part of that statement. 2025 isn't that far off. Chances are you probably don't need to upgrade until much later.
Glazing is crazy
And for 20% of the price🥰
I think that will drop the price of the 12-14 gen for budget gamers in the future
I just made the switch from Intel/Nvidia for full AMD on 2 of my PCs. Couldn’t be happier!
I did the opposite
Cant be happier (I didnt but your comment is funny)
This dude Stan’s amd graphics cards so I’m a million % sure he’s not reliable in any way, shape, or form to answer this question without an outrageously obvious biased answer
totally understand the arguments, but hear me out:
many cpus last at least 6 years of work and good ones last at least 6 years of good performance, so going with some good cpu today (by my conception) is totally fine. just built one with a 13600k and by my gut i feel it'll be strong for the next sockets launch.
also, upgrading a 12th gen to a 14th gen imo is kind of a waste, at least where i live in where cutting edge electronics are way more expensive that they should be, so getting rid of a 3y cpu sounds a bit bad
i would love to discuss this with more people!
I've been on AM4 since 2018. Still riding it out with a 5800X3D.
I've kept most of my PCs for nearly a decade before finally calling it in. I've built 3 systems so far. Future-proofing is not a real argument.
That's a huge factor for me (the upgradeability) which is why I'll consider AMD for the next build.
Hi, would like to know which one would u recommend. I5 13400f or ryzen 5 7600x? Mainly for gaming casual (SC2, cyberpunk,some old games)( 90% ), editing. The price difference here around 20$ ( amd more expensive). Or i3 13th should do the job done?
I'd always go with AMD of there wasn't the availability issues here
A 7700x (the cheapest one I could find) is almost the same price as a 14600k and a 7600x is more expensive than that 💀 (how???) A 7500f is around the same price as 5700g... Wtf is a 7500x? Never seen it
Thank you so much. You gave me exactly the answer I was looking for. I favoured AMD either way☺️
It also depends on your preference, I prefer intel because I have had a easy and nice time using them and the work great and some people the some but with amd. Just hate it when people get heated because of them
Upgrading CPU's in the same socket as a reason to go AMD is just straight bad reasoning. Assuming a 5 year upgrade cycle you will most likely be buying a new MB anyways. But even if you bought a first gen AM4 for instance waited 5 years and then bought another CPU you are still giving up pref on a part of the computer that is one of the less expensive ones.
If you upgrade every 2-3 years you are either well off and don't care and should just buy a current chipset anyways or you did not buy enough CPU when putting together the system if it needs a upgrade so soon.
The AMD vs Intel question comes down to what you are doing with the computer and the budget. X3D is very attractive to Gamers, when it works that is.
Yes yes, but intel chips also make good heaters for the winter
Dude be making some funny
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