@polar6826 competitive?😂 ryzen 7 7800x3d is faster than 14900k with less power usage, and its way cheaper! It's literally no competition at all in gaming only
@@AlanCulerwhile the i3 12100f is a great option for budget gamers, you can also go the AM4 route and get a 5600, which you still gives you a nice upgrade path to a 5800X3D, 12100f is still a good option though
One of the reasons that made me switch from Intel to AMD in 2019 was the socket's longevity. It's crazy how I can still use my 2019 mobo to buy modern CPU's
This is the reason folks like Apple computers, too. They get lots of software and other support for a long time. Normie pc fans don’t get Apple love. Even this RUclipsr himself uses his Mac laptop daily. There really isn’t a better laptop or mini pc (Mac mini) for thermals, noise, energy consumption, ecosystem, and performance.
nahh. It's just for budget since most rich people and companies will choose intel over AMD because intel have better compatibility with all software compared to AMD Maybe this also the reason intel and Nvidia is slightly more expensive, because they really do test and pay the software to be compatible and optimize with their products Unlike AMD who doesn't care about compatibility and optimization. That's why they're cheap
@@TheTez1990 yea true, shouldn't only for gaming. But for budget gamers since most Rich gamers that spend ton of dollars to game and their PC will choose Nvidia Over AMD Since there's no GPU that can surpass 4090 yet. Even AMD doesn't have a GPU that are the same performance as 4090 Edit : And not they almost releasing 4090TI lmao 🤣
@azizsetyawan3038 yeah but a gpu half the price gets damn close to the second in command for about half the price... the options are pretty obvious when you think about it...
@@randomanun4278 wtf half price. There's no such a things expect you buying a used GPU Even RX6700 only 10-15% cheaper than RTX 4060TI nowadays. But 4060ti have 5-10% better performance overall Not even half the price. Definitely i choose Nvidia because it's only have 10% price difference while give you 5-10% more performance And optimize for every single software including editing, rendering, 3D designing, animating, ect
Damn Tustin Microcenter had it sold out, so I went with the 13700k bundle cuz I still want some productivity work. I was only in LA for like a few days so yeah.
@@DoppEff From other stuff in their store. they sell bundles at a loss in order to try and get you to buy other stuff in their stores. just like costco
Right, when I build my pc I'm not changing anything on it for at least 7 years unless something breaks. If these people are worried about sockets changing they're not building good enough pc's to begin with.
@@Dodger_Dawg_ I have B650E with R7 7800X3D which is the best gaming CPU on a platform which will most likely support at least two more full CPU generations. Please, explain to me how is my PC "not good enough"
Well in your case. This person would say if you get that socket in 6 years all you will need is a new gpu, cpu, and some more ram. Which he is somewhat right. This depends on the MoBo you get. If you got some cheap mobo with just modern specs. You might be upset to see that it doesn't work as well as a cheap MoBo would be with that same cpu. So you losing performance while pretty much spending more money then you would if you just kept the cpu and gpu that was more compatiable to begin with. There is a reason these parts come out in the same years time frames. They get lazy on software updates all the time or issues happen. So what I am saying is. Get a high end Mobo if you plan on buying for a cpu socket set. I never plan on buying a pc this way and I don't think any would should either. You do not save money doing this. @@lrexoticgaming5636
it's not about that, upgrading every 4 to 5 years is nice to maintain the performance of your PC. instead of changing both the CPU and motherboard, you'll only need to change the CPU. Motherboards aren't worth upgrading that much imo
Amd just has a lot more to offer whether that's cpus or gpus. I just bought a ryzen 7 2700x for 50 usd, the equivalent of that would be an i7 9700k which on eBay, is going for almost 200 dollars
@@ryeser4864 5 generations behind lol, for a new build that's pretty shit. won't handle anything in 2k or even modern AAA past 60 frames in 1080p medium
@yungerrr still a great deal tho depending on the games he plays, I rocked a r5 2600x and 1660 super for years and it ran everything I threw at it, even if it's medium-high settings. Still enjoyable
If u buy a pc today, u dont need to upgrade it for at least 4 years, that means u'll need a new motherboard then. I had a i5-7600k till this december and recently upgraded it to a i9-14900k (changed whole pc). No need to upgrade or change for 8-10 years.
@@suryanarayandasmohapatra5840 I'd presume high for now but as titles demand more cpu/gpu in the future the quality will decline. He's got a valid point which the user must take into account. I'm making the switch to AMD Ryzen 9 7950x with a AMD RX7900 gre. It's usually more than I would spend but I want to experience high/ultra graphics on my car games/Sims and start using VR and streaming this year
Just switched a week ago from i5 7600k, 1070ti to Ryzen 7 7700x and 7800xt with an NZXT B650e motherboard, 32gb 6000mt DDR5 and the difference is absolutely fucking mind blowing in every single tiny way.
I still use a 3770K + 1050 Ti in my secondary system and it still runs great for lighter/older games. It also has nvenc which is very helpful for rendering videos.
Being a DDR3 motherboard user, I can confirm I love my AMD A8 and 4gb DDR3 ram! Amd's the catch for me. Edit: 69 likes!? Leave it guys it's the best number! Edit -2 : I lost my 69 likes 😭😞
@@LuPy532 i just upgraded to a 5600x. I have no money for gaming but it works like a charm. Also i feel sorry for you, since you have a CPU with a big manufacturing defect.
If you're going high end and not planning to regularly upgrade it doesn't matter. Either way if you like me only upgrade every 4 or 5 years you'll most likely need a new motherboard by then either way.
Absolutely agree. Also there is a lot of cases when Intel build can be actually way cheaper. What is also cool and saves money - latest Intel CPUs support both DDR4 and DDR5, so if you already had great DDR4 ram I don't see much reasons to go for DDR5
I was using intel for a very long time and decided to switch to AMD this year. I can’t say it has been a smooth ride especially with the burning X3D issues and currently I have crash issue in games because of PBO I assume.
Don't forget gaming as the 14900K/KS crush any gaming benchmark even with admittedly lower FPS than the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The 14900K/KS can do everything with productivity and content creation workloads with ease for a 10th the price of a Threadripper Pro 7000 (Legendary and worth the premium, but out of most peoples price range). The 7800X3D cannot match either in performance without upgrading to the 7950X3D and properly tuning it in Process Lasso. Intel is as plug and play as it gets. Power efficiency doesn't matter if your platform lacks stability and quality drivers, which AMD is still struggling with compared to Intel, and especially NVIDIA.
@@Fryem42014900k is obviously better, but it’s marginal and comes at the cost of a lot of extra heat and power draw. I’m building a high end setup and going for a 14700k. It’s essentially the 14900k without the OC
@@Fryem42014900KS is underrated, by FAR IMO the best Intel CPU ever made, 14900K is also 6 GHZ, 5.7 GHZ all core and very excellent, undervolt the hell out of both the 14900K and the 14900KS. Use a Direct to Die solution and you MUST delid the KS, the K you can skip that. Use an EKG Deta TEC 2 custom loop water cooling Full Nickel solution, for stable all core 6 GHZ on the 14900KS. It gets better, 7 GHZ two performance cores, 6.90 GHZ all core is easy, 14900KS does it idling. BEAST.
Thats also a point but you wont get npu faster technology and Microsoft is working at using it also lot of developers like Adobe. Btw Microsoft is also Office and ms word or Excel or other will be cooperating in new tools which they told they will be Amazing revolutionary upgrade. So you cant be sure its good for you
Big question is, whether the motherboard will hold up?? With the amount of options and cheap motherboards, it’s feasible to replace the motherboard +cpu than upgrading just the processor.
Dont buy a cheap MoBo, and you don't have to switch it. i have upgraded my R5 2600 to a 5800X3D on my old B450 Mainboard. And where do you get cheap mainboards?
Here is the facts, alot of people have jumped on the amd bandwagon and it's kinda annoying. So computers is a big hobby of mine. So to the average user on this platform so you don't feel like you made a bad choice or anything let me help you. Intel and AMD are both great, early days of ryzen I wasn't a fan of much absolutely love ryzen now. The 5600x is hands down my favorite CPU from am4. Before you go and buy your parts or prebuilt you can go either way. You shouldn't need to upgrade your PC for years to come so the whole upgrade path is stupid. My buddy finally upgraded after 8 years and his PC was still working great. So go with Intel or amd and your making a good choice either way
yes its really annoying, I'm looking at used pc parts and found a build with a 5800x thats pretty reasonably priced (nordic country so everything is expensive). If I wanted to swap a 7800x3d or something in after it tanks in price in a couple years I can't do that, getting a 5800x3d is a very small upgrade but one I can't afford right now, and getting on am5 now isn't really viable since mobo and ram prices would eat too much of the budget. And even then by the time I wanted an upgrade am5 would be already old gen and I'd have to think about another cpu upgrade the same way. Kind of infuriating, figured I'll just stop caring about future compatability completely, I made it the past 7 years with a ddr3 mobo, it'll be fine
@@neonoir__ 5800x3d will be good for a long time, by the time that cpu struggles with gaming, am6 will be out or maybe am7. i would skip am5 for you as it your 5800x3d will cruch it for a good long while.
This is true for modern computers. Not true back in 2000-2017. Im talking about Pre-Ryzen and when SLI was a thing. I feel like computer building was alot more complicated back then. Now... majority of new parts... if you are just using it in standard 1080p... can last you for YEARS.
@@PterodactylFN I searched 5500x3d and the first thing that popped up was “5500x3d rumors: what we know so far” If you can’t buy it and it hasn’t been announced then it’s a rumor
I'm going to be making the switch from my old 8700k/1080 Ti and I'm wanting to know if the 7800x3d/7900xtx will be good for my gaming and Photo/video editing as well. I cant seem to find to much on it but I always watch you on TikTok and love the content and info
It depends upon how we are thinking like I can spend my all money to buy the best gaming PC then I have to wait 5 years only just to buy a new PC because the PC that I will buy today can support up to after like 5 years and I wouldn't have to upgrade so if I go with inter after 5 years the motherboard will change but in AMD also the motherboard will also change in five years
Major Update: I am now on Team Red and the 7800X3D. I WON’T return to Intel for a VERY long time. My Core i9 14900K overvolted itself to death on finals. AMD it is for me. LGA 1700 socket users are future-proofed even without a new motherboard for most tasks and workloads due to the utterly insane clock speeds of the 14900K and 14900KS. Seriously with EKG DELTA TEC 2 Custom Loop Water/Liquid Cooling the 14900KS can hit 6.90 on the performance cores and 7 GHZ with efficiency cores disabled. Properly direct to die. CPU properly decided first, you NEED to consider the i9 14900KS! For a dead socket, talk about longevity. EKG DELTA TEC 2 Custom Loop Water/Liquid Cooling is NOT optional for Raptor Lake, it's the ONLY way to game stable at all core 6 GHZ! Without this setup, you MUST undervolt and underclock the Raptor Lake processors for gaming, get the EKG DELTA TEC 2 Custom Loop Water/Liquid Cooling its well worth it, that is my next step Intel or AMD. For the record I am pro-Intel and AMD, I slightly prefer Intel but plan a second AMD build. Specifically Threadripper PRO within 3 years to 5 years to a decade, so I can make more video games than just play them evenly. And the 7800X3D is still the best gaming CPU around bar none. Intel needs to seriously copy AMD's love for their customers on AM5 with remarkable long-term socket support. The Intel Arrow Lake LGA 1851 socket must last as long as AMD's AM5 for Intel to be taken more seriously (supporting at least Panther Lake and Beast Lake), and not keep forcing people to keep buying new motherboards with every new Intel processor.
I just upgraded from an Intel Core i7-8700 to an Intel Core i9-12900KF and the 8700 has been able to play every modern AAA game at 1080p with fps above 100. With that being said your average gamer doesn’t have to upgrade every year if they buy any cpu above an i7.
I have i5-13600K which is a beast of a CPU, along with RX 7800 XT that will last me like 5 years. There's no need to upgrade your CPU every year or two years if you just play games on it and are not some tech youtuber or video editor that needs the newest hardware every year.
Should I build a gaming/multimedia PC with the Intel i9 15900k and a Nvidia RTX 4080 Super/5080 or the Ryzen 9 9950X and a 4080 Super/5080? What are some good brands for motherboards for both Intel and AMD CPUs? I have heard ASUS and Gigabyte are not great in terms of quality. Can I use G.Skills 7200mt RGB 32gb (16x2) XMP 3.0 compatible ram with an AMD CPU and AM5 motherboard?
Me and my homies are still using 3rd and 4th gen Intel CPUs and to be honest we don't feel like we need to upgrade... So my friends as long as it's working and you don't really need, save your money. And later on just do it for once
"Future proofing" is cool and all. But there is absolutely no reason to upgrade every generation of CPU or GPU. Yes, I know there are things like DLSS 2-3 or AM4 to AM5 But it's just a waste of money. People out here are still rocking 10 series NVIDIA cards before AMD got good. But even then, if you go for a 30 series or 6000 series GPU, it just depends on what games/programs you'll be running. As for CPU, Anything with 8 or more cores will Be just fine till games industry learns how to utilize more CPU cores for games, yet there is still people using 13900K for gaming and it's just a big waste of money. Guarantee 5800x paired with 6700XT will last for 5+ years from now. Things are so different now. Especially if FSR or RSR get better
This dude Stan’s amd graphics cards so I’m a million % sure he’s not reliable in any way, shape, or form to answer this question without an outrageously obvious biased answer
Yeah but by having the latest motherboard/socket, you’re staying super up to date and not using an ancient motherboard. Expense isn’t even really a big deal cause you can just sell old parts.
That is the stupidest advice ever, Who ever builds PC to only last 2 years is just waisting money. Build a PC that will last you 4-8 years like mine. I work in IT, in my life I had 3 personal build PC because the first 2 pc lasted me close to 16 years in total. This year I build my 3 one and will not be surprised it will last another 6+ years.
Only tech channels like this think everyone is upgrading every single time a new socket launches. What happens in reality, is that every release there is a portion of the population that has a 5+ year old PC that's due for an upgrade finally.
@@DRTIK0L Man you need to look in to a couple things first. First look at the type of games you play, are they 2D, 3D, FPS, Open World or Very intence in visual graphics. Then you need to check your monitor what kind of monitor you use, the size doesn;t really matter what matters is if it is 1080, 1440 or 4k. Then you need to decide how long you want your PC to last. If you are building a PC that you are planning to upgrade in like 2 years then fine buy cheap but if you want to have a pc that will last you min. of 4 years with no need to upgrade. Then you must save up or borrow more money. Nvidia no matter how much we all hate them is still the one producing the best GPU out there and in most games Nvidia GPU will run better and will get better fps even if it is a lower eng graphics card. Further more if you buy a really high end CPU like a i7 - 12,13 gen or a i9 - 12, 13 or 14 gen then you know that thing will last you 5 years easily, in my country in most stores the CPU gets 5-6 year warranty. So you can imagine how secure they are (granted remember to change the thermalpaste every 6-12 months) but still. Just always remember the more you spend now the more you will save later. Good luck
@@DRTIK0L Pretty much any of the AM4 stuff is fine, I recommend anyone avoids first gen AM5 after the whole CPU's burning in the socket though. Yes I know they've had bios updates to address it, I still wouldn't want to buy a generation of CPU that had it happen at all given thats EXTREMELY abnormal in the CPU world. It really scares me to the point that I think it has some rushed product stuff going on behind it. I've never heard of that happening before.
Just a thought, if you upgrade your CPU after let's say 4 years which is actually preatty realistic, there is no way you'll just upgrade. New PCIE, new Ram new whatever will be needed if you want 4k gaming and if you'll go for 1080p you won't have to upgrade until your hardware basicaly dies 😅. So go for what will be more long lasting, without a upgrade, or whatever suites your budged.
Ontop of the futureproofing.. I'm so tired of having to manually disable the stupid efficiency cores via bios in computers I deploy because they wont park properly when colleagues start heavy workload tasks and causes constant BSODs.
@@MrMin316 It's a fact. The 7800x3D trades blows with the 14900k in gaming, while being much more efficient and cheaper. If you only want to play games, it is objectively the best CPU right now.
@@lelouchabrilvelda1794 Well i have built both, AMD and Intel and the one i have now consists of NZXT H6 Flow, Intel i9 13900k, I did have Asus ROG Maximus Hero. But found out that one of the pins were bent, so i enxchange it for a NZXT N7 z790. TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-51200C40 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit - White, NZXT Kraken 360 AIO Cooler , 9 RGB fans and Nvidia RTX 4090 TI and it's best i have built so far. Runs like a dream.
Idrk about gaming pcs but wouldn’t it be fine to just get an amd motherboard or something that has more holes so it could fit future intel generations?
Always had AMD but went for the i5 12400f to replace my Ryzen 5 1500x, having DDR4 anyway together with a cheaper motherboard option it was just a no brainer. I did have upgradabilty in mind but honestly there's nothing I do that this i5 has any problems with.
Hi Zack! I'm going to be building a around 600$ pc rn. I'm going to use am4 with a ryzen 5 3600. Should i wait until march 2024 to get enough money for am5?
totally understand the arguments, but hear me out: many cpus last at least 6 years of work and good ones last at least 6 years of good performance, so going with some good cpu today (by my conception) is totally fine. just built one with a 13600k and by my gut i feel it'll be strong for the next sockets launch. also, upgrading a 12th gen to a 14th gen imo is kind of a waste, at least where i live in where cutting edge electronics are way more expensive that they should be, so getting rid of a 3y cpu sounds a bit bad i would love to discuss this with more people!
Intel is for those people who genuinely don’t give a shit about their money, it tops the board in both performance and greatly tops in price over the years. AMD is for us mortals stuck on the ground.
GPUs are currently working with DDR6, so CPU technology is a lot behind; I think I can fully future proof my PC set by attempting to allow CPU technology to catch up. . .
I dont get the idea of “upgrade path” when i dont know a single person that upgrades cpus less than 5 years. Unless your using really cpu heavy workloads, theres no reason to upgrade every gen.
Upgrading CPU's in the same socket as a reason to go AMD is just straight bad reasoning. Assuming a 5 year upgrade cycle you will most likely be buying a new MB anyways. But even if you bought a first gen AM4 for instance waited 5 years and then bought another CPU you are still giving up pref on a part of the computer that is one of the less expensive ones. If you upgrade every 2-3 years you are either well off and don't care and should just buy a current chipset anyways or you did not buy enough CPU when putting together the system if it needs a upgrade so soon. The AMD vs Intel question comes down to what you are doing with the computer and the budget. X3D is very attractive to Gamers, when it works that is.
Paying more for futureproofing is most of the time a bad decision. There are some special cases, but for general gaming, If you have a set budget, build the best machine you can afford
Amd and intel are both great. Never tried amd, probably will never as I'm used to intel, but it's cool to see the support they have for older gen sockets.
I have never had any issues with all my intel cpu’s over the last 8 years but have had many friends have problems with there amd cpu’s not saying there not reliable just in my personal experience
i'm genuinely in a bind here, i love amd but it's been hard to choose wheter to change to intel or keep going with amd, i'm trying to decide wheter to upgrade to the amd ryzen 9 (newest one available) or to the intel's i9 (also their newest one). spec wise intel is little bit ahead of amd however intel is a little bit cheaper so i feel like intel is the clear winner, but then we have as said in the video, longivety, i can still mabey upgrade in about 10 years time back to amd but yeah idk i can't choose one since both are great options.
Me, an engineer. Over here looking at the intel wattage/voltage issue in the chips and the AMD secure boot leaks while playing w my shiny brand new RISC V chips u can get for 1/13th the cost.
me had a320m with 32g +16gb 2666 still game even newer games like farlight 84 and r5 26 with msi b450m a pro max + 16gb 3200mhz + 1660ti still gaming even tripple AAA title with costum preset
Fortunately the cpu market is way better than the gpu market right now, best gaming cpu which is the 7800x3d is massively cheaper than the best gaming gpu, and if you want something even cheaper an i5 13600k is way way more than enough nowadays and its only around 300 bucks
You could basically say the same thing like few years ago when the same predicament happend but it was amd and not intel. Also take in the account that threadrippers, basically the best upgrade route for amd is locked behind their own motherboards.
what if im building a mid range pc for ~800$? I was planning on getting the i5 12400f, and there is a very obvious upgrade path from that, up to something like a i9 14900K. But there is no AMD alternative to an i5 12400f that uses the AM5 socket. So is it worth for me to spend an extra 80$ on a cpu, just so its cheaper for me to upgrade in 5 years time? I feel like intel is still a good option, especially if youre building a budget to midrange pc.
I have a 10 year old pc with an i7-4790, no graphics card, and 16 gb of ddr3 ram. Any upgrade is good, cuz this thing has been a beast, when it still had it's 980 ti 💀 I just recently bought a pc with i7-14700kf, 4070 super and 32 gb of ddr5 ram. So i will be set for a LONG time 😂 Not just for gaming, but for school/work also.
AMD being AMD Again launching a single SoC but support it for ages unknown. I really love that instead of launching a SoC but only support for a generation or 2. Or roughly 3 if you see LGA 1700
And yet I had the most problem with my hardware over the last 3 years being on an AMD system :S I JUST bought myself a new system and it's all Inten/Nvidia again. Price/Value might be better on AMD, but stability IS better on Intel/Nvidia.
I bought a pre built a year or 2 ago as I thought it was a good way to get into PC gaming, which it is, it has an i7-12700f and that’s fine for me considering I am not really focused on getting the best components out there and I still have 2 gens of intel CPUs to go
chipsets are important. try buying the first model of the AM4 board for example, ram in the newest AM4 CPU to see how well it handles. it doesn't. socket is just 50% of how compatible the cpu is with the motherboard , what you just said is for everyone to get the first gen AM5 boards that will maybe only support couple of CPUs until they start to build cpus that won't be compatible with the 1st gen chipset. i know people who got an "LGA 1200" motherboard for their 11th gen intel and it didn't work, why? Chipset.
A 7700x (the cheapest one I could find) is almost the same price as a 14600k and a 7600x is more expensive than that 💀 (how???) A 7500f is around the same price as 5700g... Wtf is a 7500x? Never seen it
I really dont see who is upgrading their PC anymore. I mean same mother board with newer CPU. The wise choice is allocating right amount of money within my budget so I dont feel the necessity of upgrading it later. If I don't feel I can allocate just right, I'm better off putting that money for some other use than PC building.
AMD has less "friction" when it comes to upgrading your PC thanks to longer support for its CPU sockets. Pretty neat incumbent advantage to have. I wish Intel good luck. Admittedly my most likely upgrade will be a Ryzen 9000 series 3DX chip.
intel 12th gen actually packed the biggest punch and still does today . Specially the i5 12600k which is less than the ryzen 7 5800x3d but better ( in my country ) .
amd is probably the best cpu/gpu company for budget gamers
not just budget their top tier cpus are very very competitive with intel
True
i3 12th and 13 gen would like to know your location
@polar6826 competitive?😂 ryzen 7 7800x3d is faster than 14900k with less power usage, and its way cheaper! It's literally no competition at all in gaming only
@@AlanCulerwhile the i3 12100f is a great option for budget gamers, you can also go the AM4 route and get a 5600, which you still gives you a nice upgrade path to a 5800X3D, 12100f is still a good option though
One of the reasons that made me switch from Intel to AMD in 2019 was the socket's longevity. It's crazy how I can still use my 2019 mobo to buy modern CPU's
2019, that would put you at a B450 or X470?
@@drew2626 I'm rocking a 3900x on a x570
This is the reason folks like Apple computers, too. They get lots of software and other support for a long time.
Normie pc fans don’t get Apple love. Even this RUclipsr himself uses his Mac laptop daily. There really isn’t a better laptop or mini pc (Mac mini) for thermals, noise, energy consumption, ecosystem, and performance.
@@DengueBurgerapple also thinks their 8gb of mac ram is equivalent to 16gb of pc ram
Fr i have a r5 2600 and going to upgrade to a r5 5600x with out having to switch mobo unlike my friend who has Intel and has to upgrade his😢
AMD has been making big moves that gamers are here for
nahh. It's just for budget since most rich people and companies will choose intel over AMD because intel have better compatibility with all software compared to AMD
Maybe this also the reason intel and Nvidia is slightly more expensive, because they really do test and pay the software to be compatible and optimize with their products
Unlike AMD who doesn't care about compatibility and optimization. That's why they're cheap
@@azizsetyawan3038this comment was so damn stupid
@@TheTez1990 yea true, shouldn't only for gaming. But for budget gamers since most Rich gamers that spend ton of dollars to game and their PC will choose Nvidia Over AMD
Since there's no GPU that can surpass 4090 yet. Even AMD doesn't have a GPU that are the same performance as 4090
Edit :
And not they almost releasing 4090TI lmao 🤣
@azizsetyawan3038 yeah but a gpu half the price gets damn close to the second in command for about half the price... the options are pretty obvious when you think about it...
@@randomanun4278
wtf half price. There's no such a things expect you buying a used GPU
Even RX6700 only 10-15% cheaper than RTX 4060TI nowadays. But 4060ti have 5-10% better performance overall
Not even half the price. Definitely i choose Nvidia because it's only have 10% price difference while give you 5-10% more performance
And optimize for every single software including editing, rendering, 3D designing, animating, ect
Microcenter had a crazy nice deal on a 7800x3d motherboard and 32g of 6k ddr5 ram for like $499. Best Christmas present ever
That's a steal
Damn Tustin Microcenter had it sold out, so I went with the 13700k bundle cuz I still want some productivity work. I was only in LA for like a few days so yeah.
I got the same deal! But with the intel I7 14700k
Bruh how do they make a profit?
@@DoppEff From other stuff in their store. they sell bundles at a loss in order to try and get you to buy other stuff in their stores. just like costco
You don't always need upgrade options. Sometimes the best option is just a very good PC today and not pray for the future to come.
Right, when I build my pc I'm not changing anything on it for at least 7 years unless something breaks. If these people are worried about sockets changing they're not building good enough pc's to begin with.
This guys have not the PC and want to upgrade it already, don't enjoy his hardware
@@Dodger_Dawg_ I have B650E with R7 7800X3D which is the best gaming CPU on a platform which will most likely support at least two more full CPU generations. Please, explain to me how is my PC "not good enough"
yeh as someone who upgardes every 5/6 years i don't really care about forward compatability unless its like 6 years
Well in your case. This person would say if you get that socket in 6 years all you will need is a new gpu, cpu, and some more ram. Which he is somewhat right.
This depends on the MoBo you get. If you got some cheap mobo with just modern specs. You might be upset to see that it doesn't work as well as a cheap MoBo would be with that same cpu. So you losing performance while pretty much spending more money then you would if you just kept the cpu and gpu that was more compatiable to begin with. There is a reason these parts come out in the same years time frames. They get lazy on software updates all the time or issues happen.
So what I am saying is. Get a high end Mobo if you plan on buying for a cpu socket set. I never plan on buying a pc this way and I don't think any would should either. You do not save money doing this. @@lrexoticgaming5636
Who buys every year a new CPU for real?
Nearly nobody!
RUclipsrs that do pc stuff.
They bait you to spend more that works out for them
it's not about that, upgrading every 4 to 5 years is nice to maintain the performance of your PC.
instead of changing both the CPU and motherboard, you'll only need to change the CPU.
Motherboards aren't worth upgrading that much imo
@@Raven777777777777777that's a very small percentage.
People with money!
Amd just has a lot more to offer whether that's cpus or gpus. I just bought a ryzen 7 2700x for 50 usd, the equivalent of that would be an i7 9700k which on eBay, is going for almost 200 dollars
why such an old shit cpu
@@yungerrrnot shit at all
@@ryeser4864 5 generations behind lol, for a new build that's pretty shit. won't handle anything in 2k or even modern AAA past 60 frames in 1080p medium
@yungerrr still a great deal tho depending on the games he plays, I rocked a r5 2600x and 1660 super for years and it ran everything I threw at it, even if it's medium-high settings. Still enjoyable
@@yungerrr1 why are you such a hater. 2 most new games depend tons more on the gpu. Any x600 amd gpu works great still.
The thing is, when I buy a CPU I dont upgrade it for 5 years. Im still rocking a 9900k. I don't care if the socket will be supported next year.
It'll be a cold day in hell when I abandon my 4690k
I have a 9900k and probably won’t need to upgrade it for another 5 years from now
If u buy a pc today, u dont need to upgrade it for at least 4 years, that means u'll need a new motherboard then. I had a i5-7600k till this december and recently upgraded it to a i9-14900k (changed whole pc). No need to upgrade or change for 8-10 years.
Which graphics are you using?
@@suryanarayandasmohapatra5840 I'd presume high for now but as titles demand more cpu/gpu in the future the quality will decline. He's got a valid point which the user must take into account. I'm making the switch to AMD Ryzen 9 7950x with a AMD RX7900 gre. It's usually more than I would spend but I want to experience high/ultra graphics on my car games/Sims and start using VR and streaming this year
Just switched a week ago from i5 7600k, 1070ti to Ryzen 7 7700x and 7800xt with an NZXT B650e motherboard, 32gb 6000mt DDR5 and the difference is absolutely fucking mind blowing in every single tiny way.
@@CavezOfficial
I am still using Intel Pentium dual core processor with lga755 socket for Ms word
Your set up is very good 💯💯
I still use a 3770K + 1050 Ti in my secondary system and it still runs great for lighter/older games. It also has nvenc which is very helpful for rendering videos.
I have an A320 motherboard from 2018 and I was able to upgrade from R3 2200g to R5 5600. Performance uplift tripled. AM4 is phenomenal.
you were lucky, that only works on about a 3rd of boards
@@nostrum6410 the mobo site says zen 3 is supported with the correct bios.
Being a DDR3 motherboard user, I can confirm I love my AMD A8 and 4gb DDR3 ram! Amd's the catch for me.
Edit: 69 likes!? Leave it guys it's the best number!
Edit -2 : I lost my 69 likes 😭😞
I literally have to use a phone for gaming i dont have a pc or laptop
@@RejectOnYTliterally no one ask
@@RejectOnYT get a pc
I'm a DDR3 too but I have an i7 4790k
@@RejectOnYTget a job
Meanwhile me, with a 3470: if a CPU can last 10 years, and still be alright the 5 year long mobo support is uselss.
4170 o/
3930k overclocked for 8 years now. 👍
I used to have a 3470, upgraded to an i9 13900kf
@@LuPy532 i just upgraded to a 5600x. I have no money for gaming but it works like a charm. Also i feel sorry for you, since you have a CPU with a big manufacturing defect.
If you're going high end and not planning to regularly upgrade it doesn't matter. Either way if you like me only upgrade every 4 or 5 years you'll most likely need a new motherboard by then either way.
Absolutely agree. Also there is a lot of cases when Intel build can be actually way cheaper. What is also cool and saves money - latest Intel CPUs support both DDR4 and DDR5, so if you already had great DDR4 ram I don't see much reasons to go for DDR5
I was using intel for a very long time and decided to switch to AMD this year. I can’t say it has been a smooth ride especially with the burning X3D issues and currently I have crash issue in games because of PBO I assume.
Gaming? 7800X3D, Editing? Productivity? Intel 12-14th gen 🔥
Don't forget gaming as the 14900K/KS crush any gaming benchmark even with admittedly lower FPS than the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The 14900K/KS can do everything with productivity and content creation workloads with ease for a 10th the price of a Threadripper Pro 7000 (Legendary and worth the premium, but out of most peoples price range). The 7800X3D cannot match either in performance without upgrading to the 7950X3D and properly tuning it in Process Lasso.
Intel is as plug and play as it gets. Power efficiency doesn't matter if your platform lacks stability and quality drivers, which AMD is still struggling with compared to Intel, and especially NVIDIA.
@@iLegionaire3755 I really need your opinion if the i7 14700k is good? Or if the i9 14900k is better?
@@Fryem42014900k is obviously better, but it’s marginal and comes at the cost of a lot of extra heat and power draw. I’m building a high end setup and going for a 14700k. It’s essentially the 14900k without the OC
@@Fryem42014900KS is underrated, by FAR IMO the best Intel CPU ever made, 14900K is also 6 GHZ, 5.7 GHZ all core and very excellent, undervolt the hell out of both the 14900K and the 14900KS. Use a Direct to Die solution and you MUST delid the KS, the K you can skip that. Use an EKG Deta TEC 2 custom loop water cooling Full Nickel solution, for stable all core 6 GHZ on the 14900KS. It gets better, 7 GHZ two performance cores, 6.90 GHZ all core is easy, 14900KS does it idling. BEAST.
@@exhermiti needa askk u sum broo
I upgrade my pc every 6+ years at this point so I'm good with my new 14th gen
Thats also a point but you wont get npu faster technology and Microsoft is working at using it also lot of developers like Adobe. Btw Microsoft is also Office and ms word or Excel or other will be cooperating in new tools which they told they will be Amazing revolutionary upgrade. So you cant be sure its good for you
@@Wonsztojad Keep hoping.
@@Wonsztojad why tf you care about npu as long it gets the job done its okay
Big question is, whether the motherboard will hold up?? With the amount of options and cheap motherboards, it’s feasible to replace the motherboard +cpu than upgrading just the processor.
Dont buy a cheap MoBo, and you don't have to switch it. i have upgraded my R5 2600 to a 5800X3D on my old B450 Mainboard. And where do you get cheap mainboards?
Here is the facts, alot of people have jumped on the amd bandwagon and it's kinda annoying. So computers is a big hobby of mine. So to the average user on this platform so you don't feel like you made a bad choice or anything let me help you. Intel and AMD are both great, early days of ryzen I wasn't a fan of much absolutely love ryzen now. The 5600x is hands down my favorite CPU from am4. Before you go and buy your parts or prebuilt you can go either way. You shouldn't need to upgrade your PC for years to come so the whole upgrade path is stupid. My buddy finally upgraded after 8 years and his PC was still working great. So go with Intel or amd and your making a good choice either way
yes its really annoying, I'm looking at used pc parts and found a build with a 5800x thats pretty reasonably priced (nordic country so everything is expensive). If I wanted to swap a 7800x3d or something in after it tanks in price in a couple years I can't do that, getting a 5800x3d is a very small upgrade but one I can't afford right now, and getting on am5 now isn't really viable since mobo and ram prices would eat too much of the budget. And even then by the time I wanted an upgrade am5 would be already old gen and I'd have to think about another cpu upgrade the same way. Kind of infuriating, figured I'll just stop caring about future compatability completely, I made it the past 7 years with a ddr3 mobo, it'll be fine
@@neonoir__ 5800x3d will be good for a long time, by the time that cpu struggles with gaming, am6 will be out or maybe am7. i would skip am5 for you as it your 5800x3d will cruch it for a good long while.
This is true for modern computers. Not true back in 2000-2017. Im talking about Pre-Ryzen and when SLI was a thing. I feel like computer building was alot more complicated back then. Now... majority of new parts... if you are just using it in standard 1080p... can last you for YEARS.
Not to mention amd is STILL making am4 cpus.
Those are still rumors (for now)
@@Jake_EditzYT5500x3d and 5600x3d?
@@eyaadalwazir8229 rumors for now
@@Jake_EditzYT what r u on about. They already a thing
@@PterodactylFN I searched 5500x3d and the first thing that popped up was “5500x3d rumors: what we know so far”
If you can’t buy it and it hasn’t been announced then it’s a rumor
This is great info, literally looking into a PC and was already planning on the 7600.
I'm going to be making the switch from my old 8700k/1080 Ti and I'm wanting to know if the 7800x3d/7900xtx will be good for my gaming and Photo/video editing as well. I cant seem to find to much on it but I always watch you on TikTok and love the content and info
Put simply, AMD has more reasonable prices than Intel for the same performance.
My last AMD would constantly crash on me. And the drivers gave me nothing but head achs.
That's true for AMD is one the best gaming cpu and for Intel is also the best for Productivity and Video Editor as well.
They are both excellent, it only depends on software you use or games you play
I like both of them.
It depends upon how we are thinking like I can spend my all money to buy the best gaming PC then I have to wait 5 years only just to buy a new PC because the PC that I will buy today can support up to after like 5 years and I wouldn't have to upgrade so if I go with inter after 5 years the motherboard will change but in AMD also the motherboard will also change in five years
Major Update: I am now on Team Red and the 7800X3D. I WON’T return to Intel for a VERY long time. My Core i9 14900K overvolted itself to death on finals. AMD it is for me.
LGA 1700 socket users are future-proofed even without a new motherboard for most tasks and workloads due to the utterly insane clock speeds of the 14900K and 14900KS. Seriously with EKG DELTA TEC 2 Custom Loop Water/Liquid Cooling the 14900KS can hit 6.90 on the performance cores and 7 GHZ with efficiency cores disabled. Properly direct to die. CPU properly decided first, you NEED to consider the i9 14900KS! For a dead socket, talk about longevity. EKG DELTA TEC 2 Custom Loop Water/Liquid Cooling is NOT optional for Raptor Lake, it's the ONLY way to game stable at all core 6 GHZ! Without this setup, you MUST undervolt and underclock the Raptor Lake processors for gaming, get the EKG DELTA TEC 2 Custom Loop Water/Liquid Cooling its well worth it, that is my next step Intel or AMD.
For the record I am pro-Intel and AMD, I slightly prefer Intel but plan a second AMD build. Specifically Threadripper PRO within 3 years to 5 years to a decade, so I can make more video games than just play them evenly. And the 7800X3D is still the best gaming CPU around bar none.
Intel needs to seriously copy AMD's love for their customers on AM5 with remarkable long-term socket support.
The Intel Arrow Lake LGA 1851 socket must last as long as AMD's AM5 for Intel to be taken more seriously (supporting at least Panther Lake and Beast Lake), and not keep forcing people to keep buying new motherboards with every new Intel processor.
I just upgraded from an Intel Core i7-8700 to an Intel Core i9-12900KF and the 8700 has been able to play every modern AAA game at 1080p with fps above 100. With that being said your average gamer doesn’t have to upgrade every year if they buy any cpu above an i7.
I have i5-13600K which is a beast of a CPU, along with RX 7800 XT that will last me like 5 years. There's no need to upgrade your CPU every year or two years if you just play games on it and are not some tech youtuber or video editor that needs the newest hardware every year.
Choose Ryzen 4070 its way better
Should I build a gaming/multimedia PC with the Intel i9 15900k and a Nvidia RTX 4080 Super/5080 or the Ryzen 9 9950X and a 4080 Super/5080?
What are some good brands for motherboards for both Intel and AMD CPUs? I have heard ASUS and Gigabyte are not great in terms of quality.
Can I use G.Skills 7200mt RGB 32gb (16x2) XMP 3.0 compatible ram with an AMD CPU and AM5 motherboard?
Me and my homies are still using 3rd and 4th gen Intel CPUs and to be honest we don't feel like we need to upgrade...
So my friends as long as it's working and you don't really need, save your money.
And later on just do it for once
Intel all the way, a bit pricy but worth it
Definitely worth it. Better FPS more reliable
@@carlsonbench1827Yeah… no. AMD outclasses Intel when it comes to gaming.
@@OiOi-Jim cope
@@carlsonbench1827 imagine saying cope when the 7800x3d beats the Intel i9-14900K for gaming, do your research and come back fanboy 😂
@@OiOi-Jimleave him bro hes creating own happiness 😂😂
If you buy a weak processor with an upgrade in mind, I agree, but if you have an i9 13900, you probably won't replace it in two years.
Yes but keep In mind that as 14 gen i7 is still pretty good
But make sure that u have high tdp to support overclocking and newer cpus
"Future proofing" is cool and all. But there is absolutely no reason to upgrade every generation of CPU or GPU. Yes, I know there are things like DLSS 2-3 or AM4 to AM5
But it's just a waste of money.
People out here are still rocking 10 series NVIDIA cards before AMD got good. But even then, if you go for a 30 series or 6000 series GPU, it just depends on what games/programs you'll be running.
As for CPU, Anything with 8 or more cores will Be just fine till games industry learns how to utilize more CPU cores for games, yet there is still people using 13900K for gaming and it's just a big waste of money.
Guarantee 5800x paired with 6700XT will last for 5+ years from now. Things are so different now. Especially if FSR or RSR get better
13900k is for multitasking and workeforce not just gaming !
This dude Stan’s amd graphics cards so I’m a million % sure he’s not reliable in any way, shape, or form to answer this question without an outrageously obvious biased answer
Yeah but by having the latest motherboard/socket, you’re staying super up to date and not using an ancient motherboard. Expense isn’t even really a big deal cause you can just sell old parts.
That is the stupidest advice ever, Who ever builds PC to only last 2 years is just waisting money. Build a PC that will last you 4-8 years like mine. I work in IT, in my life I had 3 personal build PC because the first 2 pc lasted me close to 16 years in total. This year I build my 3 one and will not be surprised it will last another 6+ years.
Only tech channels like this think everyone is upgrading every single time a new socket launches. What happens in reality, is that every release there is a portion of the population that has a 5+ year old PC that's due for an upgrade finally.
Still rocking an i7 3770k vut its nolonger good for games , going to go with 14th gen and have it for 10 years
So can you tell me if I should wait for new gen CPUs or build AMD now? And which setup it should be I'm thinking about 5800x3d . Thanks
@@DRTIK0L Man you need to look in to a couple things first. First look at the type of games you play, are they 2D, 3D, FPS, Open World or Very intence in visual graphics. Then you need to check your monitor what kind of monitor you use, the size doesn;t really matter what matters is if it is 1080, 1440 or 4k. Then you need to decide how long you want your PC to last. If you are building a PC that you are planning to upgrade in like 2 years then fine buy cheap but if you want to have a pc that will last you min. of 4 years with no need to upgrade. Then you must save up or borrow more money. Nvidia no matter how much we all hate them is still the one producing the best GPU out there and in most games Nvidia GPU will run better and will get better fps even if it is a lower eng graphics card. Further more if you buy a really high end CPU like a i7 - 12,13 gen or a i9 - 12, 13 or 14 gen then you know that thing will last you 5 years easily, in my country in most stores the CPU gets 5-6 year warranty. So you can imagine how secure they are (granted remember to change the thermalpaste every 6-12 months) but still. Just always remember the more you spend now the more you will save later.
Good luck
@@DRTIK0L Pretty much any of the AM4 stuff is fine, I recommend anyone avoids first gen AM5 after the whole CPU's burning in the socket though. Yes I know they've had bios updates to address it, I still wouldn't want to buy a generation of CPU that had it happen at all given thats EXTREMELY abnormal in the CPU world. It really scares me to the point that I think it has some rushed product stuff going on behind it. I've never heard of that happening before.
I think , the upcoming years winner will be , where is the operating costs better .
Just a thought, if you upgrade your CPU after let's say 4 years which is actually preatty realistic, there is no way you'll just upgrade. New PCIE, new Ram new whatever will be needed if you want 4k gaming and if you'll go for 1080p you won't have to upgrade until your hardware basicaly dies 😅. So go for what will be more long lasting, without a upgrade, or whatever suites your budged.
Still happy and content with my AM4.. still lots of upgrade path before i max out AM4
That’s only if I want to upgrade and waste money every year. I usually keep a pc for like 7 years(about how long they last before they fail).
Ontop of the futureproofing.. I'm so tired of having to manually disable the stupid efficiency cores via bios in computers I deploy because they wont park properly when colleagues start heavy workload tasks and causes constant BSODs.
AMD+Nvidia people
🤙
For GPUs Nvidia all the way. Had amd before, they were great but not as good as NVIDIA.
CPUs AMD for life
AMD for budget gaming. Intel for everything.
If you are rich, 7800x3D is still the best option for a gaming machine.
@@FieryMeltman Nah
@@MrMin316 It's a fact. The 7800x3D trades blows with the 14900k in gaming, while being much more efficient and cheaper. If you only want to play games, it is objectively the best CPU right now.
@@FieryMeltman The intel cpu is only good in Adobe software thats it.
Adobe get big money from INTEL😂
@@lelouchabrilvelda1794 Well i have built both, AMD and Intel and the one i have now consists of NZXT H6 Flow, Intel i9 13900k, I did have Asus ROG Maximus Hero. But found out that one of the pins were bent, so i enxchange it for a NZXT N7 z790. TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-51200C40 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit - White, NZXT Kraken 360 AIO Cooler , 9 RGB fans and Nvidia RTX 4090 TI and it's best i have built so far. Runs like a dream.
Thank you so much. You gave me exactly the answer I was looking for. I favoured AMD either way☺️
Team Intel
👇
14700K
r7 7800x3d
@@Phan1hs lol that’s team intel ofc
14700K 🩵
Idrk about gaming pcs but wouldn’t it be fine to just get an amd motherboard or something that has more holes so it could fit future intel generations?
Always had AMD but went for the i5 12400f to replace my Ryzen 5 1500x, having DDR4 anyway together with a cheaper motherboard option it was just a no brainer.
I did have upgradabilty in mind but honestly there's nothing I do that this i5 has any problems with.
Hi Zack! I'm going to be building a around 600$ pc rn. I'm going to use am4 with a ryzen 5 3600. Should i wait until march 2024 to get enough money for am5?
Take 1700 socket and be happy.
@@ANARCHY_13 Thanks! Though equivalent specs will be around 80 more expensive. I will consider
totally understand the arguments, but hear me out:
many cpus last at least 6 years of work and good ones last at least 6 years of good performance, so going with some good cpu today (by my conception) is totally fine. just built one with a 13600k and by my gut i feel it'll be strong for the next sockets launch.
also, upgrading a 12th gen to a 14th gen imo is kind of a waste, at least where i live in where cutting edge electronics are way more expensive that they should be, so getting rid of a 3y cpu sounds a bit bad
i would love to discuss this with more people!
Intel is for those people who genuinely don’t give a shit about their money, it tops the board in both performance and greatly tops in price over the years. AMD is for us mortals stuck on the ground.
GPUs are currently working with DDR6, so CPU technology is a lot behind; I think I can fully future proof my PC set by attempting to allow CPU technology to catch up. . .
I dont get the idea of “upgrade path” when i dont know a single person that upgrades cpus less than 5 years. Unless your using really cpu heavy workloads, theres no reason to upgrade every gen.
many people might not upgrade that often but its still nice to have the option on the same socket
Upgrading CPU's in the same socket as a reason to go AMD is just straight bad reasoning. Assuming a 5 year upgrade cycle you will most likely be buying a new MB anyways. But even if you bought a first gen AM4 for instance waited 5 years and then bought another CPU you are still giving up pref on a part of the computer that is one of the less expensive ones.
If you upgrade every 2-3 years you are either well off and don't care and should just buy a current chipset anyways or you did not buy enough CPU when putting together the system if it needs a upgrade so soon.
The AMD vs Intel question comes down to what you are doing with the computer and the budget. X3D is very attractive to Gamers, when it works that is.
I think they said when Ryzen 9000 announcement they are gonna support AM5 until at least 2027
Paying more for futureproofing is most of the time a bad decision. There are some special cases, but for general gaming, If you have a set budget, build the best machine you can afford
Budget aside, what about reliability? Isn’t there a lot of opinion about the quality of AMD? Is that fact or just opinion?
I am an Intel fan boy, but my only regret is that those chips are hotter, and I live in the tropics, the Caribbean to be specific
My custom pc is with Ryzen 5 7500F with RX 6700 XT...never been happier
Looks like my decision are good. Changing my old proccesor I5 10400F to R7 5700X with a AM4 motherboard for AMD.
With a 5700x you need to use a am4 not am5
I have a i7-14700k... It barely gets off idle doing most things, so by the time I need an upgrade, I'll need a whole new computer anyway.
Amd and intel are both great. Never tried amd, probably will never as I'm used to intel, but it's cool to see the support they have for older gen sockets.
I only went with intel because it's what I know, and microcenter really hooked it up with an i7 12700K, 16 gb ram, and a msi mobo for $350.
I got the same deal! Except the aorus mobo
I have never had any issues with all my intel cpu’s over the last 8 years but have had many friends have problems with there amd cpu’s not saying there not reliable just in my personal experience
Yeah to answer is getting easier and easier
i'm genuinely in a bind here, i love amd but it's been hard to choose wheter to change to intel or keep going with amd, i'm trying to decide wheter to upgrade to the amd ryzen 9 (newest one available) or to the intel's i9 (also their newest one).
spec wise intel is little bit ahead of amd however intel is a little bit cheaper so i feel like intel is the clear winner, but then we have as said in the video, longivety, i can still mabey upgrade in about 10 years time back to amd but yeah idk i can't choose one since both are great options.
I'm beginning with i7 4770 so I'll be future proof enough because I don't need really high end pcs
Listining to this after i build my am4 pc
If you want to upgrade… You upgrade at the same time.
Me, an engineer. Over here looking at the intel wattage/voltage issue in the chips and the AMD secure boot leaks while playing w my shiny brand new RISC V chips u can get for 1/13th the cost.
I used to love intel but after what they did with 14th gen,,,,, I hate them so hard that they became hard in irl.
me had a320m with 32g +16gb 2666 still game even newer games like farlight 84 and r5 26 with msi b450m a pro max + 16gb 3200mhz + 1660ti still gaming even tripple AAA title with costum preset
I hear that uograde thing back in 2017 for am4 - still use 1600 non AF.
“Oh damn why’ve they done that”
- a prebuilt purchaser
Do people upgrade only 2 or 3 generations? It wouldn't be a particularly satisfying upgrade.
And for 20% of the price🥰
Fortunately the cpu market is way better than the gpu market right now, best gaming cpu which is the 7800x3d is massively cheaper than the best gaming gpu, and if you want something even cheaper an i5 13600k is way way more than enough nowadays and its only around 300 bucks
You could basically say the same thing like few years ago when the same predicament happend but it was amd and not intel. Also take in the account that threadrippers, basically the best upgrade route for amd is locked behind their own motherboards.
what if im building a mid range pc for ~800$? I was planning on getting the i5 12400f, and there is a very obvious upgrade path from that, up to something like a i9 14900K. But there is no AMD alternative to an i5 12400f that uses the AM5 socket. So is it worth for me to spend an extra 80$ on a cpu, just so its cheaper for me to upgrade in 5 years time? I feel like intel is still a good option, especially if youre building a budget to midrange pc.
Intel always a good option :P Don't listen to AMD fans they are crazy
But there is no AMD alternative to an i5 12400f that uses the AM5 socket
The 7500f exists
@@riven4121 it is 50€ more, that is no alternative
I have a 10 year old pc with an i7-4790, no graphics card, and 16 gb of ddr3 ram. Any upgrade is good, cuz this thing has been a beast, when it still had it's 980 ti 💀 I just recently bought a pc with i7-14700kf, 4070 super and 32 gb of ddr5 ram. So i will be set for a LONG time 😂 Not just for gaming, but for school/work also.
AMD being AMD
Again launching a single SoC but support it for ages unknown. I really love that instead of launching a SoC but only support for a generation or 2. Or roughly 3 if you see LGA 1700
And yet I had the most problem with my hardware over the last 3 years being on an AMD system :S
I JUST bought myself a new system and it's all Inten/Nvidia again. Price/Value might be better on AMD, but stability IS better on Intel/Nvidia.
Didn't know its was your decision to help others pick considering you probably get given all your parts for free just for being a ad lol
I bought a pre built a year or 2 ago as I thought it was a good way to get into PC gaming, which it is, it has an i7-12700f and that’s fine for me considering I am not really focused on getting the best components out there and I still have 2 gens of intel CPUs to go
chipsets are important.
try buying the first model of the AM4 board for example, ram in the newest AM4 CPU to see how well it handles. it doesn't. socket is just 50% of how compatible the cpu is with the motherboard , what you just said is for everyone to get the first gen AM5 boards that will maybe only support couple of CPUs until they start to build cpus that won't be compatible with the 1st gen chipset. i know people who got an "LGA 1200" motherboard for their 11th gen intel and it didn't work, why? Chipset.
I'd always go with AMD of there wasn't the availability issues here
A 7700x (the cheapest one I could find) is almost the same price as a 14600k and a 7600x is more expensive than that 💀 (how???) A 7500f is around the same price as 5700g... Wtf is a 7500x? Never seen it
I really dont see who is upgrading their PC anymore. I mean same mother board with newer CPU. The wise choice is allocating right amount of money within my budget so I dont feel the necessity of upgrading it later. If I don't feel I can allocate just right, I'm better off putting that money for some other use than PC building.
Crazy to think am4 still relevant to this day.AMD releasing new cpu's for am4 this year
Intel is playing checkers while AMD is playing chess. 🗿
Well I would hope so, considering am4 is still going strong
ryzen 7 7800x 3d is actually awesome
Still using an OLD 6th gen i7. It suits my needs just fine but I’m definitely going AmD when I build my 2025. System
Bro is the ceo of AMD
I’m good my last tower lasted me 10 years, really doesn’t matter.
AMD has less "friction" when it comes to upgrading your PC thanks to longer support for its CPU sockets. Pretty neat incumbent advantage to have.
I wish Intel good luck. Admittedly my most likely upgrade will be a Ryzen 9000 series 3DX chip.
im currently using ryzen 5 3600 and am about to sell it tommorow and i was planning on going intel i5 12400f
With micro center bundles it’s better to upgrade the whole platform 😄
intel 12th gen actually packed the biggest punch and still does today . Specially the i5 12600k which is less than the ryzen 7 5800x3d but better ( in my country ) .