A very different but somehow similar film I would recommend is 2008s Splinter. Great practical creature design, legitimately scary film, and highly inspired by Carpenter
Great review, Iain and Gary have the perfect balance together but I must admit Jess has been a great stand- in, hopefully we see more of him once everything is back to normal and the OG’s are back together. OTSR 🤙🤙
Is Jess ok? He looks really tired & ill, with that dark shadowing round his eyes, whilst the rest of his face is so pale… I'm genuinely worried about him… Jess, please be safe, try to get enough sleep, and don't be too stressed about Covid ❤️ We want to see you back for some future reviews! ❤️
I loved this film and sometimes not knowning what's going on is better - avoids being let down by some crap over the top reveal lol. I agree it has a Carpenter and Lovecraft feel with a dash of Event Horizon......but I notice the ending when our two heroes are in the Void and the way they look round and hold each others hands i'm sure it is almost identical to the ending of Lucio Fulci "The Beyond" it was the first thing that popped into my head a feeling I'd seen this before.
Thanks boys, I've been needing more cosmetic horror in my life. Even if it's not Lovecraft. Lots of lovecraft references in this one, Carter as in Randolph Carter for one.
No recognisable actors? What about "Knives" from Scott Pilgrim vs the World? Also, Jess is a great addition, so another vote to keep him more involved when Ian is back :)
YES. So glad you covered this awesome film, and all the trials involved in its creation. I contributed to the crowdfunding campaign, and all I got was an excellent body horror film and a cool promotional t-shirt. Cheers to you for another quality review!
The monster looks GREAT! It's always amazing to see practical effects of a monster in horror films! Hell, even if the movie is bad, I have to praise the team for at least trying to bring the creature to life with their own hands than shitty CGI! Too bad horror films don't do this shit no more. Sad. Well, anyway this film does look promising, I'll be sure to see it! Great review you guys!
Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski are members of Astron-6, the film group who made classics like Father’s Day, The Editor and the Divorced Dad series. If you haven’t seen their short films like Chowboys or Cool Guys you need to ASAP. Those guys are amazing, twisted geniuses.
I love cosmic horror. The Void takes cues from Hellraiser and the story is basically Prince of Darkness but it's not a ripoff. The Void is one the best of the subgenre.
I loved this movie, the practical effects were amazing and the ending of the movie just makes you want to see more in this universe. Also I would love to see you guys review the movie The Ritual, think you guys would love that movie and review it greatly.
@Darek Baid Ive got used to Jess very fast, but I still get thrown out just at the very start😄 New intro suggestion.... Welcome to Off The Shelf Reviews, im Gary....And im not Iain 😂😂👊
Артёмка Крылатый probably just a mess with this covid stuff. He was in the last episode or so. So at least we know he isn’t sick. Even he was it’s about 3.9% fatality rate so he’d most likely recover
I think it's because these two are too reasonable with each other. Iain tends to be more enthused and animated. His opinions and perceptions are often way different than Gary's. Gary's face when Iain says something Gary thinks is wrong is hilarious. The dynamic is all screwed up, is all. Jess is perfectly fine as a reviewer, but he drastically alters the dynamic. Sorry Jess.
I have the same thought about the special effects people, no matter how good, in the directors chair, mentioned by Gary, about the concept of the Director's Cut. It is used as a synonym for something else, yes, a longer version you can't show in theaters, that may lack in rhythm but is for people who saw the movie anyway. Director's Cut just sounds like letting your plumber make your taxes...
Awesome ! Have been watching you guys for years now and I must say I‘m really REALLY digging this latest series of Lovecraftian reviews. Keep up the good work sirs. Also this Movie is awesome
If looking for a good horror film might I suggest Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust...yes it's the second film but the two are hardly (maybe not even) connected outside of the main character...also Bloodlust is MASSIVELY superior.
Evan Stern? 😮 I know it's been a while since I've seen this movie but I totally didn't realize that was him. He is Rold one of the Skids on Letterkenny.
I just watched this movie...and it's really, really good. Will own it for sure. ... however, I wished they had started going somewhere right after the first incidents in the hospital. Because then the movie stops and we have to wait until it continues. But just because of what they accomplished the movie is worth it. And yes, I found all those references you mentioned. PS I, for one, welcome the Hellraiser remake. Just because that will mean the franchise will move on. ... wouldn't do a straight remake, as the original story is simple and the 80s movie is perfect as it is. I'd focus on a story that will tell the story of the Puzzle Box (BLOODLINES... but better) and through flashbacks show what happened in the first movie.
By the way, there's this Spanish movie divided into two from the early 2000's called THE LEGACY OF VALDEMAR/LA HERENCIA DE VALDEMAR that you should see. It has also to do with Lovecraft.
Please review Gojira (1954), Anaconda, Jeepers Creepers, King Kong 1976, and the Phantasm sequels if it would be possible to review those with the whole Universal stuff
11:21 What about Lucio Fulci's 'The Beyond' (aka 'Seven Doors of Death')? What about 'From Beyond' with Jeffrey Combs? 12:14 Check out that monitor right there. Looks more '90s than '80s. 12:57 That's not the right kind of firearm for this particular situation. It's like Mike says in Phantasm 2: "Long guns are no good, Rej. If it's gonna work, it's gotta work up close." That's what inspires Reggie to make his famous double-double shotgun. Technically, he would have been better off with an ordinary pump-action. Anyway, I guess we're meant to assume that a scoped bolt-action rifle was all that guy had available, but given the rural setting, I find that hard to believe. Unless it takes place in Canada. But in Canada, civilians can own short-barrel shotguns, and that would be the perfect tool for this task. I'd hazard an educated guess that they went with a bolt-action rifle because it hearkens back to the first two Silent Hill games. But why the scope? Iron sights are what you need here. A scope would just cut off your peripheral vision. That's why safari rifles were configured the way they were (iron sights, no scope). 16:57 Always with the fumbling! Why do people in these movies always do that?! Even characters who don't have an excuse for it like Captain Rhodes from the original 'Day of the Dead'. An Army captain wouldn't do that. Even a private wouldn't do that! It doesn't add dramatic tension. It just makes the characters look stupid. 22:10 Lovecraftian, not Machiavellian. There's definitely a Re-Animator influence going on there. 27:30 Probably an homage to John Carpenters 'Prince of Darkness'. 27:41 / 28:17 Probably an homage to Lucio Fulci's 'The Beyond' (aka 'Seven Doors of Death'). "And you will face the sea of darkness...and all therein that may be explored." 32:17 Rural cops in the US were still using revolvers in the '80s, so this might be set in the early '90s. Have you any of yuz played Dusk? 35:48 Silent Hill meets 'In the Mouth of Madness'. 36:32 The style is '80s, but the in-world evidence points to it being set in the '90s. If it's set in the '80s, then it's definitely the late '80s - like 1988 or '89. 38:50 Load the chamber first, greenhorn! A cop should know how to chamber-load. Consider also how much of an impractical pain it is to grasp a flashlight while trying to work a "trombone gun!" Would have been better to "MacGyver" a flashlight mount of some sort so he could just strap that flashlight onto his shotgun the way Charlton Heston does with his Smith & Wesson M76 in 'The Omega Man'.
*Addendum:* Manborg is definitely an homage to Charles Band's proto-Full Moon movies from the Empire Pictures era. The name "Manborg," itself, is a direct homage to "John Doe the Mandroid" (who was also referenced in Trancers, another proto-Full Moon movie from the Empire Pictures era).
I really enjoyed this movie very much. Fantastic practical F/X, to hell with CGI. This is the most John Carpenter movie that he was not involved with ever. Nothing like an homage to old school classic 80s horror /sci-fi extravaganza... Bring it on! As always, enjoyed the reviews perhaps beginning of a three-man team round table… Great possibilities.
I saw this gem when it first came out an seeing this review has made me want to watch it again, I feel as tho i missed alot, I remember being quite disappointed with the ending but overall a very bizarre an intriguing movie, bring on Color out of space review! 😉
This movie was wild. I dont expect much from low budget movies, but there was a great set up and tight storyline for the first 45 minutes. Then it all just kinda dissolved into something weak.
I loved this cosmic masterpiece. I am gutted Iain was not part of the review. However....jess has the same nerd AF badassery that Gary and Iain have so I'm excited to see a three piece :)
I appreciated the use of practical effects in this movie, instead of endless CGI. It went batshit crazy towards the end, but been honest I wasent a huge fan of the void, even with a second viewing.
A good film that involved FX guys writing and directing a movie would by the sci-fi movie 'Skyline', Directed by Colin Strause, Greg Strause (they're brothers).
A Black Pyramid... Wasn't one of Nyarlathotep's many forms called the Black Pharoah? Suddenly, this movie makes sense. Its just Lovecraft's favorite cosmic trickster messing with mortals again :) 'Farewell, Randolph Carter, and beware; for I am Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos' (The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath)
or the tomb of Horus (Doctor Who Pyramids on Mars) lol Ironically there was also a Cult called the Cult of the Black Pyramid (they rejected Sutekh to follow Horus) in a Short story.
Interesting, I just saw that this movie existed a week ago, I have to watch it before I watch this. But I of course instant thumbed up the review! Stay strong my popculture-brothers!
@Chris McRoy Absolutely. Jess was great. I was just expecting Greg and Iian so I was thrown for a bit of a loop at first lol. That was just my initial reaction lol. But still a great video. Love Ian though.
Never ceases to amaze me how people think it’s so easy to “kneecap” or “leg shot” someone instead of shooting center mass in a time of threatened death or bodily harm. Even for the most skilled of shooter, leg shot is a very bad and difficult target (not to mention risky) for one to make. Nor do people think of or know human anatomy enough to know about the most fragile overlooked part of the leg - the femoral artery; where if ruptured/damaged/stabbed/shot there, one dies in 40 seconds. So, death either way.
I was let down by this flick. I’m always inspired by first time filmmakers and I appreciate what these guys were going for and how they went about it, but I can only call it how I sees it and I found it lacking with its storytelling
I was so disappointed with this film it was so average and predictable. I love Lovecraft but this was more Clive Barker without the skillful writing and story structure.
Miss the dynamic with Ian. Jess isn't bad, just the dynamic is missing attitude, it's not irreverent, it''s not "fun" - I would say the reviews are now... academic, pedantic, serious. Kinda like a film class with a serious instructor. Well, the Critical Drinker is knocking it out of the park lately, so, there's always him for the attitude, irreverence and fun.
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Without a doubt the most underrated film reviews on RUclips👌🏽👌🏽
A very different but somehow similar film I would recommend is 2008s Splinter. Great practical creature design, legitimately scary film, and highly inspired by Carpenter
Great review, Iain and Gary have the perfect balance together but I must admit Jess has been a great stand- in, hopefully we see more of him once everything is back to normal and the OG’s are back together. OTSR 🤙🤙
Awesome Gary, your presentation skills have come a long way. Jess is a very nice guy too glad you got him on
Cheers PazyPlayz, that means a lot to us
As a fan of Lovecraft and 80's horror movies. I loved this movie!
Imagine if they could have gotten Jeffrey Combs!
I of course miss Iain, but I'm very much enjoying Jess's reviews. Those are big shoes to fill, and he's filling them well. 🙂👍
Is Jess ok? He looks really tired & ill, with that dark shadowing round his eyes, whilst the rest of his face is so pale… I'm genuinely worried about him… Jess, please be safe, try to get enough sleep, and don't be too stressed about Covid ❤️ We want to see you back for some future reviews! ❤️
I loved this film and sometimes not knowning what's going on is better - avoids being let down by some crap over the top reveal lol. I agree it has a Carpenter and Lovecraft feel with a dash of Event Horizon......but I notice the ending when our two heroes are in the Void and the way they look round and hold each others hands i'm sure it is almost identical to the ending of Lucio Fulci "The Beyond" it was the first thing that popped into my head a feeling I'd seen this before.
Thanks boys, I've been needing more cosmetic horror in my life. Even if it's not Lovecraft. Lots of lovecraft references in this one, Carter as in Randolph Carter for one.
No recognisable actors? What about "Knives" from Scott Pilgrim vs the World?
Also, Jess is a great addition, so another vote to keep him more involved when Ian is back :)
Ellen Wong is also on Netflix's "GLOW".
I know who she is since it's been pointed out to me, but I wouldn't of guessed that.
YES. So glad you covered this awesome film, and all the trials involved in its creation. I contributed to the crowdfunding campaign, and all I got was an excellent body horror film and a cool promotional t-shirt. Cheers to you for another quality review!
I love this movie,such a great throwback to 80's body horror.
The monster looks GREAT! It's always amazing to see practical effects of a monster in horror films! Hell, even if the movie is bad, I have to praise the team for at least trying to bring the creature to life with their own hands than shitty CGI! Too bad horror films don't do this shit no more. Sad. Well, anyway this film does look promising, I'll be sure to see it! Great review you guys!
Awesome review! Would def like to see more of Jess in the future, the guy knows his shit 👍🏽
Nice review! I can't wait for Ian's return, and Jess makes a fine addition.
Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski are members of Astron-6, the film group who made classics like Father’s Day, The Editor and the Divorced Dad series. If you haven’t seen their short films like Chowboys or Cool Guys you need to ASAP. Those guys are amazing, twisted geniuses.
I love cosmic horror. The Void takes cues from Hellraiser and the story is basically Prince of Darkness but it's not a ripoff. The Void is one the best of the subgenre.
You should do John Carpenter's Elvis & of course Escape From New York/L.A. as you have already done The Thing & Big Trouble In Little China 😎
I loved this movie, the practical effects were amazing and the ending of the movie just makes you want to see more in this universe. Also I would love to see you guys review the movie The Ritual, think you guys would love that movie and review it greatly.
That final scene made me think of Lucio Fulci's The Beyond, which seems to have a lot of common with this film too.
I said that exact thing when I saw the ending too. It is spot on The Beyond, and I loved it
Snap it's almost identical
This review made my day! Thank you so much for yet an amazing review guys
Why does the lack of Ian still throw me off?
What happened to him?
@@xArtremiix
The same thing thats happened to the rest of the world...
Covid-19 isolation
@Darek Baid
Ive got used to Jess very fast, but I still get thrown out just at the very start😄
New intro suggestion....
Welcome to Off The Shelf Reviews, im Gary....And im not Iain 😂😂👊
Артёмка Крылатый probably just a mess with this covid stuff. He was in the last episode or so. So at least we know he isn’t sick. Even he was it’s about 3.9% fatality rate so he’d most likely recover
I think it's because these two are too reasonable with each other. Iain tends to be more enthused and animated. His opinions and perceptions are often way different than Gary's. Gary's face when Iain says something Gary thinks is wrong is hilarious. The dynamic is all screwed up, is all. Jess is perfectly fine as a reviewer, but he drastically alters the dynamic. Sorry Jess.
I have the same thought about the special effects people, no matter how good, in the directors chair, mentioned by Gary, about the concept of the Director's Cut.
It is used as a synonym for something else, yes, a longer version you can't show in theaters, that may lack in rhythm but is for people who saw the movie anyway.
Director's Cut just sounds like letting your plumber make your taxes...
I first heard of this movie from another reviewer called the Maniacal Cinephile and despite its limitations and flaws, he praised it.
Awesome ! Have been watching you guys for years now and I must say I‘m really REALLY digging this latest series of Lovecraftian reviews. Keep up the good work sirs. Also this Movie is awesome
wow , i tought gary and ian couldent be apart and do a great review . but jess is just as good as ian ! u 3 guys are the best !
If looking for a good horror film might I suggest Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust...yes it's the second film but the two are hardly (maybe not even) connected outside of the main character...also Bloodlust is MASSIVELY superior.
Great film. I didn't know about the trouble this film went through! Off The Shelf reviews always making superb content. Hope you're all safe and well.
Gary you bastard, I was just ready to turn in!!
You guys should be a trio from now on!
Evan Stern? 😮 I know it's been a while since I've seen this movie but I totally didn't realize that was him. He is Rold one of the Skids on Letterkenny.
glad to see you gary and friends review all hp lovecraft films as deusdaecon reviews has done them all
I just watched this movie...and it's really, really good. Will own it for sure.
... however, I wished they had started going somewhere right after the first incidents in the hospital. Because then the movie stops and we have to wait until it continues. But just because of what they accomplished the movie is worth it.
And yes, I found all those references you mentioned.
PS
I, for one, welcome the Hellraiser remake. Just because that will mean the franchise will move on.
... wouldn't do a straight remake, as the original story is simple and the 80s movie is perfect as it is. I'd focus on a story that will tell the story of the Puzzle Box (BLOODLINES... but better) and through flashbacks show what happened in the first movie.
By the way, there's this Spanish movie divided into two from the early 2000's called THE LEGACY OF VALDEMAR/LA HERENCIA DE VALDEMAR that you should see. It has also to do with Lovecraft.
Please review Gojira (1954), Anaconda, Jeepers Creepers, King Kong 1976, and the Phantasm sequels if it would be possible to review those with the whole Universal stuff
11:21 What about Lucio Fulci's 'The Beyond' (aka 'Seven Doors of Death')? What about 'From Beyond' with Jeffrey Combs?
12:14 Check out that monitor right there. Looks more '90s than '80s.
12:57 That's not the right kind of firearm for this particular situation. It's like Mike says in Phantasm 2: "Long guns are no good, Rej. If it's gonna work, it's gotta work up close." That's what inspires Reggie to make his famous double-double shotgun. Technically, he would have been better off with an ordinary pump-action. Anyway, I guess we're meant to assume that a scoped bolt-action rifle was all that guy had available, but given the rural setting, I find that hard to believe. Unless it takes place in Canada. But in Canada, civilians can own short-barrel shotguns, and that would be the perfect tool for this task. I'd hazard an educated guess that they went with a bolt-action rifle because it hearkens back to the first two Silent Hill games. But why the scope? Iron sights are what you need here. A scope would just cut off your peripheral vision. That's why safari rifles were configured the way they were (iron sights, no scope).
16:57 Always with the fumbling! Why do people in these movies always do that?! Even characters who don't have an excuse for it like Captain Rhodes from the original 'Day of the Dead'. An Army captain wouldn't do that. Even a private wouldn't do that! It doesn't add dramatic tension. It just makes the characters look stupid.
22:10 Lovecraftian, not Machiavellian. There's definitely a Re-Animator influence going on there.
27:30 Probably an homage to John Carpenters 'Prince of Darkness'.
27:41 / 28:17 Probably an homage to Lucio Fulci's 'The Beyond' (aka 'Seven Doors of Death'). "And you will face the sea of darkness...and all therein that may be explored."
32:17 Rural cops in the US were still using revolvers in the '80s, so this might be set in the early '90s. Have you any of yuz played Dusk?
35:48 Silent Hill meets 'In the Mouth of Madness'.
36:32 The style is '80s, but the in-world evidence points to it being set in the '90s. If it's set in the '80s, then it's definitely the late '80s - like 1988 or '89.
38:50 Load the chamber first, greenhorn! A cop should know how to chamber-load. Consider also how much of an impractical pain it is to grasp a flashlight while trying to work a "trombone gun!" Would have been better to "MacGyver" a flashlight mount of some sort so he could just strap that flashlight onto his shotgun the way Charlton Heston does with his Smith & Wesson M76 in 'The Omega Man'.
*Addendum:* Manborg is definitely an homage to Charles Band's proto-Full Moon movies from the Empire Pictures era. The name "Manborg," itself, is a direct homage to "John Doe the Mandroid" (who was also referenced in Trancers, another proto-Full Moon movie from the Empire Pictures era).
I really enjoyed this movie very much. Fantastic practical F/X, to hell with CGI. This is the most John Carpenter movie that he was not involved with ever. Nothing like an homage to old school classic 80s horror /sci-fi extravaganza... Bring it on! As always, enjoyed the reviews perhaps beginning of a three-man team round table… Great possibilities.
So... Father , Son and the dead wife as the Holy Ghost?
Good indie horror flick that I watched back in 2016, I need to give it a re-watch.
I saw this gem when it first came out an seeing this review has made me want to watch it again, I feel as tho i missed alot, I remember being quite disappointed with the ending but overall a very bizarre an intriguing movie, bring on Color out of space review! 😉
Yeah, these kind of movies are hard to end too, imo at least
This movie was wild. I dont expect much from low budget movies, but there was a great set up and tight storyline for the first 45 minutes. Then it all just kinda dissolved into something weak.
I loved this cosmic masterpiece. I am gutted Iain was not part of the review. However....jess has the same nerd AF badassery that Gary and Iain have so I'm excited to see a three piece :)
I appreciated the use of practical effects in this movie, instead of endless CGI. It went batshit crazy towards the end, but been honest I wasent a huge fan of the void, even with a second viewing.
Thank you for uploading, i'm watching right now!
You have to review shocker by wes craven underrated horror comedy
A good film that involved FX guys writing and directing a movie would by the sci-fi movie 'Skyline', Directed by Colin Strause, Greg Strause (they're brothers).
Those are the guys who directed Alien Vs Predator: Requiem. Yikes.
29:05 this part could also be a nod to The Beyond
I saw Lustmord in the credits; is that the Noise artist?
A Black Pyramid... Wasn't one of Nyarlathotep's many forms called the Black Pharoah? Suddenly, this movie makes sense. Its just Lovecraft's favorite cosmic trickster messing with mortals again :)
'Farewell, Randolph Carter, and beware; for I am Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos' (The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath)
or the tomb of Horus (Doctor Who Pyramids on Mars) lol Ironically there was also a Cult called the Cult of the Black Pyramid (they rejected Sutekh to follow Horus) in a Short story.
@@marky437 Neat :)
Ok, but what are they gonna do for food & shelter, in that dark universe?!
You guys should review the sixth sense
'I see Dead people
And I'm Gary... '
Amazing review fellas!!
Thank you for the review
Loved this movie, watched it on Netflix.
Interesting, I just saw that this movie existed a week ago, I have to watch it before I watch this. But I of course instant thumbed up the review! Stay strong my popculture-brothers!
I hate to quote Conor McGregor, but, "Who da fook is dat guy?"
Lol no offense, it just threw me for a loop, haha.
@Chris McRoy Absolutely. Jess was great. I was just expecting Greg and Iian so I was thrown for a bit of a loop at first lol. That was just my initial reaction lol.
But still a great video. Love Ian though.
Gary, my bad, I've had a few lol
I wonder how long I have been subscribed
Never ceases to amaze me how people think it’s so easy to “kneecap” or “leg shot” someone instead of shooting center mass in a time of threatened death or bodily harm. Even for the most skilled of shooter, leg shot is a very bad and difficult target (not to mention risky) for one to make. Nor do people think of or know human anatomy enough to know about the most fragile overlooked part of the leg - the femoral artery; where if ruptured/damaged/stabbed/shot there, one dies in 40 seconds. So, death either way.
You can't avoid The Void
love it!! hope all is well.
On a side note, I am probably the only one excited about Villeneuve's Dune remake.
Not in the slightest, a lot of us out there eagerly awaiting!
The intro music sounded like Metro 2033
I was let down by this flick. I’m always inspired by first time filmmakers and I appreciate what these guys were going for and how they went about it, but I can only call it how I sees it and I found it lacking with its storytelling
Two Dislikes!!?🤬
That's got to be from Jack & Jill🤔
Where is Ian ?
OTSR 🤙
Gary, did you replace Iain?
Oh man, I was sooooo close to first comment 😜
thanks for keeping Thursdays great guys! 👊
It's that pesky necronomicon again.
I liked this movie
This movie was fucking awesome and everything that movies today pussy out from being.
Hi - where is Iain?
I enjoyed this movie .
Would have laughed my ass off if you played this off as iain inhabiting another body.
Another film directed by a special effects wiz that turned out bad, “Eragon”.
best worst knock off of Star Wars a new hope!
Great creatures....
Is Ian okay?
Corona maybe?
We’re in lockdown so Iain can’t join the reviews, Gary and jez are housemates
@@binnybros aight, cool. I was worried for abit. Stay safe boys.
where is Ian thought he would love to be here for this awesome movie...
He's in self isolation because of Covid-19.
Where's the other guy? In the void ?
Jess looks a lot like beetlejuice
Please review Jeepers Creepers.
What the hell's a V O I D ! ?
Ask Google!
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I was so disappointed with this film it was so average and predictable. I love Lovecraft but this was more Clive Barker without the skillful writing and story structure.
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Miss the dynamic with Ian. Jess isn't bad, just the dynamic is missing attitude, it's not irreverent, it''s not "fun" - I would say the reviews are now... academic, pedantic, serious.
Kinda like a film class with a serious instructor.
Well, the Critical Drinker is knocking it out of the park lately, so, there's always him for the attitude, irreverence and fun.