as expected for new Tesla models, the early adopter tesla tax, tons of people waiting in lline for a plaid, used ones 30k north the original price at this point. So, yea, take it or leave it.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl exactly. Don’t like it? Don’t buy it. Quit bad mouthing. Social media. Worst thing ever. If you just ask they will fix it. Our trunk wouldn’t auto close. Lol. Misaligned. So what. Who cares. Guess what. Had an ML350. Same problem!! Fender liner? Who cares. Tail lamps. Let them replace it. The mark on the camera was probably from the lot. Want a perfect paint job? Buy a Porsche. And you will still complain. I promise.
For people who are adament in defending Tesla for this very common issue, across all of their models: you cannot use the excuse of them being a 'young' company. Also, considering (in the UK), this car is over £100,000, this is just not acceptable.
@@balloonb0y677 you are missing the point, the point is that Tesla should do a better job with their QA/QS. I own a brand new Model Y Performance in case if you think I'm anti-Tesla.
@@balloonb0y677 Tesla has a policy in which they deliver cars to you if you live very close to them. They DO NOT give you an option to pick up your vehicle if you live like let's say 20 miles away.
The only reason it’s £100k+ is because of the PERFORMANCE upgrades, there is no cosmetic upgrades, therefore, it’s technically only a £60k car, or a $70k car
Keep in mind, if you’re dropping around $130k grand for a car, you’d expect the best quality for that price. I love Tesla, but they need to step up their quality control game.
@@hamavery6476 $45k gets you a loaded Honda Accord. Unfortunately and sadly $130k doesn’t get you much today. Hell, a base PORSCHE Carrera is almost $100k.
Tesla knows they can get away with this, because there are so many people enamored with the brand that they'll just let it go. The Tesla devotion is somewhat cult-like.
@@simply6162 Apple does NOT make best quality products. $7000 for Mac Studio? or $17,000 for Mac Pro? A similar PC costs half as much. Or *one* *quarter* as much. Remember defective keyboard on Macbook Pro, for YEARS? Remember many instances of OS X and iOS problems?
I’ve bought a 2015 Skoda Fabia at the end of 2015 I swear on my mother’s life that this Czechia-built VW Polo-based car that has to travel through 4 countries on a train and ending up in the UK was totally and absolutely perfect in every way possible. No panel gaps, no paint blisters, no chips, scratches of scrapes. Totally perfect.
Me being a Tesla supporter/investor makes me disappointed in Tesla quality. Pretty upsetting since this is a 130k+ car with 2000s quality. Hopefully with the new factories coming online soon the quality and focus can get better. I believe Tesla poor quality comes from the fact that they’re rushing production in their main California factory and losing track of quality control. Shame
Leadership cares about innovation but not so much on quality builds. It makes me sad as well but I’m ok with it because it is not a safety hazard and they can fix some of them. My long range Model S didn’t have much wrong with it. I was lucky
As a Tesla owner/investor, I never considered my P90DL to be "a $130K car", even though that's what some new ones cost. I considered it to be a typical $30K car with a $100K powertrain/electronics upgrade. The latter concerns me more than the former, since the former will get covered with bugs and dirt the first time I drive it down the road. So I tend to focus more on the joys and less on the flaws. It's easier to be happy that way.
You squeak by refusing delivery. This will all be deemed in spec. The only way to stop this sort of Musking is to stop buying this garbage until they fix their quality and service.
@@user-gq2vn1xj2r facts, but the investors will continue in promoting Tesla 24/7, plus attacking people on Social Media for speaking out on the countless issues.
Wow, I recently picked up my plaid, and I would have refused delivery and sued for my money back if my car had all of those issues. It had none of the issues you highlighted and was darn near perfect. The only issue on mine was the frunk was slightly more panel gap on passenger side than on the driver side. I adjusted that one myself, as I had BMW fix a similar issue on a new E92 M3 and they made it worse in the other direction, so I went and aligned it myself. Good luck in getting these things resolved.
I’m sorry dude! I can tell how angry you are, and you have every right to be. After spending your hard earned money on their product, this should not be the end result.
Tesla will openly fix any issues you mention at time of delivery/first-drive. This is a moot issue. The RUclipsr failed to carry out the solution and now he can complain about it.
I've detailed some Teslas. Gruesome. No reason for cars these days to have a quality "standard" as low as Teslas. And they aren't even that much cheaper anymore. A Plaid vs an etron GT? Hm. Whole different world in quality.
I have as well. Tesla’s are a joke. I’m a pro detailer- was cleaning the rear window and it popped out of its socket. Putting hardly any pressure. Also when rinsing the car with a HOSE, water got in the taillight. Absolute nightmare.
‘not to mention I found literal dribbles in the paint. Never have seen that on 1000s of cars in my career, not on corollas or kias, but on two seperate tesla’s I have found dribbles. The quality is abhorrent
This goes to show that building a car is exponentially different from knowing how to build a car well. Tesla needs to study the subject of LEXUS in school & pass a few exams.
its unacceptable for you to spend all that money, custom order the exact car you want, and have it arrive in such poor shape. not sure why this video has so many dislikes, as its showcasing an issue that tesla has had since day one thats still not fixed.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips Total rubbish. Go and buy something better offering 2% higher quality, for the same money and that performance.....ohh that's right, there is no other choice available.
@@L2HfT a Porsche 911 4s. Granted it doesn’t have the straight line speed, but it certainly corners a lot better than a model s. It also has GREATLY BETTER quality
When Tesla started building cars in a tent, all their reputations went down the toilet. It showed that they were more interested in pushing cars out the door than building them right.
@@GuentherVanRaven bollocks,they rushed cars out the door, to meet stock market delivery targets,in order for Elon to get his ramped up share awards ....open your eyes, man ....
@@GuentherVanRaven Sit down stan. When I can buy a tesla for under 5k then it's affordable; also they have the same battery tech as literally everyone else that makes EV's. They are not leading shit.
According to Doug, the paint quality is the worst of any new car he has ever reviewed. It was already peeling off the mirror handles. I guess a ceramic coating and PPF is a mandatory thing immediately after purchase.
Overall we love our new Model S (non Plaid), but in our experience anyone who somehow says the build quality has improved is in total denial. Our car was much worse than this. We found 5 places where there was no paint at all! Tesla needs to hire some laid off engineers from GM and Ford who can show Tesla how to run a body shop. Tesla now has enough $ to hire them instead of continuing to use amateurs. And we found lots of fit and finish issues in the interior too, and then there was the water leak around the windshield that they thankfully fixed correctly on the 3rd try. Very troubled by the excuses presented here by the Tesla Fanboys and stockholders. We should all be pressing Elon to resolve this and make the company even better, not trying to sweep these issues under the rug. But what's most troubling is the Tesla employees at the dealers trying to fix these things. They seem to be trained as well as the factory workers in Fremont.
I bought a 2020 GMC Sierra Denali ($70k) and there were major issues with it and the entire computer system had to be replaced. Quality control should happen before delivery. Some of these issues could be address. They just need anal people that care about every minor detail
@@BrianBokor78 With all due respect I don't think it helps to try to justify Tesla's shortcomings by pointing out issues folks are having with non-Tesla cars. There's no brand that's perfect and you can always find someone who has had major problems with any brand, even if it's Lexus or Porsche. And with today's technology there's just no excuse for the widespread assembly quality issues we Tesla owners are seeing. The last time we saw assembly quality issues this bad was Chrysler back in the 70's and 80's. Even Yugo did not have assembly quality issues like this; Yugo's larger issue was the poor quality of the parts. We need to pressure Elon to fix the problem. It can be done. There's nothing unique about Tesla that prevents it. We are not talking about largely handbuilt cars like McLaren. Very unusual to hear about a Tesla owner having issues with a motor or other powertrain component. With the production tech available today there's no reason the assembly quality can't also be world class. They now have the cash to achieve this, and it's time it was fixed and we stopped giving them a pass.
@@shark2232 oh I agree and I have a Tesla. I think they can and should do better. My last Tesla was much worse than my new one. I do think we should pressure him but not sure he is the right leader to care about this :(
@@BrianBokor78 You might be right, but I think Elon is as competitive as they come, obviously takes pride in what he has achieved, and I think he does listen. He certainly listened to Sandy Munro's criticisms.
@@shark2232 mate,he takes pride in hitting the stock delivery targets which enabled his billion dollar stock ramp ...this is all a symptom of that.sorry to break it to you.
@@outsider9288 yeah, but the reason they have such high tariffs on cars particularly is because they prefer to protect their own car industry, which produces objectively better cars to begin with
I have heard that same model car will have worse quality if shipped to US compared to if its going to be sold in Europe, this might only be true for european cars sold in US.
I'm amazed at the shit Telsa customers tolerate. Take a price comparable model from its competition and the fit and finish is exceptional inside and out. Last year we bought a Mercedes that sold for about $150k and it was spotless. It was washed, waxed and ceramic coated. If I saw these defects on our car, I would have walked out and the sales rep would have lost their job. And lord help you if the car has issues that require a mechanic to fix. A friend of mine with Tesla's has had to get a lawyer involved to get a repair made. Telsa just prints money and no one says a word.
@@Nicolas0403 Hell no to Germany. They are great at making good feeling stuff, but the quality is bad! It does not last. My Volkswagen Golf, new from 2019 creaks and rattles from all places. It totally sucks man. Now I drive a Toyota Corolla Hybrid hatchback and it's perfect. No rattles, no weird noises. No creaks when opening & closing the door. The Golf, the door handle from the inside even gets pulled when you open the door. It's so cheap. Looks expensive, feels expensive, but is cheap.
I just bought a $48,00 BMW X3 and I went over it with a magnifying glass, absolutely zero issues. I also bought a new Civic type R and zero issues. And finally I bought a new Toyota Prius prime with Zero issues. I ordered a new Tesla and went to a delivery center and found small issues with several cars there. Nothing unresolvable but they got a ways to go before they will reach initial build quality of most vehicle manufacturers.
Tesla quality is a running joke at this point (I work for another OEM), we've fired people for much less than this stuff. To have quality control, you need a quality department first; this is some atrocious shit lol
I don't think we will see improvement in Fremont build quality until their Texas factory is up and running. Also Model S not being a high priority does not help. At least the European Tesla owners don't have to worry about piss poor build quality, as their cars are now from the Shanghai factory.
@@rickkay9548 Ehh not idiots, but most likely overworked. I have a lot of respect for them to be able to manufacture cars in California, its not easy lol. Texas Model Y should help take load of Fremont.
Fremont got exposed for bad management. Some poor guy got bullied at work and was called the N word with swastikas drawn everywhere. Dude sued the company because management didnt help him out. I think Tesla should take the Toyota route and go anti union.
There was a video of an expert in build quality telling Elon that he thinks their build quality is on par with a 90’s Kia. After owning both a 2019 Model 3 Performance and a 2021 Model S Plaid I can comfortably say that statement was being generous .....build quality is that bad
@@cali-2-nz617 I own several different makes of cars and no car is perfect. If you want reliability and build quality you buy something like a Lexus, but then you give up a great driving experience in something at the other end of the spectrum like a Mclaren for example..... point is there isn’t a car that does everything great and although Tesla’s have some great points their build quality is extremely poor. At this point I don’t see myself buying another one but it won’t be because I care that the panel fitment or paint quality isn’t high enough
@@donn.4766 I owned one Don, it was gorgeous to look at, build quality was flawless, and sounded great but that was about it. The car was VERY heavy and not at all what I would call an engaging drivers car, just a cruiser. Acceleration was underwhelming but the reason why I traded out of it so soon was the super frustrating infotainment/touch pad that literally required pulling over to scroll through even the simplest commands. A close friend of mine(who is also a real car enthusiast) ended up buying the convertible version and had the exact same feelings about the car as I did.
I picked up my Plaid 3 days ago, got lucky as there wasn't too many imperfections but it definitely could have been built better. These issues are very real. The paint booth they use must be in a parking lot or something, the dust in the paint is unacceptable. But I was expecting worse based on what others have experienced. I would say the build quality is one step below McLaren.
I’m really happy to hear from people that actually know what they’re talking about :) It’s not unreasonable to expect decent quality when we are dishing out a significant amount of money. You’re right on the paint. And I had no idea about McLaren. Luckily that’s never been on my radar :)
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips "It’s not unreasonable to expect decent quality when we are dishing out a significant amount of money" Sort of. When people paid 300k for a Aston Martin, it wasn't for it's build quality. It sucked and it never really improved. The rest of the car was fantastic though. Price isn't really a factor on it's own. For the Plaid, you are paying for the fastest car on the road with some of the most advanced tech...in that regard it delivers. We all know Tesla quality isn't the best, they have only been building cars a decade. It's not great but it's good enough. No car is PERFECT and I think it's unreasonable to expect a company that has only been building cars for 10 years, to make something that's better in EVERY way compared to companies that have been building them for 100 years, there is always compromises. For Tesla owner's it's accepting the paint is thin and a few bit's might not be perfectly aligned. Seems fair
@@stinger15au there are Chinese EV makers who are mass producing cars right now and still don't have these issues. These Chinese TV makers are also newer. The whole excuse about only being a decade-old does not hold water anymore. I would still buy a plaid though.
@@B4R0N. ooo but they do have issues. It's just not spread 24/7 by the media. There is 100,000 ICE fires in cars a day, they don't get a mention, one tesla has a accident causing a fire and it's front page news. Tesla isn't perfect but it's just ignorant to think they are not unfairly targeted by the media and have been for years.
This video is not off the lot, and you can tell the car has been driven likely for at least a week (based on seeing he’s had wrap installed on the fenders). It’s very possible some of these occurred after delivery. Not an excuse, but just calling it out. This guy could’ve showed the mileage on the car if he wanted to prove it truly is brand new, but didn’t. That being said, I do want Tesla to make sure quality is excellent before delivery
So it's better to buy a Porsche taycsn for almost 2x with much less range speed and features? The thing is it's sad that they sometimes have this quality but it's by far the best. But these things will be soon a problem of the past it'd getting better and better every year.
@@jankoln4727 it might be the fastest and most technological car on the market for the price. But it's over 100K, I'd expect better build quality than that on ANY brand new car. Even if it cost less than 10K.
@@thirdiii171 It's people like you are the reason why Tesla can get away with this. The car is great but if I'm paying that much for a luxury car, I expect it to have no chips or random scratches.
My dad was a perfectionist. Like this guy. They all have inferiority complexes and they LOOOVE complaining to show what discerning and superb standards they have in life. I loathed it. See what that car looks like in a year, my friend. You want that kind of perfection, go buy a Pagani. Those of you who know this high standard individual; what's life like having him around? Tesla, you're not excused. But we understand how difficult it is to produce goods to that level of perfection in order to keep everybody happy. My question to the client is: in your area of expertise, should you be subjected to the same level of criticism, will you come off smelling like roses or a Venus Fly Trap?
Valid points on some of those panels where it looks like dents, the wheel well area, etc. Have a MS on order and hoping for better but gotta be prepared to decline as well. Issues is you now in many cases submit final payment before being able to get inside the car. Tesla is a bit ridiculous in the fact that you have to purchase it fully and accept it before being able to see everything your accepting.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips you know the issue with tesla is that people like you pay a lot of money and then they accept a rubbish product. if all of you would have refused lower quality products it wouldn't make sense for them to do that. But it does. It is literally the only thing driving the quality of the products down. People spending loads of money on anything with no regards of the quality. I don't mind you complaining but at the same time you are ruining the market for the rest of us. The manufacturer would rather sell something cheap to someone who has money and throws them away than sell something of value to someone who appreciates it.
@@a1machinista1 There are sub 30K vehicles with better fit and finish than the issues exhibited in this Tesla. Quite a lot, actually. Take a look at the fender liner of a Toyota Camry, tap it and see if it flaps around like in this video. Obviously a boring Camry would have much worse fit and finish than expensive Model S Plaid, right?? Have higher standards for more expensive, more 'premium' vehicles.
Seems like that's mostly finish and not build quality. One disadvantage of not having normal dealers. A traditional dealer would have done some prep work before hand to make it look good. Then fixed the 2 imperfections that were still noticeable if a customer complained.
I bought a Tesla model 3 performance and a Toyota Prius prime in the same month a few months ago.... The service and quality care that I got from Tesla was way better than those assholes at Toyota.... The lack of having piranhas lurking around a dealer lot looking to front load of deal with stuff you don't need far trumps the seamless process when acquiring a car from Tesla
Certainly all the little paint issues and scratches to the lights could be addressed in their auto shop with some touch up paint and polishing. And maybe the fender liner would quickly get addressed. I'm not saying they'd fix everything, but could make it presentable.
Agreed. Mine had a misaligned rear hatch, misaligned drivers door, two chips on the drivers door edge where it was obviously opened into something, weird chemical etch looking stain on the glass top that nothing has taken off, drivers seat back adjustment knob stopped working within the first 500 miles, factory paint is paper thin. You even have the reflection of rocks in it and it’ll chip.
I've never had time to study a Model S up close as no one I know has one. My neighbor has two Model 3s though and a couple friends have one too. There doesn't seem to be any difference in how a $40K Tesla is built from a $130K Tesla because everything mentioned here is true of every Model 3 I've seen. I have a 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia and you can run your finger over every seam, take a magnifying glass to the paint, rub your palm over the leather, check the wheel arches, the bolts holding the airflow undertray, the intercooler plumbing, the turbocharger heat shield, the clips covering the engine cover screws, EVERYTHING is of quality better than any GM or Ford product. That Giulia is built 10 times better than a Model 3. Which means it is built 10 times better than this Model S as well. The people who buy Tesla's are not prioritizing their build quality and Musk knows this, which is why he never does anything about it. He doesn't have to...
I have a 2011 Gullietta and while it has of course suffered a bit over the years I can confirm that the build quality is much better than what Tesla puts out today, especially when you consider the price.
You bring up a funny point. The F40 was known to have particularly awful fit and finish with horrible panel gaps. Also the greatest super car ever made. Superior engineering will always trump superior fit and finish.
Had a couple of small issues with our Tesla when we picked it up. I spoke to the manager about it and they scheduled to fix it 3 weeks later. All little issues were fixed. Also, you didn't have to take it right? When we bought ours, we had a 7 day window to return it and also had the option of not taking delivery at all. What did they say to you for when they can fix the issues?
They said schedule a service appointment. It is on October 4th. I will update with results. They did say I don’t have to take it. But they also said I may have to wait month before another came.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips If it's any consolation, I had more issues with the quality on our Land Rover when I picked it up. It had paint swirls, panel gaps, and scuffed leather seats in the back. A month later, the heater kept blowing fuses and they had to replace parts for that as well. From my experience, Tesla did a much better job fixing delivery issues than Land Rover did. It took Land Rover 4 months to iron out all the issues.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips hopefully it works out. We bought a new highlander last week and it had hella issues, especially with the leather and the paint. Dad paid $250 to get it fixed up at the dealership. i think its the way with most cars nowadays cus of covid. Im guessing tho, could be wrong.
@@ronin7645 you’re comparing Tesla to the shittiest of the shit cars on the market… it’s an insult, try to compare it to Lexus, or Toyota for that matter. We bought a Crown RoyalSaloon back in 2006 with all the most advanced tech for its time, and nothing is broken after 15 years, car still looks brand new
Its obviously never going to be a porsche, or any german car for that matter. Thats what hits the hardest, the quality control must be better. Cars need to roll a little slower of the production line
These may seem nitpicky issues to some people. Having owned a P85D for over 6 years, I wish I had made a bigger deal about it at delivery. These are the areas where a lot of long term issues arise. I took my car in to get similar issues fixed when they got worse and Tesla never really fixed them to a satisfactory degree. They have always bothered me and left a bad taste. When you pay well over 125k for a car these things should not be acceptable. I love Tesla and right now they are the best out there for EV's but we are well beyond the point where these issues should have been resolved.
well as long as you and other like you don't give a shit about their money and are ready to throw it away on a poor product you are only going to encourage this practice. Uneducated consumerism is what ruins the market for the rest of us. As long as you spend loads of money on crap products what do you expect? Tesla saying hmm we make to much money whit shit cars let's make better ones? hahaha
@@abimbolaaku2709 125k is far from chump change it’s more than the average household income in the us. I mean if you go out and spend 20k on a civic and it’s in better condition than something 5 times the price you gotta see the problem
That's ridiculous, and this is a car company that supposed to have more money that the rest of the car brands. But people just get excited when see a big screen inside this cars that forget what quality really is. I can't believe that this cost more than $100k and having this issues.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips $130k is a lot of money. If you have so much money to spend on a car, buy something good. Such issues aren't acceptable, even for a $13k car. Have you seen EQS in real life? The difference is like night and day compared to Tesla.
@@blaise3711 But the plaid would smoke the eqs and the etron gt thats the "night and day you forgot to mention" vs these small scratches that seem to be from after they made the car in transint it looks like.
@@ToniEzero The difference in acceleration is less than 2 seconds. No sane person cares about that. All these cars are very fast. But if you look at all the other things, it's like night and day. Tesla build quality has been atrocious since day one. That was more than 10 years ago. And they're charging $130k+ for it. Insane.
Wow my 10 yo BMW has les less damages than this new car, this is insane, i never would have known it was this bad before i saw this video, this is a damn new cars you expect it to be perfect
i have a tesla myself and can agree that these cars are just put together really fast and not taken into detail. not only on mine but several others i’ve seen on the streets have completely unmatched panel lining to the point where it just looks like you put another panel from another car on it. The windows have gaps from the rear window and the blinker lights on the side wiggle if put with enough pressure. Also the frunk is very hard to close as it feels like it shouldn’t be that tight. other than that tho amazing car
Actually a Lexus from the 90’s is far and away superior quality to this build and it is triple the cost. A Honda Accord would have less issues. These cars have all the hallmarks of “over worked pissed off” American assemblers. Some auto workers would let defects through to stick it to the man when being asked for more production etc…
Love Tesla for its tech but I decided to go with the entry Taycan with some options added. It comes out to 90k but I will be happier with it for sure. I would not be able to look at these imperfections everyday without going mental.
@@nunyanunya6398 These are defects that are easy to spot on their last quality control checkpoint. If Tesla's professionals couldn't detect these easy to spot defects, how can we be sure that they do top works on more substantial aka expensive parts of their product, such as batteries, electric motors, suspensions, etc which usually are located in the harder to spot area of the car. This sort of things certainly give less confidence to their potential customers to switch to Tesla.
@@757entrepreneur yeah.. We do what we can. And even if i can still get a detailer to fix it, they’re still mad after. Even when the car is 10/10. A lot of then just have this act..
@@SpiritJellyfish1 I hear you man. I worked in service for 9 years but the quality didn't improve a whole lot. You do get some customers that are ridiculous but some people just have high standards that Tesla can't keep up with unless we do a few thousand dollars worth of rectification work.
Did you believe that's his car the car didn't unlock the door for him and he didn't show us the interior defects clearly not his car he is just a hater
Or he can take it back to tesla within 72hrs and have them fix any discrepancies he has with the car. Who are you to tell this man what he should or should not spend his money on. Why are you taking it so personal that he is pointing out discrepancies with his $150k+ "product"?
This video is a nice response to those who question why some people buy the Porsche Taycan insted of the Tesla Model S. Germans simply have a better eye for quality, fit & finish.
Yes, I could say the same for Corvettes, yet as long as customers overlook the bad quality, GM will keep pumping them out that way. I think Tesla's motto is the same: As long as the car performs well, quality is secondary.
@@davepaturno4290 Japanese quality is amazing. I don't believe there is any American company that competes quality wise with the Japanese. Don't get me wrong..I love most all makes. I have a 700Hp Procharged 2017 Camaro SS and a Ford F150. I have driven mostly every Tesla except Plaid Model. Done thousands of miles on Tesla's. GM quality is far better.
I just got mine yesterday. I also have a couple issues like super obvious scratches and clear coat issues. I hope all your problems get resolved soon brotha!
At first I thought it was a "Karen" video. But you definitely have the right to complain. Mine just had a misaligned door handle (which they fixed in a few days) a few missing shelves, which they delivered as well as the tow hook. The fender liner is not great. Overall though its easy to forget it once driving. The paint issues would've been a deal breaker for me. My 3P already had issues at 150 miles with chipping. The plaid hasn't thus far.
Man, I'm so sorry. :( What a disappointment. I'm a Tesla fanboi, but I'm also very quick to point out problems, as I want Tesla to succeed. As such, they need to be called out for problems so that they can fix them. There is just no reason for a $130k+ car to be delivered with sub-standard fit and finish. Tesla has a serious initial quality and customer service problem. Elon needs to fix both. Fast. They may be the only game in town at this price/performance level right now, but the other players aren't going to leave that market to Tesla. And when they come, Tesla's quality and customer service had better be up to scratch by then. I got lucky with my Model 3 Performance... It had two minor paint flaws that were both in areas that were difficult to see. I've loved the car for over two years now. I have a Plaid on order, and it's going to have to look better than that on delivery day. Did you refuse the car or accept it? Let us know how it goes?
Yes please inspect carefully. And I love Tesla. But it is an abusive relationship. My X has had problems and now this. It’s not so much the issues, but the Go F Yourself attitude that Tesla regularly gives me. I accepted it because they threatened me that I would have to be out back in line for a car, and it could take months.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips There's something to be said about buying a new car off of a dealership's lot. You know exactly what you're getting, before you pay for it.
So why do people love Tesla then? If other options existed in the market they’d be toast. I don’t see them surviving if EV takes off and everyone starts making them if this is the best they can do
@@ultrazls1 I think this here will be the key. Once we see other electric cars that can compete with the Tesla in terms of range and performance, they might not survive if they keep doing like this. They’re running on borrowed time.
If you do not return it to Tesla, they will never learn. Forget performance, if you do not return it, you will be forever dissatisfied. If that is your decision, live with it.
Their build quality is far from perfect. Is it good… ugh I’d say it’s “ok” but any car company that you inspect like this guy is doing at delivery, you 100% find errors. I work for a dealership and this happens all the time. All brands. Good news is, the company will fix it. Bad news is, once it’s all fixed and you drive up the road, then somebody rear ends you or t-bones… that’s when you realize, sh!t… it’s just a car LOL
Not if you're asking over 100k for it. My dad's corolla has better build quality than this even if you inspect it this close. My dad's 1993 corolla btw.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Corolla has been being built for much longer. Tesla is still very new. They do fix this as well. It’s no issue just bring it in, you get a free rental and it doesn’t take long for fixing. I work for Toyota their new cars still have plenty of issues like this. We fix them
Some of the scratches most likely from loading and unloading off the transport truck. But after you get everything corrected give it a couple months before you start having a bunch of dings all over the place from jealous inconsiderate morons parking next to you.
Happened yesterday there was at the grocery. I was walking back to the parking lot and I noticed this driver who was getting ready to leave conveniently open the door to hit the Porsche parked in the next space. You can tell driver did it on purpose too. And people wonder why people with nice cars generally park at the empty side of a parking lot.
You call the ENTIRE build quality trash? There were 1mil opportunities for errors in build quality. You found 4 of them. Now you make a blanket statement that “build quality” is trash?
if you wanted a quality built Vehicle should had gotten yourself a Avalon, you knew Tesla was known for this its like buying a land rover just enjoy the experience
Your points are well taken. The Tesla fan boys are the true haters. I am scheduled to pick up a model S next month. Good luck with getting this stuff repaired.
@@lachlanB323 depending on where you are located good luck getting scheduled in promptly for repairs and it may take multiple appts as well some "within spec" denials after the fact. Had some issues back when I got the 3 in 2019 so can't imagine it has gotten better with time due to aggressive sales/manufacturing growth that is not matched by servicing/support. Besides that, it's just a bad experience for the price. Finally, given that Tesla primarily relies on word of mouth advertising if you don't count Technoking and his meme factory it's not a good look.
To a certain degree.... Going quick in a straight line is the only degree..... This car literally destroys every other car from factory that has ever been made in the quarter mile (except the Rimac Nevera) Nobody tracks their daily and if you do you're either brave or a complete idiot. Nordschleife times are a completely pointless measurement in the real world and it destroys road cars and how they ride (ty James May)
@@teej5619 Doing street races in a 1000hp car is brave as well if you think about that. Since any M5, GT63S and stuff handles waaaaay better than this car, this car literally just offers nothing except straight line performance and tons of useless gimmicks like a Yoke steering wheel. Its the same car just always a tad faster on straight lines over and over and over again.
This is straight up unacceptable. Especially for a car that costs 100k+
I hope the interior has decent enough quality. And it seems like we're discussing cheap 5k cars
You guys are dragging it at this point
as expected for new Tesla models, the early adopter tesla tax, tons of people waiting in lline for a plaid, used ones 30k north the original price at this point. So, yea, take it or leave it.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl exactly. Don’t like it? Don’t buy it. Quit bad mouthing. Social media. Worst thing ever. If you just ask they will fix it. Our trunk wouldn’t auto close. Lol. Misaligned. So what. Who cares. Guess what. Had an ML350. Same problem!! Fender liner? Who cares. Tail lamps. Let them replace it. The mark on the camera was probably from the lot. Want a perfect paint job? Buy a Porsche. And you will still complain. I promise.
its still faster than anything else. makes it worth the money
Definitely built on a Friday.
Imagine a Monday Tesla.
No these are caused by careless delivery shipments.
Every car they build basically
@@AwesomeBlackDude no they just have no quality control
No, it is a Tesla. We say in Europe, worst car in the world.
Tesla is no car builder.
It's great from 10 feet away.
Same thing I said to myself about all the girls I ever dated.
HAHA
Savage.
Haha
😂😂😂😂
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For people who are adament in defending Tesla for this very common issue, across all of their models: you cannot use the excuse of them being a 'young' company. Also, considering (in the UK), this car is over £100,000, this is just not acceptable.
@@balloonb0y677 you are missing the point, the point is that Tesla should do a better job with their QA/QS. I own a brand new Model Y Performance in case if you think I'm anti-Tesla.
@@balloonb0y677 you shouldn't see scratches on any new car regardless of distance.
@@balloonb0y677 Tesla has a policy in which they deliver cars to you if you live very close to them. They DO NOT give you an option to pick up your vehicle if you live like let's say 20 miles away.
@@balloonb0y677 grow up
The only reason it’s £100k+ is because of the PERFORMANCE upgrades, there is no cosmetic upgrades, therefore, it’s technically only a £60k car, or a $70k car
Keep in mind, if you’re dropping around $130k grand for a car, you’d expect the best quality for that price. I love Tesla, but they need to step up their quality control game.
Tesla controls their customer instead of the customer controlling them.
Well yeah. I expect flipping spotless quality for something that’s $1,000. For 130k it better make me immortal. 😂
@@hamavery6476 $45k gets you a loaded Honda Accord. Unfortunately and sadly $130k doesn’t get you much today. Hell, a base PORSCHE Carrera is almost $100k.
With Tesla performance versions you're really just paying for speed at that point. The motors and batteries are what raise the price
@@zenyachty8999 yep. My take is….don’t like the build quality? Don’t buy it and shut up.
I would never accept a “new car” like that. That is just deplorable. I would never buy a Tesla based on what I saw in this video.
There are lots of good reasons to buy.
Lol
By all means, the wait-list is long enough as it is
It’s okay I’ll buy one
@@georgeholloway3981 this clearly is not one. the build quality is bad and you can not deny it
Tesla knows they can get away with this, because there are so many people enamored with the brand that they'll just let it go. The Tesla devotion is somewhat cult-like.
Agreed.
Comparable only to Apple.
@@felipehernandez-pedroza8288 The point is that apple actually make best quality products and live up to its name can’t say the same to Tesla .
@@simply6162 Apple does NOT make best quality products. $7000 for Mac Studio? or $17,000 for Mac Pro? A similar PC costs half as much. Or *one* *quarter* as much.
Remember defective keyboard on Macbook Pro, for YEARS? Remember many instances of OS X and iOS problems?
Same with Apple
I’ve bought a 2015 Skoda Fabia at the end of 2015 I swear on my mother’s life that this Czechia-built VW Polo-based car that has to travel through 4 countries on a train and ending up in the UK was totally and absolutely perfect in every way possible. No panel gaps, no paint blisters, no chips, scratches of scrapes. Totally perfect.
LOL
Except that it's still not a Tesla. :)
@@TBolt1 Rather have genital warts than a Tesla.
@@fortitudevalance8424 lol 😂
@@fortitudevalance8424 hahahahah nice one :DD
Me being a Tesla supporter/investor makes me disappointed in Tesla quality. Pretty upsetting since this is a 130k+ car with 2000s quality. Hopefully with the new factories coming online soon the quality and focus can get better. I believe Tesla poor quality comes from the fact that they’re rushing production in their main California factory and losing track of quality control. Shame
I hope they continue to improve as well. Especially since I, too, am an investor.
Leadership cares about innovation but not so much on quality builds. It makes me sad as well but I’m ok with it because it is not a safety hazard and they can fix some of them. My long range Model S didn’t have much wrong with it. I was lucky
I’m not sure if it’s because they’re in so much demand or what but hope they get that fix
This is certainly not 2000's quality. It's honestly not even bad
As a Tesla owner/investor, I never considered my P90DL to be "a $130K car", even though that's what some new ones cost. I considered it to be a typical $30K car with a $100K powertrain/electronics upgrade. The latter concerns me more than the former, since the former will get covered with bugs and dirt the first time I drive it down the road. So I tend to focus more on the joys and less on the flaws. It's easier to be happy that way.
Build quality is important, squeaky wheel gets the grease, keep squeakin!!!;)
Definitely will do my friend. Stay tuned. I’ll post a follow up to show how they address the issues.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips any updates?
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips Good luck with that. Be especially careful to watch out for new issues they create trying to fix existing problems.
You squeak by refusing delivery. This will all be deemed in spec. The only way to stop this sort of Musking is to stop buying this garbage until they fix their quality and service.
@@user-gq2vn1xj2r facts, but the investors will continue in promoting Tesla 24/7, plus attacking people on Social Media for speaking out on the countless issues.
Imagine if a BMW, Mercedes or Porsche came out of the factory like that....
The whole factory would be laid off and replaced at Porsche.
Wow, I recently picked up my plaid, and I would have refused delivery and sued for my money back if my car had all of those issues. It had none of the issues you highlighted and was darn near perfect. The only issue on mine was the frunk was slightly more panel gap on passenger side than on the driver side. I adjusted that one myself, as I had BMW fix a similar issue on a new E92 M3 and they made it worse in the other direction, so I went and aligned it myself.
Good luck in getting these things resolved.
How do you align a panel?
@@robertjusic9097 you ask Tesla to fix it and they will
@Matt P which ev do you recommend?
@@Baker.Matthew VOLVO
@@Baker.Matthew yeah in 3 months time, because they have to sort other crap quality issues
I’m sorry dude! I can tell how angry you are, and you have every right to be. After spending your hard earned money on their product, this should not be the end result.
He didn't have to take it, but he did.
Tesla knew he would, so there you go.
Tesla will openly fix any issues you mention at time of delivery/first-drive. This is a moot issue. The RUclipsr failed to carry out the solution and now he can complain about it.
I can’t imagine spending that much much and having so many issues. Not only that the quality on some of those parts look absolutely horrific. 🤣
I've detailed some Teslas. Gruesome. No reason for cars these days to have a quality "standard" as low as Teslas. And they aren't even that much cheaper anymore. A Plaid vs an etron GT? Hm. Whole different world in quality.
I have as well. Tesla’s are a joke. I’m a pro detailer- was cleaning the rear window and it popped out of its socket. Putting hardly any pressure. Also when rinsing the car with a HOSE, water got in the taillight. Absolute nightmare.
‘not to mention I found literal dribbles in the paint. Never have seen that on 1000s of cars in my career, not on corollas or kias, but on two seperate tesla’s I have found dribbles. The quality is abhorrent
This goes to show that building a car is exponentially different from knowing how to build a car well. Tesla needs to study the subject of LEXUS in school & pass a few exams.
"its great from 10ft away" XD
its unacceptable for you to spend all that money, custom order the exact car you want, and have it arrive in such poor shape. not sure why this video has so many dislikes, as its showcasing an issue that tesla has had since day one thats still not fixed.
Thank you for making sense!
Because many fear the impact such perpetual complaints will have on their stock holdings.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips Total rubbish. Go and buy something better offering 2% higher quality, for the same money and that performance.....ohh that's right, there is no other choice available.
@@L2HfT a Porsche 911 4s. Granted it doesn’t have the straight line speed, but it certainly corners a lot better than a model s. It also has GREATLY BETTER quality
Because fundamentally that isn't the case
When Tesla started building cars in a tent, all their reputations went down the toilet. It showed that they were more interested in pushing cars out the door than building them right.
Not easy being market leading in battery technology and affordability, they set high goals.
@@GuentherVanRaven bollocks,they rushed cars out the door, to meet stock market delivery targets,in order for Elon to get his ramped up share awards ....open your eyes, man ....
@@GuentherVanRaven Are they though?
@@GuentherVanRaven Sit down stan. When I can buy a tesla for under 5k then it's affordable; also they have the same battery tech as literally everyone else that makes EV's. They are not leading shit.
According to Doug, the paint quality is the worst of any new car he has ever reviewed. It was already peeling off the mirror handles. I guess a ceramic coating and PPF is a mandatory thing immediately after purchase.
Not true at all.
Ceramic this, PPF that. Just enjoy the car. Jeez.
@@ICEV enjoy these nuts bozo
@@ICEV haha i found u again. Tesla fanboy. Stop defending something that isn’t even worth it.
@@ICEV what a f'ing fanboy
Overall we love our new Model S (non Plaid), but in our experience anyone who somehow says the build quality has improved is in total denial. Our car was much worse than this. We found 5 places where there was no paint at all! Tesla needs to hire some laid off engineers from GM and Ford who can show Tesla how to run a body shop. Tesla now has enough $ to hire them instead of continuing to use amateurs. And we found lots of fit and finish issues in the interior too, and then there was the water leak around the windshield that they thankfully fixed correctly on the 3rd try.
Very troubled by the excuses presented here by the Tesla Fanboys and stockholders. We should all be pressing Elon to resolve this and make the company even better, not trying to sweep these issues under the rug.
But what's most troubling is the Tesla employees at the dealers trying to fix these things. They seem to be trained as well as the factory workers in Fremont.
I bought a 2020 GMC Sierra Denali ($70k) and there were major issues with it and the entire computer system had to be replaced. Quality control should happen before delivery. Some of these issues could be address. They just need anal people that care about every minor detail
@@BrianBokor78 With all due respect I don't think it helps to try to justify Tesla's shortcomings by pointing out issues folks are having with non-Tesla cars. There's no brand that's perfect and you can always find someone who has had major problems with any brand, even if it's Lexus or Porsche. And with today's technology there's just no excuse for the widespread assembly quality issues we Tesla owners are seeing. The last time we saw assembly quality issues this bad was Chrysler back in the 70's and 80's. Even Yugo did not have assembly quality issues like this; Yugo's larger issue was the poor quality of the parts. We need to pressure Elon to fix the problem. It can be done. There's nothing unique about Tesla that prevents it. We are not talking about largely handbuilt cars like McLaren. Very unusual to hear about a Tesla owner having issues with a motor or other powertrain component. With the production tech available today there's no reason the assembly quality can't also be world class. They now have the cash to achieve this, and it's time it was fixed and we stopped giving them a pass.
@@shark2232 oh I agree and I have a Tesla. I think they can and should do better. My last Tesla was much worse than my new one. I do think we should pressure him but not sure he is the right leader to care about this :(
@@BrianBokor78 You might be right, but I think Elon is as competitive as they come, obviously takes pride in what he has achieved, and I think he does listen. He certainly listened to Sandy Munro's criticisms.
@@shark2232 mate,he takes pride in hitting the stock delivery targets which enabled his billion dollar stock ramp ...this is all a symptom of that.sorry to break it to you.
Imagine being surprised by this.
imagine being in denial about this
@@shellderp pointless comment
@@hubertle85639 almost as pointless as your comment!
@@stewartciesla8142 ratio
@@stewartciesla8142 almost as pointless as you're pointless comment to his pointless comment to that pointless comment
And we wonder why Japan and Germany don’t import our cars
you really think germany isnt full of teslas?
@@Mythix2 No it's not. I see one maybe once or twice a week. And I live in Stuttgart.
Japan has very high tariffs on our cars, no one can afford them! Trump tried to fix that.
@@outsider9288 yeah, but the reason they have such high tariffs on cars particularly is because they prefer to protect their own car industry, which produces objectively better cars to begin with
@@Mythix2 I KNOW it's not.
Congrats on your $131K+ EV purchase. Even Elon said overseas Gigafactory got much better build quality than Tesla Fremont Factory
That's American production for you
@ムクᴹᵘᵏᵘ⁴² 🏳️⚧️ nope, Musky starts treating workers here terrible as well.
So? Is it really going to matter when you are 6 feet under? Enjoy life.
I have heard that same model car will have worse quality if shipped to US compared to if its going to be sold in Europe, this might only be true for european cars sold in US.
@@mrd799 why would they build it better if people are already buying it the way it is?
I'm amazed at the shit Telsa customers tolerate. Take a price comparable model from its competition and the fit and finish is exceptional inside and out. Last year we bought a Mercedes that sold for about $150k and it was spotless. It was washed, waxed and ceramic coated. If I saw these defects on our car, I would have walked out and the sales rep would have lost their job. And lord help you if the car has issues that require a mechanic to fix. A friend of mine with Tesla's has had to get a lawyer involved to get a repair made. Telsa just prints money and no one says a word.
Tesla should just build one enormous factory in Japan and have all the cars made there. Quality problems solved.
Giga Japan
Or in Italy
@@DonkNinja more germany
@@Nicolas0403 no doubts about that
@@Nicolas0403 Hell no to Germany. They are great at making good feeling stuff, but the quality is bad! It does not last. My Volkswagen Golf, new from 2019 creaks and rattles from all places. It totally sucks man. Now I drive a Toyota Corolla Hybrid hatchback and it's perfect. No rattles, no weird noises. No creaks when opening & closing the door. The Golf, the door handle from the inside even gets pulled when you open the door. It's so cheap. Looks expensive, feels expensive, but is cheap.
I just bought a $48,00 BMW X3 and I went over it with a magnifying glass, absolutely zero issues. I also bought a new Civic type R and zero issues. And finally I bought a new Toyota Prius prime with Zero issues. I ordered a new Tesla and went to a delivery center and found small issues with several cars there. Nothing unresolvable but they got a ways to go before they will reach initial build quality of most vehicle manufacturers.
I’m jealous of your Prius at this point :)
It's funny how people think building cars is easy. Every brand mentioned was lousy (possibly trash) at some point in their history.
Tesla quality is a running joke at this point (I work for another OEM), we've fired people for much less than this stuff. To have quality control, you need a quality department first; this is some atrocious shit lol
They're all about going fast. Seems like they forgot to be good too
🤦♀️ this says everything about you already. Buying Tesla to complain about it and dreaming about Prius.....absurd.
They will never care until ALL customers refuse this type of crap.
I don't think we will see improvement in Fremont build quality until their Texas factory is up and running. Also Model S not being a high priority does not help. At least the European Tesla owners don't have to worry about piss poor build quality, as their cars are now from the Shanghai factory.
this is exactly right. Fremont has too many idiots working there. Texas will show em how it's done
@@rickkay9548 Ehh not idiots, but most likely overworked. I have a lot of respect for them to be able to manufacture cars in California, its not easy lol. Texas Model Y should help take load of Fremont.
Thats true mine is from Shanghai and the quality is very good…,m3p
Fremont got exposed for bad management. Some poor guy got bullied at work and was called the N word with swastikas drawn everywhere. Dude sued the company because management didnt help him out.
I think Tesla should take the Toyota route and go anti union.
Is the European Model S Plaid also made in Shanghai?
There was a video of an expert in build quality telling Elon that he thinks their build quality is on par with a 90’s Kia. After owning both a 2019 Model 3 Performance and a 2021 Model S Plaid I can comfortably say that statement was being generous .....build quality is that bad
😂🤣 Oh well.
I can see why you bought the first one, but not the second one after your first experience. A little to be watching this review.
@@cali-2-nz617 I own several different makes of cars and no car is perfect. If you want reliability and build quality you buy something like a Lexus, but then you give up a great driving experience in something at the other end of the spectrum like a Mclaren for example..... point is there isn’t a car that does everything great and although Tesla’s have some great points their build quality is extremely poor. At this point I don’t see myself buying another one but it won’t be because I care that the panel fitment or paint quality isn’t high enough
@@jameswillard1 lexus LC500 is close to being perfect with the N/A V8 and Lexus quality.
@@donn.4766 I owned one Don, it was gorgeous to look at, build quality was flawless, and sounded great but that was about it. The car was VERY heavy and not at all what I would call an engaging drivers car, just a cruiser. Acceleration was underwhelming but the reason why I traded out of it so soon was the super frustrating infotainment/touch pad that literally required pulling over to scroll through even the simplest commands. A close friend of mine(who is also a real car enthusiast) ended up buying the convertible version and had the exact same feelings about the car as I did.
I picked up my Plaid 3 days ago, got lucky as there wasn't too many imperfections but it definitely could have been built better. These issues are very real. The paint booth they use must be in a parking lot or something, the dust in the paint is unacceptable. But I was expecting worse based on what others have experienced. I would say the build quality is one step below McLaren.
I’m really happy to hear from people that actually know what they’re talking about :)
It’s not unreasonable to expect decent quality when we are dishing out a significant amount of money. You’re right on the paint. And I had no idea about McLaren. Luckily that’s never been on my radar :)
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips "It’s not unreasonable to expect decent quality when we are dishing out a significant amount of money"
Sort of. When people paid 300k for a Aston Martin, it wasn't for it's build quality. It sucked and it never really improved. The rest of the car was fantastic though. Price isn't really a factor on it's own. For the Plaid, you are paying for the fastest car on the road with some of the most advanced tech...in that regard it delivers.
We all know Tesla quality isn't the best, they have only been building cars a decade. It's not great but it's good enough. No car is PERFECT and I think it's unreasonable to expect a company that has only been building cars for 10 years, to make something that's better in EVERY way compared to companies that have been building them for 100 years, there is always compromises. For Tesla owner's it's accepting the paint is thin and a few bit's might not be perfectly aligned. Seems fair
@@stinger15au there are Chinese EV makers who are mass producing cars right now and still don't have these issues. These Chinese TV makers are also newer. The whole excuse about only being a decade-old does not hold water anymore.
I would still buy a plaid though.
@@B4R0N. ooo but they do have issues.
It's just not spread 24/7 by the media.
There is 100,000 ICE fires in cars a day, they don't get a mention, one tesla has a accident causing a fire and it's front page news.
Tesla isn't perfect but it's just ignorant to think they are not unfairly targeted by the media and have been for years.
If it’s worse tha mclaren it must be really bad!
People says he’s over reacting but a new Honda Civic won’t leave the dealership looking like this, so a new car that costs 5x as much shouldn’t either
We all take the Japanese Toyota Production System for granted. Tesla outright threw it out the window.
If this was a new Lexus, the ceo would commit ritual suicide from shame.
Tesla's headlights and brake lights are some of cheapest looking assemblies I've seen.
I was thinking the same thing. Especially the taillights. They just don't look right and never have.
I was thinking the same thing. Especially the taillights. They just don't look right and never have.
I was thinking the same thing. Especially the taillights. They just don't look right and never have.
@@effinyu9554...I used to be a parrot, but I'm alright now, I'm alright now.😜
literally no other automaker can get away with building something this glaringly bad. literally how does tesla get a free pass for this
I won't lie, these build quality issues have been what has made the idea of owning a Tesla extremely less appealing to me.
This video is not off the lot, and you can tell the car has been driven likely for at least a week (based on seeing he’s had wrap installed on the fenders). It’s very possible some of these occurred after delivery. Not an excuse, but just calling it out. This guy could’ve showed the mileage on the car if he wanted to prove it truly is brand new, but didn’t. That being said, I do want Tesla to make sure quality is excellent before delivery
I really like Tesla, but you cannot have these kinds of issues with a $130,000 car.
No news here, Tesla is known for shitty build quality, especially for the price you pay.
So it's better to buy a Porsche taycsn for almost 2x with much less range speed and features? The thing is it's sad that they sometimes have this quality but it's by far the best. But these things will be soon a problem of the past it'd getting better and better every year.
@@jankoln4727 it might be the fastest and most technological car on the market for the price. But it's over 100K, I'd expect better build quality than that on ANY brand new car. Even if it cost less than 10K.
I rather accept mini scratch to the frame and lights rather than the maintenance of the I.C.E...
@@thirdiii171 It's people like you are the reason why Tesla can get away with this. The car is great but if I'm paying that much for a luxury car, I expect it to have no chips or random scratches.
@@ryanwashere21 then sell your car.
My dad was a perfectionist. Like this guy. They all have inferiority complexes and they LOOOVE complaining to show what discerning and superb standards they have in life. I loathed it.
See what that car looks like in a year, my friend.
You want that kind of perfection, go buy a Pagani.
Those of you who know this high standard individual; what's life like having him around?
Tesla, you're not excused. But we understand how difficult it is to produce goods to that level of perfection in order to keep everybody happy.
My question to the client is: in your area of expertise, should you be subjected to the same level of criticism, will you come off smelling like roses or a Venus Fly Trap?
I enjoyed reading this. Thank you.
He paid for it and should get his money’s worth, good luck being content with any shit tesla gives you for a boatload of money
Poor build quality... I mean it's a freaking 100K+ car man, that's not cheap you know.
It IS possible to be a huge fan of Tesla without drinking the Kool-Aid. Amen.
Valid points on some of those panels where it looks like dents, the wheel well area, etc. Have a MS on order and hoping for better but gotta be prepared to decline as well. Issues is you now in many cases submit final payment before being able to get inside the car. Tesla is a bit ridiculous in the fact that you have to purchase it fully and accept it before being able to see everything your accepting.
That was my exact situation. Had to pay before picking up. I hope your S is in better condition when you get it.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips you know the issue with tesla is that people like you pay a lot of money and then they accept a rubbish product. if all of you would have refused lower quality products it wouldn't make sense for them to do that. But it does. It is literally the only thing driving the quality of the products down. People spending loads of money on anything with no regards of the quality. I don't mind you complaining but at the same time you are ruining the market for the rest of us. The manufacturer would rather sell something cheap to someone who has money and throws them away than sell something of value to someone who appreciates it.
@@valojj3197 rubbish?
@@a1machinista1 There are sub 30K vehicles with better fit and finish than the issues exhibited in this Tesla. Quite a lot, actually. Take a look at the fender liner of a Toyota Camry, tap it and see if it flaps around like in this video. Obviously a boring Camry would have much worse fit and finish than expensive Model S Plaid, right??
Have higher standards for more expensive, more 'premium' vehicles.
@@a1machinista1 Oh come on. Are you serious? IT is rubbish
Seems like that's mostly finish and not build quality. One disadvantage of not having normal dealers. A traditional dealer would have done some prep work before hand to make it look good. Then fixed the 2 imperfections that were still noticeable if a customer complained.
I bought a Tesla model 3 performance and a Toyota Prius prime in the same month a few months ago.... The service and quality care that I got from Tesla was way better than those assholes at Toyota.... The lack of having piranhas lurking around a dealer lot looking to front load of deal with stuff you don't need far trumps the seamless process when acquiring a car from Tesla
this is for sure build quality. what for finish? do you expect the panel gaps and loose fenders to disappear with a little polish or what?
Certainly all the little paint issues and scratches to the lights could be addressed in their auto shop with some touch up paint and polishing. And maybe the fender liner would quickly get addressed. I'm not saying they'd fix everything, but could make it presentable.
people dislike this but that car should be damn perfect for that price.
$130K,
Porsche quality it is not.
I've seen some brand new Fiat Pandas that have a better build quality; now, Fiat isn't known exactly for quality, right?
Agreed. Mine had a misaligned rear hatch, misaligned drivers door, two chips on the drivers door edge where it was obviously opened into something, weird chemical etch looking stain on the glass top that nothing has taken off, drivers seat back adjustment knob stopped working within the first 500 miles, factory paint is paper thin. You even have the reflection of rocks in it and it’ll chip.
I've never had time to study a Model S up close as no one I know has one. My neighbor has two Model 3s though and a couple friends have one too. There doesn't seem to be any difference in how a $40K Tesla is built from a $130K Tesla because everything mentioned here is true of every Model 3 I've seen. I have a 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia and you can run your finger over every seam, take a magnifying glass to the paint, rub your palm over the leather, check the wheel arches, the bolts holding the airflow undertray, the intercooler plumbing, the turbocharger heat shield, the clips covering the engine cover screws, EVERYTHING is of quality better than any GM or Ford product. That Giulia is built 10 times better than a Model 3. Which means it is built 10 times better than this Model S as well. The people who buy Tesla's are not prioritizing their build quality and Musk knows this, which is why he never does anything about it. He doesn't have to...
I have a 2011 Gullietta and while it has of course suffered a bit over the years I can confirm that the build quality is much better than what Tesla puts out today, especially when you consider the price.
Let's be honest, is any American car known for quality?! (answer: Nope!)
I thought Fords were built good (I'm not sure cuz I'm not American)
“I don’t care if the door gaps are straight, when the driver steps on the gas I want him to shit his pants” -Enzo Ferrari
You bring up a funny point. The F40 was known to have particularly awful fit and finish with horrible panel gaps. Also the greatest super car ever made. Superior engineering will always trump superior fit and finish.
Had a couple of small issues with our Tesla when we picked it up. I spoke to the manager about it and they scheduled to fix it 3 weeks later. All little issues were fixed. Also, you didn't have to take it right? When we bought ours, we had a 7 day window to return it and also had the option of not taking delivery at all. What did they say to you for when they can fix the issues?
They said schedule a service appointment. It is on October 4th. I will update with results. They did say I don’t have to take it. But they also said I may have to wait month before another came.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips If it's any consolation, I had more issues with the quality on our Land Rover when I picked it up. It had paint swirls, panel gaps, and scuffed leather seats in the back. A month later, the heater kept blowing fuses and they had to replace parts for that as well.
From my experience, Tesla did a much better job fixing delivery issues than Land Rover did. It took Land Rover 4 months to iron out all the issues.
Oh man. That’s terrible too.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips hopefully it works out. We bought a new highlander last week and it had hella issues, especially with the leather and the paint. Dad paid $250 to get it fixed up at the dealership. i think its the way with most cars nowadays cus of covid. Im guessing tho, could be wrong.
@@ronin7645 you’re comparing Tesla to the shittiest of the shit cars on the market… it’s an insult, try to compare it to Lexus, or Toyota for that matter. We bought a Crown RoyalSaloon back in 2006 with all the most advanced tech for its time, and nothing is broken after 15 years, car still looks brand new
Its obviously never going to be a porsche, or any german car for that matter.
Thats what hits the hardest, the quality control must be better. Cars need to roll a little slower of the production line
Thats unacceptable. I wouldn't accept that, take it back.
These may seem nitpicky issues to some people. Having owned a P85D for over 6 years, I wish I had made a bigger deal about it at delivery. These are the areas where a lot of long term issues arise. I took my car in to get similar issues fixed when they got worse and Tesla never really fixed them to a satisfactory degree. They have always bothered me and left a bad taste. When you pay well over 125k for a car these things should not be acceptable. I love Tesla and right now they are the best out there for EV's but we are well beyond the point where these issues should have been resolved.
well as long as you and other like you don't give a shit about their money and are ready to throw it away on a poor product you are only going to encourage this practice. Uneducated consumerism is what ruins the market for the rest of us. As long as you spend loads of money on crap products what do you expect? Tesla saying hmm we make to much money whit shit cars let's make better ones? hahaha
$125k for a car is chump change. It’s what you’d expect in that price range…
@@abimbolaaku2709 No, literally every competitor is better in this respect
@@abimbolaaku2709 125k is far from chump change it’s more than the average household income in the us. I mean if you go out and spend 20k on a civic and it’s in better condition than something 5 times the price you gotta see the problem
@@abimbolaaku2709 you fool...
That feeling when you pay top whack for a kit car... my condolences
for a brand new car thats completely unacceptable
That's ridiculous, and this is a car company that supposed to have more money that the rest of the car brands. But people just get excited when see a big screen inside this cars that forget what quality really is. I can't believe that this cost more than $100k and having this issues.
"Tesla build quality is trash."
Water is wet.
Hahaha
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips $130k is a lot of money. If you have so much money to spend on a car, buy something good. Such issues aren't acceptable, even for a $13k car. Have you seen EQS in real life? The difference is like night and day compared to Tesla.
@@blaise3711 or an etron GT. They should put them all up against each other lol
@@blaise3711 But the plaid would smoke the eqs and the etron gt thats the "night and day you forgot to mention" vs these small scratches that seem to be from after they made the car in transint it looks like.
@@ToniEzero The difference in acceleration is less than 2 seconds. No sane person cares about that. All these cars are very fast. But if you look at all the other things, it's like night and day. Tesla build quality has been atrocious since day one. That was more than 10 years ago. And they're charging $130k+ for it. Insane.
Wow my 10 yo BMW has les less damages than this new car, this is insane, i never would have known it was this bad before i saw this video, this is a damn new cars you expect it to be perfect
You missed the main problem, it’s electric
i have a tesla myself and can agree that these cars are just put together really fast and not taken into detail. not only on mine but several others i’ve seen on the streets have completely unmatched panel lining to the point where it just looks like you put another panel from another car on it. The windows have gaps from the rear window and the blinker lights on the side wiggle if put with enough pressure. Also the frunk is very hard to close as it feels like it shouldn’t be that tight. other than that tho amazing car
This guy has never been in a old 90's car AND IT SHOWS 😂
Yeah but this Tesla is 140k. I would be mad too
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the whole point of buying a brand new car is that you don't get any of the stuff you expect from and old 90's car though :/
Actually a Lexus from the 90’s is far and away superior quality to this build and it is triple the cost. A Honda Accord would have less issues. These cars have all the hallmarks of “over worked pissed off” American assemblers. Some auto workers would let defects through to stick it to the man when being asked for more production etc…
@@samgordon7616 yeah, aftermarket support.
Dang that sucks. I would expect much better quality from a $150k vehicle. 🤦🏻♂️
ever been in a Ferrari? You want to see some Fiat bullshit? Pull the carpet up on one of those shit boxes.
And people ask why I bought a Taycan Turbo S instead of this junk...
Road rolling cruise missiles with fiery lithium warheads. Tesla should've focused on fundamentals instead of gimmicks.
Love Tesla for its tech but I decided to go with the entry Taycan with some options added. It comes out to 90k but I will be happier with it for sure. I would not be able to look at these imperfections everyday without going mental.
Good luck charging your Tycan on the road trip 😂
@@TheXxxeeelll no problems charging Taycans. Atleast they make it to the chargers instead of staying weeks at the shop
@@TheXxxeeelll Someone who has $90K to spend on a car most likely has another car that is more suitable for a road trip than a Tesla.
Bro, these kinda blemishes etc ....man..there's other shit to be concerned about..Cuz, well..nobody cares cept you
@@nunyanunya6398 These are defects that are easy to spot on their last quality control checkpoint. If Tesla's professionals couldn't detect these easy to spot defects, how can we be sure that they do top works on more substantial aka expensive parts of their product, such as batteries, electric motors, suspensions, etc which usually are located in the harder to spot area of the car. This sort of things certainly give less confidence to their potential customers to switch to Tesla.
I’ve dealt with a lot of customers like this. It DOESN’T mean the build quality is trash lol.
A lot of customers with high standards?
@@757entrepreneur yeah.. We do what we can. And even if i can still get a detailer to fix it, they’re still mad after. Even when the car is 10/10. A lot of then just have this act..
@@SpiritJellyfish1 I hear you man. I worked in service for 9 years but the quality didn't improve a whole lot. You do get some customers that are ridiculous but some people just have high standards that Tesla can't keep up with unless we do a few thousand dollars worth of rectification work.
@@757entrepreneur exactly!
Just admit an $80k+ car made by tards isn’t worth it
Can you imagine Porsche delivering a Taycan in that state of dishevelment?
That would never happen tho.
No of course not. The engineers would start crying if they saw a Porsche in that condition being delivered to a customer.
I believe you, but for some sceptic tesla fanboys, show the mileage to "proof" that is really brand new
probably if they would have charged 220k for it you would have not accepted it. the truth is the price is to low if this is happening.
130k to low??
@@Rayan67897 for the performance your getting 130k is low.
Dude... If you're not satisfied...then just return the product.
Don't buy Tesla... Just buy Chevrolet bolt.
Did you believe that's his car the car didn't unlock the door for him and he didn't show us the interior defects clearly not his car he is just a hater
@@Lordllloflllshadow this guy is smart!
Clearly not my car. Check out the interior review of “not my car” in a bit.
Or he can take it back to tesla within 72hrs and have them fix any discrepancies he has with the car.
Who are you to tell this man what he should or should not spend his money on. Why are you taking it so personal that he is pointing out discrepancies with his $150k+ "product"?
D Mac thanks for being a voice of reason :)
This video is a nice response to those who question why some people buy the Porsche Taycan insted of the Tesla Model S. Germans simply have a better eye for quality, fit & finish.
Yeah my S8 had NONE of these issues.
I remember reading, "Tesla is NOT a car company. It is a tech company making cars..." So this isn't a surprise.
Worked for Tesla back in the P85D till P100D days. There quality control was always bad.
Yes, I could say the same for Corvettes, yet as long as customers overlook the bad quality, GM will keep pumping them out that way. I think Tesla's motto is the same: As long as the car performs well, quality is secondary.
@@davepaturno4290 GM for sure has way higher quality control then Tesla. Tesla is not pumping as many cars as GM.
@@AliHusain-qk7mz I never had a Tesla but I have owned Corvettes and monitor the forums. GM is still nowhere near Mazda/Toyota/Lexus quality.
@@AliHusain-qk7mz I never had a Tesla but I have owned Corvettes and monitor the forums. GM is still nowhere near Mazda/Toyota/Lexus quality.
@@davepaturno4290 Japanese quality is amazing. I don't believe there is any American company that competes quality wise with the Japanese. Don't get me wrong..I love most all makes. I have a 700Hp Procharged 2017 Camaro SS and a Ford F150. I have driven mostly every Tesla except Plaid Model. Done thousands of miles on Tesla's. GM quality is far better.
Isn't that why they make them go so fast so you can't see it? 😂😂😂😂😂
100k+ but feels more like 20k-
Take the SOB back and insist on a refund, or an acceptable exchange. That's a slap in the face for a $100K+ vehicle!
Now I know why I see so many wrapped Teslas!
Yeah, it hides all the flaws from the factory. Sad.
Good point!
That's just straight up horrible
I just got mine yesterday. I also have a couple issues like super obvious scratches and clear coat issues. I hope all your problems get resolved soon brotha!
Thank you. Same for yours. I hope they take care of us both.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips a detailer can fix all of these paint issues
130k american quality. I better spend 130k in a Mercedes AMG.
At first I thought it was a "Karen" video. But you definitely have the right to complain. Mine just had a misaligned door handle (which they fixed in a few days) a few missing shelves, which they delivered as well as the tow hook. The fender liner is not great. Overall though its easy to forget it once driving. The paint issues would've been a deal breaker for me. My 3P already had issues at 150 miles with chipping. The plaid hasn't thus far.
Man, I'm so sorry. :( What a disappointment. I'm a Tesla fanboi, but I'm also very quick to point out problems, as I want Tesla to succeed. As such, they need to be called out for problems so that they can fix them. There is just no reason for a $130k+ car to be delivered with sub-standard fit and finish. Tesla has a serious initial quality and customer service problem. Elon needs to fix both. Fast. They may be the only game in town at this price/performance level right now, but the other players aren't going to leave that market to Tesla. And when they come, Tesla's quality and customer service had better be up to scratch by then.
I got lucky with my Model 3 Performance... It had two minor paint flaws that were both in areas that were difficult to see. I've loved the car for over two years now.
I have a Plaid on order, and it's going to have to look better than that on delivery day.
Did you refuse the car or accept it? Let us know how it goes?
Yes please inspect carefully. And I love Tesla. But it is an abusive relationship. My X has had problems and now this. It’s not so much the issues, but the Go F Yourself attitude that Tesla regularly gives me. I accepted it because they threatened me that I would have to be out back in line for a car, and it could take months.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips There's something to be said about buying a new car off of a dealership's lot. You know exactly what you're getting, before you pay for it.
So why do people love Tesla then? If other options existed in the market they’d be toast. I don’t see them surviving if EV takes off and everyone starts making them if this is the best they can do
That attitude will change when they aren’t in control of the market of EV. They live off blind loyalty as we can see here
@@ultrazls1 I think this here will be the key. Once we see other electric cars that can compete with the Tesla in terms of range and performance, they might not survive if they keep doing like this. They’re running on borrowed time.
Its true🤓
@@irtiza4262 Lada
@@irtiza4262 Lada is car company N00b
@@irtiza4262 you literally asked what car company has the best quality so shut it
@@irtiza4262 I’m not gonna continue this discussion, but the @ symbol exists.
I’m out.
@@irtiza4262 Lmao, you act like a typical Tesla brat.
If you do not return it to Tesla, they will never learn. Forget performance, if you do not return it, you will be forever dissatisfied. If that is your decision, live with it.
$25,000 Fords have better fit and finish than this.
Their build quality is far from perfect. Is it good… ugh I’d say it’s “ok” but any car company that you inspect like this guy is doing at delivery, you 100% find errors. I work for a dealership and this happens all the time. All brands. Good news is, the company will fix it. Bad news is, once it’s all fixed and you drive up the road, then somebody rear ends you or t-bones… that’s when you realize, sh!t… it’s just a car LOL
No... This is unacceptable quality for the asking price. Especially when the competition offers better quality for less. No excuse.
Not if you're asking over 100k for it. My dad's corolla has better build quality than this even if you inspect it this close. My dad's 1993 corolla btw.
@@stefanospap6288 of course it’s unacceptable which is why they do fix it. They are still a new company…
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Corolla has been being built for much longer. Tesla is still very new. They do fix this as well. It’s no issue just bring it in, you get a free rental and it doesn’t take long for fixing. I work for Toyota their new cars still have plenty of issues like this. We fix them
Tesla dog
Some of the scratches most likely from loading and unloading off the transport truck. But after you get everything corrected give it a couple months before you start having a bunch of dings all over the place from jealous inconsiderate morons parking next to you.
Happened yesterday there was at the grocery. I was walking back to the parking lot and I noticed this driver who was getting ready to leave conveniently open the door to hit the Porsche parked in the next space. You can tell driver did it on purpose too. And people wonder why people with nice cars generally park at the empty side of a parking lot.
@@targetegrat That's so sad and scary
And this is only what you can see on the outside..
That hurts.. Our 3 was even much worse. Thing is I see it on all of them but 95/100 people don’t care or don’t see/know.
omg those are serious "first world " problems, how will you survive those micro scratches Im not sure..
Micro scratches on a $140,000 car? No! This thing better be clean!!!!!
You have very low standards for a car that cost over $100k
You call the ENTIRE build quality trash? There were 1mil opportunities for errors in build quality. You found 4 of them. Now you make a blanket statement that “build quality” is trash?
if you wanted a quality built Vehicle should had gotten yourself a Avalon, you knew Tesla was known for this its like buying a land rover just enjoy the experience
This is so called American build quality
When you consider how fast they're shoveing these out of the production line, I'm amazed they look presentabe at all.
And yet many Camrys and Accords are produced, and quality is MUCH better than the Tesla, which costs twice as much. Unacceptable!!
as long as I get that 0 to 60 I take care of that later on haha
I hope it doesnt fall apart while doing it tho
Its not really about falling apart. If the paint is not sealing the body correctly there is a high probability of rust showing up in the near future
Perhaps you but most tesla owners never use that power, I have yet to get one to even go fast let alone race
Well it will fall apart piece by piece till we get to 100 so what's the point.
And it's still slower than what they say.
The biggest issue i see with the car is that it’s not a lucid
I complained . They got it picked up and I was fully refunded and they sent me a newly built one free of charge.
How long did it take? They threatened me it was going to be months.
Your points are well taken. The Tesla fan boys are the true haters. I am scheduled to pick up a model S next month. Good luck with getting this stuff repaired.
Thank you. I scheduled an appointment. Let’s see what they do. I hope your experience is better than mine.
@@PinnaclePerformanceRUclips Does Tesla fix this sort of stuff for free?
@@lachlanB323 yes they do.
@@jessieanderson3931 Then why is this such a big issue?
@@lachlanB323 depending on where you are located good luck getting scheduled in promptly for repairs and it may take multiple appts as well some "within spec" denials after the fact. Had some issues back when I got the 3 in 2019 so can't imagine it has gotten better with time due to aggressive sales/manufacturing growth that is not matched by servicing/support. Besides that, it's just a bad experience for the price. Finally, given that Tesla primarily relies on word of mouth advertising if you don't count Technoking and his meme factory it's not a good look.
It’s great from 10feet away...‼️😆😂🤣
All these cars offers is straight line performance to a certain degree. Literally nothing else.
To a certain degree....
Going quick in a straight line is the only degree.....
This car literally destroys every other car from factory that has ever been made in the quarter mile (except the Rimac Nevera)
Nobody tracks their daily and if you do you're either brave or a complete idiot. Nordschleife times are a completely pointless measurement in the real world and it destroys road cars and how they ride
(ty James May)
@@teej5619 Doing street races in a 1000hp car is brave as well if you think about that. Since any M5, GT63S and stuff handles waaaaay better than this car, this car literally just offers nothing except straight line performance and tons of useless gimmicks like a Yoke steering wheel. Its the same car just always a tad faster on straight lines over and over and over again.
New Tesla slogan: "Looks great from ten feet away!"
New Tesla slogan: "Burns the asses and creates free advertising from haters"