I bought an eGPU in 2020: My experience so far
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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2020
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Adam takes us through his journey into eGPU's so far, and why he chose to buy the Asus XG Station Pro.
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eGPU would have a niche use if only the enclosure isn't so bloody expensive.
10 more years it will be cheap
It’s a bit expensive but still convenient. In my case I have a 6 core laptop with a shitty graphics card, so spending $300 instead of buying CPU, motherboard, RAM, case, SSD and PSU is a reasonable price.
It will continue to be expensive as long as it stays niche
@@oscarmvl 300$ will be the cost of the enclosure only. You then have to spend at least 300$ more for a decent GPU...
And when think of the bloody expensive enclosure it’s unavoidable to think of rather build a pc that small but much less problem and much more performance (eGPU eat up approximately 10% on GPU on external monitor, if feedback on laptop monitor, it consume about 15%)
into ends at 4:51
Coral Keyes you the real MVP
God bless you, good sir!
Relevant usage info from 7:25.
You are a god send ty
OMG! Thank You!! Could he talk anymore about NOTHING??
I like this guy he is greatfull for everything he has
Who would be not grateful to have Any GPU,CPU,Mobo,tools,and more.In their diaposal.I would be very happy and grateful
He talks too much
He's so humble
No. He realizes his audience won't have things like a "library of graphics cards" 2:28, so he knows his demographic and communicates this. Acknowledging that his situation is different than being grateful. He's a good presenter and maybe he is full of gratitude off camera, idk, but let's not make him a saint for stating the obvious, and just doing his job.
@@lox3355 the point is he talks too much??? Maybe that *should* be the takeaway, after noting not everyone (actually, just about nobody else) has his resources, he goes into jargon corporate-speak about "workflow". What the heck is "workflow," really? It's a made up word to make what people do sound more important than it is. He's a pretty good presenter, I'll give him that, but humble and grateful? Give me a break.
"My experience so far" = 75% of the video is talking about everything that happened BEFORE the actual experience, plus a review of the physical appearance of the asus egpu.
Gotta get that 10min somehow
Yes... blah blah blah. GET ON WITH IT!
I mean, the full video title is "I bought an eGPU in 2020: My experience so far
", so it makes sense that the experience would be describing him buying it. Plus he gives some good advice for people looking into this for the first time anyways.
10:25 MINUTES OF BEATING AROUND THE BUSH!! SPOILERS: HE NEVER SAID IF IT WAS ANY BETTER THAN A REGULAR LAPTOP.
This isn't the first time I ran into this guy's videos and that's all he did was beat around the bush
Really he isn’t helpful that sucks what a waste of time
Damn that's for saving me
"Now this isn't a review, but I will be following up and a later date with benchmarks and my final thoughts, but I did want to include some of my initial thoughts." - direct quote from this very video, 7:17
@@kylezo You mean a direct quote from near the end of the video?
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. Although eGPUs are definitely a niche product the sacrifice for a portable laptop that works like a desktop workstation by connecting one plugin is pretty magical.
Love the way you talk, very authentic. Keep it up mate
If i have rtx2060 internal gpu and i buy external gpu with also rtx2060 Does it work together to be 12 vram ..?
Great overview of your experience. I totally agree. I have a Razer core x chroma and it's a little bit of a finicky setup and there's some weird driver issues. But yeah when it works, it works great.
Had one. In my experience you can expect card to perform about as well as their immediate predecessor with one of these. My RX5700XT was performing about on par with a Vega64 for example going by 3DMark scores. Works great for devices like Macbook pro 13" which don't have dedicated GPUs.
Hi, can I connect eGPU on my Dell Precision 5520 laptop (workstation) to help rendering 8K 360 video,which I can do but it is extremly slow,so I hope eGpu can help? And which one you would recommend? Thank you.
Did you run into any Error code issues? I keep getting an error code 12,
This error can occur if two devices that are installed on your computer have been assigned the same I/O ports, the same interrupt, or the same Direct Memory Access channel (either by the BIOS, the operating system, or both). This error message can also appear if the BIOS did not allocate enough resources to the device.
I have no idea how to sort it on my Dell Inspiron 7490, Any ideas?
eGPUs would be more mainstream if it wasn't for the fact that $300+ only gets you a damn case!
Please keep that series frequently update my brother especially on the content creator side, i would love to see how this option could perform for video editing :)
Have a great week ahead and stay vigilant during that "stupid" pandemic situation
Awesome , in depth info...Thanks ! New subscriber.
this may sound like a dumb question but why don't egpus use 2 separate thuderbolt 3 ports one for input one for output so you don't have a loss or is this one of those "thats not how any of this works"
Did anyone feel sleepy listening to this guy XD
Aayushman Singh I’m about to find out
At 1.25x speed sounds perfect lmao
It could have easily been about 5 mins long and got all of the points across just as effectively.
Absolutely
No
Nice video. You can reduce stuttering and get some extra fps by connecting a external monitor or the TV directly to the GPU output rather than using the laptop display. A direct output can't do miracles, but it will improve your experience.
Sooooo is it any good for video editing and which games did you have problems with?
I would love to see more of this that is more optimized. Honestly I dont play games on the go, but this solution seems like it would make the most sense for me.
Thank you for sharing. I’m really looking forward to seeing a review of this one.
Wow I'm 8 minutes in what a terrible channel.
I went with ITX myself. In my room i have a mounted monitor on the wall with a shelf for the itx; I was going to go super small itx with a m.2 pci adapter and the Asrock desk mini.
I need help finding external graphics card for my laptop I am confused with the egpu and graphics card. So if I get the egpu do I need to buy the graphics card too? Is the egpu just a shell? Heeeeelp! Thanks
Hi Adam, is there anyway I can use a eGPU on my Dell Inspiron 7775 which does not have thunderbolt 3??? Think I have wasted my money due since I used my computer for architecture rendering which is not working with my computer. Any advice or help!!!!
I got an egpu and Intel nuc as a replacement for my full size tower. Loving the smaller size. No performance issues, since I connect my display directly to the gpu. Nice and portable. Strange that there are no egpu with built in nuc.
Oh well, maybe hades canyon 11th gen.
Which egpu do you have
what case is the one in 1:10?
Also what are the best small form factors options available today?
Looks like an NZXT H1.
Do you run the monitor cable through the egpu or the laptop?
Thank you for expressing your motivations up front!! Thanks you
Thanks for this video. I have an Alienware Graphics Amplifier (AGA), unfortunately it is riddled with problems which many people who bought it seem to be experiencing and Dell doesn’t seem to care or provide much support for it. Their “support” seems to revolve around pushing the blame back onto the customer by saying the AGA only supports certain graphics cards, even going so far as to say that card manufacturers may have VBIOS settings which conflict with the AGA, causing incompatibility issues. That has been my experience at least when I reached out to them for help with my AGA which is effectively useless because apparently my Galax GTX 1660 Super is not on the compatibility list. Stay away from the AGA at all costs if you can, and if you do buy one you do so at your own risk.
3:09 epgu
lol
LMAO..... 😂😂😂
Thank you.
Thank you. He was taking too long took explaining how he moved to a one-bedroom apartment.
@@NothingButStardust I was pointing out the fact he said gpgu instead of egpu lmao
Hi... Is there a review coming up? I'm very interested to know if the eGPU powers on automatically? how long is the power cord? Is there a list of compatible cards? Is it loud? etc... Thank you.
Dear Adam could you please enlighten me on the issue of whether "Leela Chess Zero" software run successfully (or it is doomed to fail due to, e.g., throttling effects?) on eGPU, e.g., on one with RTX 2080 inside, connected to a descent laptop (Dell Latitude 5591 - 15.6" - Core i7 8850H - 16 GB RAM - 512 GB SSD www.cnet.com/products/dell-latitude-5591-15-6-core-i7-8850h-16-gb-ram-512-gb-ssd-j3vwf/ )? Is it really different for this use of the gpu RTX 2080 (not for action games, where frames ps is the problem) if the gpu is incorporated in the laptop or is externally connected to it? Thanks in advance!
+$300 for what? Mini ITX box with an average psu? These things won't make anywhere because of this bs.
Depends on what you need and how much money you have to spend.
If you want a thin and light laptop with a long battery life for work, like say the LG gram. But when you come home you want to game?
And eGPU makes sense.
@@G33kyAli isnt this where AMD comes in with the new g14 Laptop? I think its kinda cool being able to have the ability to game and Confidently take my laptop without having charging anxiety in uni or work, not that I go to uni.
Or work.
Or have the G14...
Why did I Write this comment?
My thoughts exactly, just need to surpass the need to disassemble a laptop in order to connect the cables and you can build your own without any sort of stress and for way cheaper too.
Better buy a pretty powerfull laptop and stay with it
@@santiagocv9918 a "pretty powerful laptop" come with a minimum 1000$ or 900€, the CPU will indeed keep up with time but the GPU will be bonkers in no time. Doing the Math and paying 300€ from time to time, may be preferable than 800 plus everytime...
Dude watching you is like watching Phil Dhunpy in modern family(tech version), which good like watching a dad that teaching you tech
Bro im using amd ryzen 5 3400 with 2gb integrated graphic, but still my game graphic pixelates, (enemy not visible clearly)whether i should buy external gpu or buy new monitor? Right now im using smart tv as monitor it had 60HZ refresh rate, im confused
Very solid. Thank you !
Pro tip: If you're looking for a laptop that will work with an eGPU, look for a laptop with a thunderbolt 3/USB 4 with GFX support.
Would a usb 3.2 Gen 2 port Work???
@@ajaxsid9034 nope , gpus transfer data using pcie interface (it's just like usb , but faster and different category ) , thunderbolt is a combination of pcie , display port and pcie . You need tb port on a laptop.
The best egpu solution out there is the Alienware graphics amplifier, since it uses PCI-e 3 protocol, the downside is that you can only use it on Alienware laptops, I've been using it for a while and I can tell you it works flawless no bottleneck or frame loss!
Increíble! :o
@ PCWorld
Can eGPU also be used for a older Desktop System like Win 7 build with a Videocard in it? Then just switch for games to the external one?
You mentioned streaming with an eGPU setup at 8:20. Are those streams still around somewhere? Wondering what the quality was like. Thanks!
I'd love to see some benchmarks comparing the performance for the same card in the EGPU and in a desktop PC with similar specs.
The CPU would be the main bottleneck so it would vary a lot... basically just look at "GPU Usage" and if it's close to 100% on the laptop setup a desktop CPU wouldn't help much.. if it was closer to 50% only GPU usage then you've got a severe CPU bottleneck so might double your FPS... plus of course there may be latency issues and micro-stutters due to the interface so you need to compare carefully... the CPU bottleneck is probably the main reason why it's a waste of money to add an RTX2080Ti but laptop CPU's are getting faster.
So no actual impressions, just an overview of egpu's in general, finding this particular one, praising the aesthetic, and talking about experiencing it down the line? and then what? another 10+ minute video in the future of part 1 of the intro to the exp[experience of the experience of using an egpu? nah
Dude's thick and high
I have a probook 450 that has a usb c port, can it csn it run the egpu that use thunderbolt ?
If your laptop dont have a type c slot can it work with an adaptor?
Looking forward to seeing if the external gpu dream can ever come true.
In theroy it totally can, but i doubt it on a tiny connector like thunderbolt. I don't get why top end laptops don't just have a big dirty slot down the side to extend standard pcie.
When a solution that supports PCIe 3.0/4.0 x16 exist. I will def switch to an eGPU setup.
Same here.
But quite disappointing bc laptops with ryzen can't have thunderbolt 3 certification, also note that Intel offers more PCIe lanes
Is the laptop still loud when using egpu? Or is it quite 40 decibel??
hai I need advice on egpu, have hp omen i7-9750H and Rtx 2060, I am interested in investing egpu maybe rtx 2080 or 2070 super, whats the FPS leap when using it.
Hi sir.. If I use eGPU on my laptop "dell inspiron 15 3000 core i5 8th gen, " is there any improvement that it will run fast.. Like Autocad, Rendering Videos.?
Rendering is more RAM heavy than it is GPU heavy. Your processor may need an upgrade, too.
@@Lord6 good luck upgrading laptop processor
@@dinodinoslav it's easier than you think. Buy a better laptop
@@Lord6 only really pricey ones like Eurocom have upgradable CPU, Dell Inspiron do not, so your previous comment is pointless.
@@dinodinoslav it is not. Upgrade your processor by buying an entirely new laptop. Problem solved.
I didn't mean buy a better laptop that allows for an upgradable processor. I simply meant buy a better laptop. i5 8th gen is not ideal.
I would love to have one of those cards hanging on the wall back there waiting to be attached to my pc
Get a job
Isn't a shorter cable better from the external gpu to your computer, so the data it has to travel is shorter, or is this negligible?
I saw a m.2 to PCIe x16 adapter with no power needed. ALSO, I would like to use a GTX1650 with no power supply required, do you think it will work?
I'm curious how well it would work in DaVinci Resolve for content creation.
That's the only reason I watch the vid, good thing I watched it at 2x the speed otherwise I would have really been disappointed.
eGPUs are those things that I absolutely WANTED to work. I've just had a few problems with Thunderbolt 3 and WiFi and USB peripherals and stability. I've had the Razer Core and the Mantiz MZ-02.
I may give another one a try here soon, but I'm dubious.
i have a gaming laptop will the gpu like share the power with the laptop and make it more faster or how does that work?
what is that white light pc you got in the back on the right side?
I think once USB 4.0 is introduced and this all becomes non-proprietor, I think this tech is gonna be awesome. I say this as someone with a lenovo C930 and a Razer Core X with a 2060 Super.
8:07 *DEFEAT*
I'd be interested in the noise level of the eGPU as well as the Dell XPS during gaming. Is it bearable or do you need to put on headphones to cope with the fans?
could you elaborate on your issue with egpu and lenovo p1 gen3 laptops?
I bought a Sonnet eGX Breakaway Box last year. It's larger, but I'd rather have the eGPU be a little larger and support a standard SFF power supply.
Well i think most of you don't realize the real long term meaning of having an EGPU :
1- Being able to choose a small , good looking, lightweight ultrabook whenever you're looking for a new PC
2- 80% of desktop performance is still a lot better than an igpu
3- These enclosures are pretty expensive but for a cheapo gaming experience this is pure madness : 80$ for one of the M.2 cheap versions of these connectors , 5$ for a cheap psu and when you're a student that cannot afford a gaming pc , for 85$ you got yourself a home gaming device without sacrificing your laptop
4- in a gaming laptop if your gpu gets too old, you'll have to get a whole new laptop; with an Egpu you just have to slap a new graphics card and you're good to go.
I'm the cheapo guy, i have an old Elitebook (this thing is absolutely indestructible) with a 35€ EXP GDC adapter, had an old 7950 lying around from my old desktop computer. I spent some time configuring it but now i can at least play recent games, not in ultra, but at least it's playable and i only got to spend 35 bucks and a few hours of my time. So yeah , worth it.
I agree with most of your points though I'm skeptical with the 2nd point you mentioned;
2- 80% of desktop performance is still a lot better than an igpu
While it's true that you'll lose around 80% of desktop GPU performance in EGPU it is also worth mentioning that current-gen IGPU is just 10% behind the desktop GPU- I have MSI GT75 titan 8sg with desktop RTX 2080 that IGPU performs virtually same with a desktop counterpart with just a margin of 10 percent difference, use EGPU with RTX 2080 inside and I will lose 20 to 30% percent of performance I'm getting out of my IGPU. It is not that of a mobile though since it's beefy but I would say the same with carrying an extra EGPU.
@@ejsanjose3608 igpu = Intel graphics or integrated AMD graphics. If you have a rtx in your machine, chances are that you already lose on all the other departments i mentionned : Size, Price , Evolution.
@@ejsanjose3608 sorry, I'm trying to understand everything both of you are saying. I'm looking to transition from console to pc and I'm doing my research as much as I can, any chance we can talk on discord or something. I have way too many questions for it all to be in the comment section
The way he's talking is a like a typical uncle that happy his ordered item has arrived.
I have a i3 10th gen laptop but without a thunderbolt 3 port can I connect a egpu to my laptop ?
These things will make a big comeback this year with small form-factor and AMD efficient.
there are reports of companies clearing thunderbolt 3 with AMD
Then USB 4
The flip side is we now have the imminent arrival of Ghost canyon and modular FF PCs, which may make E-GPUs redundant. I have one on my Hades Canyon setup, and I love it, but if I could have something the size of the Core X or Core V2 that's the whole PC? Sign me up!
This man is living in heaven 😍
will this work on workstation laptops with an already somewhat ok GPU (Quadro M1000M)? What if I want to supplement my M1000M with a Quadro RTX 5000 for my cad work?
Does this also charge the laptop? I.e. basically it also works as a dock for power, USB hard drives and screen , keyboard etc all plugged into the egpu
Absolutely nothing in this review would encourage me to trade out my gaming tower for this (or any) eGPU. But that's very useful information so many thanks!
When I saw thumbnail I thought it was the sidearm t1 (full computer) reviewed on optimum tech channel
What eGPU will work with my 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro?
processor: 2.9 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
Memory: 16GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3
Graphics: Radeon Pro 460 4GB Intel HD Graphics 530 1536MB
Is not for gaming it’s to edit 1080p and maybe some 4k videos on FCPX.
please tell me if i connect RTX 4090 24GB EGPU with MSI Raider GE78HX 13VI how will be the result with high end gaming laptop
This video is actually 5 minutes but they wanted to be able to put more ads on it smh
You need 10 minutes to put in ads
Danger Snek no you don’t. You just get more ad revenue if it’s 10mins+
I just got my Razer Core X, I installed my GTX 1060 ti into it and it has made a world of difference. It has in some cases tripled my performance. My setup uses the Lenovo Yoga 730 15” with an internal GTX 1050. I have an external monitor with mouse an keyboard setup at my workstation. I also use a Pluggable thunderbolt hub and plug the eGPU into that. Even though the software says that it may not work properly, I have had no problems so far. It makes no sense to me why you would try to run it on your laptop screen. Running games on such a small screen is awful. If you were going to try out eGPU’s why didn’t you go with the razer core x? It really is the best option out there. It’s really empowering to be able to game this well at home but then still have the capability to travel or even just sit on the couch and program.
I’m going to try a GTX 1080 ti in it soon. Maybe also a 2080 ti.
I still think that the best option is to buys quite powerfull laptop (like the g14, asus zephyrus gx502gw, etc)
Tristan Chambers u program on windows? Bot 😂
Well its a waste of money you can get the better performance building and actual pc or buying a NEW LAPTOP
@@tiagosoares9160 yes you can buy a new laptop, but what happens when you want to switch out just your GPU? Not exactly an easy thing when it comes to laptops.
i dont have type-c port in my laptop , how do i connect epu to my laptop , coz i plane to buy one
I really liked your review man! it just came across as honest... like you appreciate the good points of it but you're open to admitting the flaws of the device too... I probably wouldn't buy one, but I think they're really cool!
Oh my god i listened this to 2x and now the normal speed makes me yawn..... wth
Sounds like a nice option, if needed.
I'd probably just go for a small form factor.
Form factor?
Can I use the thunderbolt cable with a 3.1 USB type C port on my laptop for gaming?
dose it work with pc all one ?
When I looked into egpu's a few years ago the conclusion I came to was Alienware's complete proprietary setup or bust... Solid video, keep 'em coming and good luck finding your perfect setup!
Looking forward to some benchmarks and in game framerate comparisons between the internal and external gpu.
I have the XPS 7590 myself and would like to see more info.
Me to i have the XPS 15. Just download Cinebench.
I also have the 7590, do you have coil whine when you turn yours on? (Robotic internal sounds) just as the dell logo appears on boot
You're not mentioning anything about using it solely for supporting multiple external displays on a MB. I want to run 3 or 4 LG UltraFine 4K 24" monitors on an external GPU and tie into my MB PRO 16. Does anyone know how to do this?
7:20 is he passing the image back to the laptop's screen? How? It's bi-directional?
While eGPUs do have their niche uses, they seem like such bad investments since you're giving up a fair amount of performance (limited PCIE lanes for Thunderbolt 3, overhead from the controller) and can have wildly different experiences depending on how the laptop implemented Thunderbolt 3.
I don't know how small your new place is exactly, but I was able to keep a mid-sized tower in a 36 square foot room (480 square foot apartment), relatively comfortably. It involves a loft bed, splitting a 36 square foot bedroom in half horizontally, and a lot of ducking though, mind you.
Also the fact that just the enclosure is $300-400 alone half the time and then you gotta spend another $300-500 on a good GPU its pointless
Alienware has entered the chat.
Right, now try and take your mid-sized tower to work with you. Can't? Exactly, because you're comparing completely different use-cases.
It's like saying that a car is a bad investment because you take the train to work. Good for you, kinda irrelevant though.
@@user-ds8rj2vc4v If I'm not mistaken, Adam specifically stated he bought the eGPU because his new place was small, not because he has to take it to work semi-frequently. I did acknowledge there are niche use cases though, so I wasn't completely dismissing eGPUs, just that it's a terrible investment if the only reason you'd get one is because your place is small.
Good job on missing that context 👍
@@blarghmcblarghson1903
My apologies, I must have misread or misunderstood. You're right then, if the only benefit is for space saving, they could have just invested in a SFF PC.
I just went through exactly the same options and bitten the bullet on a Razor Core X Chroma. Will find out the pro's and con's when it arrives this week. One of the reasons to go for this option is that I dont require a monitor with USB-C as this enclosure also offers a USB hub and charges my laptop also.
Try not to use the USB hub in it or rather don't, there is already a bottleneck going on within the connection and if you use that same port will just decrease performance as it will eat up bandwidth that should have been reserve only for the GPU.
Can I use the thunderbolt cable with a 3.1 USB type C port on my laptop for gaming?
@@incognito7144 you need at least 3.2 i suppose
Are you using a Dell Inspiron in this video? It looks exactly like my Inspiron 7506.
Is it really need to be a laptop has thunderbolt type-c? Sorry for the question.. I'm not that techy person..
I am interested and planning to buy EGPU for my MSI GL627RC due to it becomes slow when rendering 3D models. (Interior Design rendering to be specific) ..
Is it compatible with my laptop?
@@pcworld bruh u can get a usb c/a port to thunderbolt in like 10 bucks
lol, some sff cases are as small as the egpu enclosure.
I need longer introduction.
Do we need to get our old gpu out to be able to use that?Or just get in the bios and disable it?
@@pcworld Thanks!
Does an eGPU combine power with the internal GPU or only the one put inside it?
The problem of eGPU is the very real loss of performance due to TB3 inefficiencies. That's a bit less true with 10th gen mobile 25W Intel cpus but will need TB4 to fix all performance issues
My HP Spectre and Hades Canyon both played nice with my eGPU (Razer Core X + 1080 Ti).
a load of pointless talking after 5 min watching , u wanna go to sleep
gotta hit that 10min ad revenue
🤣
I don't find it pointless. He's actually introducing the reason why he bought it, which might help some people out there decide
@@MeatCatCheesyBlaster There actually isn't a FF button on RUclips, so I wouldn't go calling other people bitches, dumbass
I had a similar issues with the same laptop and my Razer core V2. The solution I used was going in and manually turning off the internal 1660. It can cause problems if you don’t turn it back on when disconnecting the laptop. What I found was the 1660 turn on (while gaming) for a brief second and taking priority over the EGPU. Found it out by watching both cards power usage in MSI afterburning.
is there one that works with any desktop, specifically the alienware aurora r11, i currently have a 2080 super and while its very good and im very happy with it, im still looking to upgrade as much as i can, as there is a bit of lag in certain games
Video starts at 7:25
5:16 Giggity
Good video. Straightforward and informative. The only thing I thought was missing--given that Adam said it wasn't a review--was how you hook it up and turn off the internal graphics card. But he'll probably include that in his later review, I hope.
If it works it’s just plug and play. In my case I have to turn on my laptop with the GPU disconnected, when I connect the cable I get an nvidia notification saying an external GPU was connected and that’s it.