Big thank you to everyone for watching the video and commenting below. We have updated the description of this video to include more details on what you will need to jump an external PSU as requested.
I'd LIKE to use my laptop in a "2-Head" configuration , turning it into something ACTUALLY useful , more than just for gaming . Is there a way in the bios to set it so that it can see BOTH the internal gfx AND the external ? I l know I can plug 2 monitors into the ext card , but if I was to use the INT mon WITH the EXT , I _COULD disconnect the EXT. for portable use ... . I've seen this on other vids here on Y-T , but you were able to simplify the overall install better than most I've seen , so I thot I would ask . Thoughts ?
@@LA.20 - If you're asking to connect the HDMI to the laptop HDMI port , with the internal GFX disabled , the answer to THAT would be no . IF you're asking about connecting the HDMI cable to the EXT Vid , then I'd guess the answer to THAT would be YES , no matter which other port you'd used instead . It WOULD be interesting to see if you could connect 2 monitors to the external card , altho in it's native desktop configuration you can , so I'm guessing there wouldn't be a problem with _that_ here . I'm interested in running BOTH the internal GFX _and_ the EXTERNAL , so that I can run it as a native 2-Head unit without having to purchase a 2nd External Monitor ... .
@@chuckintexas Thank you very much for answering really appreciate it. Looks like my problem is the card itself as it won't even display anything despite being connected to the monitor, and it does not have a blue led light on, cause apparently RX580 should have a blue light present to indicate it that all connections are working. Already talked with the seller they are going to replace it.
well, he uses the cheaper version of egpu riser, it's made for mining bit coin so the manufacturer didn't tweak it for different purpos, but there's a special variant of this which is the expgdc beast, it will use your laptop's display and doesn't need external monitor.
Very cool video! It actually brings back what PC gaming was (for me) always about. A bit of tinkering and achieving results with creative thinking. Nowadays it seems it's all about splurging funds for the latest and greatest - yet this shows that lots can be done with older hardware. Thanks for posting!
PC Gaming will always be about the tinkering for me. Yeah, you can splurge and that's fine for a high end stable system but I have so many systems about to tinker with too it keeps things fun.
It's stioll 100$ about tinkering. It's just that the things to tinker with have cam up in price. That and a lot more people have been buying pre builts.
Well I have 5900 x and Rx 6800 and have no plan to upgrade anytime soon. I did just upgrade from four 8 gig sticks of 3200 mhz DDR 4 to two 16 gig sticks of 4000 mhz DDR 4 and that will do it for now. Ram got cheaper. especially when you look at my video's i upload. Things a beast.
This is just proof that you can Jerry rig anything on a budget for PC building. This is especially true if you’re looking to get into DCS and you don’t know where to start. You can literally use your dad’s old compact desktop and turn it into a gaming PC or SIM rig for less than $500 if you know where to look.
This is so helpful. I don't have the money to get a PC, all I can do is this. I don't take my laptop anywhere bc the battery is basically gone. So, if it's already staying on my desk all the time, might as well make it good.
One time I tried to take my wifi card out of my elitebook 8440p to try and put it in a disassembled motherboard then I accidentally cut the wifi wires so because my elitebook 8440p is my main laptop with Linux on it I need to put the router behind the lid of the laptop to work (edit:also why i wanna buy a lan cable and a egpu dock)
even better, an old optiplex with core i5 is probably cheaper then that adapter on ebay. some go for 50 dollars you just need to put your own ssd in it or hard drive
going to try . i have an asus g75 with a geforce 580. It actually plays games quite well but it is a 580..... i have a gtx 1080 just laying around so going to see 🙂
The main issue with this setup is that riser is for mining and is PCIe 1x as well as the port on the laptop your plugging to is also 1x. Your bottlenecking the video card like crazy. There is better m.2 pcie x4 versions of that riser that make more sense but wont work on a laptop like that as you need an open m.2 port that is wired at x4
I have a hp 630 notebook and i have tried doing this with an rx 470 but nothing i have done works. The card is not detected so I can't even install the drivers. I used a modded bios because of some "Whitelist" issue with Hp laptops. If possible could I get some info about how to proceed??
i wanna do this but i have an dell Monitor that has an built in pc. does it work whit that aswell. the onlything im worried about is the outputs on the GPU... to my built in pc monitor
Nope, there are a number of videos on RUclips though showing you potential ways of hacking it to get it on the laptop screen but this was more for an experiment of an old laptop being docked.
Hey how can I fix this my EGPU fan is working and when I connected it on HDMI it has no display and my laptop monitor is on supposedly it is working when the EGPU is working it worked yesterday but when I opened it today it doesn't work anymore help please
I remember doing this forever ago, nearly a decade ago, when I didn't have a proper PC yet, but had found the GPU I wanted (Radeon HD 7770) on a really good sale and wouldn't have the money for the other parts for a few more months, so I used it on my crappy laptop to play games for the time being, good times! Remember telling people I had a desktop GPU on my laptop and they were like "how?", because it was such a new concept back then. For testing how things are detected by Windows by the way, I prefer to use good old dxdiag, since it can show you if the card specs are also recognized correctly, not just the model.
You can use a different raiser like ADT-Link or others which you can connect to your M.2 pcie slot which has 4 lanes instead of 1 for the mini pcie making it a lot faster. You should test this and try different gpu generation for example 3000 series and overkill 4000 series to see if there are any difference going overkill. Would be a great content for you.
Yes, we have been looking into the M.2 slot versions recently as we have a system in which could utilise it. Will take a look at something higher end in terms of GPU for it.
Thanks for making the video. It would be better if you could test the bottleneck of the riser. For the example, is 1050 ti run the same in the egpu setup and in the real pc setup (pcie 3.0x16) ?
You should take it to the next level and convert this into a retro game cabinet. Mount the laptop internals inside the cabinet, attach the GPU like you have shown, get an old CRT monitor and create a good old arcade cabinet. The system will be plenty powerful enough for old arcade game emulation and you'd have a nice conversation starter.
@@TechLabUK U need to upgrade ur cpu... Running a 780 with a 2nd gen i3 and ddr3 ram.. Using this with a better laptop would be interesting to see how much the GPU is bottlenecked by the network card port
This video is perfect for me, I've been looking for a way to upgrade my laptop and the only thing I have find about external GPUs are those ones that are really expensive
But by the time you factor in a screen a psu and it not being portable anymore you could just buy a whole better used pc for the similar money and sell the laptop for a little more budget@@kwazhims3lf
Finally someone made this cheap riser, I think this riser is the same as EXP GDC, the logic is the same but I've been looking for a review of this riser for a long time, and it only appears in 2023. This video is very useful, this can be a cheap alternative to old laptops. Unfortunately, I'm still afraid to try because of an unexpected error 😂
Nice external GPU mod. Is it using just x1 lanes as I think you said previous device did? Seems even more impressive if so. Wonder if there's a way you can use more lanes somehow
Oculink is the way to go, I recently modded my Steam Deck and added an external RX 7600 GPU, the difference is night and day. The Oculink kit only costs $36 on Amazon, it allows me to run Diablo4 at 1440p high settings and still gets 90+ fps. After seeing how good the Deck works, I'm getting another kit for an old laptop, it's just amazing.
Do you know the biggest problem with laptops?? Their CPU Thermals when on load. Its never been a GPU, though GPU are less powerful, CPU are the least useful when it comes to load. Wish "EXTERNAL CPU" can be supported instead of GPUs. All laptops can run at 98-99% GPU at comfortable thermals, but none laptop can sustain at even 49% CPU load. If "External CPUs" can be supported, then i will call it a technology.
Cool video! I wanted to do the same to my laptop! Can you please test how the performances change when using engineering software? For example: cad; matlab/octave; Nastram; Pastran/Femap etc... Thank you very much :)
I did this with my Apple Macbook Pro 2015 and it worked very well with a GTX1660ti running windows 10. Only problem was that it would only start up successfully with the GPU working 1 in 5 to 10 times so it was not without hiccups .... The E-GPU was connected trough Thunderbolt port.
Hmm should i do this i got a compaq cq58 (which literally has the same layout as this laptop on vid) that has 8gb ram, 240gb ssd (i can upgrade later) and currently a celeron b830 which i will upgrade to a core i5 3230m So should i get a gtx 750 a psu (also the switch) and the pcie adapter? Edit 10 months later: my laptop has hm70 chip set which i didnt know for the past 10 months until recently so if i used a core series cpu it will shutdown after 30 mins, this laptop only supports pentium and celerons, i am currently waiting for a pwntou 2020m to arrive and hope it works good
They would run a lot better even through the MiniPCIe slot. It will hit a limitation eventually but the GTX 750 is just a real slow card. Will trying something much bigger soon and see how far it will go, might hit CPU limit before the slot though on that old laptop lol
I'd LIKE to use my laptop in a "2-Head" configuration , turning it into something ACTUALLY useful , more than just for gaming . Is there a way in the bios to set it so that it can see BOTH the internal gfx AND the external ? I l know I can plug 2 monitors into the ext card , but if I was to use the INT mon WITH the EXT , I _COULD disconnect the EXT. for portable use ... . I've seen this on other vids here on Y-T , but you were able to simplify the overall install better than most I've seen , so I thot I would ask . Thoughts ?
Can I use a RTX 3060 Ti with a Dell Latitude E6430s (Intel i5 - 3320M Ivy Bridge + 12 GB DDR3 RAM) If so, how much of its potential can be used? P.S: Can I use my WWAN port instead of my WLAN wifi port?
You can use any card, it will just be limited so I would buy the card you want for the desktop otherwise you will limit yourself later. Will it work in the WWAN port? No idea, depends if they are PCIe or not.
I have issues. I have a Hp probook 4530S and ive used 3 different risers and multiple gpus and i cant get any of them to work. (Risers used, EXP-GDC beast 8.4 with mini pcie, mini pcie to pcie 16x riser amd the mining riser shown in the video. Gpus i used, AMD HD5450 1gb, GTX 970, GTX 1070, GTX 1080, GTX Titan X (maxwell). Soon il try a GTX 750ti 4gb maybe it will work or not. Was told by the riser sellers i need a modded bios which doesmt exist
Hey, I bought the mini PCIe adaptor, but I believe I have an M.2 wifi card, not mini PCIe. I can’t find anything online, do you know where I can find what I need for this? I already have the part that connects to the graphics card and the USB cable, I just need the part that connects to the M.2 slot. Thanks a lot, sorry about this, I’m just really determined to make this work.
We did this conversion in a much newer video here: ruclips.net/video/mG_JQQFww6Q/видео.html not sure if you can just buy the M.2 end piece but you should be able to buy an adaptor that works from either Ebay or Amazon. Just search for M.2 to PCIe adaptor.
@@TechLabUK Ok, thanks! Just to make sure I don't buy the wrong thing again, does it matter what type of M.2? The wifi card that's in the slot in my computer appears to be M.2 key E, but pretty much everything I can find online is M.2 key M. Or from PCIe to M.2 instead of the other way around.
Drop the resolution to 1366x768 or 1280x720 to get better performance. You might have to drop it down to 1024x768 or simply try lighter weight games that aren't as CPU and GPU intensive. There are plenty of games to run on that old laptop.
Great video. Ive known of this but its awesome to see it done step by step. Wanted to do this to my 13 year old lenovo AIO. They made great stuff back in the day. Wanted to keep it all internal and add one of those mxm cards but this looks much easier, cheaper and more effective. Thanks
Tempted to do this with my 13 year old Probook 4430s as well lol I've pretty much maxed out the internals in it, and the GPU is the main holdback right now
@@TechLabUK Online it seemed to be the same one you had, however when I took out the wifi card, the card in the adaptor was quite a bit thicker and didn't fit, so instead, i removed the card from the adaptor (it was connected via a USB 3.0 cable) and connected that to my laptop.
@@andrewmarin3941 I very much doubt that would work. There are a few different types of adaptors on the end, some for Wifi Slots, some for M.2 slots. There's a card adaptor for pretty much every port that uses PCIe as a standard.
@@TechLabUK This is what I got......description seemed the same not sure how i ended up with the wrong one..... Here are a couple of photos (green is my wifi card, as you can see the adapter is thicker) drive.google.com/file/d/1YhwNajX2nEoxCoHkN0MXZDanSRDtW7nm/view?usp=sharing drive.google.com/file/d/1jO8XhosbZxEr_NxCvGYMuRFNKg-GzjOV/view?usp=sharing
@@TechLabUK All right, thanks. For the record, here are pics of the adaptor that I got. Green is my wifi card, as you can see, the adaptor is thicker and doesn't fit into the slot. drive.google.com/file/d/1YhwNajX2nEoxCoHkN0MXZDanSRDtW7nm/view?usp=sharing drive.google.com/file/d/1jO8XhosbZxEr_NxCvGYMuRFNKg-GzjOV/view?usp=sharing
The question is, who's this setup being targeted at?! You'd have to be so poor not to aford any better, but at that point of poverty, you don't need stuff like this anyway. Even if you donate it to a poor kid, the same logic applies, besides, they won't know anything about this complicate rig you just made. But to donate it, you'd need a laptop, the cable, the gpu, the hdmi cable and the external tv/ monitor. Right, ... This should've been tested out with a more modern setup. You have like a 5yo generic mid level gaming laptop that you already used like a desktop, to an external monitor....and don't want to spend 1000 or more on a new one when you know laptops nowadays are a joke, so you ok buying just the gpu the riser cable and the psu. This is what should be tested and see how much you need to spend and what level of a graphics card to buy in order to make a signifficant improvement to compensante not buying a complete system in an mATX setup. Again, you're using the old gaming laptop as a desktop, mobility goes out the door. And even that is no longer an issue with the lunchbox cases of 12-15l for matx or 8-10l for itx (which is vrtually on par with a 17.3" gaming laptop as mobility goes
dell e6230 not working with GTX960 2gb graphic card, system show the actually connected and with no error but cannot use the device, do not attempt this is money and time wasting
i have an acer nitro 5 2022 3050 laptop, and it as a thunderbolt usb c port, idk abt a pci slot which it might. i also got a spare 1660 super i want to try and get it working with
Thank you so much! I've been looking into rebuilding an old netbook with a broken screen into a headless games console of sorts, and i've been looking into these adapters... but all the other youtube channels only use these super expensive GPU docks and i had no idea if these small adapters actually work, or if they are just useless mining hardware.
Very nicely explained, I just had an doubt. I have an dell inspiron 3585 and I regularly carry it around for college ,etc. Is it possible that I can use two usb connections instead of one? ie one usb from the wifi card slot and other from the gpu. there will be a connection using the existing usb port (it will be removed as it is a independent board and will install the usb from the wifi card). please let me know. thankyou!
I have a gpu from an old pc ( gtx 1060 ) and have a lenovo thinkpad x260 ( without usb c port ). I am 15 yr okd and need a cheap m.2 egpu dock ( not from amazon ) as I cantafford to buy a dock more than $20. My allowance is very limited abd barely get like a dollar per day.
What is the bandwidth that this passthrough cable can transmit? Is it any better than Thunderbolt 3 & 4 speeds? USB 3.0 is nowhere near enough bandwidth. Using a Thunderbolt port will out perform USB 3.0. This is a where external graphics will really be a game changer in due course, when Thunderbolt speed reaches pcie 4.0 x16 speed. 4.0 x16 speed is 32GB/s or 256Gb/s. Thunderbolt 3 and 4 are 40Gb/s, 1/6.4 of the bandwidth. Sorry to be a party pooper. But on the brighter side, this will probably be not that far away. SSDs over thunderbolt 3 and 4 are already mind blowing compared to old MFM hard drives, they were on a par with 3.5" floppy drives. GPU over Thunderbolt is a still a significant improvement over onboard video, but it nevertheless a big performance bottleneck. The bandwidth of Thunderbolt 3 & 4 going from video card to monitor is adequate for driving 4K @120Hz, but not for getting the raw data from the CPU to the video card. I have used a USB C 10Gb/s to install linux on an external SSD, and the performance was excellent. Given that the actual performance of a laptop with external graphics only about 50% slower than the same card inside the case, would suggest to me that Thunderbolt 5 external enclusres when they hit the market should make this absolutelt worthwhile. www.techadvisor.com/article/1516892/thunderbolt-5-release-date-speed-features-compatibility.html
A perfect example of why everytime a new thunderbolt gen comes out and people scream yes egpu time ....only for it to perform similar to a midrange gpu but cost more and you need to drag a gpu screen and power supply. Imsted of egpu 3060 for 1000$ you can buy a 12700h 4070 laptop for 1000$ new
I'm wondering if this also works if the graphics card in my laptop does not work? I have a Asus TUF F15 laptop and last year, it stopped working. A friend who knows a little more about computers than I do, told me that I'd have to replace the motherboard as well as the CPU and GPU. He also told me I wouldn't be able to do it myself, and that he wouldn't even touch it. From what I know, it can become quite costly to get this done by a professional (although the laptop was quite expensive and so I think it'd still be worth it). But after watching this video, I'm wondering if this set up is possible for my laptop. I really don't want to give up on it just yet...
What can i do with this... got a great deal on z2 mini 5 with no hard drive, and 16gigs ram so I'm going to put 32 gigs in and a 2tb ssd, has i7 10700 10th gen, but is there anyway to add external gpu to handle lets say 75% all games. It has dimm2 slot, nvme/sata extra with a ss10 and lighting bolt, 3 display ports, and i think 4 10 ss usb and either net, Bluetooth,wifi etc pretty sure i cant basic game with it NVIDIA Quadro P620 4 GB GDDR5 but thought id ask, since i need to buy a hard drive first i wamted to ask options.
Please someone help I am having zotac gt1030 2gb and it doesnt require additional power like 6pin and its power consumption from pcie slot is 30 watt so if i put it in adaptor i think it is given 75w i think so should it blast
Thanks for the informative video. Btw can you use the power supply to power a laptop? because mine doesnt have battery and i dont want a lot of plugs in the socket. If its possible please tell me how to do it of you're ok with it.
Pointless experiment. Cpu amd ram are inadequate that thing is so old it probably still has a mechanical drive. Modern laptops have both gpu and cpu on one board so doing this wont work, and doing this on an older laptop is a waste of time and money, as the results will always be poor. Just get an older used pc, u can get a gtx 980 ti rig for around $300 these days.
The future of super HUGE GPU and connecting... ... RTX 3060ti is big enough, I don't wanna have RTX 4090 to bend and destroy my motherboard or so huge it'd suffocate hot air gaps... ... Either they figure out how to make GPUs smaller, or yeah... ... external connections will be the way to go. GPU casings will be the future... ...
i just don't want gpus to be huge. the 4080 and 90 cross a line that should never be crossed. we need to go back to 200w high end gpus with 150w mid end
Hi what is the transfer bandwidth with the pie to usb co configuration I’m trying to get the doc with the HDMI and I’m not sure if HDMI or the USB connection is better thanks
Lol you can get an encosure and connect the e-GPU to usb-c 😂 same as you connect a dock really the m.2 port where the wi-fi reside has just 1 lane and if its under pci-e v2 that will get 4GT/s better the slot where it reside the nvme disk that has 4 lanes
Terrific. I'm believing. I think I may even have a better solution using the dvd/cd port and power from it's sata power. I'm not sure if this will make D2r playable on my satellite L875 but I'm willing to try. However, I'm worried about not having internet in case my system needs to search for drivers. I was reticent because I have a 3rd gen i3 but, I'm upgrading to a 3rd gen i7 which is a 1ghz jump with the same power load.
I don’t see how it’s easy or cheap. You need to buy a graphics card, this adapter, a PSU and a monitor or maybe plug it into a tv if you have one. Maybe the author thinks that everyone who can only afford a cheap laptop have tons of PSUs lying around, but sorry it’s not the case. And if you have money for PSUs, Monitors and whatnot you can just buy a used gaming laptop or previous generation one.
this mods are shit. the laptop bios never understands the riser as a gpu, and you need to do a driver bypass as most of the bioses for laptop are locked and programmed for only one gpu. i had it and it didnt work good.
Big thank you to everyone for watching the video and commenting below. We have updated the description of this video to include more details on what you will need to jump an external PSU as requested.
Dumb question, Is it required to connect the HDMI in order for it to work, or is that optional?
I'd LIKE to use my laptop in a "2-Head" configuration , turning it into something ACTUALLY useful , more than just for gaming . Is there a way in the bios to set it so that it can see BOTH the internal gfx AND the external ? I l know I can plug 2 monitors into the ext card , but if I was to use the INT mon WITH the EXT , I _COULD disconnect the EXT. for portable use ... . I've seen this on other vids here on Y-T , but you were able to simplify the overall install better than most I've seen , so I thot I would ask . Thoughts ?
@@LA.20 - If you're asking to connect the HDMI to the laptop HDMI port , with the internal GFX disabled , the answer to THAT would be no . IF you're asking about connecting the HDMI cable to the EXT Vid , then I'd guess the answer to THAT would be YES , no matter which other port you'd used instead . It WOULD be interesting to see if you could connect 2 monitors to the external card , altho in it's native desktop configuration you can , so I'm guessing there wouldn't be a problem with _that_ here . I'm interested in running BOTH the internal GFX _and_ the EXTERNAL , so that I can run it as a native 2-Head unit without having to purchase a 2nd External Monitor ... .
@@chuckintexas Thank you very much for answering really appreciate it. Looks like my problem is the card itself as it won't even display anything despite being connected to the monitor, and it does not have a blue led light on, cause apparently RX580 should have a blue light present to indicate it that all connections are working. Already talked with the seller they are going to replace it.
well, he uses the cheaper version of egpu riser, it's made for mining bit coin so the manufacturer didn't tweak it for different purpos, but there's a special variant of this which is the expgdc beast, it will use your laptop's display and doesn't need external monitor.
Very cool video!
It actually brings back what PC gaming was (for me) always about. A bit of tinkering and achieving results with creative thinking.
Nowadays it seems it's all about splurging funds for the latest and greatest - yet this shows that lots can be done with older hardware.
Thanks for posting!
PC Gaming will always be about the tinkering for me. Yeah, you can splurge and that's fine for a high end stable system but I have so many systems about to tinker with too it keeps things fun.
It's stioll 100$ about tinkering. It's just that the things to tinker with have cam up in price. That and a lot more people have been buying pre builts.
Older hardware= no support
Nowadays everyone wants to run at 4k @ 200fps, meanwhile games are incomplete, full of bugs and boring as hell
Well I have 5900 x and Rx 6800 and have no plan to upgrade anytime soon. I did just upgrade from four 8 gig sticks of 3200 mhz DDR 4 to two 16 gig sticks of 4000 mhz DDR 4 and that will do it for now. Ram got cheaper. especially when you look at my video's i upload. Things a beast.
I Livestream A LOT and have a 4k camera. My Livestream video quality it garbage so this is inspiring to make my streams exponentially better.
This is just proof that you can Jerry rig anything on a budget for PC building. This is especially true if you’re looking to get into DCS and you don’t know where to start. You can literally use your dad’s old compact desktop and turn it into a gaming PC or SIM rig for less than $500 if you know where to look.
Interesting
I just realized that in my computer from 2009 i used the gtx750. I didnt knew you could still use it today. Haha :) great video
They are as good as they were back then. Modern games no chance but there are 1000s of older games that will work just fine.
This is so helpful. I don't have the money to get a PC, all I can do is this. I don't take my laptop anywhere bc the battery is basically gone. So, if it's already staying on my desk all the time, might as well make it good.
Having to use an external display kinda defeated the idea of this set-up for me.
You can use the internal screen but loss fps
One time I tried to take my wifi card out of my elitebook 8440p to try and put it in a disassembled motherboard then I accidentally cut the wifi wires so because my elitebook 8440p is my main laptop with Linux on it I need to put the router behind the lid of the laptop to work (edit:also why i wanna buy a lan cable and a egpu dock)
my laptop off after i put the gpu
even better, an old optiplex with core i5 is probably cheaper then that adapter on ebay. some go for 50 dollars you just need to put your own ssd in it or hard drive
going to try . i have an asus g75 with a geforce 580. It actually plays games quite well but it is a 580..... i have a gtx 1080 just laying around so going to see 🙂
Hi, amazing video! I'd like to ask, do you get the gpu's full performance or is it somehow bottlenecked?
The GPU would be limited due to the 1x PCIe but the effect all depend son the GPU really.
is it possible to connect back to the screen on the laptop?
Seems like if that can be done then it would make this creation even greater.
I believe their are some ways of doing it but I have never really tried tbh
The main issue with this setup is that riser is for mining and is PCIe 1x as well as the port on the laptop your plugging to is also 1x. Your bottlenecking the video card like crazy. There is better m.2 pcie x4 versions of that riser that make more sense but wont work on a laptop like that as you need an open m.2 port that is wired at x4
Awesome!
I have a hp 630 notebook and i have tried doing this with an rx 470 but nothing i have done works. The card is not detected so I can't even install the drivers. I used a modded bios because of some "Whitelist" issue with Hp laptops. If possible could I get some info about how to proceed??
Why does my screen go weird colours when I turn my laptop in with everything in
Thanks bro 🙂👍
No problem. hope you get some good gaming out of it.
That's awesome
Hi...Need GPu Rieser for laptop Hp 17 cp-0278cp.....any idea?
I have an HP ryzen 5 pro 2500 cpu. Will i get better performance if i add something like gtx 1070 or 1080?
He says h like Stewie says w 😂
Can you connected with a AMD RX 7600 XT 16 GB?
Will this work if there's no external gpu option in bios?
You should retry this with RTX 4090
i wanna do this but i have an dell Monitor that has an built in pc. does it work whit that aswell. the onlything im worried about is the outputs on the GPU... to my built in pc monitor
If it has the right connections inside I am pretty sure it will.
Wait so It doesn't play on the laptop?
Nope, there are a number of videos on RUclips though showing you potential ways of hacking it to get it on the laptop screen but this was more for an experiment of an old laptop being docked.
Hey how can I fix this my EGPU fan is working and when I connected it on HDMI it has no display and my laptop monitor is on supposedly it is working when the EGPU is working it worked yesterday but when I opened it today it doesn't work anymore help please
that's the same laptop i have
Flex this @ Starbucks
dosent the mini pcie slot give out enough power for it?
i searched it showed it dosent need external power
Olm hp650 bu laptop eskiden bende vardı lan roblox oynarken duman çıkmıştı yanmıştı pc aga bee
I remember doing this forever ago, nearly a decade ago, when I didn't have a proper PC yet, but had found the GPU I wanted (Radeon HD 7770) on a really good sale and wouldn't have the money for the other parts for a few more months, so I used it on my crappy laptop to play games for the time being, good times! Remember telling people I had a desktop GPU on my laptop and they were like "how?", because it was such a new concept back then.
For testing how things are detected by Windows by the way, I prefer to use good old dxdiag, since it can show you if the card specs are also recognized correctly, not just the model.
If your laptop doesnt have a ethernet cable, don't get your hopes down, you can buy a wifi usb adapter.
Read my mind, was wondering if someone would notice ngl. They're quite cheap to buy, even the better ones.
You can use a different raiser like ADT-Link or others which you can connect to your M.2 pcie slot which has 4 lanes instead of 1 for the mini pcie making it a lot faster.
You should test this and try different gpu generation for example 3000 series and overkill 4000 series to see if there are any difference going overkill. Would be a great content for you.
Yes, we have been looking into the M.2 slot versions recently as we have a system in which could utilise it. Will take a look at something higher end in terms of GPU for it.
@@TechLabUK Please do! Would be interesting to see how a 4070 for example would perform.
Thanks for making the video. It would be better if you could test the bottleneck of the riser. For the example, is 1050 ti run the same in the egpu setup and in the real pc setup (pcie 3.0x16) ?
maybe the performance is comparable to laptop built 1050ti which is less powerful to it's counterpart desktop 1050ti.
@@LeoNux-um7tg No it will be bottlenecked like hell, maybe a 3 fps "improvement" to the 750
You should take it to the next level and convert this into a retro game cabinet. Mount the laptop internals inside the cabinet, attach the GPU like you have shown, get an old CRT monitor and create a good old arcade cabinet. The system will be plenty powerful enough for old arcade game emulation and you'd have a nice conversation starter.
That’s a great idea, just replaced this laptop as well so it’s spare 😀
So, I'll just buy an external graphics when I'm too broke to buy a better laptop?
It's worth the deal I guess.
I'd be curious to see the results with something like a rtx 3060.
Would be an interesting experiment.
do u heard about bottlenecking ??
@@TechLabUK U need to upgrade ur cpu... Running a 780 with a 2nd gen i3 and ddr3 ram.. Using this with a better laptop would be interesting to see how much the GPU is bottlenecked by the network card port
@@joemogley we used a GTX 750 in the video and you are right. Our laptop cpu sucks but it keeps running so we keep using it lol
@@TechLabUK "Our laptop CPU sucks" laughs in AMD E-300😂
This video is perfect for me, I've been looking for a way to upgrade my laptop and the only thing I have find about external GPUs are those ones that are really expensive
? wat?
... just found a rog strix 1070 ti for just over $200CAD ebay..
... that will rape the ever living crap out of that POS galax 750 he was using
But by the time you factor in a screen a psu and it not being portable anymore you could just buy a whole better used pc for the similar money and sell the laptop for a little more budget@@kwazhims3lf
easier just buying a gaming laptop from SCAN.
Its to bad laptops dont have expansion ports like they did in the day of old.
Great idea endless GPU possibilities now!
Tis an awesome mod tbh. Can bring a whole new life to an old Laptop or MiniPC.
Finally someone made this cheap riser, I think this riser is the same as EXP GDC, the logic is the same but I've been looking for a review of this riser for a long time, and it only appears in 2023. This video is very useful, this can be a cheap alternative to old laptops. Unfortunately, I'm still afraid to try because of an unexpected error 😂
Nice external GPU mod. Is it using just x1 lanes as I think you said previous device did? Seems even more impressive if so. Wonder if there's a way you can use more lanes somehow
Believe they are 1x but on lower end / older GPUs we have never noticed enough of a difference especially with what you are playing on them.
@@TechLabUK Ah cool, seems to work pretty well yeah. Nice.
@@rugby187gaming Worked straight away and we also realised how well the GTX 750 still performed which was nice lol
Oculink is the way to go, I recently modded my Steam Deck and added an external RX 7600 GPU, the difference is night and day. The Oculink kit only costs $36 on Amazon, it allows me to run Diablo4 at 1440p high settings and still gets 90+ fps. After seeing how good the Deck works, I'm getting another kit for an old laptop, it's just amazing.
does it support rtx 4070
im thinking of buying one, for cad modeling on laptop, while i save up for a pc build, where it will be used afterwards
@@darthtrump4428 Deck only works with AMD gpus.
Click bait. Did he turn his computer into a gaming beast?
Do you know the biggest problem with laptops?? Their CPU Thermals when on load.
Its never been a GPU, though GPU are less powerful, CPU are the least useful when it comes to load.
Wish "EXTERNAL CPU" can be supported instead of GPUs.
All laptops can run at 98-99% GPU at comfortable thermals, but none laptop can sustain at even 49% CPU load.
If "External CPUs" can be supported, then i will call it a technology.
Cool video! I wanted to do the same to my laptop! Can you please test how the performances change when using engineering software? For example: cad; matlab/octave; Nastram; Pastran/Femap etc...
Thank you very much :)
If they do GPU-assisted calculations the improvement is noteworthy.
At that point the laptop is only there for the cpu and games lol
I did this with my Apple Macbook Pro 2015 and it worked very well with a GTX1660ti running windows 10. Only problem was that it would only start up successfully with the GPU working 1 in 5 to 10 times so it was not without hiccups .... The E-GPU was connected trough Thunderbolt port.
Hmm should i do this i got a compaq cq58 (which literally has the same layout as this laptop on vid) that has 8gb ram, 240gb ssd (i can upgrade later) and currently a celeron b830 which i will upgrade to a core i5 3230m
So should i get a gtx 750 a psu (also the switch) and the pcie adapter?
Edit 10 months later: my laptop has hm70 chip set which i didnt know for the past 10 months until recently so if i used a core series cpu it will shutdown after 30 mins, this laptop only supports pentium and celerons, i am currently waiting for a pwntou 2020m to arrive and hope it works good
Thats not very cheap cause u need a seperate display and power supply. But its cheaper than building a tower from scratch
Also a lot cheaper than a £500 eGPU enclosure.
Separate display?
Hey bro, i have hp probook 450 G4. Will this work on it?
Do I need to put the cable on Wi-Fi card ? I have same port as wifi card port near it?
Sir is there any way that we can use graphic card without any external monitor
Not that I am aware of unless you get one of those expensive thunderbolt enclosures.
Thanks sir
Nice improvement on Tomb Raider, would Stray and other newer games run better with a better gpu or would it be limited on the speed of the pcie slot?
They would run a lot better even through the MiniPCIe slot. It will hit a limitation eventually but the GTX 750 is just a real slow card. Will trying something much bigger soon and see how far it will go, might hit CPU limit before the slot though on that old laptop lol
I'd LIKE to use my laptop in a "2-Head" configuration , turning it into something ACTUALLY useful , more than just for gaming . Is there a way in the bios to set it so that it can see BOTH the internal gfx AND the external ? I l know I can plug 2 monitors into the ext card , but if I was to use the INT mon WITH the EXT , I _COULD disconnect the EXT. for portable use ... . I've seen this on other vids here on Y-T , but you were able to simplify the overall install better than most I've seen , so I thot I would ask . Thoughts ?
Can I use a RTX 3060 Ti with a Dell Latitude E6430s (Intel i5 - 3320M Ivy Bridge + 12 GB DDR3 RAM)
If so, how much of its potential can be used?
P.S: Can I use my WWAN port instead of my WLAN wifi port?
Or, what is the next best card I can use?
(I want to get a good card as I am planning to build a desktop in a year or so and use that same card)
You can use any card, it will just be limited so I would buy the card you want for the desktop otherwise you will limit yourself later. Will it work in the WWAN port? No idea, depends if they are PCIe or not.
@@TechLabUK Thanks a lot! :)
Can I add an eGPU with RX 7600XT on my nvidia 4060 laptop ?
I can't see why not, as long as you can get an external riser to work any GPU should run from it.
How would you do this if the graphcis card also needed external power?
@@andrewmarin3941 Plug it into the PSU.
Coudn't you just connect it to the USB/USB-C port insteead?
@@andrewmarin3941 No, the usb cable is only extending the PCIe port.
my laptop is trash! I need a new one but because of financial issues i cant buy one, i hate it
But can you afford the external GPU?
Wonderful, could this be used to fine tune a neural network?
I have issues.
I have a Hp probook 4530S and ive used 3 different risers and multiple gpus and i cant get any of them to work.
(Risers used, EXP-GDC beast 8.4 with mini pcie, mini pcie to pcie 16x riser amd the mining riser shown in the video.
Gpus i used, AMD HD5450 1gb, GTX 970, GTX 1070, GTX 1080, GTX Titan X (maxwell). Soon il try a GTX 750ti 4gb maybe it will work or not.
Was told by the riser sellers i need a modded bios which doesmt exist
Hey, I bought the mini PCIe adaptor, but I believe I have an M.2 wifi card, not mini PCIe. I can’t find anything online, do you know where I can find what I need for this? I already have the part that connects to the graphics card and the USB cable, I just need the part that connects to the M.2 slot. Thanks a lot, sorry about this, I’m just really determined to make this work.
We did this conversion in a much newer video here: ruclips.net/video/mG_JQQFww6Q/видео.html not sure if you can just buy the M.2 end piece but you should be able to buy an adaptor that works from either Ebay or Amazon. Just search for M.2 to PCIe adaptor.
@@TechLabUK Ok, thanks! Just to make sure I don't buy the wrong thing again, does it matter what type of M.2? The wifi card that's in the slot in my computer appears to be M.2 key E, but pretty much everything I can find online is M.2 key M. Or from PCIe to M.2 instead of the other way around.
@@andrewmarin3941 I don't fully know tbh without seeing the actual port you are trying to use tbh
@@TechLabUK I'm going to send a picture, just a moment.
@@TechLabUK I'm not sure why, every comment I try to post gets removed a few seconds later.
Drop the resolution to 1366x768 or 1280x720 to get better performance. You might have to drop it down to 1024x768 or simply try lighter weight games that aren't as CPU and GPU intensive. There are plenty of games to run on that old laptop.
Great video. Ive known of this but its awesome to see it done step by step. Wanted to do this to my 13 year old lenovo AIO. They made great stuff back in the day. Wanted to keep it all internal and add one of those mxm cards but this looks much easier, cheaper and more effective. Thanks
Tempted to do this with my 13 year old Probook 4430s as well lol
I've pretty much maxed out the internals in it, and the GPU is the main holdback right now
@@Iron_Sights99 yep I'm going for it soon. My old trusty AIO runs great and is still real snappy. Will comment with my results.
I bought the wrong apdapter by accident, so instead of the wifi card port, it's connected to the USB 3.0 port. Should it still work?
Well I don't know what adaptor you have but if it's like the one in the video then I doubt it as USB is a different standard to PCIe.
@@TechLabUK Online it seemed to be the same one you had, however when I took out the wifi card, the card in the adaptor was quite a bit thicker and didn't fit, so instead, i removed the card from the adaptor (it was connected via a USB 3.0 cable) and connected that to my laptop.
@@andrewmarin3941 I very much doubt that would work. There are a few different types of adaptors on the end, some for Wifi Slots, some for M.2 slots. There's a card adaptor for pretty much every port that uses PCIe as a standard.
@@TechLabUK This is what I got......description seemed the same not sure how i ended up with the wrong one.....
Here are a couple of photos (green is my wifi card, as you can see the adapter is thicker)
drive.google.com/file/d/1YhwNajX2nEoxCoHkN0MXZDanSRDtW7nm/view?usp=sharing
drive.google.com/file/d/1jO8XhosbZxEr_NxCvGYMuRFNKg-GzjOV/view?usp=sharing
@@TechLabUK All right, thanks. For the record, here are pics of the adaptor that I got. Green is my wifi card, as you can see, the adaptor is thicker and doesn't fit into the slot.
drive.google.com/file/d/1YhwNajX2nEoxCoHkN0MXZDanSRDtW7nm/view?usp=sharing
drive.google.com/file/d/1jO8XhosbZxEr_NxCvGYMuRFNKg-GzjOV/view?usp=sharing
The question is, who's this setup being targeted at?!
You'd have to be so poor not to aford any better, but at that point of poverty, you don't need stuff like this anyway.
Even if you donate it to a poor kid, the same logic applies, besides, they won't know anything about this complicate rig you just made.
But to donate it, you'd need a laptop, the cable, the gpu, the hdmi cable and the external tv/ monitor.
Right,
...
This should've been tested out with a more modern setup.
You have like a 5yo generic mid level gaming laptop that you already used like a desktop, to an external monitor....and don't want to spend 1000 or more on a new one when you know laptops nowadays are a joke, so you ok buying just the gpu the riser cable and the psu.
This is what should be tested and see how much you need to spend and what level of a graphics card to buy in order to make a signifficant improvement to compensante not buying a complete system in an mATX setup.
Again, you're using the old gaming laptop as a desktop, mobility goes out the door.
And even that is no longer an issue with the lunchbox cases of 12-15l for matx or 8-10l for itx (which is vrtually on par with a 17.3" gaming laptop as mobility goes
dell e6230 not working with GTX960 2gb graphic card, system show the actually connected and with no error but cannot use the device, do not attempt this is money and time wasting
i have an acer nitro 5 2022 3050 laptop, and it as a thunderbolt usb c port, idk abt a pci slot which it might. i also got a spare 1660 super i want to try and get it working with
Thank you so much! I've been looking into rebuilding an old netbook with a broken screen into a headless games console of sorts, and i've been looking into these adapters... but all the other youtube channels only use these super expensive GPU docks and i had no idea if these small adapters actually work, or if they are just useless mining hardware.
Very nicely explained, I just had an doubt.
I have an dell inspiron 3585 and I regularly carry it around for college ,etc.
Is it possible that I can use two usb connections instead of one? ie one usb from the wifi card slot and other from the gpu. there will be a connection using the existing usb port (it will be removed as it is a independent board and will install the usb from the wifi card). please let me know.
thankyou!
It should work, this was an idea of ours to install a mounted usb for such :)
@@TechLabUK Thankyou, will surely try
will there be any performance drops?
Thats really a gtx 550ti. Just hadnth3 firmware changed to think its a htx 750 ti. I jave the 3xact one from ali express. Lol
I have a gpu from an old pc ( gtx 1060 ) and have a lenovo thinkpad x260 ( without usb c port ). I am 15 yr okd and need a cheap m.2 egpu dock ( not from amazon ) as I cantafford to buy a dock more than $20. My allowance is very limited abd barely get like a dollar per day.
What is the bandwidth that this passthrough cable can transmit? Is it any better than Thunderbolt 3 & 4 speeds? USB 3.0 is nowhere near enough bandwidth. Using a Thunderbolt port will out perform USB 3.0. This is a where external graphics will really be a game changer in due course, when Thunderbolt speed reaches pcie 4.0 x16 speed. 4.0 x16 speed is 32GB/s or 256Gb/s. Thunderbolt 3 and 4 are 40Gb/s, 1/6.4 of the bandwidth. Sorry to be a party pooper. But on the brighter side, this will probably be not that far away. SSDs over thunderbolt 3 and 4 are already mind blowing compared to old MFM hard drives, they were on a par with 3.5" floppy drives. GPU over Thunderbolt is a still a significant improvement over onboard video, but it nevertheless a big performance bottleneck. The bandwidth of Thunderbolt 3 & 4 going from video card to monitor is adequate for driving 4K @120Hz, but not for getting the raw data from the CPU to the video card. I have used a USB C 10Gb/s to install linux on an external SSD, and the performance was excellent. Given that the actual performance of a laptop with external graphics only about 50% slower than the same card inside the case, would suggest to me that Thunderbolt 5 external enclusres when they hit the market should make this absolutelt worthwhile.
www.techadvisor.com/article/1516892/thunderbolt-5-release-date-speed-features-compatibility.html
If you think about it you could probbly build a pc out of this , A desktop pc ✨️✨️
A perfect example of why everytime a new thunderbolt gen comes out and people scream yes egpu time ....only for it to perform similar to a midrange gpu but cost more and you need to drag a gpu screen and power supply. Imsted of egpu 3060 for 1000$ you can buy a 12700h 4070 laptop for 1000$ new
I'm wondering if this also works if the graphics card in my laptop does not work? I have a Asus TUF F15 laptop and last year, it stopped working. A friend who knows a little more about computers than I do, told me that I'd have to replace the motherboard as well as the CPU and GPU. He also told me I wouldn't be able to do it myself, and that he wouldn't even touch it. From what I know, it can become quite costly to get this done by a professional (although the laptop was quite expensive and so I think it'd still be worth it). But after watching this video, I'm wondering if this set up is possible for my laptop. I really don't want to give up on it just yet...
What can i do with this... got a great deal on z2 mini 5 with no hard drive, and 16gigs ram so I'm going to put 32 gigs in and a 2tb ssd, has i7 10700 10th gen, but is there anyway to add external gpu to handle lets say 75% all games. It has dimm2 slot, nvme/sata extra with a ss10 and lighting bolt, 3 display ports, and i think 4 10 ss usb and either net, Bluetooth,wifi etc pretty sure i cant basic game with it NVIDIA Quadro P620 4 GB GDDR5 but thought id ask, since i need to buy a hard drive first i wamted to ask options.
Please someone help
I am having zotac gt1030 2gb and it doesnt require additional power like 6pin and its power consumption from pcie slot is 30 watt so if i put it in adaptor i think it is given 75w i think so should it blast
Thanks for the informative video. Btw can you use the power supply to power a laptop? because mine doesnt have battery and i dont want a lot of plugs in the socket. If its possible please tell me how to do it of you're ok with it.
Do we need to jump start the psu? Or it will just turn on simultaneously with the laptop?
You will need to jump start it. You can buy connectors for the 24Pin with a switch on then to do this. We hacked our PSU for testing things.
Pointless experiment. Cpu amd ram are inadequate that thing is so old it probably still has a mechanical drive. Modern laptops have both gpu and cpu on one board so doing this wont work, and doing this on an older laptop is a waste of time and money, as the results will always be poor. Just get an older used pc, u can get a gtx 980 ti rig for around $300 these days.
The future of super HUGE GPU and connecting... ... RTX 3060ti is big enough, I don't wanna have RTX 4090 to bend and destroy my motherboard or so huge it'd suffocate hot air gaps... ...
Either they figure out how to make GPUs smaller, or yeah... ... external connections will be the way to go. GPU casings will be the future... ...
i just don't want gpus to be huge. the 4080 and 90 cross a line that should never be crossed. we need to go back to 200w high end gpus with 150w mid end
Hi what is the transfer bandwidth with the pie to usb co configuration I’m trying to get the doc with the HDMI and I’m not sure if HDMI or the USB connection is better thanks
Will it still work if the laptop already has a graphic card??
Can't see why it wouldn't, you can use multiple GPUs in desktops.
Lol you can get an encosure and connect the e-GPU to usb-c 😂 same as you connect a dock really the m.2 port where the wi-fi reside has just 1 lane and if its under pci-e v2 that will get 4GT/s better the slot where it reside the nvme disk that has 4 lanes
So basically you built a dektop cpu without the enclosure, and cpu processor from laptop.... xD
The cables can easily be removed right? So the laptop remains portable?
Wonder if there's anything out there that could work with a docking station. I have a thinkpad x250
Terrific. I'm believing. I think I may even have a better solution using the dvd/cd port and power from it's sata power. I'm not sure if this will make D2r playable on my satellite L875 but I'm willing to try. However, I'm worried about not having internet in case my system needs to search for drivers. I was reticent because I have a 3rd gen i3 but, I'm upgrading to a 3rd gen i7 which is a 1ghz jump with the same power load.
Experimentation... love it!
Is there a way for me to use the laptop screen instead of a separate one?(please I don't think I want to buy a monitor 😭😭)
Yea, usually laptops have integrated gpus, and there are ways to "capture" the dedicated gpu to the integrated
im probably getting
a latitude 7480 and i want to get a external gpu and play like gta at school since 16gb ram and i5
Why does every gameing freak think that 60 fps is awesome? When your eyes and human brain can only see a maximum of 34 fps?
how to convert your laptop into a desktop
I don’t see how it’s easy or cheap. You need to buy a graphics card, this adapter, a PSU and a monitor or maybe plug it into a tv if you have one. Maybe the author thinks that everyone who can only afford a cheap laptop have tons of PSUs lying around, but sorry it’s not the case. And if you have money for PSUs, Monitors and whatnot you can just buy a used gaming laptop or previous generation one.
this mods are shit. the laptop bios never understands the riser as a gpu, and you need to do a driver bypass as most of the bioses for laptop are locked and programmed for only one gpu. i had it and it didnt work good.
can you please do another video with external GPU for running local LLMs?
Why not use a more powerful GPU? What are the theoretical limits for thunderbolt 3 anyway?