The NEW Surface Pro + Laptop - First Impressions

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
  • Microsoft Surface Laptop 13.8 and 15 and Surface Pro just launched with the Snapdragon X Elite and Snapdragon X Plus chips.
    Also a look at the Asus Vivobook S15 and Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x Snapdragon Laptops
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  • @brianbuckley5204
    @brianbuckley5204 24 дня назад +3963

    Dave PLEASE test the sleep state behaviors. The most infuriating thing about current Windows laptops is the awful sleep states where it force quits all your apps (yes sleep, not hibernate), and then takes 2 minutes to get fully up and running past all the startup processes even on high end machines. Forget battery life and efficiency, I just want a laptop that's ready to go when I open it.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon 24 дня назад +341

      my experience is the opposite. On my laptop, current Windows standby is super power-hungry, so much so that the fans keep spinning, whereas on all my previous laptops it consumed little to no power in sleep mode. "It evolves, but backwards" meme is perfect for this.

    • @usipho
      @usipho 24 дня назад +42

      ​@@TabalugaDragon mine won't even shut down. If I force it to do so it'll spend up to 10mins booting. So speeding is the only option (and it still consumes around 10% overnight)

    • @marcgtsr
      @marcgtsr 24 дня назад +116

      This is a huge problem with windows, I even considered buying apple, that's how bad it is.

    • @userre85
      @userre85 24 дня назад +23

      You have to fiddle with your power settings in control panel. It allows you to set the maximum capacity at which your CPU/SSD/Fans can run on battery and while plugged in.

    • @Ronniezim
      @Ronniezim 24 дня назад +169

      This really is key. All of my windows machines die if I just close the lid and toss in a bag for a few days.
      My M3 max on the other hand…hadn’t touched in days and battery is essentially exactly where it was last I used it

  • @avocadopictures9706
    @avocadopictures9706 24 дня назад +1047

    Hopefully this is the beginning of quieter Windows laptops that don't blast fans unless they're performing actually heavy tasks.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 23 дня назад +35

      oh it totally is once software catches up which is really the hard part + the fact of windows itself sucks so bad

    • @jairozamora608
      @jairozamora608 23 дня назад +38

      @@JohnSmith-pn2vl No joke, windows 11 being so bad it made me switch to linux and MacOS for my daily driver

    • @elementneon
      @elementneon 23 дня назад +11

      @@JohnSmith-pn2vl software will catch up about a year or 2 after the hardware is release, and new hardware has arrived, which the software wont support.

    • @estiennetaylor1260
      @estiennetaylor1260 23 дня назад +7

      @@jairozamora608 Lol never happened to me.

    • @josephgood2704
      @josephgood2704 23 дня назад +6

      Most processors in the last several generations have no problem with this. 20 chrome tabs, casting an extended 4k screen playing netflix, youtube on laptop screen, and transferred a 120GB folder at the same time with practically no noise on the last couple generations of U processors or HS processors..
      No actually heavy tasks. But also no blasting of fans at all.

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 23 дня назад +234

    Keeping my fingers crossed for good emulation performance, it's time we got efficient, powerful chips at affordable rates.

    • @Ailidan
      @Ailidan 22 дня назад +10

      It's absolutely disgusting how Dave subliminally advertises Lenovo.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 22 дня назад +3

      Seeing its microsoft, and how windows have sucked on every level on surface devices, I doubt it. They are completly incompetent at vertical integration

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@wile123456It's not that they are incompetent at vertical integration, it's that they can't do vertical integration because they don't control the hardware.

    • @EikottXD
      @EikottXD 16 дней назад +2

      ​@@Ailidanhe literally offered another option that had better specs.

    • @Ailidan
      @Ailidan 16 дней назад

      @@EikottXD yeah asians for asians

  • @GAMERGEBITER
    @GAMERGEBITER 24 дня назад +135

    1:01
    This would look 100x better if the upper bezel and the side bezels would be the same width

    • @yannpoco
      @yannpoco 24 дня назад +2

      Agreed

    • @flamingrage100
      @flamingrage100 23 дня назад +8

      Camera and mic on top

    • @amirtorhan2762
      @amirtorhan2762 22 дня назад +3

      Would probably need some type of notch for that

    • @iamlorex4786
      @iamlorex4786 22 дня назад +1

      yeah but, than we ll have a black are where camera is located. Windows isnt ready forthat

    • @yannpoco
      @yannpoco 21 день назад +3

      @@flamingrage100 Dell’s top bezel is thinner than Surface side bezels.

  • @alexanderzhulin3528
    @alexanderzhulin3528 24 дня назад +677

    Keyboard and pen for $450 is definitely not cheaper than before. Insane price for a keyboard.

    • @insainllama
      @insainllama 24 дня назад +118

      Can probably thank Apple for that.

    • @Yzyenthusiast
      @Yzyenthusiast 24 дня назад +60

      @@insainllamawhat do you mean thank Apple? Does Apple control Microsoft pricing??

    • @shinobusuicide
      @shinobusuicide 24 дня назад

      @@Yzyenthusiastyup, no corporation is our friend. Once Microsoft saw apple could get away with these prices they upped them too

    • @LuisCruz-ns3bt
      @LuisCruz-ns3bt 24 дня назад +156

      @@Yzyenthusiastinfluence is the better word

    • @Ok_Mountain_8698
      @Ok_Mountain_8698 24 дня назад +143

      @@YzyenthusiastApple proved that it’s possible and the masses will pay this price

  • @MrCarzo
    @MrCarzo 24 дня назад +122

    Watching Intel slide into irrelevance because they havent innovated in a decade has been such a wild ride.

    • @Guts48
      @Guts48 19 дней назад +8

      AMD as well my friend😔 ARM is the way to go I'm so happy x86 is finally dead

    • @shazidulislam9286
      @shazidulislam9286 18 дней назад +9

      @@Guts48 x86 won't be dead for desktops.

    • @Guts48
      @Guts48 18 дней назад +5

      @@shazidulislam9286 it should be, it's a really old architecture tbh

    • @tinselnathan
      @tinselnathan 18 дней назад +1

      That’s true! I think The snapdragon is the better choice. Ngl

    • @EikottXD
      @EikottXD 16 дней назад +4

      ​@@Guts48try gaming on arm...

  • @AdamConder
    @AdamConder 24 дня назад +155

    I never thought I'd see a Macbook Air with a windows sticker on it.

    • @p.aradise
      @p.aradise 23 дня назад +47

      and they say apple copies lol

    • @LoneWolf-py7ps
      @LoneWolf-py7ps 23 дня назад +26

      @@p.aradise hahahaha apple sheep talking what a great sight to see

    • @Space97.
      @Space97. 23 дня назад +2

      Bro really hahaha 😅

    • @p.aradise
      @p.aradise 23 дня назад +19

      @@LoneWolf-py7ps how am I a sheep when I'm stating facts? don't you think these look a lot like macbooks?

    • @theothernodude3139
      @theothernodude3139 23 дня назад +15

      @@p.aradise Don't try to rationalize with him. It'll be like talking to a brick wall.

  • @harbirsingh7266
    @harbirsingh7266 23 дня назад +17

    If these ARM chips can emulate x86 as good as they say, the Microsoft Surface would become a better product than the iPad Pro since it'll actually run on a capable desktop OS.

    • @Johnmims65
      @Johnmims65 20 часов назад

      I returned my ipad pro and pre ordered the oled surface pro

  • @Shin_Kil
    @Shin_Kil 24 дня назад +358

    My first RUclips subscription was to Dave2D around 8 years ago, and I am more amazed at how he hasn't aged at all since I first started watching his videos.

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu 24 дня назад +48

      Asian gene + men usually age better + fame + wealth + taking care of ur self

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar 24 дня назад +21

      + L + ratio

    • @AltraHapi
      @AltraHapi 24 дня назад +11

      ​@dandansfu how does fame not make you age?

    • @Scruffed
      @Scruffed 24 дня назад +1

      ​@@AltraHapiHe clearly didn't see Macaulay Culkin.

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu 24 дня назад +1

      @@AltraHapi unless you act like crazy or too political…etc
      Usually famous ppl get better treatment when they get recognized
      Even if , say Beyoncé , didn’t even try to let ppl know who she is and walked into a restaurant by herself and ppl recognized her , u think she will get same treatment as us? Even if she didn’t request it
      Unless the owner hates her
      In their day to day life they see ppl smiling , being nice and happy to see them , feel honoured to see them and work with them
      And they constantly get confidence boost comments. Just look at the comments. Always mostly positive comments. And well deserved as he put up amazing , good quality videos
      But for us normal ppl , how often we get praise even if we do an excellent job.
      Again you may have haters , you may be tired time to time of being recognized. For sure fame does can have some impact too but for the most part it’s good
      This combine with wealth, connection ..etc
      Stress and positivity ( lack of rejection , always being treated warmly ..etc)
      All help with delayed aging

  • @bearcatpanda
    @bearcatpanda 24 дня назад +630

    I think the biggest challenge for these new Snapdragon X laptops will be the emulation of x86 apps. If Qualcomm can get the emulation to work well, then these laptops could be a game-changer for Windows on ARM.

    • @MathewPanicker1010
      @MathewPanicker1010 24 дня назад +53

      Wouldn't emulation be an os-side i.e. Microsoft's problem?

    • @OnlyCitrus
      @OnlyCitrus 24 дня назад +48

      Windows Emulation is indeed on par and sometimes faster than Apple as tested by Gary. I hope it all goes well.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 24 дня назад +3

      problem is a lot of that is more of a question of windows than arm, but either can screw it up

    • @strawbaria
      @strawbaria 24 дня назад +29

      Emulation is already not too difficult, more difficult would be handling of all the legacy drivers and whatnot which need more than a "simple translation layer".

    • @HouseOfFunQM
      @HouseOfFunQM 24 дня назад +19

      Confirmed that the x86 (and x86_64) applications can use ALL cores on this SoC. M1 emulation was good, but could only use two performance cores at once.
      This potentially makes this much better, however Apple Rosetta2 also transposed the Intel instructions to Armv8 at install time, which gave them a massive performance advantage immediately.

  • @joseph2024
    @joseph2024 23 дня назад +55

    I left windows for the MacBook Air M2, I use that laptop for 2-3 days before charging, have had it since its release, and love it. If widows laptops had done this earlier I’d probably still be with them. Glad to see them finally making a change.

    • @definingslawek4731
      @definingslawek4731 23 дня назад +4

      How do you get 3 days out of it? Do you only use it for like 1-2 hours per day? Like watch a bit of youtube, write a few emails or something, do some shopping? I have an m3 max mbp and charge it 3 times a day but obviously I'm using a power hungry workflow.

    • @joseph2024
      @joseph2024 23 дня назад

      @@definingslawek4731 my workloads aren’t heavy, it’s mostly web, zooms, cloud based software and I’m on it 3-4 hours a day for work. Maybe an hour or 2 for non work.

    • @slimerewoods5766
      @slimerewoods5766 23 дня назад

      @@definingslawek4731 If he only uses it lightly for 4-5 hours a day you can definitely get 2-3 days out of it

    • @retroelectrical
      @retroelectrical 21 день назад +1

      @@definingslawek4731 exactly. Is Joe using the M2 to do light typing? I've never heard of getting three full days of real work on any laptop ever.

    • @frogpetavideo3940
      @frogpetavideo3940 21 день назад +9

      @@retroelectrical i have an m2 air and im a full time highschool student in a school that exclusively does digital work. I use my laptop 5-8 hours a day and charge it once every 2-4 days. i never get below 20 percent EVER

  • @Entertainment-
    @Entertainment- 24 дня назад +99

    0:57 The Surface Laptop Studio from 2 years ago had rounded corners

    • @samblack3446
      @samblack3446 23 дня назад +17

      I use that model daily and the rounded corners in combination with the 3:2 aspect ratio is somehow "easy on the eyes" (if that makes sense). I like it.

    • @anh49
      @anh49 23 дня назад +25

      Also macbooks haven't had rounded screen corners for "over a decade". They only did that starting with notched macbooks

    • @estiennetaylor1260
      @estiennetaylor1260 23 дня назад

      @@samblack3446 I'll take 3:2 any day.

    • @sharonb.9128
      @sharonb.9128 23 дня назад +2

      @@anh49the 2014 MacBook Air is a decade

    • @jonevansauthor
      @jonevansauthor 23 дня назад +7

      Yes and it's absolutely disgusting to cut off perfectly good screen for no reason. No-one wants this and it's not a selling point, just like notches so your phone can be 2mm shorter aren't.

  • @mop0014
    @mop0014 24 дня назад +253

    just make the rounded corners a software feature, the oled has good enough black levels to hide them

    • @pratyakshsinha6292
      @pratyakshsinha6292 24 дня назад +19

      it also compliments the windows 11 apps which have rounded corners.

    • @Entertainment-
      @Entertainment- 24 дня назад +59

      You would be surprised how many “rounded” screens are just rectangular screens with the pixels disabled and a black rounded border painted inbetween the glass and the screen layer.

    • @Optimistas777
      @Optimistas777 24 дня назад

      @@Entertainment-except iphones

    • @iTzNicholas
      @iTzNicholas 24 дня назад +1

      Round corners is super innovative

    • @zakomentare-xt4vk
      @zakomentare-xt4vk 24 дня назад +3

      @@iTzNicholaslol

  • @VaporSprite
    @VaporSprite 24 дня назад +93

    Microsoft pushing for the ARM transition again... Third time's the charm?

    • @netnomad47
      @netnomad47 24 дня назад +30

      They want to catch up with apple

    • @tringuyen7519
      @tringuyen7519 24 дня назад +11

      Snapdragon Elite should be great against the M3 & AMD Hawk-point. But the M4 is already out & AMD is introducing the 12 core Strix-Point in 2 weeks!

    • @adrianstere
      @adrianstere 24 дня назад

      @@tringuyen7519 Amd and Intel are shit. Fan noise and low battery level no matter what products they release. The are light years behind apple and i hope this time Snapdragon Elite X will finally be able to deliver performance with no fan noises and excellent battery life.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 23 дня назад +8

      well now they could just copy apple since they showed how to do it.
      but windows is such a mess, it's way worse than android, it is literally the worst, so the software transition is the hardest part and will take a lot of effort time and money.

    • @vishals7433
      @vishals7433 23 дня назад +4

      ​@@tringuyen7519highly doubt amd and intel can catch up with efficiency and power per watt; anymore.
      If these keeps on x86 will be nearly dead in future. M4 litreally killed best intel ever in single core with much less power and probably cost cheaper to apple.
      At this point no reason to use x86 variant except for gaming. The thing is so done for.

  • @myownhut
    @myownhut 23 дня назад +1

    Dave u look healthy now appreciate ur hard work mate I have been following you since launch. All the best for Al your future endeavors 👍

  • @shashankdogra
    @shashankdogra 23 дня назад +8

    My man killing it with those Uniqlo T shirts lately.

  • @rafiqmuhamad8251
    @rafiqmuhamad8251 24 дня назад +393

    Surface as a premium laptop still giving 256 for based model. What a shame in 2024.

    • @IshanKhandelwal
      @IshanKhandelwal 24 дня назад +154

      Atleast they r giving 16gb base ram not like MBA

    • @adityanair5340
      @adityanair5340 24 дня назад +26

      @@IshanKhandelwal tbf macos is less demanding than windows

    • @metamon2704
      @metamon2704 24 дня назад +190

      @@adityanair5340 they are not, it's just what apple tells you.

    • @ArthropodSpidey
      @ArthropodSpidey 24 дня назад

      @@metamon2704 it is. I'm pretty sure you've never even used macOS and just talking out of your ass.

    • @cgh2467
      @cgh2467 24 дня назад

      @@metamon2704 Coming from someone who used an 8GB M1 Air it ran far better than any windows laptop I have had with the same memory.

  • @rahulbiswas52303
    @rahulbiswas52303 24 дня назад +165

    Doesn't matter if it's Intel or AmMD or snapdragon. If you buy asus, warranty will be screwed for ya

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 23 дня назад +5

      AMD INTEL NVIDIA they are so dead for so long now, i mean their time was counted with M1 which was like an enternity ago...
      NOBODY will ever want anything from them, and no ai is not gonna save nvidia it will delay their dead for the longest but gpu's actually suck for ai

    • @iamakkkshay
      @iamakkkshay 23 дня назад +6

      ​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl You are comparing it wrong, Apple uses the latest TSMC 3nm fab on top of ARM architecture to get all the efficiency. When Intel's Fab get better then they will also enjoy a much lower tdp for same performance, also Intel's X86 is constantly getting smart and modular as ARM.

    • @maxrinehart4177
      @maxrinehart4177 23 дня назад +9

      ​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl GPUs is not used for AI only, nvidia will never die as their product will shift towards another thing that benefits from their massive parallelism cores. gaming then cryptocourncy mining then AI ... etc.

    • @Space97.
      @Space97. 23 дня назад +3

      ​@@JohnSmith-pn2vlfr arm in the future not them. I hate x86 because x86 chips are absolutely terrible for battery life on mobile devices like laptops and that's a understatement 😂

    • @israellewis5484
      @israellewis5484 23 дня назад +2

      @@iamakkkshay TSMC 3nm is not actually 3nm, but it's 3.5nmE. Don't be fooled by marketing. Transistors are actually larger than the marketing suggests anyway. Copper wires, and I/O on the silicon are not even going to be anywhere near 3nm. Mostly 28-12nm in size, since I/O performance does not increase as the lithography size decreases.

  • @kashmir883
    @kashmir883 23 дня назад +2

    love the SECRET SCIENTIST dave, i have a sweater with those same characters

  • @AkashSingh-le1gk
    @AkashSingh-le1gk 24 дня назад +8

    I always map that copilot key or whatever it is in previous gens to right ctrl. Makes it more useful for me

    • @ZedDevStuff
      @ZedDevStuff 24 дня назад +1

      i honestly never use right alt. Would bind it to < if i get a laptop with one considering it's a rare key on laptops (even full size keyboards)

    • @vik1ng313
      @vik1ng313 23 дня назад

      How do you remap that key?

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 24 дня назад +135

    I'm still a bit suspicious on how Windows will work (or won't work) with ARM...

    • @ZeitGeist_TV
      @ZeitGeist_TV 24 дня назад +35

      Mostly won't is my guess.

    • @jak8274
      @jak8274 24 дня назад +30

      Windows already works fine on ARM since the Surface Pro X

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 24 дня назад +5

      ​@@ZeitGeist_TVAnd while Qualcomm is working on Linux support, good luck having to likely compile a lot of apps yourself, if they are FOSS, otherwise, you're currently screwed.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 24 дня назад +1

      @@jak8274 Key word on mostly. And I don't use Windows anymore, so I don't really care.

    • @d3rocks4u
      @d3rocks4u 24 дня назад

      ​@@jak8274 I'm using one now and it's not all the way there yet

  • @brightziee
    @brightziee 24 дня назад +15

    man... been waiting for this launch this whole year 😭😭

  • @gettcouped
    @gettcouped 23 дня назад +5

    Definitely exciting! You are definitely right; we will need an EXTENSIVE amount of reviews to make sure it works for whatever use cases apply to each of us.

  • @tiemji
    @tiemji 22 дня назад

    Thanks for this recap!

  • @radeofff
    @radeofff 24 дня назад +50

    Dave is one of the rarest youtubers, who gives as mush information as needed, without stretching it to 10.01 minutes long. Tons of respect!

    • @hornfan722
      @hornfan722 23 дня назад

      fwiw the new length of videos that allow for monetization is 8:00 -- so 8:01 is the new 10:01 --- not saying Dave is bad about it but just a new policy

  • @bhgemini
    @bhgemini 24 дня назад +7

    Dave. Do you record via OBS, Atem, or similar? Instead of cutting between A & B camers in post, it looks like your are live changing cameras.

    • @ddkeydd
      @ddkeydd 24 дня назад +1

      Yes he is

    • @nadeemashraf2643
      @nadeemashraf2643 8 дней назад

      he shows his camera and live changing set up in his Ipad review.

  • @davidodell6232
    @davidodell6232 23 дня назад

    I always like your vids, especially your b-roll shots are A+.

  • @asan1050
    @asan1050 22 дня назад

    Dave! Thanks for posting this video

  • @ettcha
    @ettcha 24 дня назад +79

    Samsung announced at the same time. I hope all this brings about some great machines.
    That emulation layer had better be good too.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 24 дня назад +6

      Exactly. Otherwise, it's going to ruin the devices.

    • @dominic7012
      @dominic7012 24 дня назад

      Laptop from Samsung? Good joke.

    • @collinsgichuhi8255
      @collinsgichuhi8255 24 дня назад +2

      The Samsung Book 4 Edge was accidentally listed by a Vietnamese website and was costing around $2089

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 24 дня назад +28

      @@dominic7012 Have you been in a cave or something? they make decent laptops already, now with the new chips they might step it up to making great ones.

    • @Space97.
      @Space97. 23 дня назад +5

      ​@@dominic7012I see they don't sell in your part of the world 😂

  • @ilyasz4473
    @ilyasz4473 24 дня назад +11

    Honestly the only thing I would like from this situation is for ARM Windows to become good enough so people can figure out how to dual boot macs with it :)

    • @andrei8683
      @andrei8683 20 дней назад +1

      Well true, it might be quite good for hackintosh. But ARM is not supported now, as far as I know. Only intel based processors mostly supported.

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 13 дней назад

      MS Windows has cut a deal with Parallels to ensure Apple users can only emulate their OS, and are doing everything they can to stop people running it natively on Apple products.
      Look up all the online grassroots dev projects to convert Windows ARM to Apple M series Silicon products.... they all go quiet
      Are Qualcomm/MS colluding to stop people from having the ability to directly compare the SoC with the same OS?

  • @paulhernaus
    @paulhernaus 24 дня назад +5

    I have a Surface Laptop Go 3. I never noticed, but while watching your video I now saw that it has 4 rounded corners too.

  • @ivovass195
    @ivovass195 23 дня назад +2

    Thank you for excluding the copilot bs from this overview of these new devices. I see a good future for these thin and light laptops 😊

  • @DeusRegum
    @DeusRegum 24 дня назад +31

    I prefer the square corners. Rounded corners seem like an inefficient use of screen space.

    • @yoyo-nf1ww
      @yoyo-nf1ww 24 дня назад +9

      i prefer rounded

    • @ctrl_x1770
      @ctrl_x1770 24 дня назад +4

      I agree, especially considering how movies, media, websites, etc. are all designed with a rectangular screen in mind. Standards can change, like how laptop screens went from 16:9 to 16 by 10, but a visual change with no real benefit like rounded corners is really just wasted screen space.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 24 дня назад +4

      Same here. Especially given that it makes IPS panels cloudy around the edges (bot really the case with OLED but it's still a waste of space).

    • @precursors
      @precursors 24 дня назад +7

      All those 16 pixels lost…

    • @AryaStarky
      @AryaStarky 24 дня назад +3

      What screen space are you missing, it’s literally the corners

  • @Yusuf-Licht
    @Yusuf-Licht 23 дня назад +5

    Hey Dave, are you sure that the Surface Laptops gets also OLED Screens? I couldn't yet find that info anywere. Thanks for the great vid as always!

  • @adlerz5433
    @adlerz5433 24 дня назад

    Dave really got that chill vibe

  • @JohnMushitu
    @JohnMushitu 23 дня назад

    Exciting times. Can't wait for the reviews

  • @elementneon
    @elementneon 23 дня назад +5

    The disparity between how much reviewers seem to love devices with Snapdragon chips, and how much users of those devices despise the slowness and lag they inevitably always seem to have, is pretty amazing. Either reviewers are super out of touch, or Qualcomm has a significant marketing budget.

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 13 дней назад +1

      Portable device MS Windows have been living in the shadow of the M series chips for 4 years, chained to the wall by their charging cables.
      Snapdragon only needs to be in the same ball-park as the M series for them to eat it all up.
      Higher thermals, greater range of hardware compatibility issues, MS Windows X86 application conversions 4 years behind and parallel development required to retain X86 compatibility... we'll just see if the extra performance from the ARM SoC can make up for all of those issues.

  • @user-cl8ik9kt9e
    @user-cl8ik9kt9e 24 дня назад +63

    I am really excited for full native Linux support for these devices, which seems to be on the way! Also, eagerly waiting for Snapdragon X based Chromebooks.

    • @mug786
      @mug786 24 дня назад +3

      yes! imagine having a low power state on linux. imagine having a linux on a laptop!!

    • @user-cl8ik9kt9e
      @user-cl8ik9kt9e 24 дня назад +13

      @@mug786 not sure I understand the tone of your comment.... What really excites me regarding these Snapdragon laptops is the possibility of having a thin and light Linux laptop that lasts about 20 hours on a single charge.

    • @MrMoogle
      @MrMoogle 24 дня назад +5

      Same! I just left a comment wondering about Linux support. Glad to hear they are working on it! Fedora installs so easily on my Thinkpads and I would love to have that with the battery life of ARM.

    • @mug786
      @mug786 24 дня назад +5

      @@user-cl8ik9kt9e sorry, i'm not very good with tone. the biggest problem with linux on laptops is the lack of power efficiency. it's not even about arm or x86. the cpu itself works on max all the time, unlike macos or windows, where it idles unless there's work to be done. so a x86 windows laptop can last 12 h easily, but if you install linux on it it will be constantly warm and die in 5 h. hopefully we'll see this adressed soon.

    • @kozad86
      @kozad86 23 дня назад +1

      You'll have to jailbreak them, MS has another exclusive deal with Qualcomm on these like they have for older ARM PC hardware.

  • @valramos2003
    @valramos2003 24 дня назад +2

    Dave does not attend tech companies’ developer conferences and product releases - they go to Dave.

  • @hosseindianati7798
    @hosseindianati7798 7 дней назад

    Because you showed actual devices, I subscribed to see your in depth reviews.

  • @PhantomOnline
    @PhantomOnline 24 дня назад +3

    Was hoping you would talk about the concerns you had with the ram. I remember you saying that it might be baked onto the chip like apples M series chips. Do these laptops have upgradable ram ?

    • @metamon2704
      @metamon2704 24 дня назад +6

      It's only a problem if there isn't enough of it - from what I can tell the lowest specs have 16GB

    • @asmc1492
      @asmc1492 24 дня назад

      @@metamon2704ram demand increase in the future, expandable ram allows for future proofing

  • @saitejakonjela
    @saitejakonjela 22 дня назад +20

    Is Intel dead?

    • @sasia8738
      @sasia8738 14 дней назад +2

      May be they are sleeping for now,will wake up with new specs and they will sleep again so on .....

    • @Jjhffbki
      @Jjhffbki 13 дней назад +3

      Gone… reduced to atoms

    • @tradingbroofficial
      @tradingbroofficial 13 дней назад +1

      Won't buy it, I'll stick to x86 for compatibility

    • @liquidmark5081
      @liquidmark5081 2 дня назад

      Please stop. I can only get so excited.

    • @aibel99
      @aibel99 День назад

      Dead to me after they said they gonna build a mega factory in Israel

  • @khosroueghsh
    @khosroueghsh 23 дня назад

    i love the way you do the reviews. always honest

    • @Ailidan
      @Ailidan 22 дня назад

      It's absolutely disgusting how Dave subliminally advertises Lenovo.

  • @user-ug4li6md6d
    @user-ug4li6md6d 23 дня назад

    I have been using windows 11 on Parallels on the mac and running a bunch of x86 software, what I can tell is that so far the Prism emulation has been excellent, and this is running on top of an existing emulation layer. I cannot wait to see how these devices will perform natively.

  • @Emissary52
    @Emissary52 22 дня назад +3

    When they're on sale for $379 at Best Buy, I'll pick one up. The prices on these machines are too high! They're priced just like Apple stuff. I'll gladly buy the model that has an IPS panel and a plastic case for half of what these machines selling for. Until then, I'll keep my cheap $279 Walmart Lenovo Core i3 11th gen laptop that I added a 512 GB SSD drive and 8GB of ram to for $50 more.

  • @TheBen4151
    @TheBen4151 24 дня назад +31

    As someone that much prefers windows OS over apple for a PC, I haven't even considered buying a new windows laptop since I got my M1 macbook air. Very excited to finally consider making the switch back.

    • @k.vn.k
      @k.vn.k 23 дня назад +7

      This is basically a MacBook air copy.

    • @boutstaxx
      @boutstaxx 23 дня назад +1

      Personally I use a Dell Xps 9520 upgraded ram myself to 64gb and a M1 1tb IPad still haven’t found anything worth me updating

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 23 дня назад +2

      xou probably used windows for decades and did notr learn macOS in depth like most

    • @movieblues4614
      @movieblues4614 23 дня назад +1

      "Very excited to finally" be tracked by your ID to see W11 personalized ads?

    • @sonofage
      @sonofage 23 дня назад

      @@dolurosu why bother with these apple fantards? see the smug response of probably didn't learn macOS in depth. what a smug response. I use a macbook M2 pro myself and there are things i prefer on windows like native tiling and clipboard history but macOS also isn't that bad either, since it feels like Linux but root user isn't accessible without enabling it and my VMs run a bit laggy. At the end of the day, use what works for you. stupid brand chasers. really hate these types.

  • @anthonjhnon1
    @anthonjhnon1 24 дня назад

    Finally the video I've ben waiting on.

  • @Movie101yt
    @Movie101yt 24 дня назад +1

    Dave do you think the next big productivity laptop like Samsung tab s10ultra will also be a snapdragon elite chip?

  • @dinesh665
    @dinesh665 23 дня назад +8

    Linux arm users: this could be my machine

    • @digitalspecter
      @digitalspecter 17 дней назад +1

      That's me. I've been waiting for these devices. If the Linux support gets there I'll be buying several X Elite machines.

    • @WololoWololo2
      @WololoWololo2 8 дней назад

      ⁠Linux already support arm

  • @riklaunim
    @riklaunim 24 дня назад +3

    I hope Linux support will be good and device tree lists will be available for each device.

  • @REVIEWSONTHERUN
    @REVIEWSONTHERUN 24 дня назад

    Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

  • @theresalwaysanotherway3996
    @theresalwaysanotherway3996 24 дня назад +2

    compatibility and battery life are absolutely the most interesting parts of this device

  • @greysenpaige
    @greysenpaige 24 дня назад +3

    Are you sure about OLED on the laptop? I can't find confirmation on that anywhere.

  •  23 дня назад +3

    Great! Do they run Linux?

  • @sawyerseth9832
    @sawyerseth9832 23 дня назад +1

    Damn you really snuck in that 114 wpm flex in there

  • @mng7872
    @mng7872 23 дня назад

    The surface laptop studio also had curved corners on its display, although the radius of the curve is different here.

  • @DavidAlsh
    @DavidAlsh 23 дня назад +7

    Linux support? 👀

  • @STREETFOODJOURNEY5
    @STREETFOODJOURNEY5 24 дня назад +7

    i have the same exact Uniqlo t shirt 😂

  • @MrBaskins2010
    @MrBaskins2010 23 дня назад +2

    finally ARM chips, hope windows 12 has less ads

  • @disekjoumoer
    @disekjoumoer 23 дня назад

    You da man, Dave. love your style.

  • @Ashanmaril
    @Ashanmaril 24 дня назад +30

    Apple hasn't been doing rounded corners on the MacBooks for a decade. I believe the first time was the 2021 MacBook Pros

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 24 дня назад +2

      On the iPad Pro since 2018.

    • @Ashanmaril
      @Ashanmaril 24 дня назад +13

      @@cameronbosch1213 he said MacBooks. If we’re talking other Apple products, the iPhone X rounded the corners in 2017

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 24 дня назад

      @@Ashanmaril That's true. Like he said, only the top corners were rounded. All four sides of the Surface devices are.

    • @Ashanmaril
      @Ashanmaril 24 дня назад +2

      @@cameronbosch1213 I’m not disputing they rounded the corners differently, or commenting on it at all. I’m just curious why he thought Apple was doing it for a decade when it’s really been like 2.5 years

    • @safwanshams9524
      @safwanshams9524 24 дня назад +1

      I have a macbook pro from 2018 and it has rounded corners

  • @johnnydoe3603
    @johnnydoe3603 24 дня назад +3

    20 Hours would be Sweet 😅

  • @jaydeepgaikwad186
    @jaydeepgaikwad186 24 дня назад +1

    Can't wait to get my hands on a snapdragon x laptop to play typing master pro

  • @innocentguy1
    @innocentguy1 10 дней назад

    im feeling optimistic about these arm chips, this seems very cool

  • @duchenedesignsolutions7036
    @duchenedesignsolutions7036 24 дня назад +3

    I am not seeing anywhere on the Surface site that the laptops are OLED. If this is true, this is great, but I can't seem to find OLED verbiage anywhere with those.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 24 дня назад +1

      OLED for the X Elite version, which cost more. The base models are the X Plus and are IPS panels and only (currently) have 16GB/512GB as their max config, but the low price is only 256GB of storage. This is for the Surface Pros.

    • @duchenedesignsolutions7036
      @duchenedesignsolutions7036 24 дня назад +2

      @@andyH_England Yeah I saw that upgrading the chip on the Pro is OLED but not seeing that on the Laptop. Reviewers are only saying LCD for the laptop.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 24 дня назад

      @@duchenedesignsolutions7036 Yes, I did edit and add this was for the Surface Pro as the Laptop is not currently showing OLED. That makes the laptop a tough buy seeing that nearly every other X Elite laptop is coming with OLED.

    • @tringuyen7519
      @tringuyen7519 24 дня назад

      @@duchenedesignsolutions7036So MSFT wants to compete against the MacBook Air, not the MacBook Pro. Right?

  • @BlackCowOppa
    @BlackCowOppa 24 дня назад +3

    Thank you!

  • @johnmiller323
    @johnmiller323 24 дня назад

    Did they fix the issue with the screens cracking when you close the laptop? Or the hinges giving out after a couple years? I don’t feel like I’m very tough on my devices but the SL3 left a lot to be desired.

  • @KTPurdy
    @KTPurdy 23 дня назад

    Well done on the pros and cons

  • @paramshah25
    @paramshah25 14 дней назад +3

    Cant charge this with USB C!! Its 2024. My toothbrush uses USB C

    • @eskizerz
      @eskizerz 4 дня назад

      Well I’m sure your toothbrush takes less wattage😅

  • @SParkAtomix
    @SParkAtomix 24 дня назад +28

    80W power draw for an ARM chip is insane

    • @masterofdizzzaster
      @masterofdizzzaster 24 дня назад +7

      completely defeats the purpose of that switch

    • @ThinkTinkh
      @ThinkTinkh 24 дня назад

      Does it stay there or does it go even higher?

    • @ZedDevStuff
      @ZedDevStuff 24 дня назад

      I'm pretty sure it eats like 20 something in regular usage, at least that's what they say

    • @pilkycrc
      @pilkycrc 24 дня назад +1

      Will be interesting to see how many OEMs support up to 80W. From what I can tell online the M3 Pro can hit those Cinebench numbers with about 50W. I mean 80W isn’t too far from the 100-110W my M1 Ultra Mac Studio draws as total system power while maxing out CPU and GPU with various powered devices connected, so I’d be more inclined to think you’d see the 80W mode more frequently in some desktop mini PCs where it won’t hit battery life and can be cooled adequately

  • @imSterling
    @imSterling 24 дня назад +1

    IINM, the Surface Laptop Go had rounded corners before the MacBook did.

  • @jtland4842
    @jtland4842 23 дня назад +2

    All I want is for new laptops to support LPCAMM2 so we can have upgradable and serviceable ram in laptops again. Lenovo just brought it to market in the Thinkpad P1 Gen7 so hopefully the rest of their laptop range will get it this year or next.

  • @brentspotswood
    @brentspotswood 24 дня назад +8

    I’m curious to see how this goes. I hate Mac but have been using a MacBook Pro for the last couple of years because it allows me to do the things I want to do without having to worry much about battery life. If I can do dev work, some light gaming, and some video editing then I really look forward to ditching the MacBook. Maybe ditching the apple everything.

    • @AllGuitarSucks
      @AllGuitarSucks 23 дня назад

      Its funny to see people saying they hate Mac but buy one anyways

    • @hyperpedro2868
      @hyperpedro2868 23 дня назад +1

      It is a transition year. I really hope so. Close to move to Mac because of the battery life. But if we can get good Windows laptop with good battery life and without horrible Apple upgrade price I am all for it.

    • @sonofage
      @sonofage 23 дня назад +1

      I use the macbook for traveling and the windows PC at home so i get you. With ARM, perhaps I can encourage the company i work for to have an opening for purchasing windows laptops for some.

  • @SP_Saga
    @SP_Saga 23 дня назад +9

    4:57 - Thanks for using metric units Dave! 😊

  • @HannoSLM8213
    @HannoSLM8213 23 дня назад

    Thanks for another awesome video.

  • @watwatwatwat
    @watwatwatwat 23 дня назад

    Hi Dave I love your fish tank, especially the color! Would you mind making a video to show your setup?

  • @lordwafflesthegreat
    @lordwafflesthegreat 24 дня назад +28

    Can't wait to put Linux on it!

    • @kajetanczerwinski3962
      @kajetanczerwinski3962 24 дня назад +2

      Linux (few apps) + ARM (few apps) = very few apps, sadly ://

    • @fluffy_tail4365
      @fluffy_tail4365 23 дня назад

      @@kajetanczerwinski3962 on linux you can just recompile stuff...most programs are open source

    • @OverGrownApe_001
      @OverGrownApe_001 23 дня назад +2

      @@kajetanczerwinski3962 what? lmao

    • @youtube_bot839
      @youtube_bot839 23 дня назад

      Box64 and wine are already pretty good. These laptops should push their development even further.

    • @petkogeorgiev2103
      @petkogeorgiev2103 23 дня назад

      @@kajetanczerwinski3962 Because of the Raspberry PI being so popular, pretty much all Linux software has ARM builds. Which to me is funny, as app support is one of the biggest problems with Windows on ARM, but no one acknowledges how good is Linux on that regard.
      My guess is that Linux currently has more ARM apps than Windows on ARM will have when these laptops release.

  • @Catzanova
    @Catzanova 23 дня назад +3

    600 nits - so no HDR

  • @Kirmo13
    @Kirmo13 24 дня назад

    omg yes how cool I've been waiting for this for so long

  • @simonwang4530
    @simonwang4530 23 дня назад

    OMG I just realized I have the exact same shirt that you wore DAVE as I was watching this video 😂

  • @kamaboko1
    @kamaboko1 23 дня назад +4

    Looks interesting, but at the end of the day it's still Microsoft. I've been let down by them too many times. They won't get me again.

  • @flamingkillermc2806
    @flamingkillermc2806 24 дня назад +6

    0:59 False apple has not being doing rounded corners for that long

  • @EdwardViaTomato
    @EdwardViaTomato 23 дня назад

    I haven't been here in a while. That aquarium looks nice.

  • @siddusaik
    @siddusaik 18 дней назад

    Wow the Lenovo yoga laptop ad was so organic 😂

  • @shashank_sati
    @shashank_sati 24 дня назад +4

    22 sec ago is craazzy

  • @DeusRegum
    @DeusRegum 24 дня назад +3

    @Dave2D Where'd your hair go?

  • @onlysublime
    @onlysublime 18 дней назад

    I can't wait to see one of these machines get in your hands! I preordered the Surface Pro with OLED, 16GB, and 512GB for $1349! fun times ahead!

  • @Ozturw
    @Ozturw 23 дня назад

    Dave, great review. 3 minutes 45 seconds you have said Surface Pro 11, you meant to say Surface pro 10 I think. Looking forward to testing the Surface pro 10

  • @A_GodApple
    @A_GodApple 24 дня назад +4

    Im surprised how he didn't compare this to the Apple Silicon MacBooks, which are the gold standard of laptops

    • @josephle2381
      @josephle2381 24 дня назад +1

      He did?

    • @metamon2704
      @metamon2704 24 дня назад +6

      how would he compare when it hasn't been released yet, did you even watch the video?

    • @A_GodApple
      @A_GodApple 24 дня назад

      @@metamon2704 but he literally had it in his hands… and he even showed benchmarks of it compared to M3, might as well compare to MacBooks completely…

    • @jaimenazario7965
      @jaimenazario7965 23 дня назад

      This snapdragon x chip can compete with the base M3 chip that Apple offers, from last year. These chips will be released along side laptops that will go to market in 2025, when the M5 chips would be releasing. Kinda still lagging behind and playing catch up.

    • @eds464
      @eds464 23 дня назад +2

      @@A_GodApple most likely benchmarks given by the marketing team. Remember this is early access so just because he has the products in his hands doesn't mean he has free reign to test everything. This tactic or concept is not new with these companies.

  • @imNotMeWhenimHungry
    @imNotMeWhenimHungry 23 дня назад +7

    I'll never forget when the US Air Force discovered Chinese spyware on Lenovo computers and banned purchases from them

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. 23 дня назад

      Microsoft ones will take photos every seconds of your screen. It's wonderful!

  • @ethangaines2658
    @ethangaines2658 14 дней назад +1

    Where the hell do I find the OLED version of these new Surface Laptop 7's? Can't find the option anywhere on Microsoft's website...

  • @stumpatron
    @stumpatron 23 дня назад

    Rounded corners are on the laptop studio too

  • @suanthang2463
    @suanthang2463 24 дня назад +5

    Damn! I'm early af

  • @xpusostomos
    @xpusostomos 24 дня назад +3

    If rounded corners are so great, let Microsoft windows do it as an option.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 24 дня назад

      Exactly. Oh wait, I don't use Winblows! 😂

    • @acasualmusiclistener7919
      @acasualmusiclistener7919 24 дня назад

      @@cameronbosch1213 bro you fucking killed him

    • @xpusostomos
      @xpusostomos 23 дня назад

      ​@@cameronbosch1213🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Then let whatever junk you use do it

  • @jawatkinsful
    @jawatkinsful 23 дня назад

    This is a fantastic video!!

  • @Mark.Taylor.
    @Mark.Taylor. 24 дня назад

    Thanks Dave! 😀

  • @shehanmello2489
    @shehanmello2489 24 дня назад +3

    noticed I'm getting this weird "headache" when watching certain channels. Turns out I'm still not used to 60fps

    • @dr.coconut
      @dr.coconut 24 дня назад +1

      Yeah, same. I still don’t really like the weird way 60fps looks

    • @allawy
      @allawy 24 дня назад

      is this a new RUclips update?

  • @reviewchan9806
    @reviewchan9806 24 дня назад +4

    Shoving useless AI down our throats like that is such a red flag. That dedicated copilot button is so forced and useless.

    • @devansh2895
      @devansh2895 20 дней назад +1

      Yeah it's shoving cause MS is doing it. If this was Apple's product then this would have been called "innovation" by Apple themselves their fan boys.

  • @dantierandbalogh
    @dantierandbalogh 21 день назад

    Off topic, but will you review the pixel 8a? Would love to hear your thoughts on it

  • @MarioShadbox
    @MarioShadbox 23 дня назад +2

    Man, I love that Yoga 7x, being in Argentina makes very dificult to get access to one, but I'll get it sooner or later. Great vid Dave!