I switched to the MacBook Air M2 15 inch from a series of Intel and AMD laptops that all had the craziest hardware failures of all time. I was wooed by the battery life, heat control, and fanless design. I had a Surface Pro years ago and I really miss it… if all these things would’ve come out a year and a half ago, I would’ve never gone Apple.
You can always change, as you have done, I switch between both Mac and Surface (on ARM) and like them equally for different reasons. Really comes down to personal preference and some must have features, that only a few percent of the population, must have. I am now loving my Surface Laptop on ARM, it does everything I need and the battery is incredible. Each to their own.
@@simonm9964 THAT is the Key, that MOST people do not NEED much more than a 3-5 year old computer. Here in YT, or POSERland, people pretend they are doing such intensive work. People PRETEND they NEED 8K and superfast CPU/sGPUs. Chances are if you NEED Call that,you would be rich/wealthy ,and not be on YT making claims. Even I have to admit I have not used 30% of the power capacity of this gamer laptop I am on now, even running two browsers and applications.
I have had mine for over a month now and I do enjoy it. The ARM processor does limit some of your programs but I usually it mostly for work. It is fast and program execution is smooth. Out of the box the display on the tablet was terrible but then after all the drivers were downloaded, the video in 4K HDR looked flawless. The only thing that I had that beat it was the 2024 11-inch iPad Pro.
is there still HEAT issue when using this for an extended period of time? I have seen surface pro 234567 and even 8 being HOT. They do get really hot during gaming, even the eyes can feel the heat. I use it for art and drawing, making the drawing on screen experience very bad. How is this new one so far? have you hated it for the heat issue compare to like android tablets by samsung?
Question. Did you put your Surface Pro 11 in performance mode? I ask because your benchmark numbers are actually much lower than all of the other reviewers. Everyone else were getting over 2800 in single and over 14000 in multi. Yours is significantly lower. Good video overall.
@@julierabot3392 That sounds more on point opposed to the benchmarks in this video. These benchmark numbers were actually way off and looks to be in normal standard mode.
10:04 to 10:12 I guess the he is using the laptop on Recommended mode, which is not the Best Performance mode. I guess his benchmarks are also done on this mode.
@@rezaulkarim7703they should be done in this mode. Unless the battery test is also measured in performance mode. Otherwise the information is theoretical and doesn’t apply.
I thought that happened because he had a lot of different softwares running plus a lot of tabs in chrome. Either way it's better to turn them animations off haha.
That is the biggest issue - bloat and features forced onto you which you dont use anyway, but most importantly lack of app support. x86 translation also being lackluster (especially compared to Rosetta and even FEX) doesnt help. And dev kits not being out either is just all you need to know about the software side... Battery life and screen are great, but it is as you say: what good is any of that if my relevant apps dont run?
The biggest reason to use this laptop or any other laptop is you don't have a use for the Mac...which is most of us non-content creators. Think about it. Why do they even buy this expensive thing? It doesn't do Excel very well, you are limited to apps available to macOS and you can't game in this as much as you could with Intel/Nvidia laptops. The biggest flaw of the Macbook is the macOS. The rest of the world runs in Windows and Linux.
I have one with X elite (so in 15") and its very very good at work (while I usually use 7950x in desktop) so, if you want very great laptop for work, you will have more than 15 hours of very high performance! I was very impressed by how it's good 👍
If you want a traditional laptop and dont feel like you will use the unique features of the surface pro then go for surface laptop. If you think the tablet mode of the surface pro is a really important feature then go for the Surface pro. There are a lot of sacrifices the surface ro makes to get the formfactor it does.
Question : Would you replace your iPad Pro with this? It's actually cheaper. And a better OS for general computer work than iPad OS. As soon as Adobe can get Illustrator, PP and AE working I'm in. Great travel option.
@@Nemesis-db8fl I'm on an 8gb MacBook Air M1 and multitasking like bat sh*t crazy, this is better than I've ever seen on such little ram. Super satisfied with what I got for office and mid intensive work (editing, productivity hundreds of tabs etc)
@@rnldmtsexactly. They read numbers not the experience. Probably the type of guy to say his favorite computer has a bigger sized battery (but omits the fact that it doesnt actually last longer)
@@GermanElias-hd6lc yes but there are also numerous accessories that are already made for this proprietary connector. It would suck if Microsoft just suddenly deprecated this and made it not available, it just makes hundreds of accessories not accessible even if it works perfectly fine and serves it purpose
@@yxles same was said about lightning on apple, and the 30 pin connector too, it doesn't make sense for companies to stick with proprietary connectors when a better standard exists.
@@GermanElias-hd6lc that's a phone, accessories on a laptop are much more vital to its user. You're not really gonna use a hub on your phone don't you? Beside, there is still upside on having the surface connector still being implemented especially with charging, having it be magnetic could be useful in protecting the device that even Apple brought back MagSafe from its grave
My understanding was that the so called ‘local AI’ features still needed an internet connection so MS can ensure their suggested images etc are ‘safe’. That’s not a local AI in my opinion.
I was going to get a microsoft surface but based on my experiences with Windows over the last couple of years, i decided to just replace my laptop with a samsung tab S9 because it can do what i need it to do without the need of windows
Yes, I don't exactly believe in brand loyalty. Start from your use case scenario and buy what fits the need. I currently have an older Surface Pro but also thinking of switching to Galaxy Tab because of Android apps. Really wish MS didn't remove Android app support.
Why does single-core performance matter most? Aren't most apps (including MacOS ones) multi-threaded these days? Whilst I haven't been doing software development for years now but I do think MacOS itself is designed to run on multi-core processors, in fact, it is definitely designed on processors with multiple heterogeneous cores. AFAIK, lots of Macbook's performance comes from the hardware accelerators, close OS-app integration and the more powerful GPU... and not just because it scores well in single-core benchmarks.
@@VinayakShuklaMBBS Go for an ipad air, you don't need crazy power of the m4 for an MBBS student. m2 air is more than sufficient. Or go for a Samsung galaxy Tab s9 or s9 FE
Well not much changed in the prospect of software development toolkits, multi-threaded apps are still much harder to design and support, and most importantly far from many tasks can be parallelized with ease, if at all. Single core is still a very much measure of how fast a device can compute a general task, and probably it will stay like that forever.
What about microsoft excel with macro (the xlsm files)?? Do they work on this Windows on arm hardware? Please kindly review that as well, it will be a deal breaker for myself it the macro does not work on arm hardware...
@@jack_2612 buying surface pro 11, still a lot better and way cheaper than buying m3 air + ipad. sp 11 it start at 1k. ipad is not a workstation device. it's an oversized screen iphone, a lot more expensive than sp 11 and not intended for a workstation device. while m3 air gives good battery life, but it starts at 8gb of ram which is very stupid if you do a lot of work, while all of the snapdragon laptops start at 16gb of ram. for a compact device, fit in a sling bag, sp 11 is not a bad choice at all
Personally I'd take a Mac, and the reason why is, Microsoft continues to struggle with X86 and Arm compatibility. They've been struggling with this since the Surface Pro X back in 2019. On paper this Snapdragon Elite might be faster. But what good is that speed, if the programs you need, don't run, or run slow, or drain your battery? Also the MacBook Air is cheaper and now comes with 16gb of ram in the base model.
Thanks for the honest and clear review! I think the Windows on Arm will only become better from now on. The portability and the great battery life of the Surface Pro is a winner for me. I Oh and: copilot for a like.
I think MS better to release another.x86 version using the new AMD 370 ai and improve the screen with something similar to what iPad have more tuned to writing and drawing and non reflective with paper like .
(Codeword) Copilot is a non-issue. But I like you love the form factor, battery life, screen, etc. I am also awaiting some native arm compatibility on programs I use. I like the larger and haptic track pad as well. Typing this on my Surface Pro 10. So great to see Windows trying to make the leap (correctly) into ARM world for battery life performance and quiet operation. Great review!
No mention of audio quality? Maybe I missed that bit, but apparently it is outstanding on the surface pro 11,according to another review I watched earlier.
I have the surface pro 6. I use it as a desk top. I have two monitors connected to it. It’s really cool what this tablet can do. I mainly use it for school. Much better than any iPad. Taking it on the go is just as simple as unplugging it from the port. The detachable keyboard acts as a case. As far as gaming, it ran Rome Total war, which I thought was impressive enough. Old PC games will run well. But nothing modern.
copilot! I was wondering if you still had the surface pro 11 and if the app compatibility you needed was there now? I ask as I think google drive (emulated) is available now? Just got a macbook air m3 and its been great to use but the new surface devices were also very tempting!
He stirred up apple users. I can feel that from the comments. 😂 Surface pro from the intel version was always been hot, having a short battery life and lack of performance. But now it solves those problems. I think this is the right moment to get a real 2in1 device. unlike apple keep saying ipad is computer which is definitely not. Thanks for your great review.
This is all been true. I've been on the Surface Pro journey for a whlle and it was always great but compromised because of the heat and battery. Now as you say those are ressolved, I picked up a base SP11 and I am super happy. I liked my SP9 and SP4 but just never liked the fact that battery was only good for a few hours so I didn't need much improvement but with this iteration I am very very happy and now use my iPad a lot less (which is also a good device but I need a desktop OS).
I can less about Apple users because they are all working computers..Yes, the IPad is a computer just like most smartphones. The Ipad or a Galaxy tablet could have run the Whole NASA space mission in the 70s...
Give it linux as a hostOS (will happen soon) , EGPU support, Virtualization of windows with GPU passthrough would be a kick ass work/game + couch device all in one.
I didn’t see the specs of the M3 Macbook Air you were using for comparison purposes. But the Surface bundle is something like $1,800 U.S., whereas the Air is either $1,100 (8GB) or $1,300 (16GB). I know you did this because this is what Microsoft did, but a more fair comparison price-wise would be the Surface Pro vs. the MacBook Pro.
I have a Surface pro 7 as well... I love the surface form factor so am wondering whether the 11 is finally worth the upgrade... Then again the 7 is still going great for me, so might just wait another year
What resolution can it achieve on 2 external monitors, whilst docked? Also, is the NVMe internal hard disk a soldered type? Or can it be end user upgraded? I currently have a Dell XPS 13 (non 2-in-1 form factor) to ensure both these things. I can run both my monitors at 4K. And I recently upgraded my HDD to 4Tb.
I've tried the copilot features, they're not great but the surface pro itself is great. I'd love to see how Apple responds and brings ai to the macbook. Great video, "copilot".
Curious about this as well. If it can run all the daily CRM software we use (which is practically all being migrated to web anyways), might just pull the trigger on it as a portable troubleshooting laptop, as it seems a lot lighter weight than our company ones. That and touchscreen would actually be quite interesting to use!
Still repairability almost zero with no screws on the back. The charger stops working after a while and the KB gets frayed in corners by wearing out. Altogether it's not comparable with Macbook
I switched from Windows to MacOS years ago. Except for gaming, there is no way I'd go back to a Windows machine for productivity. It's about the OS and supporting software and not so much about the machine. And I do not miss the endless hours waiting for my Windows machine to update either.
Can someone please answer me this, does lightroom work well? and can I use the denoise function, if so will it process 50 photos in 30 mins/1 hour? Been looking at a portable solution for photo editing and need this feature in my work flow as well as the pen for note taking during meetings ect.
then buy a MacBook and keep the iPad around for when you want to use a tablet. A good 2in1 device is still not as good as two dedicated devices neither in terms of performance neither in terms of ux
@@jack_2612 yeah like a device that capable of 50% tablet and 90% laptop, that adds up as an 140% device for those dont want two devices. The main problems as tablet are: 1. too heavy(900g) 2.some of software doesnt support touch input (e.g. the authentication of my shopping website would fail if i use touch input to complete the "are you human" challenge). The main problem as laptop is that it cant stablely sit on my laptop
just don't use ipad. u're using an oversized screen iphone. new sp 11 is a full workstation device, the tablet only mode is not as user friendly as ipad, but it gets the job done, while ipad is user friendly, but u will almost never get ur job done in that device.
@@Bizmops it's true that surface is not as user friendly as iPad but surprisingly, it works for me. I use surface as tablet and it improve my productivity. Sadly, I bought surface pro 9 which still kinda jaggy but I guess I can't go back to using MacBook and iPad again
My bad, I should've made it more clear! For the sake of the test, I converted a relatively small video file so the difference's aren't big. When converting larger MXF files or really long videos, the time saving compounded and I saw 30s+ differences.
So.. you are saying a snap dragon device which at present can't run most of the windows software applications is better to a Mac Book Air which can run all the mac applications that you decided to keep the snap dragon device. Your job is casual browsing and watching videos?
I had a surface pro 11 for awhile, recently replaced it with an iPad Pro 13. For the right person, the surface pro will do just fine, and hell even replace the MacBook Air. Not for me. I prefer the iPad for sure.
Copilot, thank you for the video! The Surface Pro 11 OLED looks fantastic. I’m curious what your thoughts are on the iPad Pro M4 13 Inch, I think you would really like this device also.
In 14:23, you said you would pick the mac book air over the Surface Pro because of the disappointment in copilot features, but the mac book air does not have copilot or any other Ai features. I think you were going to pick the mac bookmair anyways. It seem like a bias review. 🤷🏾♂️
Great review Andrew. What was it like having both USB-C ports on the same side of the device? Also, what was palm rejection like while writing with the pen? I noticed in your video that your palm was semi off the screen when writing and drawing
It's interesting how all these tech reviewers make it sound like the average user can simply switch between operating systems (for computers, phones, etc.) like changing clothes. The stats and hardware are more often than not a moot point if we are already tied into an ecosystem.
I will say pro 10 with flex keyboard is the best combination right now. Too bad microsoft doesnt want to sell me pro 10 in my country as i am just a normal "home" user.....Sigh.
I switched to the MacBook Air M2 15 inch from a series of Intel and AMD laptops that all had the craziest hardware failures of all time. I was wooed by the battery life, heat control, and fanless design. I had a Surface Pro years ago and I really miss it… if all these things would’ve come out a year and a half ago, I would’ve never gone Apple.
smart move...
You can always change, as you have done, I switch between both Mac and Surface (on ARM) and like them equally for different reasons. Really comes down to personal preference and some must have features, that only a few percent of the population, must have. I am now loving my Surface Laptop on ARM, it does everything I need and the battery is incredible. Each to their own.
@@simonm9964 THAT is the Key, that MOST people do not NEED much more than a 3-5 year old computer. Here in YT, or POSERland, people pretend they are doing such intensive work. People PRETEND they NEED 8K and superfast CPU/sGPUs. Chances are if you NEED Call that,you would be rich/wealthy ,and not be on YT making claims. Even I have to admit I have not used 30% of the power capacity of this gamer laptop I am on now, even running two browsers and applications.
Garbage choices.
MacBooks have quite high resale value if you’ve taken good care of it. Maybe it’s worth looking to switch
Copilot! Thanks for the review. I am watching this from the Surface Pro 11 I just got!
I have had mine for over a month now and I do enjoy it. The ARM processor does limit some of your programs but I usually it mostly for work. It is fast and program execution is smooth. Out of the box the display on the tablet was terrible but then after all the drivers were downloaded, the video in 4K HDR looked flawless. The only thing that I had that beat it was the 2024 11-inch iPad Pro.
Do I need to go somewhere to download the drivers?
Can it run photoshop?
The drivers aren't included out of box??
is there still HEAT issue when using this for an extended period of time? I have seen surface pro 234567 and even 8 being HOT. They do get really hot during gaming, even the eyes can feel the heat. I use it for art and drawing, making the drawing on screen experience very bad. How is this new one so far? have you hated it for the heat issue compare to like android tablets by samsung?
Heat should be much better as it's running an arm chip
I haven't had any heat issues on the Surface Laptop on ARM.
Question. Did you put your Surface Pro 11 in performance mode? I ask because your benchmark numbers are actually much lower than all of the other reviewers. Everyone else were getting over 2800 in single and over 14000 in multi. Yours is significantly lower. Good video overall.
Yeah I confirm that in performance mode, without being charging, I obtain around 2780 in single and 14300 in multi
@@julierabot3392 That sounds more on point opposed to the benchmarks in this video. These benchmark numbers were actually way off and looks to be in normal standard mode.
@@williamcopeland2617effectively
10:04 to 10:12 I guess the he is using the laptop on Recommended mode, which is not the Best Performance mode. I guess his benchmarks are also done on this mode.
@@rezaulkarim7703they should be done in this mode. Unless the battery test is also measured in performance mode. Otherwise the information is theoretical and doesn’t apply.
3:34 please, Microsoft, fix this laggy animation, it has been forever
lol 100%
Lol i have used the macbook airs both m1 and m2 and i would literally see this lag daily
lmao true
I thought that happened because he had a lot of different softwares running plus a lot of tabs in chrome. Either way it's better to turn them animations off haha.
That is the biggest issue - bloat and features forced onto you which you dont use anyway, but most importantly lack of app support.
x86 translation also being lackluster (especially compared to Rosetta and even FEX) doesnt help.
And dev kits not being out either is just all you need to know about the software side...
Battery life and screen are great, but it is as you say: what good is any of that if my relevant apps dont run?
The biggest reason to use this laptop or any other laptop is you don't have a use for the Mac...which is most of us non-content creators. Think about it. Why do they even buy this expensive thing? It doesn't do Excel very well, you are limited to apps available to macOS and you can't game in this as much as you could with Intel/Nvidia laptops. The biggest flaw of the Macbook is the macOS. The rest of the world runs in Windows and Linux.
Great review!
Copilot, great video. I had the surface pro 4 years ago and it was amazing.
Should I get this or the Surface laptop?? So similar yet different I'm confused. Great review!
I have one with X elite (so in 15") and its very very good at work (while I usually use 7950x in desktop) so, if you want very great laptop for work, you will have more than 15 hours of very high performance!
I was very impressed by how it's good 👍
If you want a traditional laptop and dont feel like you will use the unique features of the surface pro then go for surface laptop. If you think the tablet mode of the surface pro is a really important feature then go for the Surface pro. There are a lot of sacrifices the surface ro makes to get the formfactor it does.
Copilot ! Thanks for the review and planned to get one this weekend
Question : Would you replace your iPad Pro with this? It's actually cheaper. And a better OS for general computer work than iPad OS. As soon as Adobe can get Illustrator, PP and AE working I'm in. Great travel option.
I think that for graphic work Windows is still better, especially with sending files from and to client.
Thanks bro for being so honest ❤love it, thanks once again and Good job 👍
thank god it starts at 16gb. while apple still sticks to 8gb of ram in 2024 .
Imagine if they ship 8gb in 2025
@@Nemesis-db8fl I'm on an 8gb MacBook Air M1 and multitasking like bat sh*t crazy, this is better than I've ever seen on such little ram.
Super satisfied with what I got for office and mid intensive work (editing, productivity hundreds of tabs etc)
Never match and compare 8 GB RAM of apple to any other DDR4s or 5s. :)
@@rnldmtsexactly. They read numbers not the experience. Probably the type of guy to say his favorite computer has a bigger sized battery (but omits the fact that it doesnt actually last longer)
@@vladonutueu do you know macs extend ram with virtual memory on the fly? Physical ram will always be better than virtual
Why are they still giving it that proprietary charge port when it can charge via usb-c? Just give it one more usb-c port.
Because it’s not only for charging, it’s also used on numerous accessories.
@@yxles USB C is used in waaaaaaaaaaay more accessories than the surface connector
@@GermanElias-hd6lc yes but there are also numerous accessories that are already made for this proprietary connector. It would suck if Microsoft just suddenly deprecated this and made it not available, it just makes hundreds of accessories not accessible even if it works perfectly fine and serves it purpose
@@yxles same was said about lightning on apple, and the 30 pin connector too, it doesn't make sense for companies to stick with proprietary connectors when a better standard exists.
@@GermanElias-hd6lc that's a phone, accessories on a laptop are much more vital to its user. You're not really gonna use a hub on your phone don't you? Beside, there is still upside on having the surface connector still being implemented especially with charging, having it be magnetic could be useful in protecting the device that even Apple brought back MagSafe from its grave
My understanding was that the so called ‘local AI’ features still needed an internet connection so MS can ensure their suggested images etc are ‘safe’. That’s not a local AI in my opinion.
If it can’t be used offline, it’s not local. I agree.
I was going to get a microsoft surface but based on my experiences with Windows over the last couple of years, i decided to just replace my laptop with a samsung tab S9 because it can do what i need it to do without the need of windows
I agree. Most of the productivity apps that I need have an android version that do well in Dex Mode.
Yes, I don't exactly believe in brand loyalty. Start from your use case scenario and buy what fits the need. I currently have an older Surface Pro but also thinking of switching to Galaxy Tab because of Android apps. Really wish MS didn't remove Android app support.
Why does single-core performance matter most? Aren't most apps (including MacOS ones) multi-threaded these days? Whilst I haven't been doing software development for years now but I do think MacOS itself is designed to run on multi-core processors, in fact, it is definitely designed on processors with multiple heterogeneous cores. AFAIK, lots of Macbook's performance comes from the hardware accelerators, close OS-app integration and the more powerful GPU... and not just because it scores well in single-core benchmarks.
Surface pro or ipad pro M4?,
Im a MBBS student.
@@VinayakShuklaMBBS Go for an ipad air, you don't need crazy power of the m4 for an MBBS student. m2 air is more than sufficient. Or go for a Samsung galaxy Tab s9 or s9 FE
Well not much changed in the prospect of software development toolkits, multi-threaded apps are still much harder to design and support, and most importantly far from many tasks can be parallelized with ease, if at all. Single core is still a very much measure of how fast a device can compute a general task, and probably it will stay like that forever.
@@dmitryburlakov6920 oic... so software development hasn't really progressed much in the last 10yrs. I stand corrected 😀
Single core performance makes everything responsive.
What about microsoft excel with macro (the xlsm files)?? Do they work on this Windows on arm hardware? Please kindly review that as well, it will be a deal breaker for myself it the macro does not work on arm hardware...
Seems like a great device for students?
@@jack_2612 buying surface pro 11, still a lot better and way cheaper than buying m3 air + ipad. sp 11 it start at 1k. ipad is not a workstation device. it's an oversized screen iphone, a lot more expensive than sp 11 and not intended for a workstation device. while m3 air gives good battery life, but it starts at 8gb of ram which is very stupid if you do a lot of work, while all of the snapdragon laptops start at 16gb of ram. for a compact device, fit in a sling bag, sp 11 is not a bad choice at all
Yeah ! And the surface laptop 7 (laptop version of that) with X elite is really really good for work, and also for students for sure !
Yeah a student of life🙂↕️
I recorded countless of lectures using the rear camera with good mic recording, it replaced both my macbook and ipad
Personally I'd take a Mac, and the reason why is, Microsoft continues to struggle with X86 and Arm compatibility. They've been struggling with this since the Surface Pro X back in 2019. On paper this Snapdragon Elite might be faster. But what good is that speed, if the programs you need, don't run, or run slow, or drain your battery? Also the MacBook Air is cheaper and now comes with 16gb of ram in the base model.
Thanks for the honest and clear review! I think the Windows on Arm will only become better from now on. The portability and the great battery life of the Surface Pro is a winner for me. I Oh and: copilot for a like.
Thanks for sharing your opinion about those new Surface
I think MS better to release another.x86 version using the new AMD 370 ai and improve the screen with something similar to what iPad have more tuned to writing and drawing and non reflective with paper like .
(Codeword) Copilot is a non-issue. But I like you love the form factor, battery life, screen, etc. I am also awaiting some native arm compatibility on programs I use. I like the larger and haptic track pad as well. Typing this on my Surface Pro 10. So great to see Windows trying to make the leap (correctly) into ARM world for battery life performance and quiet operation. Great review!
No mention of audio quality? Maybe I missed that bit, but apparently it is outstanding on the surface pro 11,according to another review I watched earlier.
Very well done video! I am looking for a new laptop to buy going into college freshman year. This looks like a good choice.
I have the surface pro 6. I use it as a desk top. I have two monitors connected to it. It’s really cool what this tablet can do. I mainly use it for school. Much better than any iPad. Taking it on the go is just as simple as unplugging it from the port. The detachable keyboard acts as a case. As far as gaming, it ran Rome Total war, which I thought was impressive enough. Old PC games will run well. But nothing modern.
copilot! I was wondering if you still had the surface pro 11 and if the app compatibility you needed was there now? I ask as I think google drive (emulated) is available now?
Just got a macbook air m3 and its been great to use but the new surface devices were also very tempting!
Nice review
Beautiful device, well crafted
He stirred up apple users.
I can feel that from the comments. 😂
Surface pro from the intel version was always been hot, having a short battery life and lack of performance. But now it solves those problems.
I think this is the right moment to get a real 2in1 device. unlike apple keep saying ipad is computer which is definitely not.
Thanks for your great review.
yeah this video title is appropriate rather than the "replacing my macbook with the m4 ipad pro" like bruh.
This is all been true. I've been on the Surface Pro journey for a whlle and it was always great but compromised because of the heat and battery. Now as you say those are ressolved, I picked up a base SP11 and I am super happy. I liked my SP9 and SP4 but just never liked the fact that battery was only good for a few hours so I didn't need much improvement but with this iteration I am very very happy and now use my iPad a lot less (which is also a good device but I need a desktop OS).
I can less about Apple users because they are all working computers..Yes, the IPad is a computer just like most smartphones. The Ipad or a Galaxy tablet could have run the Whole NASA space mission in the 70s...
I have been a lifelong Windows user. I was confused between Copliot+PC and MacBook Air. I then went with MacBook Air M3. I am enjoying it.
Give it linux as a hostOS (will happen soon) ,
EGPU support,
Virtualization of windows with GPU passthrough
would be a kick ass work/game + couch device all in one.
Nice review. Thanks.
I didn’t see the specs of the M3 Macbook Air you were using for comparison purposes. But the Surface bundle is something like $1,800 U.S., whereas the Air is either $1,100 (8GB) or $1,300 (16GB). I know you did this because this is what Microsoft did, but a more fair comparison price-wise would be the Surface Pro vs. the MacBook Pro.
Which device would you recommend? I have a Surface Pro 7 and I am planning on upgrading soon. Surface Laptop 7th Edition or the Surface Pro 11?
I have a Surface pro 7 as well... I love the surface form factor so am wondering whether the 11 is finally worth the upgrade... Then again the 7 is still going great for me, so might just wait another year
My only question is can we run all apps and softwares on this?
fair review, it will be interesting to see where microsoft goes from here
Great video co pilot
nice review!
nice review
What resolution can it achieve on 2 external monitors, whilst docked? Also, is the NVMe internal hard disk a soldered type? Or can it be end user upgraded? I currently have a Dell XPS 13 (non 2-in-1 form factor) to ensure both these things. I can run both my monitors at 4K. And I recently upgraded my HDD to 4Tb.
Copilot! Thanks for this awesome review!
Great review. Really not sold on copilot yet.
I've tried the copilot features, they're not great but the surface pro itself is great. I'd love to see how Apple responds and brings ai to the macbook. Great video, "copilot".
Apple Intelligence will definitely be interesting!
At least on paper, Apple intelligence looks a whole bunch more useful than MS copilot, but we’ll see
I am curious to see how this thing runs as a IT Tech tool.
Can the arm chips run SCCM? AD? Wireshark? ect ect
Curious about this as well. If it can run all the daily CRM software we use (which is practically all being migrated to web anyways), might just pull the trigger on it as a portable troubleshooting laptop, as it seems a lot lighter weight than our company ones. That and touchscreen would actually be quite interesting to use!
Ey! For surface , the windows is free?
Surface 11 vs apple m3 pro laptop..which one best ??
Copilot! Andrew would you suggest an energy systems engineering student switch from a gaming laptop to surface pro 11?
Is it fair to compare the MacBook Air to the Surface Pro?
Have the older Surface Pros had an desktop processor?
How would this compare with the New Lenovo thinkpad X12?
copilot, debating grabbing this guy to be my Windows driver beside my M2 Air. Can you upgrade Windows 11 Home to Pro?
Copilot. Great review, thanks for creating it.
“Co pilot” very interesting thanks for sharing
Still repairability almost zero with no screws on the back. The charger stops working after a while and the KB gets frayed in corners by wearing out. Altogether it's not comparable with Macbook
This video really convinced me that Windows is just so painful to use. The setup process, the extremely glitchy animation at 3:30 is enough.
Does this have eye tracker?
How Does Keyboard Charge ?!
Does Copilot work offline?
Nope
I switched from Windows to MacOS years ago. Except for gaming, there is no way I'd go back to a Windows machine for productivity. It's about the OS and supporting software and not so much about the machine. And I do not miss the endless hours waiting for my Windows machine to update either.
So if i need to move to apple air m3 from Microsoft environment
Will be right selection
just stick to macbook air coz SD X Elite still have issue compability app, not too good enough vs Macbook seeries with M series
Too bad it doesn't have a larger screen. Why don't they offer a 14 or 15" version?
Arm apps are coming pretty quick. It took Apple what 3 years for only a handful of apps it has compared to Windows? Patience is a bliss.
The surface pro is tiny as compared to apple very powerfull. Plus it has 16 gb ram. Thats why mac owners are stunned. Of course they prefer their os
What app doesn't run on ARM?
Snapdragon chip with the major W. Those speeds are too good, Macbooks finally have competition :)
Well speed is not everything
@damianwojcikiewicz3951ye absolutely, but it's a first generation product, so fingers crossed that iterations make it cheaper
@@travistouthang341software is also huge and windows has much more than Mac
@@soberanisfam1323not on ARM. Not yet. Hopefully they stick to this and devs get onboard.
I have m4 max and sf pro 11 - the sf11 takes it on averagae daily ...
Can someone please answer me this, does lightroom work well? and can I use the denoise function, if so will it process 50 photos in 30 mins/1 hour? Been looking at a portable solution for photo editing and need this feature in my work flow as well as the pen for note taking during meetings ect.
How is it as tablet-only device? My iPad is too limited to be used as work device
then buy a MacBook and keep the iPad around for when you want to use a tablet. A good 2in1 device is still not as good as two dedicated devices neither in terms of performance neither in terms of ux
@@jack_2612 yeah like a device that capable of 50% tablet and 90% laptop, that adds up as an 140% device for those dont want two devices. The main problems as tablet are: 1. too heavy(900g) 2.some of software doesnt support touch input (e.g. the authentication of my shopping website would fail if i use touch input to complete the "are you human" challenge). The main problem as laptop is that it cant stablely sit on my laptop
just don't use ipad. u're using an oversized screen iphone. new sp 11 is a full workstation device, the tablet only mode is not as user friendly as ipad, but it gets the job done, while ipad is user friendly, but u will almost never get ur job done in that device.
@@jack_2612 I bought SP9 to try out the UX and it's good to me. It replaced both MacBook and iPad
@@Bizmops it's true that surface is not as user friendly as iPad but surprisingly, it works for me. I use surface as tablet and it improve my productivity. Sadly, I bought surface pro 9 which still kinda jaggy but I guess I can't go back to using MacBook and iPad again
How's Handbrake significantly faster on Surface Pro? A few seconds doesn't mean significantly faster!
My bad, I should've made it more clear! For the sake of the test, I converted a relatively small video file so the difference's aren't big. When converting larger MXF files or really long videos, the time saving compounded and I saw 30s+ differences.
For people who have a student disability allowance how much will the surface pro 11 be?
I really don't understand why Microsoft doesn't make keyboards like the ipad keyboards for their surface. Why?
Not necessary with the built in tilt stand that is really really good
So.. you are saying a snap dragon device which at present can't run most of the windows software applications is better to a Mac Book Air which can run all the mac applications that you decided to keep the snap dragon device. Your job is casual browsing and watching videos?
The Flex keyboard is too expensive for what it offers. On the other hand, you can buy a new Signature keyboard or a basic type cover for around $100.
Are there any programs compiled for ARM?
Very few as mark said in his videos
Copilot! The display looks good!
3:32 Nice Review！ Could you share us the default wallpaper of Surface Pro 11 both dark and light edition download link to us? Thank you! 3:32
Copilot 😂 can't wait unboxing and installing mine, batteries are charged though 😅
I had a surface pro 11 for awhile, recently replaced it with an iPad Pro 13. For the right person, the surface pro will do just fine, and hell even replace the MacBook Air. Not for me. I prefer the iPad for sure.
Copilot, thank you for the video! The Surface Pro 11 OLED looks fantastic. I’m curious what your thoughts are on the iPad Pro M4 13 Inch, I think you would really like this device also.
Can I play age of empires 2 with this?
can you install metatrader 5 on this laptop?
Yes
In 14:23, you said you would pick the mac book air over the Surface Pro because of the disappointment in copilot features, but the mac book air does not have copilot or any other Ai features. I think you were going to pick the mac bookmair anyways. It seem like a bias review. 🤷🏾♂️
It’s about to get them this summer. He might have also meant the ms ai features aren’t worth their negatives (specially given that it’s Microsoft).
Now this is interesting!
Apakah cocok untuk editing foto ?
Great review Andrew. What was it like having both USB-C ports on the same side of the device? Also, what was palm rejection like while writing with the pen? I noticed in your video that your palm was semi off the screen when writing and drawing
Palm rejection is fine, no problem with it. USB-C ports is the same gripe with my MB Air, it's inconveninet but not a deal breaker
11:21 but you know it is a Tablet and you know ther is the Surface notebook too.
Faster? Don’t think so. Also app compatibility is a problem.
It's interesting how all these tech reviewers make it sound like the average user can simply switch between operating systems (for computers, phones, etc.) like changing clothes.
The stats and hardware are more often than not a moot point if we are already tied into an ecosystem.
Oohhh Attack on Titan!
you would probably pick the surface oled display over the macbook lcd display? probably? come on this one is a no brainer
Copilot 🌞
Funny, I don't find that the Surface Pro digs into my legs when using it on my lap.
Lol it ran out of battery during set up
I will say pro 10 with flex keyboard is the best combination right now. Too bad microsoft doesnt want to sell me pro 10 in my country as i am just a normal "home" user.....Sigh.
I just hate how it uses snapdragon.. it’s fast but isn’t compatible with like anything.
No thin bezels
That’s probably because it’s a tablet. You need to be able to hold it without touching the screen accidentally with your thumb