@@nobbynoris Please keep it down with the politics, few people want to think about their problems while they're entertained with such a video. Thank you
They were also hurting for money and were allegedly paid off to tell they faked it. I live in the area that their house stood and has a memorial around the foundation. The history of the Fox sisters is amazing.
The most jarring thing about Arthur Conan Doyle is that he was a doctor. So, that is, a scientist, by definition. If there is such a thing as a hero in exposing these parasites, it was Harry Houdini, whose dogged contempt for them never abated.
There was also this story about two girls who faked some photographs of fairies and Arthur Conan Doyle was so convinced that it was true, that they didn't want to embarrass him and decided to only tell the truth after he and another adult man that was defending their story had died. When originally it had just been a prank for their family and it blew out of proportion.
RE: Houdini was someone who truly wanted to believe which is why he was so thorough in his investigations. What got him started on debunking though was the medium who claimed to be able to channel Houdini's mother, but made the blunder by having her call him by his stage name and not his real name, Erich, and the fact his mother didn't speak English.
Arthur Conan Doyle's strange interest with spiritualism has always baffled me. His friendship with Harry Houdini, and Houdini's later attempts to expose mediums and spiritualists is fascinating.
"They weren't that old when they started exploiting ... people, but they were that young when they started lying," is such a gloriously written sentence. It carries so much weight in the argument presented. Beautifully done.
Few things frighten me more than the possibility of the living communicating with the dead. Most of my fear comes from knowing that even in death I'm going to end up having to work off the clock to get some project, visit, or clinical note done. I wonder if they'll still contribute to my 401k if I am a ghost employee? I hope so, that way I can ghost retire one day, but I probably can't draw ghost benefits until I'm at least 640 ghost years.
For a man who created one of the most iconic detectives of all time Canons Doyal was easy to fool and so stubborn and prideful that he could never admit he had been dupt
A sensitive, deep dive. There's a book titled Lily Dale: The Town That Talks to the Dead, about a place in upstate NY (I think) that is a whole town of mediums. I know people who have visited there within the last few years.
The original Fox sister’s home was moved to Lily Dale and it succumbed to a fire there. Someone in Lily Dale had the home rebuilt in its original site in Hydesville (now Newark) and that home too succumbed to a fire. What’s left of the foundation has a memorial around it and is maintained by Plymouth Spiritualist Church in nearby Rochester.
The rise of spiritualism in America during the 19th century/early 20th century has been attributed to the American Civil War. I found that interesting. Obviously there were other socio-economic factors at play as well, but the civil war really wounded the US in a very visceral sense. In times of great upheaval & grief people turn to spirituality for solace. The correlation made sense to me.
I feel Maggie gives a lesson to all fraudsters: people don't believe the _liar_, they believe the _lies_, because they want to believe them; the head of an army of fools has to go the way the fools choose, they aren't ever really in control.
6:35 omg the ad in the middle of the story smacks so hard of the old Suspense radio shows! The voice of Boris Karloff bringing terrifying life to the radio play, sponsored by Lipton tea! Great video!
I live in the town where the sisters had their spiritualist camp, while they were tearing it down me and my friend went up there one night and took bunch of photos. Some really weird things happened. We also got chased out. Looked back on the photos closer few months later. Bunch of people in the backgrounds of the photos or ghost/ demons you could say. I'll add photos below.
Have you read "Summerland" before? Its historical fiction set during this whole Boston seance-mumler era. Its really interesting and gets pretty dark. Women were not treated well, obviously.
Cinzia, if you ever want to come to the states and visit the places where the Fox Sisters lived and roamed, I’d love to have you. The site of their original home is about 15 minutes from my home, I often visit the grounds and find it very relaxing there. I love the Spiritualist religion and the Spiritualist Church in Rochester, NY called Plymouth Spiritualist Church is an amazing place and community
My gran belonged to the Greater World Spiritualist Church of Holland Park, London I think, back in the 1920's and thirties through to the 70's when she went off to join that realm herself.
Thanks for the video. Interesting subject. I’ve lived in haunted houses. I wasn’t kidding and those who believed believed. And those who didn’t, didn’t 😮
I’m a Spiritualist Medium, a follower of this religion, and I actually kinda like it. I did believe in mediumship before I knew of the religion and the fox sisters, but what solidified mediumship to me was when I began practicing giving readings to strangers. The amount of times I would get information I had no other way of knowing astounds me. It’s the same with others too. And honestly, Spiritualism didn’t just hit America and died out from frauds. It’s still strong and going in Canada, the UK, here in the USA, and Australia. And many other parts of the world in different names (Espiritismo, etc). Lastly, the evidence that the dead bring through their messages just proves it’s real. All the facts, details, and proof that Spirit brings solidifies it. But for most people, they won’t believe until it happens to them, so to that, to each their own.
Make sure you press share and 'copy link', it affects the algorithm more than any comments or likes. * *(At least, it did as of a couple years ago. Idk if its still this way. Jeff Holiday did an experiment for his channel a few years back, and it worked. But I'm not a RUclipsr, and its been a while. Who knows if they changed it. )
What an awesome story. There was an episode of Supernatural where there was this town of psychic and they mentioned Kate and Maggie Fox bi had no idea that based in any way based in reality. The Spiritualist movement has always fascinated me because there was this whole societal embracing of science and invention. They started to analyze everything scientifically, even the world of the spirit. I think in modern times we look down on them as ignorant and foolish. Personally, I believe mediums exist. I believe there are people who can commune with the dead. But, I think if someone is doing it for money, they’re full of shit. It doesn’t work like that, but it makes for great horror. The Others comes to mind.
People keep telling me my house is haunted. I don't get it, I've been here for 227 years and I haven't seen or heard anything....
@@leftcoaster67 good one, you old mountebank!
lol 😂
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It's so interesting to me that, even after they confessed to being frauds, people kept wanting to believe what they wanted to believe.
Often, if you attach a personal memory or emotion to a idea/incident, it's hard to face facts, detach and go back.
Often it is hard to believe something you've sided with or believed in whole heartedly when it is exposed as false... I'll stop there.
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Yeah, those people are usually called trump fans and q-anon. And working class tories in the UK.
@@nobbynoris Please keep it down with the politics, few people want to think about their problems while they're entertained with such a video. Thank you
They were also hurting for money and were allegedly paid off to tell they faked it. I live in the area that their house stood and has a memorial around the foundation. The history of the Fox sisters is amazing.
The most jarring thing about Arthur Conan Doyle is that he was a doctor. So, that is, a scientist, by definition.
If there is such a thing as a hero in exposing these parasites, it was Harry Houdini, whose dogged contempt for them never abated.
There was also this story about two girls who faked some photographs of fairies and Arthur Conan Doyle was so convinced that it was true, that they didn't want to embarrass him and decided to only tell the truth after he and another adult man that was defending their story had died. When originally it had just been a prank for their family and it blew out of proportion.
Amazing Randi exposed fraudsters too.
RE: Houdini was someone who truly wanted to believe which is why he was so thorough in his investigations. What got him started on debunking though was the medium who claimed to be able to channel Houdini's mother, but made the blunder by having her call him by his stage name and not his real name, Erich, and the fact his mother didn't speak English.
Doyle and Houdini were at one point traveling together to test these things. AC was always a believer, it seems. Houdini broke them every time.
So much for the infallibility of "science".
Arthur Conan Doyle's strange interest with spiritualism has always baffled me.
His friendship with Harry Houdini, and Houdini's later attempts to expose mediums and spiritualists is fascinating.
Doyle had interest in spiritual things, even before the loss of his son in 1918.
"They weren't that old when they started exploiting ... people, but they were that young when they started lying," is such a gloriously written sentence. It carries so much weight in the argument presented. Beautifully done.
Me: "I feel sad. The day is too long."
Me sees Cinzia posted: "Woo!!! What a great day!"
Few things frighten me more than the possibility of the living communicating with the dead. Most of my fear comes from knowing that even in death I'm going to end up having to work off the clock to get some project, visit, or clinical note done. I wonder if they'll still contribute to my 401k if I am a ghost employee? I hope so, that way I can ghost retire one day, but I probably can't draw ghost benefits until I'm at least 640 ghost years.
😂 ROFLMAO! Apparently, after inflation only taxes are guaranteed these days.
Nobody is fascinated that these two girls can crack there toes so loud that people think it's spirits from the dead? 😮
Not that unusual to me, every time I move there's a barrage of cracks like that - maybe I should capitalize on it by channeling "Machine Gun" Kelly?
@@don-eb3fj lmao 😂
I’m with you! Now, if it was my ankles or knees that’d be a different story 😂
Happy to support you, the deep dives, and ghosts. Your empathy and scripting here are top notch.
I really like the way you narrate your content, listening to you all these topics feel fascinating. Good work! 🎉❤
Thanks for this fascinating video Cinzia!
It's almost the plot to a Scooby Doo episode. "And I Would Have Gotten Away With It Too, If It Weren't For You Meddling Kids"
For a man who created one of the most iconic detectives of all time Canons Doyal was easy to fool and so stubborn and prideful that he could never admit he had been dupt
A sensitive, deep dive. There's a book titled Lily Dale: The Town That Talks to the Dead, about a place in upstate NY (I think) that is a whole town of mediums. I know people who have visited there within the last few years.
The original Fox sister’s home was moved to Lily Dale and it succumbed to a fire there. Someone in Lily Dale had the home rebuilt in its original site in Hydesville (now Newark) and that home too succumbed to a fire. What’s left of the foundation has a memorial around it and is maintained by Plymouth Spiritualist Church in nearby Rochester.
Searching up Satori and Cody on YT will show you a modern example of this. Very interesting!
I live in Buffalo and have never heard this story before. It’s interesting to hear about a story from a nearby area
This story was so well told. Thank you!
Also, thank you for finding suitable and discrete music at a nicely balenced level with your voice!
As a medium myself, I loved this episode!
Same
I remember reading about these ladies in a book at the library and I thought it was cool that they were so enterprising
The rise of spiritualism in America during the 19th century/early 20th century has been attributed to the American Civil War. I found that interesting. Obviously there were other socio-economic factors at play as well, but the civil war really wounded the US in a very visceral sense. In times of great upheaval & grief people turn to spirituality for solace. The correlation made sense to me.
I feel Maggie gives a lesson to all fraudsters: people don't believe the _liar_, they believe the _lies_, because they want to believe them; the head of an army of fools has to go the way the fools choose, they aren't ever really in control.
Just saw this title, don't need to see this. It's absolutely idiocy. But thank you, my lady, for pointing it out
Thank you for making the video!!
Spiritualism is true!
My cousins brothers dog dreamt about it once and told my cousins brother how he spoke with the spirits.
It just goes to show that people will believe what fits with their beliefs, regardless of contradictory evidence. Great video Cinzia ❤.
6:35 omg the ad in the middle of the story smacks so hard of the old Suspense radio shows! The voice of Boris Karloff bringing terrifying life to the radio play, sponsored by Lipton tea!
Great video!
I live in the town where the sisters had their spiritualist camp, while they were tearing it down me and my friend went up there one night and took bunch of photos. Some really weird things happened. We also got chased out. Looked back on the photos closer few months later. Bunch of people in the backgrounds of the photos or ghost/ demons you could say. I'll add photos below.
I hope you get more views. I love these videos. Ill have to see about using patreon maybe.
Have you read "Summerland" before? Its historical fiction set during this whole Boston seance-mumler era. Its really interesting and gets pretty dark. Women were not treated well, obviously.
This is the absolute best overview of the Fox Sisters that I've seen yet. Extremely well done!
I’ve heard of the Fox sisters but didn’t know their whole story. Well done!
The spiritualist movement even built an entire town. Lily Dale, New York.
Well done Cinzia!! As always, sensitive and on point. ❤
The story of the artist and medium Georgiana Houghton from around the same period is interesting Her art is fantastic please look her up.
Good topic for Spooky Season
Have you written about the cottingley(sp?) Faeries?
Cinzia, if you ever want to come to the states and visit the places where the Fox Sisters lived and roamed, I’d love to have you. The site of their original home is about 15 minutes from my home, I often visit the grounds and find it very relaxing there. I love the Spiritualist religion and the Spiritualist Church in Rochester, NY called Plymouth Spiritualist Church is an amazing place and community
Good Afternoon Cinzia
My gran belonged to the Greater World Spiritualist Church of Holland Park, London I think, back in the 1920's and thirties through to the 70's when she went off to join that realm herself.
Excellent work! I've heard this story before, but never with as much detail in the later lives. Nicely done!
I loved this. It made me sad, in a strange kind of way.
Thanks for the video. Interesting subject. I’ve lived in haunted houses. I wasn’t kidding and those who believed believed. And those who didn’t, didn’t 😮
I truly enjoyed listening to this!
I’m a Spiritualist Medium, a follower of this religion, and I actually kinda like it. I did believe in mediumship before I knew of the religion and the fox sisters, but what solidified mediumship to me was when I began practicing giving readings to strangers. The amount of times I would get information I had no other way of knowing astounds me. It’s the same with others too.
And honestly, Spiritualism didn’t just hit America and died out from frauds. It’s still strong and going in Canada, the UK, here in the USA, and Australia. And many other parts of the world in different names (Espiritismo, etc).
Lastly, the evidence that the dead bring through their messages just proves it’s real. All the facts, details, and proof that Spirit brings solidifies it. But for most people, they won’t believe until it happens to them, so to that, to each their own.
Excellent opening to Fall spooky season thank you Cinzia
Thank you for this really interesting video
This was phenomenal
Thank you! So very much.
Very cool! Great content for spooky season!
Here, Mr Splitfoot!
I don't think I'll hear something funnier this year than the idea of a mystic gathering a crowd of 3000 to demonstrate that they were a fraud.
Make sure you press share and 'copy link', it affects the algorithm more than any comments or likes. *
*(At least, it did as of a couple years ago. Idk if its still this way. Jeff Holiday did an experiment for his channel a few years back, and it worked. But I'm not a RUclipsr, and its been a while. Who knows if they changed it. )
This whole thing was wild lmao great vid
Good stuff.
What an awesome story. There was an episode of Supernatural where there was this town of psychic and they mentioned Kate and Maggie Fox bi had no idea that based in any way based in reality. The Spiritualist movement has always fascinated me because there was this whole societal embracing of science and invention. They started to analyze everything scientifically, even the world of the spirit. I think in modern times we look down on them as ignorant and foolish. Personally, I believe mediums exist. I believe there are people who can commune with the dead. But, I think if someone is doing it for money, they’re full of shit. It doesn’t work like that, but it makes for great horror. The Others comes to mind.
Very interesting 👻💀👻🖤
The real origin of rap music.
I hate that I love this
Aye! 😆
Died drunk and alone. Fitting end for a lifelong con.
The real horror was still believing the hoax
I will be shocked if I don't see the ubiquitous "follow Sloan Bella" comment on this video. LoL She is a modern day version of the Fox Sisters
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Were the bones they found under the house from a dog? Could have been a House Grim?
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Not sure spelling bye with yer toes would be worth the ticket price but then it was a much more boring age.
Thank you for the red lipstick.
Very attractive