Was the God Pan Evil? | Dark Mythologies
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I cite this book A LOT in the video. If you fancy reading it, I've attached an affiliate link to it: Robichaud, Paul. 2021. Pan: The Great God's Modern Return. amzn.to/3K4Ug57
Borgeaud, Philippe. 1983. “The Death of the Great Pan: The Problem of Interpretation.” History of Religions 22, no. 3: 254-83. www.jstor.org/stable/1062506.
Jenkyns, Richard. 1989. “Virgil and Arcadia.” The Journal of Roman Studies 79: 26-39. doi.org/10.2307/301178.
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It’s pretty common for people who are Irish to have Scandinavian ancestry since they conquered Ireland quite a few times in history. It’s where the stereotypical “Irish” red hair comes from!
yes, Dublin was one of several Viking settlements!
This percentage is way too big to be explained by Viking conquest.
@@eurosis Ireland is about 10% redheads, which is higher slightly higher than amongst Scandinavians.
Not that it really matter, because Celtic people often have fair or red hair too.
@@ultrademigod I was referring to the percentage of Scandinavian ancestry in LotL's DNA results. 10% means it must have come from a great-grandparent, not Viking invaders centuries ago.
My experience with Pan was positive! The most intriguing dream I ever had was one where I found a glass whistle, blew on it, and Pan appeared. He told me to blow on it anytime I needed him. Then we ran around playing before he ran off and disappeared. He seemed very kind! I hadn’t thought of Pan in a very long time and had to research him after having the dream. I interpreted the dream as advice to not take myself too seriously and have carefree fun from time to time.
Thanks i have same experience with pan
you must be a good person i am a bit jealous honestly greek deities are all about been virtues as a person they appear only to good persons and those appearance are signs about something usually although you can interpret them however you want.
if you saw pan himself know his body is a metaphor for duality.
His human part means the souls they are searching for a way to be free and ascend and the beast side is the material side so these could mean you may search a bit the spirituality but you are still bound by some material needs or whatever.
My take on Pan was that he is "the god of the wild forest". He could induce panic or madness if you got lost in the woods, and he has this duality between night and day. During the day he was a cute fury fornicator, but at night he became a frightening predator. All this is probably a modern take that people put together, drawing inspiration from historical accounts. I like that your videos give a more accurate historical account. Its hard to find that in digestible form.
I do not think there is duality just because he is half goat and half man i strongly disagree his goat legs were a metaphor for him having strong legs like a goat because goats can jump in the edges of cliffs and not real goat legs as for his horns back the ancient ways they used to wear animal skull masks thus the horns had were from that mask not sure why everyone image poor pan as half goat half man really. There is a deeper meaning behind pan other than what you described but you are unlucky i cannot find a post i found few years ago.
Pan is the reason, 'Peter' becomes Peter Pan and Peters father becomes Captain Hook in the original Peter Pan trilogy.
'Was Pan evil?"' got my curiosity. 'I am 0% English' got my full undivided attention.
I always loved Pan's cameo in Wind and the Willows
One of my favorite parts of that book, probably second only to the picnic. If you haven’t reread it in a while, I recommend it, especially if you keep in mind that the original title of the book-changed by the publisher a week before it went to print-was _The Wind in the Reeds._
Pretty much every character in every story
From Aladdin to Luke Skywalker, and Neo, all the same character, even the villain, to represent my duality, and the self doubt and the demon I fought, like Gandalf, now it serves me, like a Gargoyle, or Djinn, Genie
The claymation show ? Or Disney ?
Minor historical note, Constantine the Great legalized the practice of Christianity in the Empire, it was Theodosius I about 80 years later who made it the official state religion.
Considering, over the centuries, the various Norse settlers and raiders of the Isles, having a bit of Scandinavian heritage should not be all that surprising.
Could be quite a long time ago
Vikings also operated and intermaried in the baltic and eastern europ areas.
I have a statue of pan from Greece my friend got me it's very cool small but really cute , I love that the word panic came from pan.
Not exactly if pan comes from" panik"i mean that is what i am hearing but it could be from the word "παν" meaning everything and if you read the orphic hymns there is apart that says his human members are parts of nature he is nature deity and he was one of the first gods it shows that ancient people probably people before the time the cities existed during the time of small settlements in nature that is when they made pan.
It stacks because it is in that time that priests or more likely the settlement shamans wore animal skulls in their heads so that is why he has horns on his legs or at least that is my interpretation
Keep in mind that 'madness' in Greek times was not how we view it today. It was more similar to having an "episode" in our modern parlance than it was being mentally ill.
Being drunk was a form of madness, being too obviously emotional could be labeled madness, panic was a form of madness, hence the name. Dionysus could and would inflict madness as well and he was part of the Pantheon.
So don't think of inflicting madness as inflicting a permanent mental illness, it more meant "make them have an episode".
My first thought is, "Pan is neither good nor evil. Like all gods (yes, even that one), Pan is powerful, arbitrary, and interested only in what Pan is interested in. The good goddess is good because that is her interest. Pan is interested in the wild. Even Loki - he's Loki because he likes to stir things up." Also - when you're delighted with something, the whole building lights up.
I agree with you
And a god of nature, who can befikle and wild by nature. Alsoits not likeas other godscat have terrible temper.
He is as he is
He is like the wild, like nature, sometimes good, sometimes bad, unpredictable and sometimes horny, just like what wild animals do out In nature.
This comment also brings up the modern issue with the words "Worship" and "Idolize". Because of Christianity and other Abrahamic Faiths, as well as some other similar morally-polarized faith, we view it as meaning "think is perfect" or "want to be like".
However, worship used to be very transactional. You didn't worship and make offerings to a god because you believed they were 'good', you did it to obtain a fraction of their power. Likewise, idolization means to raise something to godhood, but godhood does not mean noble, just, or good intrinsically. It just means powerful.
Even if a god like Pan was "evil", it wouldn't mean his worshippers were. That's a transplantation of Abrahamic outlook that any worship of any thing that is not their God is inherently evil.
Always a pleasure to indulge in one of your lovely videos. Thank you for all the effort you put into these!
Glad you like them!
Fantastic as always. It made me smile to hear that Marsus suggested that Pan and Jesus were interlinked, because, although strictly a casual observer of religion and folklore, I've often found it curious that so many of the stories that are echoed in the crucifixion center trickster-type gods.
It’s my mostly uneducated opinion that Pan was a god of panic/lust and overall the crossing and respecting of boundaries between the wild and civilized.
You've so quickly become one my favourite channels. I adore your narrative style that works so well with the subjects.
Glad you enjoy it!
"El Gran dios Pan ha muerto" You made me remember (in my own language😅) reading that quote in a book that mention that story talking about the soon to come end of Paganism and the advent of Christianity as the new religion. For me is curious how Pan, being part man part animal, represented the union of man and nature, or the part of mankind that still resisted "civilization"/"reason", still in contact with that "darker"/"occult" part of our past devoted to a more harmonic relationship with our surroundings. And how that dichotomy comes and goes throughout out history.
About the DNA test, I´m curious to take one, as an an average argentinian I know I have strong european/criollo heritage and a bit of indian, but I´d like to confirm how is my family tree.
Greetings Cinzia! Great video as always.
No esperaba otra persona hablara español en un vídeo así XD
"Therianthropic", what a wonderful word. And one I got to learn today!
I never thought him evil. I’m sure seeing him would a terrible sight to behold.
I love The Waterboys' song 'The Return of Pan'. Mike Scott really captures the essence of Pan and even utilizes the story of the passing ship. They did another Pan related song too called 'The Pan Within'. (incidentally, The Waterboys line-ups have consisted mostly of musicians from Ireland, Scotland and Wales)
“I know you, you are that merry sprite called Robin Goodfellow.
Thou speakst the right, I am that merry wanderer of the night.” Midsummer night dream 2:1
Read Arthur Machen "Great god Pan".... thats a trip for sure
I love that story!
We worship Pan, and Odin, and the Green man, the the Christians show up and declare us devil worshipping.
Tell them it's the same thing
Santa is Satan, Saturn, the Lord, Esus is the Celtic God of Death, and the Son of Man is a God made in Man's own image the God of Destruction, the Sun 🌞 whereas the Sun of God is the Moon, of the Night of Aquarius, so dance with me in the Pale light of the Hunters Moon upon the Midnight Sun, and do this to remember me
The devil hades and loki actually have a lot in common, if not all one in the same being.
Things are shifting. Green Man has always been welcomed, yet sometimes things get twisted, but the truth always comes to the surface. ✌️
Thank you so much for this wonderful Pan video Cinzia!
You are so welcome!
the phrase "Randy Pan the Goat-Boy" ....thankyou Bill.... But I also find amusement that Puck is also represented with Oak, Ash and Thorn.
Every time I get a notification for one of Cinzia's videos, it makes my day. I really love these, and I always feel like I learn a lot!
Excellent! Pan has always been a favorite. :) Thanks for the scholarly but engaging treatment.
You make the world a smarter place. ❤
I’ve heard the “pan is dead” quote may be a misunderstanding from a guy trying to hear someone on a boat from shore.
True, I was yelling "Pan's bread!!!" As I held up a loaf. I thought they were weeping from the beauty of the weave he did with the dough!
Thank you for posting such great content. I really enjoy your discussion of these topics.
I found you this morning while browsing through the interwebs of people and Lady you sure are a number. I look forward to following your pages to see the what else you find while searching over the old volumes of man and their lore. Thank you for your knowledge and sharing.
My only complaint is that these videos typically come out in the morning where I am, thus I have no option but to force myself not to fall asleep to your soothing voice! Great video as always :)
I get them during midnight, usually I’m already asleep or ready to, so I end up having to watch them in the morning 😂 still the same struggles 😅
I like the myth that Pan sprung up from the ground, from nature he came, of nature he is.
I just found your channel recently and think your content is fantastic. I'm a painter and am currently working on a mythology series. I do a lot of research on my subjects before I start a painting and your channel has been incredibly helpful. Thank you so much for sharing this knowledge.
I recently came across your videos, and I am so glad I did. It's all rather interesting. Thank you
Glad you like them!
Ah, I see the summer has gotten to you as well, dear Lady Cinzia. :D
You should do series on different gods and goddesses of the pantheon! Based on a specific myth or not, I would EAT IT UP!!! 😥🫡🙏🏻
I don't think evil as much as BORED AF. That is the Creators dilemma, boredom as above and below.
What's the difference?
This was fantastic ❤
I only knew that Pan had goat legs before this video. Thanks, Cinzia!
You're welcome!
I've been following your channel for quite a while, really enjoying your content and finding it very informative. This particular video prompted me to comment, to say a massive thank you, as at the moment I'm writing my first novel, a modern queer pagan retelling of the Divine Comedy, with Asmoday as one of the chiefs of the kings of hell, with many gods of the world pantheons acting as guides and guardians.
The chapters I've just released had Morrigana and Baldur acting as divine guides, and the chapter I'm working on now has Pan as the chief guide, and I'm loving hearing your perspective on Pan.
Keep up the amazing work :)
Please put me in the lowest circle, just chilling... No explanation. 😂
As a Pan devotee, pansexual, and pangendered human, I cannot WAIT to sit with this episode. Thank you!
Given that he is a God of nature, I’m pretty sure he would be insulted by the idea of a person who refuses nature in their own humanity and secondarily. The term is bisexual unless you mean all, as in everything in which case you need to go to jail because goats can’t consent.
@@charlottewalnut3118 Yep I mean all. And I can put you at ease by also clarifying that am talking about humans only. 😂 The all is in reference to gender as a spectrum-my own gender is multifaceted and not binaried, and I am attracted to people across the gender spectrum. 🖤
Not sure what you mean by refusing nature?
@@r_r_r_rThis person was just being transphobic, don't worry
Very interesting story of Pan's development and great delivery! Thank you.
Your videos are devilishly good
I appreciate that
Great video (as always!). I always appreciate how well-researched and well-presented your videos are. I always feel like I’ve learned something! 🤓 Unrelated side note, I love how British people say “renaissance” - it sounds so much nicer in your accent than mine! 😂
top of thee day educational,amusing,tasteful, and quite smoothing take care
Is it true that panic attacks were explained in Greek mythology in such a way that sometimes Pan caused panic in people to entertain himself, or is the connection between panic and Pan a modern folk etymology and made up?
I think there is some myths about him causing panic attacks, but what I heard is its his screaming that caused it. There is also a cave system that is in the Greek area that sounds really eerie because of air passing through it and the Greeks called it the marriage of pan.
God of Plagues and Medicine, like Imhotep, or Apollo, Asclepius, Eshmun
God of healing and remedies, Baptism derives from Hot Springs
In reference to your sponsorship Where did that come from as a turn of phrase was kind of silly 😜 you know exactly where it came from.
Your videos and narration style are amazingly comforting and well done.
I found your channel through another channel about your story on going limited shopping for a year.
Good stuff, Kiddo.
Thank you for making this! I'm writing a novel which centers around Pan and a lot of this is really useful. Especially for the second act which I've been stuck on for a year.
Interesting video. Thanks.
Aloha, thanks.
Loved it.
dude burned my house down cuz i wasn't ready to evolve. depends on ur definition of evil i guess but there's a reason ppl bury their copies of panparadox under the ground somewhere when they're done reading it lol.
Nasty trick 😂
I find it funny u didn’t know it’s in ur blood and naturally drawn. Proves our connection and importance to remember ❤
Brilliant
The unknown messenger that anounced "Pan is dead" was the, obscure, philosopher Fredericus Nietzscheous😂
Loving these videos. Mostly unrelated but for real you sound like Galadriel from the LotR movies and I mean that very positively.
Celtic Queen🤩🤩🤩
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Per the idea that Pan is fathered by all of his suiters... this is likely just ancient retconning in attempt at etymology. Since Pan means "all" most myths relating to his origin somehow include the word as part of his story. In Homer's account, he is accept by "all" of the Gods. In the Orphic hymns, he is "the god of All"... the chaotic and ecstatic counterpoint to the concept of Physis... the Universe in flowing growth. It is also possible that it could be related to his status as a Rustic god... a god for the common people and the artisocracy alike... a god for all.
Love me some Pan
Thank you
THANK YOU
I will be breaking guideline rule number 3 by saying your accent is positively delightful.
I was also wondering if you heard the theory of Pan being dead being a mistranslation and it was Tammuz's cult mourning him as a ritual (from the OSP video on Hermes)?
And could you do a video on Puck, Puca, and other puck-like fairies and goblins of the British Isles?
(I know my questions break rule number 2, but until Zuckerberg releases those brain chips, I don't think google has answers to your personal knowledge and plans...yet.)
Outstanding! Gratitude to Playlister for sharing wisdom of the ages. Pan = Panicand Promiscuity.
Not mine just in a site i found but i thought it would be cool to translate it and post it
Its name probably comes from the root pa, which means guarding or nurturing, from which the verb "paomai" (to acquire, to keep) comes from.
Panas, as his name suggests, symbolizes the World, the Pan? Its ambiguous form perhaps symbolizes the harmony of the world that arose out of chaos, which the cosmic divine powers serve and maintain.
Pan the son of Hermes is two-brained (half-man, half-goat), because speech expresses everything and is constantly revolving, and is of two kinds, true and false. Well, the true part of him is lion and divine and dwells above the abode of the gods, while the false part lives below among the crowd and is rough and tragic. Because most myths and lies revolve around this issue, that is, the tragic life.
Pan flirts with the Nymphs, because these Entities undertake the weaving of the soul with the body, during incarnation, so they sustain Life. And the Word manifests and is cultivated within a Perfect Being that Lives in the sublunar fields.
Pan, according to the myth, is in love with Aphrodite because those souls who incarnate and receive the influence of speech, tend towards the Notional Kallos, represented by the Goddess, harmonizing their surroundings, according to Timaeon, which are disturbed by the entrance of of soul in matter. That is why Pan plays the Syringe, which has Seven flutes in an array, symbolizing the human Soul with its Seven Centers and by playing Music (supplication) harmonizes it.
The combination of the human and animal form of Panos symbolizes, on a human level, the world-historical event of the Promethean man's exit from the caves and forests, when he separated himself from the rest of the animal kingdom, creating human civilization.
The lower animal part of Pana symbolizes the animal instincts and passions that keep man captive in matter, while the upper part represents the thinking man. The belt has always been a symbol of isolation of the upper torso, as closest to the higher nature of man, the soul and spirit which distinguishes man from the rest of the animal kingdom.
The lower part of the trunk being closest to the ground symbolized matter. For this reason, the initiates also wore the purple belt around their waists, as a sign of their initiation, and of the knowledge that man is superior to his animal passions, as "above religion".
Horns always symbolize, as we have often mentioned, the connection of man with the Divine. Horns also symbolize the moon, which illuminates the darkness, borrowing light from the Sun. Man's purpose is to become self-luminous, and not heteroluminous like the Moon.
In this way, Pan is the hierophant who leads the mystic's soul towards self-knowledge and "Theosis". Its symbol is the goat which climbs the difficult paths of the paths of knowledge and self-knowledge.
Panas in his lower monstrous animal state, like all monstrous beings in Greek mythology, represent animal passions, mental weaknesses, defects, perversions and phobias. In his higher human status he symbolizes not only the intelligent man, but the man who tries to conquer "self-knowledge".
"Pan, Pan, Greek god Pan: one half goat, the other half MAAAAAAAN"
I was researching my family history recently and I did a bunch of research in assocation to what I discovered. I'm Scottish/Cherokee and Germanic. The middle eastern and scandinavian dna in Scotland and Ireland was an interesting story related to "Goidal Glas" and a migration from Egypt and Scythia and then also the Scandinavian's integrated with the Irish and Scottish during the Viking invasions...s
The answer is Vikings.
Like Chicken Man, they were everywhere!
Phoenicians, Sea Kings, Pharisees,Pharoahs of the Sea, Vikings, Venetia, Pirates, Pyre Rites, Scots, Invaders, trespassers, Sons of Fire 🔥
On the subject of the image of the great god Pan, with the head of a goat. Is it possible that image is connected to stories of Pan causing panic with a shout. The scream of a goat in distress is stunning to hear and see for that matter. A goat screaming opens its mouth quite wide making a bit of a visual spectacle. It can be a little scary to the uninitiated. Under the right circumstances one would not be blamed for feeling the slightest temptation to panic being faced with the sight and sound. It may have been a suggestion to whosoever made up the story of the great god Pan causing panic with a shout. After all, what the plain old goat can do the great god Pan must do oh so much moreso, eh?
Capricorn
The Capstone, or Phoenix, Eye of Providence, or Prophecy
In the land of the Blind, the Third Eyed man is Pan
That bit about Pan being dead because Christ had died reminds me of the figure of Asmodeus in the church of Rennes-Le-Château which bears an inscription in his (left?) wing in old hebraic script meaning Jesus. Your videos are always uber interesting and rich with varying readings of these ancient symbols. Sending love from Montréal.
Et en Arcadia Ego. The picture by Nicholas Poussin. I think I remember this from Holy blood Holy grail.
Reincarnation
Dru E Io Set te Ari Matea
Joseph of Arimathea
Jesus is the Celtic God of Death
Joseph's literary creation, and a curse on the Romans
You might be 0% English, I know you are 100% Awesome. I always enjoy your content, but youtube is not sharing it with me. So I need to check on your channel once in a while to see what you have uploaded lately,
Wasn't Marsia the satyr who challenged Apollo?
Interesting, if Pan is the god of Shepherds and Christ is depicted as a human Shepherd with a flock, what's going on?
Re: your results. All of those fit with your mother's other half being scandinavian, as a lot of scandinavian folks ended up in the Baltic, Eastern Europe, and even Middle East.
That's really interesting to know! My father's side was totally Irish, so it would be my mother who has the Scandinavian/East European regions.
Yes, the Vikings traded all over the place!
@@CinziaDuBois entertainingly? Lots of Scandinavian genes to be found in Ireland too (Dublin was a Danish holding for centuries).
Not trying to be nitpicky but hopefully helpful, your pop filter seem to be a bit too close to the microphone and so you still get bass heavy "puffs" coming through. Try moving it closer to your mouth, the distance between micophone and mesh should be no less than 10 cm.
God I love your voice
Πάνα καλώ κρατερόν, νόμιον, κόσμοιο τό σύμπαν,
ουρανόν ηδέ θάλασσαν ιδέ χθόνα παμβασίλειαν
καί πύρ αθάνατον: τάδε γάρ μέλη εστί τά Πανός.
ελθέ, μάκαρ, σκιρτητά, περίδρομε, σύνθρονε ''Ωραις,
αιγομελές, βακχευτά, φιλένθεε, αστροδίαιτε,
αρμονίαν κόσμοιο κρέκων φιλοπαίγμονι μολπήι,
φαντασιών επαρωγέ, φόβων έκπαγλε βροτείων,
αιγονόμοις χαίρων ανά πίδακας ηδέ τε βούταις,
εύσκοπε, θηρητήρ, 'Ηχούς φίλε, σύγχορε νυμφών,
παντοφυής, γενέτωρ πάντων, πολυώνυμε δαίμον,
κοσμοκράτωρ, αυξητά, φαεσφόρε, κάρπιμε Παιάν,
αντροχαρές, βαρύμηνις, αληθής Ζεύς ο κεράστης.
σοί γάρ απειρέσιον γαίης πέδον εστήρικται,
είκει δ' ακαμάτου πόντου τό βαθύρροον ύδωρ
'Ωκεανός τε πέριξ † εν ύδασι † γαίαν ελίσσων,
αέριόν τε μέρισμα τροφής, ζωοίσιν έναυσμα,
καί κορυφής εφύπερθεν ελαφροτάτου πυρός όμμα.
βαίνει γάρ τάδε θεία πολύκριτα σαίσιν εφετμαίς:
αλλάσσεις δέ φύσεις πάντων ταίς σαίσι προνοίαις
βόσκων ανθρώπων γενεήν κατ' απείρονα κόσμον.
αλλά, μάκαρ, βακχευτά, φιλένθεε, βαίν' επί λοιβαίς
ευιέροις, αγαθήν δ' όπασον βιότοιο τελευτήν
Πανικόν εκπέμπων οίστρον επί τέρματα γαίης Γένοιτο.
:'( at work... again 😢
Is, dear. Not was. Is everything evil? Granted, there is evil in the world, but when one is a pantheist and views the whole as divine, does it follow that moral consistency is inherent with a multiverse filled with an infinite variety of moral types? Besides, what is moral and what isn't? That's an entirely different issue.
Cottagecore? I've never heard of this.
Unfortunately the sponsor's service isn't available in my country😢
As a panromantic demi, I stan Pan. His pushiness is problematic in some stories, but I think that reflects the writers' psyches more than his true nature... which is Nature. "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" chapter of The Wind in the Willows is one of my favorite things.
No, I'm definitely pushy, impatient and jealous
Oh, lady! i love this story (having a goat like face and hairy legs), but please, i also much enjoy watching you voice them, your lovely little smiles and tics. I know you speak rather softly, but please don't hide behind that hideous microphone cover thing.
❤❤❤
So Pan, nature, is God and All (Bum, Bum Bum!)
Io Pan ! Khaire Pan !
Sign? Don’t blow it off it’s vita in the physical.
So again, no one expects the catholic church, again. Through i can live with jesus as pans wild brother.
@@Eet_Mia Pan counterpart, philosophically at least, is Heracles.
Pan, the God who dies, again and again. 🕳️🍏
Heracles, the mortal who didn't. ✊🌹
The struggle of two far away brothers : Nature and History, one under the realm of Aeon, the other under the guidance of Chronos.
(And the last of the three entity of time, Kairos, 👁️ is Dionysus mastery, the one who is born twice, Nature's History : evolution as such, but also History's Nature : we call it Art, culture.)
Yes Pan counterpart is Heracles
The goat and the ram, the struggle of the unconscious and the conscious in understanding and accepting each other, the unconscious shall become humor, the conscious trust.
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Hail Pan!
Pan is a god and never dies..He was never evil..
I'm more English than you, Even though i'm in the U S , 😂 Thanks for sharing your Artful Work ❣️
Pan is a Primal from old forest European animism. Male fertility, male lust. The Abrahamics are all about sexual repression. Of course they hated him. As a Primal, there is no good or evil to his existence, he just is and is necessary to the whole. He's also one of the musical gods, the divine artists.
Could not agree more
@@TheBestOne_hi_34 Given that the old gods were almost wiped by the Christians, whose entire organization at that time considered being eternally chaste and celibate the holiest ideal... Abrahamic god doesn't like competition, especially other gods having a good time.
@@TheBestOne_hi_34 y'all think sex is a shameful thing unless it fits into a narrow tiny box that you approve over and tbh you just 100% proved OPs point. Christians looks down on pan for the exact reason OP said and you're confirming it. There is nothing dirty about any form of safe consensual sex. Period. If you see sex as a sacred act then whatever. But y'all use it as a reason to look down on anyone who doesn't agree and it's weird as hell.
@@TheBestOne_hi_34 If both partners aren't in the same freedom of doing everything they want, with their shared lust and love as the only guides, then it's not sex.
Yes, quite cruel assumption.
Sex is spiritual, but I have not a single envy to invite God in a shared bed, there's clearly not the place, and I bet he is a snoring one in his sleep.
Truth is, in my book God only existed to devote sincerely your soul to him, and then find a girl, the girl, who will make you betray him in a heartbeat if she asked.
@@aelfredrex8354the fact Yaweh is touted as 'the one God' always gets me. He was literally a storm and war god of a tribe or raiders. Who had much in common with the storm god of the philistines (whom they invaded I'll add. The philistines being storms of agriculture not chaotic too). The cults of Baal being demonised (maybe fairly so, with sacrifice practices) due to 'gods envy of' false gods'. Yaheh being subordinate to the God El, creating the later phrase Elohim. I don't think Christians actually know a whole lot about thier God 99% the time. It would be days of waffling material, to cover the issues with the one god Yawehism .
She has viking blood 😊
For me as a person who has studied religions at university it’s very very interesting to see once again how Christianity really tries to demonise every polytheism of the former times. For me it’s very important to see the Bible as a historic book and to know the history why things are written in the Bible and by Christian philosophers after that how they are.
Thank you for this info. It's still hard to listen to you speak
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