Like raping(at the very least attempting) at broad daylight and leaving after the deed is normal for them. So taking care of the scant three women sounds beyond tame.
Is curious how many modern portraits of Hades present him as a figure somewhat similar to Satan. But he wasn´t a evil god and the greek underworld certainly wasn´t Hell. Great video Lady!
Not really surprising. Christianity took over and equated one dark underground death boy with their own underground death boy. The average person has a very simple/christian view of life and death. Death=bad. And they project this to every other religion. Hades is an asocial king, but he's in charge of the dead so he must be evil! Anubis just prepares bodies, but he's a death god so he must be evil!
@@casserole1595 Not really; Satan/Devil in Christian Demonology has more in common with (and influenced by) the Zoroastrian Angra Mainyu (Ahriman). The Associating of the Greek Hades (and the Germanic Hel in turn) with Demons was a later attribution by Medieval Christians.
I swear to all that is good that Cinzia looks at my writers block and goes “well, more Hades research is gonna be good for her”. It’s like you know I’m looking angrily at my screen and fuming. Thank you for the video ❤
Speaks ten lines Refuses to elaborate Leaves What a chad! I have been loving this series, it's so interesting how often names of figures and places from Greek mythology turn up all across pop culture, getting more context is such a delight.
The fact hades is called the unseen is due to euphemism, the concept is that the ancient greeks didnt want to see him due to his involvement with the underworld. That is evidenced by the fact Hades or in ancient greek ᾍδης is composed by the A privetive and the infinitive ιδειν which is the infinitive of past simple B' of the verb οραω wich mean see. Thus Hades the romanized name for Ἅιδης or Ἅδης should be translated to the Unseen
What a fascinating look at the mysterious underworld ruler, Hades! In a masterful dive into Greek mythology, this video reveals the secrets of this multi-faceted god. I find it utterly enthralling since it clarifies Hades' function as ruler of the dead and his dealings with both other deities and humans. Even the most complex parts of his mythology are easy to understand because of the interesting and comprehensive explanations. Your wonderful work of breathing new life into old tales is much appreciated.
I think an interesting thread is that Hades either does not want to be seen or cannot/should not be looked upon. You mention his helm of invisibility, looking away during sacrifice and his "terror" that the earth might open and expose him. I wonder what that means for how death was viewed (or, rather, not-viewed) in ancient Greece. Almost like death is a shy thing or a shadow in the dark; it wants not to be looked upon not for mortal terror but its own state.
Enjoyed this very much! Hades is my Patron and yes it is quite difficult to find source material about him. I find he is misunderstood, and has helped me create a much healthier understanding of death and the afterlife. Thank you for mentioning his connection with the Furies! I would love to see a video from you on them! 🙌
Most likely, the guy was busy. The dead in his care deserve to remain dead. After all: war, peace, day and night, the realm of the dead will always increase. In that sense, Hades simply gathers the wealth of the dead unto himself in ever increasing rates. Yet there is much to be said otherwise. I can somehow imagine Hades being the jailer to the titans, including dear-old-dad who ate Hades. "Feeling frisky, old man? Just stay quiet in there." And if Posidon decides to flood the underworld, what would that do but release the titans? More ominously, what is buried with the dead that needs to stay with them? "Say, Pandora, where did you leave that box anyway?" In that sense, Hades could be forgiven for being a touch on the demure side. He's got enough trouble under his roof without looking for it. After all, they are all dying to reach his custody. Eventually every secret passes his threshold. More than likely, it offers a unique perspective.
I’m always impressed with your well done research and delivery. Listening to you cures my academic fatigue! You make it sound simple yet so so informative. Nice work!
It’s so interesting. When someone is born with Pluto (Hades) on the horizon, they tend to be very mysterious, yet very powerful or aggressive. Like, powerful introverts. These people also tend to loathe authority. So very fascinating. Thank you for sharing this information so eloquently.
1) Good to see you back again, sorry to hear you've been under the weather. 2) Love the skit at the beginning, looked like you were having fun doing it too! 3) Ye gads, be still my beating heart ❤ 4) Thank you kindly for another informative and entertaining video.
I live in the mint capital of Michigan. Now I know where mint comes from. Really loved the Greek classics in primary school. Our Lady of the Library always seems to go just a little deeper on subjects. So I always come away with something I did'nt know.
I never heard the versions depicting Hades as a fearful god.. that’s a really interesting take on his character I haven’t seen in an adaptation (apart from maybe Punderworld? He’s the anxious type in that comic, but he’s very confident in his domain so I guess it technically doesn’t count)
Thank you for the Hades episode. I've been looking forward to it and it was like your others, so fascinating. Take good care and feel better. Best wishes.
Thank you for providing us with a well documented and amazing video on a figure that's been portrayed to death in media (pun intended). I was looking for a reliable introduction
Thank you so much for making this series 😭💕📚 I would love to hear your thoughts on: More Greek god mythology & romances Grimms’ fairytale origins Egyptian mythology Origins of astrology Mary Magdalene through the narrative of the Da Vinci code Da Vinci and the symbolism of his work 🌈📚💕
@@CinziaDuBois please don't get me wrong, I like your work but not this specific video isn't very good, there's a lot more stuff about Hades ! The online bibliotheca Theoi is very useful for this theme
There is an interesting book by the psychologist James Hillman: Dreams and the Underworld, which talks a lot about what the invisibility or absence of Hades really means as a contrast to all visible and cosnciouss creation. To Hillman Hades is the backdrop of all we ever can experience, since he is the end of all experience, the shadow which casts light.
I'm not sure we can say that Hades doesn't take an active role in his domain, when in the story of Sisyphus, one of Sisyphus's misdeeds is to take Hades hostage, causing a month-long period where no one died. So Hades being in the underworld is *somehow* essential to the death process. I'm basing this on my introduction to Greek myths, "Greek Gods and Heroes" by Robert Graves, who seems to take particular joy in dunking on Hades whenever possible.
Isn't there some notes of pre mycenaean greece Hades actually being merged with Poseidon, as a Sea+underworld God? I think Overly Sarcastic Productions went into detail about that. How Hades wasn't invisible, he literally didn't exist as a character, his Death Ruler role played by Dread Persephone and his king role played by Poseidon. 🤔
Several people have noted their research on Hades and Peresephone is their worst researched video which if you look into the sources yourself it is. This is coming from OSP fan.
@@natureisneat8262m pretty sure it's one of their better researched videos actually, also, red made it abundantly clear that the whole hades being poseidon thing is just a theory on reds part.
@@natureisneat8262 The thing is, there are artifacts pretty clearly depicting the Wanax-Wanake triad of *Poseidon*, Demeter, and Persephone/Despoina. Even if Hades is not an aspect of Poseidon that gets separated (like with Hermes and Pan), it's quite interesting that Poseidon fills in the Chthonic king role before Hades gets really into the picture and that some of the imagery can be read as the daughter goddess is being given away
10:00 How does the myth of Enlil and Ninlil connect to Ereshkigal, the queen of the underworld, and the myth of Inanna descending to the underworld and being punished by her sister for it (possibly for getting the bull of heaven -her husband- killed by gilgamesh bc he rejected Inanna)? Which sets of myths are older?
You were right, Pluto _is_ a dwarf planet. That's different from a full-fledged planet. And there are several other dwarf planets as well; one of them is Ceres!
I'm actually surprised there isn't much about Hades out there. I wouldn't say Hades was entirely loyal at this point, but compared to Zeus, at least I can keep track of Hades' love life. Persephone didn't have to deal with jealousy nearly as often in comparison. Maybe that's just how invisible Hades is, but since the official myth didn't give him much development, modern culture has done a nice job recreating his personality. I know how science works, but as you might imagine, it's difficult to unlearn Pluto being a planet. This is what I was taught at a very young age, which makes me prone to unnatural emotional attachment to what I learned during those years of my life. I don't know what a dwarf planet is though, because it sounds like a type of planet to me. Then again, I should know better than to make assumptions without doing my research.
@@alberich3963 I liked the video overall, but I recall seeing more about Hades out there online. I'm not sure why the video neglected to mention anything about Hades from Plato. Maybe this explains why I expected more from the video itself. It took awhile to come out so I don't want to nitpick at the quality, because I truly do believe Cinzia did what she could with what she found. I'm not sure how she did her research though.
@@prophecyempresslerena358 or mentions the works of Aeschylus, this guy is from Eleusis, he's probably more familiar with religion and tradition than the other poets( the cult of Demeter in Eleusis is secret, only the people of the region knew the mysteries.)
I don't really understand what you both wanted me to say here. Plato talks about the etymology of Hades' name: I discussed the etymology of his name in the video. Plato discusses the event where Hades pulls the short straw to rule the underworld: I discussed that in the video. Plato explains how no one can leave the underworld: I discuss how no one but heroes can leave the underworld. The rest of what he discusses is the underworld itself -- I'm doing a whole separate video on the underworld. Again, Aeschylus' Frogs focuses on the underworld itself, not Hades as a figure: what information about Hades features in any of Aeschylus' plays that wasn't discussed in this video? He's referenced across multiple plays and poets in Ancient Greek and Roman texts, but no new information about him is given other than repeated "lord of the underworld" sentiments. He as a character and figure isn't well-examined or extrapolated. This video was focused purely on collecting the information we have about Hades as a character and figure in mythology: the underworld is far more detailed than he is across texts. He appears here and there, but he's just a figure people meet, he doesn't have a significant impact on the stories or interact with the fate of the tales he appears in like other gods do (aside from his own myth with Persephone). The 'Hades' Aeschylus largely refers to in his plays is the Underworld itself - the underworld was often called Hades. Aeschylus was very much invested in the mysteries, but as I already discussed, the mysteries were more about Demeter and Persephone to the ancient Greeks, and we see that in Aeschylus' writings. This was a video purely about the god, not the underworld, and I don't quite know what information about Hades you both think I so drastically ignored and didn't cover. @alberrich3963 has gone out of their way to make multiple comments directly or indirectly to me about how bad they believe my video is without telling me exactly what about the god Hades I was missing.
I know, I'm doing a whole video on that. But I think you may be confused in that the word for the underworld IS Hades. I was talking about the god Hades in this video, not Hades the underworld.
Hades is the most loyal most kind god he is the king of the gods but the most misunderstood god being compared to christianities satan. Hades gave second chances he also loved and listened when someone talked he didnt bother anyone while they was alive until they came to his domaine he was the most down to earth greek god by far
The underwold being at the edge of the west kinda reminds me of reaching the Dry Land in EarthSea. Though in EarthSea Ged is shown to get to the land of the dead from both the far West and far East. This sigests to me that the land of the ded was just the far side of the globe.
Calling Hades the most faithful God is true even though not the most accurate description. Think about it, he had 2 mistresses, when you compare to Zeus and Poseidon who had probably 2 thousand each. He might not have been faithful, but he was the least unfaithful.
So the popularity of Hades can be compared to the popularity of Boba Fett. Boba Fett was elevated to his recent status by the cool factor and expanded material, because in fact he is a piss poor bounty hunter in the original trilogy. Same with Hades. James Woods wad cool as Hades, somehow the one wife thing made him into a hopeless romantic, and because there is so little about him, he became free estate for writers.
I can see the Book of Hades now; James Woods strolling around the Asphodel fields to avoid calls from Demeter, making wise cracks to passing shades and wondering why no-one seems to see him
@@markwynne725 Daaaayumm, you picked up my observation and ran with it the other way, and I like it :D . I like these kind of replies. Sorry I can1t send a pint your way, but still... Cheers, mate!
You forgot Hades is also known as Aidoneus, and he had his own temple. The Nekromanteion of Archerontas. Which is still standing and believed to be the entrance to the underworld. It's also mentioned in the Odyssey. Odysseus goes there so he can find out how to get home. There's also the myth on why Hades ended up with the underworld, he literally ended up with the short end of the stick when his brothers and him were deciding who would rule over what.
Well, no I didn’t. Aidoneus was a mythical king of the Molossians in Epirus. He substitutes Hades in an adaptation of the myth which was the work of a late interpreter of ancient myths - his story comes much later than the original myth drawn from the Elusinian mysteries. I also did discuss the story that Hades drew the short straw in this video, so I didn’t forget that. And I’m covering the Nekromanteion in a video all about the underworld.
The more I learn about every other religion the weirder Christianity gets. And not in a Norse Wyrd 'that's enlightening' kinda way, more of a 'how in the eff did they steal from every world religion and then destroy what made them who they are' kinda way.
I pronounce Hermes as something like Air'ms so your first pronunciation of Aidés feels close to right. That's just vibes though, don't ask me to explain the etymology because western academia hates my dismissal of their methodology.
Sorry but two more women beside his wife and taking care of all three instead of raping anyone on sight and leaving them there style of behavior other male gods of his time looks quite tame I am still thinking
No one I could of confused you with, have to look back at the exact hair related comment you made. Good that you do not cut your long gorgeous hair anyway. With your hair up, you just looked good in that style. I usually like to see long hair on a women, few can get away with short hair. You got away with it. Best of both worlds, up in a bun when you want it short then just release it when you don't.
one of the rivers of the Ancient Greek underworld Acheron exist in real world Greece 🤔 in ancient times there is a hades cult which performs necromancy rituals in a temple or tomb I forgot the name of Edit: Nekromanteion Acheron ☠️ I found it off Tripadvisor lol
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Hades is probably the most successful introvert in history
Hades only stepping out twice in terms of his family makes him super loyal.
But the other male gods set such a loooow bar.
Like raping(at the very least attempting) at broad daylight and leaving after the deed is normal for them.
So taking care of the scant three women sounds beyond tame.
Its a Myth that hades is a male God There more Of Hermaphroditic Titanus
Also the fact that they were loving relationships unlike Zeus who seems to go after anything that breathes with or without consent.
Is curious how many modern portraits of Hades present him as a figure somewhat similar to Satan. But he wasn´t a evil god and the greek underworld certainly wasn´t Hell. Great video Lady!
Not really surprising. Christianity took over and equated one dark underground death boy with their own underground death boy. The average person has a very simple/christian view of life and death. Death=bad. And they project this to every other religion. Hades is an asocial king, but he's in charge of the dead so he must be evil! Anubis just prepares bodies, but he's a death god so he must be evil!
actually, Satan took after a lot of hades' features, not the other way around
Which was a result of catholicism demonizing the pagan religions
@@casserole1595 Not really; Satan/Devil in Christian Demonology has more in common with (and influenced by) the Zoroastrian Angra Mainyu (Ahriman). The Associating of the Greek Hades (and the Germanic Hel in turn) with Demons was a later attribution by Medieval Christians.
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I swear to all that is good that Cinzia looks at my writers block and goes “well, more Hades research is gonna be good for her”. It’s like you know I’m looking angrily at my screen and fuming.
Thank you for the video ❤
Isn't it wonderful that seeing another creative's work can unblock us?
Your poignant comparison regarding little Pluto out on the edge of our solar system was adorable!❤ Thank you Cinzia! Love your work!
Hades, patron saint of introverts
Hilarious opening! I like your nod to Hades Town. Very informative and intriguing, as always.
I laughed SO HARD.
Speaks ten lines
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
What a chad! I have been loving this series, it's so interesting how often names of figures and places from Greek mythology turn up all across pop culture, getting more context is such a delight.
Okay, so Hades had 2 other lovers, that he explicitly loved. Admittedly not great, but that still puts him way ahead of Poseidon, Zeus, and Apollo
The fact hades is called the unseen is due to euphemism, the concept is that the ancient greeks didnt want to see him due to his involvement with the underworld. That is evidenced by the fact Hades or in ancient greek ᾍδης is composed by the A privetive and the infinitive ιδειν which is the infinitive of past simple B' of the verb οραω wich mean see. Thus Hades the romanized name for Ἅιδης or Ἅδης should be translated to the Unseen
What a fascinating look at the mysterious underworld ruler, Hades! In a masterful dive into Greek mythology, this video reveals the secrets of this multi-faceted god. I find it utterly enthralling since it clarifies Hades' function as ruler of the dead and his dealings with both other deities and humans. Even the most complex parts of his mythology are easy to understand because of the interesting and comprehensive explanations. Your wonderful work of breathing new life into old tales is much appreciated.
I think an interesting thread is that Hades either does not want to be seen or cannot/should not be looked upon. You mention his helm of invisibility, looking away during sacrifice and his "terror" that the earth might open and expose him. I wonder what that means for how death was viewed (or, rather, not-viewed) in ancient Greece. Almost like death is a shy thing or a shadow in the dark; it wants not to be looked upon not for mortal terror but its own state.
9:31 I could listen to this bit all day // also so much good info about Sumerian cross over stories L❤VE IT
Enjoyed this very much! Hades is my Patron and yes it is quite difficult to find source material about him. I find he is misunderstood, and has helped me create a much healthier understanding of death and the afterlife.
Thank you for mentioning his connection with the Furies! I would love to see a video from you on them! 🙌
Hail King Hades!
Most likely, the guy was busy. The dead in his care deserve to remain dead. After all: war, peace, day and night, the realm of the dead will always increase. In that sense, Hades simply gathers the wealth of the dead unto himself in ever increasing rates.
Yet there is much to be said otherwise. I can somehow imagine Hades being the jailer to the titans, including dear-old-dad who ate Hades. "Feeling frisky, old man? Just stay quiet in there." And if Posidon decides to flood the underworld, what would that do but release the titans?
More ominously, what is buried with the dead that needs to stay with them? "Say, Pandora, where did you leave that box anyway?" In that sense, Hades could be forgiven for being a touch on the demure side. He's got enough trouble under his roof without looking for it. After all, they are all dying to reach his custody. Eventually every secret passes his threshold. More than likely, it offers a unique perspective.
let's get deep into the mysteries! love it.
Sure, not like I don't already have enough Dionysus in my life
I’m always impressed with your well done research and delivery. Listening to you cures my academic fatigue! You make it sound simple yet so so informative. Nice work!
It’s so interesting. When someone is born with Pluto (Hades) on the horizon, they tend to be very mysterious, yet very powerful or aggressive. Like, powerful introverts. These people also tend to loathe authority.
So very fascinating.
Thank you for sharing this information so eloquently.
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i also love how each of the planets are so fitting with their respective names and the mythologies around them
Lady of the Underworld. Thank You!
Just what I needed today. You’re a riot!🖤
Thanks!
1) Good to see you back again, sorry to hear you've been under the weather.
2) Love the skit at the beginning, looked like you were having fun doing it too!
3) Ye gads, be still my beating heart ❤
4) Thank you kindly for another informative and entertaining video.
Best video opening ever!!
I live in the mint capital of Michigan. Now I know where mint comes from. Really loved the Greek classics in primary school. Our Lady of the Library always seems to go just a little deeper on subjects. So I always come away with something I did'nt know.
You have been missed. Glad your recovering. Thank you for making mythology fascination.
I never heard the versions depicting Hades as a fearful god.. that’s a really interesting take on his character I haven’t seen in an adaptation (apart from maybe Punderworld? He’s the anxious type in that comic, but he’s very confident in his domain so I guess it technically doesn’t count)
As always, an enjoyable experience listening to you. Thank you
You have no idea how much you and these videos give me! 3x cheers!
The fact that Hades seems like what today we would call "middle child" is even funnier when we realize he was actually the oldest of the three 😂
Thanks for this neat Hades video!
I wonder if Ploutos, son of Demeter & Iasion got mixed up with Pluto somehow.
Hope all is well-thank you
It's about damn time!
I'm just kidding I am patient for your amazing quality content. Iluvu 🥰
Thank you for the Hades episode. I've been looking forward to it and it was like your others, so fascinating. Take good care and feel better. Best wishes.
Thank you for the lovely and enjoyable summary! Looking forward to the next one. I hope you're feeling better!
Excellent opening! Great video ❤ from 🇨🇦
I think Hades' loyal husband status is in comparison to his brothers. Compared to Zeus and Poseidon he was very loyal. 😂
I swear that cold open spun me out lol 😂🤣
I loved this! And I want your blouse 😍
Thank you for this well researched and excellent video essay.
Very interesting as always!
Thank you for providing us with a well documented and amazing video on a figure that's been portrayed to death in media (pun intended). I was looking for a reliable introduction
I always thought that Pluto was the latin form of his name, didn´t know that it also came from the greeks.
Thank you so much for making this series 😭💕📚
I would love to hear your thoughts on:
More Greek god mythology & romances
Grimms’ fairytale origins
Egyptian mythology
Origins of astrology
Mary Magdalene through the narrative of the Da Vinci code
Da Vinci and the symbolism of his work
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Love it, well done Cinzia 👏👏
Thank you!! 😊
@@CinziaDuBois please don't get me wrong, I like your work but not this specific video isn't very good, there's a lot more stuff about Hades ! The online bibliotheca Theoi is very useful for this theme
Thanks
saw my boyfriends name in the scrolly credits and i am so f*cking proud of him for not naming himself "boogerbutt* or something like that
There is an interesting book by the psychologist James Hillman: Dreams and the Underworld, which talks a lot about what the invisibility or absence of Hades really means as a contrast to all visible and cosnciouss creation. To Hillman Hades is the backdrop of all we ever can experience, since he is the end of all experience, the shadow which casts light.
Sorry you’ve been I’ll. Please take care. I really enjoy your channel 😍
I would love you to do more Sumerian myths. Inanna is
Very entertaining, thank you for creating!
Love your videos, they are so interesting and informative. 😊
I'm not sure we can say that Hades doesn't take an active role in his domain, when in the story of Sisyphus, one of Sisyphus's misdeeds is to take Hades hostage, causing a month-long period where no one died. So Hades being in the underworld is *somehow* essential to the death process.
I'm basing this on my introduction to Greek myths, "Greek Gods and Heroes" by Robert Graves, who seems to take particular joy in dunking on Hades whenever possible.
The hostage was 'Thanatos' (not 'Hades')... other than that, you're correct
Hades sounds like an introvert
What are your thoughts on Kassandra /Cassandra the prophetess who was cursed ?
Ngl the beginning of this video scared me so much lmao
The New Testament of the Wholly Fables aka the Bible often times interchanges the Greek underworld of Hades with the Jewish underworld of Sheol.
As well as the Norse -entirely different plane of existence- Hel
Isn't there some notes of pre mycenaean greece Hades actually being merged with Poseidon, as a Sea+underworld God? I think Overly Sarcastic Productions went into detail about that. How Hades wasn't invisible, he literally didn't exist as a character, his Death Ruler role played by Dread Persephone and his king role played by Poseidon. 🤔
Several people have noted their research on Hades and Peresephone is their worst researched video which if you look into the sources yourself it is. This is coming from OSP fan.
@@natureisneat8262m pretty sure it's one of their better researched videos actually, also, red made it abundantly clear that the whole hades being poseidon thing is just a theory on reds part.
@@natureisneat8262 The thing is, there are artifacts pretty clearly depicting the Wanax-Wanake triad of *Poseidon*, Demeter, and Persephone/Despoina. Even if Hades is not an aspect of Poseidon that gets separated (like with Hermes and Pan), it's quite interesting that Poseidon fills in the Chthonic king role before Hades gets really into the picture and that some of the imagery can be read as the daughter goddess is being given away
The Clash of the Titans movies introduced me to the mythology.
I missed you I was missing your vids
10:00 How does the myth of Enlil and Ninlil connect to Ereshkigal, the queen of the underworld, and the myth of Inanna descending to the underworld and being punished by her sister for it (possibly for getting the bull of heaven -her husband- killed by gilgamesh bc he rejected Inanna)? Which sets of myths are older?
Hades had another weapon besides the helmet of invisibility, a bident (a two-pronged trident).
So any wrong turn on the highway on mytological Greece could take you to the Underworld😅
Well done 👍👍
I picked this video from the search results because it looked like the one with citations and the doobly doo came thru 🎉
I like Hades
You were right, Pluto _is_ a dwarf planet. That's different from a full-fledged planet. And there are several other dwarf planets as well; one of them is Ceres!
I'm actually surprised there isn't much about Hades out there. I wouldn't say Hades was entirely loyal at this point, but compared to Zeus, at least I can keep track of Hades' love life. Persephone didn't have to deal with jealousy nearly as often in comparison. Maybe that's just how invisible Hades is, but since the official myth didn't give him much development, modern culture has done a nice job recreating his personality.
I know how science works, but as you might imagine, it's difficult to unlearn Pluto being a planet. This is what I was taught at a very young age, which makes me prone to unnatural emotional attachment to what I learned during those years of my life. I don't know what a dwarf planet is though, because it sounds like a type of planet to me. Then again, I should know better than to make assumptions without doing my research.
I don't want to be critical, but this video is not very good! Plato wrote a lot about Hades
@@alberich3963 I liked the video overall, but I recall seeing more about Hades out there online. I'm not sure why the video neglected to mention anything about Hades from Plato. Maybe this explains why I expected more from the video itself.
It took awhile to come out so I don't want to nitpick at the quality, because I truly do believe Cinzia did what she could with what she found. I'm not sure how she did her research though.
@@prophecyempresslerena358 or mentions the works of Aeschylus, this guy is from Eleusis, he's probably more familiar with religion and tradition than the other poets( the cult of Demeter in Eleusis is secret, only the people of the region knew the mysteries.)
I don't really understand what you both wanted me to say here. Plato talks about the etymology of Hades' name: I discussed the etymology of his name in the video. Plato discusses the event where Hades pulls the short straw to rule the underworld: I discussed that in the video. Plato explains how no one can leave the underworld: I discuss how no one but heroes can leave the underworld. The rest of what he discusses is the underworld itself -- I'm doing a whole separate video on the underworld. Again, Aeschylus' Frogs focuses on the underworld itself, not Hades as a figure: what information about Hades features in any of Aeschylus' plays that wasn't discussed in this video? He's referenced across multiple plays and poets in Ancient Greek and Roman texts, but no new information about him is given other than repeated "lord of the underworld" sentiments. He as a character and figure isn't well-examined or extrapolated. This video was focused purely on collecting the information we have about Hades as a character and figure in mythology: the underworld is far more detailed than he is across texts. He appears here and there, but he's just a figure people meet, he doesn't have a significant impact on the stories or interact with the fate of the tales he appears in like other gods do (aside from his own myth with Persephone). The 'Hades' Aeschylus largely refers to in his plays is the Underworld itself - the underworld was often called Hades. Aeschylus was very much invested in the mysteries, but as I already discussed, the mysteries were more about Demeter and Persephone to the ancient Greeks, and we see that in Aeschylus' writings. This was a video purely about the god, not the underworld, and I don't quite know what information about Hades you both think I so drastically ignored and didn't cover. @alberrich3963 has gone out of their way to make multiple comments directly or indirectly to me about how bad they believe my video is without telling me exactly what about the god Hades I was missing.
I know, I'm doing a whole video on that. But I think you may be confused in that the word for the underworld IS Hades. I was talking about the god Hades in this video, not Hades the underworld.
Hades is a homebody with severe anxiety and trauma with his family
Could you talk a little about Hades' bident too?
Hades is the most loyal most kind god he is the king of the gods but the most misunderstood god being compared to christianities satan. Hades gave second chances he also loved and listened when someone talked he didnt bother anyone while they was alive until they came to his domaine he was the most down to earth greek god by far
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You remind me of an adorably sassy Victorian socialite.❤️
The underwold being at the edge of the west kinda reminds me of reaching the Dry Land in EarthSea. Though in EarthSea Ged is shown to get to the land of the dead from both the far West and far East. This sigests to me that the land of the ded was just the far side of the globe.
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Calling Hades the most faithful God is true even though not the most accurate description. Think about it, he had 2 mistresses, when you compare to Zeus and Poseidon who had probably 2 thousand each. He might not have been faithful, but he was the least unfaithful.
Have you read Peter S. Beatles Summerland? Involves all 3.
Seeing your face again makes me smile like a buffoon. Be well! We worry x
Good stuff, Kiddo.
I hope that Family Guy in the future parodies Disney's Hercules as an episode
Hello Hades, we’ve been waiting…
Would love to see you do an analysis of the webtoon comic, Lore Olympus.
So the popularity of Hades can be compared to the popularity of Boba Fett. Boba Fett was elevated to his recent status by the cool factor and expanded material, because in fact he is a piss poor bounty hunter in the original trilogy. Same with Hades. James Woods wad cool as Hades, somehow the one wife thing made him into a hopeless romantic, and because there is so little about him, he became free estate for writers.
I can see the Book of Hades now; James Woods strolling around the Asphodel fields to avoid calls from Demeter, making wise cracks to passing shades and wondering why no-one seems to see him
@@markwynne725 Daaaayumm, you picked up my observation and ran with it the other way, and I like it :D . I like these kind of replies. Sorry I can1t send a pint your way, but still... Cheers, mate!
You forgot Hades is also known as Aidoneus, and he had his own temple. The Nekromanteion of Archerontas. Which is still standing and believed to be the entrance to the underworld. It's also mentioned in the Odyssey. Odysseus goes there so he can find out how to get home. There's also the myth on why Hades ended up with the underworld, he literally ended up with the short end of the stick when his brothers and him were deciding who would rule over what.
Well, no I didn’t. Aidoneus was a mythical king of the Molossians in Epirus. He substitutes Hades in an adaptation of the myth which was the work of a late interpreter of ancient myths - his story comes much later than the original myth drawn from the Elusinian mysteries. I also did discuss the story that Hades drew the short straw in this video, so I didn’t forget that. And I’m covering the Nekromanteion in a video all about the underworld.
@@CinziaDuBois I look forward for your next video on this topic! ❤
Insert Hadestown reference here.
Do you think the Hellenic or the Hellenistic eras had a bigger impact on modern Western culture?
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The modern Greek pronunciation is rather close to the English pronunciation anyway.
The more I learn about every other religion the weirder Christianity gets.
And not in a Norse Wyrd 'that's enlightening' kinda way, more of a 'how in the eff did they steal from every world religion and then destroy what made them who they are' kinda way.
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this comment was purely made to boost engagement...
Now do the orthodox Christian version of hades.
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I pronounce Hermes as something like Air'ms so your first pronunciation of Aidés feels close to right.
That's just vibes though, don't ask me to explain the etymology because western academia hates my dismissal of their methodology.
Sorry but two more women beside his wife and taking care of all three instead of raping anyone on sight and leaving them there style of behavior other male gods of his time looks quite tame I am still thinking
You cut your hair. I thought that was a bad idea when you mentioned you might do it, but looks good.
I haven’t - it’s just in a bun. But I've never mentioned ever cutting my hair so I think you may have confused me with someone else
No one I could of confused you with, have to look back at the exact hair related comment you made. Good that you do not cut your long gorgeous hair anyway. With your hair up, you just looked good in that style. I usually like to see long hair on a women, few can get away with short hair. You got away with it. Best of both worlds, up in a bun when you want it short then just release it when you don't.
one of the rivers of the Ancient Greek underworld Acheron exist in real world Greece 🤔 in ancient times there is a hades cult which performs necromancy rituals in a temple or tomb I forgot the name of
Edit: Nekromanteion Acheron ☠️ I found it off Tripadvisor lol
yes I cover that in another video
@@CinziaDuBois cool I’ll go watch it 😄 I’m currently binge watching ur vids
I don't think pronouncing names correctly is pretentious at all.