As a first generation American of German descent I have studied Germany’s history, especially the Nazi era, for many years. You’ve done an amazing job of summarizing some of the most obscure and difficult theories underpinning the insanity that was Nazism. So, well done, you!!
Insanity is right! The Nazis were the worse kind of mentally ill larpers ever to exist, murderous and deranged. As an ethnic German, that 13 years of history is obviously the worst in all of the multiple thousands of years of Germanic/German history. The Nazis were extremely hostile to the true, and far more enlightened, culture of classical Germany, as it were. I loath the right-wing "fan boys" whose childish version of German history and culture basically equates to the exact kind of militaristic caricature of Germany that to me is far removed from the essential virtues of higher German culture, which is more truly progressive and enlightened in my opinion.
I'm a 3rd generation American of German descent agree about these ideas may be obscure from our modern perspective to varying degrees, but that does not necessarily invalidate any of the Tibetan knowledge the Nazis had acquired.
The conspiracy to al right pipeline is something that I hyperfocused on when I worked at a metaphysical bookstore. There were multiple author sections that centered around conspiracy theories and it made me super uncomfortable. Turns out that was just scratching the surface because the owners fired me because of their own covid conspiracy, but that's neither here nor there.
This particular topic is also one of my favorite esoteric topics from history. I've done a lot of reading on the history of the Thule Society and how they influenced the Not So Nice Party and the Bad Mustache Man and it's fascinating. I've personally witnessed the pagan to alt right pipeline and I love that you're making this content
That is strange as evangelical Christianity is strongly associated with the alt right. But its the same kind of thinking, seeing some kind of agency when there isn't one.
What conspiracies are you referring to? It seems to me that conspiracy theories are quickly becoming spoiler alerts. And covid was DEFINITELY a conspiracy. The Energy Department has just made an official statement that covid came out of the Wuhan lab. A cursory glance at who was invited in the gain of function research at said lab and who gained from it leaves little doubt. UFOS were a conspiracy theory for 80 years until it became a fact that they were being hidden by the government. Project Monarch. Project Paperclip. The Philadelphia experiment. The CIA admitted openly that they have agents working in every level of the media. Recently released files prove the CIA orchestrated JFKs assassination. Shall I go on?
I don't have a dog in this fight but, you worked at a "metaphysical" book store but you have a problem with other people's conspiracies? 🤣 Oh the irony
Tbf, most of the time, in the modern era, when people talk about Atlantis, they are speculating what the original Plato allegory of it could have been alluding to. I've never really heard people ever really give credence to the Ignatius Donnelly stuff.
@@RumRayven Really? There are seemingly no end of videos pushing the idea that there was a real Atlantis. They almost always have much higher viewership than _actual_ archaeology channels. The whole LAHT (Lost Ancient High Technology) thing is an industry unto itself.
There is a saying - once you embrace one harmless conspiracy theory, it is not hard to open the doorway for others far less harmless and more dangerous.
I find it amusing that a regime that only lasted 12 years and no longer exists still still causes a reaction of fear. The NAZIs were only the 3rd most dangerous power in Europe during the 20th century. The Soviet Union and Communist China were far more destructive and deadly than the NAZIs. These two other powers were just as crazy in their ideology as well.
As a German in my mid-50s I recognized so many things, I still learned at school in the 70s. I even remember the book of "races" with all those pictures and how we rebelled against it in the early 80s at "gymansium" biology class. Hearing it all together was difficult to follow. Esp. since there are so many parallels to modern politics. Nothing of it has died out. It at best just lay dormant for a while. Rearing its ugly head for some years now. Thank you for your work.
Hey, I hope this is not s dumb question, but do you know if the people who created this brand of bike trailers called Thule have anything to do with this crap? I've wondered a lot of times. Sincerely, a foreign mother in Germany.
I studied NaZI occultism in highschool. The whole Atlantean (and lesser popculturally known hyperborean) thing is "interesting" as it is horrible. Great job on covering Thule and Hyperborea. Most people never go that deep.
@@tragictraveller it was a military history class that covered modern military history. My semi-self-directed term project was on NaZI occultism and it's influence on the dispersal of war resources during WWII. I thought I'd just learn about NaZIs looking for the holy grail and stuff... But then the Hyperboreans and aliens and Atlantis... The rabbit hole was deep and unfortunately was the most useful information I learned in High School. Really wish "being able to spot and identify NaZI occult symbols and propaganda" was a skill that was completely useless in my adult life.... But here we are. 😮💨
@@williampotter3369 Why? It’s a factual historical thing a military force did. Sounds exactly like the type of thing a class on military history would cover. Especially since it did have a discernible effect on Nazi military tactics. Or did you read occultism and clutch your occult sym… I mean holy cross going “No one should ever learn about the occult in any form.” Forgetting the fact knowing about something is the best way to fight against something.
@@brandonfrancis1941 There's a site that compilled examples of Nazi pseudoscience in action and it's frankly hilarious. The Kriegsmarine seriously believed they could use pendulums to locate Allied shipping, which IIRC became part of Allied disinformation to cover up the cracking of the enigma code. Nazi radar operators and scientists also complained about being forced to waste time tryinfg to figure out if the Earth was inside a shell.
The disconcerting thing is, that those theories, sometimes word by word, prevail under the guise of esoteric and neo-pagan ideas (I call myself a neo-pagan and I'm not accusing, but merely wanting to inspire to challenge those ideas), especially ones about atlantean, hyperborean or alien ancestry (starseeds and such), which always have at least one leg in the comparison of skull lengths or eye shapes and spacing and those things.
"....and how people with such insane ideas got into any sort of power, I have no idea!" Well, someone hasn't been paying attention to the world around them.
I also find it hard to keep my composure while researching this stuff, and consequently attempting to educate others. But it's so important. Thank you. 🖤
Commenting for the first time on one of your videos. Thank you for slogging through all that ugliness! there are so many aspects of these childhood "legends" we were taught, that are just horrifying in how they were born. Time to wash our hands of any romanticism we might have injected into them! It's hard to "like" videos about these subjects, because they are so filled with hateful cruelty and racism. But I do press the "thumbs up" because you help us pull our childhood fingers off our eyes and help us see the truth. Thank you!
As a neo pagan, it is really upsetting to learn how much of comparative mythology is based off of the WSicist ideas. I feel like this era of interpretation is going to be a lense of understanding that will have to work around, like Christian records of outside myth.
Ah! I've been meaning to make a similar video here and on tiktok! It's crucial for us in the history/archaeology/classics fields to push back against the new growths of these conspiracy theories! Thank you so much for doing this! I'm definitely going to read some of these sources before I do any filming!
I kept getting “historical mystery” videos. That all basically just spread elements of these conspiracies as if they were 100% true. I stressed myself out trying to research it. Thank you so much for doing this
Your voice continues to be a delight, your scholarship is impressive, and your pronunciation grow more reliable. I'm impressed with your willingness to take on such a topic, over which you might face an onslaught of abusive comments. Courage. Continue to speak truth to power.
It’s always a precarious moment when a RUclipsr dives into a topic you’re unusually informed about. Out of India Theory is a pet subject of mine And I’m quite happy with your coverage here. It gives me an even greater love for this channel now feeling secure that your information is reliable.
@@Fullmetalnyuu0 I would argue that Cinzia's use of only 3 sources, two out of which are dubious religious and right-wing nationalist publications that mainly cite the Rig Veda and are riddled with conjecture and whataboutism is not "in-depth research".
@@aravdogra4192 What are you talking about? Literally all discussions about Atlantis are conjecture and whataboutism because Atlantis doesn't exist. Considering this video is about the Nazis' connection with the concept, of course it would draw from right wing sources.
I tought this video will go viral, because of the topic, but then I realized even I didn't watch it because it's such a hard topic. So I finally listened to it, and I'm even more certain this should go viral. It breaks my mind, how these literal conspiracy theories made so much damage in our world. In the age of the internet I'm even more afraid, because misinformation can spread so easily. So today instead of sleep I'll look at the ceiling.
I know it's easy for me as the viewer, presented with curated information, to not be as disturbed as you were while researching this. For that reason I thank you and commend you for your courage and dedication! I'm grateful for this video, and really impressed by your mental fortitude to pull through with this. You're amazing
One of the ideas that they had stemmed from the fact that very ancient symbols being found all over the world (touched on in the video by the swastika, but also including circles with crosses in them, spirals, various star shapes, etc.) pointed to them having been disseminated by an advanced civilization since those disparate peoples couldn't have invented them independently. But if you think about it logically there are only so many ways you can scratch lines into stone. Also if they were handed down by a 'superior race' then all the symbols would have the same meaning to all the different cultures that used them, which they don't. These basic ideas are the same being proposed by people such as Graham Hancock to prove the existence of an older, superior race. Also, on a different note, I have studied WW2 for over forty years because both of my grandfathers fought in the entire war. Even as an elementary school child it struck me as funny how all the proponents of the master aryan race, tall blond blue eyed people, were all short brunettes.
Also a lot of them are only similar if you selectively ignore aspects of them. The swastika as seen in Europe and India have different orientations and usually in India the lines are curvey.
Wow. Your Atlantis series is my first dive into your channel and I'm SO glad the RUclips algorithm brought me here. You are so thorough and you make sure poignant, valid insights. So happy to be a new subscriber! :) Thank you!
I love how thorough you are! You make it super obvious how one idiotic mythos feeds into the next until the absurdity of it all is laid bare. I had never even heard of Thule or the World Ice Theory!
@@towboattrash Correct, you should never rely on a single source but instead get a broad understanding of the literature, something the creator of this video directly encourages her viewers to do. I assume that's what you mean and this isn't a lazy attempt to discredit a video you don't like.
The origin of this famous opening line "It was the dark and stormy night" has led me down to the rabbit hole of theosophy and this mythology around the master race living underground.
I have a deep connection with all of this in a horrible way, and I can’t go into any nazi stuff without also “losing my composure” (for me a delicate way of saying being unable to talk while tears just fall constantly). I honestly appreciate your vulnerability in disclosing this and still doing the research
@malikchan17 There are present day believers of most or all of these ideas, so regardless of how young Sonorasgirl is they might have been affected by it. I didn't see any indication of their age anyway.
@@williampotter3369 that it is. Most conspiracy theories have no truths to them. Very few are true and the few that have been proven are no near as fantastical as any of this. Sure some if proven conspiracies are scary and nerve racking but literally none of them have magic or lost cities.
Came across your video after reading a ufo book that praised certain Nazi occultists for their ufo research and was just baffled. I knew about the Nazi connection but the blatant openness caught me so off guard. Thank you for the hard work
Thank you Cinzia, I can only imagine the slog of research you did to pull all of these conspiracies, obscure, and not so obscure bits of history together. This subject always reminds me of that quote that those how do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I feel like much of the world falls into these patterns of alt history, psuedoscience, isolationist thinking and so on by not having a sufficient understanding of history. I hope your content and others works helps some of us feel more sane and possibly avoid falling for such theories in the future.
This was a great video. I absolutely love this series. For anyone interested in the academic study of the esoteric and occult in the late 19th and 20th centuries, I highly recommend Angela's Symposium here on RUclips. Dr. Puca is very knowledgeable and brings on some amazing guests!
Another fascinating gem from you, Cinzia. When I saw the topic I was very interested, as this is an intense, multi faceted and complex crossroads topic. You really challenge yourself and I love it.
So certain parts of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail" were not far off. The Nazis really were searching the world for this sort of mythic stuff to use as super weapons!
I came upon this video looking for exactly this information: how did we get from Atlantis to Wyt Supremaci? I watched parts 1 and 2 first but waited to watch this because I knew - I KNEW - it would take some emotional fortitude. So I 100% understand why you needed a break. Thank you, most sincerely, for this essay and the work you did putting this all together. It connects up a bunch of stuff I've researched or seen in ways I didn't know. I appreciate this video so much!
Thank you for going through all this to provide us with this video. It's fascinating to hear about. My dad knows a lot about WWII so I got a lot of history from him but I knew very little about the who woo side of it. I can only imagine how exasperating this was to research.
While I was kidnapped by aliens and subjected to terrible medical experients they told me that Atlantis existed and that they had caused it's destruction. How can you argue with aliens?
I am a latecomer to your channel, but luckily, it appears that I have stumbled upon a veritable treasure trove of fascinating and densely layered videos featuring some of the best narration I've heard. Thanks!
Yes the far-right has a way with incorporating different symbols and subjects and claiming it was always Nazi. Atlantis was always meant to be allegory. Never a factual place.
First things first a lot of information covered and have enjoyed watching the 3 videos (so far). Secondly You did an amazing job keeping your composure a difficult topic to discuss.
I'm jealous of her desk lamp. They were popular in banks, so they are easy to find, but they are rising in value, at antique stores. I guess that they aren't widely produced anymore.
Just to add a tiny fact to Chinza's presentation. Vril is lifeforce under Theosophy. John Lawson Johnston, who was involved with Madame Blavatsky and the Theosophy scene. He created Bovril, the Beef exctract drink. Popular in the UK. Bovril is Bo(bovine)vril (lifeforce), the lifeforce of a cow. The word Vril itself is from an 1871 book, Vril: The Power of the Coming Race. This book greatly influenced Blavatsky and her circle.
I would love to see your bibliography and know the books on your desk. I'm the kind of person who is always looking at bookshelves of other peoples homes, looking for new resources.
And theosophy is behind so much, including the UN (which even has a theosophy meditation room), the World Economic Forum, and the World Health Organization. That occult religion underpins practically every major organization and government in the west. I didn't know about any of this until recently and my head is spinning. MK Ultra, transhumanism, post-humanism - so much insanity is related directly to theosophy.
Thanks so much! I am a bit of a prehistory buff, and wasn't able to make the connection between indo Europeans, indo aryans, and nazis. This clears it up for me: they made stuff up to suit their wicked ideals. Thanks again! I subscribed 😊💜
"...perched on a foundation as strong and as logical as a bath made of cotton candy." This is my new favorite way to describe pseudo-academic nonsense. 🤣
Thanks for putting all of that nazi fever dream together for us. If it helps to put you in a better mood, you could read a phone book and id be enthralled.
Damn this was bat shit crazy. If this would have been the first time on your channel I probably wouldn't believe you. Oh my God!! This must have taken so much time and nerves. Thank you for your sacrifice!
O yes, the Stiftung Ahnenerbe. I once found a booklet in an antiquary shop, that was issued by that society, and bought it. Not because I thought that anything written in there had scientific value (except, maybe, if there is actually a discipline like historic political psychology), but I didn't want to see it fall into the hands of someone who would believe in that nonsense. I had a read, and found that it was not only tainted, it was pure mental poison.
Wow, I appreciate all of the research that you put into this series, but boy was it dense, I am likely going to have to watch the whole thing again just to fully absorb it.
Amazing vid! I gather James Webb's The Occult Underground is a little outdated on some points but it goes into a lot of the nitty-gritty in the first few decades of the 20th century if one wants to know more about the links between Blavatsky and the Nazis.
I think one of the worst things Helena Blavatsky ever did was use the term race for her groups of people. Any analysis of the text really seems like she was trying to say a word like ages or time periods that her "races" happened to coincide with. It actually reads like a weird book on the evolution(both physical and spiritual) of human beings from like these spirit entities to what we are now. I mean if you read it the way I and a lot of people believe she intended it to, the idea of "Aryan" is not a racial group but instead applies to the entire human species of that time period. Aka our time period. So if reading her words more accurately, we are all Aryans. Whether you are of one ethnicity or another. Everyone om earth alive in this time period is an aryan and we will be replaced by another group of humans who will "evolve" from us into whatever they're gonna be. Now I don't believe all of this in the slightest, I've just done research. I'm just saying this to show that Helena Blavatsky wasn't like some proto nazi in disguise. The nazis just took her word "race" in her works and ran that whole idea as far as it could go. TLDR the nazis would literally take any pseudo-science bull shit they read and twisted it to fit their narrative of ethnic superiority. Even when the text itself said nothing of the sort
It's always wild finding out the link between 2 seemingly unrelated things. My favorite part in the history of eugenics is when the Nordic people's migrated to India to pick up a justification for modern white people liking meditation. That was really considerate of the ancient nords
Aryan peoples lived in the plateau of Iran, and in addition to Avesta, in the Naqsh Rostam inscription in Persepolis, Iran, Darius the Great introduces himself as the son of a Persian and from the Aryan tribe. This is the only historical document in the world where a person directly calls himself an Aryan.
Can also recommend "Hitler's Monsters". Many thanks to Cinzia for shinng a light on this tangled and batpoop crazy web of mythology, racism, and craziness.
I was so glad you showed where the uh... "German Government of 1930s" got their creation myth from. So hoping you continue that trend and well specifically how modern "spirit science" spirituality specifically came out of the "aryanist" antisemitic reading of Blavotsky/
This is a great summarization of an incredibly bizarre topic. I would suggest keeping this in mind when reviewing James Lindsey's / New Discourses's work.
I love your voice. I love your attitude, especially in this video🤣 I have ADHD, and are absolutely amazed how you could research this topic. I would have just gotten even more angry at the nazis and just left it😅
Meanwhile on the other side of the Atlantic the aristocratic oligarch class in America was obsessed with communism hermetic Gnosticism and Rousseau’s noble savage theory which is still preserved today by people like Klaus Schwab and the modern collegiate academic system
It was only scatty and incredibly hard to follow because the Nazi beliefs are scatty and incredibly hard to follow. You did your best to insert logical order in a place bereft of it.
As a first generation American of German descent I have studied Germany’s history, especially the Nazi era, for many years. You’ve done an amazing job of summarizing some of the most obscure and difficult theories underpinning the insanity that was Nazism. So, well done, you!!
Awww thank you so much!!
You’re probably hot
Insanity is right! The Nazis were the worse kind of mentally ill larpers ever to exist, murderous and deranged. As an ethnic German, that 13 years of history is obviously the worst in all of the multiple thousands of years of Germanic/German history. The Nazis were extremely hostile to the true, and far more enlightened, culture of classical Germany, as it were. I loath the right-wing "fan boys" whose childish version of German history and culture basically equates to the exact kind of militaristic caricature of Germany that to me is far removed from the essential virtues of higher German culture, which is more truly progressive and enlightened in my opinion.
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I'm a 3rd generation American of German descent agree about these ideas may be obscure from our modern perspective to varying degrees, but that does not necessarily invalidate any of the Tibetan knowledge the Nazis had acquired.
The conspiracy to al right pipeline is something that I hyperfocused on when I worked at a metaphysical bookstore. There were multiple author sections that centered around conspiracy theories and it made me super uncomfortable. Turns out that was just scratching the surface because the owners fired me because of their own covid conspiracy, but that's neither here nor there.
This particular topic is also one of my favorite esoteric topics from history. I've done a lot of reading on the history of the Thule Society and how they influenced the Not So Nice Party and the Bad Mustache Man and it's fascinating. I've personally witnessed the pagan to alt right pipeline and I love that you're making this content
That is strange as evangelical Christianity is strongly associated with the alt right. But its the same kind of thinking, seeing some kind of agency when there isn't one.
The COVID stuff is turning out to be true though. But I still give no credence to Nazi Occultism.
What conspiracies are you referring to? It seems to me that conspiracy theories are quickly becoming spoiler alerts. And covid was DEFINITELY a conspiracy. The Energy Department has just made an official statement that covid came out of the Wuhan lab. A cursory glance at who was invited in the gain of function research at said lab and who gained from it leaves little doubt. UFOS were a conspiracy theory for 80 years until it became a fact that they were being hidden by the government. Project Monarch. Project Paperclip. The Philadelphia experiment. The CIA admitted openly that they have agents working in every level of the media. Recently released files prove the CIA orchestrated JFKs assassination. Shall I go on?
I don't have a dog in this fight but, you worked at a "metaphysical" book store but you have a problem with other people's conspiracies? 🤣 Oh the irony
So excited to watch this! Im constantly trying to explain the dangerous roots of these so called "harmless" conspiracy theories
I agreed whole heartedly. This is the core of "fake news", which is accually promoted by those behind fake news.
Tbf, most of the time, in the modern era, when people talk about Atlantis, they are speculating what the original Plato allegory of it could have been alluding to. I've never really heard people ever really give credence to the Ignatius Donnelly stuff.
@@RumRayven Really? There are seemingly no end of videos pushing the idea that there was a real Atlantis. They almost always have much higher viewership than _actual_ archaeology channels. The whole LAHT (Lost Ancient High Technology) thing is an industry unto itself.
There is a saying - once you embrace one harmless conspiracy theory, it is not hard to open the doorway for others far less harmless and more dangerous.
I find it amusing that a regime that only lasted 12 years and no longer exists still still causes a reaction of fear. The NAZIs were only the 3rd most dangerous power in Europe during the 20th century. The Soviet Union and Communist China were far more destructive and deadly than the NAZIs. These two other powers were just as crazy in their ideology as well.
As a German in my mid-50s I recognized so many things, I still learned at school in the 70s. I even remember the book of "races" with all those pictures and how we rebelled against it in the early 80s at "gymansium" biology class. Hearing it all together was difficult to follow. Esp. since there are so many parallels to modern politics. Nothing of it has died out. It at best just lay dormant for a while. Rearing its ugly head for some years now. Thank you for your work.
Hey, I hope this is not s dumb question, but do you know if the people who created this brand of bike trailers called Thule have anything to do with this crap? I've wondered a lot of times. Sincerely, a foreign mother in Germany.
@@williampotter3369 have you watched the video? My comment was a direct comment to several points made in the video.
It's sad how many still fall down the path of alternative science and alt history.
I studied NaZI occultism in highschool.
The whole Atlantean (and lesser popculturally known hyperborean) thing is "interesting" as it is horrible.
Great job on covering Thule and Hyperborea. Most people never go that deep.
what sort of high school facilitates learning about Nazi occultism?? very cool, I absolutely would have taken that class lmao
I preferred cutting class and going dancing instead of studying lol. Studying China, and Russia was as daring as we got.
@@tragictraveller it was a military history class that covered modern military history. My semi-self-directed term project was on NaZI occultism and it's influence on the dispersal of war resources during WWII.
I thought I'd just learn about NaZIs looking for the holy grail and stuff... But then the Hyperboreans and aliens and Atlantis... The rabbit hole was deep and unfortunately was the most useful information I learned in High School.
Really wish "being able to spot and identify NaZI occult symbols and propaganda" was a skill that was completely useless in my adult life....
But here we are. 😮💨
@@williampotter3369 Why? It’s a factual historical thing a military force did. Sounds exactly like the type of thing a class on military history would cover. Especially since it did have a discernible effect on Nazi military tactics. Or did you read occultism and clutch your occult sym… I mean holy cross going “No one should ever learn about the occult in any form.” Forgetting the fact knowing about something is the best way to fight against something.
@@brandonfrancis1941 There's a site that compilled examples of Nazi pseudoscience in action and it's frankly hilarious. The Kriegsmarine seriously believed they could use pendulums to locate Allied shipping, which IIRC became part of Allied disinformation to cover up the cracking of the enigma code. Nazi radar operators and scientists also complained about being forced to waste time tryinfg to figure out if the Earth was inside a shell.
The disconcerting thing is, that those theories, sometimes word by word, prevail under the guise of esoteric and neo-pagan ideas (I call myself a neo-pagan and I'm not accusing, but merely wanting to inspire to challenge those ideas), especially ones about atlantean, hyperborean or alien ancestry (starseeds and such), which always have at least one leg in the comparison of skull lengths or eye shapes and spacing and those things.
Thank you. For defending Nietzsche. He was very clear. And his break with Wager was part of that disassociation.
"....and how people with such insane ideas got into any sort of power, I have no idea!"
Well, someone hasn't been paying attention to the world around them.
It's astonishing how much of this seems to be a one to one match to the lore of assassin's creed.
It's honestly hilarious to point this out and watch conspiracy theorists rage.
@@hedgehog3180 Are you kidding? We love Assassin's Creed.
lemme guess. you got the boosyer shot... how's health nowadays? You've got til 2026. GLHF
I really like the format on this one. The voice-over on top of the study b-roll with the occasional relevant visual works really well. Great job!
I also find it hard to keep my composure while researching this stuff, and consequently attempting to educate others. But it's so important. Thank you. 🖤
Commenting for the first time on one of your videos. Thank you for slogging through all that ugliness! there are so many aspects of these childhood "legends" we were taught, that are just horrifying in how they were born. Time to wash our hands of any romanticism we might have injected into them! It's hard to "like" videos about these subjects, because they are so filled with hateful cruelty and racism. But I do press the "thumbs up" because you help us pull our childhood fingers off our eyes and help us see the truth. Thank you!
It’s okay and important to say you like this video bc what you’re saying is you like the intent of THIS VIDEO. Not the things being exposed within it.
As a neo pagan, it is really upsetting to learn how much of comparative mythology is based off of the WSicist ideas. I feel like this era of interpretation is going to be a lense of understanding that will have to work around, like Christian records of outside myth.
Janitor at work. " You might need a stiff drink rather than that cup of tea..."
Yes this is the thing to listen to while taking out the trash.
Ah! I've been meaning to make a similar video here and on tiktok! It's crucial for us in the history/archaeology/classics fields to push back against the new growths of these conspiracy theories!
Thank you so much for doing this! I'm definitely going to read some of these sources before I do any filming!
I kept getting “historical mystery” videos. That all basically just spread elements of these conspiracies as if they were 100% true. I stressed myself out trying to research it. Thank you so much for doing this
Your voice continues to be a delight, your scholarship is impressive, and your pronunciation grow more reliable. I'm impressed with your willingness to take on such a topic, over which you might face an onslaught of abusive comments. Courage. Continue to speak truth to power.
It’s always a precarious moment when a RUclipsr dives into a topic you’re unusually informed about. Out of India Theory is a pet subject of mine And I’m quite happy with your coverage here. It gives me an even greater love for this channel now feeling secure that your information is reliable.
"It confirms what I already like and believe, so now I feel it's more reliable."
Nice.
@@revan552 triggered Nazi says what?
@Revan More like "I've heavily researched this subject myself, and it seems like your research has reached the same depth as my own"
@@Fullmetalnyuu0 I would argue that Cinzia's use of only 3 sources, two out of which are dubious religious and right-wing nationalist publications that mainly cite the Rig Veda and are riddled with conjecture and whataboutism is not "in-depth research".
@@aravdogra4192 What are you talking about? Literally all discussions about Atlantis are conjecture and whataboutism because Atlantis doesn't exist. Considering this video is about the Nazis' connection with the concept, of course it would draw from right wing sources.
I tought this video will go viral, because of the topic, but then I realized even I didn't watch it because it's such a hard topic. So I finally listened to it, and I'm even more certain this should go viral. It breaks my mind, how these literal conspiracy theories made so much damage in our world. In the age of the internet I'm even more afraid, because misinformation can spread so easily. So today instead of sleep I'll look at the ceiling.
I know it's easy for me as the viewer, presented with curated information, to not be as disturbed as you were while researching this. For that reason I thank you and commend you for your courage and dedication! I'm grateful for this video, and really impressed by your mental fortitude to pull through with this. You're amazing
Aw, thank you for saying that
One of the ideas that they had stemmed from the fact that very ancient symbols being found all over the world (touched on in the video by the swastika, but also including circles with crosses in them, spirals, various star shapes, etc.) pointed to them having been disseminated by an advanced civilization since those disparate peoples couldn't have invented them independently. But if you think about it logically there are only so many ways you can scratch lines into stone. Also if they were handed down by a 'superior race' then all the symbols would have the same meaning to all the different cultures that used them, which they don't. These basic ideas are the same being proposed by people such as Graham Hancock to prove the existence of an older, superior race.
Also, on a different note, I have studied WW2 for over forty years because both of my grandfathers fought in the entire war. Even as an elementary school child it struck me as funny how all the proponents of the master aryan race, tall blond blue eyed people, were all short brunettes.
That last sentence is something very VERY important to constantly remind.
These patterns are templates, what they all have in common is being drawn by humans.
Also a lot of them are only similar if you selectively ignore aspects of them. The swastika as seen in Europe and India have different orientations and usually in India the lines are curvey.
You're such a researcher, entering such difficult topic and brunging clarity to the rest of us. Thank you.
Oh Im stoked, Im literally rewatching World of Antiquities video about Ignatius Donnelly right now this will be a great follow up
Wow. Your Atlantis series is my first dive into your channel and I'm SO glad the RUclips algorithm brought me here. You are so thorough and you make sure poignant, valid insights. So happy to be a new subscriber! :) Thank you!
I love how thorough you are! You make it super obvious how one idiotic mythos feeds into the next until the absurdity of it all is laid bare. I had never even heard of Thule or the World Ice Theory!
This video is not thorough. If you want the truth, better look into it yourself
@@towboattrash Correct, you should never rely on a single source but instead get a broad understanding of the literature, something the creator of this video directly encourages her viewers to do. I assume that's what you mean and this isn't a lazy attempt to discredit a video you don't like.
The origin of this famous opening line "It was the dark and stormy night" has led me down to the rabbit hole of theosophy and this mythology around the master race living underground.
I have a deep connection with all of this in a horrible way, and I can’t go into any nazi stuff without also “losing my composure” (for me a delicate way of saying being unable to talk while tears just fall constantly). I honestly appreciate your vulnerability in disclosing this and still doing the research
If you're young, no you don't.
@malikchan17 There are present day believers of most or all of these ideas, so regardless of how young Sonorasgirl is they might have been affected by it.
I didn't see any indication of their age anyway.
@@lainiwakura1776 so, I guess only young people use RUclips? LOL
Thank you so much Cinzia for giving us these histories. You always do such amazing and important work!!
Prime example of why I have zero time for conspiracy theories
@@williampotter3369 that it is. Most conspiracy theories have no truths to them. Very few are true and the few that have been proven are no near as fantastical as any of this. Sure some if proven conspiracies are scary and nerve racking but literally none of them have magic or lost cities.
Just because an unsavory group had an interest in the occult doesn't invalidate the subject
don't worry about time most theories have about 6 weeks or so before becoming common knowledge lolololololol
That's just silly. Conspiracies happen consistently, a bunch of extreme lunatics doesn't negate that fact.
@@jeremyt4292 Conspiracy theories and the occult are not the same.
Came across your video after reading a ufo book that praised certain Nazi occultists for their ufo research and was just baffled. I knew about the Nazi connection but the blatant openness caught me so off guard.
Thank you for the hard work
Thank you Cinzia, I can only imagine the slog of research you did to pull all of these conspiracies, obscure, and not so obscure bits of history together. This subject always reminds me of that quote that those how do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I feel like much of the world falls into these patterns of alt history, psuedoscience, isolationist thinking and so on by not having a sufficient understanding of history. I hope your content and others works helps some of us feel more sane and possibly avoid falling for such theories in the future.
This was a great video. I absolutely love this series. For anyone interested in the academic study of the esoteric and occult in the late 19th and 20th centuries, I highly recommend Angela's Symposium here on RUclips. Dr. Puca is very knowledgeable and brings on some amazing guests!
Another fascinating gem from you, Cinzia. When I saw the topic I was very interested, as this is an intense, multi faceted and complex crossroads topic. You really challenge yourself and I love it.
So certain parts of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail" were not far off. The Nazis really were searching the world for this sort of mythic stuff to use as super weapons!
This is also the main inspiration for the Zombies mode in Call of Duty.
I came upon this video looking for exactly this information: how did we get from Atlantis to Wyt Supremaci? I watched parts 1 and 2 first but waited to watch this because I knew - I KNEW - it would take some emotional fortitude.
So I 100% understand why you needed a break.
Thank you, most sincerely, for this essay and the work you did putting this all together. It connects up a bunch of stuff I've researched or seen in ways I didn't know. I appreciate this video so much!
Thank you for going through all this to provide us with this video. It's fascinating to hear about. My dad knows a lot about WWII so I got a lot of history from him but I knew very little about the who woo side of it. I can only imagine how exasperating this was to research.
While I was kidnapped by aliens and subjected to terrible medical experients they told me that Atlantis existed and that they had caused it's destruction. How can you argue with aliens?
I am a latecomer to your channel, but luckily, it appears that I have stumbled upon a veritable treasure trove of fascinating and densely layered videos featuring some of the best narration I've heard. Thanks!
Yes the far-right has a way with incorporating different symbols and subjects and claiming it was always Nazi. Atlantis was always meant to be allegory. Never a factual place.
This was so fascinating! Thank you for doing all the research!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
First things first a lot of information covered and have enjoyed watching the 3 videos (so far). Secondly You did an amazing job keeping your composure a difficult topic to discuss.
"Formed on a base as strong as a barf made out of cotton candy." Best commentary I've heard today!
It’s cool watching you study as you explain this to us.
I'm jealous of her desk lamp. They were popular in banks, so they are easy to find, but they are rising in value, at antique stores.
I guess that they aren't widely produced anymore.
Just to add a tiny fact to Chinza's presentation. Vril is lifeforce under Theosophy. John Lawson Johnston, who was involved with Madame Blavatsky and the Theosophy scene. He created Bovril, the Beef exctract drink. Popular in the UK. Bovril is Bo(bovine)vril (lifeforce), the lifeforce of a cow. The word Vril itself is from an 1871 book, Vril: The Power of the Coming Race. This book greatly influenced Blavatsky and her circle.
I would love to see your bibliography and know the books on your desk.
I'm the kind of person who is always looking at bookshelves of other peoples homes, looking for new resources.
Wow. I didn't realize how much theosophy and nazism had to do with each other nor with Atlantis.
My head hurts now too.
Thank you.
And theosophy is behind so much, including the UN (which even has a theosophy meditation room), the World Economic Forum, and the World Health Organization. That occult religion underpins practically every major organization and government in the west. I didn't know about any of this until recently and my head is spinning. MK Ultra, transhumanism, post-humanism - so much insanity is related directly to theosophy.
I am impressed by the amount of time and work that must've gone into this video.
Cinzia makes everything better.
Thanks so much! I am a bit of a prehistory buff, and wasn't able to make the connection between indo Europeans, indo aryans, and nazis. This clears it up for me: they made stuff up to suit their wicked ideals. Thanks again! I subscribed 😊💜
". Invited Apollo around for a dance and a dinner. ". Fascinating ... 😂😂😂
"...perched on a foundation as strong and as logical as a bath made of cotton candy."
This is my new favorite way to describe pseudo-academic nonsense. 🤣
Thank you for sitting through all of the research to educate us on this ever important topic. Especially as a german, I really appreciate it!
Also, Robert E. Howard's Conan the Brbaian's background was based on mythology that was active at the time it was written.
Thanks for putting all of that nazi fever dream together for us. If it helps to put you in a better mood, you could read a phone book and id be enthralled.
Damn this was bat shit crazy. If this would have been the first time on your channel I probably wouldn't believe you. Oh my God!! This must have taken so much time and nerves. Thank you for your sacrifice!
It all summed up at onces quite a shocking and outrageous shot of insanity!
Have you looked into hollow earth mythology? The rabbit hole is literally deep.
Now we all know that the NAZI's were bonkers evil psychopaths...
That line was perfection.
An insult to psychopaths tbqh.
O yes, the Stiftung Ahnenerbe. I once found a booklet in an antiquary shop, that was issued by that society, and bought it. Not because I thought that anything written in there had scientific value (except, maybe, if there is actually a discipline like historic political psychology), but I didn't want to see it fall into the hands of someone who would believe in that nonsense. I had a read, and found that it was not only tainted, it was pure mental poison.
This is so fascinating and utterly bonkers. I really learn so much over here. Thank you!
I’m drinking monster instead of tea. Is that okay??
Usually a bad sign, but acceptable under the circumstances
Wow, I appreciate all of the research that you put into this series, but boy was it dense, I am likely going to have to watch the whole thing again just to fully absorb it.
Amazing vid! I gather James Webb's The Occult Underground is a little outdated on some points but it goes into a lot of the nitty-gritty in the first few decades of the 20th century if one wants to know more about the links between Blavatsky and the Nazis.
Commenting for the glorious algorithm
I'm not sure how I stumbled onto your channel, BUT I'm glad I did!
Started a fire while I listened with a warm drink. Snowy outside.
Great video!
I think one of the worst things Helena Blavatsky ever did was use the term race for her groups of people. Any analysis of the text really seems like she was trying to say a word like ages or time periods that her "races" happened to coincide with. It actually reads like a weird book on the evolution(both physical and spiritual) of human beings from like these spirit entities to what we are now. I mean if you read it the way I and a lot of people believe she intended it to, the idea of "Aryan" is not a racial group but instead applies to the entire human species of that time period. Aka our time period. So if reading her words more accurately, we are all Aryans. Whether you are of one ethnicity or another. Everyone om earth alive in this time period is an aryan and we will be replaced by another group of humans who will "evolve" from us into whatever they're gonna be. Now I don't believe all of this in the slightest, I've just done research. I'm just saying this to show that Helena Blavatsky wasn't like some proto nazi in disguise. The nazis just took her word "race" in her works and ran that whole idea as far as it could go. TLDR the nazis would literally take any pseudo-science bull shit they read and twisted it to fit their narrative of ethnic superiority. Even when the text itself said nothing of the sort
For the algorithm gods.... you're awesome 🎉
It's always wild finding out the link between 2 seemingly unrelated things. My favorite part in the history of eugenics is when the Nordic people's migrated to India to pick up a justification for modern white people liking meditation.
That was really considerate of the ancient nords
Aryan peoples lived in the plateau of Iran, and in addition to Avesta, in the Naqsh Rostam inscription in Persepolis, Iran, Darius the Great introduces himself as the son of a Persian and from the Aryan tribe. This is the only historical document in the world where a person directly calls himself an Aryan.
Wrong the Vedas uses Arya in its texts and Sanskrit is ancient and we have a plenty of ancient texts
Wow, i am here then. I am sure you put alot of reasearch in that topic! 😮👍
Very well researched and scholarly video indeed. Also your pronunciations were very cute. ❤❤.
Can also recommend "Hitler's Monsters". Many thanks to Cinzia for shinng a light on this tangled and batpoop crazy web of mythology, racism, and craziness.
“Uh! I simply could not do a thing, quite as outlandish and gregarious, as have a drink whilst I give my talk, for fear of what might people think.”
I was so glad you showed where the uh... "German Government of 1930s" got their creation myth from. So hoping you continue that trend and well specifically how modern "spirit science" spirituality specifically came out of the "aryanist" antisemitic reading of Blavotsky/
Really brightens my day ❤️
Is that you, doing all that typing and looking at the screen?
It’s very soothing, actually.
In the words of Atun Shei Films (if I remember my source correctly): “it’s not that hard to go from ancient aliens to ancient aryans.”
This is a great summarization of an incredibly bizarre topic. I would suggest keeping this in mind when reviewing James Lindsey's / New Discourses's work.
Great video! Thanks for all your work.
Excellent video. I mean wow! First RUclipsr I've actually felt like expanded on my knowledge of this subject. 😊
HAVE to see this. Greetings Lady!
To separate aryan and semetic, the former were identified with the SONS of NOAH. I died a little there, the insanity of the whole thing.
"Perched on a foundation as strong and as logical as a bath made of Cotton Candy" 🖤🖤🖤
It's great to hear the "true" history behind the Wolfenstein games.
I love your voice. I love your attitude, especially in this video🤣 I have ADHD, and are absolutely amazed how you could research this topic. I would have just gotten even more angry at the nazis and just left it😅
Meanwhile on the other side of the Atlantic the aristocratic oligarch class in America was obsessed with communism hermetic Gnosticism and Rousseau’s noble savage theory which is still preserved today by people like Klaus Schwab and the modern collegiate academic system
Wow. That was impressive. Great job!
Thank you so much for putting yourself through all of this to produce a fascinating and highly relevant video. 🌹
It was only scatty and incredibly hard to follow because the Nazi beliefs are scatty and incredibly hard to follow. You did your best to insert logical order in a place bereft of it.
Great work, subscribed.
12:45 that's interesting... we still learn about that theory in school (at least in my country - Poland)
Here in Montana USA, the word Thule is pronounced T'hool, with a soft "h".
We've never been able to speak properly in the US!
Well done Cinzia as complex as that was it kept me riveted.......Really could do with a stiff drink though
I know how dense and infuriating this topic and others like it can be. Thank you for the deep dive. It was great!
Thanks for the information. Who doesn’t love knowledge?
Might want to look at the different "entertainer's secret" type recipes for vocal work.
Thanks for this fascinating Atlantis video! 😱
Glad you enjoyed it!
I enjoyed your lecture, hugely
A pleasant way to spend my morning. I enjoyed your company
I absolutely love your channel
Fascinating and well presented historical info - well done and ty.