AITA For Making A Bride Feel Ugly Because I Looked Too Good? - REACTION
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Hey ya'll! Today on my channel we are reacting to some posts on one of the spiciest reddit threads around, AITA.In this video, a wedding guest asks if they are the TA because they looked better than the bride, a student who asks if they are the AH for making Karens feel bad about asking to speak to the manager, and a post about a father that doesn't want his wife to pronounce his child's name pronounced with an accent.
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Hi Charlotte. I understand what you mean about your name been pronounced differently. My mom named me Heidi, but most of my family lives in Mexico so they can't pronounce my name very easily or even spell it. Most of time they pronounce my name like Hadis the god of underworld lol
"Upstaging the bride" is such a western concept. In indian and south Asian weddings in general everyone dresses their best, the bride doesn't require every one else to dull their shine so that she can shine, the bride is the bride, the center of attention and nobody can take that away from her no matter what anyone else's outer appearance is, it is the bride's day, everyone has gathered to celebrate her union with her groom. That is the inherent confidence and the bride definitely isn't a b*tch about what anyone else is wearing. You can wear the same colour as the bride and she will still not mind. It's like "we will all look our freaking best and party for 3 days straight".
I love this concept! This is how it should be!! We all already know attending a wedding that it’s all about the bride AND groom, (they forget it’s about him too) as it’s their special day, but to make it a competition because your guest come looking beautiful is envious behavior which is toxic and not a good characteristic to have. I want everyone to look beautiful and handsome at my wedding as a matter of fact, I’d take pictures with them as a keepsake, because I would love that we all look amazing and capture the moment!!! I wouldn’t feel slighted or up staged unless a woman deliberately comes dressed in a wedding gown with a bouquet of flowers, a veil and train.. then obviously that’s an issue😂
In Addis, you gotta wear white (and I know Americans have don't wear white or anything white-ish at weddings rule). It's not necessity but it's definitely preferred. Everyone better look their best cause honestly, the bride would still look better than anyone there so it's not an issue. Wearing any less than your best is actually weird since you'd be underdressed. Weddings, birthdays and graduations are the places where the guests are expected to go all out. Whether the main person who's being celebrated is upstaged or not, they'd be the center of attention so there isn't even a competition. Idk why the westerns have this unnecessary and dramatic concept.
Not quite sure it's solely "western". There are just other ways to make a bride shine in other cultures. When my aunt married, in my uncle's family (not in the western tradition at all), she wore 5 dresses, changing as the day went on, each dress in a more ridiculously ornate and fastuous fabric than the former. If that doesn't scream "I'm the queen today", I dunno what does...
@@k.v.7681 Every bride goes out to make the "I'm the queen" statement. But unlike the western ones, and like your aunt, the bride goes all out to outshine everyone instead of being offended by the guests for looking their best. They're not wrong for looking their best.
@@rukia5678 Sure but my point is that in a way, western tradition makes it so brides are "easily" outshined, in a way? At least when people stick to tradition. A single dress. White. On a budget (let's be real, having credit cards to burn cash is quite uniquely american, you'd be hard-pressed to find other western countries where your average Jane affords a dress the price of a new nice car...).
I also wonder how inflated the bad impression about western brides is because of the internet. Internet works in bubbles, and being on the western bubble here, and people having quite a tendency to look at negatives and blow them out of proportion compared to reality... and on the flip-side, western is broad, because sure the attire tradition is similar, but the spirit isn't. Where I live, most brides feel and look special but also couldn't care less about competition and instagram shoots. The reception is comprised of family made-food, good drink, and general familial fun. The whole formal image of a "western wedding" with high gastronomy and stuffy procedures is really not THAT common on the whole.
Edit: all that to say that yes, people should dress nicely, sure, and shouldn't "dress down" but thee's still a couple key points of finesse and courtesy that can be expected (like for instance not wearing white).
My cousin was a total bridezilla at her wedding and even sent letters to everyone afterwards basically grading everyone on their attire and how they acted on "her day". My sin was that I apperantly wore a suit that looked more like funeral attire then wedding. I sent a reply explaining that we should consider this a practice run and I'm sure I'll be a better guest by her third or fourth wedding. I have a feeling I won't even be invited to her second.
😂😂😂 I love your reply to your cousin.
So instead of enjoying her wedding she spied on her guests and took notes??? Wow,,, she must really love her husband!
Best reply. That will leave her annoyed.
I'd be sorely tempted to write back and grade her wedding dress. Neckline too low / high. Length. Skirt type. Sleeves.
And I'd follow it up with "Why did you pick a dress that made you look fat? Or was it not the dress?".
Hahaha! Now that's the way to handle that BS for sure!
“dressed like Grace Kelly” is one of the greatest compliments a woman can get!
Yes!! She actually became a literal PRINCESS, so seriously awesome!
@@hannahhester8376 Yup, might've became Snow White....
I thought she was dressed up like Cinderella...
She might have meant "dressed up like a car crash", given how Grace met her tragic end.
Wow! So true
Is anyone else shocked that in the wedding story the ENTIRE guest list took “cocktail attire” as t-shirts and jeans? Seems like there was a miscommunication about the attire. No idea if it was malicious... but it very well could’ve been
I think it was just a trashy wedding
Cocktail attire requires at least a button-down shirt, sport coat, and preferably tie, or a dress that is within 3-4” of the knee, above or below. Nicer than garden party, less formal than black tie. Any of the guests could just…google it, it sounds like the attire was listed on the invites?
@@Miss_Camel i almost feel like the guests were told casual except for the one girl
My exact same thought
I was having a hard time believing the validity story. I don't like to doubt people but it's such a huge leap. Surely at least some of it was fabricated or enhanced.
It’s a sign of respect to dress to the occasion. Invite said “cocktail.” She matched the dress code instructions perfectly.
Right? And she didn't even go out of her way to buy something new.
Exactly.
That's what I was thinking, why were the bride and groom dressed in casual clothes if it was cocktail, makes it sounds like op was sent a different invitation than the other guests.
Yet!! I’m the 666 comment….
Sorry but yeah I agree
This is evidence that people use words they have no Idea what the definition is. Lol they meant casual lol
I doubt it was really that hard to outshine a bride who didn’t brush her hair and wore what sounds like a quilt dress.The bar isn’t high with that one.
Yep, if it was a themed wedding, they should have warned the guests as well, I guess
@@Bane_Amesta yep. If she wanted gothic, they should have held the wedding in a cemetery 😂
I feel like she thought cocktail meant bar attire, but if her and husband decided to wear gothic style they should’ve requested black attire , that way despite someone being gothic/ comfortable in goth attire or not, can still just wear black and that way it doesn’t seem to be someone can out do the bride.
@@kaseysewick1691 right. You can’t blame someone for crossing boundaries you haven’t set 😂
@@CarriettaCarrieWhite no. I’m not a hair expert
As a goth myself I would never be jealous of someone in a Grace Kelly look on my wedding 😅 if that was my aesthetic, I would wear this style but it's not 😂 if she (the bride) was confident about her style, I am sure she did not see a guest in a fancy dress as "more beautiful".
Fr. Im a goth too. If that dress and heavy makeup was truly what the bride wanted, she should’ve owned it and communicated the theme. Instead, she got jealous of someone in a style she asked for. I’m also sick of everyone saying how ugly her dress was. She picked the dress. It’s her wedding and her style. But again, even she seemed to think her own outfit wasn’t good enough.
My daughter put her self through university working in retail, she had a customer berate, swear and yell at her one day, telling her she was too stupid to get a better job, SCREAMING she would always be stuck on minimum wage.
SHE INFORMED HIM, carmly she had just completed law school and had achieved a 1st degree with distinction and was on the Dean's honours list, and that she was going back for her LMBQ? (masters). And then she asked him.... what he did for a living?
LOVE HER X
SLAYYYY! The audacity of some people to be so hateful to someone who is just trying to do their job! I hope your daughter is having the best life she possibly can!
It wasn't a woman?
@@stephaniewozny3852Why does it matter?
@@PirateSkitchan because its usually women who harass and abuse customer service workers.
if that first bride wanted a casual wedding she shouldn't have put "cocktail attire" on the invite LOL
Exactly! It seems like she wanted "beer attire".
@@jaggae9 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!
@@jaggae9 exactly!!🤣
LOL for real! I was thinking that too. Should have been more specific but as soon as I read what her wedding dress and makeup was like figured she has no class anyway!
Seems like she got causal and cocktail mixed up going by the groom wearing a tux graphic tee with jeans
The coffee shops “prank” is a customer service dream. Make them feel bad for being assholes, the customer is NOT always right.
exactly
I once heard a long time and very experienced colleague saying very humbly to an irate new customer : " Thank you for being patient with me, because I'm new on the job and I'm very nervous. " Stating a blatant lie about the attitude of this customer sobered him and he replied : " ... oh well ... you're welcome (?) ". Worked like a charm.
Exactly 💯
Not the a-hole people need to be in control of their emotions and not bother people lol but I love this
Yes, and actually might help them think twice before they try to hurt someone
The bride only questioned what she herself was after she saw how nice the other girl looked. Sounds like immediate regret!
Fun fact: There was an actual position in Department Stores that handled this situations back in the 1900s. They were called "Fired Men" which are actors hired to be fired whenever a customer complained
Daniel: let the kid decide how it should be pronounced once he's old enough to decide. Problem solved.
daniel later: "you shall call me Thor"
@@iramage2235 tbh that'd be a win win situation
Plottwist: daniel will come out as trans later
@@ms-fh8ed and the moms pronounciation will be right! daahniel, sounds like danielle :) maybe they switch the name to danielle in that case, haha
@@pineddew it doesn't really sound that close to danielle, everyone keep saying that i am starting to think you are not getting right the pronunciation of one of the two, because daniel is Dah-knee- ehl, and each syllable is said short and blunt. While danielle has the "ielle" part more extended and the 'L" sound is softer and more like...dragged. also the da in danielle is more like an long open " duh" sound , than a short blunt "dah".
But anyway , i also thought the kid being trans thing XD, i say the kid would change the name to Amanda, that is said the same in both pronunciations, and that would be the end of the conflict ( because the feminine form of daniel in spanish is " daniela" , not danielle, and daniel with spanish promunciatio is an only boys name, so that would keep the conflict going)
On the "Cocktail wedding dress" story: OP's not at fault, although it appears she was the only one at the wedding that actually understood the term.
Right?!?!
Yeah…Clearly no one googled cocktail attire…they just wore what they wear when they go get drinks at the local bar
Yeah... That's why I have a problem believing the story. If everyone else dressed differently, there must have been a reason other than every single person except for OP being dumb.
Including the bride 😂
@@Ysmir. Or… The bride verbally told her friends “casual” and didn’t checking the invites.
I didn’t send invitations but everyone was either family or co-workers and verbally told that they should come to the church, that we were having a small private family only lunch, but there was an open house party at my in-laws. We also handed out flyers at work. No dress code, just show up.
When I said to people “everyone is welcome at the church and the open house later” people looked confused. What I didn’t know was that my fiancé thought that if you came to the church you were obligated to bring a present so he told then that the ceremony was family only… hence the looks of confusion. When we walked down the aisle, there was about three friends and the family.
I said after to my husband “I was surprised that so few friends showed up. “That was when he siad “Oh. I didn’t want everyone to bring gifts so I said that the wedding was private”.
That evening, it was a packed house at the in-laws’ (and it was the World Series and the Blue Jays won… and everyone brought gifts. What a dubderhead.
I went to a wedding in my 20s wearing the suit I wore in high school. The groom came up to me and said I looked better than he did. Again, I wore a suit from highschool, that barely fit. If they don't make an effort to look their best, they are to blame lol
On the accent thing: My niece is also a Charlotte. My sister wanted us to call her "Charlie" for short. However, that never quite caught on. What did? Since her brother, who came along later, couldn't say her name, he started calling her "Char-Char." So, naturally, she is now "Char-Char." And it is even more adorable since it was her younger brother who inadvertently gave it to her 😁
My names Georgia, my little sister stared saying it like JoJo because she couldn’t say my name when we were both really really little. And then it become a name only her and our parents used when I was small. My sister name is Zoë so it became JoJo and ZoZo. Sometimes my parents use it every so often like an affectionate they when they hug us or something. But my sister and I don’t use the nicknames with each other now we aren’t kids. But I still think it’s adorable that she called me that as a baby
Damn, the niece could have been nicknamed like a pokemon based on that nickname (like, it could have evolved into Charmander to make a joke or smthin. Maybe only the Pokemon fan of my brain that thought out that)
Anyway, similar thing for me:
The grandson among the cat family that my family has was initialled named Moïse (Moses in English) because one time, je walked on what was covering the waterpool, so it was like he walked on water (my sister and I were little, please spare us the comments about us being uncultured swines or smthin), but my cousin, who was even younger than us (well, still is, but ykwim right?) couldn't pronounce it and ended with Maurice. Which coincided with an ad and a joke so Maurice it was.
Second cat story like that, our adopted cat was named Minus, as a little but endearing kind of way mean name, and he still has a baby cat face now, and because of that and the fact he's very affectionate and wanting hugs and cuddles, when smthin was done by a cat we all were saying like "Meeeuuuuh non, c'est pas lui!"( Naaaah, it's not him! but with the local accent) and since he's called Menon. (On his veternarian/health book with all the papers, it's still named Minus, but he only knows Menon now)
"Char" actually means "tank" (the military version) in French.
My neice could not say my daughters name so she become lala
I got married recently and my friend was absolutely stunning, she always dresses her best. But it was my wedding and I knew that I was the star, so I didn’t mind. That’s how that bride should have behaved, her husband isn’t marrying the guest.
I agree. It would be one thing if OP dressed over the top, but what she described sounds like very standard, tasteful wedding attire appropriate to the dress code stated on the invite. Also, why would the bride request cocktail attire if she and groom were going to dress like they did?
At my first wedding, I really did not care as much as I did about my new husband's and some of his family members' and friends' behavior. (That really should have been the final blaring signal that the I just need to do a 180 and end the marriage before it starts.) At my second wedding there were two individuals' clothing options who at the time pissed me off. One was my MIL's caregiver, specially hired for that weekend who decided (not being Indian) she would wear a nice saree like my MIL while dominating my MIL and acting like she was an honored guest rather than there as support and my godson, who did not want to be there (but his parents would not let him stay home, showed up unwashed wearing his rag/rebellious clothing and a major scowl for the whole service. (Note, in regards to my godson, I was more pissed at his parents for not letting him stay home and making my wedding a teachable moment.)
@@wanderer7956 sounds to me like the bride didn't remotely know what cocktail attire *IS* and just copied invite language from an online template for invites.
At the end of the day, they are the bride. The attention will be on you regardless.
I think that this follows the thread of do you want a marriage or do you want a wedding. As long as the guest isn’t being overtly disrespectful ( like wearing a wedding dress herself, or something completely ostentatious) this feels like much ado about nothing. It’s still the bride’s day and she seemed like she was going after a very specific look. Whomever the person she went with should have given her a heads up about what they would interpret as appropriate and their general style. How is a guest who is new to the group supposed to know if they are unorthodox and choose something to wear based on that?
I think the pretending to get fired thing is great. Maybe they'll think before they act next time. Unfortunately people really do get fired for people complaining over nothing. Seeing the pain they cause right in front of their eyes shows them it's not okay.
I worked in retail and I wish I could have done this!
I agree, it’s a great way to teach Karens that their behavior is not okay.
Yes, people do lose their jobs in restaurants due to customers who arrive already angry and take it out on the wait staff because they can. Managers are far more concerned with keeping customers than with keeping staff. This is even more pronounced in wealthy areas where customers spend heavily and staff can be treated unfairly (and undertipped, even for impeccable service). Decades ago I worked in a restaurant in central Virginia. VERY wealthy country clubby clientele. It happened a lot because the owner-manager allowed it to happen.
Yes! A few years ago my coworker came to work (retail) with freshly polished nailed and bumped one and it chipped. A customer complained that she had multicoloured chipped nails that made her look unkempt. She got written up! I was there that day and her nails looked fine. It was one chip! And her mismatched nails were the style of having one sparkly nail on the wedding ring finger of each hand. It was what most people get if they get gel nails. She was a good employee lol we had new rules put in place about nail polish that they all had to be the same colour and never get chipped 🤣
I would have loved to prank mean customers that people got fired for stupid complaints
Yes, this is the perfect “revenge” against complainers! I love it!
As someone who has parents who can't agree on how to pronounce my name... I am now 35 yrs old and have anxiety whenever someone asks how my name is properly pronounced.
I usually just makes a joke about how I don't even know because my parents switch it up... but really inside it is really hurtful. We carry our names with us for our whole lives and it is one of the first things people use to judge/gauge/get to know us. Not having a solid grasp of your own name is literally no better than just not naming your child at all.
I kinda feel you! I moved to a foreign country and noone except for my bf can say my name correctly. Even his family. I'm also a bit anxious while introducing myself as I want to use the proper pronunciation but I know they are not gonna say it right so I usually just go along with the local version of my name. It all feels a bit weird
lol change your name to something super basic just in spite of this. You don’t even have to legally change it. Just say “I’m Sarah now”
Wow you vet “anxious” because of this? Grown a bone. Ffs
Similar experience but it more other people skip over my name and assume it’s the English form not the French. Even the Spanish version is slightly different in spelling and pronunciation. I kinda just answer to anything close enough and just value the spelling as a personal identification when it comes down to it
It's not hard,pronounce it the way you prefer.
2:30 They did not say that the bride was Gothic. The bride could have brushed her hair, put on light makeup, and worn a classy white/off white dress if she wanted with pearls or diamonds as her jewelry. It is not the guests' fault if that was not stated.
She literally said the bride wore a gothic dress? By "not brushed" she probably meant a bat's nest. Teased big hair.
The Spanish speaking mom specified that she had a reason and intent for the way she pronounces the name. It is not an accent issue, it is an intent issue. Not the AH.
Exactly she said his name was too anglo
EXACTLY. Blatant disregard and specifically said "too anglo". I am married into a Latin/Italian family and even my husband has had to tell his family to back off with things like this. Especially when they try to exclude me from conversations by speaking Spanish (until the day my husband told them he waa telling me everything they were saying). This is a common issue in Latin families Charlotte, it wasn't just "her accent" but sure lets call the man who wants his SON's name to be pronounced how he likes an AH. 🤨
My ex husband once told me I mispronounced my own name. Not the reason I left him but if it had been the reason, it would have been justified.
It sure would be, I got the gears in my brain screeching just trying to process that
I bet there were many other reasons, when someone doesn't even respect the way you pronounce your own name.
My ex tried to argue with me about the color of My eyes?! He said they are hazel and they're not, they are brown. Like, I'm sorry my ordinary brown eyes are not good enough for you smh
My uncle-in-law pronounces our daughters name wrong all the time. I have talked to him about it several times, even offering him a nickname instead, which my husband hates but would prefer over the butchering of her name. "Ay" to "ah", xi to "she", and all broken up into different syllables like he is intentionally pronouncing each sound wrong. Augh. I get it, some things are accented and some things can be hard to pronounce in a different language, but at least try or take the way out. He is slowly converting other people to his pronunciation who have been saying it correctly for years and I am about ready to loose it. I correct him and them every time but apparently I don't have as much clout with the family even though I am her mother.
I think Nta for the naming story. The wife knows the spirit of the agreement that they made and is twisting to fit herself. If it was an inability on her part to say the name the way he intended then they would have an adult conversation about it rather than resort to petty passive aggressive ways to get her way. I think there are issues on both sides of this point but neither of them are talking to each other about the real issues here.
On another note, think of the children. That poor boy does not need his name to be a point of contention between the two.
I agree
I find it so insanely frustrating, because I can see both of their perspectives, and I have my own personal feelings about “ethnic” names (for the record, I have one). I really think that they need to sit and talk.
I also come from Mexican American parents. They called me an Anglo Saxon first and middle name. Thankfully they agreed on a pronunciation right away but as I grew up the schools always choose the Anglo Saxon pronunciation not once did they correct them. They just didn’t care. Also it caused no complexity in me it’s just different pronunciation. I feel like the father needs to get over himself and keep calling him Daniel. Eventually the kid will pick the one HE likes the most when he’s old enough. Just because most of her family will say it the Spanish accent way doesn’t mean he’ll like it more in fact because it’s common he may agree with his father and opt for the more “fancy” American English pronunciation.
I am a South Indian kid, my parents moved to North India. Nobody pronounced my name right. Nobody. It was frustrating, and I hated it. I feel the father's frustration,.
@@RKNancy the difference is, is that you’re not Northern Indian. This family is Hispanic and the mother is a Spanish speaker and he is by default Mexican. So he is part of that culture and Daniel said in a Spanish accent is how his family would say it if the Dad did not hate his own heritage. The boy cannot forgo his heritage because his Dad doesn’t accept himself and his wife, and the boys literal bloodline.
@@SongofBeauty you're literally ignoring that half of his heritage is white, that she AGREED he could pick the name, and that she OUTRIGHT CHANGED the agreement by saying she would not pronounce it the way he asked because she "didn't want an anglicised name". She's actively refuting their agreement to spite him.
I had this exact thing happened to me...I had never been to a wedding that wasn't "nice". My husband's cousin got married two months after our own wedding. I dressed in standard "wedding guest attire": nice dress, high heels, earrings and a necklace, nice hairstyle and makeup; just standard for any nice event. We had flown in for the wedding, and all communication before the event was through my husband. When we got there, everyone else was in jeans, Tshirts, and running shoes, including the parents. I was mortified. I went back to the hotel and changed before the reception, but the damage was done. They treated me horribly after that. It was my first time meeting most of them, and I instantly got the reputation as the uppity "thinks she's better than us" woman who married their cousin/friend/nephew.
It sounds like your husband failed to communicate the dress code to you. What did he wear? Especially if it was only you who stood out. Also, he should be defending you here.
With all due respect, you had no idea you were going to a trashy wedding. That was your husband’s responsibility to let you know and also to have your fucking back when everyone started shitting on you.
Wow, trailer trash
Same her! Hubby was best man. The last wedding I had been to was nice dress. I show up in a nice dress only to find everyone in jeans t shirts and hoodies. I'm dying of embarrassment. I sat alone in during the wedding. One the way to the reception I had them stop by our house so I could grab a change of clothes. My daughter's were dumbfounded. They had spent hours helping me do my hair and makeup so I looked nice. ( I normally am in jeans and my hair is in a ponytail) I haven't been to a wedding since.
You did your job according to the info you received. It was not your fault, and if those people couldn't understand that they were a holes
The pronunciation thing: if it was about her accent, fine, but it isn't or she wouldn't have said she didn't want them having Anglicized names. She is doing it because she wants the kid to have a different name. Her argument of Anglicized names is fairly self explanatory. She pronounces the kid's name incorrectly on purpose. That's all there is to it. He absolutely is NOT an asshole. The wife is. She is saying the name wrong because she doesn't think the American version of Daniel is connected to their heritage/Spanish enough. She's doing it on purpose so she is absolutely TA
agreed, people seem to be ignoring the part where he said "she speaks English with a very clear American accent"
And it low-key bothers me that Charlotte is clearly saying "rules for thee but not for me", no matter how much I like her, I can't agree with hypocrisy.
I agree with OP on the name pronouncing thing. My name is “Holly” but anyone who has a Hispanic accent always pronounces it as “Holy” or “Hooly” and I absolutely cannot stand it!!! 🤷♀️ I would get annoyed if someone was constantly pronouncing mine or my child’s name incorrectly and in fact I do get upset at like automated messages that pronounce my sons name is name is “Reily” we just spelled it differently than like Riley or whatever and the automated messages always pronuce it like “Ree-ley” and it’s annoying lol but I don’t understand how someone can mis-pronounce “Daniel” it’s a pretty common name… 🤔
It don't even understand the comparison between a goth wedding dress and a cocktail dress, they are 2 completely different styles and you can't really objectively say, that one is prettier than the other. You can look really good in a goth dress and really unhygienic in a cocktail dress, vice versa.
I also got the impression that the guests either ignored the request for cocktail attire or they didn’t know what it meant. Those phrases seem to be falling out of use so it’s not that big a surprise. Disclaimer: I haven’t been invited to a wedding in a long time so I could be wrong.
I'm sorry but I don't understand what an unhygienic dress is.
@@louisejohnson6057 I meant a person can still look unhygienic or scumpy in a fancy dress, the dress doesn't necessarily make the whole appearance, sorry for the confusion (not a native English speaker 😅)
@@irgendwoaunid4048 oh, dirty clothes, I understand you now! Don't apologize, please, it's not necessary.
That was my thought EXACTLY.
No, I get what the dad is saying. His problem isn't that she pronounces it differently but that everyone appears to be following her lead which effectively means that that's how the kid's name is pronounced now by their circle of friends, family, etc. I get why that would annoy him when he didn't intend it to be pronounced that way when picking the name.
It's a big deal because the mom is capable of cooperating but isn't. This is a bit of a betrayal. Men don't like that. She wouldn't like it reversed.
Yup. He should start introducing "Rosa" as "Rose." What's good for the goose...
Yeah I get it too honestly
It's not an accent thing it's literally that she is refusing to take his wishes into account and is getting everyone else to follow suit.. I would be furious.. names are so important and depending on pronunciation, spelling, and origin can have very different meanings... the name you choose for your child is like a prayer you speak over them every single day and for you and your spouse to be at odds like this it's very confusing and upsetting for the child.. (my parents could never agree on my brothers name and settled for calling him different things, he hates it to this day)the wife is the asshole here for sure
She also made it clear when she said that she didn’t want any of their kids to have any Anglo names. So she knows what she’s doing and she doesn’t care she and she does not care the deal SHE made with her husband
I'm siding with the Dad with the name thing they had an agreement, and she is intentionally going back on it. She even said she doesn't want their kids to have angelical names, so she is admitting she is doing it on purpose.
Exactly. He's definitely in the right on how he feels. He's not TA
Yes, but only if he pronounces his daughter‘s name Spanish every time.
@@BlueberryDragon13that's some critical information that was indeed left out! Is he pronouncing the daughters name as 'Róó-za Máá-ria' or 'Rouh-za Ma-ríía' - from how the guy posted his opinion, I'd bet it's the latter, which would be the anglicised way of saying it, which is not how the wife intended.
Then he should have not married a proud latina... he would have a heart attack had he married an italian or an italolatina 😅 we pronounce our names depending on mood 😂😂😂
@@vickylovera88Or his wife could be respectful of his wishes because that IS his son as well. Being a proud Latin doesn't give her the right to disregard the other half of her child's blood line. 😝
I showed up for a wedding like this and was also more dressed up than the bride. Which isn’t saying much because my dress was from TJ Maxx and was $25 but I was so overdressed. Very uncomfortable 😳
That's when ya turn around and leave.
@@lubabe9969 I did not stay long. My boyfriend at the time was pissed that I left but I really wish someone told me everyone would be in jeans basically 😂
Better over than under, every single time.
I’ve been in almost the same wedding situation. I was 18 and were asked to help out at a wedding, greeting the guests when they arrived and such. I bought the nicest summer dress H&M had and borrowed my mom’s good jewelry. I was better dressed than the guests who wore jeans, t- shirts and sneakers. Afterwards I heard that the bride was very unhappy with my outfit and that some of the guests trashed me as well.
That’s so annoying! I mean when you go to a wedding, by default you dress better than casual. Sorry you had to deal with that!
@Purple Citrine I love your sister's attitude !
@Purple Citrine I. Love. Her. Now THAT is how someone should be on their wedding day! 🐾
@Purple Citrine great sister! Hugs about the cake. We ordered my daughter wedding cake from our local Walmart and it actually was beautiful and it tasted lovely. Sorry your sister cake wasn't right.
@Purple Citrine I'm so glad it tasted nice. Im in charge of the grooms cake for my sons wedding. They wanted cupcakes luckily I have a good friend who does fancy baking for a reasonable price. They met playing pokemon go so the cup cakes are going to be pokemon themed. Not super fancy tho. We have tons of younger kids and teens so im hoping they go over well.
To see an example Google pokemon cup cakes and the ones that are like an ice cream swirl on top with candy ears/face accents are the style lol.
The kids wanted their big cake pokemon but her mom was like uh. Naw I don't think so but I got full permission to go pokemon on the cupcakes lol. Have a great day sweetie.🥰
Maybe the bride and groom thought “cocktail attire” meant clothes you wear to the club to get drinks. So they meant club wear and she showed up in actual cocktail attire. Lol.
It actually sounds like the problem is that she showed up looking like money at a broke-arse event. So the bride and maybe others felt class shamed maybe more than beauty shamed.
The first story just sounds like nobody knew what cocktail attire meant, and neglected to do a quick Google search. If I were the bride, I would feel insulted that nobody else bothered to dress up for my wedding.
The name thing:
If she speaks with an American accent all the time and then hits hard with a Mexican accent on "Daniel" then I can see his point.
Like the difference between accents on the name Thomas. TAW-muss versus Tow-MAHss
If she speaks with a Mexican accent all the time then it is just how she would say the name normally. He said she speaks with an American accent though.
I'm pretty sure she is doing it on purpose since, as she said and everyone is ignoring or hiding over "just an accent" (an excuse already debunked since she speaks english with american accent): she does not want their children to have Anglicized names.
So actually I have no idea what OTHERS are smokin here, because this goes beyond a naming
She knows her husband, she AGREED to decide a name each, YET refuses the name the parent said. People named in a certain way WILL correct someone if you get the accent wrong, so why are we ignoring when the Anglo one is named wrong when, sorry for repeating but is necessary, *she speaks english with american accent* ?
NTA, his wife doesn't respect him/his choices. End of story
does it really matter tho? that's the point
@@dishasharma5624 It does. As I said many people WILL get angry or correct if their name is mispronounced, because the accent DOES make another name. The mother is trying to reinforce another name, disrespecting her husband choice. Is not that hard to understand. It goes deeper, is a matter of respect, something a couple should have, but the wife obviously does not for her husband
Yeah it also sounds to me like it's intentional, as she clearly stated that the reason of not calling "Daniel" with the American accent is not having an Anglicised name, and it's not like, that's just her accent and she can't pronounce it any other way. It's not about "hiding" anyone's heritage or not being proud enough of it, it's just that they made an agreement which she refuses to go along with. Idk, I'd just start calling the older one Rosemary xD
@@dishasharma5624 If it doesn't than the little girl should be called Rosemary.
the coffee one: honestly shocked the customers changed their tune. a lot of customers like that actively WANT to get people fired. its messed up.
Me, too! Honestly, it kind of restores my faith in people a little. It also is evidence that maybe most of the shitty customers aren't die-hard Ksrens, they're just normal folks who had a bad day and lost their temper. It's still not okay to take out your crap on service professionals because you think you can get away with it, which is why I think OP's "prank" does indeed teach them a good lesson about the real harm they cause to another human being when they act like that. I do agree that the lesson might be too harsh, though, especially since some of these people might have serious personal reasons for the bad day.
I worked a shitty receptionist job once where people were so awful that I struggled not to cry nearly every day I was there. One day, someone treated me so particularly badly that I nearly lost my own temper and lashed out. I'm so happy that I didn't! It turned out that he was in excruciating pain due to a health issue and wound up collapsing and needing an ambulance. You just never know with people. If someone might really be suffering in some way, is it really such a funny thing to load guilt on them for consequences beyond what their actions would even normally cause?
I suggest doing the same skit but giving it a happier ending- have the "angry manager" let himself be convinced by the regret-filled customer. That way the lesson is learned but the customer leaves feeling like they made a mistake but were able to fix it and learn from it.
Seriously though, it's upsetting.
The Spanish dad is NTA. I'm maori and my husband is English. I make him pronounce words in my language the way they are supposed to be pronounced. This includes our sons name. My husband chose my sons name and couldn't even pronounce or remember it for about 2 weeks after he was born. It's about respect for other people's cultures. If you can't pronounce that's one thing but you should always try.
Agree. I don't know what people aren't getting. It isn't that hard to practice a single word until you pronounce it correctly. Especially when it's your own sons name and as noted she seems to be able to speak fluent English with an American accent. The father says he doesn't care but he clearly does or we wouldn't be here and it sounds like his wife is flippantly disregarding his concerns. I'm not implying she's terrible or anything either. She probably doesn't recognize that this is important and just enjoys letting her cultural roots flow out. The couple needs to talk this out more.
@@jontobin5942 Most wyt people are uncomfortable with making judgments about somebody’s culture, so that just agree to not look bad.
I kinda agree as it sounds like the wife is doing it on purpose so both kids would have a Spanish sounding name as he said her ability to pronounce the name correctly is not an issue.
@@loverofawesomeness1 being from a Spanish speaking country, the pronunciation of Daniel in English isn't at all difficult, so I say she's just being petty for the sake of it.
According to him, she even said she doesn't want him to have and "anglicized" name. She has decided that he would not have the name he chose, he would have the version of the name she chooses. Basically, she told him he could choose, then proceeded to ignore his choice because it was not the right one in her mind.
This happened to me! I dressed really nice to a casual wedding, my date & I were the only ones in a tux & dress besides the bride & groom & apparently she didn’t like that…… SHE NEVER TOLD US IT WAS CASUAL!!!! I felt so fucking awkward & my friend, the husband, actually said I was brought up a lot in fights & he jokingly blames me for their divorce
Oh my. Naming a kid is like a minefield. I once met a couple on a high-street that had passerby's pronounce the names (written on a piece of paper) they were thinking about. One of the parents had a foreign background and they wanted to make sure that people could pronounce the names. Thought that it was a very sweet approach, focused on not making the kid's life difficult.
I agree. My real given name is alien even to people from my dad's country and eventually had to settle with variants of Paul once I hit high school. I'm fine with it now, but it was obnoxious dealing with it as a kid.
I knew this woman, she married one of my closest friends, and I went and saw her shortly after the birth of their first child. Now I'd heard the child's name, but I'd never seen it written out. So I call the baby AMberley, she gets pissed off and tells me angrily that her name is EMberley, and informs me that Amberley sounds like a strippers name. She was an odd duck.
My friends did that too! They chose a different name in the end because everyone (from multiple backgrounds) pronounced the name very differently from the traditional pronunciation. I am glad they tried it out so the kid didn't have a lifetime of correcting people.
It sure is a tricky business, but I think this guy's story is not about that. He made it into this weird power thing over his wife, as if he has a problem with not only her accent but also her identity. Really weird shit, I feel bad for her.
I want all my daughters to have names that mean "Princess" because all of my daughters will be my little princesses. We're still deciding on how many total we want because it means a lot to me to have a big family and to adopt. I feel like after 3 pregnancies I won't want to carry again so we may adopt 2 children to make it 5. He wants a max of 4 and of course I want to make him happy. So maybe we'll have 2 biological children and then adopt 2. Who knows. Anyway god forbid we have 3 biological children and they are all girls, the names we decided on Sara which means princess in Hebrew, Kiara which means princess in Swahili and Maelie (pronounced like Miley Cyrus) which means princess in French. We'll probably do that for our last daughter.
Okay I'm in for you getting the gavel/judge hammer thing, but I think it would be even more appropriate to get a fake almost kid one. The kind that squeaks when you use it lol
I vote with you on the squeaky gavel!
Me too-I vote with you and Peggy!
Yeeees ! A squeaky one please Charlotte !
Hahahhahahahah yes
I agree
She admitted that she’s doing it on purpose because she doesn’t want Anglicized names. She’s the AH.
100%
1000% wife the AH
100%
She's not, she has the right to give her son his ethnic inheritance.
@@victoriacruz3610 she agreed to his choice and then changed it to suit herself. She being controlling and manipulative.
Love the cocktail attire story. I'm always so terrified of being overdressed, that I usually end up looking underdressed and plain. That's why I love that she got to look her best, no matter what the family said afterwards ♥️
It is better to be overdressed than underdressed. So, love go ahead and flaunt. Not to other but to yourself. Say, "Look me, I have such creative mind". I do not wear make up but my jewellery are always on point. I mean I love to wear matching accessories. Always. And I never miss. I blow my own mind like how I manage to pull that off. Few dresses (I meant dresses) back I wore a dress with 5 petal flowers because I found my old 5 petal earrings, matched it with 5 petal ring and found a locket in my sister collection to go with it. Guess what was the locket? Yes, 5-petal flower. All matched and in gold. I was so happy and proud. I showed it to everyone at work!!!!
I love the firing prank!! You are not the asshole!! These entitled people who throw tantrums need to learn a lesson! Some service people do get fired because of customer complaints.
I LUV LUV LUV the coffee shop prank. There needs to be more, immediate consequences to being nasty. If you're making a server feel small and devalued, then you need to be called on it.
I wonder what happens if that customer returns and finds the employee still there and witnesses another "firing"?
Ooh, yes. I like this prank. Some AH's need to see what their actions may cause.
@@elewysoffinchingefeld3066 Might be too embarrassed to return to "the scene"
I’ve gone to a wedding that said “semi-formal” on the invitation and people showed up in jeans. Disrespectful at best.
the lc US standerd "cocktail attire" is one step BELLOW "semiformal".
You keep repeating this. Do you mean to say that there are two different definitions in the US, depending upon one’s SES? Or are you trying to insult all Americans, but no one is taking the bait? If it is the former, you are correct, but I think it more formal than you understand, the latter then you picked the wrong forum. We’re all here just to watch her videos for fun. Nobody wants to argue or throw insults.
I did something similar. Our secretary had turned in her notice and this was her last day on the job. This woman was so incredibly kind and was very good at her job. A client called and was complaining about her. She said awful things about our amazing secretary, none of which were true. I just said, "Well, you don't have to worry about it. She's gone! She is done! You will never have to deal with her again." This lady backed up so fast and hard, her butt was practically beeping. She begged me not to fire our secretary. I just said, "Nope. She's out of here. I promise you she will not be here tomorrow morning!" The irate client was practically sobbing by the time I hung up the phone. I like to think she learned to control her temper after that. lol
It's the fact she insisted because she wanted a different sounding name. She broke the agreement
About the "firing prank":
- first, kudoes to the owner's teenage son/week end manager. It's so nice to see solidarity and it's cool of him to play along with something that could back fire on himself;
- second, how is it possible that a highschooler, a teenager, could be mature enough to reflect on her own actions and the possible uneasyness she could, maybe, create for an adult while this one is having a temper tantrum?!?!?! I hope that girl realize she can't, by any meaning, be considered as a bad person when she a child actively trying to improve herself and solving, non-violently, a situation infuse with agressivity build by an adulte!
- I don't care if they are right or wrong to do that prank: even if it's a mistake or conterproductive, they demonstrate so much more moral qualities, while being playful as kids, than the sad and pathetic "adultes" involved... let kids having fun!
She's a teenager, not an infant, basic self-awareness isn't some super rare thing.
I don’t think that the prank is even a thing but I highly disagree with what you’re saying! They’re in high school and COLLEGE! They’re not 5 years old lol! You learn right from wrong, the feelings that come with doing something wrong etc. you learn those very young. You sound like someone justifying any and all bad actions because they’re kids lol! If a 14 year old gets pregnant, it’s not just like oh well of course she did! She’s just a child! What did you expect?! Or a 17 year old getting pulled over for driving drunk, well at 17 what did you expect? They’re so young! Age is age, it’s not an excuse to excuse certain situations and behaviors. Yes I do understand that the prefrontal cortex is not fully developed until 25, that is true. However! Being responsible for yourself and your actions happens far before that!
@@EnderSword Thinking that the prank may reinforce bad behavior when it has only has gotten good behavior for her isn't basic.
You know, teenagers deserve a hell of a lot more credit than we adults give them. Their understanding of the harsher realities of life may be limited, but they are definitely still capable of deep thought and introspection. Not to mention teens are often dealing with high levels of insecurity, so the concept of a teenager wondering if she went too far with what seemed like a harmless prank at the time isn't exactly groundbreaking. Just because they tend to hide their thoughts and feelings behind layers of sarcasm and defiance, doesn't mean that those thoughts and feelings aren't there.
@@giggle_snort absolutely!
The baby name one cracked me up! First, it sounds like Mom and Dad have very different ideas about how much they want to make their heritage a part of their every day lives. Mom was raised to be a Mexican who happens to live in the US and wants to do the same with the kids, but Dad was raised that he was American who happens to have Mexican ancestry and also wants to do the same with the kids. Anyone else think they should have talked about this before they got married? Just saying... And OP, if you wanted your son to have an Anglican name, might want to pick one that isn't also used and spelled the same way in Spanish! It's like naming him Martin and being mad she says "mar-Teen." Just watched some Fluffy videos, got that name stuck in my head!
There is a difference though. If I would take my bf’s last name (which is Martin lol) it would be pronounced in English as it is intended to, saying it in Spanish would be incorrect since it’s not “mar-teen” it’s “mart-inn”. The heritage thing is completely different than pronunciation
As soon as you said "mar-teen" I just *knew* you were talking about Fluffy and his introduction of his friend 'Mar-TEEEEEEEN" 🤣
@@drinaramirez1114 guess what Spanish speakers would still “mispronounce” the name, why? Because we don’t say it the way you say it, but honestly the husband was being too much Rosa and rose aren’t even the same name so he can’t use that as a comparison while Daniel and Daniel are the same name. You get used to people saying it differently and become a little more special
@@lunaxz36 i agree with the rose and Rosa not even being the same name, I think his example using that was incorrect. Plus he can pronounce Rosa without the Mexican accent, if he wants to. He wouldn’t be changing her name, just the pronunciation. I don’t think it’s a big deal that his wife pronounces Daniel that way, she isn’t breaking their deal. Daniel is still Daniel, it’s the name the sad chose. I think he has a problem with the whole heritage thing. Which as the original comment said, they should’ve talked about before doing other things
He’s probably whining because he can’t speak Spanish or roll his rs
I worked with a woman that had an obnoxiously overbearing father-in-law. They told him that they were naming their baby one name. He wanted them to name the baby what he wanted.(These aren’t the actual names). They named the baby Robert. Obnoxious grandpa constantly called the baby Alexander. TO THE NURSING HOME WITH YOU!!!
With the coffee shop being "fired" prank, I absolutely loved it !!! I wish more people would do that so it would make the friggin' rude customers realize that they cannot get away with that awful behavior! I applaud them !!!! 👏👏👏
About the name story: NTA
Where I live, being able to choose a child's name means choosing both the spelling AND the pronunciation, because for us the different pronunciation means a different name.
As an example: David. In our group of friends were three boys, one with German, one with American and one with French pronunciation. Nobody would have thought to say that they have the same name
If by "cocktail attire" the bride meant "what you wear to slam Jell-o shots and do keg stands", then the rest of the attendees were dressed appropriately. OP doesn't need to feel bad; it sounds like the bride was not happy with multiple aspects of the wedding. Instead of dealing with the stuff that she wasn't satisfied with, the bride focused all her upset on one person and had her mom pile on OP as well.
Jell-o shots and keg stands made me laugh so hard I scared the dog.
That’s the issue isn’t it? That the bride and her family thought they could criticise their guest because they were upset- like, be upset but no need to harangue your guest/family member! 🙄
Indeed. I'm sorry but if you write "cocktail attire" and then the groom arrives with a tuxedo t-shirt..you don't know what cocktail attire means. 'Grace Kelly' was correct.
When she said they want to look their best, I took that as a sign of anxiety and possibly having been made fun of for not always having been the prettiest person or something. Some people think that they only look ok in their best and therefore they need to dress and look as nice as possible,always, because if they don’t they see themselves as ugly.
As a Latina/Hispanic I couldn’t help to get bothered by the very last AITAH. For reference I came to the US when I was 11 in 2013. I spend I good amount of time in my country, I speak, read Spanish fluently. I believe people missed the point of the parent. There is names that don’t change in any language. Yet NO name it’s supposed to change in any language and I’ve gotten to this subject with a friend who is from Egypt. It is sad that they came to an agreement and she still did her own will as a lot of female do. Find loopholes and do what they want. It is THEIR kid but why agree if u are going to do what ever u want. I am pretty sure the dad is ensuring that in school, clinics and more to say their names how they are supposed to so…why not at home as well. It has nothing to do with ethnicity, race or whatever else. Humans have found ways to do what ever they want always losing respect for one another and for people choices. Even tho this is not a “heavy” argument for them (which I think he is like to make peace) but I can bet my life other things are as well similar to this and could potentially create separation.
I was getting legit concerned when the video didn't show up on time. Glad to see everything is ok..... & it's called a gavel (not sure if I spelled it right though).
Me to i was like is she cool
My bad, forgot to schedule this one 😂
@@CharlotteDobre Charlotte don’t be tardy 😂💚🏴
@@remove574 in my head, you pronounced her name like her grandmother did. Shar-LOTT!!!
@@JamesQMurphy hahahahahaha
I knew a little girl whose parents each pronounced her name differently. Spelled Elena and one said Ah-layna and the other Ellen-ah. Accents were not a factor. They never acknowledged it so we had no idea if we would offend one of them if we used the other pronunciation. The little girl answered to either, but when I knew her she wasn't talking much yet, so we couldn't figure out which variation she wanted to be known by. We defaulted to the mom's pronunciation because we saw them together most often, but would use the dad's if she was with him. It was awkward
That's confusing since Ah-layna and Ellen-ah sound like two different names. Poor kid. That's kinda something you need to discuss when your kid is born
We even had the discussion with my brother and ex-SIL how to pronounce my nephew Elijah's name when he was born
4:13 I wonder if the dress code was changed to “come as you are” and nobody informed OP.
i love being spoke to and having my name pronounced the way its meant to. its a big struggle when someone asks my name and i say the version of it in english because it just wont be pronounced properly in the native way and they ask if i'm foreign and when i say yes they ask how its pronounced in my language. i tell them and they butcher it, then they always say 'was i close?' no. no you were not and now it is awkward because to me it seems like an insult because most of the time they don't even try when i try help and correct them. especially when my surname, when teachers and people ask my name and surname to put on lists/sign me up to things i always just spell out my name then just give the initials because i am not about to upset myself over it.
i can definitely sympathise with the dad, the son will probably grow up unsure over his own name and will be confused on how to pronounce it because everyone would be telling him a different version. its best to stick with one version and in this case id say the dad's one is right as he DID name his son what he wanted it to be and the mother is just pronouncing it wrong on purpose
Last one - I get his point. They had an agreement, but this was a slick way of getting what she wanted with no regard for his feelings.
As a Mexican with an Anglicized named, it doesn’t matter how your named spelled or originally intended to be pronounced. I have every single nickname that is a variant of my name depending on who I am with and honesty I love it. Like no one called me by my real name, except my mom and it’s cause I’m in trouble.
As a person with a name that folks CONSTANTLY mispronounce I COMPLETELY understand how that dude feels. It’s more about the principal of bih that’s not my name or in this case the kids name. My eldest child’s name is Inez per my mother (ines) wishes, and my Mexican husband and his family stay pronouncing it with a hard E and a long S (E-nesss) instead of (I-nez) and I hate it cuz bih that’s NOT the child’s name. So nah he is nta his wife just wants to hispanify his name without realizing it’s actually quite rude to do but since it’s her child she dgaf lol.
2:45 little time ago, some students at my school organized a ball and invited everyone. The posters and the e-mail said “Cocktail”, I didn’t know wtf that was so I googled it and bought something nice. The moment the car was parked I started panicking because I saw some girls go inside wearing casual dresses and sneakers, *while I was in a super elegant jumpsuit and heels.* I convinced myself that they were the exception and went in, the moment I stepped foot inside, I realized there really was no such thing as *”an exception”.* There were as many people in pants and hoodies as there were in bridesmaid-looking dresses. Basically we were all located somewhere on a scale from caring too much to not caring at all XD
To offer an alternate perspective on accents affecting names: The whole reason I usually go by my nickname when meeting new people rather than my full, Italian name is because so many people consistently refuse to pronounce my full name properly and I got sick of correcting everyone all the time. Even members of my own family get it wrong years later. So yeah, I can completely sympathise with the Dad on this one.
From the sounds of it (if he's being honest and she really is putting the accent on solely when saying his name), the wife is deliberately pronouncing the name with an accent because she doesn't like Daniel having that particular variant of the name, rather than because of her accent preventing her. I can see that being annoying, especially if that then becomes the most common pronunciation everybody is using. Ultimately though, it'll depend on how the kid reacts to it as he grows. He might not care.
EDIT: Fixed my definition of Daniel because I messed up and said it was Anglican when it's Hebrew. I want to say the focus on language got my wires crossed or I just had a dumbass moment, but either way it was my bad.
Nobody pronounces my name correctly! NOBODY. because its arabic name & I'm not an arab nor do I live in an Arab country. I feel like I've spent most of my life correcting people, asking them to say my name correctly. Most of them still can't. Now I don't care anymore. Pronounce it any way, I'm dead tired of correctly people!
People can't pronounce my name so I gave up a long time ago. I either let them pronounce it however they want or I provide them shortened versions/nicknames. It is just easier lol
That's why I love going to Brazil, people say it exactly how it sounds. Love it.
That was my thought on the this one, too. She doesn't want them to have Anglicized names so she's being petty about it. (Both people are being a bit petty, but he is not the biggest A-hole here).
I have kinda the same phonemes duality with my name (Manuel) and I've never cared how's pronounced in neither of both languages... I think it's stupid to get mad at that, specially when the difference isn't that much (srsly, it's just accentuation, in english being "Da/Ma" the strong syllable at the begining whilst in spanish is "El" at the end)
I completely agree with this I would be rather upset if people started calling my child a name I did not give them. My name is Madeline but is pronounced like Madelyn cuz my parents aren’t so bright and don’t know how to spell. But now I just go by Maddie.
I am sorry, but if the bride in the first post chose to look like a hot mess on her wedding shows that she was insecure already or, she didn’t know the meaning of cocktail attire and meant a casual.
*casual
Yeah exactly 💯 what's weird to me is that OP said in the invitation it was clearly labeled cocktail attire. Yet everyone else who got an invitation was dressed casually? I don't get it. How did everyone else there know they meant casual not cocktail? Maybe the invitation said the reception will be cocktails in the garden or something and OP took that to mean cocktail attire? Which is a fair assumption I would assume that too. I just don't get how literally no one else followed the dress code.
@@WhitneyDahlin maybe the other people saw the groom and bride more often and knew what they planned in detail.
@@laurafalsetti7178 Yeah, that's what I don't get. There was obviously a communications failure somewhere. Either OP didn't know them very well (in which case it really shouldn't matter unless she turns up in a full wedding gown because she's likely to be at the edge of things anyway so who cares) or there's more to the story. It's a little suss that she was talking right away about always needing to be done up, even for mundane affairs. I know many people feel that way and insecurity is a bitch, but there was a bit of a defensive vibe coming off that. I feel like maybe there was a little more context that was missing. Some of these AITA posts can get tricky that way, especially because we are only getting one side of the story. If it was a genuine mistake/miscommunication, then OP absolutely is NTA, these things happen and it would have been uncomfortable as hell to be that overdressed to a casual affair, I can empathise with that and then getting a bunch of abuse for the mistake would also be very upsetting. On the flipside, it could well just be that OP went over the top, the wedding guests might have been in nicer attire than they're letting on and they might have been - even if not purposefully - backing up their flamboyant wardrobe with attention seeking behaviour that deliberately placed them in the spotlight. Not saying that's what happened, because I just don't know. With only one side of the story, it's very hard to judge. Given the info available, it seems unreasonable to pile in on one person for wearing something nice and accusing them of trying to steal the spotlight.
11:21 I don't really think so ,because if her reasoning is that she doesn't want to vs her accent she's not respecting you. My dad misspelled my name on my BIRTH CERTIFICATE by adding a accent in the wrong place (öe (oo as in zoo) when it should have been oë (ohee as in chloe)) so no. Nta in my book at least. Especially since it sounds like she's deliberately pronouncing it differently
For the first story, the invite clearly stated that it was 'cocktail' attire. That means it is a formal event. The poster followed that rule to a tea and, to our knowledge, didn't wear white. She did nothing wrong and is NTA.
See, this is why I’m always nervous about what to wear to events even when they specify a dress code. My immediate response is “What exactly do you mean when you say (insert dress code)?” as I feel like too many people have their own definitions of things.
I loved angry customers when I worked retail, it is a lesson in navigating negative people and honing your social skills. My favorite response was given by my Store Director, Catherine when I worked for Tiffany & Co. Some entitled "Karen" (The moniker wasn't in play at the time, but believe me, the "Karen" existed) came into the store and was very upset that we were busy on Christmas Eve. She yelled across the store "What kind of idiots work here"? Catherine took her aside and smiled and asked "What kind of idiot do you want"? "Karen" stood there in silence and for a few moments they exchanged "eyebrow communication" and then "Karen" left in silence! Class act my SD.
Regarding the Daniel incident, my son is named William. People were always trying to call him Billy, but I made damn sure everyone called him Will. At 29 now, he said he would be horrified if anyone called him Billy. It’s an identity thing. NTAO.
I am a photographer and one wedding has me asking what the attire is cause I showed up at one wedding dressed better than the bride and I was in a pant suit. So now I always ask what the attire will be.
The issue with some of these posts is that people do go to AITA for validation and as such they aren’t always going to paint the reality of the situation. If it really did say cocktail attire then why would everyone dress like a bbq? Perhaps because that wasn’t actually on the invite. But who knows. All I am saying is that it should all be taken with a huge grain of salt.
I agree!
I was just thinking that. An asshole who doesn't think she/he is an asshole would tell the story a little differently.
Absolutely. The way OP described what I picture to be a quite standard dramatic gothic dress and describes her hair as "unbrushed" (when goth style uses backcombed hair for volume a lot) made me very suspicious of her telling of the story. These posts should be taken with a grain of salt!
I saw someone else say here it was actually “ casual “ not cocktail and she just said that as she didn’t really pay attention and wore normal wedding attire. I personally think they should’ve just gone with black attire to fit the theme and not be “overdone”, but like to think the bride thought cocktail just essentially meant bar so that’s why they were dressed for a regular bar.
It could be a generational thing. If the OP is of an older generation, she dressed as she was taught what cocktail attire is. I would have dressed in the same style as she did. Also, it could have been a printer's mistake. The bride and groom most likely meant casual, but the invitation came back with cocktail.
The whole Daniel thing, at first I was like yeah maybe it's her accent...but then when he said she admitted that she doesn't want him to have an English/American name and purposely says it that way so nobody else says it the American way. That's messed up.
I know it’s 8 months since you commented this but I just needed to say- THANK YOU! Say it louder for the people in the back!
@@britnymichelle4245 yes! I agree. I agree with the husband. The kid could get confused too.
Yea it's a pretty common disagreement to have with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation immigrants actually idk why reddit dubbed him the AH.
@@8701sara same like she said she could say it right but shes just not
I posted this somewhere else but I gotta disagree. My parents say my name with different accents (one is Indian and and the other is Indian American) and they respect each other’s pronunciation. My dad definitely doesn’t throw a fit just because my mom says my name in midwestern accent, and my mom respects my dad’s wish to embrace out heritage. Just feels like he is being immature about it. It’s a literal vowel, get the fuck over it
I live for charlottes AITA vids. “HOW ARE YOU NOT EMBARAAASSED!!!”
The wife that is "saying" their son's name wrong sounds like she may be doing it on purpose if she has an American accent. I am stuck on the fence about this one because my daughter has a friend that I can't say his name any way except with a Spanish accent. My grandmother was Spanish and I went to school with alot of Efrines (F-rye-ing) so I can't seem to call him anything else despite everyone else (except his mom that is a friend of mine) calling him Efin (f-ren). That said, if Efrine or his mother would have corrected me, I would have out of respect learned how to say it that way. Mom is doing it on purpose.
I've worked in retail for years and can confirm that I have lied to customers just so they would calm down. I am quite thin and ended up getting a job at a well known plus sized store. We had regulars and a lot of guests traveling. I just needed a job and knew people who worked there. Id even wear some of the product as i love oversized tops. It was fun!
Well, my size did upset some customers. They would go as far as to make all sorts of very rude comments about about my size. Sometimes even go on rants. There is a difference between being innocently ignorant and outright disrespectful. This would be just about every other day. At some point out of spite I began telling customers who were disrespectful, along the line of "Yeah, cancer REALLY kicked my arse. I lost so much...and so much weight and...didn't think I'd survive..." Suddenly they'd back track, or they'd just quiet up...
Maybe I AM an arsehole for that, so what? I give the best customer service possible,(treating the customers as I would want to be treated when shopping.) Learn everything i can about the product. Why is something as irrelevant as my size or weight matter? Why is my physical existence offensive?
Wonderful team, and some of the sweetest customers! Even so I ended up putting in my two weeks after eight months...
Take a bow this is hilarious.
Honestly, not the a-hole. They came at you, being rude, they deserve to be put in their place. Fact is: maybe you didn't have cancer, but someone DID. Someone has lost a great amount of weight from cancer.
If this is how they treat YOU just for being thin, they'll treat all thin people like that, including someone who had cancer.
My main problem with being thin is having my food orders consistently disrespected. For example, I order iced capps made with chocolate milk, instead of cream. It's less calories that way, but it also just genuinely TASTES BETTER. Even if it was more calories, I'd still prefer the chocolate milk.
The amount of times I've had an overweight barista look me up and down with a scowl, and proceed to make it with cream, it's just enraging. It's gotten to the point where I will just order a different drink that I like the "high calorie" variant more because I don't want to deal with the hassle of having my drink remade.
Note that it's not a "too busy" mistake. My daily schedule puts me at a time where I get my drink when it's not busy at all. If there IS a line, I simply leave because I don't want to wit in a line, and an iced capp isn't a NEED it's a treat. I just shrug it off and go "bad luck, maybe next time"
I mean, if it was an occasional "oopsie" I wouldn't assume. But they hear me say "mocha iced capp, replace the cream with chocolate milk" and they look up, and eye me up and down, and scrunch their nose. I SEE them glance at me, analyzing my weight. And it's not just me, family member and friends who are thinner also have their "low calorie" or "fad diet" alterations (such as using non-dairy milk) blatantly disrespected after also getting the Scowl of Judgement.
@@jadecoolness101 I’m fat, no need to sugarcoat it and call myself fluffy or some of the other shit some people do, and this kind of shit pisses me off. Some women are obese due to health issues that they can’t control, but I believe the majority of us are obese because we love to eat and don’t work out enough to burn off those excess calories. Shaming someone who is thin is just as unacceptable as trashing someone for being overweight. I’ve known people that COULDN’T gain weight no matter what they ate. I’m sorry that you are treated that way. People forget easily that body positivity encompasses all bodies.
@Kales, I was the opposite. I am obese and when I was a little smaller and in my 20s I worked at Aeropostale. I had to wear mostly the men’s clothing because a lot of the women’s clothing at the time didn’t fit. It was frustrating because the clothing at the plus size store barely fit (I think I was a size 14 or 16 at that time?), but clothing at other stores were too small most of the time. I had very little customer interaction as it was a VERY part time job I had to help supplement the pay from my full time job. A job is a job and any jerk who treats you as less than because you’re thinner than them is no better than people who are jerks to them for their weight. You didn’t deserve that treatment and I’m sorry that you went through that.
@@susieq1279 i don't care if someone is a little chunky though tbh. Life is too short to spend hours in the gym just to be 5 pounds lighter. I can buy into body positivity when it still pertains to health. You can have a bit of extra cushion and still be completely healthy. Morbid obesity causes damage to the body by straining the heart and joints, THAT is not healthy.
To be honest, I don't like 'gym culture' at all. I am very thin in areas that most people see, like the neck, wrists, arms, legs. Heck, I'm almost underweight and I AM working to gain a little. However I, like many women, still don't have a "flat stomach."
I was actually severely underweight at one point in my life, and STILL didn't have a flat stomach. I didn't have an eating disorder or anything, at least not consciously, it was just finding time to eat was hard because of university courses. I'm okay now though, in a healthy weight range, just want a little more to be safer lol.
But the point is, that I've also seen thin women like myself with a stomach pouch be shamed for talking about it. Like, fatter women will claim that thin women are "trying to also be oppressed" or whatever. But gym culture really does put a lot of focus on having a flat stomach to be deemed a "healthy weight" or a "healthy body." "Everyone's body is built differently" is true, but "built differently" pertains to where fat is deposited on your body, not how much you have overall.
I can end with a fun fact: Greek Goddesses were considered very beautiful, and they didn't have completely flat stomachs.
When the heck does "cocktail attire" equal jeans and t-shirts? Online, the technical definition is "semi-formal", which is exactly what OP did. Whomever at that wedding put "cocktail attire" on the invite needs to do their research.
My mom always says my name in French and my dad English. I never thought twice about it. It feels special honestly when my mom says it. If Daniel wanted to be called Daniel "properly" I'm sure he'll express it to his mom when he gets old enough.
On Daniel, I'm going with NTA. The wife admitted she does not want the children to have anglicized names, so her pronunciation is intentional not because of any accent.
The concept of "upstaging" a bride seems a little bizarre to me, I'm Pakistani and in my culture we all go out dressed in our best! I don't think that's ever been much of a issue? Because even with how full on every one is dressed, the bride will be in an even more extravagant dress!
Yeah we Asians never know this concept.
Even us African Arabians
Yup. I'm not going to show up at a wedding like I just left a frat party, my mother would've lost her mind! It's considered disrespectful to the bride and groom since we are expected to adhere to an unspoken dress code in SEA. The one we grew up knowing. My colleague once showed up in a football jersey and the side-eye he got was hilarious.
Well I've heard of crazy ladies wearing a wedding dress that would be bad form but dressing your best is not and should be expected
Yup i agree...upstaging is a concept which we are unaware of in India too. I have seen many married ladies flaunting their own wedding lehenga or saree at their relative's wedding functions...and its totally normal here.
We’ve had a lot of wedding requests on this channel, and this takes the cake for me. The bride was the one who didn’t understand the assignment. It should have said casual on the invitation and this wouldn’t have happened. She dressed as requested. Normally we have more extreme requests like “White Tie” and in that case I think the guests should also follow the request. You have to DO YOUR RESEARCH when sending your invitations.
White tie??? You mean black tie??
She said 'more extreme requests'.Black tie is common. You can look up white tie dress code.
@@melaniehickman5389 White tie is different from black tie although both are formal.
@@melaniehickman5389 I think they meant white tie. White tie is like a tier above black tie, it's even more formal than black tie.
My cousin got married underneath a picnic pavilion at a park. Everyone showed up in tacky clothes...like no one cared. And of course my grams, aunt and myself showed up in decent attire. Like what you'd wear at a wedding or any other event calling for proper attire. We were kinda like wtf...
I know I’m watching this 10 months late, but it’s fucking hilarious that at 1:44 Charlotte complains about a garbage truck outside because at that exact moment our neighborhood garbage collection pulled up outside my house! 😂😂😂😅😂😂
I had wanted to call my daughter Rune, but it was decided that the name was silly and was not an appropriate first name. But I was allowed for it to be used as a middle name as a kind of
compromise.
Early last year, my daughter, who is 33, decided that she was going to go by Rune as her first name. I couldn't be more pleased, that I chose a name for her that she loves.
Congrats on a year of the dragon daughter who loves your name!!! I'm 33 too; Rune sounds awesome
@@cheapskatepanic Thank you!
I agree. I'm 36 and a Stefanie, one of two or three in any given class while growing up. I wouldn't even turn when someone shouted my name in the hallway, it was so common. I love my name but Rune is so unique! Good job ❤️
A good old norse name, but mostly given to boys. Love it though 🤩
See my reply a few above
“A mean prank to let someone go away thinking they’d gotten someone fired”?
Heck no, they SHOULD feel bad! Even if it doesn’t get the person fired, shouting in someone’s face because of a minor inconvenience that the person definitely won’t have done maliciously ruins said person’s day when they’re already working their butt off.
Retail/restaurant/cafe workers all need more love :(
And customer service.
I couldn't agree more. I was a customer service manager for 20 years in retail. I would have loved to been able to pull this off. I would have been laughing so hard too that I'm not sure I could have kept a straight face. lol
LOUDER FOR PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!! I've worked in customer service for almost half my life now, and it never changes. Not ok!
A high end department store in NY does this as standard practice. The fired employee just takes a break. They actually call people who work the floor firemen. It's common for businesses that cater to the classless rich.
My real name (not Selina) was given to me by my Scottish midwife. My parents had chosen Katherine, she suggested Caitriona instead, since I was born in Scotland. My parents both agreed, but for some reason my mom cannot pronounce it correctly. They're both American, and I grew up American, but Dad and I can pronounce it correctly, but she can't. At this point I just pronounce it Katrina because it's unfair to ask most Americans to try, and I was tired of correcting my mom.
Daniel’s dad calling him “my son” instead of “our son” rubs me the wrong way.
I second that. I guess that is the real problem here. Ego trips.
My gripe is, if he does well, it's his son, that's my boy. If he does something wrong its...cant you keep control of your son?
I say...oh oh, dont do something to make dad disown you today. We find it funny.
@@saydvoncripps My parents did that to me growing up. 😰
@@WaitingxInxSilence same! haha
ikr? like he acts as if they can't use both ways of pronouncing Daniel's name
I don’t understand the issues with these wedding guests supposedly upstaging brides with the way they are dressed. I mean, I literally could not have cared LESS about what people wore to mine. I was just happy to have them there. 🤷🏼♀️
If that Tea length dress was guaranteed to be respectful to every other wedding she had ever worn it to, it's not her fault this bride purposely decided to look like trash.
The prank one was not an asshole... It's honestly a good thing that they did this because honestly, to let them see the possibility of what their actions do, makes them realize that they can't do that
I agree with the dad on the name pronunciation. NOT the a-hole. It was the mother's passive aggressive choice, not her accent, that made her pronounce it that way. If pronunciation weren't an important part of a name, Charlotte wouldn't have spent so much time and energy begging people not to pronounce her name the way her mother does!
I agree, one of my friends is named Daniel, but goes by Danielle since that is how it is pronounced where he is from, he got annoyed when people used Daniel rather than Danielle, because he didnt hear it as his name.
The father in the video should have named him Daniel, not with the pronounciation Danielle, thus the wife calling him that is incorrect.
I would have to know if he pronounces his daughter's name the same way his wife does - Americanized or authentically Spanish. Betcha he says it the way he wants which makes him the A-hole.
I agree! She’s clearly doing it on purpose. And if the roles were reversed everybody would take the mother’s side.
@@bonniest.pierre2045 Betcha he does not, since he wouldnt be pissed in the first place if it is about karma
Your "twitterself" is showing
@@bonniest.pierre2045 if you listened to what she said in the video, you would find out that he says the name correctly. He specifically said ‘I don’t call her Rose’ but Rosa Marie
I think the issue with the pronunciation of the name is the the wife speaks in an American accent and so does the husband. However, she wanted to name their first child with a Mexican name while he wanted anglicised names. He respected her choice, but she is trying to troll him. If it was the pronunciation that she consistently used for the name for every other Daniel she met, then he hasn't a leg to stand on. Then he is the A. But as it appears in this case she deliberately pronounces it in a Mexican accent against his wishes knowing full well it annoys him. Then she is being the A.
I agree because I read in that post the she can say Daniel without an accent with other friends named Daniel so I think she is doing it on purpose.
It's so funny. The first story reminded me of something similar that happened to me. I went to a wedding open house for my friend who was the bride & her new husband. They were dressed in their wedding outfits, but some people who showed up were in shorts & t-shirts. I was wearing a cocktail style dress, curled my hair similar to my profile photo, & had nice makeup. I literally said I felt overdressed. To be fair, most of the guests were dressed pretty well.
Seems like no one else knew what cocktail attire meant. Not OP's fault,she dressed according to the invitation.
The one with the Mexican name is an interesting one, I was on the side of the mother until OP mentioned she didnt want her kids to have "anglicized names" She is not doing it because she cant pronounce the name properly, but because she doesnt want to pronounce the name properly. That is a very clear difference. I have a Spanish name and have always corrected people when they say it incorrectly. The mom is being completely disrespectful to the dad, they agreed to each name a child, and she is breaking that agreement out of pettiness.
I dont know why you brought up the accent changing how names sound, being that it is not relevant to the situation based on the post.
YES! And even if she had an accent, international names have a different pronunciation depending on the language. Making them each individual names. “Laura” pronounced in Finnish is not the same as “Laura” pronounced in English. Two different names. So to refuse to say somebody’s name the correct way just shows such disrespect and arrogance.
I agree, my name is Joanna (Polish heritage) pronounced Yo-anna, and I don't particularly like it when people call me Joanna in the English way, as my name is not English and I've grown up being called one way. I side with the father there as he clearly wanted to give a specific name to the son, and not have 2 different names!
I would be extremely confused if i was the son growing up if both parents call me something different...
@@joannapoznanska2559 hey, at least they don't call you "Asia" as in the continenet, happened to a Joanna I know.
@@LookingForFrogs Ah, my parents do call me Asia/Joasia, and yes, the first time i saw it in writing i was confused, but the pronunciation is like Ah-sha
@@joannapoznanska2559 Oh, I am Polish, i know how Asia i pronounced in Polish, but it was a funny thing that happened to my friend when she was going to some student exchange program, she uses Asia in her social media, she was talking on messenger with people from that program, then when she arrived in UK everyone was like "oh, you must be Asia (like the continent)", and somehow even though she was quite good with English it never clicked to her it's the same spelling and it was really funny to her. I kind of had the same sudden realization while texting with my partner few day ago (neither of us is native, but we mostly communicate in English) how word "pies" (polish for a dog) is spelled the same as "pies" (more than one pie).
I was told by a mutual friend that the reason my best friend from 7th grade and up (way more like a sister than a friend!) Didn't ask me to be her maid of honor or a bridesmaid was bc I would "outshine her, and she didn't need that shit." She sure did send the bridesmaids to my fucking hotel room door when her makeup artist was a no show, though. 🙄 I still stayed friends with her for a few years after that, too 🤦♀️ Ugh, on female friends... I've not had much luck 😔💔
We can be friends ❤
Someone wore jeans, a cami, and ,I shit you not, A DOG COLLAR to my wedding, which was formal. This girl dressed for the occasion, and it is so disrespectful to dress down for a formal wedding.
I can't believe I stumbled upon one of Charlotte's first AITA videos. It's like finding a relic of history, evidence of a dawn of a new era, even though it only happened 2 years ago XD
I actually agree with the dad, the prononciation of a name is important, my name is ana, and it's pronounced different then, Anna, Hannah etc. I like the way is pronounced and that's important
well maybe the son won't like it the way his dad pronounces it?
@@crystalh450 Except they're not pronouncing it Danielle. But agree - the mom is exploiting a loophole in their agreement and has admitted that the reason is to avoid anglicizing, which was the reason they had the agreement in the first place.
Agreed. They agreed they both got to name a kid and personally I think that includes the way it's supposed to be pronounced.
Is it a huge deal? Nah. Is it a bit silly? Sure. But if they both agreed to something, both should keep their promise.
And when it comes to accents (even though that's clearly not the issue here) I feel like it's mainly about effort. I have a name that isn't really found outside of my country. My Taiwanese friend has some trouble pronouncing my name, so it usually comes out wrong, but at least she tries to get it right and that's all that matters to me.
Oh gosh....thank God I'm from a country where I can wear anything even that is over shadowing the groom/bride cuz NOBODY F****** CARES if you look more handsome/beautiful than the groom or bride in our weddings.
Same! Indian here and everyone is so glammed up at weddings, it is practically impossible to actually compare! Also, in my opinion, it is impossible to outshine a happy bride/groom because irrespective of what they wear, their joy makes them more beautiful!
I grew up near a significant Chaldean community in the US and the guests look like part of the wedding party they're so done up. I think it's awesome, personally.
Well I would just love to live where you guys live. In my family you better come to a wedding or funeral dressed decently. You don't have to look like you're about to walk the red carpet but you better put effort into your appearance not even THINK about coming in jeans and a T-Shirt. To our family that is extremely trashy and disrespectful to the event and the people that the event is for i.e. the bride and groom or the person that died. If you don't put any effort into looking halfway decent then that shows you don't care about the important day. If you come to something like that looking trashy you will either be thrown out or everyone will give you death glares until you get scared and just leave on your own. And everyone will keep talking about it for weeks. Now of course I will admit there is such a thing in our family as going overboard. Like if some girl came in a skin tight sexy dress covered in sequins looking like she was going to walk the red carpet then she would get the same treatment. Cause at that point you are trying to be the center of attention and you're looking way too sexy for an event full of people who are devout Christians (Not me but everyone else in my family is) and again they will never let you hear the end of it. Bottom line is in my family don't come to something like that unless you are going to respect the dress code. It's toxic I know which is why I'm not looking forward to getting married. Especially because my boyfriend's family is SUPER casual......yikes. My wedding is going to be a bloodbath.
@@sarahhunter1114 Near a what now? What does that mean? (Not from the USA)
@@truthseeker9249 Oh man... I wish I could say it's going to be fine but yeah....your wedding planning is going to be interesting.. my husband and I had a firm grip on ours and we still got drama. Anyway, I think you misunderstood us... It's not that people don't care if you dress decently or not... Trust me, if you turn up at an Indian wedding underdressed, there's going to be hell. However, out here, there is very little scope of outshining the bride because everyone is not just dressed to the nines, it's to the nine hundreds!!! Everyone hits peak dressing and makeup standards because Indian weddings are a damned multi day festival! Mine was a comparatively small, quiet affair with a ceremony on a Wednesday afternoon... I still had about 30 people staying over for 2 days before the event, there were 3 other 'events' prior to the wedding and on the day itself, there were 350 people. That's a small wedding and I cycled through 11 outfits over 3 days not including my nightwear! So yeah...
Sticking up for Daniel. Let him introduce himself the way he likes when he's old enough. I have sympathy for the father. Danielle is sounding like a female's name to most English-speaking people. Maybe he can compromise and let the wife call their son Danielle at home but introduce him as he wants to be introduced.
Exactly. NTAH
It’s not Danielle, it’s Daniele that is an Italian/Spanish male name!
@@lambruscopopcorn9431 And that nuance will be completely lost on almost everyone in the culture this kid will grow up in. This is a mini culture war in this family and the wife is cheating on the rules to make a point against her husband. Unacceptable.