Best Hellcat Pro Upgrades
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- The latest upgrades to the Hellcat Pro are really shaping this thing up into something very different from its stock configuration. The Apex barrel, no surprise, is of the highest quality. The big change change is the extended slide release from Lakeline LLC. Both the Hellcat and Hellcat Pro desperately needed a better option for a slide release and this is going to be the hot item for those guns.
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00:00 Intro
00:07 360TS Shorts
00:40 I Love HCP
01:41 Viewer Requests
01:50 Threaded Barrel
02:02 Blem
03:04 Performance
04:32 Comp?
04:58 Drawbacks
05:42 Holster
06:29 Wedgie
06:59 Barrel Conclusion
08:01 Slide Release
10:26 Concealment
11:05 Conclusion
11:57 Next Upgrade
12:49 Outro
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Hey do you have any problems on the lever rattling? My lever is rattling like crazy
Locking Lever*
@@RobRobz thats really odd. I have two of them and neither of the slide release levers rattles. Email their support. Should be covered under warranty
@@360TacticalSolutionsthanks sir
@@DanielReyesDReyesPT of course. BTW Apex gave me a code for my viewers. 360TS gets you 10% off!!!
Just picked mine up. Great info. Thanks!
Just subscribed, this is a great gun. Looking forward to the upgrades. 👍🏼
Thanks for subscribing. Glad to have you. Plenty more Hellcat content on the way
I've been really happy with my LakeLine upgrades. Magazine Pinky ext, Slide Lock Lever, and Spring essembly has been great so far.
Great review, competent assessment, you're helping me to reevaluate keeping mine with good the addition of some useful upgrades. Up in same region as yourself.
Always glad to hear from people in my time zone. Even more so, always glad to hear that my content is adding value for people. I like my gun stock. It really is a great gun. But also it can be seriously elevated with the various upgrades available. The Hellcat Pro is my #1 gun right now
Just got mine and I appreciate your videos on what to expect, keep it up
Thanks for the feedback. Definitely more to come
Great info, just ordered the extended slide release
You are going to love it. Pretty easy to install as well.
Great video looking forward to the next upgrade video !!!
Thank you. I’m hitting the range this weekend with a recoil reduction system for the HCP as well as getting some range footage for a couple other videos. Supposed to be decent weather so I need to get my filming in while I can
@@360TacticalSolutions Alright can’t wait to see the results!!!
Great video quality keep it up!
Appreciate it!
Thank you, thank you for sharing the website for the extended slide release. That has been my only gripe about the hellcat pro.
I guess Apex has one now too. I think I may order one just to see what its like
Just bought mine today in the tan color. Watched all your hellcat videos before I bought it hahah excited to see what this channel has in the future
Glad to help. I do have more HCP content on the way. Testing some recoil reduction springs right now but its going to be a couple weeks before Im ready to put that video out
Have you looked into armzmen holsters
Cheers man. Hellcat pro just feels like it’s literally part of my body.
I got a swamp fox and tlr7 sub and a holster from packinHolsters and tbh it just feels so natural. The next upgrade I’ll do (that I’m still slacking on) is a trigger upgrade and a comp. I’m willing to get another holster for it. I know it is always worth the extra buck.
Hold off on the Comp for now. In order to do a comp you have to add a threaded barrel and I really think porting may be the better option. If you want to comp then definitely do it if it's in the budget. Hopefully I can figure out a good comp as well as porting service for it soon and do a side by side for you guys. Check out that slide release I upgraded to. That and the Apex trigger in the description are my two favorite upgrades
what holster are you using? I like the one I have now but I would like to put a light on my Pro
@@alllopez63 www.mckinatec.com I use the Talon most of the time. Best quality and value in the business. Also you can use 360TS as a discount for 15%
Nice....one of the things I did not care for on my HCP was the slide release.
Currently I’m using the Apex slide release. I actually think it’s a bit better than the one in this video. You can also use that 360TS promo code at Apex
Interesting getting the view on the threaded barrel. Holster compatibility and comfort had been one of my concerns. Lot more products options available for the Springfield Hellcat.
I’m going to be switching back to the stock barrel while I test a recoil reduction system for the HCP. Really unless you plan on using a suppressor or a comp you probably don’t need the threaded barrel. Not so say it’s not a good barrel but you really just need a use for it or it doesn’t make sense
@@360TacticalSolutions nah man if it looks cool that’s a use!
i have the same with the hbi micro comp try it you will like it, i have been shooting my blem barrel for the past 2 months and love it
I feel like I need something a little more than a micro. Ive tried them on other guns and the increase in performance never feels like its enough for me to justify the comp
I love your videos. I have a Hellcat Pro. I have the Apex threaded barrel, extended mag release, extended take down lever, extractor, and trigger. I highly recommend the HB Industries micro comp, it’s $36 and I can tell the difference.
I looked at that one but I really want something that stays close to the shape and design of the HCP. I feel like its gotta be somewhat square. The HB Industries one, you just torque it down or is it using a set screw to hold it in place?
@@360TacticalSolutionsit screws down and has a O ring that does a good job. I also really like Viking tactics- THE OFFICIAL QUBE. It is square so you might like it. Do you have a email I can send you a few pictures of the HB comp I have.
@@brengro346 for sure, I keep my contact info in all the video descriptions but im available at 360TacticalSolutions@gmail.com
What is the aftermarket mag release? I sometimes release the mag while gripping the gun with both hand bc of how flush it is, looking for an extended mag release.
That one is made by Apex. They give my viewers a 10% discount when they use 360TS at checkout 👍🏻
@360TacticalSolutions what other holsters do you have for the Hellcat Pro? Currently looking for one for mine.
I have all 3 phenom holster from Gcode, I have a Phlster Enigma, I have one from We The People, I have one from a local company that’s not great and the one I carry pretty much every day is the McKinatec Talon.
ruclips.net/video/q4pzVgeQpl8/видео.html
I have a 15% discount code in the description. No matter how many holsters people send me I always go back to the McKinatec
Since it's a threaded install compensator, do you think a Killer-Innovations Comp for Glock would work for this pistol? I have retro-fitted Glock comps for my other pistols such as Arex Delta and XDM.
Im sure it would work just fine. I used the Strike Industries Quad Comp because it has a slim profile that matches the HCP. I have a video up of that
What is your opinion of the Apex Tactical "Failure Resistant Extractor for Hellcat" for the Hellcat Pro? Also please keep us up to date on the porting story! Like you, the Hellcat Pro is my EDC but looking for any good advice. The only things on my handgun is that I installed the after-market Apex trigger and use a Holosun 507K utilizing the DPP adapter plate...
So I’ve had a couple people comment and accuse me of shilling for different companies including Apex. And I really want to start by making it super clear that I am an affiliate of Apex. If you click my link and buy something then I make a couple dollars. I think it works out to like $2 when you buy a trigger. That being said…I don’t think a failure resistant extractor is necessary on THIS gun. I haven’t seen any issues with the HCP that justify changing the extractor. I know some people had some issues with like the FN509 and the Apex extractor cleared that up…but that’s not something I’ve seen in the Hellcat. So that part, I wouldn’t spend my money on.
I like the trigger. I like the mag release. I like the threaded barrel mostly, even thought I haven’t committed to a comp yet. I think for most HCP users the trigger is going to be the main upgrade. Mag release isn’t a must have but if you have the money and it’s not a big purchase I’d go for it. That slide release in this video is a game changer in my opinion. I’m still working on finding a porting service I trust. I absolutely won’t send people somewhere that I don’t 100% trust. Cutting up a slide and barrel is a big deal. You fuck that up and there’s no fixing it lol.
@@360TacticalSolutions Thank you for your timely response... definitely let us know if you find a reliable porting solution. If I send the slide and barrel in if you find a good company, I will likely remove my Holosun 507K with the adapter plate and get the two rear posts shaved down (since the slide/barrel work will invalidate the warranty) and re-attach the 507K directly to the slide to get a better co-witness...
Great info. Could it be the DPM recoil spring system??
Another awesome upgrade is the MCarbo titanium full Striker assembly kit. I put one in and it makes a huge improvement. I also have the Apex trigger, mag release and extractor installed.
Haha yes Im testing a couple DPM products right now. Also as a side note im getting ready to send my HCP to be ported. Thats going to take some time but I think my HCP viewers are going to be real excited about this one
@@360TacticalSolutions I thought so since you said over seas. I found a place in the US that sells them also. I'm eyeing them up, but will wait for your review, since the Pro already has two springs.
@@KevinFox58 ya there's a gun shop like two hours from me thats a distributor but they only carry a small handful or have a small handful of products from DPM listed. So far so good. Im really looking forward to doing that video
I highly recommend the +3 hyve mag extension for the hellcat. 18+1 on the pro model. Thanks for the uploads 🤘
Im trying to convince Floyd’s Customs to get in the game and start making extensions for the HCP. They just ported my gun as part of a test run and I should have it home soon. Hyve is good stuff though for sure
@@360TacticalSolutions I saw that port in your short video. Looks fantastic. Super clean. Can’t wait for the update. Thanks again for your content. 👍
@Alfredo Diaz Ramirez I just ordered two of the stinger extensions. I’ll let you know. $75 with shipping 😵
@@88camaroTT WA banned mag extensions. Ive gotta go through some real shady shit to get my hands on anything these days. Currently running some numbers and figuring out what its going to take and how long till I can move to a free state and hopefully before it affects my channel
@Alfredo Diaz Ramirez I got the springer extensions and they are so smooth. Highly recommended. 15+1 on the hellcat, very compact and well balanced. My ccw for sure. 19+1 on the hellcat pro. Feels great. I prefer the springer over hyve. Thanks 🤘
Is that an Apex extended mag release? I maybe missed it on your other videos. Thanks for making all these vids on the Pro. Its my edc and I love it and all the upgrades you talk about.
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I love the Apex mag release. It was a much needed addition to the Hellcat Pro. Right now im testing out the DPM recoil reduction system. I dont want to push a video out too soon on that one but so far I have noticed a little decrease in recoil
I got the griffin armament Micro Carry Comp 1/2x28 for my hellcat pro. I like it
Ive looked into it but I feel like it's not quite what im looking for. People are getting some recoil reduction but not as much as I think you should be able to get
Has that video been posted yet on this mysterious new upgrade for the hellcat?
Ah yes that would be the DPM recoil reduction springs
ruclips.net/video/xWhGWU_XuXc/видео.html
Then after that it was the addition of the Strike Industries Quad Comp
ruclips.net/video/-2ovPAVRMpA/видео.html
Right now im in my office editing the latest one which is a video for the Barrel porting on the Hellcat Pro by Floyds Custom Shop. I hope to have that video up on Friday
Idk if you don't like tulster holster or haven't heard of them but they are open-ended for the hollcat and the pro so easily fits with the barrel being threaded
I feel like all holsters should be cut with an open end
Have you looked into or used the Holosun EPS carry for the Hellcat Pro?
To be honest I'm not a fan of the EPS. I get the advantage to a closed emitter. Looking at one up close next to the 407K It seems bulky and oversized for a gun like the HCP. Ya it will work but I don't know it's too large a body in my view. I like that you can get it in 6moa but I think there's too much emphasis being put on closed emitter systems these days. Im not saying no one should buy them but in all the work that ive put in I don't see as heavy and advantage as people think there is. If you have a 407K or whatever already, I don't feel it's worth spending the money to upgrade. If you don't have a red dot and you are just torn between a 407 or an EPS then sure, EPS can be great. I just wouldn't rush out to buy one to replace something you already have
@@360TacticalSolutions Thanks!
What is a good holster for the hellcat pro with threaded barrel
Here is a link to a video with information and discount code for McKinatec Holsters. Discounts in the description. I use the Talon Holster pretty much daily. I dont think they still offer fabric wrapped but the holster its self is going to work really well for you for the HCP with threaded barrel. Ive carried mine in that configuration for a while and it works well
Awesome video! Thanks thank you!! Is it uncomfortable to sit with the threaded barrel
It can be. When I sit I usually make an adjustment to help it out a bit but ya its not great lol
@@360TacticalSolutions thank you! I really appreciate the quick reply! I’ve been trying about it but don’t want it to be uncomfortable. I’m thinking about a strike industries circle comp since it’s small
@@metsnyc7797 I tried that comp and it doesn't do a lot for muzzle rise. I actually prefer going with a ported gun vs one with a comp. There are positives and negatives on both sides but for me the port wins. Way more comfortable to carry and you don't have to worry about holsters fitting it.
@@360TacticalSolutions that’s true! I’m trying to reduce it on. 365XL. There’s also a griffin comp but it might be the same as the SI
@@metsnyc7797 I currently have the SI Quad Comp that I use when I use my threaded barrel. Out of the half dozen comps I’ve tested in the last two years I’d say I like that one the most
So it's not an upgrade but I was looking at your old videos and you said you liked the kina flex and preferred the sidecar style but prefer your pro in the talon holster. Is there any reasons you switched?
That’s a great question. Yes I do like using a sidecar style holster for the most part. One drawback is they are a bit bulky. The thing about the Hellcat Pro is that it’s slim and lightweight. It’s the kind of gun you want when you want to really conceal without any consideration toward cover garments or whatever else. So for that gun I prefer a more slim and minimal type holster. When I carry my M&P, most of the time it’s the sidecar holster
@360 Tactical Solutions thanks you I got the same conclusion but I only have an owb holster since I just got my cpl and am able to conceal I need a different holster. I like your reviews/content/opinions so I went with the company and let my kids pick which style to carry first and of course they went with the kinaflex. Always room to get more stuff though. Thanks again for all you do and the discount code as well!
I just wish the backstrap was a little more rounded off. I want to buy a HC pro but I just can't get past how the back of the grip interfaces with my hand. It feels like all the force of recoil would be from the "corner" on the right side vs the more flattened center. Is that something you've noticed at all when shooting?
I haven't really noticed anything like that. I work really hard practicing my grip and making sure my fundamentals are solid no matter what gun im using. The best thing you can do is find a range with a rental program that has the Hellcat Pro. Rent one and put a dozen mags through it. Testing a mag through a gun isn't enough. Takes a few to get the feel for it. Track your targets for accuracy. If you find you are getting good groups out of the gun and it's relatively comfortable then id say buy one. How it feels in hand at the gun counter rarely tells you enough information vs spending time doing live fire practice.
With hot loads and factory recoil spring i can feel it in the heel of my hand more. That’s 125 gr hp at around 1300 fps. I’m working up a 115 hp now tring to get it around 950 to reduce the impulse a little but keep a good expansion.
Any recommendations on Rear night sights.. I find that the horseshoe type sight doesn't give a tremendous amount of accuracy past 7 yds
I’m actually not a fan of night sights. I prefer a blacked out rear, fiber optic front, weapon mounted light and a good red dot. Anything outside of 7 yards is red dot territory, especially if it’s dark enough for night sights to glow and if it’s that dark you souls be using a light to positively ID what you are aiming at which makes night sights useless. Anything inside of 7 yards and you are most likely going to be aiming using muscle memory…point and shoot. Best I can say is Dawson Precision has a great selection of sights that are cut specifically for each weapon. I would start by checking there if you really want to change the sights
@@360TacticalSolutions awsome thanks , I have an eye stigmatism so the dot looks more like a squiggle instead of a dot.
@@ragnarrock2478 I have the same eye issues but for me a lot of dots look like a starburst if they are turned up too bright. I haven’t had that issue with the Holosun 407K thankfully but everyone’s eyes are different.
i just ordered the tlr7 a not the sub for the hellcat pro. do you know if that is the right light. it already came with optics. I did find a holster on amazon for a left hand iwb and tlr7a light and optics. got lucky i geuss or not I havent got it yet
Same light I put on mine. The 7A and the Sub are pretty close to the same. I do like the 7A better though
@@360TacticalSolutions I see a lot of guys using the olight now. There is always something better around the corner man.
Now you can add the 17 round mags !🦾
I actually have 20rd mags now
ruclips.net/video/z24d-kZgJxE/видео.html
I don't see that APEX has flat face triggers for the hellcat pro?
It’s not really flat in the same sense as the flat face trigger for the M&P.
Hey great videos by the way. Really enjoy your channel. I have the threaded barrel and I attached the Strike Industries Quad micro comp and I had no issues at the range. Granted I only shot 115 ball range ammo. It also looks pretty cool on the gun. Let me know if you want me to send a pic of the gun. Keep the content coming and have a blessed day.
Actually yes, I’d love to see how that looks if you want to email me some pictures. I was looking at that one wondering about it. I’m curious how thick the comp is compared to the slide and what your thoughts on its performance are. I mean that’s a $70 comp lol. I hope you are seeing some drastic changes
@@360TacticalSolutions I have only shot with the comp once. Need to get some more range time. Now I will say recoil mitigation didn't seem to be hugely noticeable but the recoil did seem to bit a tamer. But I feel you on the $70.00. Little steep. So send me your email and I will send you some pics. Love the channel. Be blessed.
@@jasonstephens2923 yes you can reach me at 360TacticalSolutions@gmail.com
What's the name of your "other" channel, how do I find it? Your content is awesome and I don't want to miss anything...
I just realized I don’t have links in my description to it. 360TsShorts is the channel
youtube.com/@360tsshorts
Wouldn’t the m & p performance center thin enough to compare it with the hellcat.
The Shield Plus Performance Center model? Yes thats as close as we can get to making a comparison with S&W and the HCP.
The Shield is slightly thicker than the HCP. So the HCP wins there.
The Shield comes with a 10 and 13rd mag where as the HCP comes with 15rd mags so the HCP wins there.
The Shield 13rd mags have the grip extensions which allow you to get a full grip which is great but you have to break your grip to do a mag change where as the HCP just has a full grip all the time.
The Shield has no accessory rail where as the HCP comes standard with an accessory rail for lights...gotta id what you aim at
The Shield has a model that is optic ready maybe? The one listed in the Performance Center doesn't. The HCP only comes in an optic ready model.
The only thing that gives the Shield a win is the barrel length is 4" vs the HCP which has the 3.7" but the argument can be made that the HCP now comes in a threaded version that has a 4" threaded barrel so in the end there really is no advantage to the S&W, not even in pricing. Believe me I wish they made a slim line M&P that was just the 4" M&P shrunk down to a 1" thick package like the HCP. If S&W did that id never pick my HCP up again
I'd like to see a comp on the pro. Seems like a great platform for it. Some of those micro comps might fit a holster too. Thanks for the video.
I’m in the process hooking up my Hellcat Pro for concealed carry. After the trigger kit, dot and light if I like it as much as I hope, I might consider barrel and slide porting job from Monsoon Tactical. More expensive that a threaded barrel comp, but like the idea not making the gun any longer.
I’ve heard some good and some really bad about Monsoon. Enough that I won’t send my guns to them
I’ve tried a couple comps so far. Waiting for another one that should be arriving next week. I’m trying to convince Floyd’s Customs that they need to start porting the HCP. They do incredible work
@@360TacticalSolutions Oh yeah, I’m well aware of Floyd’s and their extremely high quality of work. I have a 5” M&P that will be getting one of their slide packages and porting hopefully soon, as well as mag well and extensions. Haven’t had any personal experience with Monsoon yet, but really liked Roger at QVO Tactical’s video of his Hellcat Pro that he had then do the porting.
@@mi_cheap_guns2925 I don't know Roger but I know QVO is a great company making great products. I also feel like Roger is on a close friendly basis with the owner at Monsoon which makes me cautious about his review. I feel extra cautious when I get emails from my viewers telling me how 6months after their port job was supposed to be done, countless emails not being returned or calls answered...what they got in the mail was their slide ported with a hairline crack and then told they must have broken it because it wasn't that way when it was shipped out. Basically go F yourself we arent fixing our mistake. Thats not the only instance ive had reported to me either. 3 different people have sent me horror stories. I have no doubt that QVO gets the best possible customer service and quality of job but if im a hard working Joe sending my gun in, im not sending it to Monsoon till they have the same reputation for quality as Floyds does. Thats just me though
From what I've heard, if you're going with a non-pro Hellcat, you're going to need either a slotted barrel/slide, a compensator, or an upgraded recoil system.
Also... A better trigger assembly. Hellcat Triggers are stiff/strong.
If someone’s buying the original Hellcat…all hope is lost lol. Seriously though, the smaller Hellcat doesn’t have any advantage over the pro, it only has disadvantages. Yes you can port it or put a comp on it to bring it to the performance of a Pro but why wouldn’t you just buy a pro. At least if you put those upgrades in a pro you get some real improvements
why didn't you buy the threaded barrel from SA ?
I bought the Apex barrel because they are some of the best quality barrels in the market. Also at the the Springfield didn’t have a threaded version for the HCP.
is that a compensator you have on it?
I have two of these guns in various configurations. One does have a comp and threaded barrel as well as a secondary barrel that’s ported. My other HCP is also ported but differently than the other one
A slim version of the Walther PDP would be nice too.
Maybe but the chamber design of the PDP creates higher than normal pressures, at least that’s Walthers explanation for the excessive recoil. Sliming that down would potentially make a gun that people won’t want to shoot because of the way it handles
Last weekend I installed the Apex trigger, extended slide lock, mag release and the extended take down lever.
All the upgrades are amazing and the take down lever wow'd me as much as the flat trigger. I think it's great because it give me a little bit more real estate to rest my thumb on it. Very cool.
My issue with the takedown lever is it has a somewhat sharp surface. I want to take it off and smooth it out but I’ve been pretty busy with other projects lately lol
Your thought on Hellcat pro vs Mossberg Mc2c.
I’ll catch hell for this but Mossberg makes a real decent budget friendly gun. I haven’t treated the Mc2c so I really can only go by the numbers for comparison. The mossberg on paper comes real close to the HCP. I’d like to get my hands on one and run it through its paces so I can give a better more comprehensive comparison. Sadly I can only get the 10round mags in WA now so some of the newer guns aren’t easy to do a review on.
@@360TacticalSolutions video would be cool haven’t seen a comparison between the HCP and MC2C yet.🔥
mcarbo or apex trigger more reliable?
Thats a complicated one. I mean with the way the HCP is designed if you install a trigger and dont get the trigger return spring just right there will be times where the trigger wont reset. That can happen no matter what trigger you install. So it’s important to have a pro do the installation or follow the video guide very closely that Apex has posted on their site. As far as overall reliability goes they both seem reliable. I have a lot more rounds through the Apex then the MCarbo but never had an issue with either. As a general rule I trust Apex more than I do any other trigger. That trust comes from their time in the industry being leaders in aftermarket triggers. I trust them because I know their test and certification process. I trust Apex because I personally have somewhere in the neighborhood of 25k rounds through different guns using an Apex trigger and never once have I had an issue related to an Apex product. As far as the Hellcat Pro goes if you havent seen my review on the new Apex Type3 trigger, go take a look at that video. Its my new favorite. If I had a stock HCP and wanted to upgrade id go with that trigger over anything else
Herrington arms' comp is best looking on the market for the hellcat rn dont @ me
You say this on every damn video man. Stop it. It's not true and you look like a fool.
Mag release is different.? Who makes it?
That’s from Apex
alnk.to/9Ib6yGX
I did an Apex video. It’s in my Hellcat Playlist
I saw that holosun makes a green & red laser. Why not do a review on that.
haha lasers are for cats. Seriously though...ive never been big on lasers. The ones you are talking about are very difficult to find a holster to work with it. The other issue is point of aim vs point of impact. Also lasers tend to not stay zeroed very well. They have always been more a gimmick than anything. If I bought one to review the video would come off more as me hating on holosun than doing a review because the micro red dot is so much more advanced than laser tech. Really its just best to get a dot and train that way
Smh…..
Lasers are awesome in theory. On small handguns, I have yet to find one that holds zero and is easy to use/functional.
Not to mention you are essentially walking around with a beam pointing towards your gun in a SD situation.
The viridian green laser holds zero great. It clam shells to the trigger guard and rail. It is daytime bright and they claim 2 miles at night. You can pretty much point out stars with it. It’s borderline illegal bight. I zeroed it and have taken it off a few times and changed batteries and it hold well enough to hip shoot 8’ steel at 25 yards in the daytime. That’s the advantage of a good laser over a optic. You dont have to aim to know where you will hit. Poi vs poa is not much since the dot is roughly the same distance as the iron sights from the bore.
The pros
It’s daytime bright
It’s way faster than iron sights
It holds zero
You can hip shoot or you dont have to aim to see where it will hit
It ties with a optic as far as speed
It’s under $200
The cons.
Good luck finding a holster. Especially if you are a south paw
It can get turned on while holstered and kill the battery
You can get too used to using it and when the battery dies, you cant aim near as accurately
It’s so bright you can see the beam.
You have to take it apart to change batteries
Has about a 8 hour battery life
The holosun eps carry
It will humble you and show you how bad your fundamentals are
You have to practice the basics until you can draw and present consistently
The trick is to move your head if you loose the dot, not move the gun. Moving the gun is what makes the dot streak across and back out of sight.
Just like driving a stick shift, all of a sudden it will just click and you will be able to use it much faster than iron sights
It has a solar failsafe if the battery died
It has shake awake so you never have to turn it on or off
It has 3 reticle options dot, circle. Circle dot
50,000 hour battery life
It has a totally enclosed emitter
It’s made for every day ccw use
It has a auto adjust brightness mode. Uses the solar panel to adjust the brightness so it doesn’t blind you in dark and gets brighter in daylight so you can see it.
The. Con
is the screw positions are in different holes than the optic plate is and the right screw will bottom out on a spring in the slide . I think its like 8mm long or something. I filed a screw down to make it run.
The iron sights can barely be seen in the bottom of the optic. The hero cats front sight is awesome and id like to absolute co-witness so i could use it.
You still cant hardly find the eps carry. ❤
do you happen to have an optic plate for your red dot sight?
Yes im using a plates system from C&H Precision.
would you happen to know if that specific plate would work on my shield smsc?
@@quagmire5268 no idea. You can always reach out to C&H and they can advise you on the correct plate for your project
sounds good appreciate it
A DPM Recoil Management System on that Hellcat Pro would be a great upgrade.
Hellcat Pro - DPM Recoil Reduction
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It’s working out alright. Actually if you watch my more recent video on the Strike Industries comp, that’s where the DPM spring really shines. I have it in my ported Hellcat Pro right now and I can definitely tell the difference when I’m using the DPM spring vs stock spring
Just an update. Got my apex threaded barrel today. I went with the Volker MK2 comp for it. Install was easy. Will be running it this weekend. Looks great so far and no ports pointing down like some of them. Also put in that extended mag release last week. It's an whole new gun
Where did you find the mk2?
And now they make a Pro with a threaded barrel and a17 round capacity.
Do you plan on putting the apex extended slide release on once they release them?
Of course. And when they do release it I’ll do a side by side comparison with the Lakeline LLC slide release. I can tell you though this lakeline one is impressive and it’s good to support small 2A businesses whenever we can
@@360TacticalSolutions love supporting all small businesses but I just love Scott at apex so much 😭 he’s so helpful but I will definitely look into this one as well
@@360TacticalSolutions I love your videos and really think you should buy some Hellcat lights and do some holster reviews with them
I get it though it’s money and you don’t have a unlimited amount but I do know a lot of us carry lights on our hcat pros
@@Bcaloudas I keep going back and fourth on what light I want to put on the Hellcat Pro. I just bought a new 10mm as well as the M&P Metal Competitor so there was a bit of money there lol. Somewhere in the near future, before spring I plan on adding a light and ordering a new holster. Probably going to stick with Streamlight. There is another big HCP video coming soon though. Make sure to watch my second channel 360TSshorts for sneak peeks. I think there's a link in the description
@@360TacticalSolutions running a tlr7sub on my pro it just works man
Light sticks out maybe a 1/4” more than the barrel with the correct key
The only thing I don’t like about my copy is that a fully loaded magazine is difficult to seat/inserted in place. You have to be very deliberate with insertion and check to make sure it’s fully inserted.
At first mine had a hell of a time getting the last round in the mag. The spring seems to have relaxed a bit since I first got it. I imagine with a bit of time yours should be easier to lock in on a closed slide
Darell I bought one for myself and my wife.
Both of ours don't seat a magazine easily either since the springs are so new and stiff. We've loaded several to 15 rounds and leave them like that which has made some difference until we shoot them both alot more. Don't let the mag insertion deter you . They'll ease up some.
Same problem at first. Best way to load the mag, but the gun in slide lock first. Seats everytime.
I’m having the same problem and honestly just assumed it was only happening to me. Did you find a way to fix this?
@@javaree_2869 new mags...they just need broken in. Try loading them with 14 rounds for a while till they break in. That or just shoot the crap out of them till they get smooth
Ditto your comments on the Lakeline slide release. It’s a huge upgrade! Same for the Apex trigger.
It’s all good stuff
Is it possible to use the frame of the regular hellcat on the pro version
I can’t say 100% but I would guess it would be possible. I just don’t think you would be adding any value or advantage by doing that. You would be better off just using the Hellcat Pro. The shorter grip on the smaller frame makes for less control over the gun. Sure you have pinky extensions you can use but doing mag changes breaks your grip and the shorter grip really doesn’t give you much more concealment. The thickness of the gun is why it conceals so well. Buy the HCP and just use that. It’s a much better option
@@360TacticalSolutions I would only want the longer grip when I feel necessary...... I like the flexibility of the smaller slide, to be able to conceal and still be able to extend when ever I please while having the control and recoil mitigation of the longer slide
@@360TacticalSolutions I know....... the extended mag would compensate for te length when needed but you can't do the opposite with the pro when concealment is priority
Reportedly, the regular Hellcats are very snappy, requiring some extra recoil management... and possibly a better trigger.
You need to get the M.carbo striker sleeve kit if your going to carry the hellcat everyday . More reliability. Your welcome brother
A lot of people suggest the M Carbo sleeve for various guns. My current round count on the HCP is 3500 rounds. Not sure how much more reliable it could get. I feel like…sure it couldnt hurt but its also hard to justify and prove that the sleeve its self is adding to reliability
I beg to differ sir , you’re replacing a plastic sleeve for a stainless sleeve you don’t want that plastic to break on you when you need it the most due to wear and tear . I feel a lot better with mine so to each his own my friend
What are the 5 holsters you have for the Pro ?
I have
McKinatec Talon holster
Phlster Enigma Express
g-Code Phenom - all 3 models
I also have a We The People but that thing is trash
@360 Tactical Solutions I have both the G code Phenom Stealth and the Mckinatec Talon bought thanks to your reviews. They both need a wedge imo. I also have a Tulster owb Contour which is great and a Tulster Oath which is ok. I just got the Philster wedge kit which I think can improve them. Especially the Talon which I actually think is my best iwb for the Pro
@@KFGHQ I was a bit let down by the Phlster wedge kit. I have one of them mounted to the Phenom Stealth holster and a custom wedge made from a $6 yoga block on my Talon holster. I find the yoga block to be the best option because you can really make a custom wedge out of it. I feel like the more weight I gain the more I need a wedge. I really need to get back in the gym lol
Yeah I've never used a wedge before. I also really need to get back into the Gym again my friend. Thanks for the good info!
how about the werx?
Can I do say 35 round clip in this gun
There is a 50 round drum mag for the Hellcat that will work in the Hellcat Pro
Good info. By the way...I don't think you really meant "a literal crap ton" since that is not a real unit of measure so it can't be literal.
😂
Apex just dropped a slide release also yesterday.
lol I got the pre release email. Im sure it's an awesome upgrade. Ive got my slide off being ported right now as well as I'm testing the DPM recoil spring. I may check the Apex after all that
@@360TacticalSolutions I'd be interested to hear what you think between the two. Apex is about 15-20 bucks more I believe
@@lexmak87 Ill probably order it soon and put it on one of my HCP and do a side by side comparison
@@360TacticalSolutions Great looking forward to that!
@@360TacticalSolutions ever get the apex lever?
I put the apex trigger, extended mag release, , a momento mori rear slide plate, +4 extension on 1 mag to make 19+1 with two 15rd for better ccw and gun grips skate tape with the hellcat head logo everything accented black and red With the eps carry on top. Would like to try the recoil spring.
Ive become a fan of the Croatian springfield line.
Have the xdm, xdm elite osp (my fav) the xdm elite precision, hellcat pro. And a hellion…. And a saint AR10
Ive never liked the Springfield products. Shot a bunch over the years and they just never did it for me. This Hellcat Pro though is the best thing on the market for CCW
@@360TacticalSolutions I bought a glock 21 when I turned 21. Idk what gen it was but the mags didn’t have the steel insert yet. Was in the 90’s put a internal guide rod laser on it. Carried it for a decade then went to a xdm .40.
The way the sights line up for me is natural with the xdm line.
The glock hump makes me hit low.
The hellcat being basically a 15rd 9mm but .380 size was my reason for getting it. I can’t carry a full-size without being obvious.
We have 100+ degree summers here.
Tshirt and shorts is all the concealment you get from now till about November.
I like the eps on the pro, but I really love that front sight.
I wish I could use it. If the rear was tritium, I’d probably take the optic off.
The elite precision is shooter right out of the box. Adjustable rear and they cut cut a window from the top of the slide and added the mass back at the bottom.
It is the easiest pistol in 9mm I’ve shot for controlling muzzle flip. Even the comped osp is behind it. Try one sometime.
I’m trying to work up a lighter load to make the pro a little less snappy.
Looking for around 950 with a 115gr jhp
Gonna chrono them in a day or two to confirm.
I’d like to try the recoil springs as well.
Have you seen those polymer core hp that go over 2,000 fps but only about 14” penetration and less recoil?
Saw sone for $150 per 100.
Reasonable for carry ammo.
herrington arms comp
lol that’s a pretty new product compared to this video release. Unfortunately comps are banned from import in WA now so it’s a bit tricky getting my hands on that one
.....HS PRODUKT did it....not Springfield Armory, they just imported it and renamed it to US
Do you just spend your days copy/pasting this comment on every HCP video on the internet or did you just bless my video with the internets most irrelevant comment of the day?
Best upgrade I made was selling it and picking back up my Glock 19 for edc. I have the new slim fun pretty carry guns I try and i learned my lesson. Glock life
wethepeople holsters works just fine
I’ve seen too much inconsistency with their QC over the last 3 years. Any open ended holster will work with the threaded barrel…I wouldn’t spend my money at we the people though
@@360TacticalSolutions personally theyve been good any better suggestions? I'm looking for a good holster
@@JaviGlocksShorts honestly for what the HCP? or regular?
I have 4 other different holsters(ranging from $50-$130) for mine and i decided to stick with my desantis slim tuk pegasus, was 25 bucks and does everything i need for a holster to do and just so happens to be the cheapest lol
Its probably one of the slimmest, lightest and rentention is pretty damn good for the price. its also RDS friendly
@@JaviGlocksShorts my number 1 go to is McKinatec. I don't earn a commission but they treat my viewers real good. Use 360TS for 15% off. Lead times are over estimated and you tend to get your stuff sooner than expected. But they do a basic charge for a holster. No uncharge for an optic cut, premium kydex or the addition of a light. McKinatec is amazing. ruclips.net/video/q4pzVgeQpl8/видео.html
That Talon is my primary holster for the HCP. The other company I highly recommend is G-Code. They don't have the options McKinatec has but their holsters are phenomenal as well.
Seth rogen ?
Are you saying I sound like Seth Rogen?