Hellcat Pro - Full Review
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2022
- Does Springfield's Hellcat Pro have what it takes to push my Floyd's Custom M&P out of the top spot in my conceal carry rotation? Today's video is going to be a bit longer than we usually do around here but for good reason...there is a lot to talk about with the Hellcat Pro, especially with the Holosun 407K.
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This was a phenomenal review ! Love how raw you keep it ! Thank you for helping me make up my mind.
I appreciate it. Glad I could help
I really love my hellcat pro. 15 round in magazine +1in chamber, accurate in shooting. Awesome to protect your family and friends.
My platypus is on my hip right now as most days and my hellcat is in my carry truck bag. And I’m with you brother retired nyc firefighter 911 survived 60 years old and have had more surgeries than most people have fingers !!! Busted up bro so I’m right with you on all points !!! Love the video bro GOD BLESS YOU ON THIS MEMORIAL DAY!!! All gave some ,some gave ALL!!!
Oh man the Platypus is on my list. I need one in a bad way. It will probably be an end of summer purchase for me.
I’ve been a Springfield fan for years and even I’m surprised by the hellcat pro. I have big hands and it still fits me. Best of all it’s a great shooter. I really like the irons too. Glad to have picked it up before July 1st.
Haha ya I got mine in June. I should have gotten two of them. To add insult to injury PSA had a special on them last week with 3 extra mags for what I paid for mine. Oh well cant be too salty over it, at least I got one before the WA mag ban
I also get back pain when I carry certain firearms appendix. Which is mainly why I switched to a micro 9mm but I just don’t truly feel protected (not enough gun) so I have been looking into getting a hellcat pro and your videos have been very helpful and the most honest in my opinion. Thank you for the review
I really appreciate it. My channel could be 700k subs if I focused on theatrics and saying what manufacturers want me to say. I prefer to just be real about things and give viewers the information they want
Enjoy the honest reviews you bring to the table, been looking at the Hellcat Pro to replace my Glock 43x. I just like the OEM capacity of the Pro compared to the G43x with needing an aftermarket mag to reach 15 +1. The 407k appears to co-witness well with the OEM sights on the Pro which is good because I really like the sights on the Springfield and that would be a bonus. Nice review.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
I agree with you 100%.
I shot other good guns, but the Hellcat Pro has the best of other guns in one 1 gun. I love the U shaped site.
Every time I shoot this gun I fall more in love with it lol
Thank you for this video its helped a ton love the Chanel
I got a lot more in my HCP playlist. Great gun
Awesome review and information. Subbed. 👍
Thank you. Glad to have ya
I can relate to the untreated injuries, leg, hip, back. This maybe the perfect pistol for c&c for me. Thanks for the review
It sucks when it all starts adding up and the aches and pains start coming on. Id seriously try out the Hellcat Pro if I were you. I love my 4" M&P but the Hellcat pro is just an incredible carry pistol and it doesn't fatigue me the way other guns do
Was waiting on this
I really appreciate the patience. I started the review and then scrapped the whole thing because I felt like I needed another couple hundred rounds through it first. After the last range trip I had my mind made up about the Hellcat Pro and got the review recorded
Thank you so so much. I fell in love with the hellcat pro. I had many youtube give neg reviews. I also had those who are paided to give a review. I wanted someone who unbiased opinion.
Hey thanks for the comment. I think a lot of content creators dont want to upset companies so they go easy on them in their reviews. Thats not me lol. I just tell it like I see it. I have done reviews where I was given discounts, free products or any time you click my links and buy something I earn a commission…but I earn all that through brutal honesty. Id rather have my viewers trust than free shit from a company that doesnt want me being honest
I have the OG hellcat. Had it for 4 years now. I have about 2k rounds without a malfunction with an apex trigger and a reduced power plunger spring. It’s been a great gun. The sights and the grip/texture is by far the best in the micro class. I also have a p365 as well fyi.
This was me when I switched from my 365xl to this. Didn’t want to believe it but here I am carrying it and modding to get the sight I want. At this point I’ve switched from others influence and personally I’m not as accurate but I’ve only shot irons with it and it’s been a while since I’ve used irons so let’s see how I like it after the holosun gets mounted. Also don’t hyve have a +3 now?
Foe years I never considered a Springfield...until I got a Hellcat Pro. It rivals my Sig P365XL for favorite EDC carry. I recently bought a n XDM Elite 3.8" Compact in 10mm for backwoods carry and I am just as impressed. Both have been 100% reliable with all types of ammo. The XDM has a fiber optic front sight while the Hellcat has tritium. While they are not optimal for longer distances or bullseye shooting, these old eyes have found this system to be the best I ever used for fast acquisition. I guess I am a Springfield convert.
I definitely agree the Hellcat Pro is in a whole new class all to its self. Great gun. So far I haven't had any issues with it and im at right about 500 rounds through it. Depending on how my weekend goes I might make it to 1000 rounds on the Hellcat by then
Does one conceal better than the other? I know they're pretty close in size but the ends of the handles are a little different on each.
@@801tb They are virtually the same size and although each has a height listed at 4.8", that measurement on the Sig is at the front of the backstrap. The rear actually slants up about 3/16". I suppose the Sig may be very slightly easier to conceal for that reason. The Sig's grip is "rounder" vs. the slightly boxier grip of the Hellcat Pro. That being said, I find the Hellcat fits my hand slightly better and is somewhat easier to grasp in drawing from appendix carry. I have relatively broad hands but short fingers and have no issue with the grip of either gun. I can see how someone with very large hands (and long fingers) like Mike would prefer the Hellcat Pro vs. the P365XL. I can't imagine too many people having an issue with the Hellcat Pro's grip. Both are great guns and I suggest anyone interested in either to handle and preferably test fire each.
@@Sirgromulus thanks for the reply. I'm someone with small hands but I'd like to handle both. I wasn't sure if there was really any practical difference in the ability to conceal. Thanks for sharing.
@@801tb Good luck on your search!
Great review. It’s a great gun.
Im seriously loving it. Ive got a couple videos coming about holster choices for the Hellcat Pro. This gun really exceeds what my expectations for it were
Coming from carrying a G19Gen4. This Hellcat Pro feels WAY better in every way!!
Oh thats a HUGE difference. G19 is like a brick compared to the HCP. The 1” profile of the HCP makes it so easy to carry. People try and get the shortest barrel and grip length guns to help with concealment but none of that matters. It’s the guns thickness that really determines comfort and concealment.
The more I train with my HCP the more I like it. I was looking at either a X Macro (none comp), P365XL, G43X, and HCP. To me the HCP is a mix of the X Macro and G43X. Perfect fit in hand. I think it’s cool that the X macro has 17(+1) but I thought it would be more difficult to conceal, for me. HCP feels like I’ve known it. 👌🏼 all I need now is an optic and I’m good.
@@StrongBull417 glad to hear it. There are a lot of options out there for optics. Definitely do some homework first. Me, 407k all the way. I love the 6MOA dot
I just bought one from a friend who needed some money to fix a boat. I never wanted anything but a glock because I’m in law enforcement and that’s all we shoot so it’s what I’m used to and trust. I only bought the hellcat pro because I wanted to help my friend out. I just shot it and I might be swapping it out with my glock 43x for edc. The only thing I didn’t like is the trigger but it’s not much different than my Glock. It fits better in my hand and the sights are better. Never thought I would like a hellcat and actually talked someone out of buying one before!
It's funny how that works. I honestly wasn't sure how I was going to feel about it either. After a couple range trips it grew on me really fast. It's been just over two years and I love it more and more every time I shoot it. The aftermarket support just keeps growing and the following for this gun has become massive. I would highly recommend taking a look at the Apex Type3 trigger. It makes a huge difference. I have a ton of HCP videos in my HCP playlist including some videos on the Apex upgrades. If you are interested in a better trigger that can be trusted for reliability...Apex is the way...and if you use 360TS at checkout you can get a price break as well.
@@360TacticalSolutions awesome! Thank you, I will definitely check it out. I also want to figure out what kind of optic to put on it that can still co-witness with the sights. My 43x has a trijicon rmrcc with an adapter plate that makes it so high I can’t seem to find suppressor height sights to work with it. I don’t know much about optics because I’m new to them but I figured I’d try a holosun or something on this one as long as I don’t run into the same problem as the 43x
@@brightbkh07 Holosun 407K, 507K or EPS Carry are going to be the right size but will require an adapter plate. Adapter plates are less than the thickness of a credit card but will reduce cowitness. Most of the direct mount red dots arent going to be something I would trust my life with. The 407K on the other hand, Ive abused it and I trust it as much as I would an RMR. Cowitness on the HCP isnt great but honestly I’m ok with that. I go to the range and shoot a couple mags, remove the battery and do a few drills drawing and firing. I find that with my live fire and dry fire my muscle memory has tuned in enough I can point shoot with a more than acceptable level of accuracy. As far as how much of my irons I can see, I can see enough that if I really do need to use the iron sights I can make do. Statistically speaking, most people arent really going to use their sites when they need their gun anyways, its going to be a point and shoot kind of day
@@360TacticalSolutions ok thank you very much for the info. I keep finding conflicting stuff online so I’m glad you told me this. Yeah I’m fine with not having it perfectly co-witnessing. I just can’t see my irons at all on my 43x. Not even a little bit. I was taught that in an emergency to cant my gun and aim down the slide at the top right edge. In all the training that we do at work I have definitely learned that in a shtf scenario I don’t even look at my sights and just go off of instincts and point shooting. I greatly appreciate the info man! I’ll definitely be watching more of your videos!
I just subscribed to the channel because the way you deliver info is so clear and spot on. If you don’t mind can you post link for the exact apex trigger to get for the regular hellcat
Sure thing.
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Also you can use 360TS as your promo code and save a little bit. For the “style” I would recommend the Type3. It’s a bit more streamline, looks better and feels a little better on the finger.
@@360TacticalSolutionsawesome thanks so much. I’ll tell all my friends to sub to you believe that!!!!
Leaning towards the Hellcat Pro over the Glock 43x. Great video! 👍
HCP is a great choice. I cant think of a single reason to go 43X over Hellcat Pro
@@360TacticalSolutions Thank you for your response 💪
Thanks!
Thank you
I totally agree with you calling the Hell Cat Pro a Plattapus! It's a weird gun, it's a lil snappy but good ! As far as carrying it's a Dream compared to my good ole steel CZ-75 compact! I love the CZ but it's like carrying a Boat Anchor !!!
I have a baby eagle that was my first pistol. Love that gun. I believe it's basically a clone of the CZ75. Boat anchor is putting it lightly. The Hellcat Pro is an absolute dream to carry compared to some of the other guns I own
echoing this! i just bought the hellcat pro today. looking for holsters now, but I currently carry a CZ-P01 and cant wait to switch
I wanted my P01 omega with the red dot slide cut but yeah it’s still heavier than the modern polymer guns.1st time to have red dot gun on a Pro.Big difference goup shots tighter than my iron sights Omega,even though I have CGW upgrades on it.Thanks
I got the Hellcat Pro about a week after it was released. I’ve been patiently waiting on Apex to release a trigger… I hate the trigger but for the meantime, it’ll work when I need it.
I went to the range Saturday. Maybe 300 rounds through the thing and I have a raw spot on my finger from that trigger. Ya it will work when I need it to...but come on Apex im feeling like some kinda hobo here using a stock trigger
I had the hellcat, and I have wide hands and it was a great gun just the grip was short even with the extension. I sold it and bought the hellcat pro and man this things just melts into my hands, the grip for me, idk its literally enjoyable just to hold it. it feels so good, the texture is spot on, the shape of the grip is some kind of freaking voodoo, cant be explained. This is by far my favorite EDC and mine is stock as hell. I would say the only thing that could be better is the trigger. pretty heavy around 6 lbs, but im throwing in an Apex trigger in a few weeks. cant wait! subbed as well
a light trigger in a self defense trigger is not always a good thing , smooth is more relevant than light
I’m on the fence on replacing a stock trigger on a carry pistol just based off how Massad Ayoobs said prosecuting attorneys will try and twist that to make you look bad.
@@TheBandit59 its still a 5 1/2 lb trigger, so its deff not super light, but so much smoother.
@@Painfulwhale360 its all in how sometime is acted out not if you changed out a trigger or not. I get what your saying too though but thats something very tiny being over shadowed by if it was self defense or not.
You should try the 13 rnd base plates from the original hellcat on the pro. Pops right on and takes the capacity to 17+1. Functions flawlessly and it is technically a oem part.
Ill have to take a look. Really I just need a few more rounds in my backup mag. My primary being 15 rounds is good with me
It works with the 15 round spring?
Hmm this is interesting 🤔
Does it work with the 15 round mag spring?
@@carlosrivera8996 yes
Springfield just released new magazines for this bad boy 17+ 1. I will be buying one for myself as a Christmas present this year. Also, Springfield is currently offering a promotion of extra magazines with the purchase of this gun and several of its companion weapons.
Yes I ordered the new 17rd HCP mag but because of my states rules it will have to take the long rout to be delivered. Are you familiar with Bruce Willis’s watch in Pulp Fiction?
And after a quick check, Apex does have a trigger for the Hellcat Pro!
Super old video kind of lol. Also 360TS for a promo code at Apex
@@360TacticalSolutions just found your channel and subscribed! I was looking at the Glock 43x and the Hellcat Pro w/Holosun and after your videos I’m leaning towards the Hellcat. (But I’m going to scrub through your newer videos and see if there is anything else I need to know!)
Keep up the good work!
I have both the M&P 9 2.0 4 inch and the Hellcat pro and love them both. I also think Glock is overrated. Subscribed! To fix the lower back pain when you carry the M&P is to wear a second one on the opposite side.3 & 9 o'clock...At least that is the excuse I gave my wife so I could buy another.
Yes...you know that sounds like great advice. I know a guy who's a chiropractor. I wonder if he can write me a prescription for a second M&P
Is there a grip for the p365XL that feels like the hellcat? The finger grooves on the front are SO GOOD
I doubt it. Better off just buying the Hellcat Pro lol
I put the Talon sandpaper grips on mine. The hellcat pro’s wasn’t quite aggressive enough
Im actually considering ordering a set of those to test out. Im good with the grip texture that's on the gun but I want to try the Talons more for review purposes.
Been going through your hellcat videos again. Do you have one on the Pro Comp (the one with the compensator that comes stock). I’ve seen your video on the different companies that port the hellcat for you. Just curious if you have any reviews or opinions on the stock hellcat pro comp vs the other porting companies. Thanks man!
I dont have a video on that one. Ive been asked a bunch of times but I dont know I’m going to spend the time and money to buy one and test it. The new “comp” version really is just ported…the name is stupid lol. Their design is a complete copy of the Monsoon Tactical port for the HCP so any reviews on that will sum up the new comp version. I have something much better on the way for the HCP but I cant give it away yet. By end of July is my guess.
As far as this new comp version of the HCP goes, I think it’s a good value. It costs pretty much the same as a standard HCP and you retain the factory warranty. On the flip side of that I do think there are better options…even if those options cost a bit more and void the warranty.
@@360TacticalSolutions good to know! You have some good points. I have a hellcat (first generation) and was thinking of getting it ported, or selling it and getting the pro comp.
I’ll check out your monsoon videos! Excited to see what you come up with for the HCP in July. Maybe I’ll wait to make my purchases until you drop the new content.
Thank you for all your hard work.
Apx has the trigger for the hellcat pro now
I also switched from a Smith and Wesson to a Hellcat pro. I'm loving it.
I really hoped that S&W would have seen this gun and been like oh shit we gotta step up our game…but that hasn’t happened yet. Im an M&P guy at heart but im good with carrying the Hellcat Pro
@@360TacticalSolutions agreed 👍
Thanks. I'm not looking for another edc as much as needing a second home protection gun, though this would suffice nicely as either. Can't decide between this & their XD-M Elite... Have you tried it?
The XDM Elite, like the 3.8” 10mm? I haven’t tried it but I wouldn’t buy it for home protection. I have the 4” 10mm M&P and I don’t know that I’d like a much shorter barrel than that….the recoil can get real snappy. Also I’m not a fan of Springfields grip safety. It’s not as smooth as a 1911 grip safety. My other apprehension is 10mm for the house. I use mine for outdoor stuff. Bears and shit. I would worry about over penetration with the 10mm in a home defense situation. That’s just me though. So far this Hellcat Pro is my #1 gun right now and for me that’s saying something
@@360TacticalSolutions Sorry should've specified, didn't realize they make 4 models. No I'm considering the Tactical OSP 4.5" barrel 22+1 rd 9mm.
Totally awesome
I went with Holosun on my Hellcat as well
I’m loving the Holosun
I am not a Glock guy, but I carried a well worked G 43 for years until my daughter got it away from me, now i’m
thinking of something with a bit bigger handle , like the pro
Asking a question explicitly that you alluded to in the video. With the Holosun installed on the plate, you can still cowitness the irons, at least enough to use them as BUISs for the red dot? I had thought the plate raised the base of the red dot high enough to fully block the irons. Is that wrong?
So I can see like 25% of the front sight when I use the iron sights. It’s enough that when my dot lost zero I still managed to put 100+ rounds down range and effectively stay on target. You really don’t need a full view of the iron sights to use them and like I said in the video, the plate doesn’t raise the dot enough to make the iron sights unusable
@@360TacticalSolutions Good. For a BUIS, that's probably enough. The purpose of having the irons is to be available if the red dot goes out.
So can you co-witness completely with the holosun installed? I know the holosun comes u-notched but I’m not a fan. From everything I see online, the adapter plate raises it to much to completely see the oem half circle and front dot. Please let me know!🙏🏼
It’s not going to cowitness the way you want it to. On the bright side…cowitnessing is something people put way more focus into than its worth
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The only optic thats going to give you what you want for cowitness while still using the stock iron sights is going to be the Hex Wasp…which is a steaming pile of crap lol. Springfield was very intentional in their design
Just bought this gun waiting for it to come in trying to alternate between this and the 43x
HCP is a great option. My guess is you will end up carrying the Hellcat Pro more than the glock
Just curious...what do you think of the p365 variants? Not much of a Sig fan?
They have never really put anything out that made me stop feel I had to take a closer look. People always point out this Sig or that Sig and I go look up the specs but they never really measure up. The one thing I like the idea of is the modular chassis system but now that Springfield is making the Echelon it would take a lot to get me to buy a Sig. Also just for reference im not even a Springfield guy…I actually dont like them as a whole. The HCP is the first one that I’ve liked. I think if the Sig line was maybe 25% cheaper I might have some interest but at their prices I just dont see it. I may buy an XMacro just to do a comparison but if I do that I wont have it for more than a month before I sell it
I love the Apex triggers as well, but I always get concerned about EDC. It seems like most recommend only carrying with stock triggers.
Its all about personal preference and comfort. If you have concerns then keep it stock. If you do make the change then train train train. You want to known that trigger like it were an extension of your own body. For a EDC the only company I trust is Apex
@@360TacticalSolutions This happened to me too after I shot 200 rounds in one session to break it in... glad it wasn't just me.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I've never had a red dot on a weapon before, but am going to buy a holosun 407k for my glock 43x. Anyway, for us newbies can you tell me about aiming with a red dot do you use one eye or do you keep both eyes open??? Sorry for the dumb question. Thanks in advance.
Not at all a stupid question. What's stupid is being inexperienced and not looking for advice or guidance from people who have experience. Micro red dots like the 407K aren't magnified. When you use them you want to keep both eyes open and focused on your target. With both eyes open, focussed on the target you then want to move the red dot into your field of view so the dot is on the target. I'll be doing some for beginners type content on my second channel and this is a topic I'll be covering.
Best thing to do is dry fire practice once you have it installed. Get a lot of dry fire in so you can start training yourself to not search for the dot. It can be fairly frustrating at first because you can't find the dot or it moves all over. The dot moving is nothing more than an exaggeration of your movements. Iron sights do the same but because of the way your eyes focus when using irons you don't notice it as much as a red dot. Be patient with it. Lots of dry fire practice before you go live fire with it. Most importantly don't hesitate to ask questions of people who have the experience
@@360TacticalSolutions Thank you brother. I will follow you’re advice for sure. I’m going to sub your channel for more great content. Thanks again.
I bought one of these last week because it was a really good price. I haven’t shot it yet, but I have shot the original Hellcat. There are definitely things I like better on my Glock, like the Glock trigger better, but I love how it’s thinner than my Glock, and holds more rounds. I think an aftermarket trigger would put it past the Glock 26 I have, but that depends on how it shoots.
Take a look at my trigger upgrade video
Apex Edition - Hellcat Pro
ruclips.net/video/HoRAEICY6-k/видео.html
@@360TacticalSolutions I’ve seen it, I have that saved on my browser. I wish I could get the $20 spring to reduce the pull like I did for my Glock 17.
I’m going to keep an eye on those though. If I can find a good sale, I’ll probably pick one up.
Great video. Do you have any like "guns 101" type videos? Total n00b trying to learn more
Hey welcome to the channel. Always glad to have some people new to firearms come in and say hi and look for information. I thought about doing a 101 guide type thing but some of the videos I did in the early days that were more for beginners just didn't do well at all. So many hours worth of time invested and they didn't get watched. I might do a video down the road like things to look for with a conceal carry pistol. What kind of information were you looking for specifically? I may know what direction to point you in at the very least
@@360TacticalSolutions thanks for asking! I'm basically a 2015 era liberal who was anti gun until I actually spoke to people who had guns and realized I didn't know jack. The past few years I've much better understand the role of firearms in our culture, but technically speaking I don't know the first thing about them!
More specifically, I do livestreams on my channel and I was thinking of doing a stream where I present a bunch of the information that I learned to my audience who can be equally as naive in many cases.
360 Tactical Solutions are you aware smith & wesson makes a m&p 2.0 with a 3.6 inch barrel? I'm trying to decide between it and the hellcat pro. Nice review. Thanks
Actually there is a comparison video that im working on the outline for right now. Its been really hard to keep to a recording schedule these last few months. My first piece of advice is to find a rang that has rental guns and test fire both of them before making a final decision. S&W really dropped the ball on that 3.6" M&P. The slide dimensions are only smaller in length, not thickness. The grip is the same way. Its slightly shorter both in its over all length and from its top down to its magwell area. The thickness is no different than the 4" M&P or even the 5". The 3.6 handles really well but it feels like a full size gun in ways that it should feel like a smaller gun. If you want light weight and an extremely thin carry profile then go with the Hellcat Pro. If all you really want is a 3.6" barrel because its .4" shorter than the 4" M&P then you will be happy with it. In my hand, how it conceals and how it handles on the range isn't different enough for me to go for the 3.6 over the 4" M&P. Hellcat Pro is still the winner as far as my needs go
@@360TacticalSolutions Thank you for your reply. I agree. I love the look of the m&p but they should've made it thinner on the 3.6 models. I'm looking for something easier to carry but still feel like a real gun instead of a toy. I've decided to go with the hellcat. Still look forward to your review
I've wanted a , M and P since they came out, now the 2.0 Metal, dammit I need it
And yes I have the 407k on mine lol
Just purchased this as my first one over a Glock 👍🏽
Good choice!
Awesome vid. Did you use the adapter plate for eh Holosun? Can you co witness?
Thanks. I put a link and discount code in the description for the C&H adapter I use. As far as co witnessing goes I can see enough of my irons that if I really need them I can still use them. No it’s not a full view but it works. That being said, my opinion….co witnessing is bullshit and people spend way too much time focusing on it. I trust the Holosun because of my experience with it as well as other peoples hard core testing. If it goes down it’s not a big deal. The vast majority of legit self defense situations where it’s justifiable to use your weapon happen at extremely close range where you are going to need muscle memory 1000x more than you need iron sights or a dot for that matter. I actually take the battery out and do a few reps drawing and firing that way so that I can assure I will be able to quickly draw and fire without the need of sights if need be. A lot of people turn their nose up at using an adapter plate because of cowitnessing and it really doesnt make any sense. Use a dot you trust, keep a fresh battery in it, practice shooting with no sights and you are good to go
thanks a lot for that feeback i appreciate it!@@360TacticalSolutions
Just found you. Love your vids! Just got the Hellcat Pro, and I have to ask, how do you break the slide stop in? I CANNOT depress it if the mag is in. Please tell me that gets easier, otherwise I may have to switch guns, and I really want to give this one a chance because it just feels so good. Thanks!
Hey thanks. I really appreciate it. My channel couldnt grow and exist if it weren’t for viewers getting involved. I had similar concerns with my Hellcat Pro. Day one it was so stiff it almost took two hands to release the slide with the slide stop lever. I dont keep a real good log but in terms of round count im going to estimate im in the 500 round range. At this point its nice and smooth. You can but the snap caps on amazon..the fake bullets, training rounds. Put a couple of those in a mag and just keep working that slide release button over and over. Maybe release it on an empty mag a few dozen times and then do it with the snap caps in the mag a few dozen more times. Once you get it broke in everything about it is smooth…other than the trigger which I just want to replace with an Apex the moment they go on sale lol. Hope that helps. Any help I can be, feel free to reach out.
@@360TacticalSolutions hey! Thanks so much! You read my mind on the snap caps.
Also, I heard you talk a lot about the Apex trigger. I’ve never used one. What do you like about it?
@@crystalc4218 I dont know if you have ever fired a 1911 to know the feeling of their triggers but hte Apex is as close as it gets to that. Using an Apex in a gun changes a lot. The take up for instance, you basically lose most of the take up in the trigger. After you fire the reset distance is minimal. The pull weights are also adjustable on the apex so if you want a lighter or heavier trigger you can change that. They feel smooth when you operate them. There’s no gritty or chunky type feeling. Really using an Apex is an experience I think most people need to try in order to understand but be careful because once you try one nothing else will feel the same
I Liked the original hellcat but didn’t love it. Picked up a pro on a whim since it seemed to fix the things I didn’t like and keep the things I did. It’s a night and day difference between the two. I wonder if SA/HS looked at some of the snappiness complaints and spent extra time tuning the recoil spring/slide weight.
The S&W Shield was horrible...ya I could control it and use it effectively but it wasn't a pleasure to shoot. Im sure really similar to the original Hellcat as far as how it performed. This pro seriously feels like shooting my 4" M&P its incredible
@@360TacticalSolutions which generation Shield? My M2.0 is decent. But if the HC Pro is that much better, I gotta know!
@@shuumai both. I’ve always been very brand loyal to S&W and neither the 1.0 or 2.0 compare to the Hellcat Pro
@@360TacticalSolutions sounds good. Price is a little steep, but in line with current prices.
"That's a God damned platypus right there" lol👍
lol true story
Great video! Have you seen the Mako? Any vids coming?
The Mako?
@@360TacticalSolutions Kimber R7 Mako. I liked your review Mike, soo I thought I'd ask ya about it. Thx!
@@arthurwood7525 Ok so I spent my down time today researching it. I would personally 100% pass on it. Kimber is famous for two things and thats quality and a high end price to match. While this one falls in line with the same pricing as the Hellcat Pro, its specs look like its more along the lines of the Hellcat. Its everything I dislike about pistols that size. Inadequate capacity, short barrel that will create too much recoil, grip that my pinkie won't fit on without a mag that has a pinkie extension. These are all reasons I don't like the S&W Shield, the Hellcat and the Glock whatever random number they assign to their pistols that are too small for a human hand lol.
All these guns have their place....just not in my gun safe. I genuinely feel like if you hit a range and rent one that size and you can get groups of 5 shots in a reasonable size group then any one of those guns will work for you. If it feels good, fits your hand and you can get a minimum of 5 rounds in a decent size group while firing somewhat quickly...buy it for sure. To me though there are a dozen of them in that category these days but there is only one Hellcat Pro. For me the advantage of the higher capacity, grip that fits my hand better and a more smooth and manageable recoil under faster fire...thats something that I don't see in any of the other guns on the market.
Bottom line is never buy a gun because of how it feels in the gun store or what some buddy says about what some dude on the internet says about how it performs lol. Always always get some range time behind it. My review, other peoples reviews and opinions should be nothing more than data for you to take in, points you may not have considered while looking into a gun before test firing it. I bought the Shield without having shot it and knew the first mag that I hated it. Everyone on RUclips just raved about it so I figured ok this things going to work for me. It felt good in the hand in the gun store but actually firing it was the worst.
That being said, and a bit long winded...if someone I know happens to pick one up Ill for sure review it but I can already tell It won't be a good review lol. Probably not the response you were looking for but I hope it helps
Great video. It was very informative. I am in the market for a new carry gun. I'd be upgrading from my Shield 1.0, so that's a pretty big jump. I'm really interested in the Hellcat Pro.
I have the shield. Hate it lol. I have he M&P 2.0 and I love it. The Hellcat Pro is to me, the perfect balance between sizes. I just filmed a comparison of the 3.6" M&P and the Hellcat Pro. That video will go up in the next couple weeks. The M&P doesn't even compare to the Hellcat Pro. I love this gun
@@360TacticalSolutions thanks you just convinced me lol. I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'm not a very good shot with my Shield. I can hit the target, but I'm all over the place. I know it's me and not the gun, but it's not that enjoyable to shoot.
@@ryanbales8116 let me ask you, what about it is giving you trouble? Do you feel like the recoil is too snappy? Are you finding issues with how the gun fits your hand? I can tell you that the recoil is a lot more tame with the Hellcat Pro than the Shield, the grip fits my hand better, the sighting system is a 1000% upgrade to the Shield. What I would suggest is to find a shooting range that has a rental program and has the Hellcat Pro to rent. If at all possible always get range time with a gun before buying it. For me the Hellcat Pro has become the perfect conceal carry gun for me
@@360TacticalSolutions good questions. I think it might be a little too snappy. It could also be my trigger squeeze too. I'm hoping I can try the Hellcat Pro and then buy it if I like it. If I don't like it, I figure I'll get most of my money back. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.
@@ryanbales8116 glad to help. My advice there would be if you are going to buy it to test it, do it through PSA because right now they have a deal were you get a bunch of extra mags for free. If you dont like it and need to sell it, its worth more because of the extra mags and you should recoup most of your money
MCarbo has a great trigger setup that works for the pro, with an adjustable pre-travel grub screw in their aluminum shoe. Dropped my pull weight to about 4.5 lbs.
I was thinking of swapping one or two of the springs out to lighten up the pull a bit. Not interested in swapping the trigger itself
@@jaycamacho8179 you can get the spring kit without the trigger shoe as well from MCarbo.
@@jasontrauer oh sweet I’ll check it out!
I installed the trigger and spring kit from MCARBO last week. It is a huge difference. The stock trigger really sucks
@@davelewis4015 lmao yeah honestly its the only gripe i have with the gun. I went to range last week and had a blast though! I shoot it quite well. I dont know why people say its so snappy. Its really not much snappier than a G19 to me. It fits my hand better and has better texture so that helps a lot even though its a bit smaller/lighter.
I saw online that a gun shop was selling hellcat pro with 5 mags and also selling hellcat pro osp with 2 mags for the same price is there a difference??
Between the Pro and the OSP? I believe the OSP is just an optic ready Hellcat that also has a comp installed. Supposed to be decent as far as recoil and how it handles. Im not a fan of its short grip and lower capacity. The Hellcat Pro is the best of both worlds with a higher capacity. Thats the rout I would go is the Hellcat Pro with the spare mags. I was kicking myself because that deal came through just after the mag ban here in WA but at least I got the Hellcat Pro before that happened.
alnk.to/clTnxZ6
That link will take you to the deal with the spare mags. Its a paid link so if you click it and buy anything from the site at all they kick me back a small percentage. Its what keeps things going here. I do know that Springfield is sponsoring those deals and that the deal will be closing soon. Jump on it if you can
What is the exact model number of the holosun u used if u don't mind me asking
I’ll do even better. Here’s a link
alnk.to/5udiStL
Holosun 407k
I carry my hellcat pro all day every day in a hybrid holster without any problems, and most of the time I hardly even notice that I have it on me.
Its a great carry gun
Had a hellcat pro for a year. Put 1000 plus rounds through it. It malfunctioned maybe two or three times. It was a difficult gun to shoot. I sold it for a glock17
Ok I just got the hellcat pro. I don't know if u talked about the jm4 tactical holster but I got one. I want to get a red dot but I don't know where to get a plate for it. I like to know what red dot do u have.
Ok here is a couple links for you. First one is the optic. This ones a paid link so if you click it and buy something my channel makes a buck or two
alnk.to/1XSYSxh
Next is the link to the adapter plate. This ones not a paid link but these guys make great stuff, I think you have seen my video about the adapter plate.
chpws.com/product/springfield-hellcat-to-holosun-407k-507k-adapter-plate/
This plate will only work with the optic from the first link the Holosun 407k. My advice would be to buy both at the same time and then take them to a gun shop and just pay them to do the install if you dont have the experience. Most places dont charge much for it
I bought a holster off of Amazon for 30$ and it works great. Came with a claw too
Where can I find it with the red dot pre-installed? I seen them advertised with the red dot but haven’t a hard time finding one. Thanks a lot
Most of those are sold out. You are better off buying it and then having an optic installed. That Hex Wasp they put on the gun is straight trash. Here’s a deal though
alnk.to/44RKanl
Hellcat Pro with a total of 5 mags for the price of a standard Hellcat Pro package. Those spare mags add up real fast
There is a new one that come with the shield sms
I have been in the market to get a EDC gun and it seems like most people recommend p365 or this lately.. or a Glock of course. How would you say this compares with the sig? If you have shot that gun before!
The p365 I believe holds 10 rounds where as the Hellcat Pro holds 15. The Hellcat Pro manages to do this without having to have mag extensions for a place for your pinky finger to go. Size wise it’s really close, of course the Hellcat Pro is slightly larger but it carry’s the same. The huge difference is how these guns handle. The Sig is considerably shorter and has a very snappy recoil feeling that I don’t personally like at all. Good luck firing all 10 rounds from its mag quickly and hitting your target all 10 times. The Hellcat Pro handles really well with its 3.7” barrel and I genuinely don’t think anything beats it
@@360TacticalSolutions thank you so much for the reply. Really love your videos and the detail you go into on them. I found a really good deal for the hellcat pro as well using the link you provided in the comments as well. Much appreciated! I will be using your video for the red dot as well I am sure haha. Have a good day!!
@@tjcool5541 thanks. Glad to hear it
I agree with u about the 2.0. It's an amazing gun but my go to edc is my plus with handleit grips. Shoot it just as well as the 2.0
For me the shield plus doesn't check off any of the must have boxes. The short barrel and grip don't really do anything for concealment. It carries no different than my HCP which I have a full grip on and a barrel thats a little over 3 1/2 inches. In fact the short grip on the shield plus only allows my pinkie a place to sit when using the 13rd mag (two rounds less than the HCP) which means I have to break my grip during mag changes. Also it's got a 10 and 13 round mag. None of this makes sense. They could have made a 3.6" barrel shield that has a longer grip and flush fit 15rd mags, basically a copy of the specs on the HCP but that would totally eliminate the need for the shield line. Then theres the fact that the shield plus isn't optic ready. I mean theres a version that is, I think...but every HCP is optic ready. So if you want an optic you are set, if not thats cool too. Kind of like the lack of accessory rail on the shield plus. A lot of people use a weapon mounted light, a lot of people don't. It wouldn't have been hard to just make a rail on the frame and then people can have the option for a light if they want. People talk about the Shield Plus Performance Center and how it's the ultimate conceal carry...but even that one misses the mark. Same short grip with a 10 and 13rd mag, no accessory rail. The thing they did right with that one was optic ready, ported and barrel length...but it's still not a comparison to the HCP. Sadly I don't think S&W will ever figure it out and put together a better concealment gun
@360TacticalSolutions I get that I carry with a 13 rd mag I pretty much just use my 10 as a range mag. I have the optic ready version. Idk I had the he'll cat and hated it. Started carrying the plus before the hcp came out but I have so much faith in my plus and shoot it extremely well. Plus i have magguts turning my 13 into 15. I know oem is better but I put over 1k rounds thru before using it as my carry mag. To each their own man but great review. I guess I'm just with my plus because I completely trust it and how I shoot with it.
@@joshuarichford9936 I definitely think there is a lot to person preference. For instance a lot of people swear by the Glock. In my hand it's uncomfortable and I struggle to get good groups with it, the G19 for instance. That doesn't mean it's a shit pile, that just means it isn't suited for my body mechanics and shooting style. On the other hand the 4" M&P 2.0 fits me like a glove, my Shield Plus was the exact opposite and only lasted me a few months before I sold it. People always ask me "what's the best gun for ____" and I always have recommendations that end in me saying make sure to go to a range with a rental program and rent one. Put a couple hundred rounds through it. Just because the HCP feels great in my hand and im accurate with it doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone.
@360TacticalSolutions absolutely agree with the glock lol. I think it's major selling point is reliability but in all reality it's the age of hand guns most of the big names guns are just as reliable. If I could edc my 2.0 I'd definitely be carrying it instead of my plus
@@joshuarichford9936 In the cooler weather I totally EDC the 2.0 but I'll use a G-Code OWB holster. You are right though these days nearly all handguns have that reliability. Just gotta find the one that feels right in your hand and go with it
Where did you buy the plate for the red dot?
That one’s from C&H Precision
Do you know if there are taller U sights?
I don’t believe so. They want you to use their optic the Hex Wasp and it wouldn’t need taller sights for that. Honestly I use a plate and a Holosun and it’s fine. The sights are visible enough I can use them if needed
I Am considering a pistol
the size of a 43x, I was going to get a 365 specter comp, but wasn’t sure it was worth it . I am now between the Hellcat Pro, and a cajun works CZ of similar size, maybe a PCR.Great video
I try and steal clear of anything with a comp for a carry gun just because there is a tendency for carbon and shit to blow through the comp and it usually comes your direction. Ya a comp will help the gun shoot a little flatter but not so much that I find it worth the part where I get peppered with debri in my eyes while im shooting
@@360TacticalSolutions Mike you convinced me a while back, I got the Pro, ordered the Apex toyz, got the C and H plate... My dilemma, the Holosun HE507K x2 or the 407K x2. Thoughts? Red or Grn, 407 over the 507, I've seen your explanations on why you chose the 407K, I just really like the reticle of the 507...
@@MrAndrewmoldenauer its all personal preference. How is your vision? A lot of people with vision problems like green more than red. I prefer the green but Im cheap and refuse to pay an extra $100 for a green dot vs a red. The reticle is up to you. If you like that 32MOA circle with the 2MOA dot then ya go for it. Thats really the only difference between the 407 and the 507. I will say the green stands out better than red on a variety of targets. There are just too many choices lol
@@360TacticalSolutions Thank You for your reply...
There is now a certified Apex trigger for the Hellcat Pro :)
I ordered one first thing this morning. I’m pretty excited
Only $85 too
They should install all the parts on the guns to avoid having to buy all these things
My cz had to replace mag release and slide release. There went $200 Didn't need the apex trigger.
The hellcat may need the apex trigger though
Funny people look at me when like I was crazy when I switch from my modded glock 19 gen 5 for the hellcat pro it just doesn’t make any sense how they do what they did with this gun smh but I love it
Exactly, they got the formula just right with the Hellcat Pro. And its funny because when I grab it out of the safe I see my M&P right next to it and im like....mmmnnn sorry baby but daddy has a new lady in his life lol. Anyone who hasn't fired the Hellcat Pro just wouldn't understand
It’s the exact gun that I’m selling right now to pay for my hellcat on the back end.
I’ve let many people hold it and everyone literally goes either wow or holy shit. There isn’t another gun that I’ve held that fits like it was made for my hands before. The perfect size for edc, mid range capacity without being bulky, trigger isn’t bad and the accuracy was way better than I thought it would be.
Same I have every sub compact and mid size glock made. Some modded some not. I carried the 32 in .357 sig or my 19 most of the time. Got the hellcat pro……. Now I carry it almost all the time. lol. Holosun 507k on top of mine.
So is a good buy or what
Is the Hellcat Pro viable for home defense?
It can be. I would say that whatever gun you want to use for home defense…train with it. Take a defensive pistol course with it. Take it to the range once a week and put 50 rounds through it so you are comfortable and familiar and know how the gun handles and aims. The Hellcat Pro has a 15rd capacity so in that aspect it’s similar to a Glock 19 which a lot of people use for home defense. Like I said though, the gun has to fit you and you have to practice in order for it to be a viable option
Where in WA are you? I used to live in Spokane and Lacey.
Im in Skagit county. Once my kids are out of school im really going to have to rethink where I live though
@@360TacticalSolutions I played JC baseball against SVCC back in the day. Been in Southern Idaho since I retired from the USAF, back in 2011. Come on over to a free state. Lol
Please help me, I want to buy my first and only (law in my country) gun. My only requirement is that it be from the HS-produkt (springfield armory) company...which gun should I choose? The law in my country is such that I am not allowed to carry it with me legally, so if I were to carry it, it would have to be concealed.
Well first I want to say that I would never condone people breaking their local laws…so if you carry it with you concealed that’s at your own risk. That being said I will say the Hellcat Pro conceals very well and handles close to the way a larger gun would. I know that Springfield just released the Echelon which I think will be a great improvement in many ways. That gun gives you the ability to have a fully modular system similar to what Sig has. So you can buy different grip sizes for different uses making the one gun able to actually serve as many guns. If that Echelon is available to you definitely take a close look at it, if not I would pick the Hellcat Pro
I carry a Hellcat pro everyday! 👍
Best daily carry on the market
WA resident here, they wanna defend the police and remove our ability to protect ourselves. Hugely disappointed with this state in the last few years but it's pushed me to become my own protector, seeing the state of of the big city and surrounding cities.
Great job for quitting smoking dude, it has been a tough chore for me 🤘
Always happy to have locals on here. Things have escalated quite a bit over the years here as well as all over the country. I think its definitely best to have that ability to count on yourself rather than crazy response times from local law enforcement. No disrespect to law enforcement but people want to tie their hands from doing their jobs and then good people get hurt in the process.
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I want to buy my first gun. Would the Hellcat Pro be a good first gun?
The Hellcat Pro is a great gun, amazing for conceal carry. My advice about your first gun would be to not take anyones advice as to what to get for your first gun. Find a range that has a rental program as well as does conceal carry training. My local range does a training where they have a dozen different guns that you practice with under the eye of an instructor who also shows you how to use them safely. At the end of it you can look at the selection and say ok these guns don't fit my hand, these guns do fit my hand, here are the ones I was most accurate and comfortable with during the live fire sessions...NOW it's time to pick one to buy. The bottom line is what works for one person may not work for the next person. Testing a gun is the only way to know for sure. These reviews are really just so that you can get more information to take into account when looking into different guns but always always always try and get some range time with a gun before making the purchase
what holster do you like?
Right now im going back and fourth between the G-Code ruclips.net/video/sL243KpNqBE/видео.html
And the Talon by McKinatec
ruclips.net/video/q4pzVgeQpl8/видео.html
The regular Hellcat apex trigger won’t work?
The regular hellcat apex trigger isn't "certified" for use with the hellcat pro. That means Apex hasn't yet done enough testing to be comfortable with the liability of saying that its safe for use on the Hellcat Pro. I have spoke with people that have used the original Hellcat apex on the Pro and they say it works fine. Ill wait till Apex is done with their testing and they say its a safe upgrade. After all...this is my carry gun that is in my waist band daily....pointed at my junk lol
@@360TacticalSolutions gotcha. Just picked up the Hellcat Pro today. It will be one of my carry guns once I put enough rounds through it reliably. I have an apex Hellcat trigger laying around somewhere I think. If I can find it lol. I purchased it with intentions of getting original Hellcat but ended up with a 365 so I was just curious if it would work. Once I hit the range I’ll see how I like the stock trigger.
the hellcat pro hurts my dominant hand where I grip the tang and my thumb. I have tried a few different grips but all seem to hurt at least the palm area of my hand that lines up with the tang...
Does this happen to anyone else? can anyone give me tips?
I dont have that issue. Is it the texture that is hurting your hand? If its too rough then you can always take some fine sand paper like a 600 or 320 grit and smooth it out a little bit
@@360TacticalSolutions Wow thanks for the response even on an old video and actual useful advice... I will give that a try because I do think it is the texture. I am not a huge fan of the sandpaper type grip. It didn't feel too bad holding it but after 200 or so rounds my hand was hurting.
Also, since I was on the fence about subscribing (too many gun channels already) you have earned a subscription.
These are cute guns and all but the Xmacro is just superior.
How so? The one thing it has going for it is the built in comp and after shooting both guns, that comp is cool but doesn't make a huge difference between it and the Hellcat Pro. That means the only differences left are over all thickness which the Hellcat wins by a hair, and the grip length. The Hellcat Pro has a shorter grip length which aids in concealment as does its thinner profile. The two guns are a match with the advantage leaning slightly toward the Hellcat Pro. Thats an objective comparison from someone who is a S&W guy with no brand loyalty to either guns. Saying the Xmacro is superior....ya I just don't see where you are coming from on that at all
My name is Robert and I am not a Smith and Wesson fan 😂😂
I mean…some people are Glock fans…theres something out there for everyone
Am I able to put a HE 508t on there?
No only the K series. 407k, 507k or the EPS Carry.
@@360TacticalSolutions thank you brother 🤙🏽
@@pacorojas8122 glad to help. If you’re buying an optic…hit up Optics Planet and use 360TS to save
@@360TacticalSolutions will do, I just got a hell cat pro, definitely gonna need an optic. I just wanted to making sure there wasn’t a plate I could use to make it work. I love the 508t
I carried a Glock for 20 years but that changed the day I bought my Hellcat and I don’t think I’ll ever go back
There is a lot of hype around a handful of pistols right now but none of them can compare to the Hellcat Pro
@@360TacticalSolutions completely agree
407k or upgrade to 507k?
I don't see the 507K as an upgrade for me personally. Actually I just released a video today that gives a bit of a comparison and why I went 407K
ruclips.net/video/jSw1bP7prZo/видео.html
I bought my first gun today and it was a platypus pro!!! I mean a HELLCAT Pro!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Its a damn fine choice. You are going to love it
@@360TacticalSolutions Thanks broskie!!! Great videos and content!!
Im in 360 too I have no. Weapon guy , buds, I know a metal dude who loves arms. But I only know him eere not friends. Mt Vernon
You couldnt pay me to shoot an m&p lol.
just picked up my hellcat pro.. as an older fat guy ive noticed this is noticeably more comfortable to carry than my 19
Yes exactly and its barrel length is not that much shorter than a Glock19 or M&P so performance wise it's real similar. Let me ask you, what holster are you using and what position are you carrying? I ask because you said "older fat guy" lol. Ive gained quite a few pounds and its caused some issues in comfort with concealment. Im just curious what you are doing carry wise and how its working out for you, one older fat guy to another lol
@@360TacticalSolutions I'm a lefty so I guess I carry at 3 o'clock.. and I just got the hellcat and ordered a holster but I was able to make some adjustments to my we the people 19 holster and make due.. it's not optimal obviously but better than nothing..
That’s a gd platypus lol 😂
Haha damn right
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Man this started out slow...get to it
This channel is definitely not for you. Im slow, methodical, I prefer facts over theatrics. You arent going to see any videos where I test to see how many pounds of butter it takes to stop a 50cal here. People are all looking for different things and connect with different styles of content. Nothing wrong with that. Merry Christmas to you and yours
The u notch sight is as bad as glocks horrible. 2 get rid of all white sights and stupid blade rear sights and just put 3 dot night sights on everything. Hellcat pro is the gun everyone should make in compact slimline. The glock 19 and m&p are just extra thick and it's stupid when they don't have to be
APEX is the bomb
I'll keep my 19 and my 365
Whatever works for you
I’d sell both
Thanks Mike. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
Glad to help
Hey Mike. Just a heads up that I have received a email reply from your channel. The user name is just a text number that they want me to reply too. Checked the video that the reply was from and there is no such reply in the comments. You may want to give your viewers a quick warning about this scam
Yes thank you Jack. I woke up this morning to 75 notifications for comments from that account. Been going through trying to get them all taken care of and it’s been a serious headache. I’ll post about it shortly. Thank you for reaching out. On the bright side I think that’s the point when you’ve made it on RUclips…when the scammers try and clone your account 🤦🏼♂️
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hi man thanks for the review
i am aiming to get my 1st gun for conceal carry
which one you think is better to get
hellcat pro or s&w equalizer the new one ?
thanks again
That’s a tough one. I haven’t shot the equalizer but I can say I don’t like the back strap safety or the short grip. My advice is find a range that has them in their rental program and live fire both guns. For me the Hellcat Pro is the winner. That equalizer would have to be a smooth shooting gun to compare with the HCP
@@360TacticalSolutions thank you so much