SPRINGFIELD ARMORY HELLCAT PRO...IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE IT?
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2022
- In this video, we will be be discussing the SPRINGFIELD ARMORY HELLCAT PRO. We will compare this model to other types of carry guns in similar category to help establish considerations for comfort while carrying. The features will be detailed and we will discuss how these different features might have value to the owner. A brief overview of range performance will be presented along with a summary of the carry experience with regards to holster selection and coverall comfort. In closing. we will present overall impressions of the firearm as a carry option. Thanks for watching!
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I got the pro for 549.00...the gear up package that includes 5 mags...yup 5...and a sweet range bag...thats why I didn't get the macro...for 799...an 2 mags..that go for like 80 freaking dollars a piece...I love sig but went with the smart buy...Airborne out!!
Same
This video, imo, by far is the VERY best I’ve seen online so far regarding the Hellcat Pro and the Hellcat original. Earlier in 2023 I bought the Pro but afterwards I felt I couldn’t hide it well enough for conceal carry…and this was after buying several IWB holsters. So, two months later I bought the Hellcat original as well bc I wanted a more compact 9mm. I can’t ‘feel’ ANY difference between the two when shooting…only weight-wise when carrying of course. But, I ‘do’ conceal carry the Pro occasionally just so it doesn’t feel cooped up in the house! 😂 I even carry 15+1 mags in the original also with no difficulty hiding it under my clothes with the extended length of the magazine. Recently I’ve been looking at Glock (Geez, I’ve become addicted to handguns!)…two of my neighbors (one of which is a retired Harris County Sheriff Captain) are Glock freaks including my landlady (retired Houston Police Dept). And, now ME with two guns! On our property of eight houses I’d say us seniors have this place pretty much protected! Thanks for such an enjoyable, no fluff, no BS, and, ‘to the point’ video! Happy shooting! ~Jim~
With the Hellcat Pro I feel like the gun is part of my hand.
That's how I feel with the P365 X and VP9SK.
i bought the glock 48 planning to carry 15 rounds with S15 mags. however, i had failure to feed issues, stove piping issues, and sometimes mag seating issues. i gave them the benefit of the doubt thinking there was a "break-in" period. after spending 500 rounds later at pandemic costs, the issues did not go away. at that point i figured it was not worth trying to figure out the issue as i might as well buy a new gun with that cost in ammo. currently running with glock factory mags. i'm sure a lot of people are in my position and would like youtube reviewers to do more comparisons with the glock 48/43. the hellcat pro is really the best solution for a glock 48/43 replacement that carries 15 rounds
I’ve heard tons of stories about the shield arms mag making failure to feed issues.
@@bryansutton9942 Thats basically all mag extensions. Maybe a kit with springs but I'm not so sure.
The overrall look, features and performance exceeds the g48. Which lacks all those. Glock is now the apple of pistols. Soon you're gonna pay for just the box for a higher price 😂
The only thing glock could do at this point to be innovative is to sell their pistols for 400 instead of 600
This new offering from Springfield completely trumps the 43x.15 rd flush factory mags and optics ready for those who care about optics
Hellcat Pro has a 3.7” barrel, RDP has 3.8” threaded barrel with comp, and can utilize the 17rd mag with the 15 rd sleeve spacer, the now new threaded Pro released with 4.4” barrel
As always boss, excellent review. 👌
Very good review, thanks !!!
The Glock 43X (and 48) measures 5.04" in grip height while the Hellcat Pro measures 4.8", almost 1/4" of an inch which is often noticeable in IWB carry. Conversely, the Sig P365XL (and 365X) also measures 4.8" in grip height but that is at the inside finger location. The angled grip angle reduces the back length by approximately 1/2". I have both the P365XL and Hellcat Pro and these are my "go-to" carry handguns.
Which do you like better?
I have the Pro and am thinking of picking up a 365 X as well.
@@bradpowell843 That would be a hard choice. If I want to run a red dot, then the Sig is my choice. If I opt for iron sights, the Hellcat would be my pick. While many would pick the Hellcat since its iron sights can cowitness with many optics, I have different criteria. I am picky about my red dots and have settled on Holosun for my handgun and rifle applications. I like the durability, reliability, long battery life, "Shake Awake" technology and battery tray (eliminating the need to remove the optic to change the battery). I especially like green reticles instead of red and the dot/circle reticle of the Holoson 5XX series. The 507K will direct mount on the Sig but would require an aftermarket mounting plate for the Springfield, negating the ability to cowitness with the OEM sights. While the Sig's factory tritium sights may be better for slow fire accuracy and longer range shooting, my old eyes pick up the Hellcat's sights much faster which is an advantage for concealed carry. The Hellcat front sight is about the brightest (day and night) I have seen, short of my Night Fision aftermarket sights. While Sig is slightly softer shooting with a two hand hold, the fuller grip on the Hellcat better facilitates one hand shooting for me. It also makes it slightly easier to get a good purchase when drawing from a holster.
Again, both great choices for most people and if you have the opportunity, I would test fire each one...or at least see which one feels best in your hand.
@@Sirgromulus I’d watch your videos lol
@@Sirgromulus removing the lugs is a much better option (15 mins with minimal tools) is a dramatically better option than using any sort of "plate system" on the original Hellcat. I do not have the Hellcat Pro but imagine the process is the exact same.
I am very picky about my optics as well and this is what I did for my Hellcat.
I am very curious why you don't consider this an option, once you're proficient with a dot, iron sights seem very antiquated.
Where can I find a 48x?😂🤣
I’m tired of people treating shield arms mag like they are some kind of fix all. I’ve seen some major failures with the shield arms mag. They are not always as reliable as a normal Glock magazine
I just subbed. Great content.
I have every subcompact and mid size glock made plus the 43x, 48, 45, 19x……..I carry the hellcat pro all the time. Put a Holosun 407k on it as well.
Aside from the 365XL comparison, I think the Mossberg MC2C is another similar option, and possibly even the Arex Delta M.
Could you give us a comparison of the IWI Masada Slim S 9mm??? Looks like a great concealed carry option!
Thank you for the great information and through Gun reviews! You do an amazing job 🎉
My Glock 43x comes with cheap sights so I changed them .I also bought the 15 mags from shield arms . It’s a good gun. I just got the Hellcat Pro and like it as it comes with Great Sights , a much better grip and Factory 15 mags. Both good guns
Have a hellcat pro. Upgraded from a g2c (which by the way is a great concealed carry option for a budget minded shooter). While it’s a little bigger and slightly uncomfortable, I’ve gotten used to it and the extra capacity gives some piece of mind. And it’s much more fun at the range. Honestly probably the best ccw for the money.
My old lady has a standard Hellcat and I recently picked up the Pro. Decided to shoot them both and compare them. I prefer my pro to hers due to my big hands.
I’ve been carrying my Hellcat Pro for 5 months now. Prior to that, was my Glock 48. The Hellcat Pro feels better on me (appendix) than the G48. Mainly in the grip.
I just got one waiting to pick it up
First I had the G19 gen3, and was looking for something more EDC friendly. So I transitioned to a G48. It was a lot easier to EDC but, I hated the trigger, the plastic sights were hard to sight align for me, the grip lacked, the magazine does not flush fit, and lastly it only had 10 rounds capacity. (I did not trust the shield mag's from all the negative reviews).
Some how in my discontent mind I discovered the Hellcat, more specifically the hellcat pro! This EDC checked off all the wishlist items I did not have in my G48 and G19. Once a Glock fan boy, to a big fan of Springfield!
I would love to have a g43 or g48 with the Shield Arms S15 magazines! And then I did some basic research and realized those S15 mags turn the most reliable pistol into the least reliable. Sure there are plenty of folks that have no issues with them, but there is a shockingly large number that do. Worse yet the shield arms unreliability may "only" manifest as a jam of some sort every 200-300+ rnds. Do your research and decide if that is worth the risk on your defensive pistol...
I jumped on the S15's as soon as they hit and had 4 failures to feed in 300 rounds. The most alarming part was 2 of the malfuntions came within 30 rounds of Federal HST hollow points. I immediately went back to the factory 10 rounders and carried it like that until I received my Hellcat Pro.
@@TheFivepoint1994 same here. had nothing but issues with S15 mags and went back to factory mags. youtube reviewers who've tested shield mags without issues must have gotten hand-picked mags from shield arms. hellcat pro is the way to go in my opinion.
I have a g43x and the new gen stealth arms mags that you can use left handed. I’ve had no problems with mine. Not one misfire. But I don’t have a ton of rounds through them…
Well, I've been carrying a G48 since they came out. But I had to install night sights and I have to use Shield mags for the 15 round capacity. I don't use a dot so it's not that big a deal for me that I have it pre-cut. So I don't know, if I didn't have all of that already, along with my favorite holster company Tulster making a light bearing IWB holster that works perfectly, I would probably be looking to get one of these, since all of the above except for the holster is already there out of the box. Looks like a pretty darn good setup.
I gotthe all black glock 43x it's an awesome pistol I like the hell cat and the sig p365
agree with you except on that cheap sticky holster.
can you do range comparison with the rdp?
Hellcat Pro ( Empty Weight / Without mag ) - 21 ounces
Glock 19 Gen 5 ( Empty Weight / Without mag ) - 21.5 ounces
These are the specs from their respective manufactures. A half ounce difference in weight. It's a very small difference.
I’m in Cali and I just bought one. 10 day is gonna be hell.
I have a sense that glock 43 x with 15 rounds magazines an mossberg mc2sc with 14 round magazines are really close competitors of the hellcat pro. I would choice between them.
They are doing what they all do. Come out with a micro compact, then come out with a larger one. Marketing, which is ok.
Two years ago the micro pistol was the rage ,now getting bigger is the rage ,what’s up with that🤪😜🤪😜
Its the goldilocks zone, I believe
"Bigger", sorta. Compare it to any other sub-4", 15 +1 and try to call it big though
I'm glad to see this comparison I thought about trying the hellcat pro vs my G43X I did install those same exact sights and shield mags have worked perfectly not one problem , however it's a snappy little bastard, witch I guess all small guns are like , my Bigger G45 shoots much better , I wonder if the H.C. is any better with a little longer barrel ?
I have a Pro and 43 X. The Pro has slightly less recoil but not much.
I like the smooth finish in front of the trigger guard of the Glock, but I don't like the Glock's magazine baseplate sticking out unshrouded - I feel that's a snag point. I like the shrouded magazine baseplate of the Springfield, but really don't care for the light rail in front of the trigger guard - I wouldn't mount a light or optics on my carry firearm. The Glock's slide release is small and hard to actuate to me - I would have to change it with the Pyramid lever, plus to use the aftermarket 15 rnd magazine in the Glock you have to change the release button because of wear issues. Springfield is a bit smaller if not a few ounces heavier. I think I'd take the Springfield.
Will this be offered in FDE?
Central Arkansas?? Blytheville AFB 1980-1984.
Do you have and m&p shield plus you can hold up next to it and or a 4” m&p shield plus performance?
I did it in the store, I have put the shield plus with its 13 mag on side of the Hellcat pro and it was by hair the same , the only difference I've seen was the barrel side 3.1 vs 3.7
Try CZ P10 Series.. you will love it
I sell my cz for hellcat..
I bought four Pro's
Hi, what sticky holster specifically did you use for the hellcat pro, appreciate it
I used the MD 4G MOD, which I already had. I eyeballed it and it ended up being a perfect fit.
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel thank you sir
The Hellcat Pro and the 43x are the same in NJ. It’s a 10 round capacity state no matter what hand gun you have for a civilian.
Here in California, we feel your pain😂. Although, we cannot even get the 43x out here…
It’s a lot like the CZ p-10c
Thanks TCCC. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
Excellent review. I am looking for my first conceal/carry and yesterday I held the Pro in my hand. I am down to three. Hellcat Pro, Sig P365xl & (if i can find one) HK VP9 SK. Anyone have any thoughts??
I would find a place which will let me shoot them, and then decide. Hand feeling is a good prediction, but not always. You'll be fine with any one of the 3, so get the best deal on the one you shoot the best. If concealability is a priority, bear in mind that the HK is noticeably thicker of the other 2.
@@sevse23 Thanks!
@@wincav you're most welcome
I had the 365XL, after a year I sold it even with a 3 factory bought magazine. I hated it. The mag release is too flush with the frame and does not have the positive ejection I like. At the change of a magazine I had to pull and strip it out each time. Plus the release button is awkwardly, front facing where I had to change my grip just to push it. God help you in a real defense case where you need to change magazines. I also did not like the x-ray sights…it shot well and I was accurate with it I just didn’t find it a good fit for me. Personally I’d go WITH THE H&K VP9 SK! Can’t find it, ORDER IT!
@@kenna.9368 Thanks for the insight.
Maybe I just got a bad trigger in my Hellcat Pro it was by far the worst trigger I have ever shot much worse than my Glock 43x mos. Put an apex trigger in it and no it’s in my edc rotation. Other than that it has been great much more for the money compared to the 43x
S&W Shield Plus , Glock 43X
Would the holosun 507k fit without buy a mounting plate?
No, it will not. C&H Precision Weapons sells an adapter plate specifically designed to fit the Holosuns 507K and 407K onto the Hellcat. The plate was selling for $45 and it also includes Vibra-Tite and 2 screws to mount the optic. After the install, the stock sights absolutely and positively provide a lower 1/3rd co-witness! I have a Holosun 407K 🟢 on my Hellcat Pro! 😘
@@davidhudson2527 not true, removing the lugs takes less than 15 minutes involving minimal knowledge and minimal tools (cheap bastard file from Home Depot), I did this to my original Hell Cat osp over 2 years ago.
Plates systems for optics are a no go for me, another major point of failure.
Just my opinion.
@@armenchuck Too be fair the Hex Wasp, JP Enterprises JPoint and the Shield RMSc are optics that directly mount to the Hellcat slide. Altering, removing the lugs in the slide limits you to using the Holosun 507K/407K. By using the Holosun adapter plate you can always remove the Holosun and change to several other optics in the future if you don't like the Holosun. 😉
@@davidhudson2527 not true for the 2nd time (get it together) if what you posted above is true, how do the optics you listed (RMS-C footprint) above work on the P365XL? This firearm doesn't have the lugs I am referring to removing as well.
Please have knowledge ,do research or both before offering the wrong information to people on social media.
@@davidhudson2527 PS- if you shoot a lot, tiny screws and adapter plates are the #1 point of breakage and failure with RDS (red dot system), in my opinion. It is not that uncommon to see a RDS unit go flying after a fastener head gets sheared from a reciprocating slide often damaging the RDS. Cross 🤞 my fingers it never happens to me, one if the only more embarrassing things is launching a suppressor down range!
Good luck shooting and I hope to share ammo with you in the future!
The only problem I’ve found so far is availability of holsters.
What about Arex Delta Gen 1 and 2... I'm not saying is better, but is very similar espcs..
Is there a hellcat with manual safety
Talk about capacity. My shitty state only allows 10 rounds.
RDP- Most flexible ccw!
Does helical pro have a safety
shake it lol. Be aware the magazine blocking lever rattles like crazy.
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Only works if you are skinny.
Kinda bullshit someone else copied your channel name
Yes, someone started a channel after mine and chose a very similar name. I figure Karma will sort that out.
Is there anything like it? Yeah a Glock 19
Grips look ugly looks like someone did it themselves at home lol