Choosing the BEST Gun for Conceal Carry
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2023
- Today, John talks about concealed carry pistols, the different kinds and what ones you should carry.
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The best gun is the one you shoot well and conceal well.
*ab workout intensifies*
I'd argue reliability before shoot well. You can learn to shoot a gun better. But if you're really good at shooting an unreliable gun it doesn't mean much.
@@Direwolf1166 I agree, doesn’t do you any good if the gun doesn’t feed etc
@@Fart2Toots i was actually in that situation. I had a shield that had feeding issues and problems with light primer strikes. Loved how it felt in my hand, fun to shoot. But it wasn't reliable. Got a g2c instead and it hasn't malfunctioned yet. Doesn't feel as good in my hand but it goes bang every time.
@Direwolf1166 I've been carrying a shield 9C for years, thousands and thousands of rounds. We have a standing "date night" which is going to the range and throwing 200-500 rounds each, every... single.. week. Ive run everything through it. Reload myself and tried a hundred different powder/coal/projectile weights. I've NEVER. Literally NEVER. not 1 time. ever. Had a problem with that pistol. Never. Literally never. That's insane. It's been dead nuts reliable and why I still carry it to this day even having a handful of other options. 15+3 mag extension and then a 17 rounder with a xgrip on it as a back up. Oh hey!!! I have those Hyve mag extensions🤣
Biggest advice I can give about this, go to a range that offers gun rental. After you’ve narrowed down your options to 3-4 guns go shoot them, see how it actually feels when shooting, if it’s accurate, etc. Should only cost like $50 or less and will save you the pain of trying to sell the gun later after you shoot it and decide it’s not for you.
Lot of people need to hear this!
I wish it was that cheap. Where I live, the only range with rentals has a $30 lane fee, $25 rental fee per pistol, and you have to use the range's ammo at $25 per box (for 9mm!). So if narrow it down to 3-4 guns it's a minimum of $150+. Still cheaper than buying guns to try out, but a far cry from $50.
THIS /\ /\ /\ /\.
I did that for my wife. The range offered a large selection of guns at $20 a claiber, and buy their ammo. After about 250 rounds and 10-15 guns she chose a glock 42. I had it engraved abd stuff for her.
I highly agree. I have quite a few carry pistols and was thinking about adding a Sig 365 to my lineup. I rented it, and I did not like it at all. Much snappier than my 43x and even the 365 XL model was too.
Reasons why I like you over all the other RUclipsrs. Your ability to explain and teach is by far more superior to many of the others. You're not cocky nor do you come across as such. I honestly believe you practice what you preach, and I love your faith and how you incorporate family into your videos. I believe you legitimately want to help with and teach firearms and self-defense. You are tops, brother!
As a competitive shooter and a trainer, one nuance I would add is that shorter guns aren't "less accurate", they are "harder to shoot accurately" for a person. If you put a G26 and a G34 in a Ransom rest, they will shoot almost the same size group. It's just more forgiving with a longer sight radius.
Not technically true, but practically true, sure.
Yes. I live on a farm and can easily hit a man sized target at 100 meters with my Glock 26. I shoot a lot. I just gradually moved farther away from the target
@@InfamousTub No, it's technically true as well. Just about any stock pistol with a 3" barrel in a rest will shoot groups very similar to something with a 4-5" barrel at 25 yards.
My mother is 82. For over 30 years she's had a S&W model 60. Recently she had it out and was having trouble pulling the trigger and pulling the hammer back. Arthritis and weakness are the problem. She has a Glock 43 now with talon grips. She loves it.
That’s awesome, my grandma is about the same age, she bought a shotgun in the 90s but never used it. In 2020 she wanted to learn to shoot I shot the 12ga and she would definitely have problems with that. She got a Walther pk380 and couldn’t get a proper grip on the frame with her arthritis. She also had the other common beginner issues with a pistol and as she didn’t want to shoot a whole lot but needed to more the best choice was a S&W MP-22.
Can she rack it? I am replacing my carry guns due to arthritis. I can't rack the little pistols or Springfields. Berettas are ok, czs, and 1911, for me but not my wife.
@James M. Hello James, no she's not able to rack the slide or load the magazine. But that doesn't really matter. She's homebound now unless I drive her. The important thing to me is it's comfortable and she can shoot it well enough to defend herself in her home. I told her not to worry about racking the slide or loading magazines. If she ever needed to use it for a "social" encounter, I'll be more than happy to drag away the carcass and reload for her. 🙂
@@jamesm.4426 I was wondering the same. My mom just turned 80 and she switched to a smith j frame due to inability to rack the slide.
@@BINX-RR at that age dont need to do a lot of shooting.. but just needs to be able to shoot when its needed. lets hope not
My threat analysis back around 2001 changed. I converted to a G19 from a six-shot revolver with a 3" barrel. I have a lot of time on the G19, and boat loads of rounds through it. I try to train twice per month or more. I have two G19 guns now, so I have a replacement. I have a bunch of other guns I have tried but I don't carry them and many others that were sold and went away. I spent 28yrs in the Army and many of my friends kept telling me to try a Glock. I hated the way they looked and all the other stuff negative about them. However, I am results oriented in my thinking. I did very well with the gun. On the ranch here in South Texas, that G19 goes on the hip every morning, and comes off at night. We are 60 miles from the border. It is the wild west down here. Nobody in the county goes unarmed, even when going to town for groceries or livestock supplies or church, and nobody worries about concealment. All the ranchers carry a long gun in their truck ALL of the time.
Liked your video, John. All of your points are spot on. The belt and holster are the foundation for safety. I agree strongly ref the external safety issue. Happy New Year to you and all the subscribers.
A 43X MOS with a tiny Holosun 507K X2 red dot, Streamlight TLR-6 micro-light and a Shield Arms 15-round mag is a very compact solution for a nice shooter. Even better, there are plenty of great holsters out there that fit this gun config right off the shelf.
My son and I have Taurus G2C's and absolutely LOVE them!! We've also tried the G3 and G3C and those are also nice. I still prefer my G2C trigger, though. It's a 12 round magazine, but you can also get a 17 round mag for it! I cannot say enough nice things about this firearm! While it has the external safety switch, I never use it. My finger is the safety.
Carried CZ 75 since the '80s. Remember those? Still have it and carry it now and then. Switched to the CZ 75 P01 about 10 years ago. Just feels great in hand and accurate out of the box. Broke it in with minimum rounds. Love the P01!
P01 is my daily carry. My favorite pistol.
Same. P01 is the best of all worlds.
P-01 gun to rule them all!
We remember all the old guns in Cali because we can only buy guns on the certified handgun list. 🙄
Planning on getting a CZ 75 SP01 Tactical
Used to be a larger guy but lost 65lbs last year and now carry a CZ P10C AIWB with 17 round mag with no printing or discomfort. Took a while to perfect with clothing but totally worth it
Got a shadow systems mr920 with. Taran tactical +3 baseplate, in a sidecar rig with a 19 rd mag...the taran is one of thebsmallest +3 baseplate I've seen
Also have a p10c but I haven't gotten a carry rig for it yet
But are you in your 20s, do you have a thin mustache, and and do you like craft beer?
@@cmtptr bruh
@@cmtptr trade out the mustache with a beard and the crafts with Yuengling and you got me 😂 haha! Probably doesn’t help that I’m a musician as well…
The “Shield PLUS” is what I carry. I love it 13+1 in a sub compact with “in my opinion” the best stock trigger you can get from a out of the box gun that’s around $500
Same here. I don't need any other ccw bcuz I'm accurate with it
The smallest gun that shoots "big"
100 percent agree. Out of the box its just pure magig. The trigger, grip angle, weight and how the grip is thin and rounded off its damn near perfect.
Shield plus and the hellcat variants are super underrated
Love my Shield Plus.
Started carrying a J Frame Smith in my 1968 rookie year and continued w/the 340PD until recently. I p/u the LCP Max @ a gunshow a few weeks ago. When I got it to the range I was even more impressed w/it’s accuracy and ease of handling under combat conditions. I pocket carry in a holster w/one spare 12 round mag in my pocket.
Picked up an lcp max and appendix holster recently as an all day carry gun for work love it so far. It’s light enough that i can wear it all day, but heavy enough so that i know its there.
No offense to any of your other videos, but this is one of your best and most useful videos for a new gun owner or a gun owner that has let the newest fad grab a hold of them in a while.
10mm Springfield XDM 4.5 in I think they got a 3.5 if you worried about a print that's my advice learn math and ballistics in Cross Research every single bullet ever made then think about capacity and when you do all of that for months and months and months and months and months like psycho like me then you'll come to the conclusions of the 10 mm bullet is probably the best in the world along with the Springfield XDM 10mm if you get your hands on one of the old ones I would do that and drop the hex Dragon site on the new ones that's just me God bless you and your family stay safe.
I sure differ from John on this.
I have a whole different view.
RULES TO LIVE BY
All handguns ( in handgun calibers ) serve ONLY ONE PURPOSE!!!!
That purpose is to BREAK CONTACT●
Capacity is an offensive reasoning.
*Study handgun caliber bullet wound statistics.*
To high a capacity in handgun calibers leads to staying to long.
Hand guns are for retreating. Retreating to an offensive high capacity rifle caliber pistol. (★The best defense is a good offense. A rifle caliber, high capacity pistol is your best firearms defense.★), but it's hard to conceld carry rifle caliber pistols.
Rule #1 Keep a rifle caliber pistol as close to you as you legally can.
#2 If you are forced to use pistol caliber firearms? Plan your retreat before presentation. (Retreat to a rifle caliber high capacity pistol.)
Communicate to law enforcement ASAP after any presentation of personal firearms' defense.
★I SAY AR-15 PISTOL BECAUSE MICHIGAN DOESN'T HAVE A CCW LIC. LAW. THEY HAVE A CPL CONCEALD PISTOL LIC. AND IN MICHIGAN INSIDE A VEHICLE IS CONSIDERED CONCEALED. SO A TRUCK GUN CAN ONLY BE A PISTOL WITH A VALID CPL.★
The revolver is truly a semi-auto pistol. A " sem-auto" is really a one chamber single shot. Consider a first round dud or an empty chamber. Yep, one chamber single shot fail. Slap Jack and rack.
BUUUUT with a five chamber revolver, no problem semi-automatically pull the trigger again, rolling in and sending a fresh one.
That is why I carry a revolver.
I shot a lot of IDPA matches and have personally witnessed many first round fails. Empty chambers and dud rounds. As well as garments caught in actions causing out of battery fails, short strokes from retention fire do to body contact and / or limp wristing, etc.
None of which is a problem with a revolver.
Revolvers are the only intuitive semi-autos in the world. If the firearm fails to fire,? You just pull the trigger again to fix it.
NO ORHER FIREARM CAN DO THAT●
I must say I love and have always appreciated John’s real world safety techniques and advice. Also for realizing that the world is not a classroom
Myself I've come to love the 365x, xl frame with 365 slide I believe, easy to conceal, easy to control, and good capacity. I've always had a hard time concealing the G19 size comfortably so it was a good compromise.
I have the same gun except x macro tax ops. 17rd. 4 mags. Back straps, and a magwell. More for the money!
365x is so snappy for me as a new shooter, gunna get an x macro instead, it’s not that fun to shoot compared to my m&p gun which is much bigger
@@tatedoh I run the P365X but with a threaded barrel and a comp, brings that snappiness down nicely
Which comp? Got a link?@@TazyBaby
@@t.k.morris it’s a Griffin armament micro carry comp, forgot what site I got it at but has good recoil reduction for like $60 give or take. I have a short of the p365 build on my channel if you want to see it
Running a Canik elite sc for ccw for a couple years now that's kind of my "do all" defense pistol, no problem with getting hands around it, extremely accurate little gun. Too each there own.
GREAT pistol. I have an MR920 & just about (not quite - no M&P) every other gun he presented. Time & time again, I end up tucking my SC with an extended mag. It's ridiculously reliable, easy to shoot & flat out functions flawlessly. Don't get me wrong; I like my "Gucci" what nots & from time-to-time do carry the MR920 but 90% of the time - it's the SC. Solid choice, imo.
I just bought that one today. I have the hellcat pro same size but caniks trigger is awesome.
How’s the reliability?
@@jakegrant6783 perfect
@@benfollowsjesus5504 I can’t get over the trigger reset is so short!!
EDC & CCW is definitely a personal choice and relationship. There are people out there who genuinely believe if you don’t carry a G34 you’re going to die in a self defense shooting. Personally I carry a P365XL in the summer/spring and carry a G17 in the winter/late fall. Again, EDC is very personal! Spend time w/ the firearm you’re planning on carrying and shoot it often! Best of luck to everyone on their CCW journey!
I hate the term EDC because it's become so cliché over the years with people, but you are correct. What you choose to carry is a very personal choice and should be well thought out and thoroughly tested on the range and on your person as much as possible. I've worked in the training industry for a bit and prior service Combat Infantry so I've been exposed to crazy gunfights in unexpected places and I ALWAYS try to prepare my Shooters for the Mentality first. Don't be a "Cool" guy know it ALL. Be humble and learn, don't be afraid to ask and try! I was fortunate enough to have access to over 20 different rentals at my range and so I made my clients shoot a myriad of choices before steering them to my 3 or 4 top choices when it came to purchase and advanced training, post intro. I find that what works well for some doesn't work as well for others, so I encourage people to be open minded about what they like versus what works best for them and find them a happy medium somewhere in between. Steering them away from Glocks is almost a full time job though.
Ha… you do you. I carry M&P EZ9 year round. Slim, easy to conceal OWB. No problem hitting 6” steels at 30yds. Low in capacity so extra mags and mag change practice. The pierce mag extensions were a game changer. Just that extra little bit to get my pinky wrapped around nicely.
Glock 26. If I could only have one gun, it would be a Glock 26 (9x19). Plenty of rounds in a small, accurate, reliable package. Lots of aftermarket. Inexpensive magazines. And you can put a 33 round magazine in it.
My 2¢ invest in xgrips uf you want 19/17 mags, ive nosedived rounds a few times torquing the grip and it pulls the magazine towards the back of the well
Same, small enough to carry, big enough to fight with. I carry mine with a 12+1 Pearce Mag and a 15 round XGrip mag as back up.
Sig P238 is a super soft shooting gun for the size, and is really accurate. Of all the micro .380 pistols, that's one I would recommend because it's actually fun to shoot.
I feel the same way about my bodyguard. I added a pinky extension and magguts +1 (7+1). I'll normally shoot 250-300 rounds at a single range visit and feel like I could keep going. Doesn't hurt my hands at all unlike my Kahr cm9. The bodyguard is very accurate at self defense distance, 7-10 yards. I pocket carry in a DeSantis nemesis holster and my gun is on me at all times other than showering and sleeping. I dress how I like. I do have an og shield which I can pocket carry if I'm wearing certain shorts/pants. I have magguts +2 (9+1) in the flush mag. But it is significantly bulkier and heavier. I've tried iwb carry at every position with different holsters but it's just not for me. I do carry my bg with one in the chamber snd safety on. Swiping off the safety is just part of my draw. Alot of dry fire reps have made it instinctual. I'm 66, retired, and my lifestyle doesn't put me in dangerous situations at all. One thing I like about pocket carry is that I can have my hand in my pocket, on the grip of my gun, without anyone knowing the wiser. Federal hst's or Hornady critical defense are my rounds of choice. Some would say .380 is underpowered but it will definitely be an immediate attitude changer at close range, which is what a concealed carry gun is for.
I'm an advocate of using what works for you, what you will consistently carry, and have trust in its reliability. I also like that the bg is hammer fired, less to go wrong. I've easily shot 2000+ rounds without a single hiccup. My local FFL was the person who recommended the bg, he carries one and I'm very happy he did. Stay safe.
Yes!! I bought for my daughter and she loves the P238; easy to rack and she is getting more and more accurate. I hear what he is saying about it being a ‘half 9mm’ and ‘weak’, but again, she is not trying to be a Marine sniper taking someone out at 500 yards or so; it’s for close up protection and still more powerful than a 22lr caliber pistol…. For me for CCW, I have the Shield 2.0 9mm and love it. I may get a 686+ in 2.5 or 3 inch for CCW; definitely can’t carry the 686+ in the 4 inch barrel I have now because too darn heavy but you can’t beat the load and shoot ease of a revolver….
The 365x is my daily carry and I love it, 14+1 in a tiny gun is amazing.
Agree 100%. As a smaller guy (5,6", 135), I carry my GLOCK 19 when I can - but I have to be more careful about what I'm wearing so that I don't print. But my Sig P365 pretty much disappears even when I'm in shorts & a t-shirt. Context typically drives my choice.
Lol, we are similar in size (you have 10 lbs on me) and I have a similar set up. Bigger Glock and the smallest Glock. I like carrying the bigger one when I can, but I can hide the little one in just about any attire.
Glock 26 is a niece piece. Plus the mags from your 19 can be used in the 26
I realize there are a lot of Anti-Springfielders around, but I carry the Hellcat Pro. Love it.
I love the hellcat too... Just not sure i believe that they didn't know where their money was going
I've been through a few carry guns. I've finally settled on the Springfield Hellcat, and the S&W 38 bodyguard as my go to carry guns. I needed a pocket revolver after I fractured my thumb on my left hand and couldn't load mags, or rack a slide with a hand injury.
Springfield Hellcat and Glock 43X top my list. I spent time in different gun stores comparing sub-compact 9mm models. I made sure I had a good grip and compared the sights and dry fired the triggers. I would come up from a holster position to a natural point on the opposite wall, then I would check the sights to see whether it pointed naturally for me. The best fit Sub FOR ME was the Springfield Hellcat: fastest sights to acquire, best trigger, highest round count/size, naturally pointing grip, best grip texture, and almost a micro/sub compact. [ I shot the Colt Ace and different 1911 models for two decades before I tried my hand at IDPA. I experimented with various Glocks and settled on the 19/23. The grip angle and the bump at the grip bottom conspired to naturally point a little high for me. I am not one of these guys that can flawlessly switch from two decades of 1911 (17*) grip angle with strait backstrap to the Glock (19*) grip angle and "arched" backstrap.] So how did the Glock 43X make the other gun at the top? It doesn't have as pronounced a bump at the bottom of the grip which, in spite of the 19* grip, doesn't push the front sight up to disqualify it at defensive distances. The Glock 19 has never been a comfortable Inside The Waist CC gun for me. Any blocky gun over an inch wide is an outside the waistband model for me. I have owned many Glocks. But then along came the 48, essentially the same length and height as the ubiquitous and number one recommended Glock 19! But the 48 is thinner, and I can carry it IWB! And it doesn't have the "exaggerated" point high bump at the bottom of the grip! And it's lighter weight! AND along came Shield 15 round magazines! AND there's the Glock 43x with a shorter barrel and slide! So the 48/43x are compacts that function as sub compacts! The width of 10 round single stack pistols with staggered 15 round magazines! I did a spread sheet comparison three years ago and nothing beat the 43x, with the 48 a very close second, in size/width/weight/capacity overall! The Hellcat is smaller, but the grip is almost too small, although it has excellent texture. The 48/43x have a great grip, size and feel. The 48 is better than the 19 for CC, and the 43x a little better yet, the best CC Glock in my opinion.
S&W Shield Plus is an excellent choice, and often overlooked.
I'm a Glock simp but messing with a Sheild, they have some of the better triggers I've ever felt
Ditto
Poo samich
Im looking to get one
The Shield Plus is a vast improvement over the original Shield 9mm.
I had the first gen Shield and it was great in its own right but yeah, the Shield Plus is just that much better.
I can say that the best handgun purchase I have made "to date" is when I bought a Canik TP9sf the trigger is amazing it functions like a dream and it holds 18 plus one and the price was very good. I can pretty much hit what I want when I want. It's always good to hear different options. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I own several Caniks and love them all. I switch between a Glock 19 and Sf Elite for EDC.
Yeah. Still not better than a 1911/2011 trigger. And that's from cheap 1911s on up
@@shrock1995 yes they can. METRO ARMS 1911S can they are made in the Philippines.its called the American classic and the American classic 2.the only thing is u don't get Red Dot mounting capabilities.and they also come in 9mm 1911
I've had a p365 for about a year and I carry it every day. It's small but has a 10, 12 and 15 round mag that came with it and factory tritium sights.
I've been carrying the 365 X-Macro for a couple months now, slightly larger footprint with 17+1, easily manageable.
I love this channel. You always get rock solid information but you get the added benefit of John’s charisma. You have me smiling and nodding my head more times that I can count. Thanks as always
I carried my gun for the last 5 years. 2 months ago I shot the Shadow Systems CR920. Wow, just wow, so I bought one. It made my old gun feel like a brick. Thanks so much Warrior Poets, you really know what you are doing
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Good to hear the Shield 2.0 is mentioned. I think the Plus is also a good choice given the higher capacity.
I have one, it's very nice! Not quite as nice as my VP9 but close!
The plus was the perfect goldilocks between fire power and comfort of cary/concealment for me
I love my Shield Plus. Easy to conceal and 13+1.
@@deebee4575 It also shoots like a bigger gun. I HATE the way it looks, but I decided to ignore the aesthetics and carry the Shield because it's the right choice for me.
@@ArchRotor I have other pretty pistols and rifles.
This one is a tool I may need to save my life so I don’t care about cosmetics.
Great advice. My personal choice for short and light EDC currently is the P365 but with the XL spectre grip swapped on. 12 rd mags with magguts mag spring so its 14+1 9mm in a compact size.
Very informative and inspiring. Here in South Africa we have THE highest crime in the world , yet obtaining a license to carry a gun is a tedious procedure that in my case at least ,took just under 2 years ,because … Don’t give up your freedoms in America for no one as ultimately “saving a drowning person is the responsibility of the said person “
Thank you! We have too many people here in America that have no clue just how free we are. Too many think gun control would be a good idea, they obviously have no clue what it’s like anywhere else. They’re too stupid to realize strict gun laws only help criminals and do nothing to reduce crime.
Well said. I wonder what the shadowbanned comment below you says.
Sad what’s happening to Whites in South Africa. America has a lot of blacks too. Sucks
Saffa here as well, been waiting forever...
I went with the P365XL, and then bought the standard 365 grip module and 10-rd mag. Now when the weather warms up, I just run that smaller grip and magazine and get to keep the better sights, trigger and holster compatibility of the XL.
I put a romeo zero red dot and extended mag on mine it's my new favorite.
Get a holster with a claw. Makes a big difference. I had a nice one from we the people holsters but put a light on my 365xl, now I use a sidecar from T-Rex and it’s great
Love my p365xl, especially with the extended mag.
Think I’ll do that with the P365 X Macro… may be cheaper than getting a P365X too
@@KILLLERBOB At this point I would also go to the macro. However, couldn’t be happier as the macro was not a thing yet when I purchased.
Thank you for making this video. A guy in my church just asked me to recommend a pistol for his wife. I gave him a few suggestions and offered to take them to the range and let her try out several options. Just sent him this video, so all his problems will be solved and they will live happily ever after in 2A bliss. Thanks Warrior Poet Society!
I subscribe to the philosophy that if you do not buy her purses or shoes, do not buy her guns. have an idea of what is reliable and accurate, but ultimately, let her pick it. She is more likely to shoot it, more likely to carry it.
Well John has a biased against 1911s. I recommended several women the Springfield EMP 1911 in 9mm .and they love it and shoot it well and the trigger is the best
@@TheRealZJE313 It is hard not to shoot a 1911 accurately. Either the individual just can't shoot pistols or is trying to mess it up. John Browning got all the critical ergonomics right on that one.
@@timclaus8313 I agree. That's why John made a FOOL of himself.He should have trained with it frist for a few weeks. Then done the review
Super solid video. Very direct, straight to the point, no messing around. Gotta respect that!
Recently bought a CZ P-10C Optics Ready version. I am happy with it so far. Shoots good, no malfunctions. Looking forward to mount a light and a red dot on it. So far there is no need for another autoloading pistol for me, especially that I have a couple of revolvers as well.
I have owned and sold probably 15 or so pistols in the passed 12 months. The only one that has NEVER had a malfunction is my p10c, and my m&p 2.0. Had glocks malfunction, had multiple shadow systems malfunction, has sigs rust and malfunction.
Edit: HK vp9 has ran like a dream too
@@victortalley Thanks for your input. This only confirms my choice. CZ seems like a solid choice not only to me.
I carry a shield plus. Absolutely love it. Very concealable, 13 + 1 capacity in 9 mm. Great feel. Absolutely love it
Same here. Love my Shield Plus for all the right reasons
The new equalizer pistol runs the shield plus magazine footprint. 15rd magazine that's just a touch longer than the 13rd mags.
Love my Shield +
I don’t have the plus…I have a 2.0 Performance Center 9MM and I love it so much…I’ve tried at least a dozen other firearms, and have a little Hellcat…but nothing feels like a part of my hand the way my Shield does. It’s my perfect fit. And it’s RELIABLE! ♥♥♥
Great vid! But I do have to stand up a little for micro guns. I quickly realized I just wasn’t going to carry every day unless I could find something small. Sorry. Yes, I’m a woman, past middle age. But I did commit to training - and found a micro with honestly less kick than you would think, and I’ve learned to draw it fast, and have become quite a dead eye. 90+% on various scoring systems. My only point is to reiterate what everyone already knows… that you have to find something you will actually carry. Always. And for some of us it makes more sense to train hard with one gun than to have different guns for different outfits.
👍🏾. I got a pf9 when they were the smallest 9mm you could buy. It fits anywhere. Size makes it not a pleasure to shoot, though -- which John covered pretty well.
It always makes sense to have one gun for EDC. When you're betting your life on a tool you have to know that tool inside out.
What you carry is a personal choice but for me the hardest part of concealed carry is actually carrying the thing day in day out and with that in mind a micro nine just makes it so much easier!
@Poco Rosso...it's your choice and good for you. At least you're carrying something. If it goes bang and spits lead vitamins for the bad guy to ingest I say "better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it". Good on ya girl! 👍
Different guns is alright, with enough hands-on experience and things.
I like how you promoted your Poet guns without really shoving them down our throat or belittling other guns. That was a class act. Thanks.
Love all your work John, and I love how much the network has grown, keep it up. People call me crazy because I have many guns to choose from in the safe but I keep going back to the Taurus G3C (and the 856 if I'm just in the mood for a revolver). One thing I will say to anyone watching is that if you choose to buy a pistol with a manual safety and carry it, you need to train with that safety to where it's second nature, and if you're not going to train enough to get there then you should take John's advice and get a gun with passive safeties. When I shoot my thumb is always riding the safety lever, which I think gives me more control of the gun with one hand and it keeps me from riding the slide stop (I've heard other guntubers call this using it as a gas pedal).
Right on point! One of the exceptions I've found to the normally heavy double action trigger pull of the snubbie .38's is the Kimber K6S in .357, nice smooth double action pull, can use .38 +P's for faster shots.
I agree with you most of the time, I mostly carry a Shield Plus with a 13 rd mag and a 15 round mag in sidecar but I have carried a Sig P938 many times 7+1 with 2 extra mags and I can shoot it well, with the flush mag 6 rd version it is snappy, but I have never used it.
Since starting in policing in 2007, I have carried a .40 cal. My dad even bought me a G27 when I graduated from academy. Over the years, I have come to prefer the 9mm & carry a G43x with Shield Arms 15 round mag off-duty. I stock pile 9mm for all of my non-work pistols.
After some persuasion, I have talked my Chief into switching to 9mm & we are in the process of switching. Yay for that! However, since I’m not getting rid of my G27 bought by my dad & my G23, which was my issued first gun I carried, I will continue to keep some .40 cal on hand.
Great video!
Love my MP Shield PLUS. Occasionally carry the MP 9 2.0 17+1, but that’s definitely more of a commitment when carrying.
I carry a shield plus also with 507K RDO. Great ccw gun. New M&P trigger is incredible. And I just heard that the new 15 round EZ equalizer magazines work in the shield plus.
I’ve been carrying religiously for over 15 years and have tried everything from a tiny Ruger LCP to full-size Glock 17. Not to mention the dozens of holsters and belts. While size is definitely a factor, I’ve found that holsters and belts to be the determining factor of what I can carry comfortably. A good belt/holster allows me to carry a bigger gun more comfortably.
100%
Total weight is factor for some people. If it feels like a brink , it is being left behind.
RULES TO LIVE BY
All handguns ( in handgun calibers ) serve ONLY ONE PURPOSE!!!!
That purpose is to BREAK CONTACT●
Capacity is an offensive reasoning.
*Study handgun caliber bullet wound statistics.*
To high a capacity in handgun calibers leads to staying to long.
Hand guns are for retreating. Retreating to an offensive high capacity rifle caliber pistol. (★The best defense is a good offense. A rifle caliber, high capacity pistol is your best firearms defense.★), but it's hard to conceld carry rifle caliber pistols.
Rule #1 Keep a rifle caliber pistol as close to you as you legally can.
#2 If you are forced to use pistol caliber firearms? Plan your retreat before presentation. (Retreat to a rifle caliber high capacity pistol.)
Communicate to law enforcement ASAP after any presentation of personal firearms' defense.
★I SAY AR-15 PISTOL BECAUSE MICHIGAN DOESN'T HAVE A CCW LIC. LAW. THEY HAVE A CPL CONCEALD PISTOL LIC. AND IN MICHIGAN INSIDE A VEHICLE IS CONSIDERED CONCEALED. SO A TRUCK GUN CAN ONLY BE A PISTOL WITH A VALID CPL.★
The revolver is truly a semi-auto pistol. A " sem-auto" is really a one chamber single shot. Consider a first round dud or an empty chamber. Yep, one chamber single shot fail. Slap Jack and rack.
BUUUUT with a five chamber revolver, no problem semi-automatically pull the trigger again, rolling in and sending a fresh one.
That is why I carry a revolver.
I shot a lot of IDPA matches and have personally witnessed many first round fails. Empty chambers and dud rounds. As well as garments caught in actions causing out of battery fails, short strokes from retention fire do to body contact and / or limp wristing, etc.
None of which is a problem with a revolver.
Revolvers are the only intuitive semi-autos in the world. If the firearm fails to fire,? You just pull the trigger again to fix it.
NO ORHER FIREARM CAN DO THAT●
@@stanhry Thats why you should have options. You can carry a sub compact. On one day compact another and full sized when you want to up your game. What ever you feel like have options get trained no excuses for not carrying in this day and age. I carried a glock 17 for my first year of concealed carry. I know several that carry, g34s I carry frequently a large gun 19+1. You just have to figure out what works for you.
Definitely. I've only carried for a few years but nearly gave up early on when it was much too painful. Thankfully, someone convinced me to give aliengear's shapeshift a try before quitting and that changed my life. More recently, I picked up an Kore Essentials belt and had a similar mind blowing experience with it. I'm sure there are many similar or even better products out there, but the point is a good holster will transform the comfort of your carry and a good belt (made for EDC) will transform your daily carry fatigue.
i started carrying about 7-8 years ago with a M&P 9 compact, loved it but wanted to try others. got a P365XL with the optic on it, liked it but was a tad smaller. Went tried a S&W shield 2.0 and the grips were like sand paper, but i liked how it shot. Now i landed on what I love the most is the Hellcat Pro, perfect size, feel and everything about it for EDC for me.
Printing?? So trivial!!PRINTING??SO TRIVIAL!!
please explain.. @@johndoee3850
Hello John, I believe a great carry gun is the Beretta px4 storm if you are still listening my 2nd carry gun is a waltherp99. Both are easy to shoot and sights are very good.
So many to choose from , my mom was interested in owning a fire arm and she she kept looking at small .380s , I recommend the shield EZ in .380 and she handles it very well , forgot to mention she was in her late sixties when she got it and she is tiny.
I've moved away from the standard P365 and have moved the FCU over to a Macro frame with an XL slide. After thousands of rounds, I just didn't feel confident with it. The increased size of the Macro frame feels closer to shooting my full size guns while not sacrificing conceal ability.
Another great video from Mr. Poet and Co. Thanks! The S&W Shield Plus is a nice 13+1 option.
New equalizer 15 round magazine fits in the shield plus. Looking at grabbing a couple.
“Cone of ballistic hate.” Classic John! Many years ago, I used to be one of those guys, who would only carry a .45. As time went by, I realized (through training and experience) that 9mm is (IMO) a better overall round. Now I carry a P365 or a P365XL with light and red dot. This pair makes, what I would consider, a “perfect” sub-compact weapon system (parts interchangeability, some magazine compatibility, and identical manual of arms). And as John said, if you buy a P365 new, you’ll avoid those early produced weapons that had some reliability issues. Godspeed!
It’s not a better round. It’s cheap and easy to shoot that’s all 9mm is. Personally 45 is a better round as you can actually carry it in the woods. I’m a country boy so I have to think about 4 legged critters as well as the 2 legged ones. 45 covers all of that. Same goes for 357 mag. I think the tactical community likes to solely focus on shooting terrorists and active shooters that they forget that 9mm isn’t gonna stop that bear or cougar.
@@Fat_Thor_1138 9mm will put down a cougar just fine, and as for the 45...10mm is better at basically everything 45 has an advantage in. I switched over after looking at hard cast performance and hollow point. 45 is inferior to 9mm,10, and .40s&w as a hollow point round (where 9 is king after considering recoil) and outclassed in the hard cast by 10 completely. The .45 is an old tired round that served it's purpose well, but it's kinda a terrible choice for new guns.
A devastating round that reduces recoil is the Underwood 9mm 65gr or 68gr +P.. With a 4" barrel It zips along at 1,800 fps.
I'm a .45ACP man myself. The first pistol I ever shot was a .45 (Roger P-90). I've shot .40, 9mm, etc, and I just really like the .45ACP. As a bigger guy, I carry a full size (Springfield XD 5 inch barrel). I like the control i have with it and, through regular training, have become quite proficient. I sometimes print but its rare that anyone ever notices. The only time I ever had an issue is when I bought a box of some off-brand ammo that was really cheap. Several feed issues. Normally I keep Underwood hallow points in it except when I'm plinking.
Carried the Shield for years and loved it. Switched to the 365 XL a year ago. With a Holosun and a TRL light and 15 rounds it’s my favorite gun to carry.
Shield plus has been my carry for the last 6 months but I just bought a 365 x macro think it’s gonna dethrone it
I just switched to 365 XL. I put a romeo zero red dot and extended mag it's my new favorite, too.
Shield has been my go to for years. but I think the threat is changing and it is wise to carry more rounds. So now I have a 15+1 plus a 17 round on on my belt minimum. going from 16 rounds to a minimum of 33 rounds.
Hk guy here, carry a P30SK and absolutely love it for a couple reasons. Hammer fired, so I get the crispness of a single action trigger with the safety of a double (yes you need to learn 2 trigger pulls and yes it takes longer. I don’t mind and have trained it for years)
Also being technically a subcompact, it’s on the large end and takes standard p30 series magazines. If you want a short grip and max conceal ability use the flush fit 10’s, for more capacity it will take the 13’s, 15’s, and even the p30’s 17 or 20 rounders. For its size it shoots like a much larger handgun.
John, regarding revolvers, they have their advantages too. The Ruger LCR series have very smooth easy to pull triggers. The .327 magnum version is 6-shot and older/weaker folks can load it down with ..32 H&R magnum, .32 long or even .32 short so even the oldest, most arthritic, hands can tolerate the recoil which is virtually nil with the .32 loads. They are a way better option for recoil sensitive folks than a .22 or .22 magnum which require much stronger hammer springs to be reliable and thus have lousy triggers. For some folks they make a lot of sense.
Revolver all the way! Failure to feed, never. Failure to eject, never. Lost or broken mag, never. If reliability is the paramount factor, ie. trust my life to it, revolver wins. It won't be deleted by pocket lint. If you don't know, you haven't carried a striker fired for long.
Good advice!
I live in AZ and I’m a Sig fan. During the summer I pocket carry a P365 .380. During the cooler months I appendix carry a P365XL w/Macro grip. Just my 2cents.
Love the wooby jacket! Also, i conceal a full size m17 with a full size x300. Not allowed to carry at work but no-ones noticed so far!
I conceal carry a hellcat outfitted with a red dot and a 11 round mag. I keep both 13 and 15 round mags with me as well, but for comfort and less footprint, I keep the the 11 round mag in.
John,
Thank you for another great video.
God bless.
Take care,
You earned a new sub here, great info & presentation with some quality light humor and a great attitude. One of the very very few creators I’ve ever listened to that I dont have to 1.25-2.0 x playspeed. Thx.
When I started concealed carrying I started with the 43 seven round magazines. But when the 43x came out with a full length grip but shorty slide. I considered switching to that because it had 10 rounds but I didn't. Then Shield arms came out with a 15 round magazine that fit flush in the 43x. And that was the deciding factor. I got the 43x I carry 30 + 1 every day it's comfortable it fits in my baby hands and is very concealable. In my opinion the 43x is the best concealed carry gun on the market when paired with the shield as 15 magazines
43x with 15rd flush fitting shield arms mags are king
I think the glock 26 is one of the most underrated all around carry guns for edc. Can size it up or down due to the situation with all of the double stack magazine/extensions compatibility. I can get 15+1 w/ a SLR +5 baseplate in a smaller package than a G19.
the g26 isn't bad at all, but sometimes it's no better than a g19. If you carry inside waistband, a longer slide can actually make concealment easier, as it provides a "keel effect" that pushes the grip into your body. Especially if you use a holster wedge.
You can also use a g17 or g19 holster with your glock 26 though.
This is also why I hate the g19x and the p365x. Short slide + long grip is the opposite of what you want for concealment.
Petite grandma g26 myself. Winks got to replace the trigger thou.
I would say Beretta PX4 storm compact carry is too. Wish I would have got mine sooner
I'd like to shout out to my FN509C Tactical. Outstanding pistol a lot of people...mostly glock snobs sleep on.
I love the G26 it is definitely in my carry rotation…shoots great, compact and holds multiple capacity mags
I recently switched from the FN 509 to the Glock 43x for my EDC. I love it! It’s compact enough to conceal well, I shoot it accurately, and it’s not stupid heavy and causing my pants to fall off.
I have the FN 509 but never have tried the 43x. I understand that you prefer the Glock for EDC but which do you like better otherwise?
@@t.k.morris well… I just bought the FN Relfex if that’s any indication. 😂
Another great video John. Thanks for sharing.
John, you should try the 365 with a Wilson Combat XL grip. It is GAME CHANGING and doesn't add a heck of a lot of bulk at all. I even got the extended matching pinky rests for my mags and it fills the hand perfectly and took all the snap out of it when shooting. Shoots just as flat as my g19 does. Also, the wilson combat grip is only like 65 bucks... hand's down the cheapest and best possible upgrade out there.
Been shooting my G2c for years now 1,500+ rounds shot, amazing gun for the value! It’s never jammed on me and no issues (even after not cleaning 300+ rounds at a time), it’s been thrown around and through some dirt too - still shoots great. ESPECIALLY with a conversion kit from CAA it’s a lot cooler. Taurus makes me seriously consider their new tactical G3
Great video!!! Thanks for helping me know what gun to buy to defend myself and others!!!
P365x here, 14 round Magguts mag. Couldn't quite get a hold of it at first, but after training and weekly range time, I haven't found anything of that size with that round count that I shoot as easily and accurately. Recently added the Wilson Combat grip and it feels much more "complete" for me.
Always love WPS stuff....John and the boys continue to be my favorite guntubers.
They're ok. They're immoral people, not "sacred protectors." But there's good basic gun info for newbies.
@@jimboalogo what do you mean? immoral like Jesus says all men have sinned and come short of the glory of God? or are you making some sort of claim?
@@sidewinder3316 Sure we all fall short, but some fall shorter than others. In Warrior Poet's video about Bug Out Bags, he says he's not a prepper because he'll just come steal someone's stuff if he needs to. That's someone's life's work he would be stealing. That's immoral anyway you cut it. He is not a good man. This video: ruclips.net/video/RVdMHDaiaFs/видео.html
@@jimboalogo fucking who cares? If my family was in danger of starving, I would do anything to keep them alive. If you're saying you'd just let them starve, you are the one who's a monster.
@@jimboalogo "some fall shorter than others" isn't all sin equal in the Bible in God's eyes, or are you now claiming to be the judge of man?
My EDC is the GLOCK 30. Is easily concealed, great stopping power and is very accurate 👍🏽
I concur. Love mine's
I'm a fairly large guy (6' 1", 220lbs), I've always had a thing for 1911 45s. I had one in my younger days and loved it, but had to part with it because of financial difficulties. I bought another one a couple years ago, much nicer than the previous one. I put a muzzle brake on it, decided I still love it, but it definitely wasn't what I wanted for a concealed carry. A friend of mine recently showed me his S&W Shield 9mm with the thumb safety and I fell in love with it. This will definitely be my next gun! I know you are NOT a 1911 fan. Did I mention I am DEFINITELY NOT a Glock fan boy? 😆 If it was at all feasible I'd carry one of my dad's old Ruger 3 screw 4⅝” barrel 357 Blackhawks, but printing, luggage, etc.
John I understand your distrust of safeties, however if all your guns have safeties and you build it into your battery of arms it becomes second nature to you. I spent 22 years in the CG, (i know you have heard this before) I started with the 1911, and then made the switch to the Beretta's. We were trained to take off the safety as soon as the gun left the holster and was brought up into the ready position. Just saying if you train with it then you will not have a problem.
I agree. But you can only stick with one type of guns if you are trained with safeties. You will get mixed up if you carry 1 with a safety and 1 without.
@@troytruong8246 I agree, that's why I said "if all your guns have safeties"!
Always love your videos, John. The humor mixed in has me rolling. Great video and I agree...it depends on the warrior, not the arrow. Keep it up!
Well, I pocket carry a bodyguard and love it! Added magguts +1 extension (7+1), pinky extension, painted front sight white. Other than showering and sleeping, it's always on me. I find it easy to shoot and accurate at self defense ranges, 7-10 yards. Loaded with Federal hst's or Hornady critical defense.
I'll go through 250-300 rounds at a range visit and still could keep going. No concerns about printing or dressing around my gun. It's what works for me and my lifestyle. I respect John's opinions, but I'm still the ultimate arbiter of what I choose.
Very informative, thanks. Keep up the great work!
I started with a Ruger EC9, my wife had a Ruger LCPII .380. She wanted something bigger (so did I, just needed the excuse 😂) I also wanted something with a larger capacity for my kit. Glock has established reliability (standard issue for most Law Enforcement) and cost effective so I picked us up a couple G19 Gen5's. I'm more comfortable with it than my Ruger, so it's my EDC.
I've got years of experience carrying the Taurus G2C and my wife carries the G2S. I'm not crazy about the external safety, but I'll vouch for reliability. I've put a metric sh*t ton of rounds through it and utilized it in a couple predator defense situations, along with hours and hours of defensive training.
Having said that, I'm going to be moving to the shadow systems cr920 soon. I'm in love with my DR920 War Poet, which is what goes in my battle belt.
I love my Colt Mustang Pocketlite. It’s a .380 but with the right ammo it has comparable ballistics to a 9mm. It’s highly reliable and easy to shoot.
G43x is my EDC. 10 rounds is perfect and the grip is perfect stock everything is perfect and all around is perfect
John, I bought a DR920 War Poet and added a TLR1hl when I used to EDC a hellcat. Well, after the first trip to the range when I realized how much better I shot the dr920, I stopped carrying and eventually sold the hellcat.
I can appendix carry a dr920 with a 19rd mag and 22rd spare mag because I’m 6’4” and the size of an offensive linemen.
Tier1concealed makes a great holster and it’s what I use.
Just carry whatever the largest gun you can conceal is…
Bought my first pistol a couple months ago, Sig P365X. I swapped the stock frame for the Wilson Combat XL frame and carry it in a Tenicor Certum holster with a 15 round spare mag. Very convenient for appendix carry and perhaps one of the best all around pistols along with the 365XL. I would have bought the XL but only found the X in stock when I went to buy. Not disappointed with the 0.5 inch shorter barrel though. I'd maybe consider buying an XL slide and barrel if it didn't cost almost as much as the gun itself.
Agree. I have the x with the WC grip module. Awesome module, feels just perfect being a 1911 guy. Have over a 1000 flawless rounds through it. Great appendix carry gun. Disappears easily.
Love my 19x at 5'10 180lbs its easy for me to conceal at the 4 o'clock. I love the capacity it gives me, the larger grip with the shorter slide. It just works for me.
If the 19x/45 had been out when I started buying XDs I likely would've bought one.
The g2 and g3c were 194 bucks at Christmas for weeks. They're extremely reliable
I like everything about my G2C except that first trigger press.... yuck. Lol.
The G3 is the GOAT. 😅
As a woman who just got into carry..i appreciate this vudeo. Lcp ruger was my first but live my s & w 38 special. No trigger....easy grip & use. Got a couple speedliaders & done!
Good advice. My wife actually ask for a gun a week ago. Went with a revolver for its simplicity! Unfortunately I had to go with .22 caliber. Not what I would of preferred in caliber, but it's better than nothing. She's happy and that's what counts. It's something she will carry, shoot and practice with.
Aaah, did you get her the 22WMR?
That Sig P238 is actually a very good micro .380 -- shoots very well. I keep one in my PFD as my "fishing gun". Great video.
Thanks John Your Years of experience is much appreciated and the fact you give your wisdom to us we are beholden to men and women who share that shalom
I really want to see John run a Staccato. As much as he wants to dislike the 1911/2011 platform I just know he’d run a Staccato very well and have no choice but to love them!
Do you think he's never handled and shot a staccato?
Didn't he pull a 1911 off his waist in this video? lol
He did which I thought was funny. He has videos that lead me to think he’s against them. I absolutely believe he’s handled a Staccato but I want to see him “run” one and review it.
As a carry gun though? Given his dislike of the mechanics of operating an external safety on his carry gun, hard to see how he'd ever go with a Staccato. Good competition/range gun.
Ehhh, I carry mine concealed often. The hammer and safety are never an issue. The only downside to carrying it concealed is the weight IMO. Staccatos are just great guns. If I ever was defending myself I’d choose my staccato over my Glocks any day.
Dude, I'd love to spend a week learning how to shoot better from you. I love how you present the material in such a relaxed, fun manner. Heck, even just a day would be awesome! Keep up the good work!
I took Pistol 1 & 2. Good stuff. Finally learned the proper grip and how to move and shoot.
I would too. Especially when he John see me running a 1911 for concealed carry both full size and Commander size in 45.cause after see his video of him running that 1911 Kimber .made me really piss off
I love my glock 43. I can go as small as I want when trying to minimize to the extreme but I can also use extended mags when I can carry a bigger package.
I agree in principle with most of what you're saying... My EDC, however, is primarily a S&W 637 very similar to the Taurus revolver pictured. I have a CZ PCR for carry if things get rougher in our relatively safe neighborhood. I have many friends who are just starting to show interest in carrying and preparing to use a pistol. Many of us do not have the resources or time to spend the necessary time at the range. The inherent safety of a double action is why I recommend that for a starter. You make the argument that the long trigger pull is a hindrance and that's true of a hammerless 38 but it's a natural action to cock the hammer as you bring it up to shoot and then the trigger is every bit as light as a semi-auto. I can hit a 6-in steel plate at 5 yards consistently. Another plus to a revolver is that if the bad guy gets his hands on your weapon It will still shoot. For years it was recommended to leave the chamber empty in a semi-auto - which makes no sense at all - But was probably because way too many people shot themselves in the leg. I don't have military training or the time to prep as much as I should, so with both of my primary carry guns I'm relying on the double action or a quick hammer cock. I recommend your videos to everybody I can; I messaged all my daughters the video that your wife did on situational awareness. Keep up the great work.
I’ve got a Taurus G3C. First handgun I’ve shot and also owned. I carry every single day and it feels comfortable. I’ve put 250 rounds down range so far and haven’t had any jams or malfunctions. I’ve also become pretty accurate with practice and some help. My groupings are tight. Would love to get some legitimate training from the WPS team. Was happy to see you include the Taurus in here. Also I appreciate these type of videos a lot. Knowledge is power. Train hard train smart folks
I took the safety off mine and gorilla taped the frame hole. Hasnt caused any problems yet but ymmv so i won't reccommend anymore carry that way til you're sure if you hate safeties too
Try to get practice under duress. Do some jumping jacks and short sprints right before you draw and fire that elevated heart rate will change things drastically.
@@rwally192 the safety switch isn’t an issue for me. I just keep it off and don’t even notice it’s there
@@donright4310 that’s good advice thank you
G3 is way better than the g2, which wasn't bad at the time...
I rock the CZ P-01, my only complaint with it is the same thing I love about CZ, the recessed slide. I used to carry a Sig SP 2022 and would practice clearing jams, never had an issue with that standard Sig slide, as soon as I moved over to the P-01 though, I fucked my hand up a few times, slipping and slapping the rear sight. I shoot much better with the CZ then I do the sig, which is why I carry is mainly, but there is for sure a learning curve with racking it if you're not used to the smaller less accessible slide.
P.S. I also have a weird hatred of striker fired, for some reason I go out of my way to use SA/DA hammer fired. I've shot them and I own one striker fired, but for some reason I can't get my self to carry them. Which is weird because both the P-01 and the SP 2022 lack a safety, so you'd think I'd feel safer running a striker with a safety, but a hammer in DA (decocked) and a thumb over the hammer on deholster or holstering feels better to me.
I love that the gun is fully at rest. I have the SP2022 and PX4 Storm and I feel more comfortable carrying them than my striker-fired pistols because the system is at rest. I know my striker-fired pistols have drop safeties and won’t go off unless the trigger is pulled but still…
I bought a Sig P365 when it first came out with the Mass compliant version. It's great, but a bit small for someone like me who wears XXL gloves. So, since it's modular, I upgraded to a Wilson Combat XL frame, and 12 round mags converted to 14 round mags with the Magguts Plus 2 kits. So, now I have a CCP that is essentially custom tailored for me.
Bummer you have to have it milled to throw a red dot on the non XL version
I like the P365XL (the one in my safe gets carried by my spouse), but I find it a bit narrow for my XXL hands. My body shape and size allow me to conceal a CZ PCR reasonably well, and I shoot better with it (unless I'm doing target shooting--the P365XL has a Romeo Zero RDS on it).
I'm sure yours shoots even better than the one I have, too.
Staccato C2 Duo - 15 + 1, great duty trigger, fast recycle accurate (for me) past 50 yards. Well over 2,000 rounds so far, with no failure of any type.
It's the Shield Plus for me. It's affordable (especially after S&W's new pricing), has the best trigger for the newer micro pistols, excellent grip texture, the grip swells out in the right areas to really fill out my hands, has great capacity, and shoots like a much larger pistol while still being relatively tiny. I tried the P365, P356XL, Glock 43, Glock 43X, Ruger Max-9, Taurus GX4, Glock 26, and a P320 XCompact at Texas Gun Experience before going with the Shield Plus. It was the perfect pistol for my EDC due to the size and shootability at such a small size.
P.S. I would recommend getting the Optics Ready model even. if you don't care about optics because it comes with a high vis night sight. Well worth the extra 25-30.
I'm a Glock and Springfield guy but I am so happy I picked up a p365 SAS. It took a few dry fire reps to get used to picking up the dot. 12+1 with a 15 rounder as backup, perfect grip angle, awesome stippling and a trigger pull that is smooth and crisp. It's not snappy like my 43x and Hellcat.
New 17rd mags are shorter then the 15rd
Same! Gotta a Glock 23 Gen 3, and Springfield Hellcat OSP w/Hex Wasp micro. They both have been great.
Same here my XL came with two 15 round mags and one 12 round mag. Plenty of ordinance. The Red Dot is a little difficult to find in a pinch but let's face it in a situation you're pretty much just going to point and shoot like the cops do.
Lost my 43x to the SAS. The grip fits my hand better. The ported barrel greatly reduces recoil. Plus the factory 15 and 17 Rd mags work great.
I honestly am an M&P guy. I prefer the grip angle over Glocks, and feel the triggers are a little better overall, which is important if we should not be looking at modding the guts. Also I am a big proponent of carrying tools that go above and beyond any torture you can put them through and M&Ps are just built tough like your grandpa's hand tools for no type of reason in my experience. It's a game of inches between Glock and M&P for me and M&P *JUST* edges out a win.
Newer S&W shields triggers are definitely better than the original.
In consideration of this video and the fact that you think the M&P barely surpasses a Glock, you should seriously consider ShaSys. There's a reason he chose ShaSys weapons as his compact & sub-compact choices in the vid above--they are *far* superior to Glocks because they are DESIGNED to be. Regarding above-and-beyond torture tests, this YT vid ought to settle any questions. ruclips.net/video/qKAz5s_S-oU/видео.html
@@KravMagoo 500 rounds really isn’t a test, people shoot that in a single class. There are plenty of striker fire pistols trying to take the throne as Glock killer.
@@davidb9323 =whoosh=
@@KravMagoo money has long been a limiting factor. If I could go for the ground up above and beyond options I would without hesitation.
Current best friend is a Shield Plus in Dirty 30. 13+1 flush fit, or 16+1 with a slight stendo, optics ready, has every advantage over 9mm that 9mm has over everything else, including reduced recoil (except for price, currently). What's not to love?
I'd also imagine that the 15 round 9mm mag released for the Equalizer could be something like 19+1 or 20+1 in 30 Super Carry. Now THAT is a crazy number.
My edc as well! Love the little 30. Would love to see a larger gun in the caliber some day.