My takeaway is this. For long-form video shooting, you can either buy the R5 + Ninja V + SSD Card + Adapter for around $4600 (in the US) or purchase a Canon C70 for $5500 (C70 uses SD cards). So you save around $900 and have a camera you can also use for still photography. Obviously the C70 has many more bells and whistles like internal NDs and XLR inputs, but if the R5 added C-Log 2 and 3 in a firmware update, it might make the R5 an attractive do-it-all solution for some people.
At this day and age I find SD Cards more and more tedious. Video files are getting so big by now that you just don't want to use SD Cards anymore. The R5 can record to SD too but even with a Sandisk Extreme Pro it just takes for ever to transfer your files. CF Express of course is even faster than an SSD but also way more expensive. So in my opinion SSDs give you the best usability and performance while being the cheapest medium. I even guess that most people won't be using the C70 without an external recorder. Swapping all those SD Cards will become expensive too 😅
Awesome video. I already own an Atomos V which I used with my Sony A7iii, but now definitely switching to Canon EOS R6 now that you removed the last reason I was holding back (overheating in longform shoots). WIth the new firmware 1.1.1, any 4k shooting I do in a run and gun situation will never be long enough to cause overheating. Thanks for making my decision easier!
Glad I could be of assistance Ryan! You'll love this setup. By the way the h264 recording from the Ninja V is also way easier to edit then the h265 footage from the R5 and R6
Very instructive video. I have a Canon R5c and I can't manage to send a clean feed on my external monitor. Camera settings are showing on the external monitor. what setting disable it?
Thanks for all the info! Great video. I am upgrading to an R5 from an 90D and have been looking at external recording options. I am wondering if you have any advice for recording straight to an ssd without the use of an external monitor? I don’t necessarily need a monitor at the moment, but ssd’s are significantly cheaper than buying expensive CFexpress cards. Thanks for any advice you have and I hope you’re having a good day!
Very good video with lots of useful info! Hey, one tip: You can just say R5, you don’t need to say “EOS R5” all the time. I will make it easier for folks to follow you and it is less stuff for you to say!
Excellent video, but which recording settings did you do in the ninja v? I’m using a canon eos r, but I don’t know which recording mode is better in the ninja v. The HQ or the 422?
What happens when recording ProRes Raw on a R5 or R5 C? ProRes Raw is Clog2 with cinema gammut. So it will have the same color issues because it's cinema gammut color space in prores raw? Thank you.
I know this is an old video, but with the release of the the new ninja from atomos, it now has the el zone and arri false colors. The only way to use those is if you turn off the legalize. According to the atomos manual those 2 options are only available for log footage
Great video :) I've always been using Atomos recorders on all my cameras because you just can't work seriously with the tiny monitors on small DSLR bodies, and also my workflow is in ProRes. So the R5 has been the best camera I've ever used because I don't have to think about any potential overheating problems, or deal with the horrible h265.
Great concise summery Attire Bear. One question. I can't find how you chose between 8 and 10 bit in Clog. Can you please tell me how you got that option? Or I may not be getting that option?
Hi Atti, thank you so much for the helpful video. What are the settings to make the R5 camera record button trigger the external recording? I can't seem to make it work. Have a great day.
@@AttiBear Any idea if you can record without a CF Express now or do you still have to have it in? And if you do have it in is there a way to only record to the ninja?
Super helpful video thank you! I just got an R5 and am using it to live stream. I have scoured RUclips and cannot find an answer to this: do you know of a way to get a true clean HDMI out when using autofocus? No matter what I do in the settings, I still get the white targeting box/reticle when using HDMI out. Would LOVE some help on this!
Glad you like it thepezdspencer. It sounds like you got your HDMI settings wrong. In your Settings go to Shoot8, select HDMI display and make sure the Camera and the Display logos is selected. This way only a clean HDMI signal will be transmitted.
Hi, I watched several tutorials to solve my problem but nothing works. Your video is very interesting and practically complete for my questions apart from this problem: My Ninja records a little more contrast and saturation than my R5 on its SD card. However, I set the Legalized option to Off. Is there a solution?
Hi Atti Bear, Nice video. Kondor Blue has coil HDMI cables for $19.99 and less firm than Atomos. I have both and prefer Kondor and it’s much cheaper but don’t cut on quality or Atomos just overpriced their cables. Smallrig has straight HDMI cables as well as an micro HDMI male to full HDMI female adapter (if you use a cage)
Amazing video I definitely should upgrade from the EOS R to a newer R5 or R3. If you haven’t can you please do a video on how to get the audio to record on the ninja v I feel like there’s a lot of confusion to it.
Hey! This video is pure gold! Thanks a ton for posting it. Does this work well with EOS R6 as well? Have you tried it personally? No overheating issues when recording longer clips externally on the R6?
Hey Raviteja, thank you I really appreciate it! Unfortunately I weren't able to get my hands on the R6 yet. From what we see of the official Canon recording times the R6 is overheating quicker, but this way it should be able to extend it's recording time significantly. Btw I did create a DIY cooling system that fits the R6 too. Maybe you'll enjoy this one 😉 ruclips.net/video/QkPcYgi1Vbg/видео.html
Maybe a stupid question but I place it anyway. In some blogger video you see that they record the video output plus the screen controls. So you get a recording of say a shooting where you see the model taking poses the eye-af catching the model and then the camera is taking the shot. Is that something you can also record with Atmos.....the video plus the liveview or viewfinder screen controls ?
Hey Christian, you probably mean videos like the ones from froknowsphoto 😉. You need to select in the camera settings whether you want a clean output without menus or one with. Either you won't be able to record both at the same time within the Ninja V, but you could record the view with the menus to the Atomos and record internally what you are filming. This of course only works in Video mode not for Photos.
Helpful video! Thank you! What happens if you have overheat control off via Ninja V, and it overheats? Will it damage the camera? what would be the limit? Or will the camera still automatically shut off itself.
You can't damage the camera this way unlike the sony cameras. Overheat Control only means the camera will decrease resolution while in standby to reduced the load on its internals. The R5 will still automatically turn itself off like usually.
Nice video thank you. My question is about editing , how do you transfer the video from Atomos to a computer or to an external hard drive for editing ?
Yall, I know this is a dumb question but does it automatically record the highest bit rate when I have the monitor plugged in? Also, how do I playback the raw footage on the ninja after I record? For some reason, once I record on my Sony, and try to playback the footage on the ninja, it plays back but it says “Not Raw” I guess I’m just confused if the ninja auto records in the highest quality possible (assuming all my settings are correct) and if it’s recording to the ssd AND my as cards at the same time?
Hey Atti, great video thank you. Do you know if there is a way to trigger external recording of the Ninja V using the R5 shutter button? Or is the only way via the record button? Thanks
Hey DJP you can adjust de function of the Shutter button in the Shooting settings under 📷➡️"Shoot7 ➡️Shutter btn function for movies. This should also trigger external recording if you have set it up correctly.
Would love to see more people talk about overheating issue with the 4K 120fps. But it seems like people are onky interested in the 4K HQ and 8K. I don't do long form video but short clips of music bands performing on stages. So 120fps must always be in hand to match my style of editing in post.
You can record 7:30 minutes long clips in 4k120 (30 minutes limit once turned in 30p) without overheating in firmware 1.1.1 and you can do at least 2 clips like that one after the other. That's over 1 hour of actual footage once slowed down in 24p so I never tested more. When I do short (realistic) clips in 120p (10 sec to 1 minute), there is absolutely no overheating ever. I guess that's why nobody is talking about it.
My question left is: Should I turn legalize off or on when going for the best quality? Your video is super helpful, but I kinda felt this last little point was missing for me.
Great explanation, thank you for sharing! Curious, what HDMI cable (red) are you using? You also had a setup with thick white HDMI cable with adaptor to micro HDMI - and that's the same setup I'm using.. It puts alot of strain on camera's port, I had to 3D print a brace for it and ended up with a bulky contraption :-/
That's true! Using an adapter puts additional stress on the port but it's hard to find a thing light cable with decent quality. The red ones I used in the video I can't recommend anymore. Both of them broke shortly after a few weeks 🙄
@@AttiBear Both of them broke shortly after a few weeks - Ouch.. Thought to try Flat Flexible Cable for drone gimbal but folk are saying that they do not last for long either. Life sucks and only going to get worse until eventually we are all going to die. Like american dream or Santa Claus hope does not exist.
Awesome videos AttiBear! I'm building a FrankenFan today! :) btw: you never mentioned which cables you use, do you have a preference on how to go from Micro HDMI to Full HDMI on the Atomos?
Thanks FilmCrafter 😃. How did your mod go so far? Oh my bad! Here you go geni.us/PfiMoNw Just so know, they look nice but sometimes they have a few quality issues. But when the cables work, they are great 😅
@@AttiBear Thanks! I will report back once my NVMe heatsync fans arrive. Thanks for a great channel and great insights. I used your 3D print files for the NinjaV caddies!
@@AttiBear I'm sending the NVMe fans back. They're nowhere near as effective as that mini fridge Frankenfan! I guess I'll have to shoot without a battery grip in order to get the fan right up against the back of the camera.
They probably weren't as effective cause they are missing a peltier element. You still could swap the heatsink on the peltier element so you can use the battery grip while shooting 😉
@@AttiBear I actually retried it and I think the problem was the fact i had a cf express card in the r5, even though it wasn't being recorded to. Seems to work now haha
Interesting. Maybe it had to do with with your ambient temperature after all. It's mainly measured at the ports and I always make sure not to trigger the recording on the camera so it doesn't record to the cards. But I'm happy for you that it works now 🤓
Hello Attie, I was hoping you can help. I am following these steps the only difference is I shoot using Clog 3 and Cinema Gamut color space. However, the internal footage and footage recorded on the ninja does have a huge colour shift. Do you have any idea why this might be happening? Thanks
Hey Ben, you are not the first one bringing this to my attention. I double checked with my setup, and I don't experience any color shift. What versions are you on? Mine are R5 1.3.1 & NinjaV 10.62.1
@@AttiBear thank you for getting back to me . when I use rec709 color space there is no difference. The problem is when using Cinema Gamut. My firmware is the latest. I found a thread on Reddit and seems it is a issue for other. I have now gone back to rec709 when recording externally.
Thanks so much for this video, I was always wondering why my atomos was recording my xt3 files looking way more contrasty too, btw was wondering have you tried playing back your R5 4k 120 in camera and outputing that signal to the atomos, i think i tried it but there seems to be no signal that is outputted even though the playback should be in 4k 30p ? I don't know whether it was because I had my overheat control mode on at the time and that is why it did not output a signal to the hdmi for me to record that signal onto my atomos, but do lemme know if you have a way to record the 4k 120 playback from camera to a recorder..thanks
The R5 disables the HDMI output while in Playback. The same goes for High Frame Rate recording mode 😕. Also don't forget the R5 does not save files with 120/100 fps natively. Instead it outputs a file with 25fps. I was hoping for a workaround too but didn't have any luck yet.
@@AttiBear hmmmm man, wish there was some kind of workaround for tht , cos I saw Dslr Video Shooter, Caleb Pike , record 120fps during playback on his old Sony Cine cam to a Recorder, so I was trying to see if we could do the same 😅
Thanks a lots for this video. This is one of the most helpful video for user who intend to use Canon EOS R5 to capture 4K video for long period of time👍🏼
I'm not using Lut's for the basic grade. I always do that by hand. However the rec709 LUT you can find in this package does a nice job in my opinion. www.canon-europe.com/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=software&softwaredescriptionid=tcm:13-1331776&os=macos%2010.15%20%28catalina%29&language=en
Did recording in 60fps have a significant effect on the recording time in terms of overheating? I would need to record in 30 and 60fps. Thank you for making the video.
I linked them here in one of the other posts, but I absolutely wouldn't recommend them anymore. Both the cables I had broke within a short amount of time and were unreliable
Hello, thanks for that input. One question, if recording from the Canon EOS R6 to the ninja v. Is it recording IPB or All-I in the ninja v? Or in other words, is there a work around to get All-I to the ninja v instead the R6 only can record IPB internaly?
Hey Matthias, it doesn't matter what recording format you set in the R5/R6. The Atomos is recording your HDMI signal. So you'll have to set your desired recording settings in the Atomos. The IPB and All-I setting isn’t affecting your HDMI Output. Hoffe ich konnte dir damit weiterhelfen 😉
@@AttiBear Ich habe doch noch eine Frage, stellst du im Ninja V bei Audio: 2 Frames Verzögerung ein? Wenn du die Tonspur von der EOS R5 aufnimmst? Gerold Undone empfiehlt es bei der Sony 7s3, damit der Ton wirklich synchron aufgenommen wird.
Naja die Sonys kannst du wirklich nicht mit den Canons vergleichen. Ehrlicherweise hab ich noch nie kontrolliert ob so eine geringe Verzögerung vorliegt. Müsste ich mal ausprobieren.
The R5 uses CFexpress cards. You can't record 4K 120fps to the Atomos so you'll have to have a CFexpress card even though the R5 save 4k 120fps as 4K 25fps file.
Hello, Thank you for the great video. This is by far the best video I've seen on that topic 🙂. I have one question and one problem. The question: with firmware 1.5.0. the "Overheat control" in red menu page 8 is replaced by a "Low resolution stand-by" (translated from the french camera menu): I deactivated it. Do you do the same? The problem: I have now two R5 (with firmware 1.5.0 and exact same video settings) and two Ninja V (well one of them is the new V+) with the exact same WD Blue SSDs. During tests before a shooting with the settings of your video (except I was not in Log), one of the R5 constantly overheated after approximately 50 to 60 minutes. Have you ever heard of that and would you know what is not functioning? Thank you very much in advance, David.
it's hard to say. I noticed sometimes overheating can be cause by the most stupidest little things on set. I'm always making sure to not lock the screen to the body and i keep all the connector seals open, so that additional heat has an easier way of dissipating. How ever it's hard to say, why two same exact cameras behave so differently. Did the latest updates bring any relief?
No you can leave both of them in cause you are triggering the recording on the Atomos. However if you trigger the recording on the R5 with a card inserted make sure you have plenty of space left otherwise it’ll stop the recording once it’s full.
Hey thanks for that video! I'm having some issues with my R5 / Ninja V when recording 4K 60p (59.94p). The Ninja V is dropping frames (skippy icon) which means the recording stops and restarts every 30-50 seconds or so... Sometimes it does work for longer periods of time, sometimes it doesn't. It feels like at buffer (SSD) or HDMI cable issue but I have an AngelBird SSD and an Atomos 4K 60p HDMI 2.0a cable which are absolutely capable of recording this correctly... Formatted the hard drive that didn't change anything. No issue when recording 4K HQ 24p (23.98p)... This is driving me crazy. Any idea what might that be?
Hey Jay sorry just seen your comment here. I had some super weird issues between the R5 and the Ninja V myself. In the end it turned out to be an HDMI Cable issue. The only thing you can do is to switch out one component at a time and see if it fixes your problem. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.
I bought the camera with the 1.1.1 Version Firmware. I assume since my menu screen is showing differently this video was made when the older firmware was active. When I go to make this a trigger for the atomos, there is no 8-bit or 10-bit option on the menu and the trigger doesn't work. Any fix for this to get the trigger working?
The R5 never gave you the option to choose between 8-Bit or 10-Bit. Only the R did. However the trigger for the external recording is set elsewhere. Go to your shooting settings ➡️ Menu 8 ➡️ Time Code ➡️ HDMI ➡️ Rec Command and set it to ON 😉
Great video! Made me subscribe. Can you explain a bit on the da Vinci Resolve comment? Record in LOG/HDR on the ninja and then interpret it as full range in Resolve? When I do that it seems the color space gets smaller not wider?
Hey Atti, i have an important question about this set up. Every time i wake up the r5 screen, it freezes a frame by 1 second to the recording in the ninja. I need to wake up the screen to either check the focus or auto focus pull. we also need to keep the r5 screen off most of the time as thats what causes the r5 to overheat :) do you have any advice on this at all?
I also noticed the frame drop issue, however most people who consume content wont 😅. I created a cooling solution where I can keep the display running and film indefinitely. But that's nothing I'd recommend doing while filming a wedding 😁. Why not just use the Ninja V for focus pulling?
@@AttiBear Tell me more about the cooling solution! :) When you say Nina for focus pulling, do you mean manual focus and using the screen for monitoring?
How do I remove the autofocus overlay from my externally recorded video? When I import my video into premiere pro, I get the eye af square on the subject. Is there a way to disable the overlay graphic or remove the af graphics in post? Also if I have to re lock focus the focus lock graphic appears on my video and gets output to the Atomos as well. Thanks!
Hey Ammer, you need to change your output settings. Go to the Shoot8 Menu, select "HDMI display" and make sure the first setting is selected. otherwise the camera settings are going to be displayed on your HDMI Output.
Thank you I appreciate the response. I finally figured that one out! I was trying to keep the camera display off to minimize the heating of the camera but now I understand that the camera display must be on to show all of the menu items in order to get the clean HDMI out.
For long term recordings you can still let the display turn itself off after a few minutes. If you additionally cool the camera you can record without overheating
I am also getting the frame drop issue. It worked fine for most of the day but then suddenly started recording really juddery footage as if my shutter speed dropped... but it was at 1/50 the whole time?!
Help! Any idea how I can trigger my Ninja V from ...... my Canon C70! I watch your great video but the C70 menu doesn't have a rec command setting. Can you help? Thanks
@@AttiBear thanks for getting back so quickly ! Yes, been wondering round there all afternoon. Tried all sorts. TC In/Out etc. Just nothing, and I know it can be done. On my Fuji X you just switch HDMI rec cmd ON. This is my first even Canoa and been on it 8 days and not taken it out yet!
Wow, Great video ! Really helpful. Im thinking of buying the R5, but hesitating with the C70 that they just announced. I have 3 questions : Do you think the Ninja will eventually be able to record in 8k on the R5 ? And, other than 8K, is 4k fine the absolute best alternative to 8K ? Also, (last question I swear) is prores 422 as good as the native codec on the R5 ?
Hey Simon, if you are looking for a dedicated cinema camera, the C70 is an incredible option. However if you want something more mobile that it is capable of taking incredible stills the R5 is a no brainer. 8K combined with my cooling hack will give you a viable recording time, but put's a significant extra load on your editing gear. 4K Fine recorded on the Atomos on the other hand is recorded in h264 and therefore super easy to edit 😉. Regarding your last question, I don't think the Atomos V will capable of recording 8K. Maybe it's successor will. Let me know if you have further questions ✌️
@@AttiBear Thank you for your message! Legalize is fixed when the factor reset button is pressed on the info tab. I also have an issue with the trigger button and waiting for Atomos customer service to get back on that one.
UPDATE: is this still working for you? I need to rely on this as a b cam for long form interviews...I know I could always use 4K crop for good quality and unlimited external recording, but I’d like to keep both of my cameras in full frame mode for simplicity sake.
@@AttiBear no I meant using the crop mode instead. Apparently 4K in crop mode, recorded externally never overheated AND it’s still oversampled. Just not oversampled as much as the full frame 4K HQ. Thanks for the reply though!
good vide mate! well done! question: I guess one can't get RAw from the R5 using the Atomos right? what would it be the best one can get? 4K 60 or 120...? pro ress Raw? Thank you!
You are right the Ninja can't capture the R5s RAW cause it's in 8K. I'm kinda hoping it'll be available once Canon releases their RAW Light update. Frame Rate wise 4K60 is your highest option. When it comes to quality 4K Fine Recorded in 25fps is the best.
ha, nice way to 'recycle' my old Samsung SSD's :P Nice one, didn't know that the quality via HDMI output was the same.... not sure why some still want to record by expensive 'hot' CFexpress cards.... (and a monitor is always handy).
@@victordelacruz8440 yeah I was thinking of getting it myself. I'm still getting used to R5C though. I'm still trying to figure out where to mount this giant power delivery mobile battery on the black mamba cage.
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No you don't! It's cheaper than buying all the necessary CF Express Cards. You actually save money from the moment you need more than 500GBs of storage.
this is bollox you make such a complicated setup just to save those few quid and get a decent video camera. Interview stand youtube videos this is yeah not that bad but for a complicated shoot useless. Especially gimbal use.
I see it differently. Everybody has their own workflow and needs and there are more than enough reasons to work with an external monitor (easy to work with h264 codecs, false colours, focus peaking, safe zones etc). I for example record mostly on my own when I'm in my studio and i can remotely trigger recording, check my composition, audio levels, focus and light settings without the need to run to my camera after every take. But also this video wasn't about whether you should use an external monitor or not, it was about how to use it properly. Anyhow thank you for your opinion.
Not relevant…why would you record 2h as a video timelapse! Knowing the camera has the timelapse option and won’t hit at all and you can get higher res than 4k!! No one on earth will record a 2h video in 4k and if you are shooting an event a talk show a wedding or whatever believe me you won’t record 4k, if you do you’ll have the budget for broadcast camera that shoot 4k! People should stop doing not true videos cause it’s “trending” and give false info for learning people!!
That's quite the ignorant view. Just because you don't use a feature in a certain way, it doesn't mean other people don't. Also if I want to prove that it works I'll have to show you the actual footage otherwise it never happened and I'm certain you don't want to watch a two hour long video filled with heat readings...
@@AttiBear And if other use it, it doesn't mean they are doing it right, you are giving tips and the right tips for long video (2hours) is to do timelapse otherwise its useless and you know that is true. I did not say that what you said is not true.
@@AttiBear Plus, you are shooting building if you were shooting an actual work of yours like a workshop or anything that needs 2 hours full record in 4k...then i wouldnt be commenting the same. I have shot a 30mins 4k fashion show and recorded internal and it did not heat, actually it never did! Having external recorder have lot of other benefits that can really help others....
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My takeaway is this. For long-form video shooting, you can either buy the R5 + Ninja V + SSD Card + Adapter for around $4600 (in the US) or purchase a Canon C70 for $5500 (C70 uses SD cards). So you save around $900 and have a camera you can also use for still photography. Obviously the C70 has many more bells and whistles like internal NDs and XLR inputs, but if the R5 added C-Log 2 and 3 in a firmware update, it might make the R5 an attractive do-it-all solution for some people.
At this day and age I find SD Cards more and more tedious. Video files are getting so big by now that you just don't want to use SD Cards anymore. The R5 can record to SD too but even with a Sandisk Extreme Pro it just takes for ever to transfer your files. CF Express of course is even faster than an SSD but also way more expensive. So in my opinion SSDs give you the best usability and performance while being the cheapest medium. I even guess that most people won't be using the C70 without an external recorder. Swapping all those SD Cards will become expensive too 😅
Awesome video. I already own an Atomos V which I used with my Sony A7iii, but now definitely switching to Canon EOS R6 now that you removed the last reason I was holding back (overheating in longform shoots). WIth the new firmware 1.1.1, any 4k shooting I do in a run and gun situation will never be long enough to cause overheating. Thanks for making my decision easier!
Glad I could be of assistance Ryan! You'll love this setup. By the way the h264 recording from the Ninja V is also way easier to edit then the h265 footage from the R5 and R6
Wish I watched this video before I bought a CF express card and reader. You make a great point.
Glad it reached you before you bought even more cards 😁. Hopefully it'll help you on future projects
same
Hi thank you for the great video- how do i switch op screen recording on the R5, for the HUD bot to appear on the atomos , thank you
Very instructive video. I have a Canon R5c and I can't manage to send a clean feed on my external monitor. Camera settings are showing on the external monitor. what setting disable it?
What happens if you set the R5 for 8K and external record? Does it prevent you from making that choice?
Thanks for all the info! Great video. I am upgrading to an R5 from an 90D and have been looking at external recording options. I am wondering if you have any advice for recording straight to an ssd without the use of an external monitor? I don’t necessarily need a monitor at the moment, but ssd’s are significantly cheaper than buying expensive CFexpress cards. Thanks for any advice you have and I hope you’re having a good day!
Very good video with lots of useful info! Hey, one tip: You can just say R5, you don’t need to say “EOS R5” all the time. I will make it easier for folks to follow you and it is less stuff for you to say!
Thanks for the tip Anthony 😉! Always happy to help 🙏
Excellent video, but which recording settings did you do in the ninja v? I’m using a canon eos r, but I don’t know which recording mode is better in the ninja v. The HQ or the 422?
Love your channel! What are the best settings for the 5D Mark IV and Ninja V? Thank you!
What happens when recording ProRes Raw on a R5 or R5 C? ProRes Raw is Clog2 with cinema gammut. So it will have the same color issues because it's cinema gammut color space in prores raw? Thank you.
I know this is an old video, but with the release of the the new ninja from atomos, it now has the el zone and arri false colors. The only way to use those is if you turn off the legalize. According to the atomos manual those 2 options are only available for log footage
Great video :) I've always been using Atomos recorders on all my cameras because you just can't work seriously with the tiny monitors on small DSLR bodies, and also my workflow is in ProRes. So the R5 has been the best camera I've ever used because I don't have to think about any potential overheating problems, or deal with the horrible h265.
Thanks Fred! Really appreciate it 😃. You are right I should have mentioned that in the video too. Editing h265 can be quite a pain 😅
Great concise summery Attire Bear. One question. I can't find how you chose between 8 and 10 bit in Clog. Can you please tell me how you got that option? Or I may not be getting that option?
Thanks Eric! The 8 and 10Bit option is only available within the EOS R not the R5. Which one are you using?
Hi Atti, thank you so much for the helpful video. What are the settings to make the R5 camera record button trigger the external recording? I can't seem to make it work. Have a great day.
Hey Alzu, go to your shooting settings ➡️ Menu 8 ➡️ Time Code ➡️ HDMI ➡️ Rec Command and set it to ON 😉
@@AttiBear Thank you so much for taking the time to reply Atti! It works!!
My pleasure 😉
@@AttiBear Any idea if you can record without a CF Express now or do you still have to have it in? And if you do have it in is there a way to only record to the ninja?
Super helpful video thank you! I just got an R5 and am using it to live stream. I have scoured RUclips and cannot find an answer to this: do you know of a way to get a true clean HDMI out when using autofocus? No matter what I do in the settings, I still get the white targeting box/reticle when using HDMI out. Would LOVE some help on this!
Glad you like it thepezdspencer. It sounds like you got your HDMI settings wrong. In your Settings go to Shoot8, select HDMI display and make sure the Camera and the Display logos is selected. This way only a clean HDMI signal will be transmitted.
Can you record 4K 120 with the ninja V?
No thats not possible cause the R5 slows down the footage in post. So the actual files you get are not 120fps they are 25fps
Question. Is the legalize still useful with clog 3?
yes cause the image is still treated the same way.
Hi, I watched several tutorials to solve my problem but nothing works. Your video is very interesting and practically complete for my questions apart from this problem:
My Ninja records a little more contrast and saturation than my R5 on its SD card. However, I set the Legalized option to Off. Is there a solution?
so when I try to record on external monitor only the camera times out, which setting stop the camera from timing out when it's not recording/?
Do you mean the overheating timer or the Camera Standby?
@@AttiBear the standby
So CF Express card slot in the R5 is only for video? You can’t save photos to that card?
No you can save photos and videos to it. But there are recording settings that only allow you you to write them to CF express
great video! which HDMI to micro HDMI cable do you recommend? the atom cable is very expensive
Thanks Andres, at the moment I'm looking for a decent one my self. I'm not a big fan of Spiral Cables either.
Hi Atti Bear,
Nice video. Kondor Blue has coil HDMI cables for $19.99 and less firm than Atomos. I have both and prefer Kondor and it’s much cheaper but don’t cut on quality or Atomos just overpriced their cables.
Smallrig has straight HDMI cables as well as an micro HDMI male to full HDMI female adapter (if you use a cage)
Amazing video I definitely should upgrade from the EOS R to a newer R5 or R3. If you haven’t can you please do a video on how to get the audio to record on the ninja v I feel like there’s a lot of confusion to it.
Thank you for the idea. I'll definitely consider that, cause it certainly can be quite confusing at times.
Hey! This video is pure gold! Thanks a ton for posting it.
Does this work well with EOS R6 as well? Have you tried it personally? No overheating issues when recording longer clips externally on the R6?
Hey Raviteja, thank you I really appreciate it! Unfortunately I weren't able to get my hands on the R6 yet. From what we see of the official Canon recording times the R6 is overheating quicker, but this way it should be able to extend it's recording time significantly. Btw I did create a DIY cooling system that fits the R6 too. Maybe you'll enjoy this one 😉 ruclips.net/video/QkPcYgi1Vbg/видео.html
Thanks for the reply! Yes, I have already watched that video a few days ago. It’s popular after all ;) It’s amazing! Good job!
Haha thanks man! 😅
Maybe a stupid question but I place it anyway. In some blogger video you see that they record the video output plus the screen controls. So you get a recording of say a shooting where you see the model taking poses the eye-af catching the model and then the camera is taking the shot. Is that something you can also record with Atmos.....the video plus the liveview or viewfinder screen controls ?
Hey Christian, you probably mean videos like the ones from froknowsphoto 😉. You need to select in the camera settings whether you want a clean output without menus or one with. Either you won't be able to record both at the same time within the Ninja V, but you could record the view with the menus to the Atomos and record internally what you are filming. This of course only works in Video mode not for Photos.
Very helpful! How did you shortened the SSD, I am wondering!
With my Jigsaw 😉. Here you can see how I did it ➡️ ruclips.net/video/ahLSC9Z90J0/видео.html
My EOS R6 only shows 30 minutes on my ninja SSD with no footage..is that a true readout? Or is it more?
The camera has no idea how much you can record on an external recorder. The time you see on your camera is for the SD card IN your camera 😉
Helpful video! Thank you! What happens if you have overheat control off via Ninja V, and it overheats? Will it damage the camera? what would be the limit? Or will the camera still automatically shut off itself.
You can't damage the camera this way unlike the sony cameras. Overheat Control only means the camera will decrease resolution while in standby to reduced the load on its internals. The R5 will still automatically turn itself off like usually.
so you can record external without any card in the camera so avoid heating?
yes you can 😉
Nice video thank you. My question is about editing , how do you transfer the video from Atomos to a computer or to an external hard drive for editing ?
I'm using this cable here to transfer it directly from the drive to my Macs ➡️geni.us/rogH . From there I can move it to any other device necessary
Quick question what settings do i need to not record internally on Canon R6 while I’m recording on Ninja V?
Easiest way is either to take out the card or trigger recording on the Ninja V 😉
Yall, I know this is a dumb question but does it automatically record the highest bit rate when I have the monitor plugged in?
Also, how do I playback the raw footage on the ninja after I record? For some reason, once I record on my Sony, and try to playback the footage on the ninja, it plays back but it says “Not Raw”
I guess I’m just confused if the ninja auto records in the highest quality possible (assuming all my settings are correct) and if it’s recording to the ssd AND my as cards at the same time?
Hey Atti, great video thank you. Do you know if there is a way to trigger external recording of the Ninja V using the R5 shutter button? Or is the only way via the record button? Thanks
Hey DJP you can adjust de function of the Shutter button in the Shooting settings under 📷➡️"Shoot7 ➡️Shutter btn function for movies. This should also trigger external recording if you have set it up correctly.
@@AttiBear awesome thanks buddy!! 👌🏼
My pleasure 😉
Would love to see more people talk about overheating issue with the 4K 120fps. But it seems like people are onky interested in the 4K HQ and 8K. I don't do long form video but short clips of music bands performing on stages. So 120fps must always be in hand to match my style of editing in post.
You can record 7:30 minutes long clips in 4k120 (30 minutes limit once turned in 30p) without overheating in firmware 1.1.1 and you can do at least 2 clips like that one after the other. That's over 1 hour of actual footage once slowed down in 24p so I never tested more. When I do short (realistic) clips in 120p (10 sec to 1 minute), there is absolutely no overheating ever. I guess that's why nobody is talking about it.
Thanks ! The 8/10bit option is only available with external recorder ?
That options is only available in the EOS R
wait what! how do you enable the ability to trigger external recording from the camera record button?? Mine does not do that...
I'd also like this answer. I've got a Cfexpress inserted and I still can't figure it out.
Go to your shooting settings ➡️ Menu 8 ➡️ Time Code ➡️ HDMI ➡️ Rec Command and set it to ON 😉
@@AttiBear Legend!
Thanks Rhys 😅
Does this then only function with a card in the camera, ultimately giving 30 min record times anyways?
My question left is: Should I turn legalize off or on when going for the best quality? Your video is super helpful, but I kinda felt this last little point was missing for me.
Glad it helped El Boyo. If your Camera is set to LOG then Legalize ✅ otherwise ❌. If you edit in Resolve, you also don't need to enable Legalize.
Do you need to set an audio delay and of how many frames in the Ninja V to keep the audio in sync with the video when using the EOS R5?
Yes 2 frames. The Atomos has a wizard where it automatically detects the delay and sets a corresponding value
Great explanation, thank you for sharing!
Curious, what HDMI cable (red) are you using?
You also had a setup with thick white HDMI cable with adaptor to micro HDMI - and that's the same setup I'm using.. It puts alot of strain on camera's port, I had to 3D print a brace for it and ended up with a bulky contraption :-/
That's true! Using an adapter puts additional stress on the port but it's hard to find a thing light cable with decent quality. The red ones I used in the video I can't recommend anymore. Both of them broke shortly after a few weeks 🙄
@@AttiBear Both of them broke shortly after a few weeks - Ouch.. Thought to try Flat Flexible Cable for drone gimbal but folk are saying that they do not last for long either.
Life sucks and only going to get worse until eventually we are all going to die. Like american dream or Santa Claus hope does not exist.
Awesome videos AttiBear! I'm building a FrankenFan today! :) btw: you never mentioned which cables you use, do you have a preference on how to go from Micro HDMI to Full HDMI on the Atomos?
Thanks FilmCrafter 😃. How did your mod go so far? Oh my bad! Here you go geni.us/PfiMoNw Just so know, they look nice but sometimes they have a few quality issues. But when the cables work, they are great 😅
@@AttiBear Thanks! I will report back once my NVMe heatsync fans arrive. Thanks for a great channel and great insights. I used your 3D print files for the NinjaV caddies!
@@AttiBear I'm sending the NVMe fans back. They're nowhere near as effective as that mini fridge Frankenfan! I guess I'll have to shoot without a battery grip in order to get the fan right up against the back of the camera.
They probably weren't as effective cause they are missing a peltier element. You still could swap the heatsink on the peltier element so you can use the battery grip while shooting 😉
Can anyone help. My Overheat Control option has disappeared from the menu (tab 8 ) thanks,
Hi there, I've followed all your steps but for some reason the R5 still overheats in 4k fine after 45 minutes? Do you know why this might be? Thanks!
Whats your ambient temperature and how does your setup look like?
@@AttiBear I actually retried it and I think the problem was the fact i had a cf express card in the r5, even though it wasn't being recorded to. Seems to work now haha
Interesting. Maybe it had to do with with your ambient temperature after all. It's mainly measured at the ports and I always make sure not to trigger the recording on the camera so it doesn't record to the cards. But I'm happy for you that it works now 🤓
What is the best settings for external recording with Canon Eos R5C & Ninja V+ ?
Hello Attie, I was hoping you can help. I am following these steps the only difference is I shoot using Clog 3 and Cinema Gamut color space. However, the internal footage and footage recorded on the ninja does have a huge colour shift. Do you have any idea why this might be happening?
Thanks
Hey Ben, you are not the first one bringing this to my attention. I double checked with my setup, and I don't experience any color shift. What versions are you on? Mine are R5 1.3.1 & NinjaV 10.62.1
@@AttiBear thank you for getting back to me . when I use rec709 color space there is no difference. The problem is when using Cinema Gamut. My firmware is the latest. I found a thread on Reddit and seems it is a issue for other. I have now gone back to rec709 when recording externally.
Thanks so much for this video, I was always wondering why my atomos was recording my xt3 files looking way more contrasty too, btw was wondering have you tried playing back your R5 4k 120 in camera and outputing that signal to the atomos, i think i tried it but there seems to be no signal that is outputted even though the playback should be in 4k 30p ? I don't know whether it was because I had my overheat control mode on at the time and that is why it did not output a signal to the hdmi for me to record that signal onto my atomos, but do lemme know if you have a way to record the 4k 120 playback from camera to a recorder..thanks
The R5 disables the HDMI output while in Playback. The same goes for High Frame Rate recording mode 😕. Also don't forget the R5 does not save files with 120/100 fps natively. Instead it outputs a file with 25fps. I was hoping for a workaround too but didn't have any luck yet.
@@AttiBear hmmmm man, wish there was some kind of workaround for tht , cos I saw Dslr Video Shooter, Caleb Pike , record 120fps during playback on his old Sony Cine cam to a Recorder, so I was trying to see if we could do the same 😅
Thanks a lots for this video. This is one of the most helpful video for user who intend to use Canon EOS R5 to capture 4K video for long period of time👍🏼
Thanks Daniel you are too kind! Really hope this one helps you on your endeavour 😉
What about official clog luts? Im not very happy with canon provided luts, wich one do you usually use to turn it into rec709? thanks!
I'm not using Lut's for the basic grade. I always do that by hand. However the rec709 LUT you can find in this package does a nice job in my opinion. www.canon-europe.com/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=software&softwaredescriptionid=tcm:13-1331776&os=macos%2010.15%20%28catalina%29&language=en
Did recording in 60fps have a significant effect on the recording time in terms of overheating? I would need to record in 30 and 60fps.
Thank you for making the video.
Hey Raj, yes. With 50fps the R5 overheated after a while. At 25fps I was able to record without limitation.
@@AttiBear how much is a while
Witch cable to connect Ninja V to eos R6?
I switched to this brand for almost all of my camera HDMI cables. They never failed me on a shoot like the red ones I used in the video ➡️geni.us/jpTt
what's the Red HDMI mini cable that you use?
I linked them here in one of the other posts, but I absolutely wouldn't recommend them anymore. Both the cables I had broke within a short amount of time and were unreliable
Hello, thanks for that input. One question, if recording from the Canon EOS R6 to the ninja v. Is it recording IPB or All-I in the ninja v? Or in other words, is there a work around to get All-I to the ninja v instead the R6 only can record IPB internaly?
Hey Matthias, it doesn't matter what recording format you set in the R5/R6. The Atomos is recording your HDMI signal. So you'll have to set your desired recording settings in the Atomos. The IPB and All-I setting isn’t affecting your HDMI Output. Hoffe ich konnte dir damit weiterhelfen 😉
@@AttiBear Ja, danke. 🙂
@@AttiBear Ich habe doch noch eine Frage, stellst du im Ninja V bei Audio: 2 Frames Verzögerung ein? Wenn du die Tonspur von der EOS R5 aufnimmst? Gerold Undone empfiehlt es bei der Sony 7s3, damit der Ton wirklich synchron aufgenommen wird.
Naja die Sonys kannst du wirklich nicht mit den Canons vergleichen. Ehrlicherweise hab ich noch nie kontrolliert ob so eine geringe Verzögerung vorliegt. Müsste ich mal ausprobieren.
@@AttiBear Das wäre dir bestimmt aufgefallen, wenn dem so wäre. Danke für die Rückmeldung.
Does face tracking and AF still work with the external monitor?
Yes it does 🤓
@@AttiBear Awesome, does 4k 120 also work with the external monitor or do you need a CFast card for that?
The R5 uses CFexpress cards. You can't record 4K 120fps to the Atomos so you'll have to have a CFexpress card even though the R5 save 4k 120fps as 4K 25fps file.
Can you record MP4 to ninja V?
Thanks for the helpful video. What is that red HDMI cable you are using?
Those are from LinkinPerk. They look nice and if they are great, but they have massive quality issues
Hello, Thank you for the great video. This is by far the best video I've seen on that topic 🙂.
I have one question and one problem.
The question: with firmware 1.5.0. the "Overheat control" in red menu page 8 is replaced by a "Low resolution stand-by" (translated from the french camera menu): I deactivated it. Do you do the same?
The problem: I have now two R5 (with firmware 1.5.0 and exact same video settings) and two Ninja V (well one of them is the new V+) with the exact same WD Blue SSDs. During tests before a shooting with the settings of your video (except I was not in Log), one of the R5 constantly overheated after approximately 50 to 60 minutes. Have you ever heard of that and would you know what is not functioning?
Thank you very much in advance,
David.
it's hard to say. I noticed sometimes overheating can be cause by the most stupidest little things on set. I'm always making sure to not lock the screen to the body and i keep all the connector seals open, so that additional heat has an easier way of dissipating.
How ever it's hard to say, why two same exact cameras behave so differently. Did the latest updates bring any relief?
Do you need to take out the memory cards in the camera to be able to record unlimited using the R5 + NINJAV combo?
No you can leave both of them in cause you are triggering the recording on the Atomos. However if you trigger the recording on the R5 with a card inserted make sure you have plenty of space left otherwise it’ll stop the recording once it’s full.
Hey thanks for that video!
I'm having some issues with my R5 / Ninja V when recording 4K 60p (59.94p). The Ninja V is dropping frames (skippy icon) which means the recording stops and restarts every 30-50 seconds or so... Sometimes it does work for longer periods of time, sometimes it doesn't. It feels like at buffer (SSD) or HDMI cable issue but I have an AngelBird SSD and an Atomos 4K 60p HDMI 2.0a cable which are absolutely capable of recording this correctly... Formatted the hard drive that didn't change anything.
No issue when recording 4K HQ 24p (23.98p)...
This is driving me crazy. Any idea what might that be?
Hey Jay sorry just seen your comment here. I had some super weird issues between the R5 and the Ninja V myself. In the end it turned out to be an HDMI Cable issue. The only thing you can do is to switch out one component at a time and see if it fixes your problem. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.
Can we shoot 100 frames in ninja v? Thanks in advance
Unfortunately no. The 5D deactivates the HDMI output in high frame rate recording mode.
I bought the camera with the 1.1.1 Version Firmware. I assume since my menu screen is showing differently this video was made when the older firmware was active. When I go to make this a trigger for the atomos, there is no 8-bit or 10-bit option on the menu and the trigger doesn't work. Any fix for this to get the trigger working?
The R5 never gave you the option to choose between 8-Bit or 10-Bit. Only the R did. However the trigger for the external recording is set elsewhere. Go to your shooting settings ➡️ Menu 8 ➡️ Time Code ➡️ HDMI ➡️ Rec Command and set it to ON 😉
@@AttiBear Thanks!
Great video! Made me subscribe.
Can you explain a bit on the da Vinci Resolve comment? Record in LOG/HDR on the ninja and then interpret it as full range in Resolve? When I do that it seems the color space gets smaller not wider?
Hey Atti, i have an important question about this set up. Every time i wake up the r5 screen, it freezes a frame by 1 second to the recording in the ninja. I need to wake up the screen to either check the focus or auto focus pull. we also need to keep the r5 screen off most of the time as thats what causes the r5 to overheat :) do you have any advice on this at all?
I also noticed the frame drop issue, however most people who consume content wont 😅. I created a cooling solution where I can keep the display running and film indefinitely. But that's nothing I'd recommend doing while filming a wedding 😁. Why not just use the Ninja V for focus pulling?
@@AttiBear Tell me more about the cooling solution! :) When you say Nina for focus pulling, do you mean manual focus and using the screen for monitoring?
Thank you so much for all these awesome tips, they helped me a lot! Just ordered your caddy, looking forward to using it!
Thanks man! Really appreciate your support 🙏. Your Caddie will be on it's way tomorrow 😉
How do I remove the autofocus overlay from my externally recorded video? When I import my video into premiere pro, I get the eye af square on the subject. Is there a way to disable the overlay graphic or remove the af graphics in post? Also if I have to re lock focus the focus lock graphic appears on my video and gets output to the Atomos as well. Thanks!
Hey Ammer, you need to change your output settings. Go to the Shoot8 Menu, select "HDMI display" and make sure the first setting is selected. otherwise the camera settings are going to be displayed on your HDMI Output.
Thank you I appreciate the response. I finally figured that one out! I was trying to keep the camera display off to minimize the heating of the camera but now I understand that the camera display must be on to show all of the menu items in order to get the clean HDMI out.
For long term recordings you can still let the display turn itself off after a few minutes. If you additionally cool the camera you can record without overheating
noticing major frame drop or some kind of recording issues if the camera LCD turns on / off during recording to the atomos v. have you noticed this?
I've tried both multiple times and never noticed anything like that, so you are good to go 😃
I am also getting the frame drop issue. It worked fine for most of the day but then suddenly started recording really juddery footage as if my shutter speed dropped... but it was at 1/50 the whole time?!
Wow! Great job! Was very helpful for a newbie:-)
Always happy to help 😉
Help! Any idea how I can trigger my Ninja V from ...... my Canon C70! I watch your great video but the C70 menu doesn't have a rec command setting. Can you help? Thanks
Congrats on the C70 😉. Did you also check the Timecode menu? The R5 also hides it in there
@@AttiBear thanks for getting back so quickly ! Yes, been wondering round there all afternoon. Tried all sorts. TC In/Out etc. Just nothing, and I know it can be done. On my Fuji X you just switch HDMI rec cmd ON. This is my first even Canoa and been on it 8 days and not taken it out yet!
Just checked the manual of the C70 on page 129. It says it can be found under Menu ➡️ Recording / Media Setup ➡️ Rec Command. Hope this one helps 😉
@@AttiBear many thanks for direction. Page 4 I can see, but greyed out. Hmmmm I wonder why?
Try to enable the Timecode output first
Does the ninja v have a time-lapse feature?
unfortunately not, but you can turn you recording into one later in post.
Wow, Great video ! Really helpful. Im thinking of buying the R5, but hesitating with the C70 that they just announced. I have 3 questions : Do you think the Ninja will eventually be able to record in 8k on the R5 ? And, other than 8K, is 4k fine the absolute best alternative to 8K ? Also, (last question I swear) is prores 422 as good as the native codec on the R5 ?
Hey Simon, if you are looking for a dedicated cinema camera, the C70 is an incredible option. However if you want something more mobile that it is capable of taking incredible stills the R5 is a no brainer. 8K combined with my cooling hack will give you a viable recording time, but put's a significant extra load on your editing gear. 4K Fine recorded on the Atomos on the other hand is recorded in h264 and therefore super easy to edit 😉. Regarding your last question, I don't think the Atomos V will capable of recording 8K. Maybe it's successor will. Let me know if you have further questions ✌️
@@AttiBear Thank you ! Ill be getting the C70 cause I wanna shoot on a more professional level. Thanks again for the answer
Thanks sir
You are welcome 😃
why does it downgrade footage from the camera at 4k 60 to 1080p 60 on the eos R5
Hey Jose, go to the yellow menu, Number 4 and set "HDMI resolution" to Auto instead of 1080p. Also make sure Overheat control is set to off
Help. My camera shuts off or goes into sleep mode interrupting my recording into the Atomos ninja V. How do I fix this?
You need to turn off the cameras sleep mode. The display can go to sleep and the autofocus and such will continue to work 😉
@@AttiBear how do you turn off the sleep mode?
hi can you record unlimited 4k 60fps on the
Can you record in 4K120 and 60 on the atomos?
4k60 yes. 4k120 no since the EOS R5 saves 120fps at 4K 25fps
Can you record 4k 120 on Ninja?
No it doesn't support the way how the R5 handles 120fps
@@AttiBear Thank your response.
How about 4k 60?
4K60 is absolutely no problem
Can you record 8k RAW with this setup?
Not right now. Maybe once Canon announces their RAW light Codec.
Legalise did not turn on when I turned of camera output do you please know why?
Is your Ninja V on OS 10.3? Actually the latest ist 10.54 at the Moment
@@AttiBear Thanks very much for your message and yes I do have the 10.54 Legalize only turns on when I turn on HDR next to it, is that normal?
hmm that sounds strange. Never had that constellation before. Have you tried it with another camera?
@@AttiBear Thank you for your message! Legalize is fixed when the factor reset button is pressed on the info tab. I also have an issue with the trigger button and waiting for Atomos customer service to get back on that one.
UPDATE: is this still working for you? I need to rely on this as a b cam for long form interviews...I know I could always use 4K crop for good quality and unlimited external recording, but I’d like to keep both of my cameras in full frame mode for simplicity sake.
Hey Jason, yes it still works 🤓. Btw the R5 isn't cropping in. 4K Fine samples down a full frame 5K image so no issues there 😉
@@AttiBear no I meant using the crop mode instead. Apparently 4K in crop mode, recorded externally never overheated AND it’s still oversampled. Just not oversampled as much as the full frame 4K HQ. Thanks for the reply though!
Fantastic! I don't know why it doesn't get more views.
Thanks Chris 😃. RUclips sometimes just takes it's time 😉
Great stuff! Well done, very helpful
Glad you enjoyed it! What helped you the most?
Great review and info!
Thank Kai! Glad you found it helpful 😃
@@AttiBear my Ninja V will be here in a week. My R5 is actually drooling.
good vide mate! well done! question: I guess one can't get RAw from the R5 using the Atomos right? what would it be the best one can get? 4K 60 or 120...? pro ress Raw? Thank you!
You are right the Ninja can't capture the R5s RAW cause it's in 8K. I'm kinda hoping it'll be available once Canon releases their RAW Light update. Frame Rate wise 4K60 is your highest option. When it comes to quality 4K Fine Recorded in 25fps is the best.
ha, nice way to 'recycle' my old Samsung SSD's :P
Nice one, didn't know that the quality via HDMI output was the same.... not sure why some still want to record by expensive 'hot' CFexpress cards.... (and a monitor is always handy).
Well said Jan Peter 😉
Very interesting video. Great job.
P.S.: I got it right. 4K looked a tiny bit softer than 4K fine.
P.P.S.: And now I'm struggling even more 😉
Haha I told you the decision will get even harder after this one 😅. You Sir get one Point fore scoring the correct answer 😁
@@AttiBear Yeeehaaa😁
Does the autofocus still works with the Ninja V ?
Good question! Yes it does 😃
Why all people uses the Dummy Battery? You just can plugin the USB-C and get power 4 ever (Even with some Power Banks...)
True you can do that, but the R5 is know to generate more heat when it's charging through USB-C so you are compromising recording time.
@@AttiBear I know. but in 4K HQ i got no problems (even after 2-3h external Atomos)
Does the Atmos Ninja 5 do 8K? Lol
If you don't know this. It does 6k with the firmware update.
@@victordelacruz8440 yeah that's why I was saying how did he shoot 8k
@@PizzlesTechTime I think my sell my Ninja V 6K and upgrade to the Ninja V+ 8K for my R5 C.
@@victordelacruz8440 yeah I was thinking of getting it myself. I'm still getting used to R5C though. I'm still trying to figure out where to mount this giant power delivery mobile battery on the black mamba cage.
@@PizzlesTechTime same setup here too!
SmallRig has a compact base with v mount that rotating and add-on of rods and chest pad. It checks off the box for battery holder but the rods and the arca-swiss not sure about it. Might visit B&H and test it on position.
Problem is more of my pods are Manfrotto heads and other 3x Manfrotto quick release. 😂 I'm like Arca-Swiss is alright but you know there's so many options besides that.
That's dilemma though
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Hey buddy, thanks for your order 🙏. Here you go geni.us/PfiMoNw Just so you know, the cables look nice, but their quality isn't the best. But if they work they are great 😃
Thank you for this
My pleasure! Hope you can make good use of this Tutorial 😃. Btw you got some great content over there 😉
@@AttiBear hey thank you my friend for your kind words, much appreciated.
So by using you affiliated link for purchase.... ;) SSDs ➡️ geni.us/BmHgzOf the 1TB and 2 TB western digital SSD will work just fine for the Atomos Ninja?
Hey Joe, the PCB in the 1TB and 2TB models is too big. They can not be modded right now.
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yeah but we hav to spend more money
No you don't! It's cheaper than buying all the necessary CF Express Cards. You actually save money from the moment you need more than 500GBs of storage.
this is bollox you make such a complicated setup just to save those few quid and get a decent video camera. Interview stand youtube videos this is yeah not that bad but for a complicated shoot useless. Especially gimbal use.
I see it differently. Everybody has their own workflow and needs and there are more than enough reasons to work with an external monitor (easy to work with h264 codecs, false colours, focus peaking, safe zones etc). I for example record mostly on my own when I'm in my studio and i can remotely trigger recording, check my composition, audio levels, focus and light settings without the need to run to my camera after every take. But also this video wasn't about whether you should use an external monitor or not, it was about how to use it properly. Anyhow thank you for your opinion.
Not relevant…why would you record 2h as a video timelapse! Knowing the camera has the timelapse option and won’t hit at all and you can get higher res than 4k!!
No one on earth will record a 2h video in 4k and if you are shooting an event a talk show a wedding or whatever believe me you won’t record 4k, if you do you’ll have the budget for broadcast camera that shoot 4k!
People should stop doing not true videos cause it’s “trending” and give false info for learning people!!
That's quite the ignorant view. Just because you don't use a feature in a certain way, it doesn't mean other people don't. Also if I want to prove that it works I'll have to show you the actual footage otherwise it never happened and I'm certain you don't want to watch a two hour long video filled with heat readings...
@@AttiBear And if other use it, it doesn't mean they are doing it right, you are giving tips and the right tips for long video (2hours) is to do timelapse otherwise its useless and you know that is true. I did not say that what you said is not true.
@@AttiBear Plus, you are shooting building if you were shooting an actual work of yours like a workshop or anything that needs 2 hours full record in 4k...then i wouldnt be commenting the same. I have shot a 30mins 4k fashion show and recorded internal and it did not heat, actually it never did! Having external recorder have lot of other benefits that can really help others....