Thanks for this video you saved me!! I was able to record audio directly to my camera while Ninja was recording and I believe it was sending the audio via HDMI cord. Both of my cameras were able to obtain the audio that way GH5 and Canon 5D IV so I'm happy I found your video and discovered this before the event I'm about to shoot! Thanks
I feel you, Chris. I went through some similar learning when I first got my Deity microphone. It taught me a lot about TRS and TRRS cables, powered jacks, and extension cords. By the time I started working with timecode devices through the mic jack, though, the learning came in handy. Essentially, there is no real standard on how that extra ring on TRRS cables are implemented (Apple devices are the WORST about this). When a mic tries to do something useful with it, like the Deity in sensing when the camera's on, that usefulness goes out the window if the mic isn't plugged directly into the mic jack. You'll notice these complications if you use an external audio recorder like, in my case, a Zoom F6. Anyway, thanks for documenting your experience for other creators' benefit.
Absolutely - and I have to agree. The Deity - for me - was the worst experience though. With the F6 however I am now having less problems - but that’s probably because I also have a much better understanding of plug-in power, phantom power, and when to use a normal aux/TRA cable vs. a TRRS one.
@@ChrisSpiegl Where I got burned with the cable differences was when I was on the set of a livestream and I plugged a lav mic into my Rode Wireless GO without the TRS adapter. The lav was TRRS and the GO only likes TRS. I lost the host's audio completely. 😭Luckily, I had the Deity as a backup on Camera A and was able to boost the gain enough to hobble along. Gotta tell ya, having that manual gain saved my bacon.
@@enidrajm sounds like you were using a Ride SmartLav or something similar. And I know the struggle. My partner does yoga videos on RUclips and live and uses the Wireless Go with the SmartLav and the TRRS to TRS adapter. Ideally we would get a straight TRS lav at some point. But for now the SmartLav works great. Two things I have learned with these “complications” and “miss hab’s” is to check my gear before I go live or on set. Test the exact configuration - ideally a few days before you need it. That way you may even be able to order or purchase the missing link if there is one.
I have found that every time you change something within your workflow, it has the knack to bite you the ass (referencing the static you encountered). I’m not perfect but I do try to test the change before a professional shoot. Great advice, thank you!
Thanks Chris. I found out the hard way. I normally plug my Rode Video Mic into my camera, but this time I figured I'd plug it straight into the Ninja V. I was in a hurry, so I didn't check it. It didn't work at all! Also, I just purchased a Deity S-Mic 2 and was wondering whether it would go straight into the Ninja V. The answer is "no", according to your video, as the Ninja V does not supply the required 48V (or 24V) phantom power. It's fine, as I have a pre-amp box that provides phantom power, but not quite as portable. Anyway, thanks again!
Hey Living Tech, yes, totally feel you. I also found out the hard way. 😅 but important thing about powering / switching the mics: these types of mics don’t need phantom power (12-48v) but Plugin power (2-5v). If you provide them with phantom power they may break. However, what you can do is use a stereo breakout cable to connect them both to the camera. 👌
@@ChrisSpiegl WOW! I totally missed that. Yes, I did hear you say "it probably needs power", and I now understand that you did not mean phantom power. I'd better listen more accurately next time! So, I'm guessing that my powered Beachtek pre-amp will take care of the 2-5V power then, so I can plug the Rode video mic straight into the preamp and all will be OK? I've subbed to your channel. Please check out mine, in case there's anything of interest there to you (TESLA, Photography/Videography gear (Beachtek pre-amp review coming), DIY Engineering/Tech projects, etc.). ruclips.net/user/livingtech Thanks for all your help here. Golden! :)
@@livingtech1407 yes - the thing is at the Time of making this video I hadn’t understood the difference between phantom lower and plug in power. 😅 it was a few weeks after that I learned that when discussing the Rode VXLR and Rode VXLR+ difference. But I’m glad you seem to have a solution for your setup. I also checked out your channel. Some good stuff and amazing tech to make videos about. I like the whole teleprompter video. I am considering looking into that for some different purposes - inspired by Caleb from DSLR Video Shooter. Will see how that goes. But always buying new gear to make videos is a bit tricky when trying to also be able to live off of the RUclips content. 😅 it’s a journey. 👌
@@ChrisSpiegl To avoid confusion, I'll tell you that I inadvertently logged in to the wrong email account above (LivingTech9@gmail.com, instead of my actual Living TECH account). Anyway, yes, for sure. I've nailed down my solution. The thing that confused me is that I could have sworn that I have used the Rode Video Mic in my Ninja V before. However, I'm obviously wrong. My wife and I are starting a YT channel for her Whole Foods Cooking, and I took exceptionally great video, using a Sony A7RIII, Sony A7RIV and A92, all G Master lenses, all mostly tack-sharp focus, perfect lighting, etc. So, I was disappointed to hear that the audio didn't match the quality. I'll have this nailed once I receive my new gear and practice for a few hours. :)
@@LivingTech Great to hear. I would love to chat sometime. I'll put you on my list of people to potentially have a interview-style conversation with. Look out for an email sometime these coming weeks.
Glad I’ve seen this. Got my ninja V on the way and was planning on running tests on the vmic direct to the ninja. I might try a couple of other was more direct isn’t a possibility. 1st is through the camera of course. 2nd will be into a h4n and then use the out into the ninja.
Glad you found this video and happy that you got this upgrade - it's absolutely worth it to run this great small recorder / monitor. In terms of mic setup, I would recommend to just go through the camera as it's the easiest no hassle method and just use the line/mic in on the Atomos if you need an additional line for mics.
My dear friend I have been trying to get audio to record on my Ninja V + and it won't using a Sony ECM-MS2Microphone going through the XLR-H1 handle on my Sony ILME-FX30 for 5 weeks Atomos is helping me but they cant resolve this issue maybe you can help? THX
I am experiencing static on the HDMI input 😮. When I move the headphone slider I hear static too. The line input is clean though. Any thoughts? I tried two different HDMI cables and same thing. Great tips Chris. Thanks
Why do you need an extra Mic when you can get sound from the hdmi to camera signals? No shade just curious. I plug my Rode Go ii right into my Sony fx3. The Ninja V is plugged into the fx3 too! I get sound to my sd card and to the ninja v ssd external…
That is correct, but what if you have a mic like the VideoMic NTG on top of the camera and additionally you have the Wireless Go II to have a secondary mic on the talent? That's when it can be really usefull. Another use-case would be when you have your camera audio as a backup and you use an audio recorder and connect the line out to the Atomos Ninja V to simply have it there for easy sync / backup as well.
If you come from the 80th: Ninja audio IN is just a simple input like compact cassette recorder from the past. Just for mics like that from the 80th. No power, no phantom voltage, no TRRS. By the way: TRRS is more an iPhone thing than the video world.
Pretty much. And the TRRS: with mics like the VideoMic NTG it’s a “both kinds of devices” thing. Since the VideoMic NTG senses if it’s connected to a smartphone or camera. And it is the default cable for this mic.
I don't know why it can not record audio from my PC. But it records audio from my MacBook pro. Internal audio from A73 is not recorded but the mic on top of A73 can be recorded. Maybe the cable matters.
My Atomos ninja recorded the video with the green peak focus lines embedded in the video. Am I not able to use focus peaking in the main camera without Atomos embedding the green lines in the recorded footage?
I have never had anything being embedded into my file when recording it with the atomos. May sound obvious, but are you sure the peak line was not output by the camera instead of done by the atomos? That's the only idea I can come up with that could result in that kind of result.
@@Ingrid_Abrams Well, you can use the peak focus on the Atomos then. And the other thing would be to see if the camera could disable the output of the peak focusing?
I have the deity d3 pro and ninja v, so i just have to plug it in to the camera so it can works right? And then the hdmi cable will send the audio signal and récord it to the ninja?? Thank you soo much for your video :)
That is correct. Plugged into the Ninja the Deity D3 Pro will not turn on. But plugged into the camera you can send the signal through HDMI and record it that way. Works just like normal 💪.
Hi, I don't have experience with this mic but looking at it I would not expect it to work with the Atomos Ninja V because it is a XLR based microphone. I'd hook it up to an audio recorder and then maybe connect the Line out of the audio recorder to the Ninja V?
Hi Abul, a normal line out like the Zoom H6 provides works perfectly well, since a line out does not expect any power from the destination device like some microphones do. I have tested this with the Zoom H5 and that was without any issues.
Two thoughts: 1) are you trying to hear the audio in VLC or a similar video player? You may not hear the audio if it's on channels 3 and 4. So make sure to bring the footage into Premiere Pro or something similar. You may still have the audio it just is on the channels 3 and 4 which usually are not played back in standard video players. 2) Could also have been that the Audio channels were not activated to record on the NINJA. To make sure the audio channels are recording, go to the Settings on the Ninja under "Meters" (you can also touch the top right hand side where the audio levels are displayed) and you'll land there as well. Once there you have all the audio levels and the best is to activate the first three "REC" buttons. I hope it's #1 and that you still have some sound. Good luck and let me know.
I’ve never tried using the input , but if you use the input does this give your file a extra audio clip for that video? So you technically can have 2 files of audio? One from the camera and one from the external input in?
Yes, that is exactly what you can do with this. Two channels come through on HDMI and then you have another 2 channels via this input. Note that you don't get extra files and when you preview the file you might just hear the HDMI channels. But in programs like Premiere Pro and DavinciResolve you will get either 2 stereo tracks or even 4 mono depending on the setup.
I actually recently upgraded to the Zoom F6 as well and yes, on the Atomos you can set a setting wether your audio signal coming in on the mini klinke is Line or Mic level. So you can send the Zoom Audio into the Atomos with no problem. I will make a video about that soon as well.
@@sobk718 I am sure the MicPre is an awesome recorder as well. And yes - if you’re looking to feed the line out into the Atomos it works by setting the input on the Atomos to Line (-10db). 🌸
Does this apply to iPhone? I was told by Rode that I need to use an SC1 cable (TRSS to TRSS) into iPhone and a SC7 cable (TRSS to TRS) into the videomic NTG
Not really, for the iPhone you only need an adapter from Lightning to TRRS and then this mic automatically detects the correct format. That is because the iPhone is sending Plug In power and the VideoMic NTG has the logic to detect that.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thanks Chris. Do you get any sort of interference with it being such a long cable? I’m wondering if the shorter SC9 would work by itself, it’s a TRRS to TRSS cable
@@TheGrumpyExplorer I have not used it intensely with the iPhone so I don’t know for sure. But I’d guess you’ll be fine for the most part. Maybe go into airplane mode if you want to be extra save.
Is it possible to connect Tentacle Sync in the Mic/Line port of the Ninja V and record audio TC? Or does it somehow mess up when you have to use offsets with cameras?
Of course you can use this method. However, you will have to make sure that the sync offset is set correctly (or you have to do the offset later in post). Otherwise your timecode will not be in sync with the HDMI signal. Luckily, the offset sync is really easy with a TRS & HDMI Cable.
hey cris, how can you send the audio to the ninja v. im have connected the mic into the camera but i cant find the way to send the audio to the ninja v. thanks so much
The audio will usually be sent over HDMI and in the audio settings of the Ninja V you then can select which channels should be recorded. So two places to check: 1) make sure your camera has the mic leveled correctly and also outputs the sound via HDMI (not sure which camera you use, that's why I am mentioning it). 2) touch the audio meter on the Ninja and go to the "Meters" settings. There you will see multiple audio channels and you can most likely activate 3 buttons below the volume indicators. Activate all 3 and see which one gives you the camera audio signal. That should give you the signal and ability to record your mic correctly. If you have more questions, please feel free to reach out.
@@francarcamo I can't quite speak for the 5Ds since I have never used it. But I found this article which could mean that the 5Ds just does not have a clean HDMI out and thus also does not provide the audio signal over HDMI - possibly. I hope that you can figure something out but you may just have to look for an alternative camera to use with the Atomos Ninja V. The 5Ds does not seem to be a very good video camera. Again, I am only judging based on this article I just found. www.eoshd.com/news/canon-5ds-takes-a-backwards-step-for-video-why-is-canon-so-baffling/
I think the H4n Pro probably has a Line Out port and that would mean it does work. I am actually using the Line out from my Zoom F6 a lot to record that into the Mic/Line in of the Atomos Ninja V.
Thanks man! How would you rate the Ninja v preamps vs say in camera preamps (ex nikon z6 ii)? And most importantly, @9:00 do we need male to female trs 3.5 mm cable to then plug to Male to male trs extension cable?
Thanks for your comment. My thoughts: 1) I have not compared the preamps in detail. However my feeling is the ones in the Atomos are cleaner. 2) if you use an extension cord, yes, a TRS male to female and then a TRS male to male would work. However you - of course - could also use a really long male to male TRS cable. Happy shooting. 👌
So I have the Røde NTG hooked up to the Ninja V but all I get is one (right) channel. I tried the TRRS cable that comes with it but als several TRS cables. I only get one channel (mono). Also on my Z7 camera, same thing. Now since it is a mono mic it might be okay but I was wondering if you have the same problem or my unit is defective…. Thanks for your help!
I get a signal on both channels and when using the Røde VideoMic NTG in Safety-Track-Mode, then I also get both signal strength recorded (and displayed in the metering). Not sure what may be going on with your mic.
@@ChrisSpiegl Dear Curtis, thanks so much for your answer! I was suspecting something is wrong, since I couldn’t find anything on that matter! I’ll return it and get me another, since the sound quality per se is great for what it is. Thanks again for taking your time!🙏
@@andreathode3782 You're welcome, I hope you get a working one setup 👍. P.S.: just to clarify, I'm Chris not Curtis - although Curtis is a great creator as well, if you are thinking about Curtis Judd 🙈.
Hey bro! I got the Rode VC1 3.5mm TRS Microphone Extension Cable for Cameras (10') ROVC1 and sometimes it works perfect other times my NTG mic powers off and makes this terrible nasty noise that completely destroys the sound. Most of the time I record while looking up at the mic to make sure it’s still on and didn’t power off due to the extension cable. Before it shuts down the noise in the video during post is extremely staticky and intolerable. I need a solution 😔
@@priestlygarments4004 and you are using the Rode VideoMic NTG? Then with the cables you are talking about it should not “randomly” turn itself off. But when it does it makes sense that it would make a strange sound. I’m not sure what you may have going on… are you turning the mic on manually? Is the camera constantly recording or starting and stopping? Does the mic turn on automatically when your camera is in video shooting mode?
@@ChrisSpiegl no I didn’t manually turn it on . It turns on automatically when recording! But I only have this issue when using an extension cable unfortunately. Yes I’m using the Rode VideoMic NTG
@@priestlygarments4004 that is strange. I have used my VideoMic NTG with extension cables as well and it did not turn off by itself. Maybe if you turn the mic on manually it would stay on? Worth a try I’d say. Or contacting the Rode support team.
I recently did a video shoot & had my Rode Wireless Go mic plugged in directly to the atomos ninja v. The only issue is there’s no sound whenever I try playing them in preview on my Mac. How do I fix the audio settings on my atomos to prevent this in the future?
The issue with no sound in preview is that the atomos saves the audio channels as 4 audio channels and preview only plays back the first two as a stereo signal. In the video editing program you probably do have the 4 tracks available. I currently can't confirm this, but an idea: if you disable the recording of the HDMI audio tracks, and only enable the internal Atomos Line/Mic port, then it could be that you end up with 2 channels only and those would then be played back by preview as well. Ofcourse I think that would be less desirable because it would mean you are loosing the other audio tracks. And BTW: I also think it's often easier to just connect the Wireless GO to my camera cause then I don't have any sync offset I need to worry about.
Sorry, but there is really nothing but rerecord all the videos - and make sure you have the audio working next time. I know the awful feeling of having recorded videos and then noticing something major like the audio missing… I have had that happen to me with half a course a year ago… but at the end… I just had to bite the bullet and reshoot the missing parts 🙈.
@@ChrisSpiegl My computer ate my thesis (just after the wheel was invented, 5.25” floppy drive) the night before it was due. I fortunately had classmates who witnessed this. In 3 days I wrote a new thesis, and it was twice as good as the previous one. So, I agree with you on this!
Im about to buy the rode NTG+ which is powered. to record directly into the Ninja V. What kind of cable would you recommend for this? also, does this method have good audio without having a zoom recorder?
I have not done a setup with that mic, but since the NTG+ is self powered, maybe you can get a XLR to 3.5mm mini Jack to hook it up to the Atomos Ninja V.
@@marcdegrootweddings5431 Why not go for a mic that's mini jack by itself like the Rode VideoMic NTG? That you can use with an extension cable. Especially if you don't want to use a XLR audio recorder with it?
@@ChrisSpiegl thats a great suggestion. how does the mic quality compare? i assume that its powered so it works with the ninja. would the signal be cleaner if its jack to jack without the xlr?
@@marcdegrootweddings5431 I have not tested the NTG+ vs the VideoMic NTG myself. However I have seen comparisons where they are pretty dang close. And I would almost say, if you’re not using a dedicated audio recording device it may be a negligent difference. And yes the VideoMic NTG works with the Ninja V. But you can also just hook it up to the camera. And be aware of the issue described in this video!
Do you see any signal on the audio metering screen where the different inputs are shown next to each other? You could also check if you have the vertical / horizontal audio meter setting activated. And with all that, you then should be able to choose which channels you want to record. By default the Ninja only records the hdmi audio. But you can choose to record the other lines as well. About the mic: if that needs plug-in power, that will most likely not work, since the Ninja does not provide that. Only mic level microphones that have their own power or don’t need plug-in power are supported there.
@@ChrisSpiegl never seen meters other than what’s coming over the hdmi from the camera (which the mke600 and tentacle work through). Just can’t see any levels if the mic is plugged into the ninja. Also the mke600 has a AA battery so it doesn’t need power. Also made sure I powered it on
@@michaelrojas190 what if you touch the audio meters on the ninja? Do you get to the menu where you have multiple audio meters next to each other? There you should be able to activate the others to record as well. An important note: when you check the recording with VLC or Preview on macOS you’ll only hear the first two channels (which are most likely the HDMI audio). And only in programs like Premiere Pro, Audition, or DaVinci Resolve you’ll see the other audio tracks.
@@michaelrojas190 thanks, I appreciate that. If you’d like more help, you could also jump over onto my discord server. It’s easier to help there since we can send photos as demonstration as well. crsp.li/discord
@Chris Spiegl I was thinking about getting a ninja v for recording the screen while in photo mode. Since the audio doesn't get recorded in photo mode, I have to use the mic-in. I just want to record videos of my kids. I've tried the GoPro on cold shoe method but it doesn't work well with my longer lense. Also don't want to spend $200 on a Rode mic.
@@iGeng Don't want to spend 200$ on Rode Mic but 600+ on Ninja? Or do you happen to already have the Ninja? The issue I see with the mic you suggested: it looks like it does not have a built in battery? If that is the case, the Ninja will probably not support it as it does not provide Plugin-Power which would be necessary for the mic you use.
@@ChrisSpiegl Yes. Just got a ninja. It does use 2xAAA batteries but so does the Deity and that doesn't work. Plus I don't think hooking up lav mics on little kids will work too well.
@@iGeng Can you manually turn on the mic? Or does it rely on auto sensing if the camera is turned on? If you have a manual on off switch on the mic, then it should work.
I came here exactly because I have a rode videomicro , and I was trying it to get it to Work with no luck, not thank to you I know that is not going to happend
Excellent info! You save a bunch of us a lot of time and headaches 👍👍
Glad to help
Solid video mate. 100% answered my question "why the f*** is my deity mic not doing s*** when I plug it into my ninja 5?"
Keep them coming 👍
Glad it helped
lol this helps me 3 years later thanks!
Incredible. RUclips is truly incredible. Glad it helped.
Thank you. I was using videomicro and wondering how I couldnt make it work.
This was the video I was searching for. U have nailed it out
Thanks, I appreciate that 🌸.
Thanks for this video you saved me!! I was able to record audio directly to my camera while Ninja was recording and I believe it was sending the audio via HDMI cord. Both of my cameras were able to obtain the audio that way GH5 and Canon 5D IV so I'm happy I found your video and discovered this before the event I'm about to shoot! Thanks
Thank you, that's outstanding you could figure your setup out. Sometimes its really not as easy as plug and play.
I feel you, Chris. I went through some similar learning when I first got my Deity microphone. It taught me a lot about TRS and TRRS cables, powered jacks, and extension cords. By the time I started working with timecode devices through the mic jack, though, the learning came in handy. Essentially, there is no real standard on how that extra ring on TRRS cables are implemented (Apple devices are the WORST about this). When a mic tries to do something useful with it, like the Deity in sensing when the camera's on, that usefulness goes out the window if the mic isn't plugged directly into the mic jack. You'll notice these complications if you use an external audio recorder like, in my case, a Zoom F6. Anyway, thanks for documenting your experience for other creators' benefit.
Absolutely - and I have to agree. The Deity - for me - was the worst experience though. With the F6 however I am now having less problems - but that’s probably because I also have a much better understanding of plug-in power, phantom power, and when to use a normal aux/TRA cable vs. a TRRS one.
@@ChrisSpiegl Where I got burned with the cable differences was when I was on the set of a livestream and I plugged a lav mic into my Rode Wireless GO without the TRS adapter. The lav was TRRS and the GO only likes TRS. I lost the host's audio completely. 😭Luckily, I had the Deity as a backup on Camera A and was able to boost the gain enough to hobble along. Gotta tell ya, having that manual gain saved my bacon.
@@enidrajm sounds like you were using a Ride SmartLav or something similar. And I know the struggle. My partner does yoga videos on RUclips and live and uses the Wireless Go with the SmartLav and the TRRS to TRS adapter. Ideally we would get a straight TRS lav at some point. But for now the SmartLav works great.
Two things I have learned with these “complications” and “miss hab’s” is to check my gear before I go live or on set. Test the exact configuration - ideally a few days before you need it. That way you may even be able to order or purchase the missing link if there is one.
Great RUclips great RUclips video. Super informative and straight to the point and you respond to comments. Thanks for the help!!!
I thought I was crazy for a while.... thank you for this video confirming I am in fact, not!! Super helpful
I have found that every time you change something within your workflow, it has the knack to bite you the ass (referencing the static you encountered). I’m not perfect but I do try to test the change before a professional shoot. Great advice, thank you!
Absolutely, maybe I am getting old, but more and more I understand when people say: "Never change a running system" 🙈.
Life saver, thanks a lot Chris for this feed back !
Great advice. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
very good and timely - thanks for the great info
You are very welcome!
Thank you for sharing your findings in this helpful video
You are so welcome!
Thanks Chris. I found out the hard way. I normally plug my Rode Video Mic into my camera, but this time I figured I'd plug it straight into the Ninja V. I was in a hurry, so I didn't check it. It didn't work at all! Also, I just purchased a Deity S-Mic 2 and was wondering whether it would go straight into the Ninja V. The answer is "no", according to your video, as the Ninja V does not supply the required 48V (or 24V) phantom power. It's fine, as I have a pre-amp box that provides phantom power, but not quite as portable. Anyway, thanks again!
Hey Living Tech, yes, totally feel you. I also found out the hard way. 😅 but important thing about powering / switching the mics: these types of mics don’t need phantom power (12-48v) but Plugin power (2-5v). If you provide them with phantom power they may break. However, what you can do is use a stereo breakout cable to connect them both to the camera. 👌
@@ChrisSpiegl WOW! I totally missed that. Yes, I did hear you say "it probably needs power", and I now understand that you did not mean phantom power. I'd better listen more accurately next time! So, I'm guessing that my powered Beachtek pre-amp will take care of the 2-5V power then, so I can plug the Rode video mic straight into the preamp and all will be OK? I've subbed to your channel. Please check out mine, in case there's anything of interest there to you (TESLA, Photography/Videography gear (Beachtek pre-amp review coming), DIY Engineering/Tech projects, etc.). ruclips.net/user/livingtech Thanks for all your help here. Golden! :)
@@livingtech1407 yes - the thing is at the Time of making this video I hadn’t understood the difference between phantom lower and plug in power. 😅 it was a few weeks after that I learned that when discussing the Rode VXLR and Rode VXLR+ difference. But I’m glad you seem to have a solution for your setup.
I also checked out your channel. Some good stuff and amazing tech to make videos about. I like the whole teleprompter video. I am considering looking into that for some different purposes - inspired by Caleb from DSLR Video Shooter. Will see how that goes.
But always buying new gear to make videos is a bit tricky when trying to also be able to live off of the RUclips content. 😅 it’s a journey. 👌
@@ChrisSpiegl To avoid confusion, I'll tell you that I inadvertently logged in to the wrong email account above (LivingTech9@gmail.com, instead of my actual Living TECH account). Anyway, yes, for sure. I've nailed down my solution. The thing that confused me is that I could have sworn that I have used the Rode Video Mic in my Ninja V before. However, I'm obviously wrong. My wife and I are starting a YT channel for her Whole Foods Cooking, and I took exceptionally great video, using a Sony A7RIII, Sony A7RIV and A92, all G Master lenses, all mostly tack-sharp focus, perfect lighting, etc. So, I was disappointed to hear that the audio didn't match the quality. I'll have this nailed once I receive my new gear and practice for a few hours. :)
@@LivingTech Great to hear. I would love to chat sometime. I'll put you on my list of people to potentially have a interview-style conversation with. Look out for an email sometime these coming weeks.
good info
Glad I’ve seen this. Got my ninja V on the way and was planning on running tests on the vmic direct to the ninja. I might try a couple of other was more direct isn’t a possibility. 1st is through the camera of course. 2nd will be into a h4n and then use the out into the ninja.
Glad you found this video and happy that you got this upgrade - it's absolutely worth it to run this great small recorder / monitor. In terms of mic setup, I would recommend to just go through the camera as it's the easiest no hassle method and just use the line/mic in on the Atomos if you need an additional line for mics.
it works weni use it. maybe settings off
Thanks for the tips!
Happy to help!
My dear friend I have been trying to get audio to record on my Ninja V + and it won't using a Sony ECM-MS2Microphone going through the XLR-H1 handle on my Sony ILME-FX30 for 5 weeks Atomos is helping me but they cant resolve this issue maybe you can help? THX
I am experiencing static on the HDMI input 😮. When I move the headphone slider I hear static too. The line input is clean though. Any thoughts? I tried two different HDMI cables and same thing. Great tips Chris. Thanks
Thank you, indeed, put as a keyword or title "how to fix audio problems with the Atomos Ninja V" 😜
Why do you need an extra Mic when you can get sound from the hdmi to camera signals? No shade just curious. I plug my Rode Go ii right into my Sony fx3. The Ninja V is plugged into the fx3 too! I get sound to my sd card and to the ninja v ssd external…
That is correct, but what if you have a mic like the VideoMic NTG on top of the camera and additionally you have the Wireless Go II to have a secondary mic on the talent? That's when it can be really usefull.
Another use-case would be when you have your camera audio as a backup and you use an audio recorder and connect the line out to the Atomos Ninja V to simply have it there for easy sync / backup as well.
If you come from the 80th: Ninja audio IN is just a simple input like compact cassette recorder from the past. Just for mics like that from the 80th. No power, no phantom voltage, no TRRS. By the way: TRRS is more an iPhone thing than the video world.
Pretty much. And the TRRS: with mics like the VideoMic NTG it’s a “both kinds of devices” thing. Since the VideoMic NTG senses if it’s connected to a smartphone or camera.
And it is the default cable for this mic.
I don't know why it can not record audio from my PC. But it records audio from my MacBook pro. Internal audio from A73 is not recorded but the mic on top of A73 can be recorded. Maybe the cable matters.
My Atomos ninja recorded the video with the green peak focus lines embedded in the video. Am I not able to use focus peaking in the main camera without Atomos embedding the green lines in the recorded footage?
I have never had anything being embedded into my file when recording it with the atomos.
May sound obvious, but are you sure the peak line was not output by the camera instead of done by the atomos? That's the only idea I can come up with that could result in that kind of result.
@@ChrisSpiegl It was on the main camera, so I can't use peak focus on main camera while recording on Atomos I guess. Not even to check for a second.
@@Ingrid_Abrams Well, you can use the peak focus on the Atomos then. And the other thing would be to see if the camera could disable the output of the peak focusing?
I have the deity d3 pro and ninja v, so i just have to plug it in to the camera so it can works right? And then the hdmi cable will send the audio signal and récord it to the ninja?? Thank you soo much for your video :)
That is correct. Plugged into the Ninja the Deity D3 Pro will not turn on. But plugged into the camera you can send the signal through HDMI and record it that way. Works just like normal 💪.
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks so much 🤟🤟🤟😎😎
@@francarcamo You're welcome 🌸. Happy creating to you.
I connected my Audio Technica At875R to my Atomos Ninja V and it doesn’t work. Can you help?
Hi, I don't have experience with this mic but looking at it I would not expect it to work with the Atomos Ninja V because it is a XLR based microphone. I'd hook it up to an audio recorder and then maybe connect the Line out of the audio recorder to the Ninja V?
How about if you take line out from Zoom H6 or any other other external audio recorder and put it in mic input on Ninja V?
Hi Abul, a normal line out like the Zoom H6 provides works perfectly well, since a line out does not expect any power from the destination device like some microphones do. I have tested this with the Zoom H5 and that was without any issues.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thanks Chris
I recorded a music video with my Xt4 and Ninja V but I have no sound in any of the files ! What did I do wrong ????
Two thoughts: 1) are you trying to hear the audio in VLC or a similar video player? You may not hear the audio if it's on channels 3 and 4. So make sure to bring the footage into Premiere Pro or something similar. You may still have the audio it just is on the channels 3 and 4 which usually are not played back in standard video players.
2) Could also have been that the Audio channels were not activated to record on the NINJA. To make sure the audio channels are recording, go to the Settings on the Ninja under "Meters" (you can also touch the top right hand side where the audio levels are displayed) and you'll land there as well.
Once there you have all the audio levels and the best is to activate the first three "REC" buttons.
I hope it's #1 and that you still have some sound. Good luck and let me know.
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No phantom power.. got it. I use a little recorder that has the 48v so all good, there is an output that will then send the audio to the ninja or cam.
👍 perfect. That's ideal. And also, record on the recorder, cause - why not - so you have a backup and easy sync.
I’ve never tried using the input , but if you use the input does this give your file a extra audio clip for that video? So you technically can have 2 files of audio? One from the camera and one from the external input in?
Yes, that is exactly what you can do with this. Two channels come through on HDMI and then you have another 2 channels via this input.
Note that you don't get extra files and when you preview the file you might just hear the HDMI channels. But in programs like Premiere Pro and DavinciResolve you will get either 2 stereo tracks or even 4 mono depending on the setup.
@@ChrisSpiegl awesome thanks, time to experiment now 🤣
The atomos is line level right? So if i use zoom f6 with xlr mics into the atomos it would take the audio from the zoom f6 right?
I actually recently upgraded to the Zoom F6 as well and yes, on the Atomos you can set a setting wether your audio signal coming in on the mini klinke is Line or Mic level. So you can send the Zoom Audio into the Atomos with no problem. I will make a video about that soon as well.
@@ChrisSpiegl thank you appreciate it! Looking forward to your video!
Unfortunately, I went with the mixpre 6 ii so I'm assuming it's the same premise great video by the way.
@@sobk718 I am sure the MicPre is an awesome recorder as well. And yes - if you’re looking to feed the line out into the Atomos it works by setting the input on the Atomos to Line (-10db). 🌸
Does this apply to iPhone? I was told by Rode that I need to use an SC1 cable (TRSS to TRSS) into iPhone and a SC7 cable (TRSS to TRS) into the videomic NTG
Not really, for the iPhone you only need an adapter from Lightning to TRRS and then this mic automatically detects the correct format. That is because the iPhone is sending Plug In power and the VideoMic NTG has the logic to detect that.
@@ChrisSpiegl so the SC9 TRSS to TRSS cable plugged into the videomic NTG and the Apple adapter at the other end?
@@TheGrumpyExplorer yea, that’s what works for me.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thanks Chris. Do you get any sort of interference with it being such a long cable? I’m wondering if the shorter SC9 would work by itself, it’s a TRRS to TRSS cable
@@TheGrumpyExplorer I have not used it intensely with the iPhone so I don’t know for sure. But I’d guess you’ll be fine for the most part. Maybe go into airplane mode if you want to be extra save.
Is it possible to connect Tentacle Sync in the Mic/Line port of the Ninja V and record audio TC? Or does it somehow mess up when you have to use offsets with cameras?
Of course you can use this method. However, you will have to make sure that the sync offset is set correctly (or you have to do the offset later in post).
Otherwise your timecode will not be in sync with the HDMI signal.
Luckily, the offset sync is really easy with a TRS & HDMI Cable.
hey cris, how can you send the audio to the ninja v. im have connected the mic into the camera but i cant find the way to send the audio to the ninja v. thanks so much
The audio will usually be sent over HDMI and in the audio settings of the Ninja V you then can select which channels should be recorded. So two places to check:
1) make sure your camera has the mic leveled correctly and also outputs the sound via HDMI (not sure which camera you use, that's why I am mentioning it).
2) touch the audio meter on the Ninja and go to the "Meters" settings. There you will see multiple audio channels and you can most likely activate 3 buttons below the volume indicators. Activate all 3 and see which one gives you the camera audio signal.
That should give you the signal and ability to record your mic correctly. If you have more questions, please feel free to reach out.
@@ChrisSpiegl im using a canon 5ds. i think thats why is not working. thanks so much Chris for your time!! ✌️✌️
@@francarcamo I can't quite speak for the 5Ds since I have never used it. But I found this article which could mean that the 5Ds just does not have a clean HDMI out and thus also does not provide the audio signal over HDMI - possibly.
I hope that you can figure something out but you may just have to look for an alternative camera to use with the Atomos Ninja V. The 5Ds does not seem to be a very good video camera.
Again, I am only judging based on this article I just found.
www.eoshd.com/news/canon-5ds-takes-a-backwards-step-for-video-why-is-canon-so-baffling/
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks so much for your help Chris! your the man!!
@@francarcamo Thank you, I appreciate that.
Q: Do you think the ninja v and the Zoom h4nPro work????
I think the H4n Pro probably has a Line Out port and that would mean it does work. I am actually using the Line out from my Zoom F6 a lot to record that into the Mic/Line in of the Atomos Ninja V.
Thanks man! How would you rate the Ninja v preamps vs say in camera preamps (ex nikon z6 ii)? And most importantly, @9:00 do we need male to female trs 3.5 mm cable to then plug to Male to male trs extension cable?
Thanks for your comment. My thoughts:
1) I have not compared the preamps in detail. However my feeling is the ones in the Atomos are cleaner.
2) if you use an extension cord, yes, a TRS male to female and then a TRS male to male would work. However you - of course - could also use a really long male to male TRS cable.
Happy shooting. 👌
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks! One last thing, does the trs cable need to be mono or stereo? I read the mic is mono.
@@hippopictures I am using stereo cables.
Most mic inputs are stereo ports and should work.
@@ChrisSpiegl perfect, thank you! Subscribed.
@@hippopictures you’re welcome. Hope you’ll find more useful content on my channel. 👌
So I have the Røde NTG hooked up to the Ninja V but all I get is one (right) channel. I tried the TRRS cable that comes with it but als several TRS cables. I only get one channel (mono). Also on my Z7 camera, same thing. Now since it is a mono mic it might be okay but I was wondering if you have the same problem or my unit is defective…. Thanks for your help!
I get a signal on both channels and when using the Røde VideoMic NTG in Safety-Track-Mode, then I also get both signal strength recorded (and displayed in the metering). Not sure what may be going on with your mic.
@@ChrisSpiegl Dear Curtis, thanks so much for your answer! I was suspecting something is wrong, since I couldn’t find anything on that matter! I’ll return it and get me another, since the sound quality per se is great for what it is. Thanks again for taking your time!🙏
@@andreathode3782 You're welcome, I hope you get a working one setup 👍.
P.S.: just to clarify, I'm Chris not Curtis - although Curtis is a great creator as well, if you are thinking about Curtis Judd 🙈.
@@ChrisSpiegl OMG, my bad! Excuse me, I really got a little confused there…😅
@@andreathode3782 No worries 🌸. That happens.
Hey bro! I got the Rode VC1 3.5mm TRS Microphone Extension Cable for Cameras (10') ROVC1 and sometimes it works perfect other times my NTG mic powers off and makes this terrible nasty noise that completely destroys the sound. Most of the time I record while looking up at the mic to make sure it’s still on and didn’t power off due to the extension cable. Before it shuts down the noise in the video during post is extremely staticky and intolerable. I need a solution 😔
Do you connect the VC1 to a camera or to the Atomos Ninja V?
@@ChrisSpiegl to my camera 🎥 I don’t have a ninja
@@priestlygarments4004 and you are using the Rode VideoMic NTG?
Then with the cables you are talking about it should not “randomly” turn itself off. But when it does it makes sense that it would make a strange sound.
I’m not sure what you may have going on… are you turning the mic on manually? Is the camera constantly recording or starting and stopping? Does the mic turn on automatically when your camera is in video shooting mode?
@@ChrisSpiegl no I didn’t manually turn it on . It turns on automatically when recording! But I only have this issue when using an extension cable unfortunately. Yes I’m using the Rode VideoMic NTG
@@priestlygarments4004 that is strange. I have used my VideoMic NTG with extension cables as well and it did not turn off by itself. Maybe if you turn the mic on manually it would stay on? Worth a try I’d say. Or contacting the Rode support team.
I recently did a video shoot & had my Rode Wireless Go mic plugged in directly to the atomos ninja v. The only issue is there’s no sound whenever I try playing them in preview on my Mac. How do I fix the audio settings on my atomos to prevent this in the future?
The issue with no sound in preview is that the atomos saves the audio channels as 4 audio channels and preview only plays back the first two as a stereo signal. In the video editing program you probably do have the 4 tracks available.
I currently can't confirm this, but an idea: if you disable the recording of the HDMI audio tracks, and only enable the internal Atomos Line/Mic port, then it could be that you end up with 2 channels only and those would then be played back by preview as well.
Ofcourse I think that would be less desirable because it would mean you are loosing the other audio tracks.
And BTW: I also think it's often easier to just connect the Wireless GO to my camera cause then I don't have any sync offset I need to worry about.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you!
I recorded 4 videos at a stretch and i never knew i didnt turn on the mic, this is a disaster 😭 what can i do.
Sorry, but there is really nothing but rerecord all the videos - and make sure you have the audio working next time.
I know the awful feeling of having recorded videos and then noticing something major like the audio missing… I have had that happen to me with half a course a year ago… but at the end… I just had to bite the bullet and reshoot the missing parts 🙈.
@@ChrisSpiegl thank you so much, its a serious pain in d ass. I learnt my lessons, wont make that mistake again
@@JokeSoyombo Take it as an opportunity, the second recording - let it be better.
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks, ur words melt my heart
@@ChrisSpiegl My computer ate my thesis (just after the wheel was invented, 5.25” floppy drive) the night before it was due. I fortunately had classmates who witnessed this. In 3 days I wrote a new thesis, and it was twice as good as the previous one. So, I agree with you on this!
Im about to buy the rode NTG+ which is powered. to record directly into the Ninja V. What kind of cable would you recommend for this? also, does this method have good audio without having a zoom recorder?
I have not done a setup with that mic, but since the NTG+ is self powered, maybe you can get a XLR to 3.5mm mini Jack to hook it up to the Atomos Ninja V.
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks :) hopefully itll be clean with no noise.
@@marcdegrootweddings5431 Why not go for a mic that's mini jack by itself like the Rode VideoMic NTG? That you can use with an extension cable. Especially if you don't want to use a XLR audio recorder with it?
@@ChrisSpiegl thats a great suggestion. how does the mic quality compare? i assume that its powered so it works with the ninja. would the signal be cleaner if its jack to jack without the xlr?
@@marcdegrootweddings5431 I have not tested the NTG+ vs the VideoMic NTG myself. However I have seen comparisons where they are pretty dang close. And I would almost say, if you’re not using a dedicated audio recording device it may be a negligent difference. And yes the VideoMic NTG works with the Ninja V. But you can also just hook it up to the camera. And be aware of the issue described in this video!
I have an MKE600 (mic level) and can't get it or a Tentacle Sync (line level) to show any kind of levels. What am I missing?
Do you see any signal on the audio metering screen where the different inputs are shown next to each other?
You could also check if you have the vertical / horizontal audio meter setting activated.
And with all that, you then should be able to choose which channels you want to record. By default the Ninja only records the hdmi audio. But you can choose to record the other lines as well.
About the mic: if that needs plug-in power, that will most likely not work, since the Ninja does not provide that. Only mic level microphones that have their own power or don’t need plug-in power are supported there.
@@ChrisSpiegl never seen meters other than what’s coming over the hdmi from the camera (which the mke600 and tentacle work through). Just can’t see any levels if the mic is plugged into the ninja. Also the mke600 has a AA battery so it doesn’t need power. Also made sure I powered it on
@@michaelrojas190 what if you touch the audio meters on the ninja? Do you get to the menu where you have multiple audio meters next to each other?
There you should be able to activate the others to record as well.
An important note: when you check the recording with VLC or Preview on macOS you’ll only hear the first two channels (which are most likely the HDMI audio). And only in programs like Premiere Pro, Audition, or DaVinci Resolve you’ll see the other audio tracks.
@@ChrisSpiegl Also, my problem aside, thank you so much for your videos.
@@michaelrojas190 thanks, I appreciate that. If you’d like more help, you could also jump over onto my discord server. It’s easier to help there since we can send photos as demonstration as well.
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Will the Comica CVM-V30 Pro work?
I have not tested, but generally speaking: I would almost always go through the camera since that gives you no sync issues between video and audio.
@Chris Spiegl I was thinking about getting a ninja v for recording the screen while in photo mode. Since the audio doesn't get recorded in photo mode, I have to use the mic-in. I just want to record videos of my kids. I've tried the GoPro on cold shoe method but it doesn't work well with my longer lense. Also don't want to spend $200 on a Rode mic.
@@iGeng Don't want to spend 200$ on Rode Mic but 600+ on Ninja? Or do you happen to already have the Ninja?
The issue I see with the mic you suggested: it looks like it does not have a built in battery? If that is the case, the Ninja will probably not support it as it does not provide Plugin-Power which would be necessary for the mic you use.
@@ChrisSpiegl Yes. Just got a ninja. It does use 2xAAA batteries but so does the Deity and that doesn't work. Plus I don't think hooking up lav mics on little kids will work too well.
@@iGeng Can you manually turn on the mic? Or does it rely on auto sensing if the camera is turned on? If you have a manual on off switch on the mic, then it should work.
I came here exactly because I have a rode videomicro , and I was trying it to get it to Work with no luck, not thank to you I know that is not going to happend
At least not plugged into the Ninja. But you can still plug it into the camera and this way have it recording.