Sub conscious stealing is a reoccurring theme. There was a time when I practiced constantly on snare drum techniques. I noticed when I was playing with a band without thinking technique or licks, I would automatically play what I had been practicing in my playing. The process never stops. We grow from many outlets. Practicing, performing or stealing ideas from others. We will only become the greatest musician we can be by incorporating everything your aware of and making it your own. This is part of the learning process of growth.
when my yt autoplay moves over to your channel / vids - it's always this kind of breath of fresh air that there's an analytical, chill person presenting useful stuff with some meta commentary on the joy of having an interest in drumming. It's always a nice switch up from dodging vids geared towards marketing or being sensational... just wanted to say it's appreciated. cheers
Bro I sincerely appreciate your content I have learned so much the past few weeks you have a way of breaking things down in a simple way that not only is easy to retain but inspires me to keep practicing and learning please keep the videos coming
Nate, long time lurking viewer but beginning to comment on some of your videos. Love your stuff - your playing, content, sense of humor (so important in life). Keep it all up. One thing I wanted to say that others have touched on is, the particular makeup of kits of the people you are getting inspiration/licks from such as this. Much easier to quick-stomp and close tight tiny mini 8" hats than say, full size 14" or larger hats. And some of your chop vids, those master players such as Eric Moore, Tony Royster, etc.. If one has a similar kit makeup and more importantly, tuning style as them, in my opinion it would be easier to approximate those chops, even if one doesn't possess the physical ability and/or cpu speed (brain wiring) to execute their ideas as fast. Just as they might possess the skill to play subtle yet burning slow straight ahead jazz, but it won't sound quite the same with their usual kit/tuning, vs them playing on a tiny 4 piece with high open tuning for a more 'legit' approach. Just one 50+ guy's opinion...
iv been guilty of rant bombing your comments and everyone elses but quick in hemiola which prob directly derived from flamencos bulerias in twelve---k̂what interested me about flamenco as drummer is clappung patterns and often related cajon patterns but in relation to hemiola the basic clap pattern i learned was 1²³4⁵⁶7⁸9¹⁰11¹² so two groups of three and one two one two----but you can add accent on 7&8&10 & three groups of three with the one lead in or whstever but that pattrtn works perfectly with "i want to live in amer-i-ca or however you break up the words but thats how we wrre taught we being mainly the guitarist who lesrned from dennis koster who lesrned from the great one paco de lucia
JD kinda breaking some molds ....refreshing. I like Neil as much as anyone but enough is enough. This dude kinda drop a funky, jazzy, gospel type chop vibe on us. That's cool!!!
In my practice and what my instructor has me working on. Heel up closing the hi hat quick on the and's when I'm playing 8th notes. Closing the hi hat on the ah's of each quarter note. I like playing them
I don't know what it is maybe I'm just getting more used to the cut of your jib but I'm enjoying your Channel. I always have but you just popped back up in my algorithm after some kind of hiatus and I'm just glad to get caught up. Plus I like the humor but also the drum advice is I consider it Next Generation definitely not average.
You sound great in 2x on YT :). Thanks Nate, it's some cool shit. In the original lick beat 3 is just singles RLRL, so relax maaaan. I love how you use "reverse the polarity" to mean having the lead sticking switched. Great ideas. Check out Gadd playing some RllF between hats with stick (R), ghosted snare (l) and hat pedal (F) for all sorts of similar ideas. Claus Hessler also rinses this stuff in his paradiddle substitution section in Open Handed Playing (book, vol 1 I believe). Thanks!
Drums are strange to the non-drummer in that pocket feels good, but advanced stuff / drum solos / complex sticking in general feel busy and inaccessible. Nate shows me over and over: pocket is advanced facility and time precision applied to accessible grooves. You can't separate them.
Great vid as always out of curiosity what do you mean by mess with the lick? Do you mean literally orchestrate the idea randomly and then write down the ones you like? Or do you do something else? Thanks as always
Love the video as always but I think your transcription is a bit off! You have him doing RLLR on beat 3 with the backbeat but in the clip you showed I think it’s just RLRL, which also makes it a lot easier to keep the hihat clean
I'm not...100%...sure. Part of transcribing is feeling what sticking I'd do there, and singles felt awkward. 3 ghosted strokes on the snare? Meh. So I reviewed it a bunch of times, and decided it was probably rllr. I could be wrong. That's my best guess tho ;)
@@8020drummer FRLL FRLL RLRL FRLL Pretty sure it's that. It does definitely make the beat because otherwise you're changing the the melody of the hi-hat. As Sandy said it cleans up the hi-hat foot too
@@lukehartley7950 here’s why that’s awkward. The rimshot with the rh, then, one 8th note later, a ghost stroke? Try playing it fast. It doesn’t feel like something a drummer would invent. Maybe you’d play it if you had to in a classical percussion piece but would you invent it like that? But I still could be wrong 🤷♂️
@@8020drummer listening back now i'm pretty convinced of the RLRL in the third beat. In the first few bars of the JD beck clip you linked, listen for the hihats - there is definitely a hihat stroke on the + of 3. I think afterwards he ghosts it on the snare though
Yeah, I mean what I would do to go to snuff chambers and let my Americaness be known and then push at a distance all they now desire, but dig in me. It's like really courtly and sh-t.
Your version doesn't sound exactly right. JD seems to be playing in an odd meter but more notably, JD sounds like he's playing the accent on the snare on the "a" of 2. You're playing it a 16th note later - on the 3.
Because of social media platforms JD beck has been shoved down my throat! Yes I like his stuff, do not get me wrong. But! In my days of advid practice I searched Morgen Agren! Whats the point here . JD IS GREAT,but so are so many others! Like whatr you like but do not exhault any over yourself! Your jourmey is apart of this history too whether you like it or not! when its you live its you and to that crowd. you also. JD cool, but you are cool too believe it or not. Morgen Agren I mentioned because he went unnoticed for so long but has the same ryhtmyic attributes of many a mordern drummer, although Id say better for not always being so linear. ut
“If you’re a square” at 8:32 is a hall of fame 80/20 moment
Love it
Agreed
🤣❤️
literally made me lol hahaha
Sub conscious stealing is a reoccurring theme. There was a time when I practiced constantly on snare drum techniques. I noticed when I was playing with a band without thinking technique or licks, I would automatically play what I had been practicing in my playing. The process never stops. We grow from many outlets. Practicing, performing or stealing ideas from others. We will only become the greatest musician we can be by incorporating everything your aware of and making it your own. This is part of the learning process of growth.
Love your use of the phrase “shape” in these videos. It’s a really straightforward and engaging way to communicate a new idea
when my yt autoplay moves over to your channel / vids - it's always this kind of breath of fresh air that there's an analytical, chill person presenting useful stuff with some meta commentary on the joy of having an interest in drumming. It's always a nice switch up from dodging vids geared towards marketing or being sensational... just wanted to say it's appreciated. cheers
Couldn’t agree more! I crave this type of content and wish it was more popular to have such a style
Bro I sincerely appreciate your content I have learned so much the past few weeks you have a way of breaking things down in a simple way that not only is easy to retain but inspires me to keep practicing and learning please keep the videos coming
Thanks for all the free transcriptions Nate
You're missing the fact that JD puts Gaf tape on his symbols and sets random stuff on his drums to mute the sound.
Nate, long time lurking viewer but beginning to comment on some of your videos. Love your stuff - your playing, content, sense of humor (so important in life). Keep it all up. One thing I wanted to say that others have touched on is, the particular makeup of kits of the people you are getting inspiration/licks from such as this. Much easier to quick-stomp and close tight tiny mini 8" hats than say, full size 14" or larger hats. And some of your chop vids, those master players such as Eric Moore, Tony Royster, etc.. If one has a similar kit makeup and more importantly, tuning style as them, in my opinion it would be easier to approximate those chops, even if one doesn't possess the physical ability and/or cpu speed (brain wiring) to execute their ideas as fast. Just as they might possess the skill to play subtle yet burning slow straight ahead jazz, but it won't sound quite the same with their usual kit/tuning, vs them playing on a tiny 4 piece with high open tuning for a more 'legit' approach. Just one 50+ guy's opinion...
Very sharp ..... tough groove to play really enjoyed you breaking that down
You blow me away man. I’m a self-taught old dude who has had some lessons. I felt myself playing more in the pocket this weekend. Cool
Your movements are getting tighter and tighter. Less and less wasted motion. Mastery incoming.
Thanks Nate, cracking lesson as always!
Brilliant lesson. Cheers
I'm gonna watch again in a year.
And see my improvement
I just want to say that I'm following the channel for few years now. Very fun and educative, very well made. Thanks for sharing your videos!
iv been guilty of rant bombing your comments and everyone elses but quick in hemiola which prob directly derived from flamencos bulerias in twelve---k̂what interested me about flamenco as drummer is clappung patterns and often related cajon patterns but in relation to hemiola the basic clap pattern i learned was 1²³4⁵⁶7⁸9¹⁰11¹² so two groups of three and one two one two----but you can add accent on 7&8&10 & three groups of three with the one lead in or whstever but that pattrtn works perfectly with "i want to live in amer-i-ca or however you break up the words but thats how we wrre taught we being mainly the guitarist who lesrned from dennis koster who lesrned from the great one paco de lucia
Youre right... This ish really did just unlock A LOT
JD kinda breaking some molds ....refreshing. I like Neil as much as anyone but enough is enough. This dude kinda drop a funky, jazzy, gospel type chop vibe on us. That's cool!!!
In my practice and what my instructor has me working on. Heel up closing the hi hat quick on the and's when I'm playing 8th notes. Closing the hi hat on the ah's of each quarter note. I like playing them
Amazing content. Thank you.
That's really cool, you owned this one!
I don't know what it is maybe I'm just getting more used to the cut of your jib but I'm enjoying your Channel. I always have but you just popped back up in my algorithm after some kind of hiatus and I'm just glad to get caught up. Plus I like the humor but also the drum advice is I consider it Next Generation definitely not average.
Duuuude. So cool and such good info for us fellow drumsters
You COULD make it in 4. 🤣 Improv at the end was really cool.
It looks like the backbeat at 2:51 is rimshot on 3 , ghost, closed hat, ghost, then foot-hat, closed hat, ghost, ghost for beat 4 etc.
David Garibaldi Future Sounds......
Interesting! Cool as usual
Nice. Well done Mr 20.
You sound great in 2x on YT :). Thanks Nate, it's some cool shit.
In the original lick beat 3 is just singles RLRL, so relax maaaan. I love how you use "reverse the polarity" to mean having the lead sticking switched.
Great ideas. Check out Gadd playing some RllF between hats with stick (R), ghosted snare (l) and hat pedal (F) for all sorts of similar ideas. Claus Hessler also rinses this stuff in his paradiddle substitution section in Open Handed Playing (book, vol 1 I believe).
Thanks!
Do you have the full track of your intro song? I could listen to that all day
I always ask for this lolol
Song is UHHH by MXXWLL
@@Javier10057 thanks, but I meant 80/20’s intro music.
@@DrDrewdude oops Didn’t read the intro part lol
Thank u so much for this 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Duuuuude, thank you!
I didn't know mr. Bean can play the drums
Drums are strange to the non-drummer in that pocket feels good, but advanced stuff / drum solos / complex sticking in general feel busy and inaccessible. Nate shows me over and over: pocket is advanced facility and time precision applied to accessible grooves. You can't separate them.
Im pretty sure the snare backbeat is on the second e of 2, not the 3. so one 16th before 3.
Great vid as always out of curiosity what do you mean by mess with the lick? Do you mean literally orchestrate the idea randomly and then write down the ones you like? Or do you do something else? Thanks as always
Hi, I think it would be great if you could put up transcriptions or some sort of queue when you're playing, a click, even
Absolutely. Transcriptions while playing are incredibly helpful and more engaging
Very nice
What band/bands are you in? I wanna look it up and hear it
Is there a lesson for the beat played in the intro @ 00:50? Thanks!!
Check out Like Titus from Chicago too! Listen to him on his new record with Cisco Swank and then go down the rabbit hole. Enjoy
Love the video as always but I think your transcription is a bit off! You have him doing RLLR on beat 3 with the backbeat but in the clip you showed I think it’s just RLRL, which also makes it a lot easier to keep the hihat clean
Yeah agreed
I'm not...100%...sure. Part of transcribing is feeling what sticking I'd do there, and singles felt awkward. 3 ghosted strokes on the snare? Meh. So I reviewed it a bunch of times, and decided it was probably rllr. I could be wrong. That's my best guess tho ;)
@@8020drummer
FRLL FRLL RLRL FRLL
Pretty sure it's that. It does definitely make the beat because otherwise you're changing the the melody of the hi-hat. As Sandy said it cleans up the hi-hat foot too
@@lukehartley7950 here’s why that’s awkward. The rimshot with the rh, then, one 8th note later, a ghost stroke? Try playing it fast. It doesn’t feel like something a drummer would invent. Maybe you’d play it if you had to in a classical percussion piece but would you invent it like that? But I still could be wrong 🤷♂️
@@8020drummer listening back now i'm pretty convinced of the RLRL in the third beat. In the first few bars of the JD beck clip you linked, listen for the hihats - there is definitely a hihat stroke on the + of 3. I think afterwards he ghosts it on the snare though
Ninja
I think this is easier if you have a similar hi hat like JD
gracias
So clean..jd sticking...how..why
Love it
Great, useful breakdown. Tasty hats too. Are those A Customs?
A mastersound, it looks like a bottom as top.
Simultaneously stolen from Steve Gadd in certain way!
50 ways to reinvent the wheel :)
Just a triplets
🤔
noice
Yeah, I mean what I would do to go to snuff chambers and let my Americaness be known and then push at a distance all they now desire, but dig in me. It's like really courtly and sh-t.
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Your version doesn't sound exactly right. JD seems to be playing in an odd meter but more notably, JD sounds like he's playing the accent on the snare on the "a" of 2. You're playing it a 16th note later - on the 3.
But it doesnt like it .
Because of social media platforms JD beck has been shoved down my throat! Yes I like his stuff, do not get me wrong. But! In my days of advid practice I searched Morgen Agren! Whats the point here . JD IS GREAT,but so are so many others! Like whatr you like but do not exhault any over yourself! Your jourmey is apart of this history too whether you like it or not! when its you live its you and to that crowd. you also. JD cool, but you are cool too believe it or not. Morgen Agren I mentioned because he went unnoticed for so long but has the same ryhtmyic attributes of many a mordern drummer, although Id say better for not always being so linear.
ut
JD is screw up this lick at the end... and he always do, as all youngsters he thinks that everybody eat same sht as him
While I like most styles of drumming and admire the skill required to do it, this kid does nothing for me. Not my thing.
Try a real metronome instead of a real lick
Right cause I never talk about the metronome 🤣🤣