$16 Wheels vs $2,600 Wheels | CASH vs TRASH
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Do you need to spend up big cash on wheels, or can you use trash? In this new series, we'll get both, then get an expert to decide. Along the way, one car will modified with loads of cash, and the other one will be modified with parts found from dumpster diving, recyclers, second hand parts or the cheapest parts we can find.
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Hey MCM Gang. We're making our own mods by dumpster diving for this new series on the Peugeot, while the Swift will get legit JDM parts before they go head to head in a Cash vs Trash final battle. We hope you enjoy it!
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How did you decide who went trash & who went cash, just curious ?
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Haven’t herd from Cheryl lately?
I have a set of old new stock Koni shock absorbers for a 206,if you organise the shipping you can have them,or trade for a Cheryl’s box lol
I like this but once its all over I would also like to see what happens if the cars are switched. Of course that would involve buying two sets of mods each - so probably a no go on financial grounds - but it might give a better idea if it was the money or the chassis' adapting to mods giving the edge.
Its funny you say that the Swift gets JDM race part.. here in Europe the Swift is something your granny drives, and the Peugeot 206 is the one where you can get everything from rally to race parts, a little bit like a Civic but more rally
They are heavy, but I personally like the look of the rims that Marty ended up with. That sort of Lancia Delta rally type rim.
Yeah those are actually rota recce wheels, and I have a set of white ones for my fiesta st, I had a double take moment when they showed them 😂
I thought that about the delta looking wheels, compomotive? I bet they're a nightmare to get all the brake dust out of, good shout getting them in black
I got very confused when I read your comment halfway trough the video...
Was hoping the expert would also rate them
@@Kingcake57 If you bought them new, did you get them close to $250? Their website says they're $310 now.
OEM+ is always a good starting point for a cheap wheel upgrade. If there are higher trim levels of your car that have better factory wheels, you can sometimes pick them up cheap through online marketplaces or even at the junkyard.
This. On my mitsubishi (legnum) i put EVO 8 enkei wheels because the fitment is perfect, found them for a great price and they are a quality cast. On my Talon I put Stealth wheels because again, fitment is perfect and price was amazing.
I don't find it reasonable to spend thousands on brand new wheels and tires. I always buy 2nd hand because it's what I can afford and it's better for the environment. Keep recycling, one man's trash is another man's treasure!
Certainly. Sometimes, you can also get wheels that are a huge upgrade from another model from the same make. Example: my 2005 Subaru Outback XT has 17" wheels from a 2013 Subaru BRZ. They fit perfectly and are a great upgrade for the car. Better Tire options and OEM impact resistance help greatly.
Definitely good when looking at Holden wheels. There are so many great factory options. I have VT GTS wheels on my VT Executive.
Can’t wait for the next episode where they discover the wonderful world of Peugeot torsion bars
We will discover how to not go anywhere near them and send the Peugbro hard into turn 1
@@mightycarmods lmao
Slide hammer? Check. Fire? Check. BF hammer? Check. Knuckle rash, frustration and despair? Check. Driving down the road with unequal height rears due to not marking the splines? Check. Ahh the fun of torsion bars in pugs...so much joy happiness and strong sense of inner wellbeing.
@@richbrown5852 I wonder if they punish the motorsport mechanics with them too 😂😂
@@richbrown5852 sounds just like an old valiant. lol.
Been waiting for you guys to do hi/low, can't wait for this series with them being cars a lot can afford 👌
Except that it's all low because it's in Australia 🦘🌏 😹
@@TheG60528XiJinPing actually, it's upsidedown here so its low\hi
Yeah I thought High/Low as well But I like this spin better. Even if your gonna spend it does not need to be expensive(High)
This has the potential to be the best series yet!
Irony, I get it!
No disespect to the MCM boys...but...... it deffinitely worked when donut media did it......multiple times....to the point it became a regular series for them.
So long as it doesn't have some boring expert come in and talk dribble for most of each episode
@@FPVsean bAcKpReSsUrE
I love that this new MCM style is clearly not scripted and still sooooooo informative. Super duper work guys
Lol if you reckon this is unscripted you need to get your eyes/ears checked
There is a huge selection of 4x108 now. Not as much as 4x100 but really anything worth getting comes in it now.
Here in france, 4x108 is common af, plenty of aftermarket wheels (and oem) on the second hand market.
4x100 tho, pretty rare on the second hand market if you want aftermarket (you could use oem renault, but those are generally hideous, with the exception of the clio 16s ones)
I think some later pugs came with 5x110, so the hubs may be interchangeable? though I think the only real way to polish a turd is with a constant stream of liquid nitrogen and a lot of skill...whether its worth the expense and effort is a whole different kettle of frogs
Man I'm struggling, got a Saab 900 Aero 4x108. Fucking pain trying to get some nice looking mesh wheels for it, ended up buying some BBS knock offs but it was such a headache
Absolutely glad you gents are drawing a line at safety. Those pot-metal rims Marty found could turn a car into a death-trap on the track all by themselves, even if everything else was good.
Imagine if Marty gets to spend all of the money he saved before the final battle on one mod...
like a wildcard type thing. i like it. keep it secret right till the end. yep
A 206 gti lol
@@georgeoliver8300 A Renault Megan RS lol
Nitrous kit lol, 150 shot
Set of ps5s and proper springs
This is going to be a great series. I like the idea of bringing in a specialist to deep dive on the difference between approaches, rather than just putting them on and forgetting about them. Great concept - more please. Cheers.
12.01 "I'm gunna be hard to beat off........the line". Classic Marty comment. Love it!! 🤣👍
Can't wait for the followups. The high car, low car over at Donut media was pretty entertaining.
Yay an actually watchable hi low series. Congrats MCM on making your version of the series. Looking forward to it.
Love this concept 🤩
Find it funny that the 4x108 pattern is uncommon in Australia, here in Scandinavia there is a overflow of lightweight racing wheels with 4x108 stud patters. And I know this since my Ford Mundane ST200 is 4x108.
Keep up the awesome show!
It is the same story as the replacement / custom parts for the peugeot. Uncommon in Australia, quite common in Europe. You see the same here for japanese performance cars though. Everything here seems to be German cars.
I love weds wheels, they look awesome, but the set Marty's ended up with look absolutely sick
Marty’s quote “i’m going to be hard to beat off……………the line”
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4x108 was used on the Ford Contour/Mondeo and Ford Focus. I bought a Contour that the previous owner had put BBS wheels on. Sold the wheels for more than I paid for the car. :D
"Don't cheap out on stuff that connects you to the ground, grandson. Buy good shoes, chairs, mattresses and tires" Love you gramps!
This is fantastic. Your special sauce makes this entertaining as always, and the comparison is excellent.
So MCM take on Hi/Low series from Donut?! Cannot wait! You guys rock!
Thought the exact same thing
US vs AU challenger in the future. Both channels have good content. Love to see them work together in a competition.
Makes me wish we get a cross over eventually.
Would rather a JDM vs EURO like Humblemechanic/gearsand gasoline instead of Donuts hi/lo..
@@darianistead2239 I like that but I think by working with Donut it would just be giving respect to what they already accomplished.
Funny to hear that 4*108 is rare in australia, here in france i had trouble to find cheap 4*100 for my ae82, but there's lots of 108 in the second hand market x)
Love to see you doing new stuff lads, keep doing this for as long as you can, I'll be watching for as long as you do. I'd love if you did another trip to Europe sometime, I'd definitely use it as an excuse for a road trip to see you in person. 👍
Me too!
12:01 hard to beat off… the line 🤣 well played… well… played…
Can't wait to see Marty's surprise when he sees how a 206's rear suspension works. Fully independent trailing arms and yet you can't run coilovers since it uses torsion bars. Or more likely, he mistakes it for a torsion beam like a Yaris.
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I was hoping they'd upgrade their respective vehicles by sticking to the same overall budget (including the purchase price of the vehicle).
the 206 would absolutely dominate with the starting price difference put into performance parts. I would have loved to see it, but I guess they didn't go that way.
12:01 "hard to beat off...., the line."
Lmfao
Tires are a huge game changer and I think using the same one is a good call. I would love to see the difference on both cars lap times from the excellent Michelins and a more budget option
“Hard to beat off…the line” 😂👍👊
30 seconds in and I can already tell I'm going to enjoy this series. 👏
Wow, a new season of Hi/Low already. Sweeeet!
As a professional performance parts advisor, I'm genuinely happy to see this.
Glad you're not an amateur performance parts advisor, thanks for sharing
I LOVE that you're using the same tires on both cars
These comparison vids are great...and the results are always interesting.
Brilliant series thank you guys
Ever since donut did this, I've wanted you guys to make a better version. You did not disappoint, thank you!
This episode brings me back to the old cable car shows I used to watch, meaning I feel like I just watched a long commercial.
An unexpected direction for the series, but a welcome one
Stock take-off's from some of the higher end/trim models of vehicles is an excellent way to beat the system! You get well made alloy wheels for dirt cheap as alot of people with the fancy cars go aftermarket.
Stoked to see where this series goes. Looks like a blast.
You guys rock. Been watching for quite a few years now and just this week am about to pull the trigger on some APEX sm-10’s for my Mk6 GTI. This video was perfect timing.
Im part of the Swift community in Singapore and I've had 2 of those ZC31s before. It's interesting to see your track builds going for really expensive 17" TC105s, as most (if not all) track build ZC31s' here in Asia are running on 15" or maximum 16" wheels. The most notorious ones here in Singapore run 15" wheels so it'll be interesting to see how your build turns out! I used to run 17s and 16s on mine and I've got to say I preferred my 16s. Maybe if you had a 15" wheelset lying around, it might be interesting to compare them!
I agree, on such a light and relatively low powered car saving unsprung/rotating mass on the wheels can give significant benefits.
Pretty sure UK spec ZC31S have 17s as standard.
I tend to agree. It's somewhat looks vs performance here as well as tyre choice. I think you can't get pilot sports in less than a 17", so that is prob a factor if they are sponsoring. I put 13" rims on my mini back in the day and it looked spectacular, but compared to a lightweight 10" minilite, the handling (and gearboxes!) suffered.
@@richardallen1629 If you specifically want Pilot Sports then you are stuck with 17s, but there are high performance road legal tyres available in 15" and 16" (higher performance than Pilot Sports, at least in dry conditions).
Hopefully since this is a shorter episode, we'll get more frequent uploads!
I definitely agree with the comments on the wheels. Quality is king. I had a set of Volk SE37K's, two got bent due to unavoidable road damage & other than some discoloration to the bronze finish the repairs were perfectly executed, unfortunately it also costs allot of money to repair Forged wheels.
This series is going to be awesome!!!
Bloody still gettin ya moneys worth outta that In The Bin clip. Love it.
Kinda like hi-lo from donut
Really enjoying this fun and educational. I like the third party guys coming in giving us their opinions. I think we need a whiteboard put somewhere and th lads should have teacher hats and pointers😂
I would have thought a bit "outside the box" with the wheels , I would have looked for a hub with the same stud pattern as the swift for the Purjo , then made them fit with a bearing resize or a bit of machining to suit if needed . That would make for a cheaper swap over even with a bit of machining paid for with a set of second hand wheels because of the availability of that stud pattern using second hand hubs 😉. It would be even better if you have the skills and tooling to machine the parts yourself or have a good friend that can do it for mates rates as I do .
When you have to send out parts for machining, things quickly become uncheap. The hubs would need to match the CV splines and have the correct offset, and then you'd need to redrill the disks and drums to match.
I loved that pause, it's gonna be hard to beat me off...the line.
It would have been really interesting to see the expert compare the WEDS to the rep wheels
This gave me super early on MCM vibes! Loved it! Very excited for this series.
It's a shame they seem to be throwing the 206 under the bus, it's definitely the less popular car but it's a bit of an underdog, would like to see a Peugeot win back some bit of cred. Hope they don't just end up scrapping it or something at the end of this series.
I hope they do. Having had to work on several of these piles of merde they have few redeeming features.
"Hard to beat off...the line"🤣
So basically @donutmedia hi car lowcar?.....
except mcm didn't have to sell out to do it. 👌
@@preysidius190 eeeh maybe not their entire brand but we do see catastrophes like the E30 once in a while.
Damn, this series will be like the track car series that Donut Media made. Cheap vs. expensive mods.
A nice format indeed, and I am curious to see how the cars turn out in the end 😁😁
Absolutely fantastic editing!
“…hard to beat me off….the line” 😂😂😂
Always cash over trash for wheels. 18 lb wheels vs 33 lb wheels and you notice a huge difference in getting power to the ground. Thanks for sharing guys. Funny that the pug gets the trash parts 😂
Looking forward to the results .. real world on the peugrot for a lot of people new to cars on a budget 👍
Lmao "I'm gonna be hard to beat off.. *pause*... the line"
I'm really excited to see this series, looking good! Maybe a quick explanation about unsprung weight when comparing the weight of the wheels would be good, adding 4 kg on the wheels is not the same as carrying it inside the car.
The Mk6 (Gen V) Fiesta ST uses the Pug wheel pattern 4 x 108. Pug wheels have a much wider offset from my research into getting some for my ford. Be interested to see how you get on and how well they sit in the well. Watching keenly!
I'm on/off with watching MCM but I will not miss a video on this series!
I love watching these kinds of series! Can't wait for the next episode.
Maaaan that editing is tight. It's better than most TV.
Aww I would've been awesome if the cash went on the Peugeot 😂 Awesome series guys, keep it!
Love the concept of this series.
Bit Suss there Marty 😉 “Hard to beat off… the line” 😂
Another well made episode beginning a series that's going to be great. Disappointed though to watch an episode about wheels and tyres but at no point are we shown each vehicle once installed.
Citroen C5 "steelies" is where it's at for the Peugeot. 15", 4x108, dirt cheap cuz look like steel wheels, but actually aluminium alloy and crazy light, lighter than Ultraleggeras and other expensive ones.
Gonna be hard to beat off.
The line 😂
The Peugeot is already perfect and fast so it doesn't need expensive parts 😂 But that swift is going to need a lot to compete against the Peugbro 🏎️
Nice show.
Tho, wrong size tires for the frenchman, should be 205/40/17
Nice to see you moding a Peugeot using the same parts bin as they do in the factory. Keeping the purity
Lovely, can't wait to see where this goes
"Out of the bin!"
Hard to beat off… the line 😂
Oh I'm fired up for this series!!
No joke! Why am I so excited about this series?!?
Great idea for a series concept! I'm looking forward to this,
If Martin doesn’t get MaxPeedingRods coilovers, I’m rioting.
U guys been bloody awesome letting time fly by since being in hospital
4x108 were on the Dentist Jet, too. So Peugeot, Ford, Saab, and limited Volvo. Super common.
"I'm going to be hard to beat off...the line" 😂😅
Hell yeah, Australian HiLow!
I've been watching religiously for a few years now, just started going back to watch every episode, I'm on season 8 right now!
back to the roots. i love it!
Feel like I have to say that the issue with Marty's wheel cracking is nothing whatsoever to do with it being made of recycled metal, it's about the ductility of the metal (how far it will deform before fracturing). Those cheap (and old wheels) would have been cast and cooled very quickly, which results in larger crystalline structure of the metal and as a result, lower ductility.
Love the wheel expert 😅👍
Love these kinds of series back to the roots of mcm!
A little high car low car action!
I love this type of comparison.
Mark from Barrel bros is a legend. They refurbished my 18 inch ss vy wheels even though that's not there scene.
BEST SERIES YET !!!!!!
Looking forward to this series!!
‘I’m gonna be hard to beat off… the line’😅😅😅
"Lawn Furniture and cocaine' -love it! Hahaha
I've been smiling and genuinely laughing throughout the entire episode - great stuff!!!
Wheels are definitely one of those things I always spends money on, I've had too many bad experiences with cheap wheels. My tip would be to buy good wheels second hand, if you know whay you're looking for you can get some really good deals