SUMMONING EXPLAINED - how it works? Color with the best odds? Detailed Fire Emblem Heroes FEH guide

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • How to summon in Fire Emblem Heroes
    I've been summoning for years now, and truth be told, I've heard so many things from so many sources that I got totally confused on what banners are good and how summoning works at all, therefore I've put together this video with tons of graphic material to make it really understandable for everyone. So I hope you will enjoy this video and hopefully learn a thing or two to improve your summoning experience!
    ▬ Overview ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    00:00 Intro
    02:20 The creation of the summoning circle
    08:18 Knowledge applied - The free seasonal Hero
    10:10 How our expectations affect the outcome
    13:19 Maximize chances on our free summons
    14:40 Summoning chances revealed
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Комментарии • 322

  • @Eldervi
    @Eldervi  3 года назад +17

    Watch the 2nd part here ----> ruclips.net/video/zsBEOHe7Anw/видео.html

  • @Pheonixmaster1
    @Pheonixmaster1 3 года назад +298

    Eldervi is the most underrated RUclipsr.
    change my mind
    Extremely great video guys, love your presentation style!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +24

      so many thanks!!! *-* this really means a lot to us =3

    • @OchtendjasLama
      @OchtendjasLama 3 года назад +7

      Hey PM1! I started following this channel a couple of days ago. It's indeed a great channel.

    • @kelybrz
      @kelybrz 3 года назад

      Pm1 ily

  • @gersubdenis6724
    @gersubdenis6724 3 года назад +97

    To summarize the first part in one sentence: heroes from your summoning circle have already been determined when the game shows you the colored orbs not after you picked a colored orb

  • @promisemeonething
    @promisemeonething 3 года назад +140

    Haha, I also didn't get a colorless orb on the free seasonal pick 😭
    This was very informative, thank you!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +14

      I knew I would find new soulmates XD

    • @yuuunaa4364
      @yuuunaa4364 3 года назад +4

      Oo nice to find you here promise

    • @pewaq
      @pewaq 3 года назад +4

      i was literally finding a green orb for merging my grima but its colorless only i wish i can switch with u

    • @EnergyBurst2
      @EnergyBurst2 3 года назад

      I was wanting Green and got only one and it wound up being S! Silvain, who I have no use for.

  • @Sancnea
    @Sancnea 3 года назад +88

    You know, I've often said that you guys put way too much effort into your videos, but this one really takes the cake. I've seen enough videos on summoning to already know most of this, but this is by far the best one and will be the video I recommend to anyone that has any misconceptions on summoning. Literally anyone playing this game could understand what you're saying in this video. So much info with calculations and the visuals to match them. There's also the right amount of humor (imo) to keep people interested throughout the video. Looking forward to the second part.
    Edit: Seth? I'm sorry, but there's no way it isn't Raigh and you can't convince me otherwise.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +5

      Thank you so so much for this amazing comment and compliment! That means so much to us!
      Well, I guess everyone has their own Seth. XD Yours is Raigh and Waifu-Vi's is Sheena

  • @vantage8435
    @vantage8435 3 года назад +61

    I didn't got any colourless in the free 5 star and chose red and got Seth

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +13

      sounds reasonable, I'm sure it happened like that!

  • @seththeace6217
    @seththeace6217 3 года назад +38

    Don't be disappointed when Seth shows up. Make Seth a beast like he is in sacred stones, and every time you summon him, you will have a moment of happiness.

  • @user-mq1ng6sj7b
    @user-mq1ng6sj7b 3 года назад +27

    I'm not going to tell anyone to shut up.
    However I did get Flayn on the free summon

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +6

      Oh ok that's nice. ^^ So you aren't the one I was talking about in the video. Congrats on your free Flayn!

  • @Eldervi
    @Eldervi  3 года назад +82

    Was this video helpful? Did you learn something new or understand something better? If you have questions, please leave them in the comment section, so I may cover them in the second part of the video ^-^

    • @Notokdario
      @Notokdario 3 года назад +1

      I got all green, and got the worst possible one of all greens, ahh, I wanted reds, not greens as i have Edelgard already

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      @@Notokdario I'm sorry to hear that. So you got S!Sylvain? Or who did you get?

    • @CoffeeWings770
      @CoffeeWings770 3 года назад +1

      @@Eldervi Saw this on my recommendation feed, seems like RUclips is trying to tell me something. Extremely helpful and your humor is very entertaining! I feel like I understand the summoning process a bit more now.

    • @timthegatekeeper9677
      @timthegatekeeper9677 3 года назад

      Thanks to you, I summon more carefully. before I often summoned all five because I thought there was a 3 % chance for it to be 5 star but now that I know this I just try to pick the color(s) that I want. I feel like I have gotten way more 5 stars since watching this.

    • @qwert5854
      @qwert5854 Год назад

      This would have been relatively helpful except that I’m just now starting to play a year later 😢

  • @Hapsby
    @Hapsby 3 года назад +20

    I also have had just the worst luck on the free five star banners, so I feel that pain.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +2

      I'm sorry to hear that but now you found a Bad-Luck-Bro

  • @ArthurQuanHTa
    @ArthurQuanHTa 3 года назад +37

    Omg. I keep grabbing colorless thinking i have 11 percent chance to get a five stars unit when in reality, it’s only 6 %. Whereas red would have almost 20% to get something good. IS scam me with there percentages. Class action lawsuit. Any lawyers in here?

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +11

      I have to admit, collecting data for this video, that the creators of FEH have been evil geniuses by coming up with that summoning system... it looks so fair and promising while it's actually a rollercoaster xD if you find a lawyer I will sign up as well |D

  • @arispifagorio
    @arispifagorio 3 года назад +49

    You forger the rarer from the all ... the wom fodder ... is more rare even from a 5* ... anyway nice video

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +13

      WoM units never appear while summoning. Screenshots of these units are most likely photoshopped

  • @iloveminicactialot6895
    @iloveminicactialot6895 3 года назад +31

    Guys I wanna make a note. For the focus 5*, if there is a focus unit of every colour, the 3% Focus is divided by each focus unit, so you have a 0.75 chance of getting a Focus 5* when summoning in the Flayn-Seteth-Catherine-Shamir banner.
    In banner that have units colour sharing, like the new TH banner, there are two focus in blue. That means that, instead of having a 0.75% chance of getting Marianne, you have 1.5 % chance of getting Marianne or Ingrid. So colour sharing is actually better, specially in banners with spark. You will get the unit you want, and have a better chance of getting something along the way, SO STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS BANNER

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +12

      that's very true, colorsharing does increase the number of 5-stars per orb a lot, but I will give this topic an own part in the second video, as there is still more to it

    • @dantefilsdesparda
      @dantefilsdesparda 3 года назад +7

      That's true !
      But when you try to get L!Claude and get 4 Mila instead you're still very angry ! 😡

    • @iloveminicactialot6895
      @iloveminicactialot6895 3 года назад +4

      @@dantefilsdesparda but in Legendary Banners it doesn't work like that. In Legendary, you have to divide 8% chance between 12 units, which it's a 0.66 chance of getting that unit you're looking for. That's a 2% chance of getting any 5* in every colour, I repeat, ANY 5*. As you see, the odds for getting that specific unit are lower than in a normal banner.
      In Legendary Banners, you are supposed to get more 5* than usual, but the chance of getting the unit you want is lower than usual. They're somewhat of a scam

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      @@dantefilsdesparda So so true and sad, I've been there and I agree this game can be cruel!

    • @dantefilsdesparda
      @dantefilsdesparda 3 года назад +3

      @@iloveminicactialot6895 I think you missunderstood what I wanted to say. I'll try to be more clear.
      I AGREE with what you wrote about the TH banner. I add a personal experience (4 Mila and no Claude) because I thought it was fun, and because it's about colour sharing.
      Let's assume I have a 4 colorless focus heroes.
      The proba of getting 4 Mila is low (1/81=0.012) while having at least one Claude is high (1-16/81=65/81=0.8).
      So I just said I was angry to have so many Mila and not a single Claude. The same goes for 3H focus : if I want Ingrid and not Marianne and I have 4 Mariannes and not a single Ingrid, I will be angry.
      What I meant is that a colour sharing is a double edge sword.
      Yeah, as you said, it raises the rate of 5* focus heroes we get : 5,64% chance to have a focus hero if you click blue.
      However, if you click on a blue orb, you are less likely to have Ingrid if Marianne is blue too. I used the numbers shown in the video at 14:12 to illustrate :
      -if both Marianne and Ingrid are blue, you have 2,82% chance to have Ingrid if you click on a blue orb
      -if Marianne was red, you would have 2,90% chance to get Ingrid
      Besides, it can be very frustrating if you're unlucky, it's like a taunt of the game that gives you a focus hero but not the good one.
      That's just what I wanted to point out.
      Also I have nothing against Marianne, that's just an exemple !

  • @Hapsby
    @Hapsby 3 года назад +17

    Thank you for explaining how summoning works in a way that I can actually understand. I always wondered if the heroes were pre-selected when you faced the orb screen.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      You're welcome and thx for your feedback!

    • @yinsomniac4128
      @yinsomniac4128 3 года назад +6

      Yeah honestly that thought always horrified me since day one

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      @@yinsomniac4128 I understand that!

  • @majoraspirit6139
    @majoraspirit6139 3 года назад +34

    Just in time for my Marianne summoning

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +3

      In this case GOOD LUCK for tomorrow! Do you only want 1 copy or do you plan to merge her?

    • @majoraspirit6139
      @majoraspirit6139 3 года назад +5

      @@Eldervi thank you:). I’d like to plus 10 her because she is my favorite but I am not going all in because cyl 5 has her as well. I’ll just try to get as many as I can.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +2

      that's a good decision. with her skillset she will likely end up on many skill banners and maybe even in an upcoming hero fest, and both of these have better odds to get many copies of her ^^

    • @spookeditz3519
      @spookeditz3519 3 года назад +1

      I hope your summons went well I say mine did I got 2 irenes and 1 Marianne in 20 orbs and 4 tickets

    • @majoraspirit6139
      @majoraspirit6139 3 года назад

      @@spookeditz3519 haha thank you, I ended up not being able to control myself and got 5 Mariannes and 6 Ingrids with a bunch of random characters in 1,100 orbs. I learned that colorsharing sucks the hard way

  • @lyraaamaeee3631
    @lyraaamaeee3631 3 года назад +4

    I recently started playing FEH and this was super useful!! Your guides are a huge help and I'm learning more and more about the game, it's so addicting!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you so much for your feedback! I'm always happy to be of help!

  • @MidoCounters
    @MidoCounters 3 года назад +1

    Very educational, thank you! Looking forward to part 2.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you very much

  • @dam777felover8
    @dam777felover8 3 года назад +15

    Can't wait for the second part, i had a discussion about the states of demote units. I want a flier lance for my arena core and my choises were two, seteth and gale, for now i have a +8 gale vs a 0 seteth 3 star with bad iv

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      that's indeed a good topic, I will give it some thought and add a section about it!

  • @AshuRawRun
    @AshuRawRun 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful and easy to understand, thanks for making this very instructive video !

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      You're very welcome and I'm happy to hear that it was helpful for you

  • @vongrobel88
    @vongrobel88 3 года назад +1

    I think I've never seen the summoning explained better! Great video!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you so much for the great compliment!

  • @diegovillanueva7575
    @diegovillanueva7575 3 года назад +1

    Looking forward to part 2! So much work put into this video which was very easy to understand even with all those numbers around. Kinda sad to realize that most of my 5* projects are colorless and blue. I got a VFaye btw not the greatest yet not bad, I was hoping for a PTibarn.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you so much for your feedback! Part two will drop this Thursday, I hope you'll enjoy the upcoming video as well. I'm sorry to hear you didn't get P!Tibarn, he's really a great unit. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, that you might pull him with a free summon on his rerunbunner.

  • @the.fremen
    @the.fremen 3 года назад +1

    awesome video, cannot wait for part 2!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you very much!

  • @princeofsilesse8803
    @princeofsilesse8803 3 года назад +1

    Sehr informativ und zugänglich strukturiert.Vielen Dank! 😍

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Gern geschehen und Danke zurück für das Feedback!

  • @slateportraichu5416
    @slateportraichu5416 3 года назад +1

    Saw thison PM1 twitter and now I am here=3 Thank you, this was so interesting and informative=3

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Glad you're here. ;D Thank you!

  • @darkkyosukecrono
    @darkkyosukecrono 3 года назад +1

    Very informative, I think I understand better the whole process. Thank you so much!
    I got two reds, one blue, one green, and one colorless. I wanted Young Marth, or Duo Sigurd, but I got a +Res -Hp Spring Idunn. In the Seiros banner I wanted Legendary Julia and Flayn, but ended with two Seiros and two Legendary Alm xD. (Pardon my grammar, English is not my first language)

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Thank you that's great to hear.
      But at least you got a very good unit with Spring Idunn, it could have been even worse XD But I also understand and know how frustrating this gambling can be. I'm sorry to hear that the Legendary Banner didn't work out for you as well. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that you'll be luckier next time!

  • @shinkuaoganech.6173
    @shinkuaoganech.6173 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for posting this video. Subscribed!

  • @weinschorIe
    @weinschorIe 3 года назад +8

    Damn, this is awesome! It's always Palla by the way

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +3

      Thanks a lot! It's so interesting to hear about all these seths out there! XD

  • @bm4604
    @bm4604 3 года назад +2

    Yo the amount of effort put into these videos are insane . Plus i like the dive into summoning science. Kinda 1up Akariss in this one, and this type of stuff is his bread and butter .

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you so much for the great compliment!

  • @_Slog_
    @_Slog_ 3 года назад +8

    It really is always Seth. And then Libra on the greens, lately.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +2

      Great, so I'm not the only one. Welcome to the 100% Seth nightmare

  • @YikYakTikTak
    @YikYakTikTak 3 года назад +4

    This is actually very useful. A lot of the info feels like "Oh yeah, duh!" kind of info; and yet I completely forget it whenever I summon! 😂😅 So having something to visualize it is very helpful

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback! I'm always happy to be of help :D

  • @Nepu_Nep
    @Nepu_Nep 3 года назад +3

    Me who just wanted to complete my Veronica collection: alright green orb cool!
    Game: C O R A L B O W

  • @dantefilsdesparda
    @dantefilsdesparda 3 года назад +1

    Great video ! Now I know how the game select heroes.
    Now I will perhaps calc for next summons when I don't know what color to pick (perhaps, sometimes I don't care about a focus so I won't waste time to count how many heroes there are in each color).

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you and I'm happy you found some useful inforamtion for you.

  • @maskilraid7802
    @maskilraid7802 3 года назад +2

    A great visualisation of how the summoning system worked. Well done. I had written the article regarding this topic as well, and the visualisation is definitely congruent to my findings.
    Can't wait for the 2nd part, as merging units is probably a big point of discussion regarding pulling for units. Spoilers alert; Legendary Banners is mega sus.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      very true! where can I find your article? I'd like to check my current information as much as possible to prevent giving out false information ^^

    • @maskilraid7802
      @maskilraid7802 3 года назад +1

      @@Eldervi It's on GamePress, iirc it's called "Know the Odds". It's written a pretty long time ago, but most of it is still accurate.

  • @BrntVanilla
    @BrntVanilla 3 года назад +3

    Same yall, no colorless orbs for that free 5 star summoning event

  • @GuranPurin
    @GuranPurin 3 года назад +3

    How am I supposed to get mad all my pity breaks aren't Keaton now?
    But seriously, well done on this video! Lots of effort and it's really well structured!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +2

      I'm so sorry, it was careless of me taking away my watchers ability to get mad about summonings, I want to apologize although I know the damage can't be undone... but... erm... ITS IS'S FAULT THAT KEATON DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIAL SUMMON RATE ONLY FOR HIM, so... yeah, you may be really mad about that!
      :)

  • @s4rcelle
    @s4rcelle 3 года назад +1

    Looking forward to part 2!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you! The second part will drop next Thursday.

  • @DeathsFlagShip
    @DeathsFlagShip 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video. I have a way better grasp

  • @vilesterben1215
    @vilesterben1215 3 года назад +2

    Give this guy a spotlight!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you so much!

  • @crystalelemental6440
    @crystalelemental6440 3 года назад +1

    Finally, a mathematical breakdown of why Colorless sniping is always a dumpster fire. Topical given how much pain I'm in after trying to get Valentine's Faye merges. Too bad I also didn't get a colorless stone on the anniversary pick. At least the Green orb was Grima...
    This is a really good guide, and as someone who understands the conceptual reason actual rates aren't what's advertised, this still had a lot of information I didn't know about. I really like the visual breakdown, and the full calculations of your actual odds. Looking forward to part 2!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      so many thanks! I did learn a lot as well, and part 2 might even get better =O

  • @zoeholmes2134
    @zoeholmes2134 3 года назад +8

    do ya’ll remember that time i spent 170 orbs on claude and did not get a single 5 star

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +4

      these times are so horrible... let's hope it won't happen again

  • @anonymousplayer4823
    @anonymousplayer4823 3 года назад +5

    I went red, got zihark, and nearly broke a hole in the universe with how fast I was going to throw my phone

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Oh no! XD I think the universe is still quite fine but I hope your phone is as well!

  • @Controcetica
    @Controcetica 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for this video. I though that the colours were generated first, then the rarity/category, then the hero. I think that would be a much fairer way to do it. Which is obviously why they don't do it. Now I understand why my luck can be so bad when sniping though. The pity rate is working, but the 5-stars were just being generated as different colours so I missed them by sniping. It also explains why when I finally DO get a 5-star and complete the circle I often get two 5-stars in that one circle. It isn't insane luck, it is the pity-rate working as advertised and generating more 5-stars. For example I remember getting Lucina and Brave Lucina in the same circle on a revival banner, I got Pirate Tibarn and Pirate Veronica in the same circle and I got NY Plumeria and M!Byleth in the same circle. I think I have got others too, but they are the ones that I remember off the top of my head.

  • @yvovaldebenito8290
    @yvovaldebenito8290 3 года назад +11

    mfw when i got Lynja with the free pull and got another one in the free 5* summon

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +6

      how dare you! I wish you nothing but pain on the AHR banner |D now you will probably even dare to say that you foddered her off for ss3 xDDD

    • @yvovaldebenito8290
      @yvovaldebenito8290 3 года назад +5

      @@Eldervi looooool no, i'll never do something crazy like that, they're carrying me on the VoH right now :D

  • @dakota7309
    @dakota7309 3 года назад +1

    probably the best feh related video ive ever seen 👁👁

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Oh wow thank you so much for the great compliment!

    • @dakota7309
      @dakota7309 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi it is simply da facts my friend, please dont forget what made it so great and continue doing that!

  • @piper2257
    @piper2257 2 года назад

    I get the feeling but lmao i'd love to get a summer leo haha
    Thank you for the clear explanation though ♡ I only trusted my luck w this game lmao

  • @PillowStacker1
    @PillowStacker1 3 года назад +1

    Edervi: I fear no man, but that thing
    Feh owl
    Eldervi: it scares me.

  • @Forakus
    @Forakus 3 года назад +1

    Could've used this video about 3000 orbs ago, great work!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Oh oh Ö.Ö What happened? And Thanks!

  • @azules2688
    @azules2688 3 года назад +1

    thank you so much!

  • @xplaygamer
    @xplaygamer 3 года назад +2

    That was really helpful information. I thought something seemed suspicious with their "statistics".

  • @Y0kAiS
    @Y0kAiS 3 года назад +1

    extremely helpful

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      so many thanks!

  • @5C0RP_
    @5C0RP_ 3 года назад +4

    In Free 5* Seasonal Banner , it got me 3 colorless 1 green and 1 blue , but for some reason I pick Green bc i want Bridal Nailah or Furry Grima .
    Both of them didn't appeared to me but instead Ninja Laevatein come to mine and im honestly excited , so i can use Brave Axe unit xd

  • @ninjaydes
    @ninjaydes 3 года назад +5

    Poor V!Conrad. Can't even catch a break outside of game8's tier list.

  • @benjamingreenwood7370
    @benjamingreenwood7370 3 года назад +1

    I got Deghinsea, the one I dumped hundreds of orbs trying to get last halloween, so I'm happy with my pull on that banner.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      This sounds like an apology to you by the game XD

    • @benjamingreenwood7370
      @benjamingreenwood7370 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi It better have been. I bet it knew. Goddamn thing is all seeing, all knowing, I swear.

  • @lineperfect6242
    @lineperfect6242 3 года назад +2

    Super helpful! I only understood some simple things before like the color overlay and whatnot, never bothered to read the whole book of summoning mechanics. Once you've finished part 2, what do you think about doing this for AI? I know you've touched on it before but doing it in this style would really help drill it into my and others heads

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      an AI guide would be great, but to be really honest, I'm not sure I understand enough about it to execute it in a good way. summoning is pretty much straight forward, but the AI works so differently for different setups that nearly every map would need an own guide, and even then it's often hard to tell what will happen unless you know the slot order of the enemy team @_@ even watching my own replays I sometimes don't understand what the AI is doing even though I watch the same team again and again... I hate the AI xD

  •  3 года назад +1

    What a funny video! I can confirm that it's always Seth! I loved him in SS but heroes make me hate him!
    Greetings from Guatemala!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Greetings back from Germany ^^ FEH does make it difficult to love some of the 3 and 4 star heroes even though they were awesome in their own game xD

  • @starbonkers0724
    @starbonkers0724 3 года назад +7

    “Wait that red orb is always Seth?”
    “Always has been”
    There’s always a lot to learn from you. Keep up the good work! I also had a crappy pull on the free special heroes banner, i just wanted S!Ingrid dammit

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Yeah, a red orb means Seth, trust me on that ;D
      Thanks a lot for the compliment and I'm sorry that the special heroes banner didn't work out for you as well.

  • @makaihana975
    @makaihana975 3 года назад +6

    Nothing is guaranteed unless you have deep pockets.

  • @Gekkotsu93
    @Gekkotsu93 3 года назад +3

    21:00 "All *S E T H* !" - Kiria quote
    My high struggle summon session was Hero Fest pulling on Shinon with each free 20 orbs getting nothing. Then, last 9 hours left, spent last 20 orbs getting only 2nd Leila with pity rate 6,53%. I hope A Hero Rises 2021 banner can make ez summons on 2 pulls, otherwise the Wallet will die for orb packs. Also, thank you for this video on summons.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      that's rough. It sadly can go either way though, nothing is guaranteed in this game. That's why Forma Halls are actually my most favorite game-mode, they provide all the gameplay fun of the game without having to think about money even once... assuming you're not hardcore collecting skills for a forma soul ^^

    • @Gekkotsu93
      @Gekkotsu93 3 года назад +1

      @@Eldervi Yeah, and i still buy the forma pack once for month looking units with best skills. Random RNG is made to pick random skills. Rein skills are still consider rare to obtain. Grail units on Hall of Forms is best way to save other grails and end quickly the grail project.

  • @jollygator9080
    @jollygator9080 2 года назад

    I really like the chart at 4:00
    Do you think you could make one for the AHR banner but tailor it to the green orb?

  • @jayday3818
    @jayday3818 3 года назад +1

    Great video, I appreciate the really visual explanation. Audio was kind of weird, only really heard it through the left side?

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you! To be honest we're not that experienced when it comes to Audio. We always try our best to improve but I have no clue why you only really heard it through the left side, sorry.

    • @jayday3818
      @jayday3818 3 года назад +1

      @@Eldervi No worries, it wasn't so bad that it made the video worse, just something I noticed.
      On another note, I have a hypothesis about this game you may have interest in testing. I think that your numeric player ID is used as a seed in the character pull randomization math. It explains why some folks can +10 a hero easily, while others go years without pulling a single copy of someone - i.e. I'm a day 1 player and I've never gotten a single Eiphram.
      I'm not sure how testable this would be, but it seems more viable than time tables or other methods of randomization. I'm also not sure how you could test it, but thought you might want to take a crack, since you're so good at the maths. :-)

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      I honestly don't think I'm that good at maths xD it's an intriguing theory but I actually don't think such a system would be in the interest of IS. They want you to spend money on the game, so never getting something you want is not directly in their interest as it takes away your passion for the whole game, while being qualified to summon a specific hero with a really low orb number isn't in their favor as well. I think in the end the chances for summoning single heroes by accident (so only by the regular summoning pool or free summons) is so small, that even the added amount of chances over a long time are not nearly enough to make summoning such characters close to certain.

  • @stormtrooper000
    @stormtrooper000 3 года назад +1

    Great video. One minor correction. In your maths, you assumed that the 3-star & 4-star pools have the same colour distribution. However, since we have 4-star demotes that are not available in 3-star yet, that'll change the colour distribution slightly between the two pools. That shouldn't have too much impact on your numbers though.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      is that so? I was wondering about that myself and was actually trying to research this, but the game lists demotes like Seteth both in the 3star and 4 star pool. Which heroes are not in the 3 star pool?

    • @stormtrooper000
      @stormtrooper000 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi After the latest round of demotes, I believe that Lex is currently the only one, who will be joined by Linhardt. The list will continue to grow during the year, until the demotes next year.

  • @lozzaw7087
    @lozzaw7087 3 года назад +3

    Good video,
    Definitely a feels bad moment when you dont get a colour you want, or if you get the colour but end up with a dupe (that happened to me)
    But ya'll just gotta remember its just a game 😅
    -ggty

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      who did you end up with?

    • @lozzaw7087
      @lozzaw7087 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi Its a bit late for a reply, but i ended up with Sephiran ;)

  • @Fuu_Sho
    @Fuu_Sho 3 года назад +2

    At the moment I cannot be mad at the summoning. The last 2 weeks were a blessing for me. I got everything I wanted with very very low orb spending (I am f2p). More than that, I got very good 5 star units on random summonings all the time. Not sure whats happening, but aslong as I am this lucky I´ll spend few more orbs until it stops.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      That's great! I'm happy for you and hope your lucky streak won't end soon! :D

    • @KuroHebi
      @KuroHebi 3 года назад

      I'm crossing my fingers that your luck streak lasts for a long time. Good luck!

  • @mp_rho
    @mp_rho 3 года назад +3

    coincidentally, my computer desk is set up to be facing the east.

  • @josueravena3464
    @josueravena3464 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the guide about summoning. Thankfully im used to play gacha games. For some reason I even surprised myself when i get a first summon five star. I got duo sigurd in my first summon in the double special or even have a Nailah on a forging bond tickets. The weirdest one is in the free pull, i wanna get pirate Tibarn because im a sucker for hot men, then i got a dancer dorothea which made me, whoa... theirs like a 3 houses in resonant battles at the time, I don't have three houses dancers and I was like, is this for real? Talk about coincidence... For mine specifically, I have four colorless and one red...
    But the bad news is whenever i get lucky in Feh, I ended up having bad luck in genshin! Yuck...

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Oh wow with Duo Sigurd you indeed were so lucky! I would love to have one, he's such an amazing unit! Congratulations on your lucky pulls but also sorry to hear that you seam to have luck just for one game and not for both.

  • @chrispyynugget1537
    @chrispyynugget1537 3 года назад +1

    So when IS adds stuff like 4 star focus heroes and 4 star specials to the summoning pool, does that increase chances of getting 5 stars or focus units even if it's only by a small difference or are these mechanics added in adjusted to be just as rare while making the 3-4 star pool still very prominent?

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      I actually covered this question in the second part =D 4 star focus heroes do increase also the odds for the other colors, as the chance is taken out of the usual 4-star rate, so, so the other colors have "3% less " to fear about a 4-star hero. The effect is very minimal though, with only ~20 orbs difference to +10 a unit on average, but it's nice to know ^^

    • @chrispyynugget1537
      @chrispyynugget1537 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi ah ok! I'll make sure to watch the second part when I have the time!

  • @DjayT.
    @DjayT. 3 года назад +20

    In the end, the chances of you getting your hero of choice is 50/50, because you either get him or you don't

  • @MrAnime4lyfe
    @MrAnime4lyfe 3 года назад +2

    I DID get a colorless orb on my free summon. It just so happens that I got Sephiran, who was probably the only unit I DIDN'T really want lol.
    But on the other hand, I +10'ed Raphael in around 550ish orbs and on my second account, I managed to +10 Shinon in around 900ish orbs, which is pretty damn good luck. So its a mixed bag for me lol.
    The issue lies with not what what values are truly good value. Outside of the Hero Fest banners, everything else seems kinda shitty. ESPECIALLY Legendary Banners as my luck is always awful on those.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      I'm sure tons of AR players are reading this, scratching out their own eyes simply from imagining someone not wanting a free sephiran xDDDD

    • @MrAnime4lyfe
      @MrAnime4lyfe 3 года назад +1

      @@Eldervi 😂😂 Unfortunately, I don't really care for AR at all. I'll still fodder him for his C skill but it's definitely not gonna be as valuable for me as others would have found it.

  • @KoopaKoot
    @KoopaKoot 3 года назад +3

    I'm stupid and I free summoned Marianne. Also you should totally make vids showing the numbers for every banner. 😁

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Congrats on your free summon! I post the numbers for every banner on my Twitter: twitter.com/ElderviArt and also Reddit: www.reddit.com/user/Eldervi/

  • @douseXD
    @douseXD 3 года назад +1

    In the next banner of Hero Rise what do you recommend speaking about probabilitys? I have 2 accounts
    Account 1: 2100 orbs (two copys of Lyn already) but i don't know if with my orbs i have Better chances of getting +10 units in blue
    Account 2: 1500+ orbs (3 Seiros and 3 Dimitris already) it's possible or likely that i reach a +10 unit with that amount?

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      well, it's of course possible, and I did cover the AHR banner with all chances in the second part, so you may watch that for the full analysis.
      the average number for 11 copies are 1850 orbs, so 1500 for 8 copies or 2100 for 9 or 11 both sound reasonable. I guess it comes down more to the units you really want to have, I would argue (unpopular) that Lyn and Corrin are better than Seiros and Dimitri, but seeing as you already have those two on the second account, this will be the best chance you will ever get to +10 them if that's your goal :D

    • @douseXD
      @douseXD 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi thanks for the info, of course i see today de second part, great work, you make understand better how summon works!

  • @edvinalvaradogranillo6808
    @edvinalvaradogranillo6808 3 года назад +1

    Uh, I'm a new f2p player. Thanks for the video, I understand how this works.
    Btw, the CYL banner (that one with the 4 units from that event that give a free lyn) that come in 2 weeks is good? I have like 500 orbs but idk if that banner would be a good investment.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      covered this and even more facts in my recent video =D

  • @thegreatblazer2708
    @thegreatblazer2708 3 года назад +1

    I don't know if this made me feel better or worse over the fact that I am +10ing Brave Claude in like 2 months, but very cool Eldervi, very cool.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Where do you expect him to appear in 2 months? Hero-Fest is off the board this time, isn't it?
      the best odds would be if he ended up on a 3 person skill banner, might not be too unlikely given that the has fury, chill and rein, all three of them would make good future skill banners.

    • @thegreatblazer2708
      @thegreatblazer2708 3 года назад +1

      @@Eldervi Why would it be off board? While Lys has rerun, all CYL Fests bar CYL 3 because that group didn't get a Legendary Banner rerun, has been in Late April-Early May, regardless if the group has run premptively. Either way I'd be fine with a skills banner or the rerun of the base banner which would still line up in the time frame.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      well, it would be great if we got a hero fest, I was just assuming as the CYL3 Hero Fest was the one we got for the anniversary it might be off, but you are right, CYL2 Hero Fest was around April, so maybe IS will be generous with us ^^

  • @flight_knight_
    @flight_knight_ 3 года назад +1

    I love your videos

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you so much!

  • @M2BLAQ
    @M2BLAQ 2 года назад +1

    A colorless orb appeared in my free summon so I picked that one because I wanted only Tibarn in that banner. I got him!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад

      that's amazing, congrats!

    • @M2BLAQ
      @M2BLAQ 2 года назад

      @@Eldervi Thank you! But I used up all of my luck on that banner haha

    • @azuresea7183
      @azuresea7183 2 года назад

      @@Eldervi please do an updated version of this video.🤨🤔🧐

  • @Calvados656
    @Calvados656 3 года назад +1

    I got lucky on my free 5* pull. I wanted bridal Micaiah and I got bridal Micaiah. :D
    Much better than last years free 5* pull... I still glare at bridal Sigrun whenever I pass by her on my list of 5* units.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Congratulations, bridal Micaiah is great! And it seems like the brides like you XD

  • @sarenarterius6217
    @sarenarterius6217 3 года назад +1

    For a gacha game, the spike thing in 40 th summon is very friendly. Now, I always wait to summon using this, and choice the unit I most want... all others banners, I pass now.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      You're right the spark system was the best improvement to summoning they've invented!

  • @doriansz3130
    @doriansz3130 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful explenation.
    P. S Bist du aus Deutschland? 🤔

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Thank you!
      Und ja bin ich. ;D

  • @sir_coma60
    @sir_coma60 3 года назад +1

    If i were a summon streamer, i would have compiled a spreadsheet to calculate my chances during summon sessions, and show it on screen.
    That way, it would be more fun and engaging for the viewers and my sanity!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      I've tried to do something similar in my previous summoning videos, but working on this one gave me also a new idea I'd like to try for my big summoning session in march ^-^

  • @romanparraz9842
    @romanparraz9842 3 года назад +1

    Wow with a summoning system like this I still somehow managed to pull every unit on the freyja and triandra mythic banner a while back.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Well, we are only talking about average results, to get these there have to be players at both the lucky and the unlucky side ^-^

    • @romanparraz9842
      @romanparraz9842 3 года назад +1

      @@ElderviI guess I was pretty damn lucky for that banner. Haven't been as lucky since though especially on L!Claudes banner and also on the current 3H banner with Marianne, I wasn't even getting much blue stones. But it's fine once I reach 40 summons, I'm gonna be sparking for her anyways

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      @@romanparraz9842 In my opinion the spark was one of the best improvements they made when it comes to summoning.

    • @romanparraz9842
      @romanparraz9842 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi I'm so glad it exists. Almost at 40 summons and managed to pull an Ingrid but with -spd iv. She still outspeeds alot units despite having -spd. Still wish it could've been +spd though.

  • @piper2257
    @piper2257 2 года назад

    I tried to get ascended fjorm with like 70 orbs and got a lot of merric, bartre and seth (whenever i picked red)

  • @Gligar1
    @Gligar1 3 года назад +7

    I didn't get a green or colourless orb. Only red and blue. I got VConrad...

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      It's painful, isn't it? I'm so sorry for you getting VConrad out of all options, that hurts...

    • @Gligar1
      @Gligar1 3 года назад +1

      @@Eldervi I would've been good with most Green or Colourless units too...it was very painful.

  • @Alfonso88279
    @Alfonso88279 3 года назад

    But how can I know how many units of each color exist at the current time?

  • @ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul
    @ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul 3 года назад +3

    For your calculation of the 4 Star Special pool you made a big mistake as you included Laegjarn who is not in that pool. You also excluded Alm, Azura, Linde, and Amelia so that means there are 75 units in that pool with 31 Red, 18 Blue, 16 Green, and 11 Colorless. Asides from that though it is a very informative video.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +2

      that's indeed true, many thanks for telling me. I was afraid something like this might happen by the sheer amount of units @_@ thankfully the deviations are very low and also in pools which have low chances by themselves, so the presented end-numbers don't change in an impactful way, but I will fix it should I ever feel the need to do a 3rd video of the series, so many thanks for telling me =D

  • @antoniodicorato725
    @antoniodicorato725 3 года назад +1

    Now I know why I had almost no red and green orb in valentines banner. I even got pity broken by Claude lol

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      The game is mean isn't it?

    • @antoniodicorato725
      @antoniodicorato725 3 года назад +2

      @@Eldervi yes. At least that’s less suffering than the Lethe case

  • @Krest2701
    @Krest2701 3 года назад +1

    I did get a colorless orb, and it was Xane. The only demote possible, what are the chances of that ? So what is worse, getting no colorless orb so you know you are out of that pool for the beginning or getting a colorless orb and it being the worst possible case?

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      Sorry for that! Getting a demote in these banners is so painful!

  • @Fran_5
    @Fran_5 3 года назад +2

    10:11 Summoner 17 should get a lottery ticket.
    That dude straight up won.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      XDDD They totally should

  • @ryomanjord2614
    @ryomanjord2614 2 года назад

    Voting for New Years Dagr every single time :)

  • @AnimeFan-dl4qd
    @AnimeFan-dl4qd Год назад

    Do I have a chance in this game without this monthly pass? (with chance I mean getting some units I really want or is it just a pain in the ....)
    11:35 If you are afraid of that owl, you should be especially afraid of a certain owl called Mumei...

  • @fjveca
    @fjveca 3 года назад +2

    I didn't get a colorles orb on my free seasonal pick, and worst of it all my red orbe ended up being a Conrad...

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      that really hurts, I understand your pain T-T

  • @georgecalibur4172
    @georgecalibur4172 3 года назад +1

    My Apologies for saying that, but Spring Palla is a Blue Unit Now?

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      oops xD ya, mistakes happen when you're working with so many graphics, I didn't verify every single one of them ^^ doesn't hurt the overall explanation thankfully ^^

  • @calitz87
    @calitz87 3 года назад +6

    Jokes on you IS, I just re-installed last month so I kept re-rolling until I got a +Atk/-Def Dorothea. 🤪

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +6

      Well I guess that's an option for new players but kinda tricky for those who collected unites over 4 years now. XD

  • @cmvp8422
    @cmvp8422 3 года назад +1

    me too !

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      my condolences xD

  • @jj6148
    @jj6148 3 года назад +1

    I got NY!Plumeria +Atk -spd so....

  • @KuroHebi
    @KuroHebi 3 года назад +1

    I feel like the reason why 99% of the FEH payer base are left unsatisfied every time they leave a summoning session with four 4-star heroes and one 3-star unit is because IS doesn't add any value to 4-star heroes in the first place. A small quality update where they introduce a reason for players to actually use 4-stars other than for merge projects and "high quality" fodder would be appreciated. Maybe a game mode where 4-star heroes are permitted to battle only, with acceptable rewards (extra feathers for the chance to unlock potential). Those are my two cents on the subject.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      that's actually very true. I would have loved an update by now which let's them upgrade their tier3 skills to tier 4 skills with additional SP. They could make an exclusive border for that, so Hinata can learn Fury 4 as a 4 or 5 star, but you can only fodder fury 3 from him.

    • @KuroHebi
      @KuroHebi 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi that's a very interesting concept. Let the 4-star units have a chance at being truly useful, for once.

  • @astralguardian5930
    @astralguardian5930 3 года назад +1

    I got 3 5* Linhardt and honestly I kinda hate it. I mean I was mainly pulling colorless in hopes of getting the last Lena I need to +10 her but Linhardt just keeps coming over to ruin the day as a 5*.

  • @sampelletier9798
    @sampelletier9798 3 года назад +2

    As someone who rolled Hinoka, Shinon, and two Shamirs on one draw, it's fun to understand the statistics behind everything

  • @Viperacrx600
    @Viperacrx600 3 года назад +2

    My free seasonal was colorless! Summer Dorothea!

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      I'm pretty sure there are tons of players envying you ^^

  • @Ender-xx6li
    @Ender-xx6li 3 года назад +1

    I did get colorless, but it was the goddamn jester man

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад +1

      Sorry to hear that, that's disappointing.

  • @Buhlooey
    @Buhlooey 3 года назад +2

    Everyone's complaining about not getting a colorless orb like okay buddy it gave me my fourth Mia you're not missing out

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      it's just because we are used to be stuffed with colorless orbs while they always have the shitties units on them, and the one time it's the other way round we suddenly don't get the colorless-filled circles anymore xDDD

  • @auroraverdone4593
    @auroraverdone4593 3 года назад +1

    Now I see how it felt so hard for me to merge my Brave Claude +10 even with 2100+ FTP orbs. If the game hadn't given 2 copies for free I'm not sure I would have managed to merge him instantly like that since I got the 9th and last copy after like... 1700 orbs or so which is really a lot compared to the orbs I used. If I tried merging Lysithea or Edelgard I bet it would have taken me 1000 orbs or something probably

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  3 года назад

      I'm sorry to hear your merging summoning session didn't go that well. To merge colorless units can truly be a pain, I'm sure Edelgard would have been easier, yes. But still congrats on your +10 Claude, that's amazing!

    • @auroraverdone4593
      @auroraverdone4593 3 года назад

      @@Eldervi thanks! In the end he got merged as I wanted so I'm happy regardless. I just feel better knowing... I wasn't unlucky as I thought but it was to be expected