4 GREENS ON AHR? A Hero Rises Summoning chances explained + best heroes guide Fire Emblem Heroes FEH

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
  • Interim results are in and we have to face a difficult decision on who should make it on the AHR banner... and there are in fact right and wrong choices. Find out by exploring in-depth summoning chances on potential A Hero Rises banners. Spread the information and prevent Edelgard from happening =P
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    00:00 Interim Results
    00:45 AHR explained
    01:19 Unit availability
    03:26 Pool unit chances on AHR
    06:20 Seasonal unit chances on AHR
    08:21 Legendary unit chances on AHR
    11:25 TLDR; Best units for AHR
    12:52 AHR banner with all colors
    13:39 2 greens colorsharing
    15:09 2 greens 2 colorless colorsharing
    16:09 3 greens colorsharing
    17:51 4 greens colorsharing
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  • @mrbilter83
    @mrbilter83 2 года назад +75

    aight fellas time to beat Edelgard in the VG for the 3rd year in a row

    • @AniArtistMe
      @AniArtistMe 2 года назад +10

      She won entering AHR Votes but she always loses in VG 🤣

    • @bloodshadow6965
      @bloodshadow6965 2 года назад +6

      Sufficient aids i get seeing her sometimes. If she wins VG i will be very upset. VERY UPSET

    • @tariqmansour9891
      @tariqmansour9891 2 года назад +5

      time to show simps how we play around here

    • @bloodshadow6965
      @bloodshadow6965 2 года назад +4

      @@tariqmansour9891 its time to team up against the fat, evil and fat edelgard

    • @alexanderharrison7421
      @alexanderharrison7421 2 года назад

      It all depends on who she gets put up against
      If it's Azura Byleth or maybe Eitri she might win but anyone else'll kick her teeth in

  • @ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul
    @ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul 2 года назад +38

    Thanks this video has actually made me a lot more confident in putting my vote behind Legendary Byleth (M).

  • @darkhydra4262
    @darkhydra4262 2 года назад +101

    No offense to fedelgard fans, but I'm gonna be teaming against her in a hero rises. She brings down the banner numbers and the value of green seasonals/legends/mythics is too good to pass up. I'm hoping Thorr wins/makes top 4 but fedel losing means we get better greens and fodders on the banner as a whole. (Also it might make IS realize they shouldnt make just good green units in a single year lol).

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +37

      yeah, honestly, if thorr doesn't make top 8 I might just pick whoever goes up against Edelgard for voting gauntlets to help keeping her out for everyone's sake

    • @carlosramirez-zz8yl
      @carlosramirez-zz8yl 2 года назад +7

      more like full offense. seriously she’s been on so many banners (two which have been sparkable) and she’s in the regular pool. the one time we can make special and legendary/mythic units easier to get and sparkable (for those who don’t have feh pass) is the time we should be taking full advantage. so in short screw the fedel fans

    • @mysticpumpkin8520
      @mysticpumpkin8520 2 года назад +6

      Tbh, you are already making to good step of not making it personal. People are more willing to listen you when you dont act like an condecending a-hole

    • @mysticpumpkin8520
      @mysticpumpkin8520 2 года назад +4

      @@carlosramirez-zz8yl and thats how you dont convince people to support you. Pretty much this type of responses is what got the Edelgard fans so spirited last year. People will never listen to you of you act like a condesending a-hole that believes that knows better. In fact, it will do the exact opposite.

    • @Sukie._.
      @Sukie._. 2 года назад +3

      I own a 40+3 F!Edelgard, and honestly i agree she has appeared tons of times. I don’t understand why people are voting for her when she’s technically easy to get while the others are not. People are seriously gonna waste a free copy on a unit that we can get easily.
      And technically i kinda just proved my point i literally got a +3 Merge. That shows how many times she’s been on banners or how easy she is to get.

  • @leogh1378
    @leogh1378 2 года назад +3

    This video contributed to no small part of our green victory today! Thanks to you Eldervi, IS will be held at ransom in three weeks time.

  • @Greideren
    @Greideren 2 года назад +18

    A bunch of people are planning to kick Edie from the Voting Gauntlet in the very first round. Talk about nostalgic.
    I just wanted a chance to spark Thorr since she has so much value for me but since she's in 10th place that might not happen. Seems like I'll have to burn 3 month's worth of orbs to get a single copy of her, wish me luck I guess.

    • @turtle-bot3049
      @turtle-bot3049 2 года назад

      Good luck getting thorr whenever you go for her. She's a super fun unit to use.

    • @falinestixiaolong9691
      @falinestixiaolong9691 2 года назад

      We did it brother. ⚡

  • @skafrenzy5iron
    @skafrenzy5iron 2 года назад +27

    Let's get some more love for NY Dagr as she's the highest scoring unit in the game!

    • @random__idiot
      @random__idiot 2 года назад

      Plus Nott is my favourite OC...but mostly that pathfinder buff

    • @xchan99
      @xchan99 2 года назад +4

      Duo Chrom scores the same

    • @skafrenzy5iron
      @skafrenzy5iron 2 года назад +4

      @@xchan99 I've been taking a break from following the news too closely, but that makes sense with Change Fate. Because he's not out yet, and not in the round of Hero rises, Dagr is still highest scoring here.

    • @jsterdawg72
      @jsterdawg72 2 года назад

      100%

    • @schl4fmuetze
      @schl4fmuetze 2 года назад +2

      I think she's only so "low" because she hasn't been tapped too much, so you have to scroll pretty far down and see a lot of other good heroes on the way down. Been voting for her since I saw the interim results, she should definitely get in.

  • @gamegirl949
    @gamegirl949 2 года назад +8

    Been waiting for a breakdown like this! 😁 23 orbs per 5* would be insane! Let's make it happen!

  • @crocworks
    @crocworks 2 года назад +5

    Gonna vote in such a way to try and get a 4-green banner. Kicking out Fallen Edelgard is a priority.

  • @Salt-on-the-Rock
    @Salt-on-the-Rock 2 года назад +10

    I wish everyone would watch this, but chances are those who do are also not the individuals throwing votes at F!Edelgard. Such potential for the banner, but I am somewhat torn by the current hero fest. Pulled a bunch of L!Dimitri with free tickets, tempted to finish him, but I was trying to save to N!Corrin.

  • @douseXD
    @douseXD 2 года назад +31

    Byleth, Eitri, Corrin and Dagr in the same banner is my Dream ❤️, i have 3106 orbs for this 🙌🏻 (+ what i can get until the banner)

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +7

      Let's hope they'll not go up against each other in round 1 😱

    • @douseXD
      @douseXD 2 года назад

      @@Eldervi That's what i fear, but if the matchups are like last year and the positions are still the same. Matchups will be Edelgard vs Dagr, Corrin vs Elimine, Sigurd vs Byleth (hard fight), Eitri vs Azura. Last year the banner was exactly what i want so im finger cross for this one, Byleth and Eitri my priority 🙌🏻

    • @oytterdeder
      @oytterdeder 2 года назад

      I have 3800 orbs and I'm waiting for my +10 fedelgard and Lsigurd. :c

    • @douseXD
      @douseXD 2 года назад +1

      @@oytterdeder well as you see in the video you should wait for Edelgard on a 3 characters banner ✌🏻

    • @oytterdeder
      @oytterdeder 2 года назад

      @@douseXD Yeah and I can get 1 free ^^

  • @PKLemon1
    @PKLemon1 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for another amazing video about summoning. These are super informative and convey the conclusions of a lot of math very well. I hope more people can see this regardless of what unit they want to win AHR so they can make better decisions with their orbs.

  • @random__idiot
    @random__idiot 2 года назад +5

    I think the value of legendary banners is being underestimated. Sure, to +10 a hero it costs the most orbs, but you do get 3 heroes to +10 (or close to, unless you get very unlucky). You do need to wait a while and save for the right banner, but given that it takes so long to save the orbs, it's not so hard to wait for a good banner (for example, eitri+thorr+dagr that we had before Christmas).
    Assuming we get e.g. 3 green legendaries on AHR, you'll save 15% on your orbs as in the video to get those 3 (and ofc they will be the better legendary/mythic units).
    On the other hand, what if you got 3 green duo units? The cost to get 1 of them to +10 is the same...but now you get ~3 times more value. Compared to picking up 3 duo units on individual banners, your orbs cost is reduced by ~67%, and they're useful in more game modes (especially summoner duels).
    That said, I'm good as long as you're voting green, though I do have a soft spot for DuoDagr

  • @MidoCounters
    @MidoCounters 2 года назад +7

    That potential green colorsharing does sound pretty nice, might consider sparking if it happens.

  • @feyss-9040
    @feyss-9040 2 года назад +1

    The video we needed, thanks!

  • @NightsChiII
    @NightsChiII 2 года назад +1

    The sheer ridiculous reality just became true. I don't believe my eyes, but I love it.

  • @JosephHk743
    @JosephHk743 2 года назад +5

    This is a long comment. I have a lot to say after watching the whole video.
    Looking at these interim results, we’ve definitely gotten plenty of Green units that are impactful by character/or potential like Ninja Corrin, Enlightened Male Byleth, and Duo Dagr. The others are pretty obvious why they are in the top 8. Elimine counters anima season super hard, Legendary Sigurd’s movement shenanigans are extremely scary, and Hegemon (Fallen) Edelgard is….Hegemon Edelgard.
    I’m hoping at least Eitri reaches top 4 (since I’ve voted all on her right now), but additional greens like Ninja Corrin or even Duo Dagr would make the 5 star rates be even better despite the risks of not getting who you want specifically. I even wouldn’t mind Legendary Sigurd joining the party even if he’s the only red in the top rankings (that astounds me still, but I don’t mind because I really like Sigurd).
    18:26 It’ll be like the Arena scoring impact of Legendary Hector all over again.
    Throughout this video, I was laughing at how hilariously bad Fallen Edelgard would actually be on the banner being the only colorless on her rates. She would hurt herself despite being this popular, how ironic.
    I don’t care whether Fallen Edelgard is on the banner or not, but I would be more accepting of Fallen Edelgard if Elimine (or even Claude) shares with her.
    No matter what happens, seeing as how great both of my accounts got after summoning on the AHR banner last year, I’m going to summon on AHR 2022 regardless because these banners are the best opportunities to get these units without much hassle.
    These summoning explanations and game data analysis are some of my favorite videos to just chill, listen, and learn too. Thanks Edlervi!

  • @kiratw6578
    @kiratw6578 2 года назад +7

    On Eitri and Thorr's debut mythic banner I spent 700 orbs and I didn't get a single copy of Thorr nor Dagr who I had been aiming before (only got 3 Eitris as well and other 5* for when green didn't show up). If we add the other mythic banners I tried Dagr it was a total of 1400 orbs and not a single copy of Dagr. Idc what anyone says now, I'll still keep voting for Thorr. Eitri even showed up now, Thorr's return takes too long and Elimine is just not essential at all. Ofc, can't expect anything both from lady luck and other people reasons.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +3

      yeah, the worst part is that thorr's next rerun is really not tempting. Byleth is... fine... and Hel is worthless at this point

    • @Greideren
      @Greideren 2 года назад +1

      Elimine isn't even all that valuable since most defenses will change to counter her either way, so Catria balls and the like will start to disappear which means that even those without Elimine will start to have an easier time.

    • @random__idiot
      @random__idiot 2 года назад +1

      Ouch, if it helps you can have some of my copies of Dagr...I pulled 19 copies on Thorr's banner with ~2300 orbs (but didn't finish eitri)

  • @Forakus
    @Forakus 2 года назад

    Fantastic video.. really interesting

  • @maikayee246
    @maikayee246 2 года назад +1

    I’m glad some people aren’t pessimistic
    Like the redditors and most tubers.

  • @giratinalight
    @giratinalight 2 года назад +4

    Thanks this video is really helpful!
    Let's all do our best to take down fedlegard! Really hoping ninjorrin and hatari azura makes it in the ahr banner! Personally my ideal ahr banner would be ninjorrin hatari azura legendary sigurd elimine or ninjorrin hatar azura thorr and elimine or sigurd!

  • @copocopocopocopo
    @copocopocopocopo 2 года назад

    I'm here after the VG has ended. All-green banner, baby! Yeah! And Hatari Azura and Thórr are both on it!

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 2 года назад

    1:22 I like your layout of the video.

  • @andrewnguyen664
    @andrewnguyen664 2 года назад +10

    People are sleeping on how good Thorr is, im surprised she isnt in the top 5. I really hope that changes since there is literally no downside to having her on the banner whatsoever given how popular the other units are also green.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +8

      The problem is elimine. If it weren't for her I'm sure Thorr would be top 3, but now AR players are splitting votes between her and the instant win button

  • @user-vp3gr6hn7x
    @user-vp3gr6hn7x 2 года назад +3

    The resume is
    Stop voting for Edelgard in this event!!!

  • @naoshihanazawa9408
    @naoshihanazawa9408 2 года назад

    Thank you for breakdown, I was voting for ny!dagr because she is the only I don't have from top 12 (f2p) but I will be a nice person and help get thorr and also help to kick f!edel from voting guantlet.

  • @StormsEyeScepter
    @StormsEyeScepter 2 года назад

    Having a banner with lots of greens as focuses: :D
    Thinking about how difficult it is in general to get green orbs on the summoning screen: D:
    Jokes aside, with how volatile actual Voting Gauntlets are I don't have a lot of hope for full green banner but I'm cautiously hoping for something decent at the end of it all (assuming I even have orbs left to spare given how much the current Hero Fest is coming after my life)

  • @blaster36000
    @blaster36000 2 года назад

    I'm trying to go for Ninjorrin or Hatari Azura (as L!M!Byle, Ewtri, Thorr and Duo Dagr are alrdy in my barracks) Ninjorrin is a great PP option, while Hatari Azura has undeniable potential in being the best refresher in the game.

  • @copocopocopocopo
    @copocopocopocopo 2 года назад

    What really surprised me: last year, the 2nd seed (Ninja Lyn) won the entire thing. This year, the 2nd seed (Fallen Edelgard) was eliminated first round. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm super happy she lost when she can still be summoned on the A Hero Rises banner without being a focus. And, both Thórr and Hatari Azura gave Ninja Corrin a run for her money, more so Thórr, who lost by a super slim margin, while Hatari Azura, who though while leading going into the final hour, lost by over 4 billion.

  • @ufsman
    @ufsman 2 года назад +1

    Also the fact that fallen e is going to win just puts the finger up to the whales who have already plus 10 or have multiple plus ten of those. Personally I would like accssend Fjorm cause of armour save and hardly fighter skill which I need the most.

  • @gaoussoukoita8492
    @gaoussoukoita8492 2 года назад +21

    Me at the people who are voting for Fedelgard: 🤡

    • @Y0kAiS
      @Y0kAiS 2 года назад +4

      Exactly bro lol

  • @TheBoodercg
    @TheBoodercg 2 года назад

    Kinda hope a legendary wins. Byleth/Thorr/Sigurd are all fabulous options in terms of fodder and their massive potential in AR and arena.

  • @KoopaKoot
    @KoopaKoot 2 года назад

    Time for me to get at least a +3 Fallen Edelgard.....or something.
    An all green banner would be nice but I doubt the player base will coalesce in such a way.

  • @sanchinoplays4529
    @sanchinoplays4529 2 года назад +4

    I am praying that people don't try to get FEdel to win this cuz that'd be the worst timeline. There. I said it.

  • @poalafrire7382
    @poalafrire7382 2 года назад +2

    Are we sure the 8th unit will compete with the first one during the tournament ? I'm voting NY Dagr, this unit seems so usefull and future proof...

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +2

      It has been like this last year and I think they'll keep it as it makes the most sense

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 2 года назад

    5:55 Noice.

  • @mysticpumpkin8520
    @mysticpumpkin8520 2 года назад +1

    Tbh I am still scared abut this idea, since fir example there is the posibility of no green orbs appearing at all, and all the other colors being useless seems really strange, but this video makes the idea less scary and a waste of my time, even appealing, but i guess we will never know until it happens

  • @TheBoodercg
    @TheBoodercg 2 года назад

    I love the F!Edelgard prerogative that we have currently. Its almost like we run the government of feh. I also love how there is absolutely ZERO discontent for Claude’s inclusion on the banner. In fact I wouldn’t be upset whatsoever if he won the gauntlet. His fodder and B skill are still the stuff of legend(ary). Anywho I was fortunate to summon a few Karla’s so if we get a copy of him I will fodder odd temptest to him.

  • @iloverobinfromarknights
    @iloverobinfromarknights 2 года назад +2

    I voted on Orochi for the cool wallpaper.

  • @colin2316
    @colin2316 2 года назад +2

    I saved up a bunch of orbs for this banner but with how the top 4 is looking It’s def gonna be a skip I already have all the units in the top 5 and I I don’t have enough orbs to go for any crazy high merges and they all work pretty well without merges

  • @makore39
    @makore39 2 года назад

    As weird as it might sound, I'm not sure how beneficial such a good banner be for most players, specially F2Players that haven't spent their entire year hoarding orbs just for this (Realistically it's not a good idea at all given that you need to summon for legendaries every now and then to keep up with the score and that whatever we get in this banner is entirely dependant on what we get across the year).
    Something like a banner that has NY!Dagr and 3 other greens might seem very good on the surface, but I can't stop thinking on how it would affect scoring. Whales can easly go to get her multiple times to +10 rising the score you need compared to now enough for a good amount of players to no be able to stay in T21.
    Elimine is my other big concern currently using her is pretty much a free win unless the super whaled defense team with insane nukes has a chance at breaking the save ball, wich most of the time results into a team easier to Galeforce anyways. The problem with the free win is very simple, if your defense team doesn't win and your mythic merges aren't great, you are demoting like it or not, the ones that have a chance at winning are whales that face people that honestly got carried by their team and don't really know what they are doing. Right now AR-O is very easy, and I think that everyone sees that so making it easier, driving the score to essentially mythic merges, it's not something beneficial, at least that's how I see it.
    If we get Legendary or Harmonized heroes, I'm fine with it since it won't affect the game too much, and if we get regular pool units then the game won't change at all. Getting super high scoring units or something like Elimine does hurt anyone that hasn't saved +1k orbs just for this.
    If you ask be who I think the winner should be, honestly I don't care at all, but I do see how 1 copy or 2 of B!Catria or H!Azura, while not making any huge impact, it would be beneficial for eveyone, Catria because she is kinda the only unit that can make F2P friendly AR-D comps succed (until Elimine, that is) even if they are weak to Hit and run/Galeforce, and Azura is just a good dancer that's valuable for almost anyone and has a strong place in both AR-O (specially Galeforce comps) and AR-D.
    Good luck to everyone on their summons and please remember this is just a mobile game, if F!Edel wins it's not the end of the world.

  • @infantrypulse
    @infantrypulse 2 года назад

    The syphilis content. 👁 👄 👁

  • @stev4v
    @stev4v 2 года назад

    Deine Rechnung ist echt gut aber am billigsten ist es immer ein Spark plus gratis. Deswegen finde ich Edelgard besser und günstig. Legendär und doppel Units sind immer noch richtig teuer als +10 auch mit 1600 Orbs. Turnier ist schon vorbei aber es bringt gar nichts mit eine copie von die legendären wenn Arena brauchst du bestimmt +10. Allerdings sin die neue Units richtig Krass seit Chrom und ich finde alle dieser kann nichts dagegen.

  • @SirPreyas
    @SirPreyas 2 года назад

    An all Green banner would be awsome.

  • @devotedhoshiyomi
    @devotedhoshiyomi 2 года назад +1

    I do not want to sound mean to people who vote for F!Edelgard, but holy shit she had a banner with spark 2 times! And it's the fallen heroes banner, which has good fodder and is worth to summon on even with full circles! Why have her in AHR too?

  • @iwantmoney3598
    @iwantmoney3598 2 года назад +10

    My tiny brain is grateful for this explanation. Is been like 3 years and Edelgard still can't have good fodder, to me is the worst part. So yeah, for a certain unit sucks, I wanted Dimi last year and I ended up getting 6 Seiros and only one Dimitri just because of the spark.

    • @rods0376
      @rods0376 2 года назад +9

      Better to get 6 seiros than 6 random blue units from the common pool.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, I mean, that sadly happens, though I suppose you still didn't spend a crazy amount of orbs?

    • @iwantmoney3598
      @iwantmoney3598 2 года назад +3

      @@rods0376 well I also got two Fioras and two other blue units I don't remember. I was suffering for success.

    • @iwantmoney3598
      @iwantmoney3598 2 года назад +3

      @@Eldervi I actually wasted not that many orbs? I saved like 500 orbs. I got lucky, is just was salt on the wound because It happened the same thing on Seiros banner 😂 now I have a +10 Seiros. Suffering from success.

  • @sleepingforest3979
    @sleepingforest3979 2 года назад +1

    Bruh brave eirika is my fucking goat I love her brave alt🤘

  • @forblaze5757
    @forblaze5757 2 года назад

    I hope fehdelgard drops a few places because I think that people won’t benefit with a fallen edelgard then they will with others like Thor or legendary Claude

  • @HXMbamwam
    @HXMbamwam 2 года назад

    Can you link the interim results?

  • @kiroib3856
    @kiroib3856 2 года назад +3

    4 Greens is Fun and all, until u end up getting no Green Orbs 💀

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад

      Haha, also true 😂

  • @apairofsteeltoedboots4729
    @apairofsteeltoedboots4729 2 года назад +2

    I want either legendary sigurd or legendary byleth

  • @rhythmribbon6282
    @rhythmribbon6282 2 года назад +1

    Sigurd has my backing. Sorry guys who want 4 green, Hes one of 2 characters in the top 20 I actually want and I dont want a chrom incendent like last year

  • @luis70450
    @luis70450 2 года назад

    even if my votes don't make much difference, i still get decent wallpapers for my phone

  • @human-user
    @human-user 2 года назад

    Based maths

  • @turtle-bot3049
    @turtle-bot3049 2 года назад +2

    The only caveat I would give to the entire banner being green is, rip those people who are unfortunate enough to not get any green orbs on their summoning circles (which we all know will happen to many of us along the way). In saying that, it seems like the colour distribution has been much better, even for smaller summoning sessions recently, but that point is still the biggest unknown for us when summoning.
    GL to everyone going in on the AHR banner, as for me, I doubt I will go for it. I have all the possible units already, including far too many eitri who refused to leave me alone in both L/M banners she has been on so far (I got 8 of her going for +10 thorr and another 7 of her from elemines banner trying to finish my Fjorm). I may throw a few orbs at Harari Azura if she makes the banner, but will likely just go for the Valentine's banner then save for potential bride palla or summer units/brave tiki or the possibility of scarlet being brought into feh this year (she is the second highest voted character from fates that's not in feh yet and was just outside the top 100 at 103 so is looking super likely if we get a fates new heroes banner).

  • @Seddyhere
    @Seddyhere 2 года назад

    Hoping Claude can get top 8 and get on the banner cause I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed a merge on him

  • @paulrubens776
    @paulrubens776 2 года назад

    I was happy with elimine on seventh place but if she faces corrin turn one rip

  • @EvaTheCartoonFan2003
    @EvaTheCartoonFan2003 2 года назад

    I don’t mind the winners being greens but I’m preying Fallen Edelgard doesn’t win AHR. I’m supporting Duo Corrin for sure. And I agree what you’re saying. I find it stupid on why people are voting for Fallen Edelgard when she’s available in the regular summoning pool. So with the points u have, this is why people should not vote Fallen Edelgard.

  • @leonardochacin8129
    @leonardochacin8129 2 года назад

    But I don't get why are normal pool units getting less chance than focus banners? Whats the reason for that, and why are different type of units getting different chances on the same banner, don't they share the same rate? I dont get ti

    • @wisteriandraws367
      @wisteriandraws367 2 года назад

      He's specifically comparing F!Edel's AHR rates to a 3-person focus banner, which only normal pool units are eligible for. (For ex., F!Edel was recently featured on a 3-person Bonfire banner.) You are right that the AHR banner with no color-sharing has exactly equivalent odds to a typical 4-person New Heroes banner. However, 3-person banners are *significantly* better for collecting merges of a single unit. (Roughly, 3% focus/3 units = 1% chance per unit. 3%focus/4 units = 0.75% chance per unit).
      For legendaries and seasonals, those numbers are comparing their rates to their own typical banners. You're right that the expected orbs taken to summon Ninjorrin or Thorr is both 111 orbs on the AHR banner, but 111 orbs offers different value relative to their own banners.

    • @leonardochacin8129
      @leonardochacin8129 2 года назад +1

      @@wisteriandraws367 ohhh now I get it. Thanks for the explanation, now I'm planning on trying to +10 all the 4 units now that I saw that it can be done in a 75% with 2500 orbs. I'll use all my f2p story orbs so I'm still deciding. Do you think it's a good idea? I think it's great value since it's thórr for AR and byleth for arena, and then there's Corrin and Azura that I can use in plenty of modes and also happen to be really strong units and two of my favourites. So what do you think? Should I pull or are there better banners?

    • @wisteriandraws367
      @wisteriandraws367 2 года назад

      @@leonardochacin8129 Sounds like you have a pretty fresh account if you have that many story orbs left!
      This is the best banner in the history of FEH for account progression. Go freakin' wild

    • @leonardochacin8129
      @leonardochacin8129 2 года назад

      @@wisteriandraws367 @Wisterian Draws lol something like that, the thing is that I had like a year and a half without playing but before that I never did any chain challenge or the assaults so I count how many orbs can I get and ill have like 1700 in total. And back when I was playing I never had a goal or some plan on what I wanted to do so I never started any legendary/mythic project, I was just summoning like crazy and wasting orbs, but i always saved the story orbs just for moments like this. So now I want to focus on AR mostly and having merge projects and not just playing without any goal. so yeaah it's time to go wild on this banner!

    • @jacklorenz4274
      @jacklorenz4274 2 года назад

      @@leonardochacin8129 wow, it’s also a crazy value too because Azura can use their harmonic skill on Corrin since they’re both fates units, so they can get an extra +4/4 atk/spd and yet another refresh on top of the duo skill and dance.

  • @Tee_Wilson
    @Tee_Wilson 2 года назад

    Mann, I just want Legendary Corrin and Ninja Corrin lol

  • @mizutsunebubbledragon3382
    @mizutsunebubbledragon3382 2 года назад

    An all green banner is a fever dream but unfortunately...thanks to Fedel fans(no offense to them personally), it becomes a nonexistent dream lol. VG are so inconsistent that anything can happen. But here's hoping a possible all green banner does happen.

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 2 года назад

    8:20 Elimine Noice.

  • @ufsman
    @ufsman 2 года назад

    What they will probably do is put the nearest red as the red or blue we not going to have a four green or three green banner cause that would break the game by having an all green banner.

  • @OfLaSoul
    @OfLaSoul 2 года назад +4

    NAWWW, I'm going Legendary Siggy allll day!

  • @aqualacerta3961
    @aqualacerta3961 2 года назад +2

    Edelgard was to be expected, i'll be happy to have another merge, i'll be trying for sigurd tho as i don't have him

  • @aaronwolf6823
    @aaronwolf6823 2 года назад +3

    I honestly just used my votes for wallpapers. I will likely just care more for when the gauntlet starts. Though I am likely to just vote for who ever is against F!Edelgard cause we all know she isn't leaving top 8.

  • @Samsonsamurai
    @Samsonsamurai 2 года назад +2

    I don’t want edel to win, ever

  • @ShounLander
    @ShounLander 2 года назад

    You know, it would be funny if F! Edel wins, just so I can get a free win with my Thorr on Aether Raid, people should see who's on top of the good chain lol

  • @tymemaster
    @tymemaster 2 года назад +1

    Isn't it only a value to you if you want them

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад

      True, I said the exact thing in my conclusion ☺️

  • @Mijzelffan
    @Mijzelffan 2 года назад

    god I can't wait until this event is over and we're finally rid of this green meme spam, I didn't think the fandom could be more insufferable than during CYL but you madlads actually did it.

  • @Ferniiiii
    @Ferniiiii 2 года назад +1

    Would I finally whip out my credit card and whale for +10s? Unlikely.... otr took my stash already.

  • @alexanderharrison7421
    @alexanderharrison7421 2 года назад +1

    I kinda wanna see her get into the voting gauntlet and lose Round 1

  • @M0D776
    @M0D776 2 года назад +3

    I don't care who gets into the banner as long as the banner is full green or 3/4 green, so I'll keep voting Hatari Azura and Eitri.

  • @oneshotorgan
    @oneshotorgan 2 года назад

    Please don’t let FEdelgard get on the top four banner! She’s in the normal summoning pool! She was sparkable twice!

  • @nayaelr4776
    @nayaelr4776 2 года назад

    Fallen Edel... People are voting in a weird way. I have her at plus one. I hate using her (unpopular opinion). Standing at 1,3k HM.

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 2 года назад +3

      I also dislike using her, so I only use her when I just want to clear out something without bothering, but that almost never happens so she only is used on the last day of Tempest Trials+ events most of the time

    • @bloodshadow6965
      @bloodshadow6965 2 года назад

      I like to use her before... but long ago i healed my neurons with the act of stop using her, and made the game more entertainin

    • @bloodshadow6965
      @bloodshadow6965 2 года назад

      @@M0D776 in my case, i stopped using her in EVERY mode, dont use her in tt, nor chain challenges, nor battles, nor AR (even in defence).

    • @Greideren
      @Greideren 2 года назад +1

      She's either boring to use or not an automatic win like many believe. She has too many counters at this point.
      The only place where I can see her truly shine is in Beast Galeforce teams since she has 3 actions instead of 2.

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 2 года назад

      @@bloodshadow6965 I don't even use her that much in TT+, as I normally also finish the event as soon as I can, so even then F!Edel doesn't have much use to me.

  • @padmewan
    @padmewan 2 года назад +2

    Counterpoint: F.Edelgard has proven to be a very smart investment to +10 if you played the long game. Two possible sparks, the skill focus, and now the possibility of a third spark and maybe even a freebie. Turns out betting on the popular unit is rational if your goal is to +10.
    I didn't make that bet, but I don't begrudge the people who did and are lowering the total cost of their merge project through their votes.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +1

      I guess this is a scenario of own good versus greater good, and I guess as a content creator it's easier for me to strive for the latter as a good gaming experience overall results in more engagement for me later 😅

  • @iforgetiamacat8348
    @iforgetiamacat8348 2 года назад

    I respect the work you've done, but... these average numbers don't represent reality for one person. The community is not one organism with common barracks, and these +0.5% or even 1% increase in the rate is good for a huge distance of at least hundreds, and preferably thousands of summoning sessions and this is easy for the community as a whole, but almost imposible for one specific player (because everyone cares about personal gain and not replenishment other people's barracks) so I think that a spark is ALWAYS better than even a couple of % of the rate for an individual. Unless you have money for a million orbs to feel these few % of the rate at a distance.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +1

      I can see that point. In any case, this is true for all 3 unit types, so pool units are still the worst in this regard, but as I said at the end, all of that doesn't matter if you don't like the unit behind it. I guess this is a scenario of own good versus greater good, and I guess as a content creator it's easier for me to strive for the latter as a good gaming experience overall results in more engagement for me later 😅

  • @rods0376
    @rods0376 2 года назад +1

    Eldervi, stop voting Thorr, new Lucina just made her Irrelevant, can't follow up and over 50% damage reduction, you'll try and use galeforce thorr, you'll hit her once for 20 damage and that's it, Lmao.

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +1

      Well, every unit has had it's counters, and it's not like Thorr didn't have counters before. She can't kill svallin shield Edelgards or Gustav's for example, the first even killing her on retaliation. But a) not everyone runs them and not everyone will run lucina, b) you still have 5 teams and she can likely be easily snatched by bravetome mages of they rip through the safe tank, which they will, and c) bolt tower 😎

  • @tariqmansour9891
    @tariqmansour9891 2 года назад +2

    F!Edelgard is the most boring unit to deal with , like it is not a good idea in AHR for f2p or p2w, she is avalabile in the regular summonig pool , I do not mind if any unit wins other than her

  • @bryandragon75
    @bryandragon75 2 года назад

    Doesn't all green just make it more expensive to summon tho

    • @wisteriandraws367
      @wisteriandraws367 2 года назад

      Not... sure if troll comment.
      Jump to the last graphic at the end. Significantly more expensive to +10 a normal pool, minimally more expensive to +10 a seasonal, much cheaper to +10 a legendary/mythic.

    • @bryandragon75
      @bryandragon75 2 года назад +1

      @@wisteriandraws367 it wasnt I just made it before I watched it since I was busy at the time. However it's still more expensive to spark since it's not 155 orbs anymore which is what I was trying to ask itll tough as a F2P to get enough to go beyond a possible +3 from 0 😅

    • @bryandragon75
      @bryandragon75 2 года назад +1

      @@wisteriandraws367 but thanks you summed it up really nicely! It's just with my luck I'll probably get more than 1 circle with 0 greens 😂

    • @wisteriandraws367
      @wisteriandraws367 2 года назад +1

      ​@@bryandragon75 Hey glad it was helpful, sorry for the snark haha.
      I'm with you, it's a great banner, but having a random Corrin that will bum at +3 for the rest of her life doesn't add much value to one's account.

    • @bryandragon75
      @bryandragon75 2 года назад

      @@wisteriandraws367 no worries! I didn't even read it with disrespect lol plus this'll be useful for everyone who reads it plus next year when I forget 😭
      And yeah I've got so many legendaries that are at +1 and it's like feh Just doesn't want me to plus 5 anything 😂😂

  • @ArielaAriel
    @ArielaAriel 2 года назад +4

    Me, still voting for Claude: 🤡

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад +5

      Sure, give the Edelgard fans reasoning 🤣

    • @Seddyhere
      @Seddyhere 2 года назад +1

      Now which Claude?
      Better be Legendary

  • @HXMbamwam
    @HXMbamwam 2 года назад +1

    You guys realize 4 Greens will make arena/AR/RB/Summoner Duel unplayable? and I'm saying this as a paying player. Literally F2P will be in shambles unless they've been hoarding. Score floor raises even more, meta units everywhere, pretty insane.

  • @skelty12
    @skelty12 2 года назад +1

    "I don't want to tell you how to vote" then proceeds to spend twenty minutes telling people how to vote in a popularity contest...

    • @Eldervi
      @Eldervi  2 года назад

      No, I said I don't want to tell you on WHO to vote. I will totally tell you HOW to vote to get the most value outcome

  • @giratinalight
    @giratinalight 2 года назад

    Thanks this video is really helpful!
    Let's all do our best to take down fedlegard! Really hoping ninjorrin and hatari azura makes it in the ahr banner! Personally my ideal ahr banner would be ninjorrin hatari azura legendary sigurd elimine or ninjorrin hatar azura thorr and elimine or sigurd!