My 500c/m doesn’t have ibis either and guess what, zero problems hand holding it. It’s been all over the world with me and I never once thought I needed anything else.
I just bought the 907x100c one week ago. I did have the 50c for a weekend two years ago and whilst I loved its design, it felt like a prototype. Very slow, autofocus unusable, battery short lasting. a dog of a camera and it dit not convince me. big problem was the aperture and shutter speed using the same button as John points out. I got one of the first 907x100c from Hasselblad with a 38mm 2.5 and can say that for me the usability issues has all been solved. Aperture is now on the lens, battery is lasting long and autofocus is quick enough. The results and natural colours are truly amazing. When in Paris last weekend I had a look at X2D since it has the IBIS but I much prefer this old school design.
Congrats my friend! I love my 907 50 and as you can see I got 3 of them and they all drive me crazy! But once in my hand I'm in love ! Thank god I have a Z8 next to me haha.
Thats the difference I don't make a dime on these videos and I own all my gear and use as that's what I do as a professional photographer. Commercial and otherwise, each client has a different need and want.
@@Photojouralist123 exactly! That’s why I shoot gfx for my landscape and Leica for my passion and pleasure Hassleblad sadly is missing wide zoom and telephoto zoom to consider for landscapes for me
All i care for is the digital back - because it extends the versatility of my 500C - I love film and I will never move away from it BUT i worry about the sustainability of film manufacture. So the digital back gives my old hasselblad continued life. I don’t need IBIS because I shoot portraits and landscapes - and street photography with a hasselblad is always cumbersome so I use my Leica for it (film) and I don’t see myself moving into an M9.
Thanks John for an honest opinion from someone who uses the products, like you said as do when discussing much less expensive Nikons, Canon's or Sonys, really think twice before running out and buying the next new toy, many creators on you tube are not impartial with their reviews, they benefit with associations with certain brands or they can never find fault with anything which is unrealistic. For some, camera purchases become like buying a Rolex watch, the old $20.00 Timex still tells me the time well enough but is not a fashion statement. One needs to look at their use case and their budgetary constraints to find the best camera for what they do, no sense blowing your budget on a body and not having money for decent glass or only being able to afford one lens. There is no doubt the quality of a Leica or Hasselblad ( In most cases) and if you can afford it why not, but a perfect camera is the one that fits your needs and that's why we have so many choices. Take care and great job - Jeff
I'd like to clarify something. Have you had the chance to try out CFV100C? It would be beneficial to offer your opinion based on actual experience. You mentioned that the battery life is not very good, but perhaps it would be valuable to test it and see what it's actually like...
I like the look and the large rear screen of the X2D, plus the fact that it has IBIS inside. Going medium format, especially 100MP will generate some large files. I tested the GFX 100 II and each file was 208 MB, one needs to know what they are getting into with one of these and be prepared to have the right computer hardware and drive space to work with the files. Lovely cameras but, I agree not for everyone.
Every camera model has its problems and limitations but ultimately it is ease of use in the studio or in the field and quality of the photographs that count. Secondly, can you recover the cost of the camera and accessories.
Totally unaffordable! I'd rather use film, Medium Format. real Medium format 6x6 or 6x7! But I love small cameras! Digital. Unless one NEEDS those massive MP, get real. Bravo! Love the truly honest appraisal. Again Bravo!
John I just did a comparison with the Hasselblad X2D the Fuji GFX 100ii and the Leica Q3 all at ISO 100 indoors 2 lamp lights on at F2 each of them at 1/15 sec to test each of their Image stabilization and all three cameras handheld zoomed into 200% look pin sharp to me. I continued to lower the shutter speed to 4 and still all were pin sharp. We've come a long way John since Mr Woo shot with Nikon ! The new Hassy is cool but not for me John.
If you already have a 500 series camera and lenses, the 907X is a very versatile digital back that can add something to your existing set up without the need to buy many, if any, new lenses. If you want to use a technical camera with a digital back, this is also a great and cost effective solution. If you want to shoot street, the X2D would be a much better solution anyway, but assuming that you are starting from scratch, an X2D with all of the lenses that you discussed in your video is going to cost you more than the 907X and lenses. The 907 is probably far better suited to being used on a tripod, either indoors or outdoors than being handheld, so as ever, you buy the camera that suits your intended usage. As for the lenses being heavy and not available, I don't think that is a fair comment. It's irrelevant if you're studio based and if you shoot landscapes or other outdoor genres, a good, well fitted backpack makes a massive difference. I'm over 60 and regularly carry my X1D with 5 lenses, which, like most photographers, I've built up over a number of years. Certainly here in the UK, the lenses have been freely available, with the exception of the 90mm. I grant you that this camera is for a reasonably specialised market and for most users, the X2D would be the better choice, but for those whose usage is suited to it, I think it's a great addition and Hasselblad are to be applauded for offering something different.
If you already have a 500 series camera and lenses, it's probably because you want to enjoy analog photography ;) I use several different small, medium and large format systems (both analog and digital) from Canon, Sony, Hasselblad, Mamiya, Yashica and I think that the presented 100 MPx digital back Hasselblad is a big disappointment, especially at such a high price.
I appreciate your honesty in your review. I came to the conclusion that the best bang for the buck for me as a working photographer was the fujifilm gfx system{i know not as good build quality}, specially considering how fast image sensors get outdated nowadays. But like you and everyone says the 907c platform is soooooo gorgeous looking. If i end up with the extra buying power I may grab one as a for me toy kind of purchase.
The only usecase I could justify for the 907 is if I wanted to use it with a 500 series body and lenses. Otherwise the X2D can be mounted on a tripod and do anything the 907 does in sudio, then taken in the field hand held.
You said out loud what so many think. When I first saw the 907x100c I wanted to buy it. But after a few looks around the internet I decided it was too odd. I have several lenses I used with my H2/P45+ but I'm a commercial photographer and now shoot the Fujifilm GFX 100s (a studio I shoot at provides all the equipment and this is their camera of choice) so thinking the Fujifilm GFX 100s ii. And what lots of these "reviews" leave out is the poor quality of Hasselblad repair and, like you stated, the availability of product.
In every respect, the X2D is the better camera - except for classic looks. I own one. The 907 is a total forget about value, I just love it, kind of purchase. But that has its place in the scheme of things too. And the 907 with an XCD 55 does make the ultimate travel camera - and there's a place for that too.
I simply can't afford one, but even if I could, I think I'd stick with my 501CM. I've had it now for 13 years, and know it inside and out. It is nice to see an objective perspective on this new blad though - all I've seen for weeks is the lucky few who were anointed with one for their influencer status!
30 years ago I saved, worked extra shifts to buy a 500C/M Classic outfit. The price was $2,300 USD. Six months later, it was stolen from my home. I made the mistake of not replacing it. Now I am 62 and maybe it's my age, that is a very expensive camera. I remember hearing comments of how expensive my Hasselblad was, but in comparison these digital cameras are untouchable.
I appreciate the honest and information review. Thanks for your great insight. I own the Hasselblad 907X before while it is a truly unique camera with phenomenal image quality… the paint on my buttons wore off 2 WEEKS after use. I wish more RUclips reviewers talk about its issues.
Thank you for video. I go with X1D and 45p lens and HC lens adapter. Maybe in future buy X2D and 907X when price drops. Also using H3Dii-39 and results beautiful. Need to buy 31MP back with micro lenses sensor, best Hasselblad sensor by my opinion.
Agreed. The new 907x 100mp is great, but for handheld it will be quite a challenge. That’s why I love the 907x 50mp ii. Still a challenge but doable. Both with X-lenses or on my old 501cm with the Zeiss lenses. Just simply lovely.
Good points. However, let me point to that Ibis is not an issue as long as you use a shutter time which is safe enough. Why should someone shot at 0.5 seconds every time? the 907X 100 improves in several ways the camera without adding any cons
i actually own a 907x 100C and I am extremely happy with it, the grip honestly you nail it spot on, wish they had a better design and thought through it. I shot a 1/20 shutter speed with the 100C and surprisingly pixel peeping I didn't see any shakes, I think whem paired with the new XCD lenses the weight distribution is more even and feels more stable. One con I definitely see with the 907x is definitely not as weather resistant as the X2D and at times I do miss the EVF. But other than that I am extremely happy with the pictures it comes out with
If you are shooting handheld and want to shoot at low ISO, IBIS will save you in many situations. Without it you have to crank the ISO up and will get more noise.
Thank you, for your honest opinion! At the beginning, I had Canon and Nikon DSLR cameras, which where affordable. With the jump to the Fuji GFX and later to Leica System, I realised, that I opened the pandora of pricy camera equipment (and of course with an insurance). I don´t understand the big advertising campaign on youtube, because of the high prices of the Hasselblad equipment you mentioned...
Great Information and reflection. Thank you. 55-60K? my roommate won't let me use it unless it's for her purse. lol (4 purses, she convinced me they have higher resale value )
Agree about X2D being a better option than the 907x. Th X2D is more versatile. I have the X2D which has advantages you cite such as image stabilisation, and EVF which is essential in bright light. With 907x you can only use the LCD for framing/composing as there is no EVF. This becomes a problem in bright light, outdoors, as the image will look underexposed and unclear. You could get round this problem with tripod and barkcloth, but that defeats the point of the 907x. Nonetheless it is a beautiful camera - for sure. But flawed. Many thanks for the review
absolutely on point. I love my analog 500cm and this beauty looks like the best descendant you can get. But its way too expensive imo. thanks for the video
... do I understand you right: you do not have or have tried out the 100c and just speculate? What a funny video:-) ... and if I would buy one then for extending the versatilty of my 500c/ms and the Zeiss lenses. I would of course but such a camera for the same reason I still shoot with my film hasselblads and Zeiss lenses: great IQ, sturdy, great viewfinder, ...
Imo, this is not a good advice about the purchase. Yes, there are some disadvantages e.g. compared to the X2D such as IBIS. But you don't even have the camera in the video and are just speculating on some points. The battery life is completely fine (I tested it myself), it seems like you did not test it yourself and are just speculating that it's gonna be bad. Imo, the grip would not work upside down, because with it being smaller at the top, it could slip out of your hand more easily. Of course the grip is not the most ergonomic, but the whole camera isn't meant to be. And it is completely fine to use (for me at least). What about the usage in combination with a 500/2000 Body as a digital back or a technical camera? What about the fact that you can change the shutter speed very easily via the phenomenal touch screen? What about the fantastic menu and UI? What about the improvements they made from older models to this one? Of course it is not cheap and 8000 bucks is a lot of money and it isn't for everyone. But its a Hasselblad, come on. I get the idea of this video, but I think its lacking a lot of testing and a more neutral point of view.
I completely agree. I have the 907x CFVII50C and NO WAY I will get the 100C.... add up the Hasselblad lousy firmware update policy, it takes ages if they update at all.... endless waiting list to get lenses etc. etc.
I think they’re really aiming this camera really small niche. Either at young film shoots that have had issues with film or nostalgic, older 500 series users.
I won’t waste a penny on digital cameras, but the film ones. I think it’s a ripoff and will depreciate tremendously. I rather go for the original Hasselblad film 🎞️ cameras. They’re marvels in mechanical engineering. Technically, they live forever. 🎉
My all time favourite camera (907X CFV100). I have an Leica M11P also and that is a brilliant camera, but the Hasselblad, it’s turbo charged to another stratosphere. Unmatchable image quality.
@@paulscr I have not owned both together long enough to have a defined use for each camera. I use both for whatever purpose I have at any given time. I guess ultimately I'll develop preferences one way or the other.
I agree for that money ; you can fly out , travel do real photography , and build a Studio if you have a place to put it. The system is beautiful , but I cannot see mortgaging your home to get a system. Yes: Lenses are Beasts too.
There are a number of problems with your analysis. Firstly, the claim that the battery life of the 100c is likely to be worse than the 50c seems to be conjecture. Secondly, you refer to the 100c as a 'camera' when it is a digital back. It is a camera when combined with the 907x (though you still need a lens). Thirdly, you have overexaggerated the cost of the outfit you advocate. The camera, plus the lenses comes to less than 30000USD allowing for sales tax, so about half of the 55000USD you say. In missing that the 100c is not a camera, but a digital back, you gloss over the most compelling reason for buying it and that is that it can easily be adapted to a large format type rig such as the Linhof Techno, together with its lenses which a photographer may already have. Add in the excellent live view capability of the back and you may have a relatively inexpensive upgrade for older CCD type backs and will probably not need a sliding back adapter with groundglass. Have you seen how much a Phase One IQ4 back costs? Also, you hardly mention that the 100c can be used directly with older Hasselblad V system cameras. All of the 500 system, the 200 system and the 2000 system. Finally, it would make sense to point out that the 100c can be used in addition to the X2D. If you are out on location and you don't want to carry a load of lenses with a large format rig, a small lens like the 28 and/or the 45 can be carried and you just need the 907x if you want to do some quick shots on the tripod. The X2d can use the same lenses and gives you a more handholdable solution. Add in that all of the lenses have leaf shutters for flash synchro and there is an electronic shutter option and you have the basis for a really versatile system. It is not just a beauty contest......
I look at modern photos, as much as I can. Very few worthwhile! If you are not wealthy, you can do better, with film. What are you paying for? How big a print? iPhone can make huge prints! Buyer beware. This applies to all new cameras, mirrorless etc.
John, while your content subject is great;...you really should be doing a lot more first-person, hands-on, personal, very deep-dive research on the materials you generously present to us. Also, you are dispensing some very good; &, very valuable advice here; but,... advice is >less valuable, ->when: you don't fully finish your sentences; &, >if you don't actually have a experience using a product; nor, did you make an: "In-Actual, Field-Tested/Usage"; side-by-side comparison, of a mentioned product; vs. another suggested one.
Modern full frame cameras give results that 99.9% of viewers or clients will be happy with. Spending large 5 digit sums on a body and a few lenses just doesn’t seem worth it. I know there’s a certain “look” to medium format but really, is how public end consumer really going to know? Short answer: no, they aren’t.
The modern FF, compared with APS-C and m4/3, is the equivalent of the film medium format compared with 35mm. My FF DSLR is bigger and heavier than my old 6x7 film camera, and its resolution is not far behind the digital "medium formats" anyway.
Hello, it's wonderful that there is also a critical voice. I completely agree that the handling of the 907x 100 is difficult, especially when shooting handheld. The image stabiliser of the X2D really is a serious advantage. But where I have problems with the approval is the price aspect. If I decide in favour of the X system and really need all the lenses, then the price difference is only the difference between the two bodies. So possibly $2000 Does that make the difference at 55,000? I think not. Isn't this also balanced out by the fact that I can use the Digi back on the 500CM and the "old" optics, which allow longer focal lengths, e.g. 250mm, without being so blatantly top-heavy? In addition, can I adapt the 907 or the Digi back to my Arca Swiss. and thus realise real adjustment for architecture? OK, the adapter plate is also not available for cookies.....
Not wishing to offend anyone but it seems to me that the high end classic film camera makers seem to get it wrong when transferring to digital? I got a Leica M9 when it came out and it was an absolute dog IMO, and Hasselblad appear to be doing the same judging by this video. I quickly got rid of that M9 and moved over to Fujifilm instead, who in my view got everything right. Now I use the GFX 50r which is "only" 51mp and doesn't have IS built in, but the results are stunning and it does everything I want it to. I used to own a Hasselblad 501cm and a Leica M6 so I'm not hating on these camera brands, I'm just saying they seem to lose their way when transferring to digital.
John. There aren't many photographers who understand the very high standards of full optic systems like the Fujifilm, Hasselblad, and Leica S2 medium format systems, so I believe you'd be an excellent candidate to write about film or digital media formats in general, as less than 1% of photographers have the opportunity to see the high level of optics that you have. By the way, thank you again for proving that those who claim the Fujifilm medium format is dirt inexpensive are not delusional.
Hi Albert good to see you. I just got a Fujifilm GFX100/2 yesterday and will be doing a hands on with my GFX100s and Hassy X2d. And yes Mr. Woo and I will be doing discussions on digital vs film medium format so stayed tuned for that. For those who think Fujifilm is dirt and inexpensive boy are they in Lala land. Fujifilm is for commercial work as they have the lens collection for commercial use. Why I say that Fufijilm has 2 new T/S lens which is crucial for us commercial guys. And very neutral colors clients like. Hassy has its own color and does not have T/S lens which is must have.
@@Photojouralist123 Once again, I'm enjoying what you're doing, so you can count on me to check in to see what you and Mr. Woo think of the color science and optics of both systems.
The big Japanese companies doing presentations and their employees on stage have problem to speak English,need to hire this gentleman for presentation who speaks perfect English…
Lol I hope you put insurance on those. I can't imagine walking around Washington DC with one. You may as well shout "everyone.. 55k right here! Check it out. 55k price of a car on my neck! Come and see!".
I'd never think about buying a Hasselblad. It contains the word "hassle" I sold my A7IV, because it was annoying to carry around. I switched to the A6700. Awesome! not annoying, not heavy. Awesome results. The only question: Why only now, in the middle of apocalypse?
📷 I am a Hasselblad shooter. I must say that X2D is the least user-friendly and practically the dummest camera that Hasselblad ever produced. Maybe the second after the X1D. H series cameras are way better in use in every respect, for the fraction of inferior image quality that is absolutely ignorable, unless you are a landscape or a product photographer, maybe. I was already frustrated with the poor focusing capability of the X1D. When X2D was announced I was excited hoping that all the weaknesses would have been fixed. I was thinking buying one. I changed my mind when I saw the camera. It has one drawback and one unforgivable flaw: 1- Even an optional vertical grip would be nice. 2- It doesn't have a thumb stick for focus point selection. What do you do? Do you stick your finger between your nose and camera to find an approximate touch point on the back screen. I have no idea what the design head manager was thinking? Keeping the look minimalistic? Whatever the reason was, it is absolute nonsense. I am not questioning the image quality. But for the usability: that camera is a looser. Seriously, I wouldn't pay even $1000 for that camera body. It can be a nice shelf decoration though 😄
Two things your right it’s a pain in the ass to use for sure I agree ☝️ using your finger to change the focus is crazy. Hence I now have a Fujifilm GFX/2 . My wife is hooked on Hassy and is now the top ten finalist in the Smithsonian photography contest out of 30,000 entries. Works for some .
@@Photojouralist123 Again, as I mentioned before, it depends on what type of photography one does. If one works in a slow pace still image shooting, in which one can take the time to use the touch screen, e.g., landscape etc. not a big deal. But if one deals with dynamic subjects it is arguably the worse camera in the market.
Pro tip: don’t move focus point at all. It’s slow and not precise (especially that most cameras focus the best in the middle of the sensor) plus it limits you to specific focus points (even subconsciously, that’s how our brain works - you would be getting worse composition this way). Instead, first focus using point in the center and then compose. You also don’t normally need to refocus for each shot. Saves a lot of time. And if you’re on tripod then you can easily focus by tapping the screen. PS People used to shoot action photos with manual focus. Everyone just got spoiled with all the AI focus in modern full frame cameras ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Photojouralist123 just proves the point that camera doesn’t matter. I got X2D because I like how it feels and it’s just an inner child in me being happy every time I pick it up to take a photo. I wouldn’t say that my photos taken on X2D are next level compared to my old D750 or even iPhone 😉
My 500c/m doesn’t have ibis either and guess what, zero problems hand holding it. It’s been all over the world with me and I never once thought I needed anything else.
I had a 503 I miss it 😢
If it works for you - use it :)
I just bought the 907x100c one week ago. I did have the 50c for a weekend two years ago and whilst I loved its design, it felt like a prototype. Very slow, autofocus unusable, battery short lasting. a dog of a camera and it dit not convince me. big problem was the aperture and shutter speed using the same button as John points out. I got one of the first 907x100c from Hasselblad with a 38mm 2.5 and can say that for me the usability issues has all been solved. Aperture is now on the lens, battery is lasting long and autofocus is quick enough. The results and natural colours are truly amazing. When in Paris last weekend I had a look at X2D since it has the IBIS but I much prefer this old school design.
Congrats my friend! I love my 907 50 and as you can see I got 3 of them and they all drive me crazy! But once in my hand I'm in love ! Thank god I have a Z8 next to me haha.
Lovely to see an honest and not paid for video on this camera. Every other video is basically a 10min advert
Thats the difference I don't make a dime on these videos and I own all my gear and use as that's what I do as a professional photographer. Commercial and otherwise, each client has a different need and want.
@@Photojouralist123 exactly! That’s why I shoot gfx for my landscape and Leica for my passion and pleasure
Hassleblad sadly is missing wide zoom and telephoto zoom to consider for landscapes for me
I truly appreciate your HONEST opinion. For me it's valuable...thank you.
It’s a huge decision so gotta really think hard.
All i care for is the digital back - because it extends the versatility of my 500C - I love film and I will never move away from it BUT i worry about the sustainability of film manufacture. So the digital back gives my old hasselblad continued life. I don’t need IBIS because I shoot portraits and landscapes - and street photography with a hasselblad is always cumbersome so I use my Leica for it (film) and I don’t see myself moving into an M9.
Thanks John for an honest opinion from someone who uses the products, like you said as do when discussing much less expensive Nikons, Canon's or Sonys, really think twice before running out and buying the next new toy, many creators on you tube are not impartial with their reviews, they benefit with associations with certain brands or they can never find fault with anything which is unrealistic. For some, camera purchases become like buying a Rolex watch, the old $20.00 Timex still tells me the time well enough but is not a fashion statement. One needs to look at their use case and their budgetary constraints to find the best camera for what they do, no sense blowing your budget on a body and not having money for decent glass or only being able to afford one lens. There is no doubt the quality of a Leica or Hasselblad ( In most cases) and if you can afford it why not, but a perfect camera is the one that fits your needs and that's why we have so many choices. Take care and great job - Jeff
Simply put Jeffery, I don't buy bass boats hahah cameras are my poison
I'd like to clarify something. Have you had the chance to try out CFV100C? It would be beneficial to offer your opinion based on actual experience. You mentioned that the battery life is not very good, but perhaps it would be valuable to test it and see what it's actually like...
I went with the X2D as it has better functions. Coupled with the XCD 80 1.9 which I just bought second hand….I’m in a happy place :-) Thanks
Congratulations great choice have fun
congratulation , strong and precise personal opinion . Thank you for exposes your personal opinion . It help me
I like the look and the large rear screen of the X2D, plus the fact that it has IBIS inside. Going medium format, especially 100MP will generate some large files. I tested the GFX 100 II and each file was 208 MB, one needs to know what they are getting into with one of these and be prepared to have the right computer hardware and drive space to work with the files. Lovely cameras but, I agree not for everyone.
Great video, thanks! I had planned to pick one up but went with a mint 503cw 😂 looking forward to more vids!
Oh man good choice I miss my 503 very much
Every camera model has its problems and limitations but ultimately it is ease of use in the studio or in the field and quality of the photographs that count.
Secondly, can you recover the cost of the camera and accessories.
Thanks for your learned advice. Cheers.
Glad it was helpful!
Totally unaffordable! I'd rather use film, Medium Format. real Medium format 6x6 or 6x7! But I love small cameras! Digital. Unless one NEEDS those massive MP, get real. Bravo! Love the truly honest appraisal. Again Bravo!
Yes give me a film 6x6 and my old Mamiya 6x7ll
A very calm and serious review. Thanks a lot 😊
Your most welcome I've been doing this for 30 years and have years of experience in both commercial and as photojournalist for the wires.
@@Photojouralist123😊😊
Very well said! THANK YOU for the advice. "When wisdom speaks..."
Thanks very much much !
John I just did a comparison with the Hasselblad X2D the Fuji GFX 100ii and the Leica Q3 all at ISO 100 indoors 2 lamp lights on at F2 each of them at 1/15 sec to test each of their Image stabilization and all three cameras handheld zoomed into 200% look pin sharp to me. I continued to lower the shutter speed to 4 and still all were pin sharp. We've come a long way John since Mr Woo shot with Nikon ! The new Hassy is cool but not for me John.
Great talking and I get your point, but… if you want to use the digital back on a 500 c/m V camera?
That’s not a problem But ! 503 is 6x6 907x 4x3 and old Zeiss CF lens can not resolve the 100mp
Keep rockin the Channel John. Nice Hassies
Hey Vahagn thanks for the support bro me and Mr Woo having a great time show casing his collection.
Sounds like a great studio camera as an entry level (or more for those who reminisce about older hasselblads)
What about using the 907 on a Hasselblad V system?
Looking forward to more videos, great commentary
If you already have a 500 series camera and lenses, the 907X is a very versatile digital back that can add something to your existing set up without the need to buy many, if any, new lenses. If you want to use a technical camera with a digital back, this is also a great and cost effective solution. If you want to shoot street, the X2D would be a much better solution anyway, but assuming that you are starting from scratch, an X2D with all of the lenses that you discussed in your video is going to cost you more than the 907X and lenses. The 907 is probably far better suited to being used on a tripod, either indoors or outdoors than being handheld, so as ever, you buy the camera that suits your intended usage. As for the lenses being heavy and not available, I don't think that is a fair comment. It's irrelevant if you're studio based and if you shoot landscapes or other outdoor genres, a good, well fitted backpack makes a massive difference. I'm over 60 and regularly carry my X1D with 5 lenses, which, like most photographers, I've built up over a number of years. Certainly here in the UK, the lenses have been freely available, with the exception of the 90mm. I grant you that this camera is for a reasonably specialised market and for most users, the X2D would be the better choice, but for those whose usage is suited to it, I think it's a great addition and Hasselblad are to be applauded for offering something different.
If you already have a 500 series camera and lenses, it's probably because you want to enjoy analog photography ;)
I use several different small, medium and large format systems (both analog and digital) from Canon, Sony, Hasselblad, Mamiya, Yashica and I think that the presented 100 MPx digital back Hasselblad is a big disappointment, especially at such a high price.
Thanks John. Check's in the mail!
I appreciate your honesty in your review. I came to the conclusion that the best bang for the buck for me as a working photographer was the fujifilm gfx system{i know not as good build quality}, specially considering how fast image sensors get outdated nowadays. But like you and everyone says the 907c platform is soooooo gorgeous looking. If i end up with the extra buying power I may grab one as a for me toy kind of purchase.
To put it into perspective...the $8,100.00 body price is the hook...the deal. Then the real cost begins.
$8,200 just the box and like you say the real cost begins
In photography, the money is always in the glass, regardless of the body.
@@jimbruton9482 It's a bit of both these days...the tech is moving so fast compared to the film days.
The only usecase I could justify for the 907 is if I wanted to use it with a 500 series body and lenses. Otherwise the X2D can be mounted on a tripod and do anything the 907 does in sudio, then taken in the field hand held.
You said out loud what so many think. When I first saw the 907x100c I wanted to buy it. But after a few looks around the internet I decided it was too odd. I have several lenses I used with my H2/P45+ but I'm a commercial photographer and now shoot the Fujifilm GFX 100s (a studio I shoot at provides all the equipment and this is their camera of choice) so thinking
the Fujifilm GFX 100s ii. And what lots of these "reviews" leave out is the poor quality of Hasselblad repair and, like you stated, the availability of product.
I’m reviewing the Gfx100-2 now if you want sample images send me your email
I have a
Despite all this, I still like them, though I probably will never own one. I do miss my 503. It was my work horse for over 20 years.
In every respect, the X2D is the better camera - except for classic looks. I own one. The 907 is a total forget about value, I just love it, kind of purchase. But that has its place in the scheme of things too. And the 907 with an XCD 55 does make the ultimate travel camera - and there's a place for that too.
I simply can't afford one, but even if I could, I think I'd stick with my 501CM. I've had it now for 13 years, and know it inside and out. It is nice to see an objective perspective on this new blad though - all I've seen for weeks is the lucky few who were anointed with one for their influencer status!
I'd love a digital V back but i'm not masochistic enough to use it as a working camera instead of a Hassy H or DJI Hassy X2D... 🦘
thank you for the cautionary tale
I own and enjoy the 907x & 50C ii back. For 100 MP I’d definitely go with the X2D for the reasons you suggest. The 907x combo would be the backup.
30 years ago I saved, worked extra shifts to buy a 500C/M Classic outfit. The price was $2,300 USD. Six months later, it was stolen from my home. I made the mistake of not replacing it. Now I am 62 and maybe it's my age, that is a very expensive camera. I remember hearing comments of how expensive my Hasselblad was, but in comparison these digital cameras are untouchable.
Looks that way I had a 503 and regret selling it to buy a condo and the deal fell through I lost the camera
I appreciate the honest and information review. Thanks for your great insight. I own the Hasselblad 907X before while it is a truly unique camera with phenomenal image quality… the paint on my buttons wore off 2 WEEKS after use. I wish more RUclips reviewers talk about its issues.
Ya same with mine the paint wore off! I’m sticking with this camera no resale value
New 100 has other buttons, does not happen on these. New material and they are flatter so the aren't as exposed as before.
Thank you for video. I go with X1D and 45p lens and HC lens adapter. Maybe in future buy X2D and 907X when price drops. Also using H3Dii-39 and results beautiful. Need to buy 31MP back with micro lenses sensor, best Hasselblad sensor by my opinion.
Agreed. The new 907x 100mp is great, but for handheld it will be quite a challenge. That’s why I love the 907x 50mp ii. Still a challenge but doable. Both with X-lenses or on my old 501cm with the Zeiss lenses. Just simply lovely.
Exactly! I used my 907x 50mp today hand held no problem
Good points. However, let me point to that Ibis is not an issue as long as you use a shutter time which is safe enough. Why should someone shot at 0.5 seconds every time? the 907X 100 improves in several ways the camera without adding any cons
i actually own a 907x 100C and I am extremely happy with it, the grip honestly you nail it spot on, wish they had a better design and thought through it.
I shot a 1/20 shutter speed with the 100C and surprisingly pixel peeping I didn't see any shakes, I think whem paired with the new XCD lenses the weight distribution is more even and feels more stable.
One con I definitely see with the 907x is definitely not as weather resistant as the X2D and at times I do miss the EVF. But other than that I am extremely happy with the pictures it comes out with
If you are shooting handheld and want to shoot at low ISO, IBIS will save you in many situations. Without it you have to crank the ISO up and will get more noise.
Form over function on the grip.
@@Photojouralist123 don’t buy it then!!
@@petermendelson5839 get the x2d
People complained about the d850 hand held... This thing ergonomics are terrible!!!
Thank you, for your honest opinion! At the beginning, I had Canon and Nikon DSLR cameras, which where affordable. With the jump to the Fuji GFX and later to Leica System, I realised, that I opened the pandora of pricy camera equipment (and of course with an insurance). I don´t understand the big advertising campaign on youtube, because of the high prices of the Hasselblad equipment you mentioned...
Wait so leica is less expensive than Hasselblad?😂
Great Information and reflection. Thank you. 55-60K? my roommate won't let me use it unless it's for her purse. lol (4 purses, she convinced me they have higher resale value )
That’s right
Agree about X2D being a better option than the 907x. Th X2D is more versatile. I have the X2D which has advantages you cite such as image stabilisation, and EVF which is essential in bright light. With 907x you can only use the LCD for framing/composing as there is no EVF. This becomes a problem in bright light, outdoors, as the image will look underexposed and unclear. You could get round this problem with tripod and barkcloth, but that defeats the point of the 907x. Nonetheless it is a beautiful camera - for sure. But flawed. Many thanks for the review
Yes exactly my point, and the optical view finder is pretty useless. Thats why I have 3 of them hahah good thing I got a X2D
I shoot Hasselblad HC lenses on my Leica S (digital) and my Hasselblad H2F (film).
absolutely on point. I love my analog 500cm and this beauty looks like the best descendant you can get. But its way too expensive imo. thanks for the video
... do I understand you right: you do not have or have tried out the 100c and just speculate? What a funny video:-) ... and if I would buy one then for extending the versatilty of my 500c/ms and the Zeiss lenses. I would of course but such a camera for the same reason I still shoot with my film hasselblads and Zeiss lenses: great IQ, sturdy, great viewfinder, ...
FYI affirmative on the 100c
@@Photojouralist123 thanks for your help and information, but then I obviously got you wrong?
Imo, this is not a good advice about the purchase. Yes, there are some disadvantages e.g. compared to the X2D such as IBIS. But you don't even have the camera in the video and are just speculating on some points. The battery life is completely fine (I tested it myself), it seems like you did not test it yourself and are just speculating that it's gonna be bad. Imo, the grip would not work upside down, because with it being smaller at the top, it could slip out of your hand more easily. Of course the grip is not the most ergonomic, but the whole camera isn't meant to be. And it is completely fine to use (for me at least). What about the usage in combination with a 500/2000 Body as a digital back or a technical camera? What about the fact that you can change the shutter speed very easily via the phenomenal touch screen? What about the fantastic menu and UI? What about the improvements they made from older models to this one? Of course it is not cheap and 8000 bucks is a lot of money and it isn't for everyone. But its a Hasselblad, come on. I get the idea of this video, but I think its lacking a lot of testing and a more neutral point of view.
Of course I used it
There are other reviews that are also negative with regard to the grip design right here on RUclips.
great
I completely agree. I have the 907x CFVII50C and NO WAY I will get the 100C.... add up the Hasselblad lousy firmware update policy, it takes ages if they update at all.... endless waiting list to get lenses etc. etc.
Exactly I’m still waiting for an update
I think they’re really aiming this camera really small niche. Either at young film shoots that have had issues with film or nostalgic, older 500 series users.
Wow, it certainly not a system that is practical for many types of photography (sport, wildlife, etc). Did you take an of those to Mongolia?
Hey John!!
Hey buddy thanks for watching Take any requests
I won’t waste a penny on digital cameras, but the film ones. I think it’s a ripoff and will depreciate tremendously. I rather go for the original Hasselblad film 🎞️ cameras. They’re marvels in mechanical engineering. Technically, they live forever. 🎉
Digital Hassy drops in half as soon as u walk out the door
@@Photojouralist123 Yes. Unfortunately, that also applies to Leica digital Ms! 😢
@@Photojouralist123 What’s your most favorite Japanese made camera (not digital)?
@@silvestersze9968 easy call Nikon
My all time favourite camera (907X CFV100). I have an Leica M11P also and that is a brilliant camera, but the Hasselblad, it’s turbo charged to another stratosphere. Unmatchable image quality.
Have an m11 and considering the 907x to compliment - worth it? When do you use each?
@@paulscr I have not owned both together long enough to have a defined use for each camera. I use both for whatever purpose I have at any given time. I guess ultimately I'll develop preferences one way or the other.
Thx u John for a practical advice on the hardware
Thanks hope to save you some money and head aches
Leica M11 is my fav camera
I agree for that money ; you can fly out , travel do real photography , and build a Studio if you have a place to put it. The system is beautiful , but I cannot see mortgaging your home to get a system. Yes: Lenses are Beasts too.
If you can earn it back, fine. If not, rent :)
There are a number of problems with your analysis.
Firstly, the claim that the battery life of the 100c is likely to be worse than the 50c seems to be conjecture. Secondly, you refer to the 100c as a 'camera' when it is a digital back. It is a camera when combined with the 907x (though you still need a lens). Thirdly, you have overexaggerated the cost of the outfit you advocate. The camera, plus the lenses comes to less than 30000USD allowing for sales tax, so about half of the 55000USD you say.
In missing that the 100c is not a camera, but a digital back, you gloss over the most compelling reason for buying it and that is that it can easily be adapted to a large format type rig such as the Linhof Techno, together with its lenses which a photographer may already have. Add in the excellent live view capability of the back and you may have a relatively inexpensive upgrade for older CCD type backs and will probably not need a sliding back adapter with groundglass. Have you seen how much a Phase One IQ4 back costs?
Also, you hardly mention that the 100c can be used directly with older Hasselblad V system cameras. All of the 500 system, the 200 system and the 2000 system.
Finally, it would make sense to point out that the 100c can be used in addition to the X2D. If you are out on location and you don't want to carry a load of lenses with a large format rig, a small lens like the 28 and/or the 45 can be carried and you just need the 907x if you want to do some quick shots on the tripod. The X2d can use the same lenses and gives you a more handholdable solution. Add in that all of the lenses have leaf shutters for flash synchro and there is an electronic shutter option and you have the basis for a really versatile system. It is not just a beauty contest......
Agree to disagree
Make your own video
There have been other reviews that have already demonstrated the reduction of battery life.
This is what money looks like
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I look at modern photos, as much as I can. Very few worthwhile! If you are not wealthy, you can do better, with film. What are you paying for? How big a print? iPhone can make huge prints! Buyer beware. This applies to all new cameras, mirrorless etc.
The camera is cheap compared to the lenses you'll need.
John, while your content subject is great;...you really should be doing a lot more first-person, hands-on, personal, very deep-dive research on the materials you generously present to us.
Also, you are dispensing some very good; &, very valuable advice here; but,... advice is >less valuable, ->when: you don't fully finish your sentences; &, >if you don't actually have a experience using a product; nor, did you make an: "In-Actual, Field-Tested/Usage"; side-by-side comparison, of a mentioned product; vs. another suggested one.
Sometimes, ya gotta stop and take a reality check; good job!
Modern full frame cameras give results that 99.9% of viewers or clients will be happy with. Spending large 5 digit sums on a body and a few lenses just doesn’t seem worth it. I know there’s a certain “look” to medium format but really, is how public end consumer really going to know? Short answer: no, they aren’t.
The modern FF, compared with APS-C and m4/3, is the equivalent of the film medium format compared with 35mm. My FF DSLR is bigger and heavier than my old 6x7 film camera, and its resolution is not far behind the digital "medium formats" anyway.
Hello, it's wonderful that there is also a critical voice.
I completely agree that the handling of the 907x 100 is difficult, especially when shooting handheld.
The image stabiliser of the X2D really is a serious advantage.
But where I have problems with the approval is the price aspect.
If I decide in favour of the X system and really need all the lenses, then the price difference is only the difference between the two bodies.
So possibly $2000
Does that make the difference at 55,000? I think not.
Isn't this also balanced out by the fact that I can use the Digi back on the 500CM and the "old" optics, which allow longer focal lengths, e.g. 250mm, without being so blatantly top-heavy?
In addition, can I adapt the 907 or the Digi back to my Arca Swiss. and thus realise real adjustment for architecture? OK, the adapter plate is also not available for cookies.....
Not wishing to offend anyone but it seems to me that the high end classic film camera makers seem to get it wrong when transferring to digital? I got a Leica M9 when it came out and it was an absolute dog IMO, and Hasselblad appear to be doing the same judging by this video.
I quickly got rid of that M9 and moved over to Fujifilm instead, who in my view got everything right.
Now I use the GFX 50r which is "only" 51mp and doesn't have IS built in, but the results are stunning and it does everything I want it to.
I used to own a Hasselblad 501cm and a Leica M6 so I'm not hating on these camera brands, I'm just saying they seem to lose their way when transferring to digital.
"... it does everything I want" Correct - every photographer's needs are different. Also, for major campaigns - rent :)
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Very high price cameras, and completely awful recorded video scene!
Very wise advice. Completely agree. Camera prices have become insane -- I don't care how prestigious a manufacturer's reputation is -- still insane.
John. There aren't many photographers who understand the very high standards of full optic systems like the Fujifilm, Hasselblad, and Leica S2 medium format systems, so I believe you'd be an excellent candidate to write about film or digital media formats in general, as less than 1% of photographers have the opportunity to see the high level of optics that you have.
By the way, thank you again for proving that those who claim the Fujifilm medium format is dirt inexpensive are not delusional.
Hi Albert good to see you. I just got a Fujifilm GFX100/2 yesterday and will be doing a hands on with my GFX100s and Hassy X2d. And yes Mr. Woo and I will be doing discussions on digital vs film medium format so stayed tuned for that. For those who think Fujifilm is dirt and inexpensive boy are they in Lala land. Fujifilm is for commercial work as they have the lens collection for commercial use. Why I say that Fufijilm has 2 new T/S lens which is crucial for us commercial guys. And very neutral colors clients like. Hassy has its own color and does not have T/S lens which is must have.
@@Photojouralist123 Once again, I'm enjoying what you're doing, so you can count on me to check in to see what you and Mr. Woo think of the color science and optics of both systems.
Boy have you saved me!
The big Japanese companies doing presentations and their employees on stage have problem to speak English,need to hire this gentleman for presentation who speaks perfect English…
And he has great stories
Lol I hope you put insurance on those. I can't imagine walking around Washington DC with one. You may as well shout "everyone.. 55k right here! Check it out. 55k price of a car on my neck! Come and see!".
nahhhh…..in DC they’re only after your Canada Goose, Range Rover or Rolex.
@Nafregamisrocanob true. Travel to work for CSX to both DC and Baltimore. See it all
I'd never think about buying a Hasselblad. It contains the word "hassle"
I sold my A7IV, because it was annoying to carry around.
I switched to the A6700.
Awesome! not annoying, not heavy. Awesome results.
The only question: Why only now, in the middle of apocalypse?
📷 I am a Hasselblad shooter. I must say that X2D is the least user-friendly and practically the dummest camera that Hasselblad ever produced. Maybe the second after the X1D. H series cameras are way better in use in every respect, for the fraction of inferior image quality that is absolutely ignorable, unless you are a landscape or a product photographer, maybe. I was already frustrated with the poor focusing capability of the X1D. When X2D was announced I was excited hoping that all the weaknesses would have been fixed. I was thinking buying one. I changed my mind when I saw the camera. It has one drawback and one unforgivable flaw:
1- Even an optional vertical grip would be nice.
2- It doesn't have a thumb stick for focus point selection. What do you do? Do you stick your finger between your nose and camera to find an approximate touch point on the back screen. I have no idea what the design head manager was thinking? Keeping the look minimalistic? Whatever the reason was, it is absolute nonsense. I am not questioning the image quality. But for the usability: that camera is a looser. Seriously, I wouldn't pay even $1000 for that camera body. It can be a nice shelf decoration though 😄
Two things your right it’s a pain in the ass to use for sure I agree ☝️ using your finger to change the focus is crazy. Hence I now have a Fujifilm GFX/2 . My wife is hooked on Hassy and is now the top ten finalist in the Smithsonian photography contest out of 30,000 entries. Works for some .
@@Photojouralist123 Again, as I mentioned before, it depends on what type of photography one does. If one works in a slow pace still image shooting, in which one can take the time to use the touch screen, e.g., landscape etc. not a big deal. But if one deals with dynamic subjects it is arguably the worse camera in the market.
Pro tip: don’t move focus point at all. It’s slow and not precise (especially that most cameras focus the best in the middle of the sensor) plus it limits you to specific focus points (even subconsciously, that’s how our brain works - you would be getting worse composition this way).
Instead, first focus using point in the center and then compose. You also don’t normally need to refocus for each shot. Saves a lot of time.
And if you’re on tripod then you can easily focus by tapping the screen.
PS People used to shoot action photos with manual focus. Everyone just got spoiled with all the AI focus in modern full frame cameras ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Photojouralist123 just proves the point that camera doesn’t matter. I got X2D because I like how it feels and it’s just an inner child in me being happy every time I pick it up to take a photo. I wouldn’t say that my photos taken on X2D are next level compared to my old D750 or even iPhone 😉
Best avoid
So you have spent over $50k in order to make this video! Do as I say not as I do. 😊
Hahah I wish I've spent way way more than that. Its my profession as a photographer and as a hobby. Some buy boats and bass fishing I like cameras.
Got to speed it up a bit bud.
The YT videoplayer config allows you to run video's in slomo or speedup.
@@dweb I know. Simply easier for me to avoid people who are dragging their feet while talking.
Unundated? Inundated.
F ergonomics!