NEW Hasselblad 907X CFV 100c | All you need to know
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2024
- This is my comprehensive introduction to Hasselblad’s new V-System, the Hasselblad 907X CFV 100c. I explain everything you need to know about that new, most beautiful and most capable medium format camera system.
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I was eagerly waiting for your coverage of this camera and the video certainly did not disappoint. Thank you!
Thanks a lot!
Was waiting for your video! Great job and such a beauty is this 907x CFV 100c.
Thank you very much Ramon.
Mathphotographer,
Thank you very much for this wonderful video. I was eagerly waiting for it, … on your channel naturally.
Amazing !
My sincere congratulations on your passionate work.
Ricardo
Many thanks Ricardo, appreciate your kind words.
I’d love a back to back comparison of the four Hasselblad V lenses. I think they’re all great!
Wonderful demonstration!
Thanks for posting. Maybe one of these years I will get my hands on one of these babies.
You should :)
What a beautiful camera system.
Indeed, this camera is in one word just beautiful! And shooting with it makes you happy :)
Superb review , can't wait to see the images .
Thanks a lot!
Thank you for the most impressive video review on RUclips! Greetings from 🇨🇦, eh!
Thanks, greetings back to Canada :)
A great video. Probably the best
Channel for Hasselblad cameras
And lenses. I don t use Hasselblad
Cameras but I enjoy very much to
Watch your videos. It s a dream....
All photographers dream.one day
To use one of the best camera
Ever made....
Thank you so much, Gerard. Appreciate your kind words.
Inspiring. Aspirational. Most of all, I love your images in this video from the X2D.
Thank you very much.
Yes , A lot interest seen the digital back with my all legacy hasselblad cameras
Yes, please do a video of the 100mp back on the legacy camera. Love to see that.
Thanks, will seriously consider :)
I love the digital back. It is such a joy working with it. Very well made review! I would love to see a review using the CFV 100C with the Alpa System. Is that something which would interest you?
yes -- please do a video of the new digital back on the analog body & lens -- thank you!
Will do!
Wonderful..!!! Thank you...
I own a 500, would love to see an in-depth review with this back on the 500. Maybe include portraits? Great review thank you.
Thanks, will consider!
I agree, let's see someone use it with an old camera, not just talk about it.
That's what I am looking for as well. Hopefully you can get it hooked up to a 500.
Its odd I've never really seen a very good in depth one.@@dennislee8253
Hope it happens I've seen some in the past but they were very short.@@dennislee8253
Very interesting and as usual fantastic quality video, a pure joy to watch. Also I love the "human emojs" ! I too would be very interested to see an episode with this back on film Hasselblad, especially to see if these older lenses (both H- and 503- lenses) holds up against the 100mPixel back. And does the adapter you showed that converts the focal length keep or even better the lens sharpness (in the 33*44 crop). Last but not least; I would find it very interesting to see an episode where you talk about your printing. BTW; after after watching your videos I decided to give Zyrich a visit, you shown so many beatiful pictures frrom it.
Thank you very much, will consider that additional video. Coming to Zurich is a great idea, you will see, this city has so much to offer!
AWESOME video.......thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Thank you; enjoyed that
Pro for 35yrs here. I have had mine since just yesterday and I have a few observations already - the contacts on the top of the CFV are a new addition and allow the use of a strobe or trigger - and it was in the box when it came so props to Hass for this addition - this is good - the new shift button on the side is very handy for adjusting +/- exposure - much better than the old way on the CFV50c - the new catch, once the strobe attachment is in place, means it is even harder to accidentally separate the back from the body ie its tricky to remove - this is a good thing - the files are much bigger and unless you have a card inserted you will never get J-Pegs - means it is slower to transfer as RAW files and indeed 100mp files are bigger - especially when remote operating - I use IPad Pro with the camera usually an inch above a stream and upside down - or a long remote boom pole looking down - still quick though - lastly I thought I would mention file and overall quality - I am still not sure it is good as as my old H6D100c - however` the pitfalls of that system are numerous - and this should not be seen a as a replacement (even though I have) but a sidestep for convenience and portability -- if you are in the UK give Clifton Cameras a ring - I got mine the second they had it - and I think I was the first UK customer to get my mits on one - do I love it? No. I adore it - it is delightful.
I prefer Leica M11
@@gurugamer8632 One of the beauties of the art is that there are cameras which work for you - a bit like the Hi-Fi world - some people swear by Bowers And Wilkins - I think they have a very dull and neutral sound for example and are a bit boring -although they look beautiful in a room - but who am I to say - I prefer Monitor Audio for example as I like my sound a bit more dynamic!!!! Good stuff
@@nelsonclub7722 sorry to offend you 😂
@@gurugamer8632 He you absolutely did not - I love Leica - it is my favorite camera system -I have the Q2 Mono and it is fab but unfortunately for my work it is not suitable enough - but if I was to take the pictures I want to do - Leica all the way - and every day -one day I hope - I was merely suggesting that you can have the camera of your dreams whatever you choose - it is not the camera which takes the picture it is the person - a camera is an interface - a tool - and you should have tool which feels comfortable - the Hass system is terribly flawed in many ways - but for my work it is the most suitable - so not offended in any way - maybe my response was not articulated well - good luck in whatever you do - and keep on shooting
@@nelsonclub7722 okay we can be friends 😝 I’m tempted to buy the new Hassleblad. But I’ve spent my money on Sony A7RV and M11.
Please do a review with it on a film camera
Yes - happy to consider.
Great presentation. Best regards.
Many thanks!
Math, I just discovered one more difference between this camera and the X2D. If we choose aperture priority and auto-ISO, the 907X CFV100c would choose a higher ISO and faster shutter speed when compared with the X2D. Hasselblad is aware of the lack of IBIS and is trying their best to reduce the effect of camera shake.
I own the X2D with XCD lenses as well as a 501CM camera with prism & 4 Zeiss lenses. I would love to see you do a comparison using the CVF 100c back on a 500 series body against the 907x with the same CFV 100c back attached. Am curious as to how well the older Zeiss lenses do compared to the XCD line-up using the same 100 mpx digital back.
I always look forward to your videos.
Thank you very much. I will for sure test Zeiss legacy lenses on this new digital back, curious myself how this plays out :)
Thank you for the comprehensive review. I am thinking this is the ultimate carry along camera for landscapes amongst other uses. What holds me back from purchasing it is 1- no ibis and 2- lenses. A tripod would be necessary for quality this camera can deliver however it defeats the purpose of the tiny size. But, it is a beauty, Hasselblad certainly understands camera design, similar to Leica they put great things in a compact design.
Thanks for your nice comment. I love this camera already. In normal light, you never need a tripod. And with that sensor you can go high in ISO and still get clean images after post. And if you go for blue hour or night photography, you are beyond 10sec exposure time and will need a tripod with or without IBIS. So for me the case is clear, I keep this camera and enjoy it :)
Thanks for this great overview. Do you think a portable EVF, like the visoflex, will be made available for the 907x system (for those super sunny days when it is hard to see the screen), now that it has a hot shoe?
Not sure but would be great of course. The EVF on the X2D is a good argument for the X2D itself of course, plus IBIS which you don't have on the 907X CFV 100c.
The holes are for cooling electronic system in the back.
a great review! I'm always surprised when I see how small the 907x+CFV are.
Very small indeed. Thanks for the kind feedback.
I have a complete kit, 503cx with 50,80,150,180,250, extension tubes, proxars, etc. I still love shooting film, processing my own B&W.
My 907x 100c will arrive in two days, but I have none of the new XCD v type lenses. (Yet) I have questions about using the 100c on this camera, metering, live view( bulb setting?) electronic vs leaf shutter. I will look back at your video on the 50c back and see if my questions are answered there.
Thanks for the Video. Do you have problem viewing the back display in sunny days? Or you have a screen protection that helps in this situation?
Hi Hassan, I always have matte anti-fingerprint protectors on the LCDs of my cameras; see here: www.dipos.com / This avoids reflections and if you adjust the brightness to a higher level the display is well readable even in sunlight.
Sorry, its www.dipos.de not www.dipos.com
does the camera lens mount effects lenses design, and which camera get the best size mount for good lenses and images stabilization (Sony, Nikon, Canon or Leica or Hasselblade or Fujifilm gfx)
Great video and what a sublime camera. Bit of a random question, but just like the X2D 100C stands for 'X system, 2nd major camera, Digital + 100-megapixel CMOS sensor' I wonder what the '907X CFV' stands for. Any ideas?
Thanks for the positive feedback. The V-system exists for a long time at Hasselblad, their legacy medium format film cameras are called the "Hasselblad V System Film Cameras"; see here: www.hasselblad.com/v-system/907x-cfv-100c/ My best guess is that the "C" in "CFV" stands for "Compact", the "V" for the digital continuation of the legacy "V-System" and the "F" stands for "Field", at least that's what I believed so far. But honestly, good question and I can only guess :) Maybe someone else knows better or can reach out to Hasselblad to ask how they came up with "CFV" :)
Nice vid. Holes might be for cooling ventilation as well. The 50c definitely overheated under pressure.
Yes, cooling is a good argument although I believe the original purpose was for video.
I liked your idea of locating the shutter and the aperture control button. Hasselblad should listen to you. Also, image stabilization is a must. Otherwise, low-light cameras interfere with dynamic range and image quality. thank you.
Thanks agree. With IBIS this new V-system would be unbeatable!
lack of IBIS is why I didn't order it. @@mathphotographer
I just received my hasselblad 907x 100c yesterday and I have been getting familiarized it; I am a hobbyist coming from Sony alpha system. I have 3 questions for you:
1) on 2 occasions (1 yesterday and other today), the software got stuck displaying “Shutting down” with power light on. I had no choice but to remove the battery. Have you experienced this?
2) I fiddled with the menu and now when I take a photo, the displayed photo is much darker than the composed photo, any hint of why that is?
3) is there a way to rotate 90 degrees the image prior to releasing the shutter? I cannot rotate the display.
CFV Firmware v3.1.0, 907x Firmware v1.3.3, lens firmware v0.1.27 xcd 45mm P.
Thank you.
Question. Where do you get the screen protectors? I can’t find one that fits.
Will it work with iPad Pro with an M1 or m2 chipset via USB-C? I know the CFV-50 does not. Have to use a wireless unreliable wireless connection.
Hi, I have this camera along with a XCD 55mm lens and I’ve been seeing a bunch of bright/burnt pixels in the digital view finder / main screen. But when I take the pics, the pixels don’t show and come out perfectly fine. I don’t have another lens to compare with, what could be the issue? Is it dust? Or something more sinister?
BTW, thank you for your very informative channel 😊
Was able to resolve this by using the built-in calibration tool. Takes about 10 min and it maps all of the hot pixels. Found people having similar issues with the X2D
This is a rather late comment or request, but I was wondering if one could use a gimbal as a stabilizer with this model of Hasselblad camera, and how would it compare with X2D with internal stabilize? I’m just trying to find a way to avoid tripod 😂 cheers!
Did you have any issues with heat?
I would have loved to get the 100c to use it on a tech cam, but since I often shoot handheld, the lack of IBIS is pushing me towards keeping my X2D instead. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Peter, the lack of IBIS is for a lot of people a problem, agree. Tripod is a must have in low light if you don't want to stretch ISO too much.
Very useful - thank you. The big question is - can it provide an economical alternative to the Phase One IQ4 digital back and previous iterations without loss of quality (but obviously the sensor will be capturing images at 100 instead of 150mp). Mounted onto Alpa, Arca Swiss or Linhof should determine if the new Hasselbald back can deliver the same standard of architectural and product photography - now that would amount to a really interesting video if you are up for it?
I whole-heartidly agree with abowbelski!
Thanks - this is a more complex project you are suggesting here but for sure very interesting. What is clear by now is that the Hasselblad H6D is no longer needed although there is one feature the H6D has that never made its way into the X2D and that's the "True focus" feature which is an immense help when shooting human beings. Phase One IQ4 offers natively 50 MP more since the native resolution is 150MP. And the sensor in the IQ4 is larger than the sensor in the X2D and CFV 100c so you can become even more creative with a shallow depth of field.
As you cite, the Phase One IQ4 shines in so many ways. However, Hasselblad’s 100mp is a sweet spot which cleverly straddles the divide between enthusiasts and high-end professionals who can now own a piece by this celebrated brand at ‘a sixth of the price.’ Moreover, the enticing form will leave many weak at the knees. All things considered, there is a quiet revolution going on here and it looks like Hasselblad are out to reclaim their crown. In my humble opinion, with a little more development they are on course to do just that.
I can think of no one better to make this video so it’s over to you …..
(Btw - Having just watched the most recent Hasselblad marketing video, a Linhof Techno makes a guest appearance coupled to the CFV 100C).
Would be interested to see a test of this combination with XPan lenses
On this topic I need to pass, sorry. I do not have XPan lenses although this would be fun :)
hello, thank you for the review. I assume this camera is not for lower-light situations. Also, I wonder about the image quality when you compare it with Conon and Sony. best.
Thanks, this camera needs to go on a tripod for low light shooting. With the X2D with IBIS you can safely shoot half a second hand-held with wide angle lenses whereas this camera here needs then to get sturdy on a tripod.
I can assure you it is up there very nearly close to my old H6100D - not quite as good as as the Phase One 150MPx - but faster and lighter than those systems - as a pro I have used all of those - as for comparing FF - they are blown to smithereens - unless you want speed - it cant do speed - low light - it's more than good enough - got mine yesterday and is almost twice the camera of the 907X CFV50c
hello. thank you for one more amazing video... do you think Hasselblad will release a firmware for face detection for the previous version of the 907x with cfv50II ? thank you
No
Hi Sergio, I don't think so to be honest. The reason is that the previous camera versions (X1DII and 907X CFV II 50c) have only contrast detection autofocus and not phase detection autofocus. For face recognition it is important to have the phase detection autofocus technology implemented. That's why I believe that face recognition is only available on the newer cameras (X2D and 907X CFV 100c).
@@mathphotographer hummm. Ok Thank you for your time 🙏🏻
Does it have a built-in mechanical shutter? Or does it rely on leaf shutter from the lenses?
Hasselblad X and V systems are leaf shutter systems so the shutter is sitting in the lens. No focal plane shutter in the camera or digital back. Electronic shutter though is implemented but suffers a bit from rolling shutter effects if you have fast moving subjects in the scene.
I was hoping you'd also cover the topic of this 100c digital back for use as a back for technical cameras, but you've likely already covered this with the 50c version and that use case hasn't changed. To me, this new 100c is a much less expensive way to get into a technical camera setup. Still super expensive, but less than the Phase One backs, of course.
Spot on comment, compared to a Phase One setup this is a really affordable solution :) And you are right, the use case with technical view cameras is the same with the 50c and 100c. I will nevertheless consider to make a showcase in the course of the year.
@@mathphotographer I think the use case as a tech cam is somewhat different with the 100c - with a BSI sensor, the color issues with using the 50c as a tech cam are mostly gone - this is what got me interested in the 100c and is discussed and shown in a blog article by the Capture Integration site. Thanks.
I wish this camera had a curved sensor with a high dynamic range and with IBIS. I don't know why they don't make it. Is it a choice? Thank you.
I'll like try a Hasselblad but my medium format dream
is still the Pentax 645d !!!
is it correct, that the digital back 100mp cannot be used with the SWC?
And why ist this not possible?
I need to make myself smart on this question, maybe someone else here in the community can answer that?
Just a note - the optical viewfinders come in two formats - one for the new XCD 2.5 lenses and one for the old XCD lenses - 3 lenses on each - I cannot recall which ones they were. Also the optic finder bracket attaches onto the 907X not the CFV100c as you may have suggested. I have the new lenses and the new 100c but not the optic finder so I have no way of knowing if you can mount both the viewfinder and the flash bracket at the same time - I expect you can though - but a strobe or trigger might prevent practical use of either!!!!!
Thank you very much for pointing out, very good comment!
yeees do 503 with 100c and please compare h6d to h2d and 907x 100c :)
Lol - so many tasks, thanks for your enthusiastic invitation to more work :) But seriously, I will consider because its such a cool topic and a lot of people expressed their interest in it like you did.
Does the X2D and 907X have the same lens mount? I can't find that information
Yes they do.
Do you recommend and prefer the Hasselblad X2D 100C Medium Format Digital Camera Body or Hasselblad 907X 100C?
I would be curious as to who manufactures lenses for Hasselblad nowadays, my guess is it is Fujifilm. In the past it was Carl Zeiss and some not so well received by Hasselblad uses was Rodenstock.
Good point. I do not think its Fuji but anyone who has insights on this, pls chime in on the topic.
i have the 50c can i get face detection on that camera now?
No, highly likely not. Face recognition relies on phase detection autofocus which the X2D and CFV 100c have but not the X1D(II) and not the 50c. The latter mentioned have only contrast detection autofocus which is slow and not so capable. So I doubt that Hasselblad will implement face recognition on the 50c or the X1D(II).
Since I have the 907X & CFV II 50C already, and just want to upgrade to CFV 100C, can I just buy the CFV 100C Digital Back only rather than buy the complete 907X & CFV 100C instead?
Good question, I have not seen the digital back selling stand-alone so far. Maybe a good question to address to Hasselblad.
No you cannot - but to be fair the 'frame' is not the expensive part - although I have seen a few on Ebay - so you could do just that - one thing to mention is that new frame is identical to the one sold with the 50c - I got my 100c yesterday and use both 500 and digi systems
Hi, what’s the difference between hasselblad 907x and x2d 100c………..(I just got into cameras)
Hi, welcome to the Hasselblad topic and to my channel :) The X2D is a traditional medium format camera with an Electronic View Finder in the same way as many other digital cameras. The 907X CFV 100c is a traditional setup where a digital back (the CFV 100c) is mounted on a small camera body (the 907X) to get connected with a lens. The digital back can also be mounted on older film roll camera bodies from Hasselblad or on technical view cameras where you can shift the lens parallel to the image plane. I know, this sound a lot like technical mumbo jumbo but there really is a totally different concept underlying the respective cameras. Maybe I should do a video on this topic :)
@@mathphotographer Oh, I think I got basic idea. Yeah I think a video on this will ignite curiosity in many beginners like me 😀
I need an EVF!
Since there are now contacts for the hot shoe adapter, maybe Hasselblad makes one. Would be really cool!!!
the buttons at the bottom of the body are in metal whereas those on the 50c are just plastic
Thanks!
I like your videos a lot but unfortunately you can see nothing in these sample images. You cannot see the image quality, dynamic range etc. of that great camera, when you edit and show them like you did. These images could also been shot with a Canon or a Sony or something. Imo it would be better if you would show unedited images without any animation. Maybe a screencast in Capture One or Lightroom, where you show the full frame and then zoom in to see what the sensor and lenses really delivers. I hope that helped. Looking forward for your next videos.
Thank you Fabian, fully understand. As said in the video, the image quality of the X2D and the new CFV 100c are the exactly same. That's why I said in the video that I quickly show sample images from the X2D - since the 907X just came in and I had not taken any images with the new camera yet. If you screen my channel, you will find lots of X2D videos where I did exactly as you proposed: showed the images in LRC full frame and then cropped in :)
As an owner of a Hasselblad 503cw film system ‘back in the day’, I appreciate the aesthetics of this - but the design compromises are just too great, compared to modern fully integrated bodies. I no longer shoot film, and the modular flexibility this provides isn’t something I want or need. A beautiful item, but not for me. 😊
Fully understand, thanks for your comment.
can the leagcy V lense resolve for 100M?
That's a really good point, I need to test this out and then come back.
@@mathphotographer look forward to it!
Why don't they add image stabilization :-)
@@mathphotographer please do!
Any plans on a Leica 28mm summilux 2023 review?
Hopefully coming soon :) Was busy with a lot of projects.
I'm bit disappointed we didint get ibis with this camera. I feel like they should have included it, being digital back doesnt make it imposible to implement ibis.
If you compare this digital back with any other digital back, its way off superior even without IBIS. In normal light, you are fine. Shooting with high ISO hand-held is fine with this sensor too and after post the images will be clean and sharp. And exposures longer than 1sec will need a tripod anyway, even if IBIS would be incorporated. So for me its clear, I love this new camera, will shoot and enjoy it :)
@@mathphotographer Oh yeah, I agree with what you are saying and I will be getting this camera for myself too, its just one of the things i expected that would be new to the system.
p.s. i already got m11 due to your videos, and i havent regreted it.
Identical body. Just the caps are new…?
The DigiBack holes are likely a heat vent. Metal body.
What really concerns me is the image. The sensor offers nothing over a Leica SL2.
The lesser "medium format/not medium format) sensors are disappointing.
Same with XD2.
You mean X2D :) If you are fine with full frame, the SL2 is an excellent choice, go for it :)
No same resolution with CFE or CFi lens compare to new XCD lenses ok , huge difference in quality
That's a good point whether legacy Hasselblad lenses will be able to deal with 100MP ...
No won’t I have 907x 50C and hasselblad legacy V lenses in terms resolution can’t even come close to 907x XCD lenses ! Night and day difference in quality
@@mathphotographer from my test even with 50cII can’t do 100 megapixel would be even worst !
Not weather sealed - no live histogram I understand - not good for Landscape photography - will stick with my Fuji 100 II - lovely looking camera though.
It is a beauty! But the GFX 100 II is great too and offers more in terms of autofocus and features. I love them both :)
If it was weather sealed, I’d buy. Can’t justify $10k and not have a weather sealed body.
The X2D is the more robust camera if you aim for the same image quality, spot-on.
Maybe those holes are a vent.
Maybe now yes. Originally they were for sound in video shooting.
maybe video in a software update?
Possible but unlikely. I guess the heat problem is making Hasselblad a hard time.
With NO IBIS this camera I will sure give it a pass. I'll stick to my 907x50c
You are right, the missing IBIS is a pity, I would have loved to have it in the CFV 100c.
For street shooting it would be very difficult with no IBIS and 100mp you need to be so still to get a clean sharp image. @@mathphotographer
The lense is way too big proportional to the body… 500 series looks much more correct
very meh photos yuck
waste of a great camera system