CPE Bach is a fascinating North German empfindsamer Stil relatively unknown area of the predominantly Viennese Classical period so dominated by the very different sounds of Mozart and Haydn, to the exclusion of almost all else. CPE was the only composer Haydn ever acknowledged as a mentor and the respect was mutual; apart from one alleged quote, there is almost nothing of CPE in Mozart, apart from CPE’s Versuch (Manual on keyboard playing) which was known to all composers as it outlines in some detail what was to become modern keyboard technique (Beethoven was still using it into the 19th century).
@@111wolfgang The borrowings are actually very few, but there is no doubt that Mozart rated JC Bach very highly and remembered those days in London 1764/65 with affection and gratitude for the rest of his life. In the context of this discussion, JC Bach is to Mozart as CPE Bach is to Haydn
Magnificent rendition! This is the best C.P.E. Bach Magnificat I ever heard so far. Both of Philipp Emanuel's inner personae; Sanguineus and Melancholicus have ample opportunity to express themselves in this masterpiece. His penchant for constant and sometimes reckless experimentation makes CPE a composer that might offer inspiration and artistic guidance for our troubled and confused present historical moment. The grösse Fuge "Sicut erat in principio" never sounded so coherent and unified as here, in my humble opinion. This Fuge is a spiritual bridge between J.S. Bach and the polyphony of Haydn/Mozart/Beethoven.
Wonderful! Wunderbar! Thank you! (I see you use H numbers. I was a music history student of Dr. Helm back in the 70's. He instilled in me an appreciation for early music which is still with me to this day.)
Ô JARDIN DES SPLENDEURS ’ DES CHŒURS & CŒURS 💕 DU MAESTRO 🌟 BACH 🌟 MERC’⚜ POUR CE MOMENT OÙ L’OUIE FRÔLE LE CÉLESTE ❕ ☝***🌈 "CÉLESTEMENT MA LUMIÈRE DIVINE À TOUS - 🔥"🏵🌬 *SPIRIT DÉITÉ* 🕊🏵"🔥
@@dorette-hi4j Listen to it again, with the full score open in front of you - and see how much you can hear. The singers don’t even have time to breathe at this absurd overspeed.
@@gregfolland6569 How often within each phrase do you think singers need to take breath in the opening chorus? There are rests between phrases for them to breathe.
C.P.E.'s music is a string of tired clichés, competently woven together. A well-trained musician but absolutely lacking in inspiration and genius. What a contrast with the bold, shocking, scintillating imagination of his father! And oh! all the bullshit comments below which seem to be generated by RUclips bots.
@@alindmay Good point, but CPE’s music is categorically *not* Viennese (mainly) sturm und drang, but his own very personal take on North German empfindsamer Stil.
NisanyanS Music is sometimes like listening to someone speaking a foreign language one does not understand; you may appreciate the sound as in the case of Italian for example which is naturally very beautiful, but may not understand a word of the message. I would suggest that if CPE is a foreign language to you, the lack of understanding might just be your problem not that of CPE; I have a similar issue with the music of Debussy who I might well describe in the words you have used above, I would not however, because I understand the problem is entirely mine. Your analysis of CPE is mistaken, but to use another metaphor, music is like food - some you like and some you don’t and it’s a personal thing with no right or wrong answer. CPE is actually one of the few composers to put his own musical aesthetics into words, if you are interested in challenging your own problem with CPE, get a copy of his Versuch and read the relevant sections; if not, just think of CPE as I do Debussy, but be wary of making bold statements that are in fact as inaccurate as to fact as they are unrepresentative in judgement.
Fabulous and original, on his own style
Great tempii! CPE at his best is much more than just 'Hayzart' ...!
CPE Bach is a fascinating North German empfindsamer Stil relatively unknown area of the predominantly Viennese Classical period so dominated by the very different sounds of Mozart and Haydn, to the exclusion of almost all else.
CPE was the only composer Haydn ever acknowledged as a mentor and the respect was mutual; apart from one alleged quote, there is almost nothing of CPE in Mozart, apart from CPE’s Versuch (Manual on keyboard playing) which was known to all composers as it outlines in some detail what was to become modern keyboard technique (Beethoven was still using it into the 19th century).
@@elaineblackhurst1509 but Mozart borrowed
a lot from J.Christian Bach...for example the piano concertos...
@@111wolfgang
The borrowings are actually very few, but there is no doubt that Mozart rated JC Bach very highly and remembered those days in London 1764/65 with affection and gratitude for the rest of his life.
In the context of this discussion, JC Bach is to Mozart as CPE Bach is to Haydn
Excelente!!!! Maravilloso trabajo coral y estupendas voces solistas!!!
Magnificent rendition! This is the best C.P.E. Bach Magnificat I ever heard so far.
Both of Philipp Emanuel's inner personae; Sanguineus and Melancholicus have ample opportunity to express themselves in this masterpiece.
His penchant for constant and sometimes reckless experimentation makes CPE a composer that might offer inspiration and artistic guidance for our troubled and confused present historical moment.
The grösse Fuge "Sicut erat in principio" never sounded so coherent and unified as here, in my humble opinion.
This Fuge is a spiritual bridge between J.S. Bach and the polyphony of Haydn/Mozart/Beethoven.
hay grabaciones antiguas que toman el coro inicial a menor velocidad, también lo prefiero.En el resto esta interpretación me parece excelente
バッハの音楽は心の清涼剤
CPE Bach マニフィカト
初めて聴きました、素晴らしい、深い感動を、感じました、アカデミー
ハンブルク演奏、素晴らしいです。
Lovely performance, perfect in every aspect.
Bravo ! J'aime votre version et votre interprétation de Carl Philipp Emmanuel Bach !
Excelente orquesta y coro , este Magnificat de C. Filip nunca lo había escuchado , gracias , saludos desde Chile ❤😊
Magnifique!!! Continuo (orgue) très inventif dans l’air de basse.
So vibrant and thrilling! Orchestra, choir soloists and conductor are giving their all to this beautiful performance by infamous C.P.E, Bach.
Why 'infamous'? Did he do something terrible?
Cool!
Excelente!!! No hay palabras... NUESTRA MADRE MARÍA seguramente muy feliz!!! 🌷
Primorosa e inspirada composição. Nada deixa a dever à homônima de autoria paterna.
This is wonderful! I have always been admirer of CPE Bach and his music, and understand why he was considered a very great master in his own right!
9:03 食事に行こうと言ってくれたが、とうとう誘ってくれなかったわね、適当に歌えばよいわ 11:05 やはり素敵だわ、
Wonderful! Wunderbar! Thank you! (I see you use H numbers. I was a music history student of Dr. Helm back in the 70's. He instilled in me an appreciation for early music which is still with me to this day.)
各パートの躍動感が､1つ1つ心に伝わり！･まさに三位一体《独唱･合唱･合奏》の研ぎ澄まされ見事な響きの共演に感無量です。👏👏🤩‼️
やはりこの人、ヴィヴァルディに影響受けた親父とは別の境地を目指してた気概を感じる。
初めて聴いたけど、やはりこの人はもっと評価されるべき。俺は好きだぜ、カール・フィリップ・エマヌエル・バッハ。大バッハの次男よ。
そしてこの弾き振りしてる人物は何者…？
I agree with you.
Bach continuum❤
very precise conducting
Sangat indah.... musik yang luar biasa..... ❤
この作品を聴いている後ろで微笑みながらバッハ好きの神様が聴いているような気がしてきます
🎉Erhebend !! Vielen Dank😊
Wunderschoen aus ibiza
Ô JARDIN DES SPLENDEURS ’ DES CHŒURS & CŒURS 💕 DU MAESTRO 🌟 BACH 🌟
MERC’⚜ POUR CE MOMENT OÙ L’OUIE FRÔLE LE CÉLESTE ❕
☝***🌈 "CÉLESTEMENT MA LUMIÈRE DIVINE À TOUS - 🔥"🏵🌬 *SPIRIT DÉITÉ* 🕊🏵"🔥
יוטיוב הציע לי להאזין, נהניתי מאד.
At his lifetime CPE Bach was even more famous than his father...
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How interesting seeing politically correct version of Carl Philipp Emanuel.
The fake "baroque" brass strikes again... holed trumpets and horns, OMG!
Opening chorus - MUCH! - TOO! - FAST! …. Resulting in an INAUDIBLE BLUR! … Absolute chaos … 👎
I can hear it clearly just fine.
@@dorette-hi4j Listen to it again, with the full score open in front of you - and see how much you can hear. The singers don’t even have time to breathe at this absurd overspeed.
@@gregfolland6569 How often within each phrase do you think singers need to take breath in the opening chorus? There are rests between phrases for them to breathe.
@@dorette-hi4j Remainer and/or cyclist, by any chance? … Please advise.
@@gregfolland6569 ???
C.P.E.'s music is a string of tired clichés, competently woven together. A well-trained musician but absolutely lacking in inspiration and genius. What a contrast with the bold, shocking, scintillating imagination of his father!
And oh! all the bullshit comments below which seem to be generated by RUclips bots.
I like it. Particularly his unique forte piano transitions . Sturm und Drang full of innovation.
@@alindmay
Good point, but CPE’s music is categorically *not* Viennese (mainly) sturm und drang, but his own very personal take on North German empfindsamer Stil.
NisanyanS
Music is sometimes like listening to someone speaking a foreign language one does not understand; you may appreciate the sound as in the case of Italian for example which is naturally very beautiful, but may not understand a word of the message.
I would suggest that if CPE is a foreign language to you, the lack of understanding might just be your problem not that of CPE; I have a similar issue with the music of Debussy who I might well describe in the words you have used above, I would not however, because I understand the problem is entirely mine.
Your analysis of CPE is mistaken, but to use another metaphor, music is like food - some you like and some you don’t and it’s a personal thing with no right or wrong answer.
CPE is actually one of the few composers to put his own musical aesthetics into words, if you are interested in challenging your own problem with CPE, get a copy of his Versuch and read the relevant sections; if not, just think of CPE as I do Debussy, but be wary of making bold statements that are in fact as inaccurate as to fact as they are unrepresentative in judgement.
Complete nonsense
@@markusboyd4834
You have probably said more in two words than I did in four paragraphs.
chat replay is disabled * who gives a fuk