Where the Godzilla Anime Trilogy Truly Fails
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025
- Of all the problems one can find with the anime movies, one stands out above all the rest.
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The actual monster apocalypse seems like a more interesting plot than what this movie decided to show.
They already seem to be using that idea for Godzilla: King of the Monsters.
The Monster Apocalypse books created my favorite version of Gigan.
"I'll be sticking with the American movies... so long as they don't screw up either that is."
(Looks at recent Godzilla King of the Monsters Trailer for the x amount of times)
Some how, I feel we're gonna be just fine with the American movies.
Kaiju Conspiracy They know what the people want at least
@Latrell Lloyd Not as sad as replying to a comment made 2 years ago thinking they're gonna make an impact when everything discussed at the time is already passed.
Oh and context note. King of the Monsters 2019 received nothing but love from me. Still does. I love that movie.
(Looks at the Godzilla vs Kong Trailer for the nth time)
Indeed.
This is why I prefer the Monsterverse. It's different yes, but it still treats the likes of Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Ghidorah, and Kong as how they're supposed to be treated: with respect.
Ian Greene
Couldn't Agree more, Legendary's Monsterverse is Amazing despite only 3 films made into it thus far, I'm calling it that the New "Godzilla: King of the Monsters" film is going to be Amazing in every Giant monster movie way. And the execution of it all since "Godzilla 2014" has been nothing short of spectacular.
You prefer this Monsterverse where fucking kids are able to play with the monsters like a pokemon go. lol Are you kidding me. Godzilla is leading the military.....This is not TOHO. This is not true to the product. Its gay....Kong will probly lick the human in the next movie
Somebody never saw Godzilla vs. Megalon.
Dude, the concept of humans communicating with and controlling the monsters is a concept taken from various points in the franchise. IT. IS. NOT. A. NEW. CONCEPT. Also, the military isn't being led by Godzilla, they're just joining him to fight Ghidorah because, I don't know how to put this... GHIDORAH IS A LIVING EXTINCTION EVENT FROM OUTER SPACE. Chances are, Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, and humanity are gonna take heavy offense to the fact a three-headed, genocidal, space dragon wants to wipe out all life on Earth.
Or read Half Century War. Or watched the Hanna Barbera cartoon. Or even so much as seen anything related to Godzilla.
I hated how they treated Rodan and Anguirus, showing only their skeletal remains. Two of the most iconic momsters Toho ever made treated like props. They could have at least showed them doing something, instead of showing the skeleton of a regular Pteranodon and a fragment of a crocodilian jaw.
The scorching Pteranodon The Guys who did Anime Godzilla doesn't seems like they didn't respected the Kaijus.
Kano Sazanami Not really.
I don't see the problem here. At least they showed them at all. Rodan may look like a regular Pteranodon, but you only see his skeleton for a few moments so it's not that bad.
Well they die hundred or million of years ago, since Godzilla is top of the food chain, so most species on earth currently is spit creature from Godzilla Earth, how can they fight a overpowered version of Godzilla when he got an uncontrollable army
What they were in there?!
The movies are just so much wasted potential. Why make Godzilla into an anime, without any limitations, and make Godzilla stiffer than ever and give him the least screentime in the whole franchise and have 95% of the time humans making plans and walking around? Godzilla gets shot at most of the time and occasionally attacks. Why make a nanometal T-1000/ T-3000 style Mechagodzilla with a design and concept art and not use it? Why not morpg the city into a gigantic Mechagodzilla. Why don‘t they use more unique creatures inhabitating monster planet and use them, instead of just give them 10 second action scenes which go nowhere? The planet feels empty and looks boring. It feels lazy and without ideas. It has so much buildup, yet no payoff and it goes nowhere. By far top 5 least favorite Godzilla movie material. Shin is great though and my favorite of the new Godzilla movies as of now.
dirtymeehan Exactly my thoughts. The payoff for the 2nd anime film feels like a letdown. I was so hyped for a MechaGodzilla fight and when it didn't happen I felt ripped off
I feel it could've been better if they'd just made an anime series instead of a trilogy of films. Maybe with more screentime things like this wouldn't be as half baked. Maybe, that is. It could still have easily been bad if they made it a series.
I agree completely. The characters of this trilogy are the only thing that keep me interested at this point, but the rest is just so boring and wasted potential. Frankly this doesn't even need to be a Godzilla movie.
@Latrell Lloyd godzilla fans raging over a different take on godzilla fr
That moment when you realise that Transformers did the idea of a Mechagodzilla city far better than the anime Godzilla trilogy in the form of Trypticon.
Strange that the late 90's American TV series was the best animated Godzilla.
Axl117 Nice. I haven't seen it on DVD. I hope it gets a Blu-ray release.
KlingonCaptain you should really say late 90's, too not confuse it with the Hanna Barbara series
Ah yes, thank you. I will edit my post now.
I've seen the animated series as well. While the 98 movie was terrible, the series was pretty cool and nostalgic, as it payed tribute to the 1960s era of kaiju movies.
Hell the 1970s hanna barbera cartoon was better than this
The movie would have been so much better if the actually used all the nanometal on the city built trough time to rebuild mechagodzilla and sent it to fight Godzilla.
I think it would've been better if they used the Nanometal around MechaGodzilla's head and had them fighting Godzilla as a distraction while they try to rebuild Mecha-G. Then, the movie ends with MechaGodzilla fully repaired and roughly Godzilla's size about to do battle with the monster it was created to fight against.
Ian Greene I agree.
King Moon that's what I thought was gonna happen! But instead just built a city.
Thats what I thought Ani Mecha G was gonna be. Something like the human race has survived by taking refuge in Mechagodzilla's corpse using its weapons to fend off whatever came near, and then the new humans come back and reactivate mecha g to use him to battle Godzilla
There's literally any number of better ways to use a FREAKING NANOCLOUD. Compared to the potential of that thing even 300m tall Godzilla is just an animal. How the hell did the bilusaludo manage to lose their planet in the first place??... ah, whatever. Probably AI gone rogue or one of the absorbed ones.
It is really sad when the chibi versions of MechaGodzilla look better than the version from the anime.
Tao Jones T.jones I know right.
Tao Jones T.jones i slightly liked the design and well just not as a MechaGodzilla
wait... MechaGodzilla was in these movies???? WHERE???
Hope u are not mentioning those three mechas which flying here & there at the later part of d story.
Remember that this mechagodzilla was built by aliens
Spoilers.
I hoped to see Mecha Godzilla vs. Godzilla action but was disappointed. And i thought Mothra was going to hatch.
Geo Xev I totally agree with that, I don't understand why they marketed Mechagodzilla in this film series all for him to not do anything!
martin caspary-smith 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
Campbell Bryce What!?
Valentino Becerra But she left her egg to Houtuans. Maybe in the third movie,, the new Mothra will team up with King Ghidorah.
Geo Xev technically speaking, MechaGodzilla DID show up, just in the form of a giant military fortress.
I still have preferred some actual Kaiju action though..
I totally disagree about the quality of shin Godzilla though. I thought that movie was great, with a unique and haunting version of the big G. The scene where it used its atomic breath was one of the greatest city destructions ever, and it was truly horrifying.
c'mon dont talk about shin Godzilla
Gem Samson no we will talk about Shin Goji. For a walking zombie monster he has a much fresher take on the monster than LegendaryGoji
DinoboyLou but shin gojira is not a Zombie i mean zombie will eat humans and shin doen'st cuz hes a godzilla
Gem Samson Actually his second form did eat some people they just didn’t show it bluntly.
And he’s not a zombie guys lol
He’s a mutant abomination which is the most evolved being on Earth.
He’s one of my new favorites now.
Check out Wikizilla to know all the info on Shin, then go to DMan he’s a good Godzilla RUclipsr and he explains Shin better and actually understands him and the movie unlike this RUclipsr.
Gem Samson a better definition for zombie is a reanimated corpse, not just something that eats humans. You're still right tho, shin isn't a zombie.
My biggest gripe is it doesn't do anything different from other animes. It's just attack on titan with Godzilla in it, angsty and edgy main character wanting to avenge his dead parents, and just running around being edgy yelling " you bastard ".
Agree completely.
Yeah that is what did it for me. The main character is just angry all the time. I can imagine him talking just as angry when writing out his shopping list...
Alex Mercier Thank you! I've been saying this for months, the main character is basicly Eren Jaeger without any of the character development
David Matta Glad someone else sees it! I kinda enjoyed attack on titan but Eren does have a few stereotypical protagonists tropes found in many other anime. The main character (who I can not even remember his name) in Godzilla is, sadly, no different.
Then you have the added trope of, he wants revenge, fine, but doesn't want to get his hands dirty doing it. Just about everyone else with him, after he convinces them to stay, is willing to sacrifice themselves, for the most part, in order to destroy Big G. But when it comes down to it and his anime girlfriend is put in danger even though she's willing to do it until the hidden under plot is revealed that they have to give themselves to the nanometal, he chickens out and tries to act moral about it.
Its kinda ironic that America seems to be doing better Godzilla's films than Japan.
sure, the 1998 one was a hit, right?
GIPSY no but 2014 was and the new one looks great
eleking gudon Shin Godzilla was better than the 2014 one.
1998 is one time (and first time ironically) that America screwed up
me too opinions dude
Your last words. "I don't want more kaiju movies just to have them".
It should be applied to many things.
That applies to star wars
Whether you like it or not, Shin Godzilla tried to do something different and tried to run with it! They tried something new, and gave him a reason to exist! Hideaki Anno and Shinji Higuchi tried! The anime Trilogy did not.
Plus there's the fact that Shin Godzilla was a VERY big success.
And won several awards, including best picture, in Japan (if only the Oscars gave it more respect).
Raphael Marquez Yeah Shin Godzilla should get a Oscar shure haha. Still think Shin Godzilla is a really boring movie. Rather just skip to the parts when things happen.
That is why I’ve had respect for the creators of shin Godzilla and the movie itself, it tried something new, ran with it and honestly for me it worked, shin Godzilla has actually become one of the most rewatch able godzilla movies for me and is one of my favorites
Roy Blekman so literally the only godzilla parts? did godzilla 2014 bore you too?
I don't know, Shin Godzilla was amazing to me. People trying desperately to figure out a way to stop him, how the Japanese government works as many of their laws were the result of their surrender in WWII giving them fewer options and a lot more red tape to cut through, the US involvement which may lead Japan to be hit by more nuclear missiles, and basically how terrifying and destructive Shin Godzilla is.
It's a Godzilla movie I've never seen before!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the US wouldn't just drop more bombs on Japan just for the hell of it. And why couldn't the Prime Minister just call the US to ask for help?
Honestly I think we'd have a better Godzilla anime if they based it on one of the stories from the Godzilla Comic
I'd like to see them adapt one of the IDW comics.
Rulers of Earth.
Personally, I wouldn't mind an adaptation of Cataclysm or Half-Century War.
wolfmantheimpaler I would like to see an animated series adapt those comics
wolfmantheimpaler debatable
Could not have said it better. I have more faith in Legendary
They screwed it up as soon as they decided to have it set 20,000 years in the future.
True
Neon Dawn wait, was that first? Well let’s not debate and say that whichever one was first is right.
Spencer Baxter agree
Neon Dawn agreed
I Heavily disagree. I think it’s awesome to see a Godzilla movie that doesn’t make you wonder if Godzilla or the humans won. We get to see a movie where Godzilla has already won and we actually get to see the consequences. I like seeing an Earth overrun by monsters. Problem is: THERE’S NO FUCKING MONSTERS, AND THE TITLE MONSTER IS IN TWO MINITES OF THE MOVIE. I think the concept is brilliant. The execution? Mediocre.
Actually the reason Godzilla is a plant is to justify him as the ultimate form of life. That's what the directors stated when discussing this, about how plants get far bigger than animals, how plants can conduct electricity, all to justify Godzilla becoming this massive unstoppable creature. He's an angry redwood with the mindset of a vine-get to the top.
So, he's a giant destructive monster with incredible powers who cannot be defeated by conventional means...just like he was before.
Still not seeing any reason for him to be a plant.
Probably to shut up anyone who says "Oh Godzilla can't exist so this movie sucks" like Shin Godzilla tried doing as well. The change is unnecessary sure, but it is unique and kinda justifies other changes they made like how the atomic breath works and how his regeneration makes sense. From a scientific stance, it could be brilliant, but as a change in narrative I understand why you see it as unfit.
When do thay say he's made of plants??? I sat through part 1 for like three times just to hear that.
Either watch this ruclips.net/video/5G53P3rShwE/видео.html
Or read this godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/Godzilla_Earth#Design
Omni Viewer The reason Godzilla Earth is a plant is because he is based on the world tree of Norse mythology. Just as the "realms" of Norse mythology are on branches of the world tree, the earth practically revolves around Godzilla. However, I will agree the anime trilogy was disappointing.
Also Shin Godzilla is a more realistic version of how would the Japanese government react to Godzilla suddenly showing up and wreaking havoc. Honestly if you still don't like Shin Godzilla or (somehow like) the anime trilogy, that's fine. You are entitled to an opinion and I have mine. Let's just all agree Godzilla: King of the Monsters looks amazing.
The way you described Anime Ghidorah was not that far off
I like the general concept of this universe. But the way it's executed is just not good.
@STEVE LE well said.
The only thing wrong with Mechagodzilla's design is the face. In my opinion. Most of him looks cool.
The recent movie upset me just because I was hoping to see MechaGodZilla in his full glory he’s my personal favorite and this really shot my hopes..
This trilogy was so bad to the point where it shouldn't even be canon to the Godzilla franchise.
I completely agree, I thought Planet of the Monsters was okay, but I was really disappointed with this 2nd film. At the end when Godzilla destroyed mechagodzilla city I was hoping for a new upgraded mechagodzilla to rise up out of the flames and have an actual kaiju battle for once... but no. The movie just ends. I also saw the whole Ghidorah thing coming a mile away, it didn’t send chills down my spine or get me excited, I sighed in disappointment. Why are they going to make a film using the same two kaiju they always do especially when we’re getting an American take on those same kaiju at the the same time!? If they replaced Ghidorah with, say, spacegodzilla. Give him a new backstory and make him the final enemy for the third one then that would get me excited, but they decided to play it safe. I look at these films and all I see is waisted potential, let’s hope the monsterverse can still be good.
Atomic Productions Ehhh space godzilla wouldn't really fit since they kinda hyped up the very name of the creature. For it to just be another godzilla would possibly be the worst thing the anime trilogy could do.
Atomic Productions I agree that if mg would have rebuilt it's self when Godzilla destroyed it it would have made it better to me it's better than shin Godzilla it was just a boring movie with a Godzilla that has nothing but atomic breath and the only complaint I have with Godzilla earth is how his atomic breath like it doesn't even come out of his mouth it just sits there it would have been better if he at least opened his mouth
RIP having a decent film that people like that doesn't have infinity plot conveniences
mainwhile I'm still waiting for any hope of Gamera making any sort of return, I just hope he is still trated with respect
DarkLizerdGuy Or Ultraman
The Amazing Iris Returns Ultraman is still around.
some pizza guy Oh
I actually enjoy it so far but it most definitely won't be for everyone especially hard core Godzilla fans and I see your points, hopefully we get a new Godzilla anime series in the future that could appeal to the fans again or hell have America to do it making it an anime inspired series like Avatar and Voltron
worst case scenario, a "Godzilla Roar"
Ah, a man of culture aswell
They made a really cool Godzilla series based on 1998 GODZILLA. So I'm pretty sure they can pull it off.
Honestly, the idea of a Godzilla movie/series in the same art/animation style of Legend of Korra would kick so much ass.
I liked the idea of mechagodzilla city, that is untill mechagodzilla didn't use the city to form his body and it was just on big pitfall for godzilla and well... it got boring when nothing happened, especailly oh godzilla just sat there to "cool off" from that burning form of his
Thats not how nanometal works or the plot of mechagodzilla was portrayed. Ps the aim of mechagodzilla is to destroy godzilla long term not, execute order 66
After two movies of boredom even if the third movie is amazing it won't help this blad series
David Brown It needs a wig.
even if the third movie bring Ghidorah and Motha, the main human protagonist likely gonna butt in and ruined it anyway.
There is no way they can just push him to the side and have another "Let them fight" after all.
Shikni Ful amen man
very well explained, the way you articulated the voice against these films was done superb.
I recall "Godzilla: Final Wars" was as divisive as some of these new features, and that was way back in 2004-5. Truthfully, I am one who does not totally dislike this recent output from Toho, but I will not deny that many have issues with them.
I could not Stop falling asleep through these.. I had to rewind like 20 times
The Anigoji series is just so disappointing to me, they have all these cool ideas like a planet that Godzilla won, some awesome and older kaiju being brought into the spotlight, the affects on humans being stuck in space for so many years, but it just doesn't do anything with them. I wouldn't say i disliked them but they were just so bland to me, and a lot of people said "oh well it's just the first part of a trilogy, it'll get better" But look at things like the classic Star Wars, they were 3 movies but the characters went through arcs and changes in each one.
"Wait for the next one, it'll get better" is what they said after Star Wars 7, too....it didn't.....
+Dakojin It’s a shame really. They’ve been given all of this cool shit to work on but instead they shove it in a book and waste all of the potential instead. The Monster Apocalypse is way more interesting then these films. The fight in City on the Edge of Battle is pretty much the same fight from the first one but with less people. This should’ve worked but this was just executed horribly
Honestly, i think the Attack on Titan movies were not really that bad but i think the Attack on Titan movies could been a lot better. But hey, i much rather watch the Attack on Titan movies than OLM, Inc's cringe worthy abominations known as both the I Choose You movie, The Power of Us, Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution, Secrets of the Jungle, Pokemon Journeys, Pokemon: To Be a Pokémon Master and Pokemon Horizons because i rather watch the Attack on Titan movies 5000 times more than both the I Choose You movie, The Power of Us, Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution, Secrets of the Jungle, Pokemon Journeys, Pokemon: To Be a Pokémon Master and Pokemon Horizons.
I don't necessarily agree that it's a failure, as I did enjoyed the 1st one and the city on the edge of battle I haven't seen yet. Plus I think the biggest problem with this series is how it skims over alot of compelling and interesting world building, as it doesn't reach its ideas to the max. I would have liked planet of the monsters to be set during the kaiju apocalypse, showing us how these creatures took over and the big last stand against Godzilla, but all of that is skipped to the main story. It is almost like final wars where it has a bunch of monsters but it doesn't know what to do with them, as many of them don't get that much screen time and focus. Well i'ma go see city on the edge of battle to see if I agree or disagree with everyone
This is why I enjoy The Monsterverse and Shin Godzilla. Their both better than Anime Godzilla. So no more divide between the Monsterverse and Shin we can all agree the Anime Godzilla Trilogy Sucks.
The idea of mechagodzilla being a city is amazing. The concept of a colossal robot being a city has been execuded perfectly transformers with characters like Metroplex, Trypticon, Fortress Maximus etc. I'm amazed that this concept failed so miserably in the film. Come to think of it thr anime trilogy is the equivalent to the Transformers Prime Wars trilogy; a web exclusive trilogy of poorly written stories with bad voices and animation but together.
I actually had my own idea of how the anime trilogy should be:
What if there were other monsters ruling the earth besides Godzilla and each one terraformed their own territory. However, they all want to expand it and are in a constant battle in an ever changing environment. The main conflict for the human would have to be planning which monster they would need to eliminate first.
Mechagodzilla city has already been done. In the original transformers cartoon. The cityfomer Trypticon. A giant t-rex robot that changes from a robot to a city.To get an idea of how much trypticon if you haven't seen him looks like Godzilla in the AVGN episode were he reviews transformers games the final boss of one is trypticon and he calls it mecha Godzilla. Look up trypticon and tell me its not mecha godzilla
Yoshiedude Trypticon is not Mechagodzilla
trypticon is not mechagodzilla but it was done better than how the anime movie did this concept
b10tfg1 you know it would look like that in bayformers probably
I wish they would have treated him like Trypticon, cause then he would have done something other than nothing
the fact that they hyped up the fact that mechagodzilla was gonna be a major player in this movie like he was gonna be a real robotic clone of a unknown species that came onto that earth was the biggest turn off of the movie, they hyped mecha up with the posters which was a good marketing plan but horrible promise of a unused concept
I my Opinion *long gasp*
The designs for the kaiju sucks, They killed it with the sizes of the kaiju, They made the absolute most RIDICULOUS Origins for Godzilla, They overuse the Popular kaiju, They don't even show the Said Kaiju, They don't even use the under rated kaiju confirmed to exist in this Universe. I doubted this ever since the first trailer for planet of the monsters dropped.
What...? Thats not what monster planet was made for, 2014 only used 3 monsters in total so i dont know what you mean
@@jameshannay7376 They called it planet of the monsters, and there are only 3 monsters.
@@HydragonofDeath technically there were 5 🤓👆
@@jameshannay7376 Ghidorah, Godzilla, Mechagodzilla, Mothra, thats 4
@@HydragonofDeath Godzilla Earth, Godzilla Prime, Ghidorah, Mechagodzilla, the Dragon thingies, and Mothra, didn't even count mechagodzilla the first time
I find it a bit sad that the 2014 movie captures the spirit of Godzilla much better than its Japanese counterparts right now.
I hate these godzilla films to me these 'films' feel like a very long teaser trailer.
It's because they are very connected to each other. They really shouldn't be treated as a trilogy, but as parts of one story.
some pizza guy that's cause they are
Even worse, teaser trailers that just flip the bird at the audience instead of paying off
Has anyone noticed TOHO lied about SpaceGodzilla & Hedorah being in the last film a year ago. Plus Godzilla has actually had Anime before. And also the novels sound WAY more interesting and cool like with a monster apocalypse, an organic Gigan, and many interesting reimagining of kaiju. TOHO could have gone with a Shin Godzilla sequel or prepare with the new Godzilla universe but no they went with this. Plus the anime can't even make up with character. Hopefully if they go the Shin or try to understand Godzilla they can do good.
yolanda castro They're doing the Godzilla universe thing after Godzilla vs Kong
Toho never said Spacegodzilla and hedorah would be in the film, it said they would be featured in the universe. Hedorah appeared in Monster Apocalypse, and Spacegodzilla probably died when Godzilla killed Ghorath.
THE NOTORIOUS K.E.K wouldn't it be monster x inside gorath? Spacegodzilla has never been closely associated with gorath, and I doubt they'd just fodder him off like that.
Tenebrio morio Monster x is related to Gorath. I doubt they waste SpaceGodzilla & X for that shit, because considering what's happening they might waste their appearances.
The issue being that if Monster X existed in this universe,
1. There would be 2 Ghidorahs, and it would be weird to have the most powerful known Ghidorah killed that easily
2. Monster X hasn't appeared in any of the trademarking for the films or the novels, and if Ghorath was indeed monster X then there's no point in hiding it like they did with Ghidorah, seeing as Ghidorah was COTEOB's big reveal.
3. Monster X has appeared only once with Ghorath out of the 2 times Ghorath has been featured in Toho media.I feel that whatever's inside Ghorath is pretty free to interpretation.
Of course, this being Gen Urobatchi, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out "Ghidora" is the Exif word for SpaceGodzilla and the three golden energy beams on the poster are in fact his corona beam. Unlikely, but imagine the mindfuck that would cause. almost as much of a mindfuck as the entirety of Evangelion or BOLKKY BOII Shin.
I honestly don't understand this visceral hatred towards Shin Gojira. It's a great movie and a great homage to the original 1954 one and what it represents. Shin represents the 2011 disasters in Japan (Earthquake, Tsunami and Fukushima) and thus, the movie portrays him as the original did; As a force of nature. I honestly don't know what you want from it. Godzilla isn't just about fighting monsters and being "cool" you know?
You know epic monster fights are what a lot of people and fans want right ? Especially when they teased mechagodzilla on the first official poster .Just because the original movie had no monster fights means that all the Godzilla movies should be like that ? Hell no. If you want a Godzilla movie with no fight watch Shin godzilla or the 1954 one .You can like them ,that's fine but I d rather have a ''cool monster fight '' than a boring movie with Godzilla just walking and doing nothing .
I Do like to have Godzilla in my Godzilla movies GODDAMIT!!!
Well the Godzilla anime was a disaster, but we have the monsterverse and we can expect to see some older monster from Toho or compleatly new ones
The reason he's a plant is to fix a lot if the problems of him being so big because of the fact that he's a plant he is able to support his own weight whereas if he were just a normal reptile he wouldn't be able to at least gang was the official explanation
The monsterverse has done it right so far.
@Latrell Lloyd you sure about that seeing how well gvk has done lol?
I love how the 2nd movie hit Netflix right before I had a convention panel for Godzilla to host for the weekend. Basically decided to tell the whole room not to bother watching the 2nd until maybe the 3rd comes out.
I'm honestly enjoy these movies. Although some part were truly underwhelming. And I totally understand the Godzilla true fans disappointment in this.
It's really disappointing when we're expecting an epic battle between the big G and Mecha G only to see the Mecha G turned into a stupid town
Not gonna lie the anime characters are probably the worst among the two films because it honestly kinda feels you like watching a bunch of idiots on planning an attack against an famous character. not to mention they're also uninteresting (not Godzilla) escpecially the main character he's the reason why they got defeated by Godzilla at the first film and he's also the most idiot among the characters the only thing that is on his mind revenge, revenge against The King of Monsters (These anime characters are disrespecting the famous Kaiju of all time!). By the way, in the finale of the 2nd movie, when Godzilla successfuly destroyed the city I think it would be epic if an 300m Kiryu bursts out of the flames and fights him.... no there's no 300m Kiryu in that scene the film just annoyingly ends and that's it but for me the ending is ok for me though because when Godzilla wins he reminds me of Thanos from "Avengers: Infinity War" where Thanos also successfuly wins at the end but still the 2 films kinda makes an dissapointment to the fans especially the anime characters (you know what let's just wish that all of them got killed by Godzilla because there's no hope for them anyway) I almost forgot, the only thing that makes the characterization of Godzilla is also kind of a failure too because he's not like Lengendary Godzilla (Godzilla 2014) who mostly can move his body swiftly and normally now this anime Godzilla only does this in the 2 film he just walks forward and really slow, strike his Atomic Breath, Roar in anger, walk, strike, roar that's all he does he doesn't pretty much do anything not to mention that he only stands like a gigantic statue at most parts of the film and they kinda also mockingly changed the characteristics of the King of Monsters they made his characterization into a kaiju half plant and it is said that when humans are still not existing Godzilla buried himself into the earth and made all of the life forms on earth.... this change is shit Godzilla element in the film should be an Element of the Atomic Age not a creature giving birth to anything. also if the MechaGodzilla city is new... why the buildings cannot turn into 300m MechaGodzillas to give the King of Monsters an overwhelming defeat and attack him and destroy him completely?!!!? what a failure film. I think it would be better if Mothra made her appearance in the climax and fight the King of Monsters. you know what... we gotta all agree that the 2 anime films were a failure to the fans but even tho Godzilla sucked at the anime films but still.....
LONG LIVE THE KING OF MONSTERS!!!!
Did you watch the whole film or half the first one. Haruo is heavily developed into a much more open character by the end who SPOILER
Killed himself to save the human race from hate and development
@@jameshannay7376 no he has zero character development!
Alex youtube channel ok?
@@jameshannay7376 he's not developed! He's a plot device!
Polygon Mechagodzilla looks more like the skeleton or interior of mechagodzilla than the actual mechagodzilla.
Agree to disagree. I thought it was awesome and a great modern reinterpretation of Godzilla and its various themes and tropes. The twin girls were clearly a reference to the Mothra girls. The aliens were in keeping with Showa-era Godzilla aliens and showed that all intelligent races were, like humanity, doomed to be destroyed by the monsters they created by abusing the earth. This new Godzilla is the ultimate embodiment of that concept, a literal force of nature which causes the entire planet to move on without humanity in its evolution. It had the best artistic direction, the most unique designs, and the most creative and well thought out plotline. Its prologue has amazing prequel potential and is fascinating to think about. It's an Elseworlds/What If scenario that works on its own merits, but if you try to compare it with all the things it ISN'T, then you'll be disappointed.
Thank you. There's no good trying to compare what this movie is to something that it's trying to differentiate from. That's how you keep a franchise from going stale. The AnimMechaGoji is trying to be different from the same IMO generic MechaG design that we've had so far. It looks different and unique, and it's sheer craziness in design is what makes it standout as a monster. You can't really say "because it's chibi toy was made horribly, means it's an overall bad monster".
^^Well said, both of you.
Disappointment is the result of high expectation.
The only Godzilla movies I truly hate, they are poorly made and they aren't even bad in a way that's it enjoyable.
These movies have REALLY good concepts and ideas but waste the fuck out of it. All the cool shit happens off screen and there's never a goddamn payoff. The intro scene to the first movie should have been the whole fucking movie, we should have gotten to see the world taken over by the Kaiju, we should have seen the humans making their desperate escape.
The second movie is just a joke, worst Godzilla movie ever made. They used MG's name simply for marketing, if we were just gonna see Godzilla fighting an AI then there was no point to call it MG, they did that because they knew if they didn't that nobody would fucking care. I mean shit....we don't even see Mechagodzilla in action literally at all, SO WHATS THE POINT!!??!
And the third movie? I don't give a fuck, I grantee KG isn't even gonna show up until the last 15 minutes and the fight itself will probably just be Godzilla and KG staring at each other.
I MEAN FOR FUCKS SAKE!! HOW DID THEY FUCK THIS UP SO BAD? HOW DID THEY WASTE SO MUCH POTENTIAL AND GOOD IDEAS? HOW DID THEY THINK ANY OF THIS SHIT WAS A GOOD IDEA?
One more thing....I would prefer that we see a Godzilla anime done with traditional 2D animation.
It's a monster movie. There's nothing wrong with saying you're just here for the monsters, we all are. When we see Godzilla, no one is jumping up and down in excitement to see yet another anime protagonist who tells all the time because his parents are dead. We're excited to see Godzilla itself destroying other powerful and unique monsters. We barely get that in either of the movies
if you're gonna make a mecha g figure, feature the whole thing in the film.
I watched the first episode of One Punch Man today and i realized that anime is the best medium for breaking a lot of shit in a badass way, and they just dont do that in these movies, starring GODZILLA!
I prefer the showa mechagodzilla looks like the inside of the next Apple product
It's typical modern Japanese story telling. Story and logical plot progression take a back seat for the sake of hype. Change for the sake of change. Explosions for the sake of a blockbuster climax. It has riddled Japanese movies and anime in the past 2 decades.
The one area where the Anime Trilogy did NOT fail, and I say this as my own personal opinion, is in the music department. Takayuki Hattori composed a truly unique and interesting score for the series, and even though it may not be as catchy or as memorable as other scores in the franchise, it's still a decent listening experience in its own right.
@45Kimber1911A1 I meant that in the sense that it's something about the movie that I genuinely enjoyed.
Agree. Great music 🎵
These movies felt like they were forced upon students to be written in a sweat shop during their second job's hours.
I missed the suit Gojira, the Groot-Zilla is such a mediocre monster. I rather watch the LEGENDARY Godzilla or Shin Godzilla.
Agreed.
I agree with this guy, I was really disappointed when I watched both films
These animes are godzilla version of bersek 2016/2017
My biggest problem was that I thought they'd use it being animated to throw in as many Kaiju as possible.
Instead there have barely been any Kaiju at all...
My problem false expectations of monsters which was my fault and ya I agree with you the pointlessness
The worst part of the Godzilla anime is that it hardly feels like Godzilla. Even Godzilla 1998 felt like a Godzilla movie.
98 Godzilla doesn't understand Godzilla either, as that Version looks or acts nothing like Godzilla
I knew Godzilla anime trilogy was a failure in the begin with
Miguelverse Studios Well of course you did.
*applause*
Miguelverse Studios well the first one was good the second is trash
Adrian Steven Din I could agree with that
Miguelverse Studios and probably the third one will be good
Adrian Steven Din I hope so
This series is the perfect example of what happens when you have great ideas but you execute it horribly
This entire video is really pushing it, because most Zilla movies don’t have good character development, most are not original, most don’t have the best quality and most repeat the same origin story.
So what if he’s a Plant?
So what if Mechagodzilla looks different? Design is something that isn’t objective - as far as I’m concerned I like the design.
The only issue I have with this series so far is that there hasn’t been a monster on monster fight. That’s literally the only thing I can see that bothers me. But Godzilla here does feel like a force of nature. As he was originally intended. He’s not some dumb character, his job is to be a terrifying obstacle which represents something that humans have to deal with. That’s how it was in the very first film. And you’re like seriously calling yourself a fan of the series? Boy you’re just mad this isn’t like every other Godzilla movie.
This series is pretty decent and refreshing. Only reason I can see people wanting hate it is because they just need to complain about everything lol
Ironic because you are complaining right now about everything from his video . You know not everyone has to like what you like right ? And people have the right to complain we are not mindless shills enjoying everything .And by the way you wouldn't complain if someone tease something on a poster and when you watch that movie hoping to see it you get a big dissapointment in your face ? Being a fan of the series doesn't mean you have to blindly like everything from that series .This is not an origin movie .And the design is something objective especially when Mechagodzilla was supposed to be a robotic version of Godzilla and not a city .Not every Godzilla movie has to be like the original .If you liked this ,that's ok but not everyone has to be like you
So being refreshing means they have to push false advertising ?
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I’m not complaining, I’m pointing out the obvious logical flaws in this video.
I’ve even admitted the only real sad part about this series is the lack of monster on monster action. But aside from that, it is objectively better than most Godzilla films. But that’s not hard to realize considering most Godzilla films are not objectively good lol they’re popcorn flicks, for the most part. Hell I’d also say they missed a big opportunity by making the prologue of this film be regulated to just an intro. The prologue would’ve made an excellent movie on its own.
I honestly cannot see how anyone could call this series a failure when the standards being applied would mark most Godzilla flicks as failures. Seriously rewatch this video and think. It’s basically saying “I wish this Godzilla film was as good as the trash I like. Now let me apply logic I would not apply to the trash I wish this was”
It’s intellectually adolescent at best.
Albert Rodriguez How is this better than most godzilla films ? With no monster battle ? With only boring dialogue and people walking around ? A lot of people and fans are tired of Man vs Godzilla thing .This series is a failure especially because of the story .How are these characters planning to take the Earth back when Godzilla is unkillable ? And most of all who they can survive in this new terraformed environment ? Think a bit .They can't even walk without those suits that gave them oxygen .There are no food for them or even drinkable water .All of them were changed and now they are toxic for the humans .This story is just bullshit .Also they can't repopulate the planet again since they are an even smaller number after the fight with the first Godzilla .These characters are ment to die not defeat Godzilla
Pointing the obvious logical flaws ? This is exactly what everyone is doing with this anime series but you called that ''complaining about everything ''
I honestly don't mind this anime series. It takes a different approach sure, but I still believe that even though the monsters are downplayed, there's an alternative story to approach.
But Omni, Toho isn't responsible for this trilogy, Polygon and Gen Urobuchi are. While I can't defend the other points because I agree with them, I've got this for Godzilla. I'm getting the idea that you didn't catch the parts where they state he was evolved through horizontal gene transfer, meaning, he possesses DNA of many different creatures. And for the life, all life on the surface is literally mimicking him. Creators said he's the pinnacle of evolution on earth. It really shows. Because he's smart enough to realize after his first attack failed to be productive, he had to try and get in closer and physically assault the city, but not so smart that he'd begin to behave in a way that would be non beneficial to the earth, like sentient species such as humans. In my opinion, the human characters misunderstand Godzilla completely. Godzilla movies love the "fear and destroy what you don't understand" cliche, and I've a feeling that's exactly what is happening. And you yourself stated that Gen Urobuchi saves the best for last way back when we were speculating about POTM. Did you forget that this seems to be in line with his previous works? And I'm still mad that we aren't getting SpaceGodzilla.
Well, Godzilla being the result of horizontal gene transfer is glossed over amidst all of the other technobabble speeches in these movies, so it's very easy to miss and means nothing to anyone who has only seen the movies and hasn't read the expanded material.
As for Gen Urobuchi svaing the best for last...well, any good writer knows not to play his/her best hand too early, but that doesn't mean everything beforehand should be filler. Puella Magi Madoka Magica had one heck of a finale, but everything before that was also great. It was a steady escalation as the world became darker and more horrifying. I can't really think of anything in that series which counted as gratuitous filler, certainly not the way City on the Edge of Battle did.
Preach it man,I feel like they just used Godzilla as a base to move along their "Kaiju" Anime. You can literally change the name of Godzilla and make him a generic fire breathing tree lizard and it could be its own forgotten anime. xD
I'm afraid that Toho won't make any more Godzilla anime if the trilogy's a failure.
+Vic Rattlehead Nothing wrong with anime. It’s just the fact that they’ve given it okay CGI with a meh plot is the problem.
Cody Starr the anime definitely aint a failure, most critism or hate for the trilogy is by the west and by long time godzilla fans. Its doing pretty well in japan and even been selling toys or products for the movie great so far. You ever heard the saying "no one hates star wars films as much as star wars fans" yea the same applies here with the western fans. Of course personally I find the movies pretty meh so far, hopefully the third installment can give my giant monster fighting fix lol. Not saying the critisn is bad or unwarranted, but frankly I feel like this guy hung on trivial things of the movie rather than the larger inconsistencies of the story and made this whole video more negative and harsh than it should had been.
Great Video Omni!
I actually really enjoy this series. XD and I’m a massive godzilla fan. I really don’t get the criticism personally. It is different, and you could argue that its only different to be different, but Im honestly cool with different takes on godzilla and I think this series is pretty good. Not amazing but good.
The problem is that this film has some really good ideas, they just aren’t executing them good enough though.
I agree the Godzilla trilogy isn't the greatest, but I really liked Shin Godzilla. The changes it made weren't done to the fullest, but it at least respects the monster it's portraying.
I love Shin Godzilla. I think its a really smart movie with great camerawork and many great visuals but the anime trilogy is to boring and uninteresting. It has everything in it i dont like from godzilla movies.
Nah shin godzilla is terrible.
@@alexyoutubechannel8175 Your terrible
I like the main characters. They are the only reason that keeps me interested. But the way the Kaiju's are being handled is a true waste in every form.
In my personal opinion, I'd say it's unfair to consider the trilogy a failure when we don't even have the full trilogy yet.
Danny K 2001 I believe it's fair. If a normal movie is horrible for 2/3rds of it's runtime, it's fine to say it's a horrible film.
Velociraptors of Skyrim This isn't exactly the same as a single film being a failure. The story is incomplete and Toho have one chance left to at least try make things right.
I just feel like it's slightly poor judgement to give up all hope for the trilogy when it isn't finished yet.
Danny K 2001 Given their track record currently, I don't have hope that they will get it right.
Again, though. My argument still stands. A movie that is shitty for 2/3rds of it's runtime is a shitty movie. So even if they do get the last part right, that's not instantly going to make the whole trilogy good.
Velociraptors of Skyrim Let's just agree you and I have very differing opinions on that logic, and the Godzilla trilogy in general
Danny K 2001 I say it's unfair to call a trilogy a failure when the two movies that came out so far are good, and great in that order.
I like two things about this trilogy:
1. The backstory is awesome: Essentially, for what ever reason, monsters have appeared on Earth and are attacking. The military is fighting back and manages to defeat them all with the exception of Godzilla who shows up later on after years of monster attacks. It's primary in the novel: Godzilla: Monster Apocalypse
2. Godzilla Earth. Not only is it the largest and arguably most powerful Godzilla iteration we've seen but its connection to the planet is just such a cool concept.
I will say I do like other things it does and it reminds me of how Final Fantasy manages to incorporate troupes from its other games into the newest ones such as moogles, Cid, Bahamut and so on. This trilogy takes a bit from previous films such as MechaGodzilla, Aliens, Space travel, random monsters and even Godzilla's son, if you could call it his son, in the first film. What I don't like is the annoying anime things it takes with it in the trilogy which I'm surprised they somehow managed to avoid, like squeezing in a high school and dumb love triangle where each character is too afraid to tell their own feelings for each other. Ugh.
Wouldn't call it awful just....not good. The problem, for me, is that it feels like this film was made on a very scarce budget. Plus I'm a little biased because I HATE anything that has CGI in it, especially if the CGI isn't done correctly but I do like Godzilla so I'd give it a shot. Its not amazing but its not awful, I'd say its "Meh" at best. Good video btw!
Alien 9? That's a deep anime pick there. Respect. And I'd rather watch Alien 9 again than City on the Edge of Battle... ha, I almost called it that old Star Trek episode, City on the Edge of Forever.
I'd say the problem with Godzilla anime is that it has the same problem as Shin Godzilla... it pretends like it's the only Godzilla film, if not monster movie, ever made. "Here, let me say this name, you will be surprised!" or "I think it's a giant monster!" "What, in a monster movie? It can't be!" You can get into the individual problems but they all tend to stem from the arrogance of the production team... as if the name "True Godzilla" wasn't enough of a clue.
But that's Shin, Godzilla anime wants to straddle the line between shlock 70s Godzilla of its themes of "Giant robots! Aliens!! Underground Earth cultures!" with, we can be specific here, Godzilla 1984 and its solo human, solo monster revenge plot. One problem that anyone should notice right away is that they don't mesh, at all.
But there's one stupid problem here that's even bigger than that: the film is Planet of monsters and you're Toho and you own these names and designs so have some named monsters fight. Introduce new ones alongside the old ones but have monsters on a planet of monsters. 1: Gigan. 2 Megalon… I want to say Mechagodzilla but that can't be right... 3 Biollante; If there was anytime to bring back the giant plant, this was it.
Alien Nine is actually my favorite anime/manga of all time. I plan to do a very thorough analysis of it one of these days.
Good points in your comment as well.
Godzilla 1998: Look as I will change into something so drastically different I'll be almost unrecognizable
Anime Trilogy Godzilla: Hold my beer
At least Godzilla Earth looks like Godzilla
Guys..
Let me fucking explain.
ITS TOHOS FAULT!
It was Tohos fault we had Godzilla fight a fucking city. It's their fault we didnt see Anguirus, Rodan or Biollante. Its Tohos fault we didnt see more Godzilla screen time.
Also, Godzilla isn't a fucking PLANT!
The Plants hide are as protective as Godzilla.
The anime, one thing I am GLAD I HAVENT WATCHED.
Anime MechaGodzilla=Tazerface
Anime Godzilla=overweight Tree in my backyard.
American Godzilla= Kaiju who ate too many cheeseburgers
How would you picture Toho doing a new King Kong movie Omni viewer. His is public domain and putting him in the Toho shared Universe does
Not that you're asking me, but if I heard that Toho was making a King Kong film a few years ago, I'd be overjoyed. Not only is Kong my favourite monster, but I absolutely love his two previous films made by Toho.
However, the last few Godzilla films produced by Toho haven't exactly been great, in my opinion. So I'd have mixed feelings at best. Still though, you'd never know if it's good or not until you see the final product.
Given the current situation, I'd be dreading it.
In the right hands, though, I'd be interested to see the results. Maybe they could revive Mechani-Kong as well?
After an hour of the second film, I said “ are there any monsters in this monster film?” Boring
I basically agree with everything you said. Except for the fact that you imply that Jurassic World might be a good movie. It's not. But you are right that a generic cheesy bad monster movie that understands its monsters, like Jurassic World, is better than a bad monster movie that doesn't understand it's monsters like the Godzilla anime.
This movie trilogy wasted my time lol. I cant believe ppl sit down a write a godzilla movie focused on the stupid humans for 9/10 of the damn movie.
I quite like this trilogy, the characters are great, of course, The problem is that there is not much action, but its a good drama
Shiny Gamer The main character is, personality wise, almost the exact same as the main character from attack on titan. They even have similar back stories and intentions. Both are edgy and angsty and want to kill giant monsters because said monsters killed their parents. And they fly around yelling " you bastard " because it's not like that's the most used insult in anime outside of " damn you ". I would say the drama was awkward and pointless and characters just didn't make any sense to me.
Alex Mercier You make it sound like being an Attack on Titan inspired character is a bad thing. Me, I'm absolutely into character driven stories where the protagonist has a deeply personal reason to fight the enemy aside from just killing the bad guy and save the world from monsters. The thing that actually ruins it for me however is the way the Kaiju's are being reduced to pure background more than ever. This video actually described it the best. I liked the characters, but that's about it.
nexusshark to me it's just a lame copy and pasted generic anime trope. He has very little personality aside from getting upset and being angtsy. I don't even remember his name for crying out loud that's how uninteresting he is to me.
Alex Mercier Tropes are just media tools. Seeing them re-appear in media is not a bad thing. Haruo is not only vengeful and angsty, but also loyal and idealistic. He cares about his team mates and has shown compassion. He has character flaws like being quite reckless sometimes, but he has also shown ingenuity in defeating Godzilla Filius. He has also grown past his personal revenge on Godzilla and instead focuses on fighting for the sake of humanity. Though with Yuko's death that may revert back to personal (though he can't really blame Godzilla this time). I only watched both movies once and I did indeed remember some of the important names. I can get invested in these characters.
nexusshark I personally, can not get invested with these characters. Just not my style I suppose. You do you though.
I agree with almost everything except few little stuff.
3:33 Godzilla was allways a symbol of the power of nature.
If nature is in such way it make sense to Godzilla to be similar to that as well.
Plant are usually seen more close to "nature" than animals... making it a plant it became *Nature*.
4:35 I guess they wanted to try a different design to make it more unique... when you look at it you don't say "it's mechagodzilla" you say "it's the anime mechagodzilla".
This Mecha doesn't try to be "Godzilla as a robot" like all the past incarnations... It is Godzilla'opposite.
Anime Godzilla is a plant and has several "rounded" parts... this MechaGodzilla is litterally the opposite... spiky and metal.
I think they succeded in that regard.
I enjoy both films
8:52
Gigan, space godzilla, and destroyah were also possibilities and I wanted it to be gigan or destroyah because they would be slightly more unique storywise.
U didn't have 2 be so harsh
I kinda like this series
It can’t handle the monsters, they made them into plants, what’s next, zombies?
Ok?
+Darth Roastus Godzilla being a plant was never really the problem. "Plant" designation doesn't mean much, when you're a giant walking lizard-shaped thing, clearly sentient. In fact, theoretically with all the elements present, it could have been a competent story... I have Aldnoah.Zero flashbacks again.
Hey at least little girls kids cant play with them and touch them like little puppies lol. Legendary Godzilla is the most harmless human pet who cant even take a few rockets hitting him.
Um, that wasn't Godzilla Madison was touching. That was Mothra. Of course she would allow a human to touch her. It would be out of character for her NOT to do it.
Wait for Ghidora to show up before we call it boring. And he's coming.
That's right! I actually enjoyed this! FIGHT ME!
I wouldnt call this an absolute failure especially since the 3rd movie isnt out yet and has promised ghidorah. i dislike 1 and 2, but it succeeds in that its an anime with godzilla and a lot of people have been watching it.
“The best monster movies are the ones that remember the monsters are characters, too.” What an exquisite saying for such an exquisite monster.