Theres Satan. Then there's Shockwave.
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2023
- I knew Schockwave was bad. As the chief scientist and tactician for the evil Decepticons, you'd expect no less, would you. Um, well, I started looking into it and the level of this guys cold, calculating malevolence dwarves perhaps anything in cybertronian lore.
Lets look at some of his worst deeds across the continuities, including gen1, Transformers Prime, Cyberverse, IDW, Marvel, Dreamwave and more. I can't hope to list them all, so get in the comments!
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You know you're evil when you explain your plan to Megatron and he tells you to slow down.
or he goes. "you know what? Imma help Optimus"
Megatron: shockwave... My second most loyal decepticon I have had the pleasure of having in the ranks.... *I'ma need you to calm the fuck down ._.*
@@leonides1527 Calm down Satan LOL
Bro you got 666 likes, like the shockwaves bbf number
Megatron: I know I did some inhumane things but I think u slow the fuck down
You forgot his crime of being an incredibly mid villain in dark of the moon.
That's how mid he was, he deserves to be forgotten
Still looked badass
@@rogeliovaldez6594 fair, but still, he was wasted.
@@surreal_nihilist Pretty much every single character was wasted in the Bayverse movies.
He deserved to be a main villain of his own movie
Day of Shockwave
1. wake up
2. try destroy everything
3. sleep
Why try when you can do it - Shockwave
@@LuciusDidus hi dude how are you
2.5 proving that you're still acting logical
@@saykou1070 hi dude how are you
@@ar12ketchup7 fine and you
There was a running gag in IDW, that, whenever something we didn't understand happened, we'd say "Shockwave did it." Now, imagine my surprise, when, in the tail-end of the entire series, they reveal...THAT SHOCKWAVE ACTUALLY DID IT.
What a magnificent bastard. Love the guy.
When the memes become canon
IDW G1 was Shockwave's fault. Dreamwave G1 was Shockwave's fault. It always comes back to him.
@@acedelta12 hi dude how are you
@@thesadistor-hl7lw Doing good, how about you
@@acedelta12 I'm great so can I ask you something please
Cartoon Shockwave: Will die for Megatron
Comic Shockwave: Will make anyone die for Logic
FOR SCIENCE
For Logic!
Shockwave is a firm believer in the Sword Logic.
Comic Shockwave would kill Megatron 50 times if the voices in his head (logic) told him to.
Cartoon Shock Wave turned on Galvatron
Logically, it’s only a war crime if you lose! ~Shockwave
he's not wrong
History would prove that Shockwave is right
Sigma Shockset.
Oh that's what USA does!
@@nik_ms what we did aren’t crimes… because we won
The scariest thing about Shockwave is that he isn't evil out of malice or spite or anger, he's evil because he believes that all ends are justified by their means.
In that note technically speaking he’s not even a Decepticon he just works with them because they give him the resources required to do his experiments. I’m sure if the autobots gave him more tools, resources, and gear he would easily switch sides just like that.
@lelandholmquist2467 and morally allow this types of experiments, because Saint Unicron, HE IS BALLIN with the experiments
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all _means_ are justified by their _ends_ *
Congratulations you just described H-tler💀
I can’t believe you forgot to mention what he did in Cyberverse after the initial plan to control the Allspark *failed.* He tore his own spark out so that he’d enter the Allspark. The issue here is that he’d tainted his spark to make it *so evil* that even touching the Allspark nearly obliterated it. And he knew this would happen. Was specifically aiming for that result, in fact. This man tore out his own spark in an attempt to *destroy the equivalent of the Cybertronian Afterlife.* Say what you will about the other Shockwaves, at least they only killed you once. This Shockwave was going to *erase every Cybertronian that has ever died.*
GOOD. LORD.
Kinda ruined by immediately being countered by Cheetor doing same plan in reverse. Shockwave being to stupid to kill the guardian there, or atleast make sure the equipment would be disabled after his death.
And worst of all it seemed more like he was just following Megatron's order to do it
HOLY SHIT THATS BOTH DARK AND BADASS!
He even told the person guarding the allspark that he had done a terrible job before he offlined himself, brutal
@@Hooy-Jaymay Guardian, *you have failed.*
He literally tried to end the universe AND then went back in time, became a PRIME and again tried to destroy everything by helping Unicron come into existence.
It’s all for scientific purposes dude
All for sciens
hel uñicorns hybred earth
Bro was playing career mode he didnt give 2 shits
He also killed Onyx Prime
"There's Satan. Then there's Shockwave."
That sums up Shockwave's whole existence perfectly.
That summary is logical.
anyone know the meme where he says. “*FEMALE*” I thought they were extinct.
@@SpinoAnimationsYTyeah he's sexist
I still can't get over the fact that the "Aerial Bots" aren't called the "Aerobots".
@Desperateashell he’s also a bigot, according the the EarthSpark series. Some may call him based.
I wanna make a small correction, Transformers Prime Shockwave was actually left for dead, and was blind after fighting Arcee and Cliffjumper, he later awoke in the wreckage of his space bridge after Cybertron had been abandoned, this makes him surviving an even bigger feat since he first had to repair his eye, this is also why Starscream was so shocked and really afraid in the scene of Shockwaves return since he was the one to leave Shockwave for dead.
Says a lot about TFP Shockwaves armour and resistance, dude survives anything
He was shot in the most sensitive part of his body, had a spacebridge blow up with him inside it, and he *still survived.* His durability’s ridiculous.
@@CasualNickname He has enough endurance and durability feats to surpass even Megatron in TFP, Shockwave has objectively better armour, the best actually, in a bot that isn't upgraded or other than Autobot/Decepticon
I remember Shockwave confront Starscream as for why he was left on Cybertron. Starscream said that since the planet was deserted they didn't expect Shockwave to came out
Shockwave's response?
"Your reason... is logical"
"...He...lives...?"
This showcases why Shockwave is the best deception in the hole franchise next to Megatron.
He’s cold blooded and ruthless, but at the same time cold and calculating. He’s strong, with plenty of firepower. But also insanely smart and is able to build incredible weapons and technology. He’s also got the brains and patience to make these big picture plans that can effect the hole universe. And if he betrays someone, it’s not completely obvious or over something petty. It’s for a reason and you’ll never see him coming.
The guys the complete total package.
He's Metal Sonic with no emotions
I’m jealous of him because Soundwave is my favorite and Shockwave is just better than him in every way
U mean starscream? Silly typo Ik!
I thought this was the Transformers franchise, not the Hole franchise
@@Pieceof_Paper hi dude how are you
There’s really something interesting how over the last decade or so shockwave went from a loyal lackey to a threat bigger than the main villain of the franchise
Shockwave was badass from the start in the comics
@@universalflamethrower6342 marvel shockwave managed to almost get the decepticons to victory over the autobots
and he still pales in comparison to idw shockwave
I mean, his decisions are definitely more logical than Megatron's
In the tie in movie media he brutally murders autobots for the lolz
From my recall, Soundwave was Meg's toady, Shockwave always saw him (and all the other Deceptions) as means to an end
Shattered glass shockwave must be a literal saint
Edit: Of all the smarts comments I've made this is the one people care about the most. Remember aspiring RUclipsrs, its not about having quality content to give to the world, its about being as excruciatingly early as possible!
No I think he's a priest or a doctor idk
I thought he was a politician
@@ashleywimmers6481 a politician turn mega sensitive bot due to empurata. He can't normally anymore if im not mistaken
He is actually pretty good. Here’s his profile on tfwiki: “Kindly and well-spoken, Shockwave is a well of empathy. An older bot, who uses his massive arm-cannon as a cane more than as a weapon, works to build bridges between beings. Compassionate and wise, he lets his spark lead him, whether as a Senator or as the Decepticon ambassador to Earth. Even attempts to curb his nature by his enemies have only made his empathetic nature more powerful, to the point of overwhelming him. While his compassion leads to his use of a defensive fighting style, his firepower is more than capable of taking down any Autobot who threatens those he protects.”
Jesus Christ loves you all, repent and believe in Gospel
You know Shockwave is seriously and mentally ill when even Megatron, the biggest antagonist on the franchise, the symbol of evil that is Decepticon, *HESITATED* when viewing Shockwave’s evil plan.
Lmao
@@HunnaD2003 hi dude how are you
Yup
Unicron: "I am titled the ultimate evil to all sentient life in the Universe."
Shockwave: *Finish your chores, Son.*
Unicron: *sad Unicron noises*
@@merafirewing6591 hi dude how are you
A reminder that in Transformers Prime Shockwave was considered such an incredible threat that Megatron considered him significant enough to literally change the tide of the war with the autobots
And he sure did.
Just to emphasize this, between Knockout finding relics like the Dark Star Saber and finding Shockwave, Megatron was happier he found Shockwave.
@@CasualNickname Shockwave is that big of a threat considering g he brought a whole species back from the dead and did the Cybertronian equivalent of Body horror to the Lightnigjt strike force to make them into the Dinobots
And he made Starscream do the cybertronaian equivalent of pants-crapping when he asked why he'd been left behind.
@@CasualNickname knock out found the forge of Solaris Prime which Megatron used to make the dark star saber
Remember that shockwave once decided to end the known universe twice cause it was inefficient, just for the face value of true meaning and logic
You dont fear a man who wants vengeance or glory or domination, you fear Shockwave, a character who would do anything if it fits his cognitive function, even ending existence
Basically, you fear the crazy man that listens way too much to the voices in his head
@@davisdf3064 that would be understating shockwave as a character, his decisions are of his own logical conclusion, there is no voice, no outside force affecting his choices other than the factors to his conclusions, he doesnt just wake up and be like: hey imma end the world now. No, he wakes up, see its half pass 9 and contemplate on why time moves so fast and uncontrolable, and he will find a way to bend time to his will, so when he wakes up it will always be 7:30, thats shockwave, thats his decision to bend a force of reality because its not ideal
Instead of just setting an alarm clock, but hey you gotta be efficient, a clock would take effort, while time bending is forever
Shcokwave let his intrusive thoughts win
@@darthvaderdylan all shockwave has is one big intrusive thought
its pretty hilarious that shockwave pretty much said, im going to end existance, logically it makes sense.
its such a coked out, rick james thing to do!
Now I understand why you left Shockwave out of the list of most evil Decepticons
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@@natek4488 hi dude how are you
He wouldn’t fit!
@@mechanwhal6590 hi dude how are you
@@thesadistor-hl7lw I’m doing alright. You?
Shockwave is one of those characters who's names both adequately and fail to summarize their character - bro causes ripples in the fabric of space, society, everything - shockwaves, if you will - with his every action
If Shockwave hasn't committed at least 13 war crimes before breakfast, he considers it a slow day.
And he’ll gladly make time for a few more if his schedule frees up.
"Logically, due to the lack of list of various war crimes, *I shall gladly expand it* "
Illogical, it is twenty committed by breakfast or it's a slow day
So an early ww1 Canadian on every drug imaginable, then put into a robot body?
Eeh I'd say make it 24 war crimes. Then any less it's a slow day.
So basically Shockwave is a pretty shocking guy
Shockingly enough yes
*BOO*
That's shocking
STOP
That's shockingly not that shocking knowing shockwave
Shockwave in prime is always terrifying. Whatever happens you know he will mess someone up when he's on screen. Even the good guys feared him. They often refuse to fight him unless they have every advantage.
And even then, victory is not guaranteed.
Shockwave is such a gamechanger that the instant Megatron found out he survived, he considered it a better find than the Iacon Relics they recovered, including the Immobilizer and the Apex Armor.
So shockwave tried to turn the ponies of equestria into energon but the reason that failed was because the power of friendship was too much for him? I love it.
I hate it, I say it should have been something a bit more logical then "BeCaUsE oF fRiEnDsHiP"
@@mangofamm9361found shockwave’s RUclips account. Did you have Soundwave set this up for you?
@@mangofamm9361, maybe. But shockwave, the logic boogey man, getting trumped by the power of friendship against all logic is thematically appropiate.
@@ADAJ342 I say if it were put in a more logical sense, the ponies would have defeated him using their various magics they have, which if used correctly, can be a deadly weapon
@mangofamm9361 my guy it's literally mlp x transformers no need to get so deep onto it
Fun Fact!
Shockwave is the one and only Decepticon, that Megatron is terrified of. He outranks Megatron in nearly every category; the only thing keeping him from overthrowing Megatron is his loyalty.
Understandable
I like to think that he only allowed himself to be under Megatron's command so that he doesn't have to deal with managing any of the deceptions and other stuff that aren't super important to his scientific cause so that he can focus solely on his experiments. Megatron had the following and man power, Shockwave knew he needed that to continue his work, so it makes sense to keep Megatron alive... so long as it continues to benefit him.
that and he couldn't get the other Decpticons to work together, he knows leadership is not his greatest strength
Well Megatron leaves Shockwave to his own devices. So much so that Shockwave becomes the default Guardian of Cybertron in Megatron’s absence. Also Shockwave has no charisma and would rule through fear. Everyone would flock to bots like Starscream if Shockwave took over
@@TheUncivilizedNation Shockwave is kind of like Stalin if Megatron is Lenin
Shockwave is peak transformers. Literally the best character in almost all mediums
*except Bayverse*
@@mercury2157 lmao
eh the idw one bores me
Nah soundwave is.
@@mercury2157Even in the bay movies, shockwave still had a massive presence compared to any other decepticons.
Just imagine how evil you are that even Megatron says "hey bro...why don't you chill a bit there."
Shockwave is definitely a "The end justifies the means" sort of character, but amplified to the extreme due to not having emotions/empathy.
The worst part about his deeds is that he has a logical explanation for them.
Possibly the few antagonists in fiction that can logically justify their warcrimes.
He's gonna logically ruin every twitter user lmfao
@cantgame4now152
Shockwave: "Allow me to write a 42042 page essay debunking your so-called 'argument'. But first let state what is a sound and an unsound argument."
@@cantgame4now152 LMAO imagine someone took every comic issue including Shockwave and made an AI of him that talked to Twitter Users; holy sht
That's horrifying.
And I thought Megatron was evil. Shockwave makes Megatron look like an Autobot.
Shockwave _actually makes Megatron an Autobot._
@@RheaMainzhaven’t got to that part of idw yet, so the entire of mtmte was also shockwave’s doing??
@mak khan Honestly, *everything* in Idw is Shockwave’s fault somehow.
@@animosital1645 true.
Megatron can actually be quite sympathetic at times, Shockwave is usually a near emotionless monster
Don't forget that in the TFA continuity he shoved Blur into a compacter and cubed the poor bot after he got too close to figuring out that shockwave was longarm.
“I know I can’t *catch* you…but I _can_ *trap* you.”
@@CasualNickname hi dude how are you
As a kid I just saw shockwave as another decepticon but after seeing this video and reading the comments section along with rewatching transformers prime....
*He made unicron and Megatron look like black air force 1 kids PRETENDING to be war criminals*
I always did love them “science/research with no empathy or restraint” characters
*insert Bioshock scientist of choice here*
Then I take it that you find tf2 medic funny?
Are you also about that white whistle?
@@YTIIE subarashi
Fabious Bile from Warhammer 40k if he was a decepticon
Satan looks under his bed for shockwave before going to sleep
Suddenly I don’t feel as bad about him sitting alone on cybertron for millions of years
Neither does he.
@@acedelta12, best reply.
@@ADAJ342 hi dude how are you
I still can't get over the reveal of the Senator being Shockwave all along. That was both shocking and genuinly sad.
Shadow Play was easily one of the darkest and most f***ed up concepts ever introduced into Transformers
China does that to dissidents and minorities on a grand scale. Even Jack Ma was one of the victims.
Yeah when I first read the comics/Shadow Play, I can’t lie I did tear up a bit at the panel with the empurata. It was so dark and I genuinely didn’t see it coming. Just thinking about a concept like that even happening in real life gives me chills, and the worse part is that Shockwave doesn’t ever “get fixed” or change back to his old self. He stays a villain even to the the end of the series
It's possible that Shockwave didn't want to change back. It's possible that he viewed Shadowplay as the best thing that ever happened to him.
Edit: I read that Shockwave claimed to have been pulling people's strings since day one and that the Shadowplay did nothing to curb his ambitions, so my point becomes much more possible.
Edit 2: I read that Shockwave felt liberated by the Shadowplay, so my point is totally possible.
Just think, THEY created that monster.
@@screamingbean7509 hi dude how are you
"Set up his own vacation resort in the Caribbean."
That *monster.*
He's doing a tax loophole! What an evil bot.
It’s always funny to know that Megatron was supposed to be the main evil of the TF franchise. But when you look at Shockwave, Megatron is literally an angel. Of course Megatron has done some terrible things, but at least he has some morals, ethics, and most importantly, Empathy.
I remember someone left a comment that pretty much summed him up perfectly, when he’s comic relief, it black humor, but when they make him a threat, it’s gallows horror. It is SO accurate to him. Everything he does is disturbing and dark, even when they make him comic relief
In the idw comics Shockwave was a monster to fight against literally. He was able to defeat the whole dinobot team by experiencing gamer rage for the first time.
He also found a way to travel through time though it got destroyed when he gone crazy,out smart the humans who at the time have been outsmarted autobots,and causew multiple planets to be devastated to mine energon,oh he can also make his own combiner if he wanted to.
He's one of the only singular deceptions (not counting combiners or teams) that actually have a chance of killing Megatron, one of the other being Soundwave, another awesome character
*For the 1st Time in Long Time
Starscream is Also Capable of Killing Megatron, Something Megatron has Noted Multiple Times
I read the one where he fought the dinos, the bot defeated all 5 of them with his bare hand, blaster, and alt mode, then took pictures of their unconscious bodies to remember it by.
A real gamer move, in my opinion.
@@bradleyadams5252 yep when a gamer starts to rage they gain +10 in speed and attack Shockwave is a true gamer at that moment.
I'm 100% sure that shockwave has killed AT LEAST 1 quintillion lifeforms throughout all continuities.
I wouldn't be surprised if actually all versions of shockwave are the same shockwave because he figured out how to travel the multiverse.
@@Metruzanca that is actually a god tier theory it's canon to me now
@@death-nm7hr
I mean, in theory that's already the case for Unicron, he will exist in any form of Transformers media, and he's aware of each universe
@@Metruzanca sideways is that way, so shockwave probably could be as well
@@_underscore_9271 Oh yeah I forgot about him!
I think shockwave may be the most monstrous villain I've ever seen, bravo to the writers for making what was essentially a loyal servant of Megatron into one of the biggest menaces ever seen in the entire medium.
What I learned from this video is that Shockwave needs his own movie, like Joker.
shockwave is the batman who laughs
Shock wave really killed a guy and took over HIS ENTIRE EXISTENCE because he felt like it
What a guy
Shockwave: sees onyx
Also shockwave: "I smell a millenia-long scheme cooking!"
Shockwave, having gone back to the beginning of history and seeing one of the 13: Why not? Who's going to stop me? I could, no, I should!
@@bradleyadams5252 hi dude how are you
@@eadweard2214 hi dude how are you
Shattered glass shock wave is probably the most purist person ever
A bit too pure. Empurita made him hiiiiighly emotionally sensitive iirc
So he is the exact opposite of Regular Shockwave, while our Shockwave has a extreme lack of emotion and Empathy, Shatter Glass Shockwave has a extreme quantity of Emotion and Empathy
I looked him up, and he's described as "a well of empathy who uses his arm cannon as a cane more than a cannon"
@@jurassicsmackdown6359 I wonder if he's older in that continuity, and that's why he uses it as a cane. Or maybe he's just weighed down by his emotions.
Shatter glass shockwave on his way to donate to the local orphanage a bunch of toys for the children😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
also i'm pretty sure it's canon that shockwave is one of, if not the only decepticon that has a genuine chance of beating megatron in 1-on-1 combat, but he's never really given a reason to challenge his leadership due to megatron's plans almost always agreeing with shockwave's logic
In some continuities, Soundwave’s been said to be as strong. When him and Megatron fought in the Prime Universe, it was basically a draw, with Megatron only winning because he managed to draw first blood, and it was implied that had it been to the death, nobody was sure who’d walk away.
@@CasualNickname Damn.
1:20 correction Shockwave in Transformers Prime was actually presumed dead and left on the dead planet.
Correct
Grimlock did rip his arm in FOC.
Shockwave: Why did you leave me behind?
Starscream: (craps his pants then stammers something about them thinking he was dead).
@@vladyvhv9579I find your argument to be…
*logical*
I think the most chilling thing Shockwave ever said had to be when Cliffjumper offered to take the Cortical Psychic Patch in Arcee's place, he responded with " Do not worry. If our subject does not survive the extraction, you will be next. " Shockwave is next level savage fr fr.
You see, Shockwave has his own hell, it is deeper than the deepest parts of hell, he isn't just satan, he is more terrifying and made all the things Unicron did look like a picnic
Damn Shockwave definitely earned a seat on the table of BAF.
Shockwave _is_ the Black Air Force Energy.
Shockwave:"Thanos ain't got 💩 on me!!!"
This dude would play around with any universe youd put him in and not even care
Shockwave to Thanos: "You stopped at only wiping half the universe? *Peasent."* (proceeds to collect every Infinity Stone across the Multiverse and build a mech out of them)
@@mr.knightthedetective7435 Thanos: I was trying to teach a lesson!-
Shockwave: Your lesson is...ILOGICAL. "Proceeds to wipe all organic life in the galaxy, leaving room for a cybertronian empire."
@@Memelord1117
Proceeds to kill all life in general*
Who here thinks Shockwave is more of a Robot Satan than even Unicron himself?
Nah he would have satan on a leash if it was logically possible
@@zeroxblossom5670 Shockwave:I find your theory......logical
@@zeroxblossom5670 I mean, he did end up creating Unicron, soooo...
@@omnibeta1876 Based
@@omnibeta1876really? Damn
"he set up his own vacation resort in the Caribbean"
Never thought he'll go even lower
Meanwhile, *SOUND* wave is out here like 'I'm just vibin' bro frfr'
Because he is superior
@@stormtendo Always will be
"Time to talk about IDW Shockwave". Ah hear comes the real shit. IDW: Turning you childhood into the most horrific stuff you've ever seen. And it's still good too!
I fcking love idw godzilla
I remember reading some of the IDW _My Little Pony_ comics, one of which included a scene where a unicorn straight-up tries to stab someone in the throat with her horn. There's even blood. The same one also featured a pony getting hit with a fireball and thrown through glass.
Glad to hear they're consistently dark across all their series lol
IDW Sonic the Hedgehog had _a zombie apocalypse arc. Written by the man behind Sonic Frontiers' story._
@@keybladeciel3716 I hope said writer sticks around
Thanos: wipes out half of all sentient life to help the other half
Shockwave: condenses all of creation into a singular atom to power his planet and regularly experiments on his species keeping them alive for more torture
And yet, both somehow think they are working for the "greater good".
@@bradleyadams5252 A lot of bad guys say that
@@archonfett Because our society is built against the greater good so we have to demonize those who seek it :)
@@archonfettthe main difference here is he has no feeling or emotion everything he does is on the basis of logic to him his mission is keep cybertron alive by any means and if that includes turning the universe into the size of an atom to power it with near infinite power that would be the “logical” choice no matter the effects it has on others.
Shockwave is why i love the odd villain with no emotion and only follows pure logic
But his idw backstory is amazing
Always thought of shockwave as the actual leader of the decepticons. I felt he allowed Megatron to act as leader, only to use that to his advantage. As though he used Megatron as a pawn in his plans.
no leading would take to much time away from his lab, leave that job to the one with the personality to do it (ever notice when he makes it to the meetings Megatron gives Shockwave his orders first then he then goes "Yes lord Megatron" and leaves, man lives in his lab)
@@archonfett exactly, lead without leading! Well put
@@archonfettnice
@@manborg84 hi dude how are you
@@thesadistor-hl7lw I'm alive and functioning, thanks 4 asking, how bout you?
I think its less to do with evil and more along the lines of "those who cannot feel the warmth of the village with burn it to the ground to experience it" moment. Shockwave was a just senator who, admittedly had some shadiness, was kept in check due to his inherent morality but then Sentinel did that procedure to him and snuffed out his moral core which, amounted to a big ass betrayal, leading to a result that produced the Shockwave we know now.
So it's Sentinel Prime's fault for everything Shockwave does then
This is just a list why I love Shockwave the most.
Destroy the launch pad, let none escape!
@@eternalbliss5189 I hope I HOPE they finally do Shockwave right in the live action movies..
@@RSTBKT I really hope so too
I was born into a family that loved fantasy over sci-fi so I was never exposed to transformers as a kid. I am now very confused as to why Shockwave is not the main villain, and the only explanation I can think of is that he doesn't want to be.
that is correct, commanding the various dysfunctional personalities of the decepticon army would distract from his lab work.
@@danielkorladis7869 Ah, that makes sense
@@danielkorladis7869 hi dude how are you
@@flyin4352 Indeed. He likely views leading the Decepticons himself as illogical.
So many of the universe's problems stems from Shockwave's existence
Shockwave isnt evil, he cant be evil. he is simply *logical*
He is logically evil.
Truthfully, evil requires intent. Without emotion, logic can be mistaken for evil.
@@vladyvhv9579 I second this. Logic and efficiency aren't as good shaded as they seem to be when taken to extremes
@@cantgame4now152Kurt Gödel and Alfred Tarski have basically proven that any attempt to have one closed off truth concept will create unprovability of some statements or contradictions.
It is a logical fact that logic is not enough.
Shockwave would be a very good main antagonist. He’s extremely intelligent, an extremely proficient tactician, and he has no ethics or morality, meaning he has no qualms doing the best tactical option. Honestly he would just make a terrifying main antagonist if written correctly
they could do a solo movie for grimlock and the dinobots and have shockwave as the main villain.
pretty sure the second run of the idw comics did something like that
@@omernavaid4712 hi dude how are you
@@thesadistor-hl7lw im fine buddy
@@omernavaid4712 ok so can I ask you something please
Before this, all I know of the worst things he did was commit unethical torture of Ultra Magnus and possibly other bots, create secret projects even Megatron didn't know, use the corpse of Magnus to detonate a virus, and used harvested Decepticons and Autobots to buff hunself out.
This is like a human first experiencing consciousness THERES SO MUCH LORE
And this video doesn’t even cover everything he’s done. After failing to keep control of the Allspark, one version of Shockwave tainted and tore out his own Spark so that when he died, he’d return to the Allspark and the sheer evil nature of his Spark would *annihilate it,* completely erasing the Sparks of *every Cybertronian who’s ever died.*
I love how careful IDW was with their universe
_casual universal annihilation_
I love how it wasn't even the Rung of the time that caused Megatron's arrest and subsequent bad guy foreshadowing, but the future (otherwise present) Rung accidentally knocking down some bots' drinks while getting a twirly straw for Tailgate-... Dear god... he started it...
I mean they did Optimus dirty but thats about it for example
@@bluerobin2982 dirty I guess but really they just fleshed out both sides, prime makes mistakes and gets chances to redeem himself
@@nerdsoftheherd69 tbh they also did arcee dirty
Shockwave is probably the most scary deception because he's the most realistic depiction of an AI
Also Shockwave, the moment Unicron shows up: “Hypothesis? I-I have NO hypothesis. This is beyond analysis, beyond logic. My vast data grid simply cannot compute.”
Jokes aside, here are my thoughts:
IDW Shockwave has the best backstory, and I love the concept of him being Onyx Prime, but all in all he’s too evil.
Sunbow Shockwave isn’t independent enough.
Regeneration One and Aligned Shockwaves are tied for best. Perfect depictions of logic being neither truly good nor completely evil.
Shockwave is the Aizen of the transformers universe. Hell, maybe of all Western comics!
Shockwave would make most Marvel villains reconsider their actions just on the fact of how evil he is
He the one who should the evil version of Satan not unicron
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 Shockwave making the chaos gods look nice.
@@jonathanathor117 those four should bow down to Shockwave
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 with the powers of facts and logic he dethroned the god emperor.
Shockwave is the embodiment of a walking warcrime but even then most deceptions wear thier sins on thier shoulders
Shockwave doesn’t even do any of these things because he enjoys it, he does them because he can.
He seems like the kinda guy to beat a fellow decepticon to death for making a spelling mistake
He would do that, and then revive them through a bizarre experiment
@@davisdf3064 only in he liked them, needed them. or just needed a genuine pig to see if the process worked
Like me then.
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I wheezed at the fact that he showed up in the MLP universe. Although with the ponies abilities, using them for energy wouldn't be a bad idea. Twisted, but not a bad idea
I can't deny that he would come up with sadistic, yet efficient stuff with unicorn magic alone.
I've made jokes about "my little glue factory" but Shockwave straight up did it
And he showed up in the HP Lovecraft crossover, which I can't believe actually happened. I'm surprised shockwave didn't convince the great old ones to turn him into one so he could cause more chaos.
@@rianmela3825 I'm pretty sure that most eldritch abominations already realize that it just means that they're in as much danger from him at that point because that's just how the random warcrime generator rolls...
As if chadwave gives a shit about the plan being twisted. Bro do not care as long as it’s logically sound
Shockwave sees the Geneva convention more as a suggestion
And a mild one at that!
One he will be choosing to ignore.
More of a checklist of what not to do
More of a Mythology
Shockwave will have a special place in my heart. Such unspeakable acts, but all deprived from logic. He is just great.
Unicron:"I AM UNICROH THE CHAOS BRINGER, TREMBLE BEFORE ME!!"
Shockwave:"Highly illogical."
more like "404, fear not found"
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It's crazy to think that after hearing this and then knowing that galactic man is "a version of Shockwave without empathy or kindness" is absolutely terrifying
Let's not forget that shockwave's machinations are literally responsible for majority of the events in idw
Shockwave is such a successful villain because when he first appeared no one batted an eye but in the comics it was there from day one, I think it worked because he was an underrated character in the G1 Cartoon only given purpose in the comics.
He works because we didn’t know much about him. He was technically a blank slate you could say, But I? I saw an opportunity that was well presented
Shockwave: Pretty much *everything* is his fault.
Edit: He also impersonated a god once. Damn.
Edit 2: The Empurata on IDW Shockwave was out of spite, not a command by Sentinal. B R U T A L I T Y
Edit 3: Wait, he actually became god. Damn.
It's like Pontiff Sulyvahn in Dark Souls 3 Shockwave may not look like a big part of the story but everyone and everything bad that happens is his fault in some way or another.
Shockwave went from being a member of Megatrons lost cause to a huge threat that he even makes Megatron the main villain of the series look like an angry autobot in comparison hell even unicron himself got nothing on this guy that's why he's the best in the entire series
"Ponies into energon"..I never knew I needed to hear those words in that exact order that bad😂😅
megatron be like: bro we just trying to win a war not fucking end our gods existent
I will never forget his line - "why was I left to rust on Cybertron?"
He reminds me a lot like Saddam Hussein’s son Uday Hussein, the guy was so evil that even Saddam had to endure that he never got more power
Sometimes you really wonder how Autobots stand a chance against these Decepticons.
Logic dictates that they do not.
In the end Good always wins!
This dude is like the buu ( from DBZ) of transformers. Originally the underling of the main villian,then he kills the main villians, f's up the entire main cast, tries to destroy the universe, and tried to destroy his verse's version of heaven, just like how shockwave tried destroying the allspark
Except shockwave is actually smart
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i just went down an entire rabbit hole of lore and rewatched the 1986 film just to come back and watch this with more context. i never knew how absolutely dope transformers lore and storylines were outside of the films & TV adaptations
I feel like the more evil thing he did in TFP was to invent the Cortical Psychic Patch. We see it used a few times in the show and when it isn't handled properly...well, a bot's mind is only really big enough for one.
Yeah he really didn’t do anything super evil like the comic version. Probably because it was a kids show
@@arkking552 I mean, Cyberverse seems like more of a 'kids show' than Prime, and Shockwave still seems to have tried some pretty extreme things there. I think if the show had run for longer, or Shockwave had a bigger role, we definitely would have seen some nastier, morally unethical experiments and stuff. He definitely had an aura of terror though.
Comic Shockwave is on his own level.
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The autobots made a big deal about the cortical psychic patch but like putting aside the fact rumging through someone's mind is highly unethical it didn't seem like that bad if done correctly cause Megatron himself had it done to him to get into Starscream's mind
You need to realize that Prime is part of the Aligned Continuity...you know, the one that tortured the Dyno-Bots into becoming the DinoBots...
I looove Shockwave. I stopped reading the IDW stuff years ago but it was good and always liked how Shockwave was always so many steps ahead of everyone else using their fighting for his benefit. To this day I still have the picture of him on the throne made from Seekers, holding Megatrons head, stepping on Primes as my phone background.
Also I really need to get more of the Infestation series. Galvatron using a car (with a family inside) to smash zombies, in order to save other humans was fucking hilarious.
I think the reason Shockwave is such a different character from the other Transformers is because he is the most “computerized” of them all despite them all being robots. Megatron and Optimus are robots and technically synthetic beings but they still have their own priorities and sense of morals, even Megatron has some level of rules to which he lives by. But Shockwave literally has no morals, not in that he neglects them, they just simply aren’t logical to him. He is truly a robot in the sense that he is a cold, unfeeling machine. When you’re dealing with a being who views the entire universe it lives in as simple 1’s or 0’s, with no qualms about acting upon what is deemed as purely logical within its own computational matrix, AND has the means and intelligence to be able to reach any level of power necessary to accomplish those tasks, you’re dealing with something truly unstoppable. Shockwave at his maximum potential is quite literally a Robot God of Logic, and we’re talking logic on a universal scale, where all life is essentially meaningless if it doesn’t serve a logistical purpose. Megatron fears Shockwave for a very good reason.
I think the most ridiculous part isn't that Shockwave went after ponies, but that (as shown in the panel) he said he wanted to use ponies to fuel decepticons, for which he attempted to use a CHEESE GRATER and a WHISK!
The next vid NEEDS to be on Bludgeon. He’s done stuff like mind control Thunderwing to wipe out a civilization, mind controlling Trypticon to go on a rampage across Cybertron, and performing cruel and horrifying experiments on fresh sparks and protoforms, basically on children.
Fun Fact: the Japanese version of Tidal Wave from Transformers Armada was originally named Shockwave and a flashback of his Cybertronian mode shows an alt. mode very similar to his G1 namesake (unlike everything else about Shockwave in this show).
In the DOTM prequel comic, the rising storm Shockwave practicaly soloed the Autobots and even killed all of the Autobots introduced in previous comics and the Arcee triplets and Jolt.
As a low tier Transformers fan, who watched some shows but didnt do a lot of deep diving, Shockwave was always my favorite, his head design was different from a lot of the other decepticons and autobots, amd he was always cool to me, and watching this has only fueled me to get deep into transformers lore, and has madee love shockwave even more
So...you're telling me....that everything Shockwave has done...
Every horrible event that he caused throughout all of Cybertron's history...
*WAS ALL INDIRECTLY BECAUSE OF SENTINEL PRIME BEING A DICK?!* 😡
Wow, there really is no likeable incarnation of Sentinel Prime, is there?
shockwave is so incredibly based, doing what he wants cuz he wants to and coming back with results anyways
Yeah this man NEEDS to be a member of the black Air Force council.
Biggest mistake in cybertronian history was sentinel prime making shockwave go through empurata and shadowplay
3:40 "In the Rainbow Factory
Where your fears and horrors come true
In the Rainbow Factory
Where not a single soul gets through"
Damn it why did I hear Shockwave singing this