A video about the Cybertron games.
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2022
- I will talk about two of some of my favorite games. This was the short version.
Note: I'm not entirely sure about WFC being originally a G1 prequel. I got it from the quote of "it's based in the G1 universe" from one of the game designers here and other times I've heard it referred to as such: ( • Transformers: War for ... . At the very least, I would personally interpret it to mean it was inspired by the cartoon but not meant to be directly in continuity with it. (Idk the Aligned continuity is a mess)
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Hello, cool video, I liked that he fired at the expense of Grimlock and this is told in the Transformers Prime and Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters comics from IDW, which connects Prime and the dilogy. There is also a full walkthrough of FoC on my channel
Where did you get the intro music from?
About the third game, it was rumored to involve the arrival of unicron and to return to cybertron to stop him
Yo bro, PLEASE tell me how you played this???
Hey as a quick question where did you fine those clips of megaton talking about Orion at the beginning
A quote Cullen carried with him while auditioning for Prime back in the 80s was "be strong enough to be gentle.”
From his brother
@@moonwhooper that advice brought him to an iconic creation of transformers
“If you are going to be a leader, be a real leader not a Hollywood leader with the yelling and screaming and pretending to be a tough guy. Be sincere, be honest, be respectful….be strong enough to be gentle.”
@@TransformersGeek14 and then they threw all that out of the window. Thanks, Michael Bay
@@moonwhooper His brother was a Marine.
I crave a double remaster of both… so much
That would be awesome but I think remakes would be better if possible as back in 2010 hasbro wanted to unite there media into one continuity meaning they wanted the cybertron games and the prime cartoon to be in the same universe and technically they are but the prime cartoon team wanted to do there own thing while high moon was willing to play ball with hasbro's idea which I think limited them a bit in terms of the story of FOC which is why I believe now that the plan of one alligned continuity has crumbled I would like the wfc games to be remade with the writers of the games to have no restrictions when it comes to story they want to tell especially foc because I would like to see the game that foc while amazing could have been if high moon did not try to fit there games into a cartoon that was ignoring it and retconing alot which I dont hold anything on against the prime team but the games and the cartoon have to many inconsistencies to be in the same universe so I would like a FOC remake with out the idea of trying to fit it into prime and maybe if the remakes do well we get are eventual 3rd game to continue off foc's cliffhanger it dosen't need to be restricted by the prime cartoon
@@cyberfire7191 I didn't notice many inconsistencies between the games and Prime. It was RID 2015 that ended up being a problem in that regard.
@@ltb1345 trust me you notice it more the further you look into and that's not even covering the extra media and the covenant of primus and I could point out the bigs ones between the games the cartoons in prime megatron gets his first taste of dark energon on earth while in wfc he clearly gets it during the war on cybertron and is able to eject it out of himself to destroy things while in prime it dosent work like that and gives the ability to raise the dead. starscream at the beginning of prime there is no mention of his betrayal in foc and shockwave is damaged and left for scrap due to the incident with cliffjumper and arcee while in foc grimlock was the one responsible. and cliff's story about the sea of rust suggests that the events of foc happened but the way he explains it implies there were more autobots than just him and jazz. And hard shell is killed in fall of cybertron yet makes an appearance in foc and the biology of the insecticons in prime work very differently in foc as in foc the fodder insecticons dont transform only the main 3 do that we know of while all prime insecticons have the ability to transform and are much larger. Foc tied to allign things more with the prime cartoon due to the audio logs but like I said the prime team wanted to do there own thing while on paper they are connected to many inconsistencies and that's not even mentioning the characters Rid grimlock and Sideswipe are never implied as bots sharing names from there WFC game counterparts bumblebee would surely mention something about the original sideswipe, grimlock I can understand why he wouldnt because not all autobots know each other but bumblebee definitely knew sideswipe and they did have some form of friendship seeing the game and theres alot more I could go on. But idk the alligned continuity just doesn't work if you do homework on the lore and history of all the separate forms of media that comprise it honestly I just think it's better that the cybertron games and prime cartoons are better as there own separate things.
well we got NVIDIA RTX remix coming up soon which for games running on dx8 and dx9 will let us quickly and easily rip textures and models, change lighting, and even add in raytracing without even editing files if we want. And I'm pretty sure both games run on dx9, meaning as a community we will be able to remaster the game ourselves lmao
@@cyberfire7191 100% I never liked these games being connected to the Prime and future cartoons. I'm all for shared universes, but if you're not going to share 90% continuity and art style, then you might as well be separate universes.
Like you pointed out, there's way too many inconsistencies. Dark Energon was a myth and Megatron just found it at the start of Prime, where Megatron already discovered it and used it in the Cybertron games; the way Dark Energon works differently between the two series; Megatron forces Trypticon into the Nemesis in the Cybertron games, but in Prime seems to be surprised the Nemesis was a Cybertronian; and many more that I just can't justify the series being connected regardless of what Hasbro says.
I love how they nailed Megatron’s (and everyone’s) personality in this game. He straight up lies in his own records about Optimus accepting primehood, even when it is apparent without a doubt, that Optimus never wanted that. Megatron’s pride is so hurt in that moment, that he lies to himself to feel better.
Also in the prison, he demands Optimus one thing: to leave Cybertron. But when Optimus tries to do just that, Megatron starts shooting at them and yells, that noone leaves without his permission. Just shows how much he is loosing his mind and i love it. I love this game took the characters this seriously.
I honestly feel bad for megatron, he’s just a bot blinded by his own rage and thirst for power
One of my favorite things about FoC is that the change to consistent faction swapping between chapters, ending with a final level where you repeatedly swap between them, feels like it's making a grander statement on what's happening as a result of Megatron's war.
You are literally always making things worse for yourself no matter what.
The war no longer serves its purpose. It's just the Decepticons riding their collective battle high and hoping it will all be worthwhile.
@@JayGoCray I think the dark energon might also be messing with his head
Well, he’s probably a guy who wants to hurt the planet who hurt him so many times. Maybe he wants to do the same to the universe by conquering it too.
@@galaxycamerata Which makes choosing Optimus a rejection of Megatron's ideals of total victory in war; whereas choosing Megatron implies embracing the final, true, attack on his character he'd demanded out of Optimus from the start. Hell, what once felt like a funni ha ha choice meant for us as kids to play with our imaginations becomes a greater question... The final choice in Fall of Cybertron is between a moral victory (Optimus wins, Ark makes it to Earth) or a final victory before long and painful withdrawals (Megatron wins, only to find himself alone on Earth, with the Decepticons becoming a shell of what they were while the Autobots continue to successfully dunk on what had once been a nihilistic drive for "victory against the Primes for all they stood for, and their Orion Pax, too!").
Always found it funny that Bumblebee calls Starscream a yellow-plated coward when Bumblebee is most all yellow
But he ain't a coward
@@jaredgarcia8638 yes
It's a play on "yellow bellied"
He is calling Starscream a racial slur 🤝
@@coolface211 that could be used on him as he is yellow
It's a shame we never got a proper sequel to FOC. Never gonna forgive Activision for how they treated High Moon Studios.
Ummmm you do know that Fall didn't do well and it was Hasbro who wanted Full Moon off the title right? Because it was literally Hasbro who wanted another studio handing the 3rd game.....It doesn't matter how "great" some people thing FOC was, it didn't sell well and it was buggy as all hell.
@@lutherheggs451 Ok smartass you DO inow that the reason High Moon studios didn't do the third one was because they had to make a Deadpool game right? They were pretty much forced by Activision and it were them who made an unexperienced team to make a weird game that mixed the movies with Cybertron.
Try to be more informed before trying to basj a game while acting smug about it
@@lutherheggs451 fall didnt underpreform
That isnt true it infact preformed above expectation
The reason no 3rd game happened because activision overworked high moon seeing they had a good streak they tryed to exploit it so they had HM develop the deapool game wich flopped hard thus that being the end for high moon as a independent game maker
But after Tf Foc was the Tf Prime Series.
@@gentlemanthesavior9601 they meant another game. But in terms of being a story following the events following the game, it doesn't really even fit in properly with the decepticons apparently forgetting about Trypticon and vice versa. They're apart of the same continuity, but only if you squint at it and overlook some details.
I noticed how when optimus and grimlock are chained up in their respective levels, they each take a different approach. Optimus tries to talk and reason with with Megatron, while Grimlock just busts out of his chains.
Fitting because Grimlock and Optimus are often at odds with each other with Grimlock not liking Optimus being soft and merciful and viewing him as weak for it
@@2bdaqueen268 yes that was said in the video
@@moonwhooper and I’m repeating what they said to prove this persons point
@@2bdaqueen268i would’ve liked having dinobots involved more - the the reunion with everyone but dinobots vs combiners at the end would’ve been 10x better but i lovee these games i played both like 30 times as a kid.
2:15:50 You can actually find Sludge's body in the Jazz and Cliffjumper level, Jazz takes his memory core to find out what Grimlock and his team were doing in the Sea of Rust.
yeah i know, i just didn't show it cuz it ruined the pacing of the video
Yeah wish he mentioned that when discussing Sludge's absence cause there was an in game answer and it wouldn't have really messed with the flow of the video
That was truly a sad moment. I wanted to see all the Dinobots present
He actually appears in the follow-up comics
@@chickenmaster0636 how’d they actually explain his survival because he was down that hole when all the explosions occured
The blood curdlin screams of pain and terror
The "pull up pull AAAAAHHHHH"
and the dialogue
"Look at this there's bodies everywhere"
"Focus on the ones we can save soilder"
Felt like something straight out of a war movie as opposed to a transformers game and I love it
It really makes you feel like the autobots are struggling against the cons and paints a dark grim picture of the war
Oh, and did anyone mention the Saving Private Ryan easter egg in the first mission of FOC? An autobot soldier lost an arm and tried to pick it up and put it back in place
@@techarm7351i never even noticed that, thats a great easter egg, part of the reason i love the cybertron games they took the violence from games and movies like call of duty and such and put it into the transformers universe, the part that sticks with me especially is that mission where you get taken to kaon prison
These games really captured what a horrible tragedy the Great War was. You're not just experiencing a civil war, you're witnessing an incredibly ancient and vibrant civilization completely tear itself apart.
the fact that the FOC game was released in the same year as armada 10th anniversary,make it even better
Huh, so that's why Demolisher is in the game?
@@endersage3514 there was also cybertron scattershot
how.
@@bingisboy did you even read the comment ?
@@bilal_MH-907 yes, I am trying to imply that Demolishor and Scattershot are not in FOC because it was Armadas 10th anniversary, but because they were re-used assets from WFC, which came out 2 years prior
I have only recently realized, that if we tweak Zeta Prime's helmet just a bit, it becomes Galvatron's helmet.
@Atomic Beast more ironic, I guess
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Meg's: "Not that he stood a chance against my intelligence!"
Breakdown: "Uh Megatron..."
Meg's: "What?, WHAT?!"
one of my favorite moments in the decepichops campaign and meg's relationship with omega and metroplex Is top humor
“Till all are one.” - Metroplex 😢
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Till all are one
The fact that Optimus earns his title, that the bots named him Optimus, Is so endearing. It shows how great he is and an inspiration: if a clerk could learned to fight and is next to Zeta Prime then every civilian could too. Optimus having a cultured background gave him an advantage over megs with the knowledge of history, customs and culture of many places of the planet. Hope some new iterations take further the approach.
I deeply admire Optimus as a character. He’s the inspirational leader yes, but deeper inside he’s the empathetic protecter. He wants to protect everyone so much to an absurd degree. It takes reminding from his team to give him a clearer goal. He just cares so damn much its infectious.
The dynamic between Optimus, Bumblebee and Knuckles the Echidna works really well during the jail chapter
I thought the voice sounded familiar!
Voice actor joke aside Sideswipe is basically a less uptight Knuckles lol
For once, Travis Willingham plays a character who's less of a tank when it comes to pummeling stuff
All II hear is Boom Knuckles, which makes it even better
the WFC/FOC games were probably one of the best revisions of the franchise after the Unicron/micron triolgy and Dreamwave, animated, especially the unique dark-war vibe and the great cybertronian designs,and I appreciate the fact that idw RID 2012 did used a lot of WFC/FOC designs,plus we got some Unicron triolgy designs in it like Armada demolishor, cybertron scattershot and some other characters like slipstream, barricade,we really need to see the FOC/WFC designs to get the best accurcy in the upcoming WFC/FOC studio series toyline
So a video game adaptation of Exiles and Retribution?
I really hope that with this new toy line then perhaps that means a new game or maybe a remaster of the two games
Don't forget prime cartoon. I know aligned continuity is a mess but damn with IDW and animated it is the best universes Transformers ever created.
@@legomania2427 hmmm hell no.
High moon shouldn't make adaptation any of these aligned BS, instead they should make their own plot for 3rd game, it either could happen on Earth, or game could skip this time and do some "Return to Cybertron" stuff and resurrecting Cybertron or something.
Wasn’t it part of primeverse
I loved the fact that Earth was in the center of FOC, it's shockwave's portal destination, a place he already went to where he found dinosaurs, a prehistoric earth shown to Cliffjumper in the map room, and that glimpse of hope behind that portal, the destination we as players know they will reach, the place where everything will be settled, but they, as characters, don't know about it yet.
Man a sequel could've been so damn good
Think about it though, that sequel is really G1 and everything after
@@techarm7351 of course, but still not a game
Megatron: *DONT GET HIT BY THE TRAIN YOU FOOLS*
also Megatron: *gets obliterated*
4:14 probably the most random thing to focus on, but I love how right after Optimus talks about Megatron's dangerous level of intelligence he has this eloquent monolog where I had to look up one of the words he used because I've never heard it before 😂. Honestly a prime example of how Transformers has expanded my vocabulary, they've always used a robust vocabulary that made me more interested in learning words and set me on the path to become an English teacher
It's in the audio files that was likely cut from early drafts of the story where it was gonna be a bit more narrative driven and character focused. Though some of these are in actual audio logs in the game's final product as collectibles.
With the Studio Series planning on making figures off of one of these games I can finally immortalise my childhood.
While very likely I just want to state it's not been confirmed or suggested that it's the videogame designs while it's very likely and hope it is the game designs theres a tiny chance it refers to the netflix trilogy and I mean tiny chance but I just want everyone to keep there expectations low untill we know for certain so we're not crushed if worse case scenario happens you know? But I'm with you I hope it's the videogame so I can get my hands on physical versions of those designs
Hopefully that'll happen, I always wanted FOC Shockwave and Grimlock.
@@cyberfire7191 There is no way they would make the WFC trilogy designs AGAIN. I would be so mad.
@@cyberfire7191 still it wouldn’t make sense they’d do the WFC Netflix trilogy. The other only option would be the Highmoon games.
@@cyberfire7191 I don’t think it relates to the games as well as there is supposed to be a Transformers animated film coming out in 2024/2025
Just finished the whole vid. Love these 2 games. Something I feel that goes underappreciated is that in the Combaticon levels, you can tell that Onslaught actually cares about his team. He may berate them, but he tells them to brace for impact, gives them orders in a stern but not aggressive way. Like, in WFC, Megatron just doesn't care at all when his troops are dying and he shoots a guy just for disagreeing, but Onslaught makes sure everyone is ok. I just love how close they feel
I know right! Finally a stable combaticons even Swindle is invested in the team! XD
granted I would like to bring up that guy megs shot got up but still
YES! The Combaticons are my favorite Transformers, ESPECIALLY Onslaught! Those levels were amazing and truly showed the skill and effectiveness of just a five-con team!
2:08:11 Everything you said is everything Trypticon must be thinking when Megatron said that. Also, around 2:08:52 - 2:08:56, there’s a great attention to detail to that scene. As Trypticon converts into the Nemesis, you can see his mouth closing, and his optics shutting down. And the scene ponders on that before going to black. It’s like he’s filled with disappointment for not succeeding to defeat the Autobots, but also disgusted that he’s now just a “glorified cargo hauler”. The very words Megatron described the Ark in the last chapter.
I wish I guest starred in this video to talk about how much I love and cherish these games. I had a horrible wrist injury this year, and decided to replay the games 10 years later, and my brother finally saw the two games as I was playing them. He and I had a blast pinpointing the fan-service, the incredible voice acting, the amazing story, and Fall of Cybertron made my brother learn the names of the Combaticons, and he now loves Bruticus more than any other combiner. These video games packed more emotion, depth, history, and story than any video game I have ever played.
I think making Decepticons start of as a oppressed slave cast is a really good concept. Because unlike how this trope is usually used, it’s not meant to make you question who’s in the right here. No,it’s meant to make you even more disgusted by the Decepticons because of how they managed to become this much worse than the people who oppressed them.
"the slaves of today become the tyrants of tomorrow"
It also follows real world patterns. Like the Americo-Liberians and Mamalukes.
@jvbutalid8316 Or the Jews that survived the holocaust went on to create an Apartheid, Racist, Settler Colonial Ethnostate.
@jvbutalid8316 where is that from? Good quote
This is how the blacks and indigenous people in America should've done white people and should in the future
"They're like Ed, Edd, n Eddy" XD that was awesome
Loved hearing how passionate you are about these games, and hearing other people's experiences and memories at the end. That's awesome that a game can have that impact
it's true, honestly that level's one of my favourites just because of the seekers' relationship with each other, like when skywarp calls thundercracker ugly even though they all look the same
"this is the moment Megatron became Heisenberg" is a good quote too
These are nearly flawless interpretations of the Transformers series. Activision should be given capital punishment for what they did to High Moon
I think it's cool how Trypticon and Metroplex kind of mirror each other. While the Decepticons basically force Trypticon into becoming the Nemesis, Metroplex willingly gives his life to power the Arc
1:04:08 a really neat detail is that the healing grenades you can pick up revive ratchet instantly
I love how bumblebees voice actor also plays Ichigo kurusaki from Bleach. Very fitting
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelouch_Lamperouge
was wondering why he sounded familiar 😂
I think there is lot to be said about the Trypticon's forced transformation into the Nemesis paralleled with Metroplex sacrificing himself to power the Ark. It really cements the ideals of both factions. Whereas the Decepticons will force a (likely incredibly painful) transformation onto one of their own as a payment for perceived failure, the Autobots will literally lie down their own lives if it means their allies and friends could survive to live another day. The writers of these games really got the assignment here and deserve all the praise they get.
One thing I noticed a bit through the Autobot campaign section of the video is the decepticons have more triangular and edgey designs while the autobots have more sphereical and round designs
Makes sense. The Decepticons thrived on destruction and death, so they’d harmful in any way possible, including making their bodies so. The Autobots were the opposite, peaceful before the war, so they don’t try to hurt by making themselves un-prick-able to touch.
1:44:00 my god the clip of Ratchet saying "I need assistance" unlocked a memory
I think that that adiou file where starscream talks about the bribing of the deceptions is some of the best characterization for him. He would embarrass and denounce a plan he proposed if it means he would ultimately appear smarter or superior than everyone around. He's such a weasel and I love it
"you got smited asshole" is one the best responses to megatron I've heard in a long time
What a miracle Troy Baker pulled giving Jazz that old Scatman Crothers sound and feel.
I like that you incorporate the audio logs in your analysis they are a hidden gem of lore.
These games were really, more than meets the eye. Regret nothing.
Fall of Cybertron had so many great moments. Like Metroplex smashing Megatron under his gigantic fist, much like how a person would deal with a cockroach
the final battle and the ships being ripped apart while being dragged into the portal still gives me goosebumps
as someone who loves bayverse movies, that finale is more cinematic than any final battle. Optimus was so goddamn hard to beat in that fight while playing as Megs
War For Cybertron has an interesting place for me becasue it was when I learned I needed to prop my laptop up, I kept trying to play the Megatron Level, and my Laptop kept cutting out, eventually I figured out it was overheating and I needed to give it air to cool it down... so I propped it up on stacks of DVD cases,
I also remember Exodus the loose novelization of War; I got it at a train station on the way back from my Mum's beast friend's wedding, and basically read the entire book in one sitting as we were on the train pretty much all day.
Outside of that, like everyone else, I loved these games, they are very much part of my cycle of games that I replay again and again. After the Bayverse tie ins that are all... okay but had something missing, they finally knocked the Armada PS2
They really went in on Troy Baker voicing so many different characters lol, I love it.
Troy baker
The same one who voiced the Jonkler at Man ham origins
@@Man_Aslume he voices Joel aswell
This video is incredible! The length, the editing and the commentary are all excellent. This is a video that truly lives up to the quality of the Cybertron Games.
Thank you!
@@RoadRustle Wait what bout the Dark Spark?
@@SkyReign777 we don't talk about that one
@@SkyReign777 do not mention its presence
1:32:12 That axe is Optimus' axe from War for Cybertron, it probably got permanently damaged in-between games.
I know it's the same axe but I assume Optimus was speaking about Zeta Prime and the axe was just a reminder of WFC in general.
fall of cybertron is a literal masterpiece and is violently underrated and underplayed, i always wished that we got a remaster of it
It makes me upset that these games are kind of forgotten by most. The people who have played it remember these games (especially FOC) for their amazing stories and surprisingly great multiplayers. I hope one day that these games will be remastered, however I sadly believe we’ll never get these incredible games remastered. But I hope an indie developer can capture a similar feeling both in gameplay and just general feeling.
We’ll forever remember The High Moon Studios Transformer Games.
Whoa! What an amazing video❤
The Decepticons are really so much more evil and awful in the video games vs the novels
Yo it’s Emperor Kumquat! I love your videos so much, keep doing your thing
Yo its you
One of the cool part about the Metroplex sequence? You can hear him talking to Optimus as you making your way to his core
Breakdown is even funnier when you realize that this is the same guy that was with knockout in transformers prime, dudes bearings finally dropped and now he’s a beast
On my first playthrough of FOC, the cutscene where Grimlock eats Sharpshot glitched out so I only heard the audio while the screen was just black. Made it seem even more gruesome ngl.
I feel there can be a good balance between a “grounded” Transformers and the more mystical side of the lore as long as one doesn’t overpower the other.
Both wfc and foc are absolutely incredible and my favourite games of all time the fact that they are over 10 years old and that the graphics still hold up to this day is just absolutely amazing i am kinda sad we never got a third instalment and with the fallout with hasbro and activision makes it even more unlikely but I’ll still always love these games you can tell that high moon studios made these games with a lot of love of the franchise put into them (little bit of a personal fact these games were actually the first ever things I bought online for my bday)
the third game was literally Rise of the Dark Spark. 90% of that game was set in the same universe....Hasbro didn't want Full Moon making a third game because the 2nd didn't do well
@@lutherheggs451 but still I would have loved to of seen a game that had taken place after the events of fall of cybertron as the game did technically end on a cliffhanger
I loved Bumblebee's comment "Megatron can take this city, over my twisted, lifeless shell!" in War for Cybertron.
Quite a brave little guy of an Autobot.
I see that Megatron hitting him with the anti-aircraft gun pushed Optimus Prime over the edge, seeing his brave little friend dying
Man, both these games really put you through an adventure, huh?
But seriously, I will forever cherish these games…you’ve really put a lot of thought into everything you’ve said…and I mean everything.
It really goes to show how much of an impact these games have had on the entire Transformers fanbase.
I would kill for a third game if that would be possible…
This video fucking rules, I haven’t actually been able to play the games but I remember watching the “Game-movie” with all the cutscenes and in-game dialogue for WFC and loved it, so yeah, these games and this video bangs. Also I gotta say, I’m really happy that you pointed out the holes and hypocrisy of Megatron and the deception cause, it’s so easy to just side with the deception movement as a fan but I’m glad that you were able to point out and show that the deceptions were pretty squarely in the wrong
Damn! Transformers has always been heartfelt and emotional, considering they are giant alien robots, they are very human and relatable.
Also imagine being on Cybertron during this, it must have been rough
RoadRustle, you are one of the best TF RUclipsrs out there. I just finished watching the video, and it was like I was playing the game with you. I can't express everything I loved about this video, but know that I enjoyed all 3 hours of it. Your commentary is awesome. Thank you for letting me experience a game I've never played before.
Thanks, I really appreciate that.
I like to attribute Optimus' redesign, and added bulk/armor, as something that happens after he gets the Matrix and enough time hadn't past after the core section in War for it to change him.
Man the games had so much depth from the story to it's characters. Imagine what an actual continuation of the games could've been.
And my personal favorite moment out of both games is when Megatron shouts at Omega supreme while saying "do your worst" he sounds like Tony Montana.
I'm glad I sat down and watched this. Boy was it good seeing these games again. I miss them so much, and I never really had the chance to play FoC and only watched countless hours to live vicariously through them. WFC was a very monumental game for me both as a child and now as an adult a decade later, I had sooooo many hours on that game both PS3 version and even the DS versions a few years later. On WFC I replayed that story countless times, and even more time spent on both the multiplayer and my favorite game mode, escalation. I remembered just how much fun I'd have on it, especially on escalation as Shockwave and doing a glitch to fly out the map and go to the png of Cybertron in the distance. I wish I had actually bought FoC on the Xbox One when I had the chance, just to play it. Now. With no real ability to play either, I'm probably going to try to find an Xbox 360 and buy both games no matter the cost.
I thank you for letting me relive my childhood and knowing that there are tons of people who truly care for this series.
Ah yes
The golden age
I seriously want another tf game like this
Biggest reason I personally LOVE these games is that FOC and minecraft were the first two games i ever owned. EVER. The coolest ever. Still play it occasionally lol
This game, and Star wars force unleashed both showed the height of what a game could be. After this graphics became the center of everything, but the graohics in these games were clean..just a little blurry but with so much presence and elements like the lightings, dark energon, lightsabers, space, and fascinating technology, it all made it fit perfectly. I think Transformers Dark of the moon also did similar and had a great game of course with those iconic Bay verse transformer designs.
Sludge was probably in Jazz's mission. Remember that dude Jazz took some memory core from? Yeah, that must've been him.
I literally just finished FOC twice, this time on Steam Deck. Love to see a fellow fan of a favorite game.
Wfc holds a special place in my heart. It was the first game that taught me that i could play video games online against real people. I would spend countless hours playing the multiplayer demo on xbox thill I saved up enough money to get the full game.
I remember renting War for Cybertron way back when and only playing a little bit before stopping. A shame i missed such a great series.
"Are you insane? Ah-uh-I mean, brilliant, Megatron!"
Hearing the backstory of the games makes it feel like a precursor to “The PM’s Daughter” with Megatron and the protests.
Listening to this video reminded me that I wanted to buy the Optimus Prime Lego set while it was still available. Glad I looked, because it was on sale!
I loved the example with Athens and Sparta you put in the video because I'm greek. Nice video
It’s great how this video comes out the same time as the studio series WFC toy leaks
The Steve Blum theory you mentioned is correct, he also voiced barricade and swindle In their respective games
I’m a big fan of Steve Blums work so I pay attention to his work a lot, he played orochimaru, Zabuza, and Ao in the Naruto series
These Games are the best media for Transformers and funny enough it fits with the Original Cartoon.
And I like that it's in this way because it is open ended.
I must confess that I've only played Rise of The Dark Spark since the other two games were not available on the PS4 but this video really makes me want to go out and buy a PS3 just to play them
You can get all three on steam.
No anymore they were delisted
It's such a shame that Hasbro has the video game equivalent of AdHd, they can't keep a publisher for 5 fucking seconds
@@anangryaustralian8518 damn, good thing I still have them
They’re still on some pirating websites
It’s always a great time going through these games again, and this video does these stories justice! Thank you for having me be part of this.
Recently i finished replaying foc after a few years, and it still holds up, felt a lot of nostalgia rush through me when playing the ark level (last level) it was just as awesome as remember it, gonna replay wfc soon.
I'm late to the party, but I always love the genius design behind the dinobots in this game. Not just their actual character design, that's amazing, but how they BECAME Dinobots. Realisitically, it doesn't make sense for transformers to turn into earth creatures, but in FoC, it turns out Shockwave had been studying earth (which we saw in level 4, is still in the age of dinosaurs) and he studied dinosaurs. We learn in room near the end of Grimlock Smash that he was particulary studying the T Rex, Pteradactyl, Triceratops, and Stegosauraus. He says that he wanted to test these creature's biological design on his "Autobot test subjects" which of course, are the captured "Lightning Strike Coalition Force". Grimlock of course being the perfect candidate for the T rex because of his already hulking size and strength.
I just thought that was genius, they kept the dinobots and gave a perfectly logical (get it shockwave) and honestly fascinating reason as to why the Dinobots turn into earth animals. They weren't born like that, shockwave made them into that, and in turn made his own destruction because NO ONE. CONTROLS. GRIMLOCK!
These games were so incredibly cool. You dont have to be a super big Transformers fan, these games can be fun for anyone.
The best Megatron iteration in any universe.
Well, I know how I’m spending my next three hours. I had an urge outta nowhere to pick these games back up in my PS3 recently and they’re still fun. I’d kill for a rerelease
Fall of Cybertron is (in my opinion) one of if not the best video games I have ever played,it’s also a very big reason for why Cliffjumper is my number 1 favorite transformers character,and Bruticus is my favorite combiner.
I sadly haven’t played WFC yet;partly because I somehow hadn’t heard of it until I played FOC for a bit and was looking at its concept art on google images, and I realized it was a sequel.
I gotta say I always come back to this video for the way you did an excellent way of putting together the audio logs at the beginning is superb, and I love the way you've had it told the story and all separate opinions, the visuals you've added are another excellent enhancement to that part, the qaulity the rest of the video is held to is just as good as the part one of the best transformers videos I've ever seen thank you.
I've always loved jazz's voice in g1, its unique. And when I heard it in the game I was very happy
finally, a REALLY long video about two of the best games EVER made
God I love the Cybertron games. Dude you earned a subscriber. I didnt play War for Cybertron but I did play Fall of Cybertron: both of those games were phenomenal. Also, I loved your narration, your takes on each level and the way you told the story of the games. To be honest I didnt know the games had such a deep and intricate story, it was only because of your video that I realized that. I admire how the writers and developers actually made an effort to include a strong, interesting story that had tons of great characters: I seriously cant name a single character that did not fit in. The Cybertron games were amazing and I always wondered why they never gained enough attention: they made a cartoon into a cinematic, breathtaking and visually stunning video game experience that never seemed dull or annoying. And, I really appreciate that you took your time to make this video. I watched the whole thing: I didnt skip anything because it was just that fun and interesting to watch. Not a lot of people cover or talk about this game which makes me sad but when I see guys like you talking about it, it just brings me so much joy. The memories I had playing Fall of Cybertron were unforgettable. I remember the first time that I saw Metroplex: I went crazy. Just the sheer size and the way he smashes his enemies into dust. Oh and the multiplayer was extremely fun, I had a lot of good times there. Oh and by the way I love what you did at the end of the video. Fall of Cybertron brought me so much joy and Im glad that Im not alone. And again, thank you so much for making this video: I truly enjoyed it.
Recently got a new gaming laptop for my bday and been playing on the re energized servers! No matter where we go, Cybertron will be with us!
It would be so cool if we had a game set on completely different worlds like Aquatron and Velocitron
I would really wanna see a beast wars centered game in the style of wfc and foc
@@gojirafan0577 or just a game focused on lesser known transformers, like beachcomber, cosmo, or octain
@@joshfarmer8408 that would also be cool like a transformers game where you play as characters fans haven’t seen in years
I literally went back from school and watched this straight away without no breaks treating like this as my important class presentation
Outstanding video. Easily the best look at the Cybertron games on youtube. Will 100% be coming back to this for a rewatch a few times. The Cybertron games are extremely special to me and I really wish the multiplayer or at least escalation was still avaible to play. (Ik there's mods for the PC and PS3 versions that bring them back but them being back officially would be nice.)
I'm sure others have asked but do you intend to cover Rise of the Dark Spark? As half of that game is technically a midquel taking place between War and Fall? Dark of the Moon the game video would be interesting too since High Moon made that as well. I only ask because your way of talking about/reviewing these games was amazing and I really wanna see this style of video about other Transformers games/media. Keep up the great work king!
What didn't help the WoC/FoC toys was that this was during the era where Hasbro was starting to cut corners to reduce costs. This meant thinner plastic. It made all the figures feel lighter and flimsy
War for cybertron toys were badass mostly but yeah the fall of cybertron ones feel like nothing in the hands compared to even movie 1 toys
Grimlock becoming a dinosaur is usually tied to Shockwave... even in the classic comics, he got that mode because Shockwave had landed on Marvel´s Savage Land (full of dinosaurs hidden place in the South Pole).
Yeah I meant whether or not FOC came up with his dino mode is due to Shockwave's experimentation.
It's safe to say that these two games had the most profound effect on my life and as a person in general. Optimus Prime's words of wisdom molded me into the person I am today. I remember getting War for Cybertron for the PS3 from GameFly and playing it with my brother all the way back in 2010. I remember being saddened that I had to return the game but I promptly begged my parents to buy the full game and I did and it absolutely blew me away. I remember seeing the Humbling River trailer for Fall of Cybertron online and being mesmerized. I eagerly anticipated its launch and in late 2012 I headed to GameStop and picked it up as well as a figure from the game. I hold those 2 memories as some of the greatest experiences of my life and I still play the titles to THIS very day. I emplor anyone who hasn't played these games to PLEASE try them. The gameplay is fun as hell and addicting, the stories are captivating and the music gets your blood pumping.
as someone who adores these games with all my heart. thje bit of spliced together backstory at the start was incredible. i loved listening to it and the rest of the vid. glad to see im not the only one who loves these games
I remember the Jazz and Cliffjumper mission scaring the hell out of me as kid. Specially the cliffjumper section. Avoided the mission like the plague because I didn’t understand stealth mechanics well lol.
I had the pleasure of growing up with these games.
God I'm glad this was a part of my childhood.
I can’t wait to spend the next nearly 3 hours once again getting to reflect on these games, I never get tired of the Cybertron games🙏
Excellent video! It’s a shame there aren’t more video essays about TF content! Nice work!
Thank you!
@@metal_fusion oh yeah big fan of those channels. I just meant it’s a shame we don’t have more video essays about TF content in the typical video essay format like this. Like we have hundreds of video essays discussing the MCU and DCEU etc but only a handful of videos about TF. At least in this style
@@metal_fusion I think this type of video essay is fairly different than those you listed, a big difference is humor, many of them aren’t funny. But here, it’s very clever in its input of dialogue
This version of Megatron is probably one of my favorites. He's like the perfect embodiment of hate and power.
Finally finished this one hell of a video. Easily your greatest yet. You really did the games justice with this video.
Also in terms of which is better, I personally think War is more fun than Fall. Fall had some better mechanics in gameplay, but the co op in War plus the areas felt more fun to play with. But story wise, FOC is definitely superior.