The coolest part of this series was the backstory. Apparently, before Godzilla arrives on the scene, MANY of the other Kaiju terrorized earth and a massive war between humans and monsters raged on.
@@JustinSVA well if they would have made those movies, you would be on here complaining about how they already these once before. The concept was weird but it did it's job by giving us a Godzilla movie or episode or what ever you want to call it.
“Hey, Godzilla fans! Do you like watching monsters beat the crap out of each other?” “Yeah!” “Great! So, do you like watching one or maybe two monsters sitting in place and not doing anything?” “Ummmm...” “GREAT! Here ya go!”
Just a reminder, the director of the movie, just weeks before release of the final film, stated he was not a Godzilla fan and actually preferred to make a series that was more focused on the human characters, he only put Godzilla in it because he was hire by Toho to make a movie with Godzilla.
I always thought of the Godzilla franchise as being mainly about how humans react to world-destroying monsters, so the fact that Godzilla fans expected 3 films’ worth of monster fights just confuses me. Honestly, it sounds like this “non-fan” understands the franchise better than most actual fans.
@@levischorpioen you say that you thought of the godzilla franchise as being mainly about how humans react to world-destroying monsters but then you start to talk about it as if it was a fact while it is just what you thought. It clearly is not a fact because most of the movies are about giant monsters that fight eachother.
I was so excited that we were gonna see mothra, then found out mothra was gone. They promised mechagodzilla, we got mechagodzilla city. Then they said we were going to see super epic Ghidorah vs Godzilla battle. We got Godzilla vs a pink Floyd laser show. I kept expecting to see something cool, but it never happened.
This exemplifies the biggest problem (not the only one, but the most impactful in the reception being so overwhelmingly angry) with it in my opinion: the marketing. Toho went and sold a whole lot of stuff that wasn't going to be in the movie. I think as we get farther away from the release and people come across the movies and watch them back to back they will find more things to appreciate, because there are a lot of interesting stuff in it, a lot of which is untreateded territory for the franchise. There's still plenty to criticize and dislike in it, and it will always be more of a Sci-fi anime than a Godzilla one, but I don't think it's as without value as people who are understandably angry by not getting the stuff the marketing said the movies would deliver see it.
They promised Mechagodzilla, we got Spaceball City. They promised Ghidorah, We got Ramen bois. They promised Mothra, we got nothing but a dream(of a better film lol)
Godzilla Earth 1: tiny humans try to kill a Big Boi plant and then they get bodied by a Bigger Boi Godzilla Earth 2: tiny humans and bug waifus use a city and some turkey mechs to fight the Bigger Boi.... And fail.... Again. Godzilla Earth 3: *MAIN PROTAGONIST CHAN BANGS A BUG WAIFU AND HAS TO STOP A CULT FOM SUMMONING THREE BIG NOODLES THAT ARE TRYING TO KILL BIGGER BOI.... AND THEN HE AND THE SERGEANT FIGHT BIGGER BOI AND DIE!* *the end*
Seriously? The main character dies? REALLY? I might have to go watch the last movie if that happens. I hated that guy so much! He was nothing more than a Captain Ahab stand in trying to kill his Moby Dick and not caring how many others died in the process.
Woah woah oath woah. Easy there. Ghidorah wasnt just 3 noodles. It was a literal pan-dimensional deity with the necks being over 20 kilometers long and being composed entirely of pure energy. He bends the laws of science and physics to his will and has consumed countless planets. While I do agree that more could have been done, this iteration of Ghidorah was meant to be intimidating. And for me, that worked very well.
If Haruo just waited like 20 more minutes before destroying that bead, Godzilla would have been killed, then he could have went and punched Mr. Koolaid Cult Leader in the eye or something. Two birds, one stone.
@@zeroxjac1 nope you are wrong he technically neats no one he just needed the time to infect the world with his power to make his arrival complete its just so happend to be convient that his arrival is way faster with person rage and because haruo is a well rage boy you can do the math yourself
If I could change the script of this movie, it'd probably go something like this: Leaving the opening act in space alone, I would have it so that, upon returning from deep space to the solar system, humanity would begin to colonize the moon. A very interesting strategy one of the officers came up with was setting up a stationary base in space (can't remember if he said the moon, so I will) while taking resources from earth. Honestly, this could've worked. If you're a group of refugees who can survive out in space on a ship for several decades with your only main problems being the lack of food/fuel, room for population growth, and the resources to fix these problems you can probably turn the moon into a thriving home provided you know a place to find said resources-oh hey, earth. Back to the point, the humanoids decide to come back to earth in hopes that godzilla is dead. Upon finding out that this isn't the likely case, they immediately switch to plan b which is to turn the moon into a Mini Earth. Simple process: send a small fleet down to the planet to inspect the lifeforms that've grown since humanity's eviction, find plants which are edible and can synergize with humans the way modern plants do today in the oxygen to carbon dioxide trade, then find the animals that feed on them and can possibly be used as food themselves if not another form of resource. Bring these back for domestication and the building of natural ecosystems on the moon (in the form of dome cities, of course) that could mostly run themselves with a guiding hand. Grow a civilization on the moon and eventually, when your population has regrained some standing, rechallenge godzilla. Simple, ye? Of course, Haru is NOT invited and locked away on the moon with everyone else as the scouting fleet begins to land on earth. However, phillius is discovered-in a place where they did not expect him-and pretty much gives everyone that came a hard time. Catching wind of this, Haru starts another rebellion which actually manages to split moonbase in half with a civil war. This break forces the leaders to negotiate with Haru in order to maintain overall unity of humanity. Of course, it's not difficult convincing the one track character to leave. Haru will go to earth with another fleet to handle Godzilla, in return of being let off and given command of earth's forces. Upon landing on Earth the battle ensues and eventually won. Although, the biggest change is that the people from the fleet that joined Haru consider making themselves not just a separate colony from moonbase, but, an entirely soveriegnt nation that has no wish to be a part of such cowards who lacked the faith they had in Haru. Of course, however, the OG makes his appearance. No explanation needed for how that goes. I would mostly leave the second movie alone...if it weren't for the fact that they blue balled me with the idea of mechagodzilla being apart of the movie. It's not that I don't belive that this version of mechagodzilla could build an entire city out of itself while eating godzilla like material, but it could've at least made a giant version of its original self that could fight its intended target. Speaking of which, that's exactly what I'm suggesting here. After finding out about MechaGodzilla City and what the nanomachines can do both in general and to Godzilla, Haru gets a grand idea along with the bizuls (can't remember their name) to take the carcus of phillius and use it as a base to reconstruct another mechagodzilla. And of course, our protagonist is fused with it along with a small team in order to pilot the mechanical behemoth. Even though this MG is smaller than godzilla, at first, it becomes to the godzilla based environment what godzilla originally was to the human based environment thousands of years ago. Wherever it goes, the nanomachines apart of its body devour the life all around it-growing the main body bigger and stronger. This can give us an even more so interesting perspective: what if we were godzilla? Haru gets a 'little' high off of the power, seeing the creations of his most hated enemy destroyed in ways similar to his people gives him a euphoria that nothing except setting foot on earth and defeating phillius comes close to. In fact, he even comes across more miniature godzilla like monsters which he can now destroy with far greater ease compared to all the planning put in to just down Phillius. Of course, this is where the whole fighting monsters and becoming becoming monsters comea into play. And I for one think that this is a stronger way of showing it than what was given as aside from all the action (which I'm guilty of wanting) it bring up the idea for Haru that maybe being a monster like Godzilla isn't so bad. The battle, of course, takes place back at the city where they give it all they got (imagine the greatest godzilla vs mechagodzilla fight in cgi) and end up in a stalemate. A plan is conceived that Haru should absorb Godzilla with Mechagodzilla but its now that Haru is discovering the machine he's fused with is more beast than in just it's looks. As always, for some reason, MechaGodzilla loses control-this time its argued that Phillius soul might be acting out from beyond the grave. As in the original, the Bizuls decide to upload more people in an attempt to control MG better while sacrificing more and more people to appease the monster that is now the city. Haru breaks free of their control and goes on a rampage while Godzilla is overheating and they both end up destroying the city to stop the Bizuls. Haru, after getting an incredibly horrific view of what it's like to destroy humans as a godzilla, is finally disgusted by the idea of being Godzilla in any form fashionable way, whether to exact revenge or even to stop his former allies from killing all of his friends. He ejects from MG as it is destroyed by OG. Final movie, whew, lots of symbolism-I know. For starters, the main thing is turning that chicken ramen noodle trio into the actual King Ghidorah. It's fine fore it start off the way that it did, but it eventually needs to become the true Golden Kaiju. This is the part where moon is brought back in, only to be destroyed. What's left of humanity's fleet tries to get away but is mostly also destroyed. Visually it'll look as if a giant tentacle monster erupted from the moon to attack earth. Mephis tries to recruit Haru as the sacrice, Haru turns on him, Mephis sacrifices himself with the medallion to become the Avatar of the triple yellow swirly straws and gives rise to King Ghidorah. Now that he has a physical form for Godzilla to fight, they fight. Haru helps Godzilla to fight Ghidorah, hates himself for having to do so. I realize there's not much to this plot change outside of fighting; I'm not apologizing for the improvements, your welcome. Movie ends the way it did so originally, but humanity still has a chance to rebuild spaceships.
@@faustinem9071 Thx for reminding me this existed, going to save it to Google docs or Word. Actually proud of this rant because those movies just got me brainstorming so hard after being disappointed. I enjoyed the Shin Godzilla film so much-as I hated the 2014 Legacy Godzilla-and I was in a state that said "Japan could never not do Godzilla right", so this got me rolling when the philosophy took over.
@@faustinem9071The only thing to be concerned about is the native mothra people. Honestly, I feel their presence throughout the script I have here would be even smaller, but, I suppose they could have importance in the MG City Rampage and Ghidorah Fight. It's been a year since I wrote this and saw the movie with a fresh mindset, so I can't be for certain what purpose I could or did give them (maybe Haru accidently steps on a few and has to live knowing that he ruined their way of life a little-idunno, losing MGC is pretty detrimental if I'm honest). Shame we'll nvr see a Shin Godzilla 2 or the original and even more extreme idea for Shin Godzilla where he grows two heads and splits apart into two separate Godzillas. I'll take what I can get, though, so cheers to the standalone. Good chatting with you.
The ending is about Japan moving on as a new civilization after the bombs dropped in wwii In fact I think many parts of these 3 movies are allegories for the events of wwii. Even the little gojira and big gojira being littleboy and fatman I think Ghidora is meant to represent an actual invasion and how Japan would've been even worse off had that happened rather than the bombs dropping since the bomb (gojira) while leaving them crippled and rethinking life saves them from the invasion.
@@patrickblanchette4337 lol ty. It really changes the movies alot when you look at them through that lens. Like how Godzilla becoming the land around them could represent the western world's influence and how humanity fight it and gojira they continuously get knocked down and how they went dormant for a long time and thats what let the western influence in or how haruo represents the old ways of imperial japanese pride and anger towards the world and that's why he feels the need to die off. It dies this godzilla more to it's wwii roots. The films Also explicitly points to these wwii ties when it shows flashes in the third film of the e=mc2 that Einstein wrote - in Japan Einstein was almost seen as a villain because his research led to nuclear bombs, that's why in Mega man Dr Wily looks like Einstein while Dr Light is based on Edison for example.
Just a little correction, your description of the Hotua villagers was inverted. They're the descendants of humanity that gained bug-like traits over time to survive, thanks to Mothra, hence the the moth antennae. They're not bugs that turned into humans.
@@JustinSVA The twins are also expies of the Mothra priestesses. So of course the Hotua have superpowers. Haruo is kinda like the protagonist of Godzilla versus the mob. A cop who after getting screwed over by the mob and nearly killed. Is saved by the Mothra twins and decides to repay them by siccing Mothra on the mob for revenge. The guy is obsessed with revenge, nearly destroys the world, and ends up living with the bug people to atone. And Its one of the rare works where Godzilla its the only sane man. Essentially taking Mothra's role as the one trying to stop everyone from blowing up the world due to their own stupidity.
Both possibilities are thrown out there by the second movie, but neither is picked as a conclusive answer. Personally I believe they are descendent from humans as well, given the two species can reproduce.
I'm in the minority that actually likes these movies. But this is the part that made me roll me eyes. "Come on, are we really doing this?". Thank god it didn't become a major source of conflict as I feared it would.
You have the movies trying to be all subversive and fancy to the point that they refuse to do monster battles, and then they have characters straight out of every third rate shonen.
They promised: Godzilla ruling the planet with the rest of the monsters We got: Godzilla "rules" with plants and dragons made from him (the latter of which never returns in the later films) They promised: Mothra appearing. We got: ...as a cave painting, a cameo and an egg. They promised: Godzilla fighting a cool (abit stupid-looking) redesign of MechaGodzilla. We got: Godzilla taking a bath in molten metal and being harassed by bug mechs and turrets (no transforming city) They promised: Godzilla vs King Gheidorah We got: The flying spaghetti monster attacking a barely-moving Godzilla They promised: To make a better Godzilla anime We achieved: Success with Singular Point!
I remember being really excited for this trilogy when it was announced Then I watched them. G:POTM: showed that humanity could've fought and won against Godzilla before they left earth if they'd had Haruoe's plan. Then Godzilla Earth rises and that all becomes pointless cause he can wipe out an army with a tail swing and shoot explanet things with his breath. G:COTEOB: Mecha-godzilla city had an interesting concept, and probably the smoothest planning (mostly because it didn't need to plan much), The billasiludo switching from protagonist to another antagonist while fighting Godzilla was a bit annoying. If Haruo had stuck with his 'destroy Godzilla at any cost' mentality they would've won. but he welshed out at the end. G:TPE: I liked Ghidoras interpretation as a next-dimensional being that Godzilla couldn't fight directly immediately. It was new. I didn't like the 'fight' he had with Godzilla though. 98% of it was him biting Godzilla, Godzilla not being able to touch him and the Humans expositing that though they can see Gidorah they can't detect him. Repeat the entire fight until Haruo breaks an eye and Godzilla straight Yeet blasts Gidorah back into his hole. Its was an interesting conceptional battle but it was shown very badly Then Haruo gives up after some bull about Gidorah watching him and Humanity, grabs his comatose ex-girlfriend and goes to Godzilla to die...The end. After all the struggles and battles, he gives up. It was a very depressing ending. Some of the themes were interesting and would've been cool to expand upon. Humanity fights a losing battle because they had no other place to go but win with a sliver of a chance for victory; Is it worth sacrificing your Humanity/ individuality for an assured victory against an overwhelming foe? Cults that summon inter-dimensional noodle dragons that will destroy everything are bad. The first movie was to set up the universe, so I wasn't expecting them to win. They did win against a foe similar to the Godzilla that chased them from earth but then they didn't against the true one. The 2nd had an almost victory, which was wasted because they welshed out at the end. He chose to retain his Humanity/ individuality instead of win at any cost. The third should've been either victory against Godzilla (but had left them with Gidorah) or at least learning to live 'with' the force of nature that was Godzilla earth. I endured the first movie, found the 2nd decent, and did not like the 3rd all that much.
my main problem with this trilogy (besides everything else) is nothing mattered There was no lasting effect. all the main character did was get everyone but like 9 people killed
I do agree with a lot of your points. The anime trilogy is very flawed and I can completely understand why it would leave some people dissatisfied or disappointed. I, for one, think the pacing would have been a lot better if the first film was condensed to the first thirty minutes, while the plot of City comprised the rest of the runtime. A duology, yes, but one that wouldn't feel like a drag in the beginning. Though, there are some points I think you missed. For example, the Bilusaludo didn't exactly decide to just and up become bad guys. In the opening of the Planet of the Monsters, Galu-gu and Metphies are discussing their plans for Earth, in which Metphies asks, "Had your Mechagodzilla worked, who would it have turned its fangs on after Godzilla?" This implies the Bilusaludo always intended to take over earth, but Godzilla happened to be the bigger threat. Working with humanity was a deal of survival and necessity. The fact that Galu-gu doesn't try to refute this adds more weight to the idea that the Bilusaludo always had sinister intentions. So when they discovered Mechagodzilla was not only alive, but had evolved far beyond their expectations, they figured they could kill Godzilla and pick up where they left off. As for Haruo's suicide, I was mixed at first, but there are certain details as to why he took his life. For one, Metphies had been grooming him for the entire trilogy to become the sacrifice needed to permanently summon Ghidorah. Haruo's no stranger to vengeance clouding his mind, and he's easily manipulated by both Metphies and the Bilusaludo. Even with Ghidorah defeated, so long as Haruo lives, there's always the chance he'll return. In order to stop Ghidorah once and for all, Haruo has to remove himself. I do still agree that there are several plots points that either could have been cut entirely or been reworked to have more significance in the plot, like Godzilla possibly destroying the Aratrum, the Bilusaludo's coup, or the fact that Earth could be crawling with Godzillas. For me, I would have liked to have had at least one Bilusaludo character (Belu-be) coming to respect humanity and siding with them against his own kind.
Thanks for the comment, bro! You know, I did fail to bring up that aspect about the Bilusaludo and upon reflection, I really should have brought that up. I think my issue with it is that from one movie to the next, your entire perception of those characters changes without a hint of foreshadowing in the first installment. What I was basically trying to go for is that it feels to me as if that wasn't at all the direction they had in mind when they began working on Plane of the Monsters. It's not even so much that they weren't, because they must have known the direction they were taking it, it's simply that it FEELS direction-less to me. On the second note, I believe I brought that up as something of a "curse" but maybe I got too caught up in the actual ending itself and possibly didn't explain it that well or maybe explained it a bit awkwardly. Nonetheless, I do agree with a lot of the recommendations to fix the trilogy. Cutting a lot of it down, I feel, would have helped the trilogy a lot with several of it's weak aspects. Thanks again for the comment!
In terms of Haruo, it's also the whole, "Letting go of the past" cliche. As he himself said, he was the only one left who "truly hated" Godzilla. Everyone else either wanted to give up and move on or were actually more fascinated by Godzilla than anything, like the doctor, and Haruo also didn't want to "infect" the Hotua with his hatred; they literally had no word for it and were living peacefully alongside Godzilla. He just couldn't let go of said past, hence having Godzilla "burn it all down".
@@JustinSVA I don't blame you for not picking up on that the first time, as it is a single line in the opening, and could have been foreshadowed more in the first movie. Some dialogue between Galu-gu and Belu-be could have better established the Bilusaludo as an enemy who would turn on their allies once they have the means to secure their own dominance. That being said, it was there, just not as pronounced as the filmmakers may have intended it to be. They probably did a better job at making Metphies the more shady character that they neglected to expand upon the Bilusaludo until the second movie.
@@rhenvao2844 I think the thing is more that the Bilusaludo didn't see that as turning on their allies, but as the logical conclusion of their alliance, the whole "unifying intelligence" thing they always talk about.
Its strange how this trilogy sees almost all of humanity wiped out and all I can think is "So is Gen Urobuchi trying to one up his reputation of being a butcher of characters?" Oh well, I enjoyed the Ultraman Netflix Anime at least.
ZeonicL It does top Tomino, despite the efforts of Zeta, Victory, and the 0079 novel trilogy. The name “Kill em All Tomino” doesn’t come out of nowhere.
@Holden You clearly haven't heard of Tomino's other works like Aura Battler Dubine or Space Runaway Ideon. Those series make this trilogy look tame in comparison.
Despite its flaws I really enjoyed this... especially the designs. It avoided to be like any kind of past Godzilla movie and bring a totally different experience and feeling, something truly fresh... I definetly see why many people wouldn't like it for that same reason though. Tastes I guess... what is done is done; glad for who enjoyed it, those who didn't probably would be satisfied by KOTM so no true big deal in the end. The trilogy would probably become niche movies in the future... similar to what already happened with some past Godzilla movies.
Mattia Berti tbh it feels lazy with the designs and monsters,ghidorah is just three noodles,mecha Godzilla looks friggin dumb,and earth Godzilla is just a bootleg monsterverse Godzilla
The ideas are good, a planet-size Godzilla? Nanomachine Mecha-Godzilla? Inter-dimension King Ghidorah whom mere presence is enough to distort time and space continuum? That sounds awesome. Too bad the execution is fucking horrible and we’re left with these 3 pile garages and a 15 mins of insect bug porn
Sonic Xtreme99 the MechaGodzilla design reminds me of Moguera. Which is the upgrade of MechaGodzilla in the Heisei universe. So I’m a fan of its design, despite the bad movies.
@@sean.a.s7234 agreed. The things people dislike about these movies would not be remedied by making them go by faster. Maybe shortening the first half of the first movie and editing it into a dualogy would work, that's the only part that felt super redundant to me. Feels like they underestimated the audience's ability to pick up on the very simple premises that are how horrible life on the ship is, how the Alliance's internal politics work, and what Haruo's plan is, and felt the need to repeat it several times before moving on. They should have used that time to better establish Yuuko, if anything.
That fucking snake scene at 31:10 is hysterical, and exactly what the end of that movie felt like. Ghidorah comin' in like a big dick in a locker room only to get cut off in the bluntest way possible, with a sledgehammer.
I find the way Adam figures out Ghidorah’s weakness to be strange. He suddenly jumps to the conclusion that he comes from another dimension with minimal visual evidence.
because Ghidora can be observed by naked eye but cannot detected or measured by numbers or any mathematical method. make sense because it came out from singularity
I don't care how symbolic your movies are if I don't care about the characters or give me some action to balance it out. And I got none of it. We spent three movies with these characters and they suck.The characters are either bland or forgettable and the action we hardly got any. We got one monster fight and it was lame. King of the monsters can't come any sooner or heck why didn't they just do a straight adaptation to the prequel novels monster apocalypse and project mechagodzilla those would have been way better then mechagodzilla city and the flying spaghetti monster we got. My god those designs are so horrible
Godzilla 1: they fight a 300 m Godzilla! Wait, it's just 50... oh, the real one comes out in the ending... Godzilla 2: there are Mothra and Mechagodzilla! Well... no they aren't... Godzilla 3: this time it's serious, here comes Ghidorah! As an otherdimensional one-way intangible spaghetti monster who just bites Godzilla and lift him somewhat in the air...
Honestly I expected more out of Godzilla’s first dive into Anime. I expected something like Rulers of Earth or that cartoon from the 90s. Here the Anime felt like it was trying so hard to be like Attack on Titan or Evangelion. That it was deeper than it actually was. I Honestly believe this anime did the one thing that I didn’t think possible, or that hasn’t been done in a long time. It ripped out the Franchise’s heart. I know that’s gonna sound silly or ridiculous. But even at this franchises worst with stuff like Godzilla vs Hedorah or Godzilla vs Megagurius, I could still see some amount of passion and care put into it. I didn’t see that at all with the anime trilogy.
I thought the human characters were one dimensional. I feel it could've been better if Toho made a better screenplay. Also I thought it was gonna be 2d but boy was I disappointed. Now I'm looking forward to a better looking Godzilla coming in May 😳😄
Fun thing I noticed. The main character “can’t spell his name” wanted to kill Godzilla because Godzilla killed his parents. But he kills Godzilla’s son thinking it’s Godzilla. Just a connection I found between the two.
If the writers weren't too busy locking Gen the buther in the closet and ignoring him. They probably would have done something with that. Instead of ignoring it.
Levi Everaerts but they could’ve addressed it in the film, using it as a catalyst for a deeper conversation about his anger and how it creates a cycle of pain that never ends. This could tell us a lot more about his character depending on how he reacts, does he question his motives, does he feel sadness for his enemy, or is his hate too strong to even consider that? The point of deeper conversations isn’t just to bring up interesting ideas, it can also tell you more about the characters themselves. That’s something you don’t always get when you just read into something.
15:20 haha, actually, no, they arent bugs, they are the descendents of the humans left behind during the evacuation who evolved to produce a sustance similar to mothras scale dust to protect themselvs form godzilla. this being the result of liveing very close to mothra for a shit tone of time, the influence of the kaiju modified to some extent theyr genetic material. its an interesting concept, just as the earth evolved to adapt to godzilla, the remaining humans evolved to adapt to theyr savior mothra
Planet of the Monsters: Godzilla *exists* City on the Edge: Godzilla fights a city! Planet Eater: Godzilla gets bullied by golden hentai tentacles, and then one shots them once they're corporeal.
I feel like the theme of Godzilla being an actual god incarnate would have fit better. Going deeper into the roots of humanism and the belief that we as a species are above everything else. Godzilla should stand to show how small we are. His size should serve to demonstrate that in the most basic of visual ways. That as long as humans believe that they are the owners of the planet, that they have conquered mother nature herself, Godzilla will exist to put humanity back in its place. Which would lead as to why surrending to something greater was the only way to defeat Godzilla, be it giving up being human and become nanometal or give up individuality and allow Ghidorah to consume us. Earth, Technology or a foreign divinity. Sadly the trilogy never ponders into the deeper themes that it could portray, the themes and ideas were there, but never were they implemented properly into what could have been.
Unpopular opinion but i enjoyed the trilogy. Once I saw the first I knew what I was in for, a philosophical battle and not a monster slaughter. I absolutely loved mechagodzilla, the theme of nature vs humans was amazing. The climax on the mechas (which I loved) was amazing, surrender to either mecha Godzilla or Godzilla was a lose lose and the storytelling that conveyed it was amazing. The third one gave ghidorah a lovecraftian vibe which was a cool take on the character. Overall I just disliked the first entry but when i see the bigger picture I can safely say I enjoyed the trilogy.
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMarioTECHNICALLY MECHAGODZILLA WAS THERE, BUT AS A 50-METER TALL BROKEN ROBOT AND AS A 14-KILOMETER CITY MADE OF AUTOMATED METAL
Monster Apocalypse and Project Mechagodzilla detail the war with the kaiju, starting in 1999. The authors made a point to include almost every Toho kaiju at some point in the story. Wikizilla has two great videos detailing it if you're interested.
A good example of bad world-building and lore in fiction. They should use the Godzilla Anime Trilogy in film and animation lectures as how NOT to make a story. SHOW, DON'T TELL! YOU'RE NOT JUST MAKING A NOVEL SERIES! YOU'RE MAKING AN EXPANDED UNIVERSE, INCLUDING MOVIES (this also applies to TV series, web series, comics, and video games)! Take a look at the MonsterVerse, at least their comics and novels tie in to the movie series and expanded some things!
The sad part is... What's even the interesting message they're pushing? "Those who fight monsters become monsters"? "Technology is dehumanizing"? "Religion is bad"? These aren't super exciting and novel ideas. And the execution makes little attempt to make the message feel relevant and important. That's not to say you can't tell an interesting story with these messages, but they're certainly not worth the sacrifices these movies made everywhere else.
One if the biggest problems if have with the trilogy is Godzilla himself. He doesn’t feel like a living creature and he conveys little emotion throughout. We don’t even get to see him react to the fact that Harou killed off one of his offspring.
even original Godzilla with it's stiff movement still manage to convey more character and emotion, not just as a walking gigantic METAPHOR that is Godzilla earth. Well At least Godzilla earth have cool lazer
Tyler Shewchuk I think that is the point, godzilla is too powerful/big to even care about stuff the little guys do seeing it only as flys pestering him.
“But it’s deep and metaphorical.” -Defenders of this garbage trilogy Nobody f*cking cares, lads. It’s a giant radioactive dinosaur. Nobody watches these movies for deep philosophical context. We watch them to see giant f*cking monsters blow sh*t up, and beat the radioactive snot out of each other. Except for the original film. Which is a movie where the deep philosophical stuff actually works.
Godzilla as a plant/metal monster Mechagodzilla as a city Ghidorah as this strange planet eating snake heads And weak human/alien characters. This was extremely disappointing
There's plenty of things about the anime trilogy which I really like I loved the existential thematic stuff and the overall premise of the anime, and characters like Metphese. I think many of the ideas in here are really cool and original as well as this new take on Godzilla himself. I really like the brave new direction they took this series in. as well as some of the darker elements in it. I like allot of the tone and atmosphere built in the series such as when the original Godzilla finally emerges after Fillius is killed at the end of the 1st episode, as well as the Mothra fairies and the whole tribe of people and this strange interpretation of King Ghidorah. I think the biggest issue aside from the series being lacking in the kaiju action department is honestly people judging it by what they were expecting it will be like and not taking a good look at it for what it is.. I think given time this series could have been great, all the ideas and concepts are there, they just need to be explored further.. in fact I really wanted this series to spend more time exploring more of this strange world, and the creatures within it and more about the native human population and their ties to Mothra, as well as actually bringing in more kaiju and not just teasing them with subtle references here and there. anyway there's my opinion on the series, in short far from perfect but it has so much potential and the did some really interesting things, I think it's honestly very underrated but most of the criticism towards it is fair...
The prequel books actually seem pretty interesting, with basically every Toho kaiju driving the three humanoid species off the planet over a half-century. Not to mention Gigan of all things being the hero monster.
It hurts. But it's all true and I think even die hard fans who are naturally inclined to see positives everywhere made peace with the fact that it's a failed experiment. One time Toho could make the movies as big as they wanted, they took risk instead and unfortunately wasted our time. Maybe because I watched them all at once but it's hard to find anything worthwile. Something to look forward to on the next franchise rewatch. At least All Monsters Attack is one movie.
I’m gonna be honest, the reason that I did actually enjoy these 3 films was because it felt more like psychological movies than action movies. And I’m all up for Godzilla movies taking a new turn. Sure the action scenes weren’t the best, but it’s the story behind them that made it great. Especially in the second film when for Haruo it was choosing to lose his humanity to fulfill his desire (his vengeance), or accepting defeat to stay human. It was more of a psychological warfare which kept me invested in the three films.
It's all because the trilogy's director isn't a kaiju or Godzilla fan. Well on the bright side, we'll get Godzilla: King of the Monsters next month and I'm positive that the Mike's vision of it will be far more faithful to the Godzillla mythos. #MJINNOCENT #ISTANDWITHVIC
I don't know with your claim of 'far more faithful' since iterations are we can say 'faithful' in each era. So entertaining yes, faithful to the mythos, ehhhhh.... That and you know there'll always be artistic license on some aspects.
Leon Ridao Shizuno Kobune is the director of the Godzilla anime trilogy; and Geno Urobuchi is the scriptwriter of Godzilla anime trilogy. Basically, Geno Urobuchi has some kaiju experience, but absolutely no Tokusatsu experience.
When a movie canonically states that the main character had sex with one of Mothra's lineage, you should expect the series to be terrible. Dude basically fucked Mothra.
I think another issue was their marketing. Before Episode 2, they were heavily marketing a new design for Mechagodzilla, a giant living city that's also a monster in its own way, and perhaps at some point in development that's what they intended but that never panned out in release and a lot of fans felt burned by that. In Episode 3 something similar happened with King Ghidorah, where it was heavily implied to be a return of the classic monster of old but yet again, it was unrecognizable and if it wasn't named Ghidorah it could have been named literally anything else and people wouldn't have ascociated it with the classic monster. These were likely attempts to drive up interest, by appealing to fans but it also resulted in many people not seeing what they were expecting. The movies were also bad and poorly made for the reasons you discussed in the video but perhaps the reception would have been slightly better had Toho not attempted to manipulate the fanbase. And for me, while Haruo's suicide was probably meant to be symbolic or something like that, it ruined it for me, because even if somehow with him around Ghidorah might have returned or maybe he was afraid of history repeating itself, I felt that it was still a bad ending. As men can change, and if anything I think it would have been more fitting if he started to lead the people around him, to try and create a utopia or something as if in spite of the past.
That's why the Monsterverse is way better than the entire Godzilla Earth anime trilogy. Honestly even Bryan Cranston's Joe Brody though I was disappointed that he got killed off at the end of First Act of the movie, was way better character than Haruo.
I watch EVERYTHING in its native language with subtitles no matter what and god damn, these were a chore to get through because the characters never shut up.
I think we can all agree in sonething, the last minutes are the best parts of these movies and they needed more time to elaborate the story. A Godzilla Earth series anyone?
These films were terrible. The cg animation was terrible. They did Ghidorah dirty. They did nothing with Mothra and they hyped Mechagodzilla up but did shit with him. The prequel novels were far better and did so much more.
A good example of great 3D animation in anime is the movie Steamboy,and the Godzilland OVAS are way better than the movies,at least in the OVAS Godzilla teaches math
I kind of see this Trilogy as a mixed bag. I just binged it in, more or less, a single sitting, so it's still fresh in my mind. I think that on paper, there is a very unique approach and interpretation of the Godzilla mythos. In concept it reminded me of Titan A.E., Battlestar Galactica, and James Cameron's Avatar. And in each of these cases, the driving forces of conflict are similar. But I think you accurately summed up where it failed; the execution. I wanted this to be good. I discovered from Kaiju size comparison videos that we would be seeing the largest, and potentially most powerful iterations of these monsters ever. Aside from the points you Illustrated, there was something I noticed in my reaction while watching the Trilogy, I began imagining epic scenarios to conclude these conflicts that didn't pay off. Like in the second film, I wanted Mecha Godzilla City to pull off a Metroplex (an Autobot in Transformers that literally Transforms into a city), and transform into a giant classic Mecha Godzilla. I wanted to see Godzilla die at the end of the second film (or die to Gidora) only for Mothra to somehow revive him to vanquish Gidora (predictable I know, but still faithful to these kaiju). And after those failed, I wanted the revival of the Valkyrie to be set up for Mecha Godzilla's rebirth in a future installment (like how Marvel's Ultron revives time and time again through technology). As for the protagonist, I was fine with him being unlikable at the Start. But I so desperately wanted to see him in a kind of Redemption arc. And maybe it could be interesting to watch Godzilla act as his parallel. With both hating the other's kind for the transgressions against them, and then both characters end up accepting and coexisting with the other. Humanity gets a second chance to live with nature and Godzilla accepting that humanity deserves a second chance. But that's just my opinion.
Exactly my thoughts on the main character. By the end of the first movie he got no development so I just got more and more annoyed and cared less about him or his symbolism
@@aaronwright485 Same. And in the 2 years since making my original comment, I completely forgot Godzilla Earth entirely. It took me a moment to revive those memories. Which isn't a good thing for the trilogy. In contrast I still have fond memories of watching the old Godzilla films on VHS with my brother as kids.
I feel like you blew over the ending a bit too quickly. Haruo realizes that war, hate, and greed is what spawned the monsters in the first place. He also recognizes that he is a war monger, full of hate, and he can't change that. This is layered on by the fact that the bug people don't have a word for hate. Realizing that his presense will only serve to corrupt his new family, he decides to do what he can to save them from the monster prophecy. If the monsters are born from hate and greed, he will destroy those that would bring that, which includes himself. He takes the remnants of the nanometal, and his own hateful self, and lets Godzilla destroy it all. The after credits scene shows that his bride has taken this sacrifice to heart. She leads a ritual, where the children offer up tokens representing their fears to an idol, called "The Great Vengeful One"(which resembles one of the Vulture units). By giving up their fears, the children will not grow to hate their fears, as Haruo did. In the end, humanity may have been mostly destroyed, but they managed to do what no others could, they broke the monstrous cycle.
Fun fact: the giant Godzilla who appeared out of the ground is the original Godzilla who kicked out humanity out of the Earth the Godzilla that the humans killed was a different Godzilla who is linked to the first Godzilla
I think the trilogy is hated by a MAJORITY of fans. If they were polarizing it would mean that half the fans loved it and other half hated it. This film is not polarizing, it's mostly hated. Godzilla 98 was more fun and entertaining. The trilogy was 5 hours of dialogue and plot that ultimately built up to nothing.
Another cool viddy Cynical Justin. I enjoyed the trilogy but knew it had problems. Its nice to hear a critical review of the material, and yes it was a slog. I look forward to checking out more of your content. Thx
Every generation has those Godzilla movies that are either outright terrible or are so unique that most really don't care for them. Godzilla's Revenge, Godzilla vs Hedorah, Godzilla 98....and now the Anime Trilogy. They are the oddities of the franchise. We get them every couple of years. I hear this was pitched as a mini-series of 10 episodes or so and that after the success of Shin Godzilla, Toho told the folks pursuing this project to make it a trilogy of feature length films instead....hence the sense of padding and weird pacing. In time, we'll be able to look beyond all of the things this trilogy does wrong....and instead just appreciate some of the things they went for and pulled off. So...we've got these out of the way....and hopefully we won't get any more "missing the mark" Godzilla movies like these for a while.
I agree with all of the points you made. I was so underwhelmed by all 3 movies and just felt disappointed after each one. If there's one good thing I can say about these movies it's that they've set my bar pretty low for a new anime if Godzilla ever get's another shot at it.
Honestly the earth trillogy had so much potantial, but overall it just.. had so many missed oportunities. Godzilla singular point in my opinion (though idk who'd have a different opinion) is better than the earth trillogy.
Agreed and this is coming from someone who hated singular point. Honestly it’s just the execution which killed the Godzilla Earth films. I also don’t like the execution of Singular Point but it was a hellalot better than the GE movies. Personally if GE took a few different directions in plot and writing in the second and third films it could have saved the whole trilogy. Examples being exploring Mechagodzilla, other human evolutions, scrapping any thought of the Ghidorah cult crap, actual good Godzilla scenes, better written characters that don’t talk like Dora the explorer. Those changes alone would bump it up in people’s personal Godzilla movie rankings.
This team didn't know how to use CG animation or anything of visual story telling in general. For a 3 movie production with one of the greatest ip in fiction, these projects reek of amateur.
Things the Godzilla Earth trillogy did RIGHT -Really good concepts for the movie -Good monsters/machines designs (at least for me) -The music -Visual effects (fire, Godzilla back sparks, etc) -The kaijus are pretty much in their ultimate evolutions/forms *--BUG WAIFUS-* Things the Godzilla Earth trillogy did WRONG -Execution -They fucked up with Ghidorah by turning it into Big ol Noodle Boi -Bigger Boi Godzilla doesn't even react to the death of its offspring Big Boi Godzilla Jr (yes I know its not the official name, but let me have this) -The protagonist is not likeble at all -Too many useless plot points -Bad storytelling If there's anything I forgot please comment and I'll put it in the list. Thank you.
Also, the fucked up Mothra. She's just a shadow. And Mechagodzilla is just a city (so the physical version featured in posters, one novel, and various toys is just false advertisement).
They’re polarizing bc some people refuse to dislike anything Godzilla. They try to live in this fairly land by convincing themselves they actually enjoy them and that others just don’t understand the films, & that’s why they don’t like them. While the others are realists and are perfectly fine with calling crap crap when they see it, and have no problem dropping the whole trilogy down to the bottom of the list with Godzilla’s Revenge All Monsters Attack.
Or maybe some people just have different tastes than you. I enjoyed them. But guess what? I enjoyed the other Godzilla movies, too. You can like both. I can acknowledge the faults of both the anime and the regular movies. Your condescending attitude isn't going to win over any anime fans, it's only going to make them tune you out.
@@rhenvao2844 I can't tell if you fall in the category of Godzilla fans that refuse to dislike them bc they have the Godzilla name on them, or if you're one of the types to just convince themselves they like the movies bc they think they're smarter than everyone else, and the other dummies just didn't understand with their dumb brains. There is some overlap there since both are still convincing themselves for 1 dumb reason or another. Maybe you just have terrible taste, for whatever reason. But you're probably more of a wild card type, known as the kid. The kids that are new G-fans, could fit into any of these categories, or all of them at once. They are very likely to have terrible taste, giving far more credit to crap than it deserves, or simply just liking it more bc of how few movies and shows they've seen compared to adults, or just bc they're a positive child, both of which disqualify you from making an informed, unbiased judgment. They do this bc they just became Godzilla fans, and these movies just came out now, unlike all the old poopy Godzilla movies, these are THEIRS. So, it doesn't matter that they suck, these are their Godzilla movies, so they're gonna like them no matter what. These are the ppl like yourself, who will defend these piles of shit with nothing more than "I like them, ppl CAN have different opinions than you. As if that's not enough, these kids can also say crap like this bc they're also in the category that says other people are dumb and just don't get it, but they don't realize that they don't know shit about shit yet. I'm betting you're a kid, cuz it seems you got a bit of all these. You were definitely making excuses there, talking about acknowledging the movies' faults and still enjoy them, convincing yourself. Plus you're talking about anime fans like they're a separate race, and as if anyone would care about winning them over. So yeah you're a kid, your opinion doesn't count bc you haven't lived long enough to gain the wisdom to make judgements that matter. That's why the kids need to go where only other kids make judgements, cuz you all base your opinions off of some group, large or small, other people think for you and you dislike anything that contradicts that group. Anyhow, I fully believe you have convinced yourself into liking these movies, which is fine, like them all you want, but they are not good movies, but some ppl, like kids, don't need movies to be good in order to like them. You'll realize how awful they are when you get older, and then you won't like them anymore. Alright, have a good day!
After watching all three of those films and seeing the ending of the third film, I was like: “So… all the death, everything these characters have done was in vain and humanity will never reclaim the earth. So it was all for nothing? *sigh* What a waste.”
This trilogy, especially with part 2, has soooo much exposition. Normally that's standard and not too much of a problem for a Godzilla movie, but it's so much worse here because of the technobabble and hard to follow jargon.
I hope you mention Monster Apocalypse, the biggest fuck you to the fans, bc it’s basically what we were promised in lead up hype, glossed over in the opening 20 seconds of the first film, and delivered in book form, not yet translated to English.
They didn’t evolve from bugs. In the prequel novel they explain that one of the scientists fused Mothra’s DNA in humans and they would become what is now the Hotua.
I can't believe I saw 3 movies just to see this video, but here I am. I really enjoyed the time I watched the movies, maybe because of my personal life, since I didn’t stop to see a movie for a long time and so I took advantage of this break in the routine, even so, it was one of the few Gozilla films that I didn’t hate humans and well maybe I’m just very simple, because many things said in the film I had barely noticed and the fact that I didn’t have any expectations built should also have helped. At the end of the day I wouldn't say it is a big waste of time, but I would not have high expectations either, it is a trilogy that does not hurt to watch, but it is not a must and even having enjoyed it, I can see that it is a great potential lost. Thank you very much for the video, Hugs from Brazil.
I actually liked it but yeah it has problems and its still worth watching no matter how much people don't like it Ps. I probably like it because I like bug waifus too much and I need more of them
You know what I would like to see instead? An on going hand drawn anime series taking place in Toho's godzilla universe set either in modern times or the "near" future. That fully uses all of Tohos classic characters. Instead of seeing a slow moving stiff CG Godzilla we get some epic hand drawn scenes of Godzilla fighting all his villains along with his allies, season after season complete with some good old classic anime drama. Toho has enough characters in their worlds to make it happen. It could be like a mix between Attack on Titan and Batman the Animated Series with Kaijus (what I mean with the latter one is that it would be exciting to see how they would reintroduce different Toho figures as recurring charaters in a action story driven show that carefully brings all the past incarnations of Godzillas worlds together in epic way that fans would love)
The coolest part of this series was the backstory. Apparently, before Godzilla arrives on the scene, MANY of the other Kaiju terrorized earth and a massive war between humans and monsters raged on.
WHY IN THE HOLY HELL DID WE NOT GET THAT MOVIE?! TOHO... THE HELL, MAN.
Cynical Justin We did get those stories represented...
As tie-in novels.
Gojirawars 03 and those are amazing
Show, Don’t Tell!
@@JustinSVA well if they would have made those movies, you would be on here complaining about how they already these once before. The concept was weird but it did it's job by giving us a Godzilla movie or episode or what ever you want to call it.
“Hey, Godzilla fans! Do you like watching monsters beat the crap out of each other?”
“Yeah!”
“Great! So, do you like watching one or maybe two monsters sitting in place and not doing anything?”
“Ummmm...”
“GREAT! Here ya go!”
Godzilla fans: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Also Godzilla Fans: Monsterverse is way better than these crap!
@@randallrona9618Which is true
@dragonlope4666 Toho meatrider
I think you're describing Dragonball Z 😂
Just a reminder, the director of the movie, just weeks before release of the final film, stated he was not a Godzilla fan and actually preferred to make a series that was more focused on the human characters, he only put Godzilla in it because he was hire by Toho to make a movie with Godzilla.
Oh, no. It's Roland Emmerich all over again.
sounds like Gareth Edwards
I always thought of the Godzilla franchise as being mainly about how humans react to world-destroying monsters, so the fact that Godzilla fans expected 3 films’ worth of monster fights just confuses me. Honestly, it sounds like this “non-fan” understands the franchise better than most actual fans.
Oh god Roland Emmerich again. Bet this guy is also an inept asshole too
@@levischorpioen you say that you thought of the godzilla franchise as being mainly about how humans react to world-destroying monsters but then you start to talk about it as if it was a fact while it is just what you thought. It clearly is not a fact because most of the movies are about giant monsters that fight eachother.
I was so excited that we were gonna see mothra, then found out mothra was gone. They promised mechagodzilla, we got mechagodzilla city. Then they said we were going to see super epic Ghidorah vs Godzilla battle. We got Godzilla vs a pink Floyd laser show.
I kept expecting to see something cool, but it never happened.
This exemplifies the biggest problem (not the only one, but the most impactful in the reception being so overwhelmingly angry) with it in my opinion: the marketing.
Toho went and sold a whole lot of stuff that wasn't going to be in the movie. I think as we get farther away from the release and people come across the movies and watch them back to back they will find more things to appreciate, because there are a lot of interesting stuff in it, a lot of which is untreateded territory for the franchise. There's still plenty to criticize and dislike in it, and it will always be more of a Sci-fi anime than a Godzilla one, but I don't think it's as without value as people who are understandably angry by not getting the stuff the marketing said the movies would deliver see it.
"Godzilla vs a Pink Floyd laser show." Ha! :)
They promised Mechagodzilla, we got Spaceball City. They promised Ghidorah, We got Ramen bois. They promised Mothra, we got nothing but a dream(of a better film lol)
Mechagodzilla is here and possibly a mothra offspring!
@@darkassassin6457 yeah, but it's just a city
Godzilla Earth 1: tiny humans try to kill a Big Boi plant and then they get bodied by a Bigger Boi
Godzilla Earth 2: tiny humans and bug waifus use a city and some turkey mechs to fight the Bigger Boi.... And fail.... Again.
Godzilla Earth 3: *MAIN PROTAGONIST CHAN BANGS A BUG WAIFU AND HAS TO STOP A CULT FOM SUMMONING THREE BIG NOODLES THAT ARE TRYING TO KILL BIGGER BOI.... AND THEN HE AND THE SERGEANT FIGHT BIGGER BOI AND DIE!*
*the end*
Seriously? The main character dies? REALLY? I might have to go watch the last movie if that happens. I hated that guy so much! He was nothing more than a Captain Ahab stand in trying to kill his Moby Dick and not caring how many others died in the process.
This is pretty accurate, especially for the turkey mechs, those things were useless almost the whole time, except for the big kamikaze moment
@The Megaton Menace I think that even Godzilla was mentioned in one point to be part plant
Also Godzilla 3 main protagonists doesn’t wait for noodles to kill bigger boi before banishing noodles.
Patrick Star's Ugly Barnacle story was better.
my main problem was with gidorah...instead of an awesome space dragon we got 3 noodles
Sandro Guzelj more Lovecraftian in nature
But not as great
Hey hey hey three noodles with *mouths*
@@elijahblast7548 yeah sorry how could i forget xD
I honestly wish that Ghidorah killed the other two ships. The Exif and the Goolah ugh are too crazy and evil to be allowed to live.
Woah woah oath woah. Easy there. Ghidorah wasnt just 3 noodles. It was a literal pan-dimensional deity with the necks being over 20 kilometers long and being composed entirely of pure energy. He bends the laws of science and physics to his will and has consumed countless planets. While I do agree that more could have been done, this iteration of Ghidorah was meant to be intimidating. And for me, that worked very well.
They should’ve just brought Giant Condor back as the true main villain
Yeah he's easily the most powerful too!
@Peta Parka SKELETON TURTLE WAS THE TRUE HERO YOU FOOL
So the Giant Condor is now a Skeksis?
B*tch, you need to shut the f**k up!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
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If Haruo just waited like 20 more minutes before destroying that bead, Godzilla would have been killed, then he could have went and punched Mr. Koolaid Cult Leader in the eye or something. Two birds, one stone.
20 more minute would be true ghidorahs arrival ergo earth fucked
@@dragullongblackfang8073 it late but, didnt ghidora needed haruo as a sacrifice to completely bring him to earth?
@@zeroxjac1 nope you are wrong he technically neats no one he just needed the time to infect the world with his power to make his arrival complete its just so happend to be convient that his arrival is way faster with person rage and because haruo is a well rage boy you can do the math yourself
THEN WHO'S PROTECTING THEM AND THE HOTUA FROM ASTEROIDS???
THEN WHO'S PROTECTING THEM AND THE HOTUA FROM ASTEROIDS???
You called out Yuko's jiggle physics.
You, sir, have earned my respect.
The Dapper Critter where?
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario 25:13
Abzu 235 yeah I saw the full video,but thanks
Honestly, WHY, UROBUCHI?
@@abzu235 it's 25:55
Godzilla the animated series 98 was and still is a true animated winner
Yup
I've never seen it, but it does look muuuch better than the 1998 film itself.
@@cookiesontoast9981 It definitely is. Also, it gave the people from the movie actual personality, and made Godzilla actually powerful!
MechaMinilla99 Godzilla in that is actually worthy of the name. Highly recommend checking it out.
Yep.
Also if you want to rewatch it, the complete series is for sale on amazon for $9
If I could change the script of this movie, it'd probably go something like this:
Leaving the opening act in space alone, I would have it so that, upon returning from deep space to the solar system, humanity would begin to colonize the moon. A very interesting strategy one of the officers came up with was setting up a stationary base in space (can't remember if he said the moon, so I will) while taking resources from earth. Honestly, this could've worked. If you're a group of refugees who can survive out in space on a ship for several decades with your only main problems being the lack of food/fuel, room for population growth, and the resources to fix these problems you can probably turn the moon into a thriving home provided you know a place to find said resources-oh hey, earth.
Back to the point, the humanoids decide to come back to earth in hopes that godzilla is dead. Upon finding out that this isn't the likely case, they immediately switch to plan b which is to turn the moon into a Mini Earth. Simple process: send a small fleet down to the planet to inspect the lifeforms that've grown since humanity's eviction, find plants which are edible and can synergize with humans the way modern plants do today in the oxygen to carbon dioxide trade, then find the animals that feed on them and can possibly be used as food themselves if not another form of resource. Bring these back for domestication and the building of natural ecosystems on the moon (in the form of dome cities, of course) that could mostly run themselves with a guiding hand. Grow a civilization on the moon and eventually, when your population has regrained some standing, rechallenge godzilla.
Simple, ye?
Of course, Haru is NOT invited and locked away on the moon with everyone else as the scouting fleet begins to land on earth. However, phillius is discovered-in a place where they did not expect him-and pretty much gives everyone that came a hard time. Catching wind of this, Haru starts another rebellion which actually manages to split moonbase in half with a civil war. This break forces the leaders to negotiate with Haru in order to maintain overall unity of humanity. Of course, it's not difficult convincing the one track character to leave. Haru will go to earth with another fleet to handle Godzilla, in return of being let off and given command of earth's forces.
Upon landing on Earth the battle ensues and eventually won. Although, the biggest change is that the people from the fleet that joined Haru consider making themselves not just a separate colony from moonbase, but, an entirely soveriegnt nation that has no wish to be a part of such cowards who lacked the faith they had in Haru. Of course, however, the OG makes his appearance. No explanation needed for how that goes.
I would mostly leave the second movie alone...if it weren't for the fact that they blue balled me with the idea of mechagodzilla being apart of the movie. It's not that I don't belive that this version of mechagodzilla could build an entire city out of itself while eating godzilla like material, but it could've at least made a giant version of its original self that could fight its intended target. Speaking of which, that's exactly what I'm suggesting here. After finding out about MechaGodzilla City and what the nanomachines can do both in general and to Godzilla, Haru gets a grand idea along with the bizuls (can't remember their name) to take the carcus of phillius and use it as a base to reconstruct another mechagodzilla. And of course, our protagonist is fused with it along with a small team in order to pilot the mechanical behemoth. Even though this MG is smaller than godzilla, at first, it becomes to the godzilla based environment what godzilla originally was to the human based environment thousands of years ago. Wherever it goes, the nanomachines apart of its body devour the life all around it-growing the main body bigger and stronger. This can give us an even more so interesting perspective: what if we were godzilla? Haru gets a 'little' high off of the power, seeing the creations of his most hated enemy destroyed in ways similar to his people gives him a euphoria that nothing except setting foot on earth and defeating phillius comes close to. In fact, he even comes across more miniature godzilla like monsters which he can now destroy with far greater ease compared to all the planning put in to just down Phillius. Of course, this is where the whole fighting monsters and becoming becoming monsters comea into play. And I for one think that this is a stronger way of showing it than what was given as aside from all the action (which I'm guilty of wanting) it bring up the idea for Haru that maybe being a monster like Godzilla isn't so bad.
The battle, of course, takes place back at the city where they give it all they got (imagine the greatest godzilla vs mechagodzilla fight in cgi) and end up in a stalemate. A plan is conceived that Haru should absorb Godzilla with Mechagodzilla but its now that Haru is discovering the machine he's fused with is more beast than in just it's looks. As always, for some reason, MechaGodzilla loses control-this time its argued that Phillius soul might be acting out from beyond the grave. As in the original, the Bizuls decide to upload more people in an attempt to control MG better while sacrificing more and more people to appease the monster that is now the city. Haru breaks free of their control and goes on a rampage while Godzilla is overheating and they both end up destroying the city to stop the Bizuls. Haru, after getting an incredibly horrific view of what it's like to destroy humans as a godzilla, is finally disgusted by the idea of being Godzilla in any form fashionable way, whether to exact revenge or even to stop his former allies from killing all of his friends. He ejects from MG as it is destroyed by OG.
Final movie, whew, lots of symbolism-I know. For starters, the main thing is turning that chicken ramen noodle trio into the actual King Ghidorah. It's fine fore it start off the way that it did, but it eventually needs to become the true Golden Kaiju. This is the part where moon is brought back in, only to be destroyed. What's left of humanity's fleet tries to get away but is mostly also destroyed. Visually it'll look as if a giant tentacle monster erupted from the moon to attack earth. Mephis tries to recruit Haru as the sacrice, Haru turns on him, Mephis sacrifices himself with the medallion to become the Avatar of the triple yellow swirly straws and gives rise to King Ghidorah. Now that he has a physical form for Godzilla to fight, they fight. Haru helps Godzilla to fight Ghidorah, hates himself for having to do so. I realize there's not much to this plot change outside of fighting; I'm not apologizing for the improvements, your welcome. Movie ends the way it did so originally, but humanity still has a chance to rebuild spaceships.
Big Moe damn
@@Jthallford20 gosh darn diddly.
@@faustinem9071 Thx for reminding me this existed, going to save it to Google docs or Word. Actually proud of this rant because those movies just got me brainstorming so hard after being disappointed. I enjoyed the Shin Godzilla film so much-as I hated the 2014 Legacy Godzilla-and I was in a state that said "Japan could never not do Godzilla right", so this got me rolling when the philosophy took over.
@@faustinem9071The only thing to be concerned about is the native mothra people. Honestly, I feel their presence throughout the script I have here would be even smaller, but, I suppose they could have importance in the MG City Rampage and Ghidorah Fight. It's been a year since I wrote this and saw the movie with a fresh mindset, so I can't be for certain what purpose I could or did give them (maybe Haru accidently steps on a few and has to live knowing that he ruined their way of life a little-idunno, losing MGC is pretty detrimental if I'm honest).
Shame we'll nvr see a Shin Godzilla 2 or the original and even more extreme idea for Shin Godzilla where he grows two heads and splits apart into two separate Godzillas. I'll take what I can get, though, so cheers to the standalone.
Good chatting with you.
This sounds like a far more interesting story than what I've heard about the actual trilogy.
The ending is about Japan moving on as a new civilization after the bombs dropped in wwii
In fact I think many parts of these 3 movies are allegories for the events of wwii. Even the little gojira and big gojira being littleboy and fatman
I think Ghidora is meant to represent an actual invasion and how Japan would've been even worse off had that happened rather than the bombs dropping since the bomb (gojira) while leaving them crippled and rethinking life saves them from the invasion.
You just made this trilogy 50% better!
@@patrickblanchette4337 lol ty. It really changes the movies alot when you look at them through that lens. Like how Godzilla becoming the land around them could represent the western world's influence and how humanity fight it and gojira they continuously get knocked down and how they went dormant for a long time and thats what let the western influence in or how haruo represents the old ways of imperial japanese pride and anger towards the world and that's why he feels the need to die off.
It dies this godzilla more to it's wwii roots. The films Also explicitly points to these wwii ties when it shows flashes in the third film of the e=mc2 that Einstein wrote - in Japan Einstein was almost seen as a villain because his research led to nuclear bombs, that's why in Mega man Dr Wily looks like Einstein while Dr Light is based on Edison for example.
Do a noodle is the invasion of japan?How ironic
Haruo in the ending was like : BANZAI!
I think you just accidentally put the events of the scripts into context
When king of the monsters comes out:
*GO GHIDORAH*
*GO GHIDORAH*
*GO GHIDORAH*
*C’MON GHIDORAH*
*GOJIRA*
*GOJIRA*
Just a little correction, your description of the Hotua villagers was inverted. They're the descendants of humanity that gained bug-like traits over time to survive, thanks to Mothra, hence the the moth antennae. They're not bugs that turned into humans.
Oh, man. Really? If that's the case, that's a decent little whoopsies on my part. Thanks for the catch!
@@JustinSVA you should probably make video on how poorly done the relationship between chracters are.
@@JustinSVA The twins are also expies of the Mothra priestesses. So of course the Hotua have superpowers. Haruo is kinda like the protagonist of Godzilla versus the mob. A cop who after getting screwed over by the mob and nearly killed. Is saved by the Mothra twins and decides to repay them by siccing Mothra on the mob for revenge. The guy is obsessed with revenge, nearly destroys the world, and ends up living with the bug people to atone. And Its one of the rare works where Godzilla its the only sane man. Essentially taking Mothra's role as the one trying to stop everyone from blowing up the world due to their own stupidity.
Both possibilities are thrown out there by the second movie, but neither is picked as a conclusive answer. Personally I believe they are descendent from humans as well, given the two species can reproduce.
@@42Caio The books confirm them as human
The only thing I loved about these movies was the style of Godzilla and his powers.
One thing you also forgot to mention was Sargent lady and bug girl were jealous of each other and wanted that sweet protagonist love.
I'm in the minority that actually likes these movies. But this is the part that made me roll me eyes. "Come on, are we really doing this?". Thank god it didn't become a major source of conflict as I feared it would.
@@42Caio you know I didn't think they were overly bad as a whole, but yeah that was a little much on that part.
You have the movies trying to be all subversive and fancy to the point that they refuse to do monster battles, and then they have characters straight out of every third rate shonen.
and right after his first girlfriend dies, him and the bug lady have sex😐that hurt me.
@@yunkozilla8178 isn't she comatose essentially?
They promised: Godzilla ruling the planet with the rest of the monsters
We got: Godzilla "rules" with plants and dragons made from him (the latter of which never returns in the later films)
They promised: Mothra appearing.
We got: ...as a cave painting, a cameo and an egg.
They promised: Godzilla fighting a cool (abit stupid-looking) redesign of MechaGodzilla.
We got: Godzilla taking a bath in molten metal and being harassed by bug mechs and turrets (no transforming city)
They promised: Godzilla vs King Gheidorah
We got: The flying spaghetti monster attacking a barely-moving Godzilla
They promised: To make a better Godzilla anime
We achieved: Success with Singular Point!
I remember being really excited for this trilogy when it was announced
Then I watched them.
G:POTM: showed that humanity could've fought and won against Godzilla before they left earth if they'd had Haruoe's plan. Then Godzilla Earth rises and that all becomes pointless cause he can wipe out an army with a tail swing and shoot explanet things with his breath.
G:COTEOB: Mecha-godzilla city had an interesting concept, and probably the smoothest planning (mostly because it didn't need to plan much), The billasiludo switching from protagonist to another antagonist while fighting Godzilla was a bit annoying. If Haruo had stuck with his 'destroy Godzilla at any cost' mentality they would've won. but he welshed out at the end.
G:TPE: I liked Ghidoras interpretation as a next-dimensional being that Godzilla couldn't fight directly immediately. It was new.
I didn't like the 'fight' he had with Godzilla though. 98% of it was him biting Godzilla, Godzilla not being able to touch him and the Humans expositing that though they can see Gidorah they can't detect him. Repeat the entire fight until Haruo breaks an eye and Godzilla straight Yeet blasts Gidorah back into his hole. Its was an interesting conceptional battle but it was shown very badly
Then Haruo gives up after some bull about Gidorah watching him and Humanity, grabs his comatose ex-girlfriend and goes to Godzilla to die...The end. After all the struggles and battles, he gives up. It was a very depressing ending.
Some of the themes were interesting and would've been cool to expand upon.
Humanity fights a losing battle because they had no other place to go but win with a sliver of a chance for victory;
Is it worth sacrificing your Humanity/ individuality for an assured victory against an overwhelming foe?
Cults that summon inter-dimensional noodle dragons that will destroy everything are bad.
The first movie was to set up the universe, so I wasn't expecting them to win. They did win against a foe similar to the Godzilla that chased them from earth but then they didn't against the true one.
The 2nd had an almost victory, which was wasted because they welshed out at the end. He chose to retain his Humanity/ individuality instead of win at any cost.
The third should've been either victory against Godzilla (but had left them with Gidorah) or at least learning to live 'with' the force of nature that was Godzilla earth.
I endured the first movie, found the 2nd decent, and did not like the 3rd all that much.
my main problem with this trilogy (besides everything else) is nothing mattered There was no lasting effect. all the main character did was get everyone but like 9 people killed
I did some quick math
*only 4 people survived the 40,000 people left of humanity*
@@Harijohn4874 I'm calling it now That's the Biggest fuck up All time because the main character had rage issues
@@sara-name-unavailable Peter Quill in Infinity War?
@@nilge90 i still think this is worse. All the people he got killed didn't come back
My brother and I watched these movies when we were 13. We were bored, but heckled them the whole time which helped make the experience more memorable!
I do agree with a lot of your points. The anime trilogy is very flawed and I can completely understand why it would leave some people dissatisfied or disappointed. I, for one, think the pacing would have been a lot better if the first film was condensed to the first thirty minutes, while the plot of City comprised the rest of the runtime. A duology, yes, but one that wouldn't feel like a drag in the beginning.
Though, there are some points I think you missed. For example, the Bilusaludo didn't exactly decide to just and up become bad guys. In the opening of the Planet of the Monsters, Galu-gu and Metphies are discussing their plans for Earth, in which Metphies asks, "Had your Mechagodzilla worked, who would it have turned its fangs on after Godzilla?" This implies the Bilusaludo always intended to take over earth, but Godzilla happened to be the bigger threat. Working with humanity was a deal of survival and necessity. The fact that Galu-gu doesn't try to refute this adds more weight to the idea that the Bilusaludo always had sinister intentions. So when they discovered Mechagodzilla was not only alive, but had evolved far beyond their expectations, they figured they could kill Godzilla and pick up where they left off.
As for Haruo's suicide, I was mixed at first, but there are certain details as to why he took his life. For one, Metphies had been grooming him for the entire trilogy to become the sacrifice needed to permanently summon Ghidorah. Haruo's no stranger to vengeance clouding his mind, and he's easily manipulated by both Metphies and the Bilusaludo. Even with Ghidorah defeated, so long as Haruo lives, there's always the chance he'll return. In order to stop Ghidorah once and for all, Haruo has to remove himself.
I do still agree that there are several plots points that either could have been cut entirely or been reworked to have more significance in the plot, like Godzilla possibly destroying the Aratrum, the Bilusaludo's coup, or the fact that Earth could be crawling with Godzillas. For me, I would have liked to have had at least one Bilusaludo character (Belu-be) coming to respect humanity and siding with them against his own kind.
Thanks for the comment, bro!
You know, I did fail to bring up that aspect about the Bilusaludo and upon reflection, I really should have brought that up. I think my issue with it is that from one movie to the next, your entire perception of those characters changes without a hint of foreshadowing in the first installment. What I was basically trying to go for is that it feels to me as if that wasn't at all the direction they had in mind when they began working on Plane of the Monsters. It's not even so much that they weren't, because they must have known the direction they were taking it, it's simply that it FEELS direction-less to me.
On the second note, I believe I brought that up as something of a "curse" but maybe I got too caught up in the actual ending itself and possibly didn't explain it that well or maybe explained it a bit awkwardly.
Nonetheless, I do agree with a lot of the recommendations to fix the trilogy. Cutting a lot of it down, I feel, would have helped the trilogy a lot with several of it's weak aspects.
Thanks again for the comment!
In terms of Haruo, it's also the whole, "Letting go of the past" cliche. As he himself said, he was the only one left who "truly hated" Godzilla. Everyone else either wanted to give up and move on or were actually more fascinated by Godzilla than anything, like the doctor, and Haruo also didn't want to "infect" the Hotua with his hatred; they literally had no word for it and were living peacefully alongside Godzilla.
He just couldn't let go of said past, hence having Godzilla "burn it all down".
@@JustinSVA I don't blame you for not picking up on that the first time, as it is a single line in the opening, and could have been foreshadowed more in the first movie. Some dialogue between Galu-gu and Belu-be could have better established the Bilusaludo as an enemy who would turn on their allies once they have the means to secure their own dominance. That being said, it was there, just not as pronounced as the filmmakers may have intended it to be. They probably did a better job at making Metphies the more shady character that they neglected to expand upon the Bilusaludo until the second movie.
@@rhenvao2844 I think the thing is more that the Bilusaludo didn't see that as turning on their allies, but as the logical conclusion of their alliance, the whole "unifying intelligence" thing they always talk about.
Its strange how this trilogy sees almost all of humanity wiped out and all I can think is "So is Gen Urobuchi trying to one up his reputation of being a butcher of characters?"
Oh well, I enjoyed the Ultraman Netflix Anime at least.
Werezilla
“Look at me, I’m Tomino now.”
ZeonicL It does top Tomino, despite the efforts of Zeta, Victory, and the 0079 novel trilogy. The name “Kill em All Tomino” doesn’t come out of nowhere.
@Holden
You clearly haven't heard of Tomino's other works like Aura Battler Dubine or Space Runaway Ideon. Those series make this trilogy look tame in comparison.
Despite its flaws I really enjoyed this... especially the designs.
It avoided to be like any kind of past Godzilla movie and bring a totally different experience and feeling, something truly fresh... I definetly see why many people wouldn't like it for that same reason though.
Tastes I guess... what is done is done; glad for who enjoyed it, those who didn't probably would be satisfied by KOTM so no true big deal in the end.
The trilogy would probably become niche movies in the future... similar to what already happened with some past Godzilla movies.
Mattia Berti tbh it feels lazy with the designs and monsters,ghidorah is just three noodles,mecha Godzilla looks friggin dumb,and earth Godzilla is just a bootleg monsterverse Godzilla
The ideas are good, a planet-size Godzilla? Nanomachine Mecha-Godzilla? Inter-dimension King Ghidorah whom mere presence is enough to distort time and space continuum? That sounds awesome. Too bad the execution is fucking horrible and we’re left with these 3 pile garages and a 15 mins of insect bug porn
Sonic Xtreme99 the MechaGodzilla design reminds me of Moguera. Which is the upgrade of MechaGodzilla in the Heisei universe. So I’m a fan of its design, despite the bad movies.
I agree, i also really enjoyed these movies
They should take all 3 movies, chop em up, and edit it into a single movie. That is the only way to redeem the anime.
that'll only make it worse.
@@sean.a.s7234 lol
Titangoji did that!
@@sean.a.s7234 agreed. The things people dislike about these movies would not be remedied by making them go by faster.
Maybe shortening the first half of the first movie and editing it into a dualogy would work, that's the only part that felt super redundant to me. Feels like they underestimated the audience's ability to pick up on the very simple premises that are how horrible life on the ship is, how the Alliance's internal politics work, and what Haruo's plan is, and felt the need to repeat it several times before moving on. They should have used that time to better establish Yuuko, if anything.
At least Pacific Rim Uprising feels like 3 movies in one.
That fucking snake scene at 31:10 is hysterical, and exactly what the end of that movie felt like. Ghidorah comin' in like a big dick in a locker room only to get cut off in the bluntest way possible, with a sledgehammer.
I still say they should have made the anime based on the prologue and the novel that followed.
It was SUPPOSED to be until budget cuts and executive meddling kicked in
@@CyberXIIIthey coulda made hundreds of millions if they actually did that with a world wide release not just netflix
I find the way Adam figures out Ghidorah’s weakness to be strange. He suddenly jumps to the conclusion that he comes from another dimension with minimal visual evidence.
because Ghidora can be observed by naked eye but cannot detected or measured by numbers or any mathematical method. make sense because it came out from singularity
Coolest thing about this series to me was that take on Ghidorah. It looks really unique.
You spoke my mind exactly from anticipation to disappointment. The entire critique that you gave is exactly what I thought
I don't care how symbolic your movies are if I don't care about the characters or give me some action to balance it out. And I got none of it. We spent three movies with these characters and they suck.The characters are either bland or forgettable and the action we hardly got any. We got one monster fight and it was lame. King of the monsters can't come any sooner or heck why didn't they just do a straight adaptation to the prequel novels monster apocalypse and project mechagodzilla those would have been way better then mechagodzilla city and the flying spaghetti monster we got. My god those designs are so horrible
Godzilla 1: they fight a 300 m Godzilla! Wait, it's just 50... oh, the real one comes out in the ending...
Godzilla 2: there are Mothra and Mechagodzilla! Well... no they aren't...
Godzilla 3: this time it's serious, here comes Ghidorah! As an otherdimensional one-way intangible spaghetti monster who just bites Godzilla and lift him somewhat in the air...
The only good thing to come out of this trilogy was the merchandise (with the exception of the banana Ghidorah Bandai Vinyl)
Honestly I expected more out of Godzilla’s first dive into Anime. I expected something like Rulers of Earth or that cartoon from the 90s. Here the Anime felt like it was trying so hard to be like Attack on Titan or Evangelion. That it was deeper than it actually was. I Honestly believe this anime did the one thing that I didn’t think possible, or that hasn’t been done in a long time. It ripped out the Franchise’s heart. I know that’s gonna sound silly or ridiculous. But even at this franchises worst with stuff like Godzilla vs Hedorah or Godzilla vs Megagurius, I could still see some amount of passion and care put into it. I didn’t see that at all with the anime trilogy.
Zachary Tricoski Well! Did you see the first Godzilla anime adaptation, the Godzillaland OVAs? This: ruclips.net/video/vlc0Cz0ftKM/видео.html
@@whathell6t And don't forget the Chibi Godzilla animated shorts!
To be honest... I only like these films purely for Godzilla Earth
Had much hype for MG too, too bad there's only a head left...
Very well said, sir.
Godzilla 1998 🤝Anime Trilogy
Hiring directors that don't even like Godzilla
I thought the human characters were one dimensional. I feel it could've been better if Toho made a better screenplay. Also I thought it was gonna be 2d but boy was I disappointed. Now I'm looking forward to a better looking Godzilla coming in May 😳😄
The easiest way to explain this trilogy is "Japan just has a really different approach to narrative than the west"
Fun thing I noticed. The main character “can’t spell his name” wanted to kill Godzilla because Godzilla killed his parents. But he kills Godzilla’s son thinking it’s Godzilla. Just a connection I found between the two.
If the writers weren't too busy locking Gen the buther in the closet and ignoring him. They probably would have done something with that.
Instead of ignoring it.
@@brodiecrain13 They did. The juxtaposition is right there. That’s all you have to do, that’s how Fridge Brilliance works.
J Yoneda the main’s character’s name is Haruo Sakaki
Haruo
Levi Everaerts but they could’ve addressed it in the film, using it as a catalyst for a deeper conversation about his anger and how it creates a cycle of pain that never ends. This could tell us a lot more about his character depending on how he reacts, does he question his motives, does he feel sadness for his enemy, or is his hate too strong to even consider that? The point of deeper conversations isn’t just to bring up interesting ideas, it can also tell you more about the characters themselves. That’s something you don’t always get when you just read into something.
15:20 haha, actually, no, they arent bugs, they are the descendents of the humans left behind during the evacuation who evolved to produce a sustance similar to mothras scale dust to protect themselvs form godzilla. this being the result of liveing very close to mothra for a shit tone of time, the influence of the kaiju modified to some extent theyr genetic material. its an interesting concept, just as the earth evolved to adapt to godzilla, the remaining humans evolved to adapt to theyr savior mothra
Planet of the Monsters: Godzilla *exists*
City on the Edge: Godzilla fights a city!
Planet Eater: Godzilla gets bullied by golden hentai tentacles, and then one shots them once they're corporeal.
Haruo just didn’t wanna pay bug waifu child support
I feel like the theme of Godzilla being an actual god incarnate would have fit better. Going deeper into the roots of humanism and the belief that we as a species are above everything else. Godzilla should stand to show how small we are. His size should serve to demonstrate that in the most basic of visual ways. That as long as humans believe that they are the owners of the planet, that they have conquered mother nature herself, Godzilla will exist to put humanity back in its place. Which would lead as to why surrending to something greater was the only way to defeat Godzilla, be it giving up being human and become nanometal or give up individuality and allow Ghidorah to consume us. Earth, Technology or a foreign divinity. Sadly the trilogy never ponders into the deeper themes that it could portray, the themes and ideas were there, but never were they implemented properly into what could have been.
*Hears NeoTokyo
I see you are a man of culture as well.
*Tips hat*
What's NeoTokyo
@@thedust0622 The song Neo Tokyo by Scandroid. Used in this video. Particularly the Dance With the Dead Remix.
Unpopular opinion but i enjoyed the trilogy. Once I saw the first I knew what I was in for, a philosophical battle and not a monster slaughter. I absolutely loved mechagodzilla, the theme of nature vs humans was amazing. The climax on the mechas (which I loved) was amazing, surrender to either mecha Godzilla or Godzilla was a lose lose and the storytelling that conveyed it was amazing. The third one gave ghidorah a lovecraftian vibe which was a cool take on the character. Overall I just disliked the first entry but when i see the bigger picture I can safely say I enjoyed the trilogy.
Oh yeah
Mecha Godzilla was in this film,too bad he wasn’t in there
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMarioTECHNICALLY MECHAGODZILLA WAS THERE, BUT AS A 50-METER TALL BROKEN ROBOT AND AS A 14-KILOMETER CITY MADE OF AUTOMATED METAL
Yeah, even Broly's 3D CGI was later drawn over by hand to make it as fluid, from 2D to 3D and back again, as possible.
The stuff in the novels should have been the trilogy.
Maks Steward EXACTLY!
Monster Apocalypse and Project Mechagodzilla detail the war with the kaiju, starting in 1999. The authors made a point to include almost every Toho kaiju at some point in the story. Wikizilla has two great videos detailing it if you're interested.
A good example of bad world-building and lore in fiction. They should use the Godzilla Anime Trilogy in film and animation lectures as how NOT to make a story. SHOW, DON'T TELL! YOU'RE NOT JUST MAKING A NOVEL SERIES! YOU'RE MAKING AN EXPANDED UNIVERSE, INCLUDING MOVIES (this also applies to TV series, web series, comics, and video games)! Take a look at the MonsterVerse, at least their comics and novels tie in to the movie series and expanded some things!
sounds like the good ol’ case of someone being more concerned or focused with pushing a message rather than telling a good story
The sad part is... What's even the interesting message they're pushing? "Those who fight monsters become monsters"? "Technology is dehumanizing"? "Religion is bad"? These aren't super exciting and novel ideas. And the execution makes little attempt to make the message feel relevant and important.
That's not to say you can't tell an interesting story with these messages, but they're certainly not worth the sacrifices these movies made everywhere else.
Fuck the message these are monsters movies we wanna see monsters fight.
One if the biggest problems if have with the trilogy is Godzilla himself. He doesn’t feel like a living creature and he conveys little emotion throughout. We don’t even get to see him react to the fact that Harou killed off one of his offspring.
Tyler Shewchuk Well we don’t really get to see him do ANYTHING at all!
even original Godzilla with it's stiff movement still manage to convey more character and emotion, not just as a walking gigantic METAPHOR that is Godzilla earth. Well At least Godzilla earth have cool lazer
Tyler Shewchuk I think that is the point, godzilla is too powerful/big to even care about stuff the little guys do seeing it only as flys pestering him.
Blorbo The Idiot It is a shame if that’s the case. It would have great story potential with Godzilla directing hunting them down as revenge.
“But it’s deep and metaphorical.”
-Defenders of this garbage trilogy
Nobody f*cking cares, lads. It’s a giant radioactive dinosaur. Nobody watches these movies for deep philosophical context. We watch them to see giant f*cking monsters blow sh*t up, and beat the radioactive snot out of each other.
Except for the original film. Which is a movie where the deep philosophical stuff actually works.
One day I’ll come across a RUclips reviewer that will never apologize for their own opinions on something...one day.
You should check out Mauler or E;R then; they are unapologetic in their opinions.
Godzilla as a plant/metal monster
Mechagodzilla as a city
Ghidorah as this strange planet eating snake heads
And weak human/alien characters.
This was extremely disappointing
There's plenty of things about the anime trilogy which I really like
I loved the existential thematic stuff and the overall premise of the anime, and characters like Metphese.
I think many of the ideas in here are really cool and original as well as this new take on Godzilla himself. I really like the brave new direction they took this series in. as well as some of the darker elements in it. I like allot of the tone and atmosphere built in the series such as when the original Godzilla finally emerges after Fillius is killed at the end of the 1st episode, as well as the Mothra fairies and the whole tribe of people and this strange interpretation of King Ghidorah.
I think the biggest issue aside from the series being lacking in the kaiju action department is honestly people judging it by what they were expecting it will be like and not taking a good look at it for what it is..
I think given time this series could have been great, all the ideas and concepts are there, they just need to be explored further.. in fact I really wanted this series to spend more time exploring more of this strange world, and the creatures within it and more about the native human population and their ties to Mothra, as well as actually bringing in more kaiju and not just teasing them with subtle references here and there.
anyway there's my opinion on the series, in short far from perfect but it has so much potential and the did some really interesting things, I think it's honestly very underrated but most of the criticism towards it is fair...
The prequel books actually seem pretty interesting, with basically every Toho kaiju driving the three humanoid species off the planet over a half-century. Not to mention Gigan of all things being the hero monster.
Gigan: "YOU GUYS!"
@@nicholaslienandjaja1815man of culture
I honestly like the focus on substance for once. It kinda disappoints me that all Godzilla fans want is "big lizard make building go boom"
I was really pissed that none of us got to see mechagodzilla in city on the edge of battle.
It hurts. But it's all true and I think even die hard fans who are naturally inclined to see positives everywhere made peace with the fact that it's a failed experiment. One time Toho could make the movies as big as they wanted, they took risk instead and unfortunately wasted our time. Maybe because I watched them all at once but it's hard to find anything worthwile. Something to look forward to on the next franchise rewatch. At least All Monsters Attack is one movie.
I’m gonna be honest, the reason that I did actually enjoy these 3 films was because it felt more like psychological movies than action movies. And I’m all up for Godzilla movies taking a new turn. Sure the action scenes weren’t the best, but it’s the story behind them that made it great. Especially in the second film when for Haruo it was choosing to lose his humanity to fulfill his desire (his vengeance), or accepting defeat to stay human. It was more of a psychological warfare which kept me invested in the three films.
Though the movies are also very hypocritical
It's all because the trilogy's director isn't a kaiju or Godzilla fan.
Well on the bright side, we'll get Godzilla: King of the Monsters next month and I'm positive that the Mike's vision of it will be far more faithful to the Godzillla mythos.
#MJINNOCENT
#ISTANDWITHVIC
I don't know with your claim of 'far more faithful' since iterations are we can say 'faithful' in each era. So entertaining yes, faithful to the mythos, ehhhhh....
That and you know there'll always be artistic license on some aspects.
@@leonridao1618 hey don't be such a pessimist.
Leon Ridao Shizuno Kobune is the director of the Godzilla anime trilogy; and Geno Urobuchi is the scriptwriter of Godzilla anime trilogy. Basically, Geno Urobuchi has some kaiju experience, but absolutely no Tokusatsu experience.
@@whathell6t what exactly is Tokusatsu?
@@HolyCross9 Japanese media focused on special effects and spectacle. Power Rangers, Ultraman, Gamera, Godzilla, Kamen Rider, etc.
When a movie canonically states that the main character had sex with one of Mothra's lineage, you should expect the series to be terrible.
Dude basically fucked Mothra.
Liked your video and I really enjoyed the anime movies and the direction they took the monsters.
I think another issue was their marketing. Before Episode 2, they were heavily marketing a new design for Mechagodzilla, a giant living city that's also a monster in its own way, and perhaps at some point in development that's what they intended but that never panned out in release and a lot of fans felt burned by that. In Episode 3 something similar happened with King Ghidorah, where it was heavily implied to be a return of the classic monster of old but yet again, it was unrecognizable and if it wasn't named Ghidorah it could have been named literally anything else and people wouldn't have ascociated it with the classic monster. These were likely attempts to drive up interest, by appealing to fans but it also resulted in many people not seeing what they were expecting.
The movies were also bad and poorly made for the reasons you discussed in the video but perhaps the reception would have been slightly better had Toho not attempted to manipulate the fanbase. And for me, while Haruo's suicide was probably meant to be symbolic or something like that, it ruined it for me, because even if somehow with him around Ghidorah might have returned or maybe he was afraid of history repeating itself, I felt that it was still a bad ending. As men can change, and if anything I think it would have been more fitting if he started to lead the people around him, to try and create a utopia or something as if in spite of the past.
Praise it, brother! Great comment!
I feel like the trilogy could've been a banger TV show
I don't know why but now i want to see a fusion of Godzilla and Will Smith
Denied! *Skreeeeonk!*
He will slap the sh1t out of Ghidorah!
Get It?
Been waiting for this
The first one was very good, the 2nd and finally was lackluster. The premise was good but the execution was indeed boring.
That's why the Monsterverse is way better than the entire Godzilla Earth anime trilogy.
Honestly even Bryan Cranston's Joe Brody though I was disappointed that he got killed off at the end of First Act of the movie, was way better character than Haruo.
Let's all just admit that Haruo was the real villain in this trilogy. Threw away plenty of perfectly good opportunities to kill Godzilla.
BLAME THE BILUSALUDO AND THE EXIF
I watch EVERYTHING in its native language with subtitles no matter what and god damn, these were a chore to get through because the characters never shut up.
I think we can all agree in sonething, the last minutes are the best parts of these movies and they needed more time to elaborate the story. A Godzilla Earth series anyone?
Funny thing that Godzilla: The Animated Series is more Anime than Godzilla Earth anime trilogy.
I left the movie during the montage, so when you said he ran for Godzilla I just broke into laughter.
These films were terrible. The cg animation was terrible. They did Ghidorah dirty. They did nothing with Mothra and they hyped Mechagodzilla up but did shit with him. The prequel novels were far better and did so much more.
A good example of great 3D animation in anime is the movie Steamboy,and the Godzilland OVAS are way better than the movies,at least in the OVAS Godzilla teaches math
And in Godzilland, Godzilla also teaches hiragana. And he's got a girlfriend called Gojirin/Godzilly.
I kind of see this Trilogy as a mixed bag. I just binged it in, more or less, a single sitting, so it's still fresh in my mind. I think that on paper, there is a very unique approach and interpretation of the Godzilla mythos. In concept it reminded me of Titan A.E., Battlestar Galactica, and James Cameron's Avatar. And in each of these cases, the driving forces of conflict are similar.
But I think you accurately summed up where it failed; the execution. I wanted this to be good. I discovered from Kaiju size comparison videos that we would be seeing the largest, and potentially most powerful iterations of these monsters ever.
Aside from the points you Illustrated, there was something I noticed in my reaction while watching the Trilogy, I began imagining epic scenarios to conclude these conflicts that didn't pay off. Like in the second film, I wanted Mecha Godzilla City to pull off a Metroplex (an Autobot in Transformers that literally Transforms into a city), and transform into a giant classic Mecha Godzilla. I wanted to see Godzilla die at the end of the second film (or die to Gidora) only for Mothra to somehow revive him to vanquish Gidora (predictable I know, but still faithful to these kaiju). And after those failed, I wanted the revival of the Valkyrie to be set up for Mecha Godzilla's rebirth in a future installment (like how Marvel's Ultron revives time and time again through technology).
As for the protagonist, I was fine with him being unlikable at the Start. But I so desperately wanted to see him in a kind of Redemption arc. And maybe it could be interesting to watch Godzilla act as his parallel. With both hating the other's kind for the transgressions against them, and then both characters end up accepting and coexisting with the other. Humanity gets a second chance to live with nature and Godzilla accepting that humanity deserves a second chance. But that's just my opinion.
Exactly my thoughts on the main character. By the end of the first movie he got no development so I just got more and more annoyed and cared less about him or his symbolism
@@aaronwright485 Same. And in the 2 years since making my original comment, I completely forgot Godzilla Earth entirely. It took me a moment to revive those memories.
Which isn't a good thing for the trilogy.
In contrast I still have fond memories of watching the old Godzilla films on VHS with my brother as kids.
I feel like you blew over the ending a bit too quickly. Haruo realizes that war, hate, and greed is what spawned the monsters in the first place. He also recognizes that he is a war monger, full of hate, and he can't change that. This is layered on by the fact that the bug people don't have a word for hate.
Realizing that his presense will only serve to corrupt his new family, he decides to do what he can to save them from the monster prophecy. If the monsters are born from hate and greed, he will destroy those that would bring that, which includes himself. He takes the remnants of the nanometal, and his own hateful self, and lets Godzilla destroy it all.
The after credits scene shows that his bride has taken this sacrifice to heart. She leads a ritual, where the children offer up tokens representing their fears to an idol, called "The Great Vengeful One"(which resembles one of the Vulture units). By giving up their fears, the children will not grow to hate their fears, as Haruo did.
In the end, humanity may have been mostly destroyed, but they managed to do what no others could, they broke the monstrous cycle.
DragonHeart 12 you’re into this too deeply
Fun fact: the giant Godzilla who appeared out of the ground is the original Godzilla who kicked out humanity out of the Earth the Godzilla that the humans killed was a different Godzilla who is linked to the first Godzilla
I would of been more interested in a film that had the actual backstories or a TV show anime instead.
I think the trilogy is hated by a MAJORITY of fans. If they were polarizing it would mean that half the fans loved it and other half hated it. This film is not polarizing, it's mostly hated. Godzilla 98 was more fun and entertaining. The trilogy was 5 hours of dialogue and plot that ultimately built up to nothing.
29:46 I wanted to wash my eyes whit soap
Good shit man you can really blow up the care you gave into this video is more than they do in movies
I'm gonna be honest,
Godzilla Earth (and the novels) and the Soundtrack were the only good parts of the series
Another cool viddy Cynical Justin. I enjoyed the trilogy but knew it had problems. Its nice to hear a critical review of the material, and yes it was a slog. I look forward to checking out more of your content. Thx
Every generation has those Godzilla movies that are either outright terrible or are so unique that most really don't care for them. Godzilla's Revenge, Godzilla vs Hedorah, Godzilla 98....and now the Anime Trilogy. They are the oddities of the franchise. We get them every couple of years.
I hear this was pitched as a mini-series of 10 episodes or so and that after the success of Shin Godzilla, Toho told the folks pursuing this project to make it a trilogy of feature length films instead....hence the sense of padding and weird pacing.
In time, we'll be able to look beyond all of the things this trilogy does wrong....and instead just appreciate some of the things they went for and pulled off.
So...we've got these out of the way....and hopefully we won't get any more "missing the mark" Godzilla movies like these for a while.
Thank you for saving me a lot of boring watch time, appreciate it.
I agree with all of the points you made. I was so underwhelmed by all 3 movies and just felt disappointed after each one. If there's one good thing I can say about these movies it's that they've set my bar pretty low for a new anime if Godzilla ever get's another shot at it.
Honestly the earth trillogy had so much potantial, but overall it just.. had so many missed oportunities. Godzilla singular point in my opinion (though idk who'd have a different opinion) is better than the earth trillogy.
Agreed and this is coming from someone who hated singular point.
Honestly it’s just the execution which killed the Godzilla Earth films.
I also don’t like the execution of Singular Point but it was a hellalot better than the GE movies.
Personally if GE took a few different directions in plot and writing in the second and third films it could have saved the whole trilogy.
Examples being exploring Mechagodzilla, other human evolutions, scrapping any thought of the Ghidorah cult crap, actual good Godzilla scenes, better written characters that don’t talk like Dora the explorer. Those changes alone would bump it up in people’s personal Godzilla movie rankings.
This team didn't know how to use CG animation or anything of visual story telling in general. For a 3 movie production with one of the greatest ip in fiction, these projects reek of amateur.
Things the Godzilla Earth trillogy did RIGHT
-Really good concepts for the movie
-Good monsters/machines designs (at least for me)
-The music
-Visual effects (fire, Godzilla back sparks, etc)
-The kaijus are pretty much in their ultimate evolutions/forms
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Things the Godzilla Earth trillogy did WRONG
-Execution
-They fucked up with Ghidorah by turning it into Big ol Noodle Boi
-Bigger Boi Godzilla doesn't even react to the death of its offspring Big Boi Godzilla Jr (yes I know its not the official name, but let me have this)
-The protagonist is not likeble at all
-Too many useless plot points
-Bad storytelling
If there's anything I forgot please comment and I'll put it in the list. Thank you.
Also, the fucked up Mothra. She's just a shadow. And Mechagodzilla is just a city (so the physical version featured in posters, one novel, and various toys is just false advertisement).
You described most Godzilla movies man lol
They’re polarizing bc some people refuse to dislike anything Godzilla. They try to live in this fairly land by convincing themselves they actually enjoy them and that others just don’t understand the films, & that’s why they don’t like them. While the others are realists and are perfectly fine with calling crap crap when they see it, and have no problem dropping the whole trilogy down to the bottom of the list with Godzilla’s Revenge All Monsters Attack.
Or maybe some people just have different tastes than you. I enjoyed them. But guess what? I enjoyed the other Godzilla movies, too. You can like both. I can acknowledge the faults of both the anime and the regular movies. Your condescending attitude isn't going to win over any anime fans, it's only going to make them tune you out.
@@rhenvao2844 I can't tell if you fall in the category of Godzilla fans that refuse to dislike them bc they have the Godzilla name on them, or if you're one of the types to just convince themselves they like the movies bc they think they're smarter than everyone else, and the other dummies just didn't understand with their dumb brains. There is some overlap there since both are still convincing themselves for 1 dumb reason or another. Maybe you just have terrible taste, for whatever reason. But you're probably more of a wild card type, known as the kid. The kids that are new G-fans, could fit into any of these categories, or all of them at once. They are very likely to have terrible taste, giving far more credit to crap than it deserves, or simply just liking it more bc of how few movies and shows they've seen compared to adults, or just bc they're a positive child, both of which disqualify you from making an informed, unbiased judgment. They do this bc they just became Godzilla fans, and these movies just came out now, unlike all the old poopy Godzilla movies, these are THEIRS. So, it doesn't matter that they suck, these are their Godzilla movies, so they're gonna like them no matter what. These are the ppl like yourself, who will defend these piles of shit with nothing more than "I like them, ppl CAN have different opinions than you. As if that's not enough, these kids can also say crap like this bc they're also in the category that says other people are dumb and just don't get it, but they don't realize that they don't know shit about shit yet. I'm betting you're a kid, cuz it seems you got a bit of all these. You were definitely making excuses there, talking about acknowledging the movies' faults and still enjoy them, convincing yourself. Plus you're talking about anime fans like they're a separate race, and as if anyone would care about winning them over. So yeah you're a kid, your opinion doesn't count bc you haven't lived long enough to gain the wisdom to make judgements that matter. That's why the kids need to go where only other kids make judgements, cuz you all base your opinions off of some group, large or small, other people think for you and you dislike anything that contradicts that group. Anyhow, I fully believe you have convinced yourself into liking these movies, which is fine, like them all you want, but they are not good movies, but some ppl, like kids, don't need movies to be good in order to like them. You'll realize how awful they are when you get older, and then you won't like them anymore. Alright, have a good day!
Our hero bravely leaves that bug lady to raise his surely freakish hybrid child by herself.
I actually quite like the series it's not that bad
After watching all three of those films and seeing the ending of the third film, I was like:
“So… all the death, everything these characters have done was in vain and humanity will never reclaim the earth. So it was all for nothing? *sigh* What a waste.”
This trilogy, especially with part 2, has soooo much exposition. Normally that's standard and not too much of a problem for a Godzilla movie, but it's so much worse here because of the technobabble and hard to follow jargon.
I hope you mention Monster Apocalypse, the biggest fuck you to the fans, bc it’s basically what we were promised in lead up hype, glossed over in the opening 20 seconds of the first film, and delivered in book form, not yet translated to English.
Behold! The ultimate example in film of wasted potential!
They didn’t evolve from bugs. In the prequel novel they explain that one of the scientists fused Mothra’s DNA in humans and they would become what is now the Hotua.
They should've made a Monster Apocalypse/Project MechaGodzilla anime series
I can't believe I saw 3 movies just to see this video, but here I am. I really enjoyed the time I watched the movies, maybe because of my personal life, since I didn’t stop to see a movie for a long time and so I took advantage of this break in the routine, even so, it was one of the few Gozilla films that I didn’t hate humans and well maybe I’m just very simple, because many things said in the film I had barely noticed and the fact that I didn’t have any expectations built should also have helped. At the end of the day I wouldn't say it is a big waste of time, but I would not have high expectations either, it is a trilogy that does not hurt to watch, but it is not a must and even having enjoyed it, I can see that it is a great potential lost. Thank you very much for the video, Hugs from Brazil.
If you managed to get some enjoyment out of it, I think that's great! Thank you very much for the comment! Very highly appreciated!
I actually liked it but yeah it has problems and its still worth watching no matter how much people don't like it
Ps. I probably like it because I like bug waifus too much and I need more of them
adastial Bl oh no
You know what I would like to see instead?
An on going hand drawn anime series taking place in Toho's godzilla universe set either in modern times or the "near" future. That fully uses all of Tohos classic characters.
Instead of seeing a slow moving stiff CG Godzilla we get some epic hand drawn scenes of Godzilla fighting all his villains along with his allies, season after season complete with some good old classic anime drama. Toho has enough characters in their worlds to make it happen. It could be like a mix between Attack on Titan and Batman the Animated Series with Kaijus (what I mean with the latter one is that it would be exciting to see how they would reintroduce different Toho figures as recurring charaters in a action story driven show that carefully brings all the past incarnations of Godzillas worlds together in epic way that fans would love)
Richard Parker when you say slow CG Godzilla you’re talking about planet Godzilla right?
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario yes
Richard Parker good