Godzilla Showdown | SHIN vs GOJIRA, Part 2: Godzilla
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- In this video, the King takes center stage for analysis. Which interpretation ultimately comes out stronger?
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Godzilla being a victim to radiation also makes me like his transition to a hero figure. In a way, Godzilla embraces his tragic past so that he could use his radiation powers as a strength to make a better future for himself and anyone else around him. What makes the Showa Godzilla films great is that, unlike other monsters in the past, Godzilla learns to move forward.
The scene in Godzilla vs Hedorah where Godzilla is seemingly talking to Hedorah could be a reflection of that:
*Godzilla:* Human irresponsibility made me what I am today, just as it did you. I know your anger and understand your rage.
*Hedorah:* Rage? Hohoho, no, I am grateful that they have provided me with such a sumptuous banquet!
*Godzilla:* Hedorah, it's not too late! There's an island, not far from here, where others of our kind have settled. You can start over there, live in...
*Hedorah:* Peace? And you call yourself "King"?! Enough of this prattle!
The Showa era is the best character arc in history
@@samrizzardi2213cmon don't use the Naruto talk no jutsu on godzilla he's too perfect for that mess
@@Godzilla-jr5gi Never watched Naruto. Would you prefer a Shakespearean rendition?
*Godzilla:* Verily thy rancour shalt be thy undoing, lest ye settle upon yonder island of behemoths.
*Hedorah:* Fie! Thy appeals to concord doth vex me mightily!
@@PS2_Best_Era There most definitely _is_ transition, considering he started his career strangling Angilas with his jaws and having the time of his life giving Kong third degree burns.
Here’s hoping Godzilla 2023 isn’t just a statue that walks forward. I hope that when the military attacks him, he actively strikes back with intention like he’s actually defending himself. I hope we see Godzilla’s anger, sadness and pain like in the original 54 movie
Well, we have seen in the later Reiwa installments that Godzilla has a personality starting to seep through, mainly in the short films.
@@Godzillakingofkaiju1 Shame none of that personality was seen in Shin, The Anime Trilogy and Singular Point
@@PS2_Best_Eraopinion disrespecter
1984 Godzilla evokes the original better than any other has so far
sadly, we all know that aint happening
I like how you state him being attacked when he’s at peace is ironic tbh. Kinda makes me think of the cycle of violence. He feels he’s been attacked, goes ashore, exacts vengeance and in revenge for humanity, is killed by Dr Serizawa with a weapon that takes more lives than just Godzilla’s and his own.
for the heisei godzilla series, I can understand why they relied so much on beam shooting because the suits were so heavy that the actors barely move around in them.
but Shin godzilla has no excuses to justify godzilla just standing there.
I do like Shin godzilla and I think its a decent film, but yeah I do understand why so many people hate it.
I’ll always love the original Godzilla more than Shin. I’m not just referring to the movie, I’m referring to the character himself.
This Godzilla based upload is one of the most eye opening ive ever seen. Call me shallow, but I honestly had no idea the original Gojira monster had such a personality, & im re watching it again soon, to take in all the things my pea brain clearly missed these first 37 times I watched it. Secondly, from this point forward, I wont be able to unsee the rubber chicken reference in Shin Godzilla! Thank you & f u Mr. Collins
Great Video Omni!
I’ve always found the pedestal this movie is placed on to be cartoonish. Even after my feelings on it mellowed I still think a lot of the praise is hyperbolic to the point of silly. There are people who think it’s better than Gojira and that it should be the only “true” Godzilla incarnation. Which I get having different opinions but that is asinine.
I hope Toho starts making Godzilla a character again. After 3 times of him being a soulless husk I’m sick of it.
Same. I think Shin is a great film, but even I can acknowledge all the criticism of it.
I saw people saying it was their favorite Godzilla film BEFORE it was even out in Japan. So to me a lot of the love and praise seems insincere
@@angilobascomi8617 Judging by many videos here on youtube of people loving shin godzilla because of fan animations alone, it's clear that many only like him for his design and powers and like to make theories about him.
Wich is fair, I myself give MV goji too much credit sometimes because I try to imagine his past. But it's crazy how many people always mention the fact that shin will keep evolving when talking about him, as if it's the only thing they like about him. People like him because of his potential strengh and unusual design, but some aren't even aware of his movie.
A hentai name and profile pic, crying about “western” media and cherry-picking Japanese media to try to formulate a narrative? Yeah that checks out
@@angilobascomi8617true
At This Point, Toho NEEDS to realize that you can only do The SHIN personality So many times until it starts getting dull.
(For GOD Sakes, LET GODZILLA BE A CHARACTER, ALLOW HIM TO EMOTE!!!!!!!)
Even though Singular point was an overall ball drop. I feel like we were starting to get on the right track with shin ultima. Nothing groundbreaking like it might pretend to be, but certainly a sense of prideful rage and territorialism
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I would've allowed Godzilla to have Facial expressions to better reflect his Mindset.
Plus it would Open the Door with SO MANY OTHER opportunities to Make Godzilla look Badass!!!
@@gojizirra1018 oh certainly. The fact the animateonic suit is more expressive than a 3D animation is incredibly bizarre to me
@@PS2_Best_Era Because Godzilla has feelings the same way that WE do, (Especially as Implied in the Heisie series) He's also a Hyper intelligent creature who's intellect matches our own, of not Downright Surpasses it.
Besides, GMK Godzilla WAS a LITERAL walking corpse and even HE had plenty of expression and personality. Like when he Scoffs in disgust when Baragon Hardly put up much of a fight, or when he expresses clear Rage and Hatred while looking at the humans running from him. (It's One of the Few Movies that Has Godzilla attack innocent people DIRECTLY for god's sake!!)
and Even if You DO want to give him a personality without him being facially Expressive, You have to have him emote and react Just enough with body language to the point where We don't HAVE to rely on Barely understandable Lyrics to know his motive of know when he's in pain.
Godzilla may be a God, and an unstoppable force of Nature but he's still a living being and should still be treated as such.
(Besides you can only take the "Shin" route so many times before it starts getting dull.)
@@PS2_Best_Era Godzilla has always had anthropomorphic qualities. He was portrayed by a man obviously, but his design often posses mammalian traits. It's not about him being scary here, but him being a character. He isn't a horror movie villain, he doesn't come from a slasher movie or even a lovecraftian tale. He is an atomic age monster, they're usually loud and bombastic, it's not taking away his potential, it's what he is by default. Godzilla is theartening, but he never was scary.
Not saying that the other approach is bad, but it's not what godzilla usually is. Again he is a kaiju not a lovecraftian entity.
I hope Minus One showcases Godzilla's tragic and occasionally peaceful side, at least in moderation.
He's the antagonist, a monster by all means. BUT he shouldn't be depicted as pure evil. He clearly has a bone to pick with humanity. Japan started the war, leading to the bombs, after all. One character said " this monster will never forgive us" in the Minus One trailer.
I was hoping there was going to be mentions of that illustration book by Tomoyuki Tanaka on the origins of Godzilla where it showed Godzilla with a family who had smooth skin until the Atomic Bomb wiped out his family & deformed him. Also, a side note, Goodbye Old Friend wasn't sung in Sumerian it was sung in Babylonian.
That Illustration book is still third-party information, it wouldn't be fair to use that to prove the film has strong writing.
Hey, Ryan, I don't know if you know this, buuuuuut, Primal just got renewed for a third season.
Also, great video.
Hell yeah!
I dread of this third season. Season 2 had a perfect ending, and it almost always ends in disaster when you try to continue something that didn't need to be continued on in the first place.
Wait for real but os Fang Returning with her new family and Spears Daughter?
Once again you are right. I can’t tell you how many people I have been in debates with who say that the Original Godzilla has no personality and every time I mention something they try to flip it on me by saying he’s just an animal. And of course using who will know for Shin Godzilla having a personality. I
4:08 shin Godzilla goes through that as well. Remember when the bunker buster bombs hurt him he retaliates, when he was overheating in his second form he roared out in pain so he retreated.
yes but like omni said, that is just a reaction, reaction don't make you a character.
Yes always a pleasure to have shoutout to King Of The Monsters 4 doing something else better then Shin Godzilla
I loved thay film. It made me feel like a kid again.
I would argue the reason shin uses his beam so much in that one scene is because he's panicing. I get this interpretation based off one set of lines from who will know
A shaft of light is all I need
To cease the darkness killing me
He is scared and afraid even of he doesn't seem it. He was just peacefully walking when all of a suddens something blows up his back and makes him bleed. Following this, he evolved the atomic breath (and by proxy atomic spine lasers) to defend himself adn then promplty fires them absolutely everywhere in a desperate attempt to stop whatever is killing him. And once the deed is done? He goes back to sleep because he's safe now
Can’t wait for the rest
8:38
I know you're focusing on the original film, but honestly my favorite contrast to the Who Will Know? scene in Shin is Godzilla's counterattack in GMK. Godzilla beats Mothra and Ghidorah unconscious, the military throws everything they have at him to keep him from finishing them off, Godzilla just sort of snorts, and then proceeds to kill most of them in about thirty seconds. The reason this scene holds more power for me is we actually *see* the consequences of this attack, we see vehicles destroyed, we see units go dark on the Aka's battlemap, we *see* bodies go flying (we even get the one, somewhat grizzled looking NCO who squares up on Godzilla as the beam approaches and faces his death with dignity). Shin hasn't got anything like that; it suffers from the same problem Return of Godzilla has, wherein Godzilla rampages through a seemingly empty city and no one is in danger.
Hey, Omni. I think I may have a solution on how to fix Godzillas personality problem in Shin. Do you remember the episode of Primal, "Plague of Madness?" I think that could be the way they could've improved Godzilla. Let's say his mutations throughout the film is random and the result of nuclear waste dumping. However, all that sudden mutation causes actual physical pain to Godzilla, but he doesn't know what to do in response to that pain. So, he's not thinking straight throughout the whole movie. He's freaking out, the pain is causing anger, so he acts aggressively and irrationally.
Just a thought.
Glad to see this video's finally dropped, but I do have one criticism. What's your stance on Godzilla's weird new attributes such as tail and back-lasers? I'm not a fan myself and to me it seemed they tried a little too hard to re-invent Godzilla.
that time godzilla became an angel.
0:17 I didn't know Steven Spielberg was a Godzilla fan!
You'd be surprised how many big shots are, and Spielberg is one of them. Why else do you think he brought the T-rex to San Diego in THE LOST WORLD?
I actually thought Who Will Know was Latin or something at first and only learned it was in English sometime later. I've become a bit afraid to say anything about songs I can't understand so it's nice to have that impression somewhat validated.
Singing in the rain… is that a Godzilla 98 reference?!
That's a lotta fish!
I'm at 13:14, so idk if omni says this later on but the only time(s?) In shin godzilla where I think godzilla shows character is when he seems to get mad and want revenge when the Americans blow the shit out of his back with the bunker busters, and then godzilla shoots those goofy ass lazers out his back, and the other time is when he gets woken up at the end by the drones and starts fighting, and then again when they start filling his mouth with coolant and he bites a bunch of the trucks and whips his head back and fourth before he stands up and freezes. Those are the only places I can think of that shin godzilla shows any personality or character at all, and I don't really dislike the idea of shin godzilla representing the impersonal death and destruction of a natural or nuclear disaster, especially in this one movie that's a cool idea, but only in this context of this movie, any other context or movie and the emotionless thing most likely doesn't work, but I'd say because if thematic metaphorical reasons that I like the emotionless aspect of shin godzilla. But either way I think the only time shin godzilla for sure shows character and personality is when the Americans drop all that freedom into godzillas back and then he destroys the jets and Tokyo in response. Those other two examples are much iffier and arguable than that example in my opinion. Just me tho
that feels more like a reaction more than an actual personality.
think of it this way, if someone punches you in the face out of nowhere, will you just stand there, or will you fight back? of course you will fight back, because its a natural reaction the body has to protect yourself from outside threats. It has nothing to do with personality or character (although some people are less impulsive than others, but thats not the point)
same thing here, godzilla just reacted in self defense, he had absolutely no interest in fighting back before.
Godizilla in Shin Godzilla is terrifying because he's a mystery. When he first comes ashore his desperate, flailing motions indicate that he's there for a reason; driven by pure instinct to fulfill some purpose, and not knowing that purpose makes him scarier (though I believe the movie does eventually reveal what motivates him).
Later, when he's evolved into his fourth form, it's his LACK of reaction to most of the things around him that adds to his menace. Most versions of Godzilla get angry or at least annoyed when human weapons are turned on him even though he suffers no real injury from these attacks. With this Godzilla, the Self Defense Force fires a ton of ordinance at his legs and into his face and...nothing. He simply continues to move forward, seemingly uncaring of the explosions obscuring his face. It's a chilling image. When the SDF does manage to get a reaction out of him, it's to their detriment. He kicks a bridge into the air, causing it to almost crush several tanks and the people in them. We don't actually see him do this because he's shrouded in smoke from the bombing and aren't expecting it because he's done nothing in retaliation up to this point. Unnerving, but nothing compared to the symphony of destruction he unleashes in response to the Americans' attack.
So Japan is besieged by this apparently invincible creature that modern science cannot fathom and whom only takes notice of humans to destroy them. Omni is correct that the damage Godzilla inflicts during his initial appearance is unintentional. He doesn't care about humans; they're merely a nuisance and distraction from his purpose. We're like insignificant ants to him. The task force assembled to study him are, like the audience, unaware of why he's here but they have to figure out a way of stopping him before time runs out. Godzilla in this movie is a mystery that must be unraveled.
And unraveled it (mostly) is. I think the final shot of the creatures emerging from Godzilla's tail shows us what his purpose was. Like a salmon, Godzilla was returning to his point of origin to procreate. The single minded pursuit of this goal is his only real personality trait, but it DOES make him a character. A shallow character, yes, especially when compared to other versions, but still a memorable one as far as I'm concerned.
(Edited for grammar).
Oh look a shin defender!
@@Godzilla-jr5giWhich is good.
too long didn't read
"I think the final shot of the creatures emerging from Godzilla's tail shows us what his purpose was. Like a salmon, Godzilla was returning to his point of origin to procreate."
He originated in the ocean. The movie plainly states that this Godzilla was a purely aquatic being when he started out, more like a shark than a salamander, and he was like that for a minimum of six decades. How, then, can his "point of origin" be on land if he has never been on land before? Why would his instincts draw him there as opposed to remaining in the water like he would have done otherwise?
@@omniviewer2115 He wants to take over the world.
Too bad Godzilla didn’t do a good enough job of killing everyone in Tokyo bcuz there were people who got payback on him ending his reign of terror in the original movie
you also said in one of your old shin videos that who will know is like phil collin's songs in tarzan, where they break the rule of show don't tell. like you said about gojira, godzilla in that film shows characteristics of a thinking and feeling being, which follows the rule, whereas shin shows nothing and we are told what hes thinking and feeling through a song
@Oppai_connoisseur No, that's not actually true. Humans in the Showa films were there to provide commentary, but not about how the monsters are feeling. Usually, the commentary was plot related. Some examples include realizing the piece of space titanium found in a remote location came from the Godzilla-shaped robot that just appeared, or stating that the reason Jet Jaguar suddenly increased his size is because he programmed himself to.
You would occasionally get examples of characters saying it looked like the monsters felt a certain way, but these were very rare occasions. Even when they did happen, though, they did not serve as a substitute for having the monsters express themselves. Throughout the Showa Series, the emotions and motives of the Kaiju are clearly conveyed through the visuals; having the humans acknowledge that every so often is no different than if they acknowledged the emotions of another human character...which they do as well.
Still, it is very rare for human characters to explain what the monsters are thinking and feeling to the audience. Nobody, for example, comments on Godzilla's interest in Daiyo during EBIRAH, HORROR OF THE DEEP. No human ever proclaims that Gigan is a coward for abandoning Ghidorah or Megalon when the tides of battle turn. These are expressed solely by the monsters themselves. Even the scene in GHIDORAH, THE 3-HEADED MONSTER where the Shobijin are translating the conversation between Godzilla, Mothra, and Rodan is predominantly just that: translation. Watch the scene on mute, and you can still get a sense of what each monster's attitude is.
Go back and watch those older Showa films again. In fact, watch them in Japanese so you know you're getting the original intent and not added dub elements. You will find that instances of people saying, "[Monster] is feeling [Emotion]" are so infrequent that they collectively are the exception rather than the rule, and the monsters are more than capable of "speaking" for themselves.
Anno makes only one product, and he makes it well. That product is Evangelion.
Personally I c the Deadly Mantis being a precursor to the Gimantis or Kamacarus in Son Of Godzilla
Honestly, they should’ve just gone with „God’s Godzilla“; an unmade G-Film From 1979, at least then, Godzilla Would’ve had a slightly Better excuse to be a Golem for whatever that’s worth…
I'm not the biggest shin an but I dount a movie where godzilla is a flying sphinx transporting Jesus would have been a better idea.
@@Megaspinosaurusrex It would have been a hell lot more entertaining than watching loads o ˋ schmucks in suits talk for two hours straight while an Irradiated piece of Kebap meat lumbers around Tokyo, though…
The only reason y I can c people liking the shin movie is bcuz it’s been a long time since they saw a movie where Godzilla is the villain pure n simple whereas with the 2014 he was much more of a good guy but even I wouldn’t say it’s as good or better then the original 1954 Gojira movie
Egon: it’s Sumerian/ Winston: can u read Sumerian/ Egon: in my sleep, under water n with the lights off of course I can read Sumerian
What the hell is wrong with 2019?! He’s right! I love the film.
Let me offer a counter-argument:
Shin (Godzilla), as I read the film, isn’t supposed to have a stated motivation. He’s an unknowable “god.” His motivations are mysterious. He’s unpredictable. That’s what makes him scary. It also goes back to the 3/11 disaster, which inspired this incarnation. He’s the looming threat that never goes away, much like what happened after the Fukushima disaster.
That's not exactly the argument I would use. For the characters in the movie, them not understanding Godzilla seems to be part of the equation but I still think Godzillas motives can be chalked up to a tormented creature trying to survIve though it's twisted anatomy
@@PS2_Best_Era *yes!* this!!! You've stated in a few sentences what I was trying ti with a bunch of lofty paragraphs.
The Cthulhu Mythos is built entirely around the idea of creatures, gods, and concepts being "unknowable", yet I can still tell you more about the motivation and personality of Cthulhu than I can about Shin Godzilla because we get hints in the writing.
Also, if Shin Godzilla is truly meant to be unknowable, then why is "Who Will Know?" on the soundtrack? It's supposed to show insight into Godzilla's personality, even though it doesn't really line up with the visuals and is difficult to understand. Regardless, the song's purpose is to make him knowable to the audience.
The way I see it, Godzilla cannot be justified as unknowable AND have his entire character described in a song. Those two statements cannot be true at the same time. Since, however, they both coexist within the film, we are left with a paradox of sorts, where multiple elements come together trying to claim disparate ideas as facts simultaneously. In any other movie, that would be considered sloppy storytelling. Why excuse it here?
@@omniviewer2115 I'm not sure if shin Godzilla is meant to be unknowable as he is really hard to understand by humans involved. They don't contemplate Godzilla mental state of being beyond trying to predict a pattern, because that sort of empathy isn't directly useful in this life and death situation.
@Oppai_connoisseur But the audience can't hear or understand the song, and as mentioned, it doesn't line up with what we see in the movie itself.
Everything in a film exists for a reason, but when those reasons are contradictory, that's a problem.
wait a minute, didn't the movie explain that he wanted to reproduce asexually or something like that.
Nope, that's never once stated in the film.
but I remember in a scene where the scientist are explaining that he was an " ever evolving creature and was able to reproduce asexually"
sure that doesn't really explain his motivation in a clear and consistent way but at least it does give us a little hindsight into what his intensions were (well sort off)
regardless of such, I still really enjoyed this video, and I appreciate the effort you put into your analysis.
I don't want to sound like a hater, im just curios @@omniviewer2115
@@omniviewer2115 never mind I saw your other comment where you indicated that Godzillas point of origin, was underwater and not on land, so forget what I said
Incomes the crappy "defense" of "Godzilla's not supposed to have a character cuz Anno is a genius and wanted different story" or some crap like that.
Also, does anybody actually know where the "Who Will Know comes from Godzilla's POV" even comes from? I've seen no official material on it and as far as I know it's headcanon.
Personality is one of Godzilla's defining traits as well and Shin started a horrible trend.
As for Heisei defense, the amount of breath spam is greatly exaggerated on rewatch. Very few of the fights have Godzilla avoid getting physical, only Biollante and MKG really. Spacegodzilla was very deliberately trying to keep Godzilla and Moguera back from his power source, and even then they do get close at times. Heck Godzilla's solution to MG reflecting his beam is to get physical. Compare that to the current era of films where on the Japanese side Godzilla does nothing but beam spam and Legendary can't decide how to use the breath in a satisfying way save the kill on Ghidorah.
(Also Shin is one of the weakest Godzillas have to throw that out there).
The two Godzilla animes are infinitely worse with beam spamming than the heisei films ever were for sure. Even when they did physically fight though, It did feel like the suits bulk was always more limited what they could do when compared to showa and millennium films. Also what about Legendary's kiss of death? Or the scene after he gets nuked? I'm not sure what should be defined as a "satisfying beam moment." But something tells me that hole through the hollow earth doesn't fancy ya?
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 The kiss of death in the 2014 film is one of the greatest scenes in the entire series.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 The Showa suits never really tried to convince you that well though, later on especially where the fights were more the focus. Millennium has hit or miss suits and combat, but yes generally an improvement. Kiss of Death is cool but he still kinda pulls the head off with his hands after making it feel a little weaker. And the Call to Arms is just....showing off but it's fine. The scene is good but him just slamming his own back for that shot looks weird. The hole to Hollow Earth is fine to me as someone who talks about how strong Godzilla is, but in context it just has no reason to exist.
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the wear on the showa suits in the later movies was most of the issue, but Otherwise I think most of the suit actors had enough freedom with their body expressions to pull you into the moment and only think about them as suits after the fact. I remember my brother actually used to think the suits were stop motion of all things pftt.
I'll say that heiseis best battles beat millenniums best, burning Godzilla Vs Destoroyah might be the best battle in the series imo. But I'd argue there wasn't a single millennium fight that was ever worse than OK and were consistently pretty good, to rad, but heisei had some lows for me.
Hmmmm, there was also that scene of him hurdling King Ghidorah back and inadvertently saving Madison? I dunno what really qualifies, cause I don't know what doesn't qualify. I don't see Godzilla using his atomic breath and ever think "oh that was a mid moment." It's pretty intense every time. Especially in those live action short films they keep releasing, where they treat Goji's breath like a one shot.
I would argue G14 used the atomic breath quite well. It's mainly Gvk which messed it up by showing him overuse it agaist kong for no reason, then stop using it against mechag.
18:57 hold on now Omni, it's been confirmed shin Godzilla is in perpetual Agony. Only ever roaring when it's pain is too overwhelming to bare. And though it can evolve to any situation, it's never shown as this sudden triumpant power up of a villain, Godzillas always either made desperate or cringingly going through an unpleasant metamorphosis. I'd argue Godzillas own evolutions force him onwards more then the other way around.
I'll concede that who will know could've been implemented in better way, but feel like it was discernible enough to still be discussed. Especially since the song Lyrics still hint at what visual story telling the movie gives us. A being perpetually on the verge of death, longing for an escape of it's pain but unable to let itself die. Godzilla wandered without end because it's Godzillas only option. He's just as out of place at sea as he is on tokyo, forsaken by man and nature yet a slave to survival instincts, and a vain hope one of it's forms it fill accumulate to a place or a state of existence that won't bring it suffering.
existence.
You are certainly right that OG Godzilla's rampage is much more personal and telling of his rage. And that intimacy is to be appreciated. I do think Shin avoidance to do direct damage in his main form to infrastructure is still telling to it's character in it's own way. Shin Godzilla is trying to adapt to land after all, so shin wouldn't just be destroying an area it's trying to live within. And before the beam attack scene there was that crucial moment when the Japanese army was bombarding Godzillas face and limbs and he ends up sending a broken bridge at the tanks while, under the cover of smoke. I think that shows Shin had a level of planning at least but also felt minimalistic in it's still trying to use the least amount of force possible to go it's way before pushed to a new breaking point.
I think you're missing Omni's point here.
Does the _movie_ tell us he's in perpetual pain? No.
Does the _movie_ actually tell us any of that? No.
It all comes from expanded material that was made to patch that hole the movie left. If all of that was intentional, it should have been in the film itself, not confirmed outside of it.
This is why King of the Monsters 2019 has better visual storytelling. Most, if not all, of the characterization can be gleamed from the film itself.
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim I would certainly agree that King of the monsters portrayed their ideas better throughout its story, but I don't think shin Godzilla leaves the audience as clueless as omni says.
The movie doesn't outright say Shin Godzilla is in perpetual pain, but everything about it's design, along with key moments in the film make that notion clear. It's riddled in scars and torn skin, an each form is shown bleeding profusely during one scene or another, and it only ever roars when dealt severe damage or going through a dramatic transformation.
It could be argued the humans should've acknowledged it's pain, but part of the tragedy is that Godzillas suffering is humanity doesn't understand it. They focus more on the pragmatic threat or mythologize a desperate creature as a wrathful god. (Kinda reminds me of people thinking Dogs with mange are the chupacabra actually..) If nothing else that might've been nice after the fact when Godzilla was neutralized. It hardly compared to the original Godzilla, but I don't think we're dealing with a blank slate here
If shin can evolve to adapt to any situation at will, then why does he not evolve to stop being in pain?
@@_KingDavid3323 shin adapts to survive against whatever's killing him, not for comfort. No matter what Godzilla adapts into, it's still an irradiated aberration.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I do believe it leaves the Audience as clueless.
If it didn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
To be honest, when I saw Shin, I literally couldn't see any of the things you list here.
I just saw a movie monster who can change form when it needs to.
The original godzilla incarnation is overrated in my opinion shin gojira is way better than the original
And here we have the spoiled gen z kid who hates any godzilla movie remotely older than his 12 year old self 🙄
@@Kaiju-bm4tsbut shin is better Ceep Koping
@@legendarygodzillatheking3049 Kid take your Muppet-batman ego elsewhere lol