I just bought the G40 over the weekend. Was a little unsure about it because I've never shot a 10mm, or any pistol of that caliber before. All I have to say is that I absolutely love it! Put 100 rounds through it over the course of about an hour 15. Would have kept shooting, but was starting to get low on ammo and we were ready to get out of there. It's a very smooth shooting hand cannon
Might as well get the G41 and put the KKM 10 mm barrel in it for $165.00. That way you'll have four Glock pistols in that caliber. My G41 runs great with that barrel.
@@snipesmcfreely5879 I conceal it, how I do it is with a slightly baggy t-shirt and sweats/cargo pants. I keep it at 12 o'clock, parallel with my genitals. I use a ratcheting belt system like Nexbelt. When you are walking, tighten it, when you are sitting, loosen it (you can do this very discreetly by just pressing the loosen button) so it hangs a little off your body and doesn't poke your genitals. You don't feel it when you're sitting at all if you loosen it a little and tighten when you stand.
Btw, the baggy t-shirt and pants is not unique to the Glock 40. The grip is normal sized, the only different thing about the gun is the barrel length and I solved that with the ratcheting belt and 12:00. You can conceal all the 10mm just like how you would conceal any other gun.
Good presentation! I have both and wouldn't part with either. They just fill different niches. The 20 is all purpose: range, hiking, home defense, car gun, etc. The 40 is a dedicated precision target gun/hunting gun. The 40 is really more for shooting scenarios where you can really take your time and focus intently on the sights. They're both winners!
Thank you. I carry the 40 in the woods as a defense against dangerous game, where you definitely won't have time to focus on the sights, that is why it is perfect in my case for a red-dot.
Great review! I just picked up a new G20 yesterday. My wife and I are heading up to Glacier National Park in Montana and I wanted something for bear defense besides bear spray. At first I was thinking I would just pack my Remington 870 Tactical pump with 00 buckshot and slugs but I don’t want to carry a heavy shotgun the whole trip so hopefully the new G20 will alleviate that. I’ll carry the G20 and my wife can carry the bear spray, maybe my Gen 5 Glock 17 as well.
In my neck of the woods, the 20s sit around a bit, but the 40s, whenever they come up at our local dealer, gets sold in the blink of an eye........no sitting around for the 40. They call it the Glockzilla.
Great vid! Just a note though: Gen 4 guns have the RTF4 texture, and not the RTF2. That texture was more aggressive, and only came on a limited number of Gen 3 G19/23 and 17/22's (the ones with the crescent moon shaped rear slide serrations).
The G-20 is for the bad guy behind the refigerator. The G-40 is for the bad guy hiding behind the refrigerator in the neighbor's house across the street. lmao! I love my G-20 however I can only effectively conceal carry this firearm at the 6 o'clock position due to the size. Dara Holsters makes an impressive IWB rig for this application.
The G-20 is definitely getting on the edge of something you can easily conceal. The G-29 is relatively easy to conceal and provides close to the same power with slightly lower capacity. I use the 20 or 40 when I am in the woods and have no need to conceal, and the 29 when I need to blend in.
Am I the only one that laughed after reading this part and making a mental picture. Haha "I love my G-20 however I can only effectively conceal carry this firearm at the 6 o'clock position due to size".
Hammer Striker The 20 with a shorter barrel than the 40, you said that less powder burns and you loose some power. If you step down to an even shorter barrel with the 29 you will loose even more power due to un burnt powder. At that point wouldn’t it be a better choice to just carry a 40 S&W like the 23 or 27?
“The 20 is good for a bad guy hiding behind the refrigerator, and the 40 is good for a bad guy hiding behind the refrigerator in the neighbors house across the street” Love that Shit
We found that very surprising as well, until I considered that most would end up with a red-dot and they would have to have done some lightening of the slide to tolerate the extra mass of having a red-dot mounted on it.
The Glock 20 is NOT heavier than the 40 MOS ! It states right on Glock's website that the 40 MOS with empty magazine weighs 35.45 oz and the Glock 20 with empty magazine weighs 30.69 oz You must have compared the weight of the Glock 40 MOS without a magazine to the Glock 20 with a magazine. Besides, I own both the Glock 20 and Glock 40 MOS and weighed both on my scale.
@@Sagittariustoo - I remember reading up on both these models on the Glock website years ago and seeing those weight numbers he mentions in the video. I didn't believe it. Must've been a typo. Well the Glock site has been updated since then, and the official numbers match yours now.
I was thinking the same thing, but after thinking about it I thought that even with my other options I will still want to carry the 10mm and will end up carrying the 40 or the 20 so I am thinking I will get the 20.
G40 lighter ? As per Glock stats, the G40 is 35.45 oz and the G20 is 30.69 oz........40 being roughly 5 oz heavier than the 20. This makes sense, because the 40 has a longer barrel.
I carry my Glock 40 MOS with a Trijicon RMR at apendix carry all the time. Fits nicely. I'm a trim 180 lbs and 6' tall. I use a MIC holster. Which is a clip that goes over the trigger guard. Ive also done a caliber conversion to 9x25 Dillon.
I have the best of both worlds, a Glock 20 and an extended 6in Glock factory barrel for it, $160. This effectively converts a Glock 20 into a 40, but much better balanced. You could also get a Glock 40 slide assembly for the Glock 20 frame.
where would you say are some of the best places to order that from? I'm familiar with psa and buds and all the decent sites but haven't seen what you suggested. I've been leaning towards the 40 but only for it's sole benefits. if I could get the 20 and have the option to make it like a 40, it'd be like the grass is greener on both sides
@@hravistester4154 hey Harvey, what’d you end up going with? Finding a 40 has been a task but the 20s are everywhere (and $200 cheaper). Would love to use that saved money on a barrel if that makes it equal or better than the 40
SGM makes them. wolf sells them on their website. Reviews say they explode when dropped when loaded and there is issues with reliability. Still worth trying one for $20 i guess. KRISS also makes an extension for 33 rounds.
@@Kevinj36541 ...I have the smg....It has feeding issues...I think it's from having it fully stacked all the time....I take the bullets out sometimes for a day or 2 to let the spring get a break...I'm scared to just keep it in all the time bc I don't want to be in a situation & know I have the superior weapon & then...click!!!!...I don't think bads will let me have time out for a sec....yes/no???
I have a similar sized 9mm I carry concealed in a bra holster. My dad's 40sw is even bigger and he carries it waistband or vest depending on what he's wearing that day.
I went with the G40 on chest holster with a Holosun SCS that allows cowitness with the factory sights. Speaking of which, mine came with adjustable rear sight. I changed the front sight for a Tritium / fiber optic I had laying around too.
I went with the glock 40 just because we have a lot of bears here on Kodiak island and needed all the power I could get. It has the same ballistics as a 357 and the holds clips holds 15 + 1, also I got a 30 rounds clip just in case but I would have the glock 10mm over 44 that only has 6 shots.. it’s all about well placing your shots and I love how fast and accurate I can shoot my glock 40 and able to reload quick as well. It’s a badass pistol for sure. Love the video great Info 👍.
I've carried the g20 for yrs when "boondockin" style camping (using generator for power supply) up in N Mn . Blk bear, coyote and wolf territories . Only used once to pop off a warning shot at whatever was sniffing around the popup at night . Carry it fully covered in a dropleg holster with inside button release . I customized a safari land dropleg with water resistant material and 2-3x'd stitching .
Longer barreled G40 is more than a quarter pound heavier than G20. It's 4.77 oz heavier without magazine. So I think you were wrong about the weight. G40 is 32.28 oz without magazine and G20 is 27.51 oz without magazine. Thanks.
*The video showing the glock is very good, I know the Glock systems very well when I was young and as a gunsmith that I am, I modified many Glocks in automatics like the Glock 18 always with government authorizations. Regards.*
Gen four or newer are better than the old ones. I had a Gen one or two G20 and part of the plastic on the inside broke on me from the recoil. The inner/outer slide spring works much better, and recoils better than the old style. Guess that's why Glock changed the spring on all their guns now.
Thanks for such good information it was simple and strait to the point, for some one like me who is looking for perfection when I go mountain biking out in the woods all by my lonesome, thank you very much appreciate you
Thank-you. I have not yet had an opportunity to try a Rock Island but I have heard good things about them. For just range fun - the Armscor Precision 10mm is hotter than other range ammo, not quite Underwood territory but a lot cheaper.
Good choice - I use my G40 whenever I am in the woods. If I happened to be in griz territory I would likely take my Ruger Super Redhawk .454 along as well.
The weight is wrong on the 40 MOS. It's a mistake printed on the Glock website.My manual states that the weight is over 35 ozs , there is also a video ( I forget by who ) , that shows a guy weighing both of them & the 40 MOS is indeed over 35 ozs & heavier than the 20 by around 5 ozs. These are all unloaded weights with empty magazine installed.
I don't have a G20 to check but the G40 just scaled 35.7oz on a good digital scale and 35.1 on a spring balance postal scale. This is with an empty factory mag and no optic.
Hammer Striker heck yes and you got it right ab ammo, underwood for serious, armscor for round count. check out the mech tech carbine if you haven't already. pushing 10mm over 1000 ftlbs. ..
I carry a 29SF with stock barrel and Hornady Critical Duty on the street. 4.6" Barrel, x-grip on a G20 mag and Underwood 200gr XTPs around home and in the woods. Sometimes, I may carry it with the extended barrel OWB just to get strange looks lol
Putting an aftermarket barrel and muzzle brake on the,G40 takes alot of the recoil out of this gun but if they are not high power loads they don't cycle the slide well with it on.
Take a look at Underwood Ammo. Very close in cost to Federal or other "range ammo" but at the hot end of the scale (very hot in some cases). Their ammo should have no problem at all cycling your setup, and it is very high quality consistent ammo. They often run Free Shipping events (usually only lasting a day or two). At the cheaper end of the scale, I have found Armscor Precision to be fairly hot and can be had very inexpensively. You may want to try a box before committing to it just to be sure.
Making a Glock 40 pcc in either a Flux Defense or Recover tactical brace. Perfect for off-body carry in a bag or sling. I normally carry a LCP Max for conceal carry.
Yeah, we usually put the segments where we shoot fast or one-handed (which will tend to produce more fliers) at the end because we are demonstrating a different aspect of the gun. The opening segment is usually our attempt to show the best we can do with that particular gun.
these guns remind me of my G34. Was my first glock and appendix carried it, tried to conceal but it printed so bad 😂 looks to be about in between the size of the 20 and 40
just a heads up I the frames are not co.pletely the same. the 20 slide will fit and function on the 40 frame but not vise versa due to the larger dust cover on the 40 slide. It hits on the 20 frame frame due to it now being releived for it. same with say a 17 and 34 same situation.
Get the +2 Pearce grip extensions for 17+1 or the Kriss mag extension for the .45acp for a total of 30 some rounds if you don't think 15+1 isn't going to work.
It all depends upon the specific combination of red-dot and suppressor sights. Suppressor sights come in different heights as well as do red-dots. Researching who has already done it on a particular gun and can indicate a combination of sights/red-dot that works. The only ones that reliably co-witness without any effort on your part are "packages" assembled by a manufacturer when the gun comes with the sights and red-dot chosen and pre-installed by the manufacturer.
I was going to go with the model 40 prior to seeing this video, but think the model 20 will work better for me, as i won't be using it for hunting wildlife. Good review.
Thank you. The 20 is a great all-around choice. The 40 is more optimal for hunting and competition, or if you just have to have the biggest Glock there is.
The Rowland is cool but impractical. Ammo is expensive and hard to find and the muzzle brake/ compensator somewhat defeats the tool-less maintenance capabilities of the Glock. If your potential quarry/threat is black bear or anything smaller the 10mm will see to it nicely. If griz or polar bear is in your sights, look at something with a wheel loaded with .454/.460/.500.
the difference is availability I've seen a dozen g20s in my local area in the last 4 years, but I've only seen one g40. at the time I couldn't afford it :'(
Underwood, without a doubt. Both make a 220gr hardcasts that are equal. For the other loads, Underwood in the same weight is noticeably more powerful. Ex: 200 gr fmj - Underwood ( 1250fps/694 ft-lb) Buffalo (1200fps/639 ft-lb). I know that Buffalo Bore makes good ammo, but when it comes to power and diversity of loads available, Underwood pulls ahead. I will run various range ammos when having fun, but when I mean business it is always Underwood in the mag.
I shoot both and love both but I’d give buffalo bore the slight edge only because I can pick them up locally around and the 180gr @1350fps and 728@the muzzle is hard to beat in a jhp. Just my opinion.
My preferred option is a G20 with an aftermarket 6 inch barrel. The extra weight is good for handling recoil, and the ballistics are identical to the G40 with it's 6 inch barrel. I am a big man (5' 11" and 205 lbs). I laughed when he said the G20 was an inside the waistband carry gun. You have to be kidding. Maybe a G29 is concealable, but not the butt of the G20. The largest gun I carried concealed is a G26 in the winter. Summer in Houston is too hot for even the G26.
“This (G40) will definitely take care of a bear, and would really give a black bear a bad day, and definitely take care of a hog; and this (G20) would accomplish the same thing.” As it happens, that is exactly what I am shopping for - a bear gun. Specifically, a black bear gun, for protection out in the woods, where black bears and mountain lions are our only dangerous predators. I won't be doing any hunting with it. So, do I understand you correctly, that the G20 would be materially as effective for that purpose as a G40? I mean, will the shorter barrel result in a close enough muzzle velocity to do the job, if I ever need it to? I would really like to be able to conceal it, rather than have to change guns for hiking in the woods vs. going to town, etc. But I don't want to sacrifice too much in the way of bear stopping power, either. I'm leaning G20. Thanks, if you are still monitoring comments.
Either gun would be equally effective for the threats that you are concerned with. The muzzle velocity difference would not be enough to make a discernible difference. The real advantage that the G40 has is the ability to put a red-dot on it from the factory.
Great comment and question. Correct me if my logic is wrong here...wouldn't the G40 be more advantageous for an irrate bear that's already charging towards you at greater distance compared to the G20? G40 's advantage is the longer barrel for better kill accuracy, and a higher round capacity for multiple hits before Mr. Bear tears us to pieces.
Corvette Z06 I think the model 20 & 40 have the same capacity. The model 29 has less. If not going to put an after market sight on the 40, then not much advantage and a disadvantage is more kick with the model 40 so a little harder to get back on target for subsequent shots if you're being charged.
Does that work reliably? I've got a G20 but was thinking about selling it to get a G40. If I can just slap a G40 in barrel in the G20 that would make things much easier for me!!
Would it be possible to buy the Glock 20 and just the slide and barrel for the 40? If the frames are the same I don't see how the 40 slide works with that "extra" piece hanging under the front slide.
It is feasible, though possibly not practical. The "extra piece" is actually smaller then the dust cover (the part of the frame at the bottom under it) and slides neatly inside of it as the gun cycles. One of our viewers did indicated (in one of the comments on this video) that he tried this and the components hung up on each other, I just now tried it with my two Gen 4s (40 is only available in the Gen 4 but the 20 is available in older Gens) and it cycled perfectly (dry cycling - not actual firing) So, though it is feasible (at least between Gen 4s) it may not be practical as the cost of buying the "upper" components would likely approach the cost of a new pistol. This is especially true if you are a GSSF member or LEO and have access to the discounts offered to those two groups on the complete pistols.
Hammer Striker Thanks for replying. I have found that Glock will not just sell a G40 slide. I decided on the Glock 20. The only option available to me would be a "Lone Wolf"(Alpha Wolf) extended barrel and slide. I spoke to a Lone Wolf rep today. He told me a barrel replacement is available for a G20 gen4 but not a slide. Slides should be available next year.
I went with the DPM uncaptured recoil rod system heavy spring that comes in the package for all four of my Glocks so they could shoot tthe hottest ammo. No problems with any of them.
I wanted to make sure mine would go through the refrigerator across the street and hit point so I added a 9.5 barrel to it. It hits the mark :-) with a zest.
Thats extremely surprising that the 20 has less felt recoil than the 40 considering in revolvers typically a longer barrel gives way to less felt recoil. Very interesting.
It's because it's a slide action. Longer slide. Longer action. Revolvers don't have that issue. I will say that the longer slide of the 40 makes you slow down a small bit when firing rapidly because you have to wait for the action so I find that the longer slide keeps me on target better
So from your review, it looks like the 20 would be more versatile. How much more pressure and velocity are you gaining from the 40? I am comparing for Fly Fishing in Bear Country.
Not enough to matter, when I chrono'd them it was 25-50fps depending upon the ammo. The greater allure of the 40 is being optic-ready so you can put a micro red-dot on it. That, in my opinion, is more significant since the bear probably will not make an appointment to meet you in the parking lot at a particular time. You will be in an "oh F...! " type scenario and the fast acquisition will help your cause greatly. If you think you will need it in a hurry and need to get one where it counts fast, the 40 being optic-ready may make a good choice, that is why I take it boar hunting (which also tends to come with bears and cats). Now, if you are going up North where the bears tend to be of the grizzly persuasion, you may want to look at our Ruger .454 Casull review. A 10mm may give a big griz something to ponder over while he is having a snack, the .454 will send him on his way for sure.
Btw - anything short of a large grizzly in North America can be easily seen to by the 20 or 40 (or even the 29) with Underwood 200gr FMJ. If you are going to be someplace dealing with 2 legged critters where there may be no-shoots around then go with the 200gr XTP (Hollow Point) to ensure the round starts and finishes with the baddie.
not to criticize, but being familiar with, and carrying the 10mm during certain instances where innocents are around, and having seen/done ballistic gel testing. I do NOT recommend the 200gr in ANY ammo. It gets over 24" bare ballistic gel penetration and 23" penetration through 3 heavy layers of coat and gel. This would result in over penetration and the risk of hitting an innocent. In my opinion, and for what little it's worth, the 155gr loads do the best as they get 13" bare gel penetration and 8" 3 layer penetration, additionally they wind up expanding to 2.5 times their original size. (i.e. started at .400 and ended as .681" diameter per calipers). this causes massive bleeding (so i've been told) and greatly reduces the risk of a punch through. while 200gr dropping someone sounds great you and your subscriber should consider that you are accountable in a court of law (both criminal and civil) for every single round and where it ends up. Just trying to help. great video and i enjoyed it very much. should you decide to try gel testing you might want to consider Clear Ballistics for FBI spec. ballistic gel blocks. That's what i used during my testing of various weights and loads of 10mm factory ammo.
Overpenetration risk is the reason I choose the XTP bullet for non-hunting use. You are correct that the FMJ and JHP not intended for high velocity will get ridiculous penetration, which is great if you are dealing with a hard headed hog or fat old bear out in the woods. Not so great where there are innocents around. The XTP, on the other hand, is specifically designed for these conditions and consistently comes in at around 16". With 12-18 being the commonly quoted FBI Penetration range, it drops in just above the middle of the range. It will properly expend even when encountering heavy clothing that can clog some lesser JHP rounds, dumping a massive amount of energy in the process. I will load the one that is appropriate for where I am going to go.
I just bought the G40 over the weekend. Was a little unsure about it because I've never shot a 10mm, or any pistol of that caliber before. All I have to say is that I absolutely love it! Put 100 rounds through it over the course of about an hour 15. Would have kept shooting, but was starting to get low on ammo and we were ready to get out of there. It's a very smooth shooting hand cannon
I appendix carry the glock 40 for the looks
Is that a glock youre carrying or....?
I legitimately tried to conceal a G40, I quickly gave up on that lol.
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@@sofloflow i just sling it in my bandoleer.
I were suits, so that's how i open carry.
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G40 , took a hog two weeks ago, major accuracy improvement with red dot for me. Dumped the hog one shot
I couldn’t decide, so I bought the 20, 29 and 40! I carry all three with no problems concealing!
Might as well get the G41 and put the KKM 10 mm barrel in it for $165.00. That way you'll have four Glock pistols in that caliber. My G41 runs great with that barrel.
Can I ask, how hard is it to conceal the 40? Like, would I be able to wear a r shirt lol
@@snipesmcfreely5879 I conceal it, how I do it is with a slightly baggy t-shirt and sweats/cargo pants. I keep it at 12 o'clock, parallel with my genitals. I use a ratcheting belt system like Nexbelt. When you are walking, tighten it, when you are sitting, loosen it (you can do this very discreetly by just pressing the loosen button) so it hangs a little off your body and doesn't poke your genitals. You don't feel it when you're sitting at all if you loosen it a little and tighten when you stand.
Btw, the baggy t-shirt and pants is not unique to the Glock 40. The grip is normal sized, the only different thing about the gun is the barrel length and I solved that with the ratcheting belt and 12:00. You can conceal all the 10mm just like how you would conceal any other gun.
Now get a Kriss Vector 10mm carbine, which takes Glock standard 10mm mages!
Good presentation! I have both and wouldn't part with either. They just fill different niches. The 20 is all purpose: range, hiking, home defense, car gun, etc. The 40 is a dedicated precision target gun/hunting gun. The 40 is really more for shooting scenarios where you can really take your time and focus intently on the sights. They're both winners!
Thank you. I carry the 40 in the woods as a defense against dangerous game, where you definitely won't have time to focus on the sights, that is why it is perfect in my case for a red-dot.
I bought the glock 40 because really the only downside is concealablity. Concealability doesn't matter to me in a gun like these
Great review! I just picked up a new G20 yesterday. My wife and I are heading up to Glacier National Park in Montana and I wanted something for bear defense besides bear spray. At first I was thinking I would just pack my Remington 870 Tactical pump with 00 buckshot and slugs but I don’t want to carry a heavy shotgun the whole trip so hopefully the new G20 will alleviate that. I’ll carry the G20 and my wife can carry the bear spray, maybe my Gen 5 Glock 17 as well.
In my neck of the woods, the 20s sit around a bit, but the 40s, whenever they come up at our local dealer, gets sold in the blink of an eye........no sitting around for the 40. They call it the Glockzilla.
Longer sight radius and about 100 FPS extra velocity depending on the loading.
Surprised about the 40 weighing less. Good review.
Bad guy hiding behind the refrigerator in the neighbors house across the street 😂
Not sure anyone should be taking that shot. But funny.
I wanted to make sure it would go through the refrigerator and still hit the target on point so I put a 9.5 barrel on mine :-) it will hit the mark...
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9 for the hood, 10 for the woods
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Mello Man that’s what I’m talking bout
Shit I use the 10 for the hood too😂😂
I keep the 10 for slangin iron
Got it backwards homeboy
Excellent comparison and review of each Glock 10mm model, and enjoyed the humorous comments too! Thanks!!
Thank you.
Thanks. This is the clearest, most concise discussion of a firearms issue I've heard yet. I look forward to hearing your other presentations.
Thank you.
Thank you for the price and the details. You narrowed down my choice to the G40.
Couldn't decide, bought both!
Great vid! Just a note though: Gen 4 guns have the RTF4 texture, and not the RTF2. That texture was more aggressive, and only came on a limited number of Gen 3 G19/23 and 17/22's (the ones with the crescent moon shaped rear slide serrations).
I have the glock 20 gen4 & glock 20 sf & I love them both...gonna get a 29 & just may get the 40...I love 10mm.
The G-20 is for the bad guy behind the refigerator.
The G-40 is for the bad guy hiding behind the refrigerator in the neighbor's house across the street. lmao!
I love my G-20 however I can only effectively conceal carry this firearm at the 6 o'clock position due to the size.
Dara Holsters makes an impressive IWB rig for this application.
The G-20 is definitely getting on the edge of something you can easily conceal. The G-29 is relatively easy to conceal and provides close to the same power with slightly lower capacity. I use the 20 or 40 when I am in the woods and have no need to conceal, and the 29 when I need to blend in.
Am I the only one that laughed after reading this part and making a mental picture. Haha "I love my G-20 however I can only effectively conceal carry this firearm at the 6 o'clock position due to size".
Hammer Striker The 20 with a shorter barrel than the 40, you said that less powder burns and you loose some power. If you step down to an even shorter barrel with the 29 you will loose even more power due to un burnt powder. At that point wouldn’t it be a better choice to just carry a 40 S&W like the 23 or 27?
lmao, imagine the cops or your wife; is that a gun in your pants or you just happy to see me? XD
We're talking a couple hundred feet per second more...not a ton difference in all reality
“The 20 is good for a bad guy hiding behind the refrigerator, and the 40 is good for a bad guy hiding behind the refrigerator in the neighbors house across the street”
Love that Shit
So interesting that the Glock 20 is actually heavier than the Glock 40. Thanks for sharing that tidbit.
We found that very surprising as well, until I considered that most would end up with a red-dot and they would have to have done some lightening of the slide to tolerate the extra mass of having a red-dot mounted on it.
The Glock 20 is NOT heavier than the 40 MOS !
It states right on Glock's website that the 40 MOS with empty magazine weighs 35.45 oz and the Glock 20 with empty magazine weighs 30.69 oz
You must have compared the weight of the Glock 40 MOS without a magazine to the Glock 20 with a magazine.
Besides, I own both the Glock 20 and Glock 40 MOS and weighed both on my scale.
@@Sagittariustoo - I remember reading up on both these models on the Glock website years ago and seeing those weight numbers he mentions in the video. I didn't believe it. Must've been a typo. Well the Glock site has been updated since then, and the official numbers match yours now.
I have both. The 40 is definitely heavier
Glock 40 is heavier, go look at the glock website
I own the Glock 20, I absolutely love shooting that beast
Having a hard time deciding between these two... I own a 19, 21 and 48, so I really don't need it for conceal. Think I'm leaning towards the 40.
I was thinking the same thing, but after thinking about it I thought that even with my other options I will still want to carry the 10mm and will end up carrying the 40 or the 20 so I am thinking I will get the 20.
Get both brother
G40 lighter ? As per Glock stats, the G40 is 35.45 oz and the G20 is 30.69 oz........40 being roughly 5 oz heavier than the 20. This makes sense, because the 40 has a longer barrel.
The glock website has a lot of stats wrong
I carry my Glock 40 MOS with a Trijicon RMR at apendix carry all the time. Fits nicely. I'm a trim 180 lbs and 6' tall. I use a MIC holster. Which is a clip that goes over the trigger guard. Ive also done a caliber conversion to 9x25 Dillon.
anthony Haynes Have you found any other holsters, other than chest rigs, to fit the 40? I have been looking and can't find anything...Thanks.
Thank you for video. Decided on Glock 20 because of recoil info you provided.
I have the best of both worlds, a Glock 20 and an extended 6in Glock factory barrel for it, $160. This effectively converts a Glock 20 into a 40, but much better balanced. You could also get a Glock 40 slide assembly for the Glock 20 frame.
where would you say are some of the best places to order that from? I'm familiar with psa and buds and all the decent sites but haven't seen what you suggested. I've been leaning towards the 40 but only for it's sole benefits. if I could get the 20 and have the option to make it like a 40, it'd be like the grass is greener on both sides
@@hravistester4154 hey Harvey, what’d you end up going with? Finding a 40 has been a task but the 20s are everywhere (and $200 cheaper). Would love to use that saved money on a barrel if that makes it equal or better than the 40
@@mulliano420 KKM barrel
Wolf makes a 30 rd 10mm glock mag.
SGM makes them. wolf sells them on their website. Reviews say they explode when dropped when loaded and there is issues with reliability. Still worth trying one for $20 i guess. KRISS also makes an extension for 33 rounds.
@@Kevinj36541 ...I have the smg....It has feeding issues...I think it's from having it fully stacked all the time....I take the bullets out sometimes for a day or 2 to let the spring get a break...I'm scared to just keep it in all the time bc I don't want to be in a situation & know I have the superior weapon & then...click!!!!...I don't think bads will let me have time out for a sec....yes/no???
I handled a G20 today and compared it to my carry G19 and there is no god damn way your going to conceal carry that.
I have a similar sized 9mm I carry concealed in a bra holster.
My dad's 40sw is even bigger and he carries it waistband or vest depending on what he's wearing that day.
I have a 21 gen 4 with a 10mm oem barrel and extractor so I can go back and forth between 45 ACP & 10
BaronAguon nope unless you want to change it you can but it functions just fine.
I went with the G40 on chest holster with a Holosun SCS that allows cowitness with the factory sights. Speaking of which, mine came with adjustable rear sight. I changed the front sight for a Tritium / fiber optic I had laying around too.
Not buying one until the glock 40 is a standard 40 round mag
15 rounds is a lot for 10mm, that’s one less than my 40 so I’m probably getting the glock 40
You can get the kriss 33 round mags
40rnds? That's too much. 30rnds is much better.
I went with the glock 40 just because we have a lot of bears here on Kodiak island and needed all the power I could get. It has the same ballistics as a 357 and the holds clips holds 15 + 1, also I got a 30 rounds clip just in case but I would have the glock 10mm over 44 that only has 6 shots.. it’s all about well placing your shots and I love how fast and accurate I can shoot my glock 40 and able to reload quick as well. It’s a badass pistol for sure. Love the video great Info 👍.
Clips? Come on man?
Magazine not clip dude. Also 10mm is considerably more powerful than .357 mag
I've carried the g20 for yrs when "boondockin" style camping (using generator for power supply) up in N Mn . Blk bear, coyote and wolf territories . Only used once to pop off a warning shot at whatever was sniffing around the popup at night . Carry it fully covered in a dropleg holster with inside button release . I customized a safari land dropleg with water resistant material and 2-3x'd stitching .
Longer barreled G40 is more than a quarter pound heavier than G20. It's 4.77 oz heavier without magazine. So I think you were wrong about the weight. G40 is 32.28 oz without magazine and G20 is 27.51 oz without magazine. Thanks.
*The video showing the glock is very good, I know the Glock systems very well when I was young and as a gunsmith that I am, I modified many Glocks in automatics like the Glock 18 always with government authorizations. Regards.*
Thank you.
Gen four or newer are better than the old ones. I had a Gen one or two G20 and part of the plastic on the inside broke on me from the recoil. The inner/outer slide spring works much better, and recoils better than the old style. Guess that's why Glock changed the spring on all their guns now.
Thanks for such good information it was simple and strait to the point, for some one like me who is looking for perfection when I go mountain biking out in the woods all by my lonesome, thank you very much appreciate you
Thank you. These are perfect for that use, where you might encounter something meaner than you are that needs to be discouraged.
great video, I bought my rock island 10mm before I ever looked at a glock. I shoot a fair amount of that underwood ammo its good stuff.
Thank-you. I have not yet had an opportunity to try a Rock Island but I have heard good things about them. For just range fun - the Armscor Precision 10mm is hotter than other range ammo, not quite Underwood territory but a lot cheaper.
their 9mm/.22tcm pistol I have also its impressive! tcm ammo is expensive but its nice to have a 5" 1911 9mm
Both my Kimber SS Target II and Glock 29 like the Armscor ammo. Thats saying something when a Kimber during the break-in period spits it reliably.
I love underwood ammo!! It's less expensive than buffalo bore, they're better about deliveries and alot of it is hotter!!
Glock 40 and a ak74 please sir
thank you for the info. i went with a g40 for the bear defense while backpacking
Good choice - I use my G40 whenever I am in the woods. If I happened to be in griz territory I would likely take my Ruger Super Redhawk .454 along as well.
@@HammerStriker I carry the 10mm and my fianceé has bear spray so I think we are pretty safe! Thanks for the reply
The weight is wrong on the 40 MOS. It's a mistake printed on the Glock website.My manual states that the weight is over 35 ozs , there is also a video ( I forget by who ) , that shows a guy weighing both of them & the 40 MOS is indeed over 35 ozs & heavier than the 20 by around 5 ozs. These are all unloaded weights with empty magazine installed.
I don't have a G20 to check but the G40 just scaled 35.7oz on a good digital scale and 35.1 on a spring balance postal scale. This is with an empty factory mag and no optic.
I carry a g29sf with 4.25 in kkm barrel. love it! go go 10mm
Nice setup, I really like 10mm as you might be able to tell.
Hammer Striker heck yes and you got it right ab ammo, underwood for serious, armscor for round count. check out the mech tech carbine if you haven't already. pushing 10mm over 1000 ftlbs. ..
I carry a 29SF with stock barrel and Hornady Critical Duty on the street. 4.6" Barrel, x-grip on a G20 mag and Underwood 200gr XTPs around home and in the woods. Sometimes, I may carry it with the extended barrel OWB just to get strange looks lol
@@HammerStriker for the price what is the better deal? Thanks for the video
G40 for asteroids protection quite handy these days.
Putting an aftermarket barrel and muzzle brake on the,G40 takes alot of the recoil out of this gun but if they are not high power loads they don't cycle the slide well with it on.
Take a look at Underwood Ammo. Very close in cost to Federal or other "range ammo" but at the hot end of the scale (very hot in some cases). Their ammo should have no problem at all cycling your setup, and it is very high quality consistent ammo. They often run Free Shipping events (usually only lasting a day or two).
At the cheaper end of the scale, I have found Armscor Precision to be fairly hot and can be had very inexpensively. You may want to try a box before committing to it just to be sure.
Carry a G20 on daily base, i still waiting desperatly for a 10mm Glock sized between the G29 and the G20. I would call it G49.
Making a Glock 40 pcc in either a Flux Defense or Recover tactical brace. Perfect for off-body carry in a bag or sling. I normally carry a LCP Max for conceal carry.
Those fliers always kill your grouping (targets at the end of the vid)
Yeah, we usually put the segments where we shoot fast or one-handed (which will tend to produce more fliers) at the end because we are demonstrating a different aspect of the gun. The opening segment is usually our attempt to show the best we can do with that particular gun.
You got the weights wrong on the glock 40, its 35.45 oz, unloaded, vs the glock 20 at 30.69 oz unloaded.
I love the 10mm kick
No "kick" at all!
Been looking to buy a model 20
10mm for over one year. When I ask the gun stores to get me one they just laugh .
They were often hard to find even before things got messy.
these guns remind me of my G34. Was my first glock and appendix carried it, tried to conceal but it printed so bad 😂 looks to be about in between the size of the 20 and 40
just a heads up I the frames are not co.pletely the same. the 20 slide will fit and function on the 40 frame but not vise versa due to the larger dust cover on the 40 slide. It hits on the 20 frame frame due to it now being releived for it. same with say a 17 and 34 same situation.
A 34 slide will work on a 17 frame, I've tried with my 35 and 17.
I own a G40 and reload for it. I still use Iron sights on mine. 7.6 gr of Power Pistol can give me 10050 fps for a 180 bullet. Sweet shooting load.
Um Gen 4s do not have RTF2. Some Gen 3s had RTF2. The rough texture on the Gen 4s is very different than RTF2.
Get the +2 Pearce grip extensions for 17+1 or the Kriss mag extension for the .45acp for a total of 30 some rounds if you don't think 15+1 isn't going to work.
I have both + I can put the KKM 10 mm barrel I purchased into my G41 which shoots great with this barrel.
Dude, you got some nice groups.
Thank you.
That's a mighty big shotgun shell. One hell of a payload I bet..
Glock 40 MOS is a Bad MamaJama and I own one ! Love this Gun ! I also have the Glock 29 and I CCW that sucka ! 🤩 💥
Do suppressor sights actually still even co-witness?
It all depends upon the specific combination of red-dot and suppressor sights.
Suppressor sights come in different heights as well as do red-dots. Researching who has already done it on a particular gun and can indicate a combination of sights/red-dot that works.
The only ones that reliably co-witness without any effort on your part are "packages" assembled by a manufacturer when the gun comes with the sights and red-dot chosen and pre-installed by the manufacturer.
I have both the 40 is snappier than the 20 which is more of a push
ladies just get the 460 rowland conversion kit, you can shoot. 45 ACP, 45+P, 45 Super, 450 S.M.C and 460 Rowland. Nuff said.
Manuel Silva had the 460 in my colt commander, about 10yrs ago. Sold it, now that in this longslide might be a bit better.
I was going to go with the model 40 prior to seeing this video, but think the model 20 will work better for me, as i won't be using it for hunting wildlife.
Good review.
Thank you. The 20 is a great all-around choice. The 40 is more optimal for hunting and competition, or if you just have to have the biggest Glock there is.
Hammer, he said the 20 would do the same thing. Hunting deep in the woods, we need space. Every little bit helps. I'm going with the 20.
I have a 40.1st glock I ever owned. I love it. It's lighter than it looks. I want a 20 with a micro kit and a 29 for concealed carry.
I have a G20 paid $570 out the door with ammo
Man, you know your GLOCK! Thank you.
Great video, It helped me lot to narrow down my choice to buy 10 mm Glock. I may buy Glock 20
Fantastic review. Subbed! I'm goin with the G40
Thank you. You will enjoy the G40, even more so if you slap a micro red dot on it.
Hammer Striker Well, now I'm torn between the G40 and a G21 460 Rowland!
The Rowland is cool but impractical. Ammo is expensive and hard to find and the muzzle brake/ compensator somewhat defeats the tool-less maintenance capabilities of the Glock.
If your potential quarry/threat is black bear or anything smaller the 10mm will see to it nicely. If griz or polar bear is in your sights, look at something with a wheel loaded with .454/.460/.500.
Might I suggest a lone wolf barrel/brake combo for the g40.
the difference is availability I've seen a dozen g20s in my local area in the last 4 years, but I've only seen one g40. at the time I couldn't afford it :'(
I bought the 20 because I couldn’t find the 40 . Last week I found a 40 so I got it
subscribed for your love of the 10mm
Thank-you. The 10mm is a great round and it is flexible enough to go from concealed carry to the deep woods (sometimes even in the same pistol).
Are the mags interchangeable on these?
Yes, they both use the same mags.
Douglas Phillips ....or 10 round mags for states that require same for hunting deer.
very helpful and informative!
Very Good Review, Thanks
Thank-you.
Yea I'm going to try some but got to order no where around here has hot 10mm.
G20 it was about 1200 fps, and in the G40, it's about 1300 fps, so about a 100fps gain, which is not insignificant.
What is more Wicked? Underwood or Buffalo Bore?
Underwood, without a doubt. Both make a 220gr hardcasts that are equal. For the other loads, Underwood in the same weight is noticeably more powerful.
Ex: 200 gr fmj - Underwood ( 1250fps/694 ft-lb) Buffalo (1200fps/639 ft-lb).
I know that Buffalo Bore makes good ammo, but when it comes to power and diversity of loads available, Underwood pulls ahead.
I will run various range ammos when having fun, but when I mean business it is always Underwood in the mag.
Thank you for the quick response.
I shoot both and love both but I’d give buffalo bore the slight edge only because I can pick them up locally around and the 180gr @1350fps and 728@the muzzle is hard to beat in a jhp. Just my opinion.
Buffy Bore. Pretty sure. 180 @ 1350-1400fps 730ft lbs. Both are excellent.
Underwood Speer GoldDot BJHP 155gr 1500fps/774lb-ft or 135gr 1600fps/767lb-ft
I like your thinking buy em both you got a new sub
My preferred option is a G20 with an aftermarket 6 inch barrel. The extra weight is good for handling recoil, and the ballistics are identical to the G40 with it's 6 inch barrel. I am a big man (5' 11" and 205 lbs). I laughed when he said the G20 was an inside the waistband carry gun. You have to be kidding. Maybe a G29 is concealable, but not the butt of the G20. The largest gun I carried concealed is a G26 in the winter. Summer in Houston is too hot for even the G26.
Maybe for you it doesn't work. I regularly carry a glock 21 year round and I am planning to get a glock 20 for concealed carry.
“This (G40) will definitely take care of a bear, and would really give a black bear a bad day, and definitely take care of a hog; and this (G20) would accomplish the same thing.”
As it happens, that is exactly what I am shopping for - a bear gun. Specifically, a black bear gun, for protection out in the woods, where black bears and mountain lions are our only dangerous predators. I won't be doing any hunting with it. So, do I understand you correctly, that the G20 would be materially as effective for that purpose as a G40? I mean, will the shorter barrel result in a close enough muzzle velocity to do the job, if I ever need it to? I would really like to be able to conceal it, rather than have to change guns for hiking in the woods vs. going to town, etc. But I don't want to sacrifice too much in the way of bear stopping power, either. I'm leaning G20. Thanks, if you are still monitoring comments.
Either gun would be equally effective for the threats that you are concerned with. The muzzle velocity difference would not be enough to make a discernible difference. The real advantage that the G40 has is the ability to put a red-dot on it from the factory.
Thanks!
Great comment and question. Correct me if my logic is wrong here...wouldn't the G40 be more advantageous for an irrate bear that's already charging towards you at greater distance compared to the G20? G40 's advantage is the longer barrel for better kill accuracy, and a higher round capacity for multiple hits before Mr. Bear tears us to pieces.
Corvette Z06 I think the model 20 & 40 have the same capacity. The model 29 has less. If not going to put an after market sight on the 40, then not much advantage and a disadvantage is more kick with the model 40 so a little harder to get back on target for subsequent shots if you're being charged.
From strictly a visual standpoint I prefer the G20. Then I go from there.....
The Glock 40 is 4.8 ounces heavier than the Glock 20
NOT TRUE!
Not according to this video.
@@gullybop1695 go to the Glock website.
@@frankiethefrog1752 👍👍
So that explains why I cannot find a pocket holster for a G20!
Hold your horses dude. Did you say two of the baddest glock is the 10mm. I'm dam sure you know nothing about the glock 33 32 31...
Thank you so much for this video.
is the 20L the same length barrel as the G40?
Beretta or a Glock decisions decisions
Again good information thanks
Thank you.
Glock 20 for woods defense and EDC and 40 for hunting hogs and deer
i gots me a glock 20 but i also ordered a kkm g40 match barrel when i want to shoot hot loads
Does that work reliably? I've got a G20 but was thinking about selling it to get a G40. If I can just slap a G40 in barrel in the G20 that would make things much easier for me!!
Lol hot loads
Would it be possible to buy the Glock 20
and just the slide and barrel for the 40? If the frames are the same I don't see how the 40 slide works with that "extra" piece hanging under the front slide.
It is feasible, though possibly not practical.
The "extra piece" is actually smaller then the dust cover (the part of the frame at the bottom under it) and slides neatly inside of it as the gun cycles.
One of our viewers did indicated (in one of the comments on this video) that he tried this and the components hung up on each other, I just now tried it with my two Gen 4s (40 is only available in the Gen 4 but the 20 is available in older Gens) and it cycled perfectly (dry cycling - not actual firing)
So, though it is feasible (at least between Gen 4s) it may not be practical as the cost of buying the "upper" components would likely approach the cost of a new pistol. This is especially true if you are a GSSF member or LEO and have access to the discounts offered to those two groups on the complete pistols.
Hammer Striker
Thanks for replying. I have found that Glock will not just sell a G40 slide. I decided on the Glock 20. The only option available to me would be a "Lone Wolf"(Alpha Wolf) extended barrel and slide. I spoke to a Lone Wolf rep today. He told me a barrel replacement is available for a G20 gen4 but not a slide. Slides should be available next year.
You are welcome. Excellent choice, the G20 is a great gun.
Have you corno tested both with hot ammo? Bet there isn’t much more than 85 fps difference. Great video
Thank you. We did a chrono test on 10mm at one time - probably need to redo it with the large assortment of 10's around now.
I go gen3 on 10mm because it is easier to use varying spring weight to tune it for super hot loads without openning the breech too early.
I went with the DPM uncaptured recoil rod system heavy spring that comes in the package for all four of my Glocks so they could shoot tthe hottest ammo. No problems with any of them.
Why do people in videos put some object in the trigger area?
I wanted to make sure mine would go through the refrigerator across the street and hit point so I added a 9.5 barrel to it. It hits the mark :-) with a zest.
Could you put a 40 slide on a 20 frame and if yes would it work?
Thank you!
You did not mention the mag capacity of both
Thats extremely surprising that the 20 has less felt recoil than the 40 considering in revolvers typically a longer barrel gives way to less felt recoil. Very interesting.
It's because it's a slide action. Longer slide. Longer action. Revolvers don't have that issue. I will say that the longer slide of the 40 makes you slow down a small bit when firing rapidly because you have to wait for the action so I find that the longer slide keeps me on target better
So from your review, it looks like the 20 would be more versatile. How much more pressure and velocity are you gaining from the 40? I am comparing for Fly Fishing in Bear Country.
Not enough to matter, when I chrono'd them it was 25-50fps depending upon the ammo. The greater allure of the 40 is being optic-ready so you can put a micro red-dot on it. That, in my opinion, is more significant since the bear probably will not make an appointment to meet you in the parking lot at a particular time. You will be in an "oh F...! " type scenario and the fast acquisition will help your cause greatly. If you think you will need it in a hurry and need to get one where it counts fast, the 40 being optic-ready may make a good choice, that is why I take it boar hunting (which also tends to come with bears and cats).
Now, if you are going up North where the bears tend to be of the grizzly persuasion, you may want to look at our Ruger .454 Casull review. A 10mm may give a big griz something to ponder over while he is having a snack, the .454 will send him on his way for sure.
Btw - anything short of a large grizzly in North America can be easily seen to by the 20 or 40 (or even the 29) with Underwood 200gr FMJ. If you are going to be someplace dealing with 2 legged critters where there may be no-shoots around then go with the 200gr XTP (Hollow Point) to ensure the round starts and finishes with the baddie.
not to criticize, but being familiar with, and carrying the 10mm during certain instances where innocents are around, and having seen/done ballistic gel testing. I do NOT recommend the 200gr in ANY ammo. It gets over 24" bare ballistic gel penetration and 23" penetration through 3 heavy layers of coat and gel. This would result in over penetration and the risk of hitting an innocent. In my opinion, and for what little it's worth, the 155gr loads do the best as they get 13" bare gel penetration and 8" 3 layer penetration, additionally they wind up expanding to 2.5 times their original size. (i.e. started at .400 and ended as .681" diameter per calipers). this causes massive bleeding (so i've been told) and greatly reduces the risk of a punch through. while 200gr dropping someone sounds great you and your subscriber should consider that you are accountable in a court of law (both criminal and civil) for every single round and where it ends up. Just trying to help. great video and i enjoyed it very much. should you decide to try gel testing you might want to consider Clear Ballistics for FBI spec. ballistic gel blocks. That's what i used during my testing of various weights and loads of 10mm factory ammo.
Valid point. If you only have one gun with you, then you can swap out loads from City to Field.
Overpenetration risk is the reason I choose the XTP bullet for non-hunting use.
You are correct that the FMJ and JHP not intended for high velocity will get ridiculous penetration, which is great if you are dealing with a hard headed hog or fat old bear out in the woods. Not so great where there are innocents around.
The XTP, on the other hand, is specifically designed for these conditions and consistently comes in at around 16". With 12-18 being the commonly quoted FBI Penetration range, it drops in just above the middle of the range. It will properly expend even when encountering heavy clothing that can clog some lesser JHP rounds, dumping a massive amount of energy in the process.
I will load the one that is appropriate for where I am going to go.