I have a 350 on order, but it's the 7.3 Gas. The max conventional tow for mine is 19,500 which is a huge amount of weight. Fifth wheel is 21,400 max weight.
We just bought a 2023 F350 XLT Ultimate, 7.3 liter gasoline, crew cab, 8 foot bed, SRW. It’s a nice red. Every bell and whistle on the planet. Thanks JD. Always good info.
JD. Glad to see that Ford is willing to listen to their customers & respond accordingly. Every time I view one of your RV & trailer videos, one thought prevail. When will the RV/trailer manufacturers make the leap & install their own camera system? How many times you have driven a trailer or RV and wanted to know who was behind you? Whether through the truck’s internal hotspot or through outlet, this possible. Hoped you had a great Father’s Day.
This is what I needed! Was thinking about picking up a gooseneck trailer, but my already high commercial insurance will double with a gooseneck trailer. If I can safely pull 24,000 on a bumper pull, it will save me several thousand each year.
I love my 22 f350 long bed lariat ultimate, so much power I tow a bumper pull genesis toy hauler in Arizona and going up and down the mountains it does amazing can imagine having an extra hp and torque of the 23
I actually like the looks of these new Super Duty trucks as long as they have LED headlights. I like the design of the dash too. I have friends that are Ford guys though that don’t which is interesting to me. I feel like this much weight in an enclosed trailer is dually territory. Especially if you were on the Interstate with semi trucks passing you at 70 mph. I feel that trailer itself wasn’t too much for a SRW because it looked to be just about 28’ long, maybe 32’. I feel like once you get up around 34’ in trailers like that it’s a big ask for a SRW, and especially at this weight. So yeah. This one is a little more realistic than the other two in my opinion but I think this is definitely dually territory. Then you probably wouldn’t have noticed the trailer other than the extra weight.
I get the 12v car socket criticism, but there are adapters easily attainable to convert to a 120v Type A/B for $8-$30, and you have options to even use USB or get an inverter for more capability.
JD, good video. Have you noticed that it seems maybe Ford has stepped up their payload numbers for 1 ton trucks? What about 3/4 ton payload numbers on '23 models? And here's a thought, maybe do a tape measure test with your Brookstone on squat with a 3/4 vs 1 ton. I'd be curious to see what the difference would be.
This is the same truck, in the same color I ordered in October of last year and still has not been built yet. You need to ask them/Ford what is the holdup building the 2023 Super Duties.
I'm looking at these bumper tow numbers and wishing my trusty old 6.0 could haul that in the bed on a gooseneck. Damn the numbers on these new trucks is outrageous! I'll keep my cheap old trucks, and just not haul that heavy. Cheaper in the long run by a very long shot. I could put two engines in either of my old rigs for the cost of one failed cp4. Crazy money for these things these days, I'll never justify a $200k truck after finacing. Thats even more insane than the tow ratings.
4k in payload, on a srw truck? What tires are on it? Tires are the limiting factor for most srw trucks, so I'm wondering if they put some tires on that have a huge load rating on them.
@newenglandrvadventures the tires are absolutely the limiting factor due the fact that when you max out the payload hardly any of the weight goes to the front axle, it is almost all sitting on the back axle.
@@BillUtah thanks. The tire manufacturers must have upped their game over the last few years, I couldn't find 20" tires for my 2017 F350 srw to get that rating, so I traded it for an F450.
Man. These new Superduty’s are pretty damn slick. One thing hate about them is the integrated footsteps in the sides of the bed. They look terrible. I have a 2020 F350 loaded up Lariat with an 8’ bed and supercab 7.3 gas 4x4. Super damn nice pulling our travel trailer and our fishing kayaks. I wish my truck had 4.10 or 4.30 gears. But it does have a payload capacity of 4,330lbs. So I have a lot of room to go to a larger travel trailer in the future.
As far as what technology they could put in these HD Pickups a exhaust pyrometer to monitor exhaust temperature would be nice, a differential temperature sensor as well as the oil and transmission fluid temperature gauges and maybe a tire temperature sensor in addition to the air pressure sensor would be great, the more info you have and the sooner you have it the better
When did the term "bumper towing" come to mean towing with a conventional hitch? We used to call that "conventional towing". Bumper pulling used to mean towing with the ball on the bumper. It's called "bumper towing" because you're actually using the bumper.
Ford changed the reciever to mount at the through the bumper. Especially w an f150 and that is why they can only tow 5000lbs without weight distribution systems
I have been watching your last three videos on these Ford trucks and I think they are great trucks. But, I can hear the engine revving in the back ground why don't you put the camera on the the gauge cluster so we can see what the tach is doing . what are they revving at going down the big hill and the speed is it being held by the exhaust brake or is it increasing. just wondering. Great channel watch you all the time.
My question is these truck just keep uping the ratings but my hope is that they increase fuel economy and reliability. Kinda like gm’s approach that they aren’t chasing the highest numbers and give the consumer reliability and good fuel numbers wish ford and ram would follow suit but they won’t they’ll always try to one up each other
GM and Ford both build plenty of great trucks and plenty of garbage, neither has historically been any better than the other. Ford outperforms Ford in both capability and features though.
Did you get a chance to drive a 350 with the 7.3? Wondering what you think? Have one on the way and I think the payload is only 3800 lbs per the vin check so surprised the diesel has a 4k payload.
Did you order long or short bed? My 2022 F350 Lariat 7.3 crew cab long-bed has 4391 lbs payload per the door sticker. Heaviest load I’ve had in the bed so far was 3700lbs of concrete pavers over the axle with almost no squat.
Hi Jd, I have a 2022 f-350 SRW, Platinum with the power stroke with the short bed. Same as that King Ranch truck. My pay load sticker says I have 3,229 Lbs. That truck has 4,062. Over 800 pounds difference? How? Did ford change something? My GVWR is 11,500, what was that truck? If that truck has the same GVWR as mine, then that truck only weighs 7,438 pounds? 11,500 - 4062 = 7,438. Using the same math, my truck ways about 8,300 pounds. Something doesn't add up?
Nothing crazy about this, we pulled a 25,000 pound trailer on Reece hitch with a 97 F-250 460 5speed half way across the United States. 70 mph back in the day. My buddy pulled 56,000 on a 30k trailer from central Florida to northern Alabama. Had a cat dozer and xp95 kabota skid steer with a 4 door 4×4 F-450
I think ford has a good truck. That said alot of people are worried about the cp4 high pressure pump. Why can't ford recommend a lubricity additive ? Because that's the cause of failure in these pumps. The other thing ford needs to do is reintroduce the manual transmission for specific trim, with detuned gas and diesel engine options. Because no one offers this and people will buy because it's different. (Just like the small truck market) and last why no eco-boost engine in hd trucks?
Finding a manual small enough to fit in a pickup that is strong enough to handle even 80% of the power that these trucks are putting out is the problem. Even the G56 in the last Ram was rated at less than 700 lb ft.
@@BigMikeRobinsonFJBwho cares about how smOOTh it drives or not this machine is not meant for hauling ass people who buy these as daily drivers are idiots
An rv trailer is a sail wind moves it as a 43 year cdl driver you are towing it with pick up that's not safe when I started driving 335 Cummins with a 5 and 4 was normal and that was our trailer weight srw not safe it is getting insane out there
I own a 22 Tremor F350 with the 7.3 gasser and the Lariat Crew Cab SRW . After the purchase I bought a 16K pound boat. I know it’s illegal to tow my boat with my current truck (bumper or gooseneck). Assuming a 4000 pound trailer I would need an F450 gooseneck trailer to tow legally and not be sued in case of an accident? Also assuming I had the permit, oversized flags, license and insurance to tow it? I live in Florida. I just need opinions not looking to hold anyone legally responsible. I hate that I need this disclaimer so people will respond. Thanks. 😊
Just get an old single axle freightliner and you won’t have any trouble. Way cheaper if you just need a dedicated truck to pull a boat and way safer too
@@BTBRVReviews Another nice thought. Do more older trucks that most people can buy. I love your videos about towing setup and hitches but lose me (and a lot of others) on all these new vehicles. What my comment was about was how less costly vehicles don’t need to discredited because they got miles when in actuality they’re very capable
I have a 350 on order, but it's the 7.3 Gas. The max conventional tow for mine is 19,500 which is a huge amount of weight. Fifth wheel is 21,400 max weight.
Seriously awesome 🤩 what are the specs of the truck to have that max tow payload ?
I love my 2020 F250 HCTTP. 22,700lb GN/FW and 20,000lb bumper(3" receiver). These numbers are out there. Looking to go to a 23 F350 drw.
@@jonathanmayor3942 SRW 7.3 with 430 gears 4x4 Crew Cab with 6 3/4 box 159.8" wheel base 20 inch all terrain tires non Tremor.
Thanks 🙌👌
is that SRW? Did you get the 4.3 or 3.73 gears?
We just bought a 2023 F350 XLT Ultimate, 7.3 liter gasoline, crew cab, 8 foot bed, SRW. It’s a nice red. Every bell and whistle on the planet. Thanks JD. Always good info.
I love the trim of that F350, it's a King Ranch
JD. Glad to see that Ford is willing to listen to their customers & respond accordingly. Every time I view one of your RV & trailer videos, one thought prevail. When will the RV/trailer manufacturers make the leap & install their own camera system? How many times you have driven a trailer or RV and wanted to know who was behind you? Whether through the truck’s internal hotspot or through outlet, this possible. Hoped you had a great Father’s Day.
Did i hear crickets on the "what would you do differently" question?? 🤣
JD your truck is a 2017. That sounds so old. Mine is a '20 feels like time flies!!!!
JD seemed like he was in heaven!
Love your videos and love the new Fords! Thank you!!
I have a F350 DRW on order with the high output. I hope you have a video coming out soon for one like it!
There's nothing like a Ford truck 😎
This is what I needed! Was thinking about picking up a gooseneck trailer, but my already high commercial insurance will double with a gooseneck trailer. If I can safely pull 24,000 on a bumper pull, it will save me several thousand each year.
I love my 22 f350 long bed lariat ultimate, so much power I tow a bumper pull genesis toy hauler in Arizona and going up and down the mountains it does amazing can imagine having an extra hp and torque of the 23
Was that a little hummer at the 5:00 mark? I love hummingbirds. Keep kicking ass on the content. I know I'm behind. Lol
does Ford still use the cp4 fuel pump?
I really really like the '23 truck, I just wish I was in the financial spot right now to upgrade from my current F-350.
@@SurelyYewJest Just buy it if you need it ;)
I actually like the looks of these new Super Duty trucks as long as they have LED headlights. I like the design of the dash too. I have friends that are Ford guys though that don’t which is interesting to me.
I feel like this much weight in an enclosed trailer is dually territory. Especially if you were on the Interstate with semi trucks passing you at 70 mph. I feel that trailer itself wasn’t too much for a SRW because it looked to be just about 28’ long, maybe 32’. I feel like once you get up around 34’ in trailers like that it’s a big ask for a SRW, and especially at this weight.
So yeah. This one is a little more realistic than the other two in my opinion but I think this is definitely dually territory. Then you probably wouldn’t have noticed the trailer other than the extra weight.
I get the 12v car socket criticism, but there are adapters easily attainable to convert to a 120v Type A/B for $8-$30, and you have options to even use USB or get an inverter for more capability.
I've done this with my Toyota Camry, no big deal.
Guessing load in this trailer is bias over trailer wheels?
All of it!
and with that triple axle, it’s all over the trailer wheels.
JD, good video. Have you noticed that it seems maybe Ford has stepped up their payload numbers for 1 ton trucks? What about 3/4 ton payload numbers on '23 models? And here's a thought, maybe do a tape measure test with your Brookstone on squat with a 3/4 vs 1 ton. I'd be curious to see what the difference would be.
This is the same truck, in the same color I ordered in October of last year and still has not been built yet. You need to ask them/Ford what is the holdup building the 2023 Super Duties.
Brandon’s America: supply shortages, chip shortages, wu flu, backed up on orders due to aforementioned. Etc.
Spring rate and axle ratings are the main differences between the 250 and 350
They have the same axles, just the springs are different.
Only problem we had with 6.7 the def line froze during winter so couldnt refill it.
I'm looking at these bumper tow numbers and wishing my trusty old 6.0 could haul that in the bed on a gooseneck. Damn the numbers on these new trucks is outrageous!
I'll keep my cheap old trucks, and just not haul that heavy. Cheaper in the long run by a very long shot. I could put two engines in either of my old rigs for the cost of one failed cp4. Crazy money for these things these days, I'll never justify a $200k truck after finacing. Thats even more insane than the tow ratings.
Do you know the gooseneck tow rating of that particular truck?
24k with pickup truck brakes and electrics...just be careful, it won't stop as fast as you think! Been there many rimes...
4k in payload, on a srw truck? What tires are on it? Tires are the limiting factor for most srw trucks, so I'm wondering if they put some tires on that have a huge load rating on them.
E load tires are rated in the 3600-3800lb range. So technically you’re in the 15000+gvw. Tires aren’t the limiting factor.
@newenglandrvadventures the tires are absolutely the limiting factor due the fact that when you max out the payload hardly any of the weight goes to the front axle, it is almost all sitting on the back axle.
2023 Ram 3500 crew cab SRW LB 6.7 HO 4x4 with 4,162 payload. The tires have plenty of rating.
@@BillUtah thanks. The tire manufacturers must have upped their game over the last few years, I couldn't find 20" tires for my 2017 F350 srw to get that rating, so I traded it for an F450.
@@jeffclark4008my Ram has 18 inch tires so I don't know if the RAM trucks with different tire sizes have different payload capacity.
Take care
Not exactly bumper towing when you have a massive receiver hitch frame mounted 😂
Man. These new Superduty’s are pretty damn slick. One thing hate about them is the integrated footsteps in the sides of the bed. They look terrible. I have a 2020 F350 loaded up Lariat with an 8’ bed and supercab 7.3 gas 4x4. Super damn nice pulling our travel trailer and our fishing kayaks. I wish my truck had 4.10 or 4.30 gears. But it does have a payload capacity of 4,330lbs. So I have a lot of room to go to a larger travel trailer in the future.
As far as what technology they could put in these HD Pickups a exhaust pyrometer to monitor exhaust temperature would be nice, a differential temperature sensor as well as the oil and transmission fluid temperature gauges and maybe a tire temperature sensor in addition to the air pressure sensor would be great, the more info you have and the sooner you have it the better
When did the term "bumper towing" come to mean towing with a conventional hitch? We used to call that "conventional towing". Bumper pulling used to mean towing with the ball on the bumper. It's called "bumper towing" because you're actually using the bumper.
Everything you said is true. It's what they call it now since almost no new truck is designed to have a ball attached to the bumper.
Ford changed the reciever to mount at the through the bumper. Especially w an f150 and that is why they can only tow 5000lbs without weight distribution systems
That HO engine sounds very mean!
It sounds partly uncorked. I doubt it will be that loud off the showroom floor.
It absolutely is under load. @@SurelyYewJest
Did Ford do anything to the frame suspension?
2023 got a new frame and I imagine new suspension
Mildly modified frame.
No more death wobble!
@@zb6618no 😂
And reality is ihave had numerous friends with the 6.7 with head gasket issues not relable
My 3500 Ram towed 30k plus many times .
Your videos rule.
I have been watching your last three videos on these Ford trucks and I think they are great trucks. But, I can hear the engine revving in the back ground why don't you put the camera on the the gauge cluster so we can see what the tach is doing . what are they revving at going down the big hill and the speed is it being held by the exhaust brake or is it increasing. just wondering. Great channel watch you all the time.
They Showed it on TFL RUclips channel they do about 3 to 4 k RPM doing about 40mph
Can we discuss affordability sometimes? Great video btw
There’s no such thing left on the big 3 😂 that’s why we are now driving a Titan XD
Why doesn’t the new 2023-24 KR have rear LED Brake Lights???
Is Ford still using torque management in the 2023?
Lots of it
After watching TFL review of high output motor vs duramax that 1200 torque is overrated or the dura max is underrated
it's what happens when you tune your engine for peak performance vs tuning the engine for performance under real world conditions.
My question is these truck just keep uping the ratings but my hope is that they increase fuel economy and reliability. Kinda like gm’s approach that they aren’t chasing the highest numbers and give the consumer reliability and good fuel numbers wish ford and ram would follow suit but they won’t they’ll always try to one up each other
GM and Ford both build plenty of great trucks and plenty of garbage, neither has historically been any better than the other. Ford outperforms Ford in both capability and features though.
Also look at the gvwr on the door sticker that is the real capacity of a any véhicule
Well, that's the total weight when loaded. Capacity is what's remaining after Curb weight is deducted from GVWR
I'm saving up to get only 90 k to go 😅
I wish Ford’s engine break was more like the Cummins engine break
My only complaint. If you think the ford is bad the chevy you can't even notice if it's on.
Did you get a chance to drive a 350 with the 7.3? Wondering what you think? Have one on the way and I think the payload is only 3800 lbs per the vin check so surprised the diesel has a 4k payload.
You should have well over 4k payload.
Did you order long or short bed? My 2022 F350 Lariat 7.3 crew cab long-bed has 4391 lbs payload per the door sticker. Heaviest load I’ve had in the bed so far was 3700lbs of concrete pavers over the axle with almost no squat.
@@oldnumber6 actually I double checked, payload is 4089 lbs, gooseneck or fifth wheel tow 21290 lbs
@@tarheelquality that's a damn good payload. That's 200lbs more than my 21 Power Stroke
@@oldnumber6 just need it to show up now
When is Ford going to add Air Bags????
Where in the world are you driving with a stop sign every 1200 ft?
Hi Jd, I have a 2022 f-350 SRW, Platinum with the power stroke with the short bed. Same as that King Ranch truck. My pay load sticker says I have 3,229 Lbs. That truck has 4,062. Over 800 pounds difference? How? Did ford change something? My GVWR is 11,500, what was that truck? If that truck has the same GVWR as mine, then that truck only weighs 7,438 pounds? 11,500 - 4062 = 7,438. Using the same math, my truck ways about 8,300 pounds. Something doesn't add up?
I suspect the test truck is a Long bed. Also a 12k+ GVW
I would love for them to put this power train in the transit 350
Wheres Charlie?
Nothing crazy about this, we pulled a 25,000 pound trailer on Reece hitch with a 97 F-250 460 5speed half way across the United States. 70 mph back in the day. My buddy pulled 56,000 on a 30k trailer from central Florida to northern Alabama. Had a cat dozer and xp95 kabota skid steer with a 4 door 4×4 F-450
I think ford has a good truck.
That said alot of people are worried about the cp4 high pressure pump. Why can't ford recommend a lubricity additive ? Because that's the cause of failure in these pumps.
The other thing ford needs to do is reintroduce the manual transmission for specific trim, with detuned gas and diesel engine options. Because no one offers this and people will buy because it's different. (Just like the small truck market) and last why no eco-boost engine in hd trucks?
Finding a manual small enough to fit in a pickup that is strong enough to handle even 80% of the power that these trucks are putting out is the problem. Even the G56 in the last Ram was rated at less than 700 lb ft.
Better have a cdl to pull a 24k pound camper/trailer.
THIS NEW TRUCKS COMPLETELY CHANGED THE TOWING LOADS I WOULD NOT TRUST THIS NUMBERS.... STOPPING POWER IF BREAKS GOES OUT, MIGHT GET YOU KILLED.
So basically Ford has forced an addendum into every future video that concerns towables.
Why is there no traffic
Fords test track. Keeping every thing on their playground.
I wonder how the truck drives without towing. Is it as smooth as a 2023/24 GMC 2500 or 3500?
All of the reviews I’ve seen rank the new GM Hd’s as the smoothest riding and best interior.
@@BigMikeRobinsonFJBwho cares about how smOOTh it drives or not this machine is not meant for hauling ass people who buy these as daily drivers are idiots
prtce please
Why would you describe as a bumper tow, given that the truck is equipped with a proper tow hitch receiver assembly ? That's not a bumper tow.
Sorry, should have said "conventional trailer"
This is so much weight to put on the bumper lol
What is the reason for the great trailering you experienced?
Perfect Load balance and distribution of weight.
40.000 Lbs = 20 ton?
40,000lbs is 20 tons
@@BTBRVReviews ouhala iya bang
You need to drive the truck and zip it .
As well the stop signs are at specific spots STOP AT THEM . Not after them .
Where are the gas engine reviews ? Not everyone can afford a diesel
An rv trailer is a sail wind moves it as a 43 year cdl driver you are towing it with pick up that's not safe when I started driving 335 Cummins with a 5 and 4 was normal and that was our trailer weight srw not safe it is getting insane out there
How can someone possibly get $140,000 back out of a talk like that? Hot shot towing? They all rust away to nothing after about 10 years.
Along with the spring rate the F-350 has a positive wheel offset vs the F-250 which doesn’t.
I own a 22 Tremor F350 with the 7.3 gasser and the Lariat Crew Cab SRW . After the purchase I bought a 16K pound boat. I know it’s illegal to tow my boat with my current truck (bumper or gooseneck). Assuming a 4000 pound trailer I would need an F450 gooseneck trailer to tow legally and not be sued in case of an accident? Also assuming I had the permit, oversized flags, license and insurance to tow it? I live in Florida. I just need opinions not looking to hold anyone legally responsible. I hate that I need this disclaimer so people will respond. Thanks. 😊
Just get an old single axle freightliner and you won’t have any trouble. Way cheaper if you just need a dedicated truck to pull a boat and way safer too
Way to much on a bumper hitch. Won't end well eventually.
Please never make another video without showing the dash!
He he I got a truck with a gas motor that’ll out pull anything y’all had out there. Way way cheaper too
Nice thought
@@BTBRVReviews Another nice thought. Do more older trucks that most people can buy. I love your videos about towing setup and hitches but lose me (and a lot of others) on all these new vehicles. What my comment was about was how less costly vehicles don’t need to discredited because they got miles when in actuality they’re very capable