Is The Rebel 1100 REALLY As Slow As They Say?
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Rumor has it, the Rebel 1100 has a top speed of ONLY 100mph...I'm here to put that to the test! It's been "confirmed" for the DCT Honda Rebel 1100, but does the manual Rebel 1100 have the same top speed?
I also put the manual Rebel 1100's 0-60 times to the test! I do 0 to 60 runs for all 3 modes- Rain, Standard, and Sport. I didn't quite have the ideal space to do proper 0-60 runs, so they were done more to compare the power in the 3 modes than to test a true 0 to 60 time for the Rebel 1100. I of course could've shaved considerable time off if I were doing them from a dead stop in a straight line.
I hope you enjoyed and learned something! If/when a tuner is released for the new Honda Rebel 1100, will you be getting it for your bike?
UPDATE!- THE SPEED WOBBLE HAS BEEN FIXED!!! (And it was all my fault) Find out what caused it here!- • Video
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The problem with using your phone to measure things like 0-60 times is that pretty much all manufacturers use the same type of GPS module for their phones. These modules only update their position once per second leading to an inaccuracy of up to 1 second for any measurement you try to make.
Hey before you get rid of you 500, find a friend to ride it alongside this bike for a performance comparison!
I might try to. Not sure if I want to be ragging on a bike that no longer belongs to me though.
@@LifeOfBurch it's for the sake of science.
@@LifeOfBurch could you do a dide by side vs your buddy with the automatic? I'd much rather see the difference in manual vs automatic. Because that's actually a decision to make when buying an 1100
@@LifeOfBurchNo problem, it would be a couple random dudes the come along and offer to assist. It’s all on them. 😂😂
It's not the same 0 to 60 it's cuz when you make the turn to start you give more throttle in rain mode cuz you aren't scared but when you are in sport and turn you give less throttle cuz you don't wanna spin tires etc only way to know us straight line to take out rider unreliability
You are very incorrect my friend. Wide open throttle in any mode gives you all of the engines power. The only difference in the modes is throttle response but wide open in rain is the same amount of power as wide open in sport.... sport could be faster by hundreds of a second because it is more responsive. But there is no difference I power it has already been tested and proven on a dyno.
I owned a 2000 Suzuki GS800L a few years back which exhibited similar wobble at speeds exceeding 80mph+. It became much more stable at those same speeds after I installed a windshield. In fact, I had to start paying attention to my speedometer because the wind against my chest was no longer an indication of my speed, and I was exceeding 90mph too easily.
I did a preview about this bike having cheap components for the price. That being said, part of the problem might be the cell phon mount off to one side and in the wind.
Picked up the dct version last weekend. Hoping the Honda fairing and wind screen will put enough down force on the front end to help. The bike has been a blast so far almost 400 miles in 11 days
I’m planning on getting the DCT as well. They’re so nice
@@DataFil3 have several thousand miles on to now and still love the bike. Don't listen to anyone who tries to say the dct is a scooter. Pure ignorance
To fix the speed wobble get stiffer tires
Well, that was a bit crazy. I experiment on my channel, but sourdough isn't quite as dangerous ;)
A bit disappointing that it can't do more than 100 miles in a stable manner. Not that I've ever tried, but the 500 is supposed to top out at 115 mph.
Yep, I've taken mine to 115
Next video idea- Sourdough at 100mph! Hahah
@@LifeOfBurch watch the rise at the edge of your seat!
@@LifeOfBurch Hahaha, great idea 😂
@@williammackenzie115 That'll be a Le Man type deal. Sourdough is a slow riser, so to speak 😂
Honestly terrifying to see that speed wobble at speed. One slight moment at speed could send that into death by tank slapper.
That’s not wobble from the geometrics of the frame, that’s from him slapping the clutch back when shifting
That was a really interesting video. For the few throttle controls that I have experimented with, it was always in partial throttles that were doing something. The mindset is to ensure that you don't unintentionally open the throttle 20-30% too much in a sketchy situation. However, it is noted that a full-throttle is always intentional as you have a lot of twisting to go full throttle (to get you out of trouble, and sometimes into one ;-) ). So, the mode shouldn't be stopping you from opening the throttle completely. You can compare it to cruise control when you hit the break or when you try to accelerate where something demands to override the control.
Regarding the governed top speed, in my opinion, a cruiser is not really for going over 100mph but to enjoy the cruising, scenery, and the bike at the same time. Also, it's great that honda did acknowledge the limitation of the bike and kept the bike in the safe range. I wonder what would happen if people started to go 120 mph with those scary wobbles.
Thanks for sharing and keep up the good content!
Thank god someone said that. Modes dont add anything, they restrict you . Sort of like child locks.
Have the wobbles been adressed in 2022-23 models?
THE SPEED WOBBLE HAS BEEN FIXED!!! (And it was all my fault) Find out what caused it here!- ruclips.net/video/ThoLkjvmJw0/видео.html
THANK YOU to everyone who commented what you thought the issue was. I couldn’t have figured it out without you! 🙏🏻
Very happy to no it was such a simple and easy fix! Thanks for the follow up and thorough investigation!
You just did the phone again!
@@avsecb2739 it wasn’t the phone. I thought it was, but it never truly went away until I swapped tires.
That video is private…
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I'm living vicariously through your ride videos until I can afford my own bike hahahaha
If the front end feels scarily loose at high speed, that sounds like something is wrong. You should have that checked at the dealership. For a bike costing over 9 grand, I would be really upset if it was a fundamental design flaw. An 1100 should be able to go that fast without feeling like the front wheel is coming off.
Also, I wonder what Honda's motivation was for limiting the bike to 100.
They limited it because the front end get sketchy, it’s a trash bike only low iq people would buy….yikes
@@keithquinn5624 The stock tires are shit...put some cruisetecs on it and there is zero wobble. The limiter does suck tho but eventually that will get removed ;)
I haven't noticed any other videos mentioning front wheel instability at high speed. Yours is the 1st. You plan on taking it back to the dealer to check the rim, or any alignment issues?
I 2nd this, it couldn't hurt at least so you might as well huh?
Yea I’ll most likely have them look over everything during the initial 600 mile service. Can’t hurt to make sure everything is good to go!
I would really have it checked out my 500 never did that at almost 120mph
@@Transilvanian Having a hard time believing 120mph on a 500. Were you in free fall or something? ^^
@@Flazhness 117mph
I've been looking into trading my Sportster 1200 in for a Rebel 1100, and I hugely appreciate this video. I can count the times on one hand that I've hit 100+mph, but I like a bike that's able to do it. I definitely think the Rebel would be able to significantly increase the top speed but it'll need modification, of course. And that wobble at high speeds does worry me some, as even my Harley doesn't shake like that (I'm a Honda/Kawi guy but I decided to try out a Harley). Overall this video was very educational for me and I hope it helps potential owners as well as modders when coming up with solutions to the low top speed and the shaking. No hate here friend, another 10/10 video on the Life of Burch!
I have an iron 1200 and I'm thinking about dumping it for one of these as well. The vibration is just making my hands hurt and go to sleep. My hour commute each way to work ends up not being fun after about 45 minutes. It would also be nice to have cruise control.
You did good for a real world test man. Knowing these facts about the governor and speed wobble is going to effect me possibly buying this bike for my wife. I drive a stage 2 sportster 1200 and don't have these problems. Keep the vids coming!
Thanks for the kind words brotha! I’m sure they’ll come out with tuners/flashes to get rid of the governor soon enough, but the wobble is what stresses me out. Definitely plan to have the dealer look it over to make sure all is well before I start mobbing at those speeds again.
I know this comment is old, but an important message to OP:
keep that Sporty tight and the bushings in good shape. That's assuming you have the post 2003 rubber mounted Evo. Check torque specs on your mount mounts and ensure that no rubber bushings are worn. That's what causes the dreaded death wobble. Harleys don't have fork stabilizers like sport bikes because the front end geometry has enough rake to not worry about wobble, but loose mounts and worn bushings can allow things to not vibrate and flex at at the same frequency and in the same direction. That disagreement in movement makes it wobble.
Like any bike that has more rake than a sport bike, check front end drop off when you change primary fluid (like 10k miles) to ensure that your neck bearings are torqued correctly. Failure to do so could lead to wobble.
Harleys are rock solid. Anyone who experienced wobble on a rubber mount Harley wasn't doing their maintenance. Dealership service centers are dandy, but don't trust them with your life. Learn to wrench.
causally watching your videos bc I'm researching for my first bike. thought that the area your riding looked familiar. i lived in cape for a while, now on the eastern shore. i currently work in the ER near there.
anyways, i like your content and hope to get one of these bikes next year since its already starting to get cold.
On paper, the 1100 is pretty impressive. There’s no way your launching that correctly. That thing should only be a sub 4 second 0-60 possibly even a little quicker. The thing is almost 90hp and over 70 ft/lbs. of torque.
79 pounds of torque
Correct. It's actually 3.4 and very top speed of 140
So I watched your video and I feel that the reason for the shaking at 100 miles an hour it’s because of your phone mounted on the handlebars
I say that because someone else had the same situation. You might want to see if there’s a difference would it off. I’m curious for your answer
great video.. aiming to dich ex650 Kawa with parallel twin and get 1100 rebel.. so far it looks more comfortable but ??slower?? also..have you considered using shoulder? I used to check acceleration on my old Kawa Eliminator 600 all the time
You definitely have some problem maybe tire out of balance or neck bearings are loose !you need to get it to the Honda shop ! Probably a good thing it was shutting down at 100mph because if you would’ve went any faster you would’ve probably lost control.
I remember in his other video, his bike came 'damaged.'
More likely that the bike is not in a good shape.
There is something wrong with your bike. Have the dealer check it out. Try going about 40-45mph and let go of the handle bars. If you have a bad wobble there is a problem and the dealer can fix it.
I just did 123 on the highway the other day on my Indian Scout (100 HP, 1133 cc) and it was still going up rapidly.
Honda rebel would do that w/o that damn govern
Mike, be safe! And don't push it too hard. The Rebel 1100 is an excellent bike, and who really cares if you hit 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, or 5.6 seconds? Also, I have absolutely no need to track around the highway going 100 miles per hour! My only concern is that I have more (reserve) power to pass someone on the highway going 70 or 75, which this mike has plenty of reserve left! Good, informative video and keep it up! Ride safe! 👍🏍
At high speeds and on the highway honestly a windshield will make a big difference for how the wind is breaking up over the bike. It may actually completely eradicate that wobble. But I'm more interested in how well it rides at 70 to 85 as I have no need to drive at 100 for any amount of time.
I believe all issues with speed wobbles were fixed by changing the stock tires
I think the modes are how sensitive the traction control is, not how much power is on the wheel. I think it is going to give however much throttle you dump, as long as the wheel is maintaining traction.
The front end wobble looks like its from drag on your body, it starts lifting the front. If you had a windshield it would help push the front down.
No, the modes control power, traction, and engine brake. All a 1 through 3. 3 being the highest. There’s also user mode where you can select your own levels of power, traction, and engine brake.
I truly appreciate your honest evaluations. Your not the first one to get a damaged 1100 when delivered. The top speed of 100 is fine with me. But a front tire that wobbles concerns me as a future buyer. Keep us informed.
Something is wrong, mine doesn't wabble at all
I want to clarify that the different modes do not change the power of your bike.
They just change the throttle response, witch means its a bit "lazy" in rain, normal in standard and very responsive in sport.
I wonder if it's the governor causing the wobble if it's constantly cutting power in and out. When it gives power for a split second could it be lifting the tire just enough to make it unstable? Then when it cuts out the tire and suspension drop a little. Maybe??
Even in rain mode, it gets to 60 twice as fast as my 09 250.. it'll do mid-high 80s totally maxed out. Cruising at 65-70 is more comfortable though.
Thanks for the nice vid. However, I see no reason you couldn't have stopped on the side of the road for the 0 - 60 runs. Didn't look like much traffic?
Blind hill on a road where people consistently do 70 in a 50...not risking it! That bike path off to the side of the road is actually there because several road bikers and pedestrians have been hit and killed on this road over the years 😳 I do plan to find a better road do a legit 0-60 test in the future though! This was done more just to compare the power in each mode. Thanks for watching!
Hey Burch..... Did you try shifting "modes" whike in neutral ???... There may be a safety function so that you don't " shift on the fly" with the modes.
I was expecting like 3.5 - 3.7 0 to 60 time, only reason I say that is the Kawasaki Vulcan S is supposedly around 4.2 and that's a 650cc weighting in about the same as the 1100. Totally thought the Rebel was gonna be up there with the Suzuki M109R
My '06 600cc Honda Hornet does about 3.5 and weighs about the same. They have to be limiting it in some way because the Africa Twin that it shares an engine with does 3.3 seconds and can go 130 or so mph while weighing around 110 pounds more.
the controller in these is smart enough to know what you need when you give it wide open throttle, the modes are just throttle response, full throttle is still full throttle though. if your asking for full throttle the bike assumes you need to move fast, so it gives you full power.
With bikes that have throttle by wire and different power modes, the different power modes will change how the throttle responds.
I don't know how the Rebel 1100 does it exactly, but for the 2020 BMW S1000RR if you rotate the throttle to the 50% position, you will get the following throttle inputs in each of the power modes:
Rain: approximately 30-35%
Road (and Dynamic): 50%
Race: approximately 65-70%
If you rotate the throttle to the 100% position, you will get 100% throttle regardless of the power mode you are in.
I'm not a bike person. So, why does the front gets wobbly in high speed? Is it because the bike is not heavy enough or does the air lifts the front?
Then, how super sport bike can do 180 MPH with no problem? They're very light too.
Im not sure if its the same with your bike, but on my gsxr the power mode only really tones down the power in the higher rpms...which to me isn't helpful because if it was raining and i wanted to tame it down I wouldnt be in the higher RPMs. Anyways thanks for the video!
Doesn't your camera (judging form the description - gopro hero 8) have a telemetry features like gps built into it? Can you measure 0-60 form that data?
Also, I've seen in other videos that you can put that speed data form your go pro on the video like a speedometer. Can you do that?
Definitely hit up a local suspension company and have your front end Calibrated for your weight etc!!! It will change the whole feeling of the bike. Preload front adjustments!!!
That may be so... but it seems other bikes do not need this.
You said you had the bike set to full load? Did you set the rear pre-load higher? You shouldn’t increase pre-load on the rear to stiffen the suspension. That’s not what pre load does. You’re actually pushing more weight down on the rear and making the bike lighter upfront. Preload is to set sag, it’s not dampening. If you want to be more stable at higher speeds, you need to upgrade the front suspension with fork cartridges.
Full load as in wide open throttle. I never talked about suspension.
@@LifeOfBurch Gotchya. Phew. I was like... that a bad idea lol
@@rickbradshaw2148 yea I can’t think of a worse idea than setting the pre-load as high as it goes and then just ripping it up to 100mph 😂 so I appreciate you saying something in case that’s what was happening lol
I know I’m late but if I remember what yammienoob said, it only affects throttle response. So I’m other words if you’re going full throttle, it’ll still have the same power across all modes. And I’m sure it’s governed at a hundred because I just watched a top speed run of a five hundred rebel and it was also one hundred
1. The app isn't professional. It's a free app using GPS data to determine speed of travel, and the data is not transmitted instantly.
2. You take 10 min to turn from stopped to before the bike is upright after the turn, which then you crank down on the throttle.
Could have stopped to the side of the road, then tested from 0. Seen plenty of opportunity to do so in the video, traffic was super light.
I get mine over 100 on the interstate with zero wobble.
Wow 😯 what the hell??? I guess I can check this one off my list. Thanks buddy
So now I can check out the cb650r.
My superglide did 105 in 5th gear and still had another gear to go with no wobble. You’ll always have haters no matter what you do. I won’t hate on you. You just helped me decide what bike NOT to get.
I used to have a 2018 CB1100RS, and told my dealer all the issues I had with it:
Front wheel feels too light over 90mph. I took it up to 135mph and frightened myself stupid. I had to lie over the tank to get weight over the front wheel.
Excessive vibration on the bars at most speeds.
Front suspension was soft as it dipped, but then slammed hard, so if you braked and hit a pothole you flew out of the seat. Nearly lost the bike once that way.
Rear suspension was awful, it was so harsh. Every bump on the road was magnified up my spine.
The seat looked like it ought to be comfortable, but it was not. 50-60 miles and I had to get off and stretch my legs for 10 minutes.
The 4 cylinder engine was so underpowered for its size.
The bike was too heavy for its size, by about 50-60lbs.
So, he sent that off to Honda, and I switched to a gen 5 Kawasaki ZX10R. Night and day. Everything perfectly engineered. With such a tiny seat, it is way more comfortable than the Honda CB1100RS.
So, they gave me a test ride day a couple of weeks ago on the 2021 Rebel 1100.
My feedback was that the engine was better, but nowhere near enough power for an 1100 still. I know I am spoilt with my mapped ZX10R having 200hp, but the Africa Twin engine is as dull as dishwater. Better than the 4 cylinder on the CB1100RS, but that isn't saying much.
Addressing the top speed front wheel lightness by limiting the top speed is stupid (but it does still feel too light after about 70mph).
Suspension front and rear just as bad as the CB1100RS, same with the seat and handlebar vibrations.
The front brakes with a single rotor was not good enough (but maybe another reason why the top speed is limited).
Bike felt every so slightly lighter, but that might have been the smaller fuel tank? Why make a full frame bike these days? There is no need, it looks ugly and adds weight.
Seems to me Honda really missed an opportunity to produce something better than the Indian Scout, and missed by a country mile. See this website for other ideas Honda had to use this engine:
www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-news/is-honda-developing-an-africa-twin-street-model/
love your videos man, they always put a smile on my face. God bless.
Great and informative video! Im sure I wont ride mine a lot at 100mph and even do that speed on public roads but that is good to know. Ride safe brother
After seeing this vid 2 days after putting a deposit done on this bike i got a bit worried. Luckily every other top speed vid for the 1100 ive seen doesnt show any high speed wobble. Def your bike mate. Scary stuff.
Interesting top speed on 1100 ... hummm. If 1100 is electronically governed at around 100 mph, then what the point of buying it or instead of buying Rebel 500?
Thx for sharing video bro
It’s Good to be slower and safer than faster unnecessarily
Understand what you mean, but one of the things that keep you safe on a motorcycle is the ability to be quicker than most anything on the road when you need to get out of a bad place. Slower isn’t always safer.
Good honest review, sir ... thank you
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it!
Hey I was wondering if the manual version has the bulge on the right side that digs into your ankle. I was fortunate to have the new 1100 at my local dealer. It felt great but the crankcase cover (I guess) was sticking out into my ankle. It was a DCT version. Can I get some feedback on the manual version? Thanks!!! Love the videos.
It does not do that on the manual! I was able to ride my buddy’s DCT model and that was the first thing I noticed. I believe (but don’t quote me on this) it’s something to do with the DCT transmission, because the manual model doesn’t have that bulge at all. Your ankle is a solid couple inches away from the engine. Deeefinite perk to getting the manual in my opinion! I’m hoping to do a full DCT review in the next couple weeks 🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch thanks for that info Sir, greatly appreciate it. Very good information.
I have a 500 and to me it felt like you were up shifting waaayyyyy too early for those 0-60 tests
Whoo! Was waiting for this video, haven't finished it yet, but if it is only 100mph.. can we get a sprocket swap video? Would love to see it (assuming it doesn't need to be de-restricted before sprocket swap)
That is NOT how you do 0-60s, you can't be in a turn, you need to be stopped on the straight or you will be slower and the bike can't put the power down.
Go onto a straight, stop when it's safe, keep the wheels straight (no turning), then try again you will be faster.
You will need to rev the engine at stop a bit with the clutch pulled in to give the bike a better launch and a faster 0-60 time. You'll be under 5 seconds 0-60 with a proper motogp start but that takes practice.
Also you can't use "an app" to measure the timing it will be slower than an actual proper speedometer/timer.
Better technique is to make sure your gopro is on the speedometer, and count the frames or seconds on video when it hits 60. That will be more accurate.
But yes it is ECU limited which you can remove in the future to gain back quite a bit of power and unlock the stupid 100mph restriction.
Also I think the speed wobbles you are feeling has more to do with engine/electronics cutting power causing vibrations through the chassis, removing it may allow to engine to rev freely and not introduce secondary or tertiary vibrations but more testing is needed.
The 1100 is actually longer than the 500 and that bike is still stable above 160kph (100mph), so with 2" larger front tires the 1100 should be more stable at high speeds than it's little brother rebel 500. Unless something is fundamentally wrong with the suspension geometry/damper settings.
Nice test, some room to improve. Looking forward to next video!
Short story, long: around 1995 some kids knocked my '78 Suzuki GS1000L over in the parking lot at work and broke my Slipstream. Next day was 1st ride w/out a screen and I never felt my jacket fill up with wind and pull me off the back like that before. I got up to speed and had to let go of the handlebars to keep my fingers from opening the throttle wider as I was hanging on for dear life. I got control before the first curve and pulled over in a church parking lot to thank God for letting me survive that moment of stupidity. I'm pretty sure there was a pucker mark on the seat for a few weeks. I've ridden slow w/out a windscreen ever since, LOL.
That front wobble is probably why they had to govern it so low.
very interesting. thanks for the attempt. i have a feeling, being how light the bike is, in combination with the weight distribution, is causing that 'squirrelly' effect at the higher speeds. unlike with a lightweight sport bike that has most of the weight on the front end, along with the rider being mostly on the front end, keeps the front more stable. the Rebel is light and with it's geometry makes the rear end squat under load/full throttle, lifting the front.
but, like you said this bike isn't made for top speed runs, just quick blasts here and there. ; )
Just this regular guy's thoughts.
Good point! I hadn’t though about the weight distribution aspect.
I'm trying to like these (rebels, and cruisers in general), but I apparently fail to see the point. My Kawasaki Ninja 300 will bounce off the rev limiter all day at 120mph, and it feels stable. Or I can get over 70MPG when NOT doing that. It hits 60mph in 4.7seconds with only 300cc's. It's very fun and nimble in the twisties and commuting around town, and costs half of the Rebel 1100. Not trying to be negative or insult anyone, but what is it about cruisers that people are going for? The styling? Comfort?
It does seem wobbling when you hit 100 or even slower speed on the freeway. Any possibility that the road surface was rough that affected your handling? In any case, I gave my feedback to Honda Motor with this video as the reference. Will see. Thanks for taking it to the edge!
I watched another video where the guy was doing basically the same thing and he noticed that the front end being loose and wobbly was due to the position of his cell phone. If you put your cell phone in your pocket or something or if you had a windshield it may act a lot differently
Assuming there isn't a mechanical issue (bad tire, something out of balance ect) its most likely that you're too tight on the bars. Its especially critical to stay loose on them under acceleration because as the weight comes off the front the tire will very very slightly skip and dance. If your tight you will be fighting the physics that otherwise would be correcting the wiggle for you. A lot of riders say the same of more upright naked bikes too but 9 times out of 10 its just gripping the bars too tight.
Ride safe man!
I’m well aware, thanks for the advice though! That’s why in the last clip where the wobbles were the worst I ended up getting back on the throttle to try helping it take some weight off the front to correct itself. Definitely not a fun feeling!
Hello. I have a question. how tall are you? Is this a good bike for tall riders (195 cm)? I am thinking about a test drive and I do not know if it makes sense.
As a recent subscriber I do enjoy your content and very interesting to see how the 1100 does at high speed
Thanks for subscribing man! Glad you’re digging the content! 🙏🏻
I love the vids keep em going 🤙
Thanks man!! 🙏🏻
Something wrong with your front end, most likely a dud tire, no street bike should wobble like that at 100mph. My dual sport doesn’t even do that at 100 and it’s a tractor. Get a shop to check it out and if they say nothing is wrong go to another shop.
Regarding the speed limiter, I would take a look at the speed rating of the tires. I had a Dodge Dakota that was limited to 110 because that was the speed rating of the tires. A Mopar PCM took care of that. The shake at hight speed I really don't have a clue. I was out Saturday in Annapolis, at Chesapeake Cycles looking at an Indian Scout Bobber for my wife. Keep up the good work, hope to meet you one day.
Dude, it's a cruiser! 100 is fast enough for me. I don't mind that mine is pegged at 100!
Until you are passed by a Harley and you cant give chase.
@@LTLT900 yeah like why tf am i going to pay for an 1100cc engine if i cant even use all of it?
What’s your weight?
I’m curious; if you put on weights, would it be more stable?
Guys for sure it is the truth. I own an 1100 DCT 2022. I can confirm that the front end is light. Between 85 to 100 it’s extremely scary when the bars start wobbling a little.. so you know, I’m 5’11, 173lbs. So it’s not because I’m fat or weigh too much. It’s just how the bike is designed. You don’t want to do 100 on this thing, trust me.
That death wobble can not be normal, if thats the case, then it's a major design flaw. Check all the nuts connecting the steering rack to the frame, and check if either wheel is damaged. The balancing of either the front wheel, or rear might be off. Check the tire pressure's as well.
What are the stock tires? stock tires on rebel 500 are trash and i wouldn't attempt over 80mph on them.
@@maydaverave Dunlop D428
The ride modes on it doesn't change the power output on the Rebel, just the throttle response.
I'm not sure if the manual is 6 speed or not. I've heard on the DCT if you put it in manual mode and shift into 5th, it will go past 100. Not sure if you'd get more out of it in 5th if it is a 6 speed. Just hear say though.
Never mind, you tried that 😆.
Hey bud, i have the rebel 1100 down in Washington d.c. I was wondering what phone mount do you have? My old one doesn't sit as well on the rebel
This is a Ram mount!
That's fine. I'd much rather have my gearing for legal speeds.
I wonder if putting a beefier, and slightly larger front tire would help. IIRC the 500 has a larger front tire.
Maybe your bike was a little more Damaged when it arrived than you originally thought?
I saw pictures of how it was when it arrived. Very very unlikely that any kind of shipping damage caused the high speed wobble. That’s not to say I won’t have the dealer look back over it though just to be safe.
I work at a Honda dealer and we’re having to pick up the slack on quality control more and more
@@fpsf4l865 appreciate your input.
I've seen a few real 0-60 and the were hitting 4.10 to 4.50 seconds in standard and sport mode
Yea this obviously wasn't intended to show a "real" 0-60, it was more or less to see what the power difference was in each mode. I wasn't shooting for a "best time" or anything, just a comparison of each mode. I do want to do a video seeing how low I can get the 0-60, but that will be down the line and won't be done using a free app I've never used before lol
Interesting video. Enjoyed. You got my like. :) Just rode the 500. :) Interested also in this one. Keep up man and drop by if have time.
Most bikes are electronically speed limited so you can't exceed the speed rating of the OEM tires.
The riding modes really only change the sensitivity of the throttle. It makes the same power.
Hi, Sorry for my simple english. Does the bike has vibrations?
And as a last quick retort to the vid,.... did you per chance check to see that the "dot" on the tire was inline with the valve stem on the rim ?? Just sayin, as it seems weird that Honda would make a bike that was "sketchy" at top, or near top end.
An unbalanced tire config is my question...
Hey Burch, I just bought the Rebel 1100 and I'm so ashamed to say it (seriously though) it's the ninth motorcycle I've bought since August of last year meaning August of 2022 (we're in Aug. 2023). I don't think the 1100 is slow, it takes off like a rocket almost, but the ECU limits the throttle for safety reasons and in this case you can't remap the ECU, you need a whole new ECU and the correct mapping to get the full power the 1100 delivers which is about 130 Mph. Me, I'm middle age so I'm cool with the 107 Mph I get out of her, I've had my share of scary stuff on bikes but some guys may not buy the 1100 bc maybe Honda went a bit too far. Honda could've limited the bike to 115 or 118 Mph in perfect safety, Cheers, Mike.
Would this be a suitable first bike for a beginner? I’m 6’3 260 lbs, big buy, so I’m stuck in the weird middle realm where I can’t ride a small bike but don’t want to throttle myself to death with something too powerful for me to control too
Im 5 11 and that is probably the limit for the height I would ride this bike.
Maybe Honda limited the speed to a hundred miles per hour because of the motorcycle instability at higher speeds. Let say that a motorcycle becomes unstable at 105mph, it is cheaper to limit the speed to 100mph than fix the problem.
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Ayy glad to have you along for the ride dude! Thanks for subscribing!
That totally looked sketchy. I saw that wobble. My 800 pound VTX 1800 sits real nice at that speed. Don’t mess with the death wobble. Hell no !
Yes I’m first I’ve been here since the first video I love the rebel 1100 thank you
Ayyy number 1 let’s go!! 🏆
As other Rebel owners in the US confirmed, the 1100 has a speed limit of 100 mph. This is something I cannot understand, as its little sister, the 500 is only limited by the power of its engine ! I was able to reach over 110 mph with the Rebel 500. No front wheel vibration whatsoever! Of course this bike is not intended for high speeds, but it was able to develop more than 100 mph with an engine half the cc and half the power. The guys at Honda Spain told me that the 1100 will have no speed limit in Europe. Let's wait and see when they launch it in Europe. In the mean time you could check what you discovered with your Honda dealer, just to know the reason for this. Thanks for the video, dude !
That’s interesting! If the Rebel 1100 in Spain ends up having no limiter, I wonder if that ECU could just swap into the American 1100 🤔 Either way, I’ll definitely be mentioning the wobble to my dealer to see if it’s something that can be fixed.
@@LifeOfBurch and maybe fit a steering damper.
@@LifeOfBurch As a matter of fact, this no limit is for whole Europe. They only sell power-limited bikes according to the driving license you have, but they have never sold speed-limited bikes. On the other hand, I see you attached your cell phone to the handle bar, what cell phone is it ?
@@LifeOfBurch Definitely do that! I'll try to put an example of my bike at similar speeds over on the Facebook group. No sketchy wobbles, but maybe having a rider over 200 lbs has something to do with it too...
Mike, does this hurt the bike "gunning" it that way during your break-in period?
Hey Jim! It shouldn’t hurt the bike at all. I asked the dealer about the break in period when I picked up the bike since it’s my first new anything, and he said that the break in period is more so that the rider can get accustomed to the bike and not overdo it. He said that all the motors are run at the factory now, and the break in period really only mattered back in the day when engines couldn’t hold their tolerances as well. Plus, strangely enough, even though this bike’s initial service is still at 600 miles, the break in period is only listed as 300 miles. So I was outside of the 300 mile mark.
@@LifeOfBurch Good to know! I figured you put the 300 miles on the bike your first day! 😂 I have been babying my new Triumph, but maybe now I'll have some more fun with her!
Something is definitely wrong if it’s wobbling like that at 100. There’s no way it should be doing that. I’d have it checked over by the dealer meticulously to make sure everything tightened, adjusted, and within spec for sure.
The video for fixing the speed wobble is privated, what fixed it?
Sounds Good Burch, When you all think about it..... you don't need to be doing faster than 100. Right?....The 1100 is light... and a heavy cross wind at that speed can really mess up your day. Even the heavy cruisers, same diff... so why 120 ?? Anyways, the Yammy Viragos and 950's are all tapped at 5800~6000 rpm..... which equates to ~~105 mph ... just for comparison. 60 ~ 70 mph is totally adequate, just sayin' .
ok... that last bit just didn't come out right....60~~ 70 mph cruising speed, with a top end around 105 mph is what was meant ...;)
There are a couple of other videos hitting the 100mph in the DCT model . No one seemed to have the wobbling issue. Wondering if it is specific to this one bike.
I’ll have to check those out to see if I can tell why that is. Definitely not fun lol
For $10K, what other cruise bike is better than 1100? I'm 5.7" tall, so the seat height is very important to me.
Vulcan s. Buy an aftermarket seat. Trust me. Save 2k
So the 300, 500, & 1100 all go about the same speed?
Apparently honda specs is 0-60 from stop is 3.4 sec and quarter mile is 12.1 sec at 108 mph with a top speed of 140
Great video man
Thanks bro!
I hope the Australia model isn't limited, or at least be a way to remove it.
I have absolutely no intention of ever travelling that fast. I don't even bother in my car, I always stay within the limits, but dammit I don't want someone interfering with my shit. As long as I COULD go above 100, I'm happy.
For context, I sat on one in the Honda dealer recently and I've started to love it, so I might go back soon and look at getting one.
$19k over here though! Part of that is conversion, 10k USD is around 14k AUD. The remaining 5k is just the government dipping their grubby hands in though! Bastards :P
It's prob your phone causing your bar to wobble, see if you can put it near the instrument cluster display panel?
Thanks and be safe
I've found if a vehicle has a governor, there is a reason why. Looks like the max speed tires and steering can handle is 100.