Interesting video. In the 44 years I'd been flying, it never occurred to me to actually purchase my own plane! I spent decades flying "other" people's aircraft and really enjoyed it right up until retirement in 2021 aged 62. My final flight was in a "borrowed" Airbus A380-800 and I then spent the next week crying every day. I missed it so much. Enjoy your flying days. It's a fantastic career and a wonderful experience. Cheers from Australia.
@@Tom_in_CA Commercial passenger is 62 years of age Part 121. I ended up with 40,234 logbook flight hours ending with my final flight into YSSY in the wonderful A380-800. Stay well!
She needs to be honest, she doesn't know how to buy a plane. She obviously comes from a rich family of privilege. She doesn't understand buying or selling of anything
I was looking a year and a half ago and I was dead set on a 210, but a really nice Debonair popped up, and I realized I didn’t need a suburban in the sky, and I feel buying the debonair was the best decision I made. We love it
Thank you for the video! I'm 62 with 210hr in a 172. I'll only have one airplane in my life, so deciding is very important to me. I've put the Bonana's at the top of my list. My plane would be what I finish my IFR in, and mostly travel. I also live in the mountains (Montana) so performance is important to me as well.
That's so exciting! Another airplane I love that's high performance and is close to the 172 is the 182. I actually flew one into Kalispell over the Rockies a few years back and it did great. Good luck on your journey, I love seeing other women in aviation!
Very nice. I'm an instructor in Reno and have bought two airplanes... it's definitely a process (especially the first time!) and you seem to have found a great one. Beechcraft builds a solid aircraft.
I just closed on a "Baby Beech" last week. Funny enough, I ALMOST bought a Commander 112. The 114 or 115 is definitely on my "next plane" list. My overall experience was smoothish, and mostly like yours. There were 4 different planes I seriously considered before the one I finally purchased, all of which I passed on for various reasons. The purchase contract, escrow company, and a pre-buy inspection are HARD musts in my opinion. A few things I'd mention... 1. Add $10K for taxes, escrow fees, loan broker fees, etc. into the budget 2. Get insurance quotes early! My closing was delayed by my insurance company, even though they had everything they needed two weeks prior. 3. Ask the finance company for airplane requirements! One of the loan companies wanted me to finance (or pay out of packet) an overhaul on any engine not previously overhauled in 20 years, no matter how many hours or what the pre-buy results were.
All such great points thanks for adding to the video! Congratulations on your "baby beech"! It's a very good feeling to successfully close as there are quite a few steps to it
Great video. Here in Kansas there is a pilot who had an airstrip next to his house. He loved flying, no hangar fees and the airstrip was right there. Like your tips and tricks!
I’ve never heard of a cylinder reading bad one day and good another day of the compression test was done correctly i’d like to hear more about that one.
I just found your channel earlier today & subscribed based on your awesome aerial tour of Lake Tahoe. So of course when i saw this video I _had_ to check it out. Best video _ever_ on how to actually buy an airplane! No bullshit, no hard sell sales pitch, which I never find useful. Just great advice with a logical, stepwise approach🖤🖤
I'm glad you loved the tour! It's one of my favorite places in the world and always feel so lucky to be able to fly around it. I'm so glad you found the how to buy video helpful! When I was looking and watched RUclips videos, they all kind of said the same thing so I was hoping to dive a little deeper for those who felt like I did. Thanks for the sub!
I am not a pilot just an aviation enthusiast, congratulations, you are a hard working young lady and you deserve it. Enjoy your Debi and many years of enjoyment. See you on the next one. Safe travels.
I appreciate this, your experience is more recent than most of the other plane buying videos on youtube right now. I'm currently searching a for a plane (172-sized or comparable) while also navigating the loan process. Every day I check barnstormers, trade-a-plane, and FB marketplace. Totally agree about Controller having some slightly higher-priced listings. Thanks for sharing your story!
A few weeks ago I was about to hook up the boat and go fishing, my passion for many years since not riding Harley's or flying aircraft anymore. When I was learning to fly, my favorite aircraft were a 1968 C-150 AeroBat that I learned to fly in. After that, I checked out in a C-172 and a Piper PA-28-160. Up here in NorCal (CIC/O37/0O4) it gets hot, really hot like 112 degrees that day, not good for fishing or flying. So I plopped down in front of my computer and decided to watch the DA62 checkout you posted and thought wow what a nice aircraft and an easy going low key pilot, yes you Hayley. Well today was a repeat of that same scenario, was going to head out to go fishing, but this time not only was it getting hot, after getting a light malfunction warning from the truck, I found a broken wire on the trailer, so half my lights were not working, plus it's 109 right now, so again, decided to not go fishing and came back inside to watch videos, again. After watching a couple of my favorites, I saw on the side bar of videos to watch, the "I bought my own airplane!! Meet "Debi" the 1966 C33A Beechcraft Debonair" So I gave it a click and wow what a great buy! Many years ago an acquaintance of mine had a Debo that's what he called it, after many years he sold it then bought a Baron, way above my pay grade lol. Anyway, I watched all the other videos associated with the Debonair, by the way, which are very nice aircraft, they were high end in cost, performance and luxury back in 1966. After watching your videos I couldn't help but hit the subscribe button! Looking forward to more flying adventures and your laid back style of flying. Your Debi is beautiful and you're adorable! Thank you! 😎
I’ve purchased several airplanes. The fastest deal I’ve ever closed was a cash purchase, counting from the day I found it, all my due diligence to signing was 30 days. I don’t recall if you mentioned it but you need to use an escrow company when paying cash. Another way to find an airplane you want is to send out inquiries via email or snail mail to owners that own the kind of airplane you want, you never know who is sitting on a plane that would like to sell but isn’t advertising it. Congrats on your airplane purchase.
As always, thanks for sharing Hayley. Sadly, being retired, affording an airplane isn't in the budget. Once upon a time, way, way back before Hayley was born, I had wrapped up my commercial training program and just adding hours to my log book before scheduling my checkride, when I was "diagnosed" with one of those you ain't flying anymore "diseases." Years later, it was proven to be a mis-diagnosis, but the damage had been done, my career in aviation was gone forever or so I thought for 40 years. My love for aviation never faded. Fast forward to 2023 when for some mysterious reason I attended an AOPA "Rusty Pilot" seminar at the Buckeye Air Fare...a little voice in my head was asking, I wonder??? A consultation with an AME answered the question, it was a yes I think it's doable. The old "diagnosis" was never an issue, but I did have coronary bypass surgery in 2014, so a Special Issuance was the ticket. Earlier this year, my 3rd Class SI was issued. I've been with a CFI for a while, getting back up to speed, learning some new stuff as well...things have changed out there, with airspace, avionics, ATC communication, navigation. Back when I was flying, transponders were a luxury, GPS didn't exist, it was an analog world in every way. I've logged 15 hours now in a 172 with a pair of Garmin G5's, and a GNS 430. Between my CFI's "day job" schedule and now the summer heat here in AZ, it's forced a "pause." But it give me some time to put some more training money aside. Once I do get my "extended" flight review signed off, renting seems my only option. Sadly there are no rentals at my local field KCGZ. I'll have to drive to KCHD or KAVQ. It's just amazing that I'm even flying again. I've been lucky to have met a few of the aircraft owners at KCGZ, one of whom turned out live a couple of blocks from me and I've been able to fly with him from time to time.
I just turned 60, going for a sport pilot license (no medical needed) I’ve already passed the Sport Pilot FAA written test. As of today I have 2.5 hours of flight training in…I wish I could train everyday, but logistics prevents that. One day at a time.
Geat video Hayley. I bought a Rockwell Commander 112A last year, the 114 was out of my price range. I'm so happy with this 112. I bought it to build time to ATP, so its perfect. It's not that fast which is good for building time and it has a very comfortable cabin (i'm 6'2" 210lbs). It's in really good shape, low time and i do my own maintenance (I'm an A&P). I live in Vegas so I have to deal with heat (density alt) but it does good. if you're ever in Vegas, lets go fly.
Congratulations on "Debbie".. Great video and explanation.. One other topic you may want to hit on in another video is insurance. That can have a big impact on the total expenses a particular plane may have. I just called for an insurance quote for a similar Debonair, and with my low TT and lack of model type, my annual insurance would be $8,000/yr.. ouch.. so... that has a significant sway in which type of plane you may be considering.
Very true! Luckily since I have my CFI and some time under the belt I was quoted $3k, I believe the amount of time you have retract as well matters. A route I've heard is doing the ABS ground training and flight that can cut insurance costs.
Beautiful, articulate and uber smart. You're going to go far Hailey. Let nothing or no one get in the way. Wishing you clear skies, smooth flight, and a safe journey ahead.
Hi Hayley, Thank you for telling me How to buy an airplane. I wanted to be a pilot and buy an airplane, but unfortunately I'm suffering from nervous breakdown and unable to drive a plane. Infact I feel happy to support female pilots like you. You are my best pilot Hayley and you are a successful, skillful pilot who is ready to face any challenge in your plane driving. I love supporting you Hayley
Another great video glad to see your increasing your video output. Just one quick addition to the great advice you gave on trying to find an aircraft, if you know what sort of aircraft you want to buy the aircraft owners association can be a great source for aircraft that's for sale plus also a lot of great information about that particular aircraft. They would be organizations like Mooney aircraft owners association, Cherokee aircraft owners association etc. And lastly I would be curious to know why you didn't consider a Mooney? Yes and a big thumbs up to Josh C 7091 on getting your subscriber base up to 100K❤
Thanks for sharing your adventure ma'am with your purchase of your airplane... I found a 1960 Deb, looks great for 99k but it needs some tlc. Lol. Again, thanks for sharing your story
Similar thought process in my story, and it happened just down the road from where you pick up your Diamond Stars. As soon as I chose to go with an experimental aircraft, an RV9 popped up on Trade-a-Plane located a 5 hour drive away. My local mechanic had built an RV, so the prebuy with him was trustworthy and quick, and the owner let me fly it to my home field if his instructor came along, which also was convenient because I used him to complete a checkout in the airplane. I had previously been renting a Comanche. However, we didn't have a purchase contract, but we spent quite a bit of time talking face to face and on the phone; the owner seemed rather particular about who he was going to sell it to, and I apparently fit the bill better than other tire kickers. Fortunately, at the same time a hangar came up on the field. I was actually quite surprised at how smoothly it all went. I only looked at one aircraft. Beginner's luck? Perhaps, but since then nothing but the grin, lots of flying (KOSH, Sun-n-Fun, west coast)... and maintenance. 😉 If only I could have done this when I was 26! Good video, Hayley.
As a asset protection expert I would recommend that you find the hanger first, they are in short supply; second you form a formal entity to own any aircraft because it is a risky asset; consult with a expert on the FAA ownership rules; especially if you intend to use it for income tax benefits; and the tax code for your state where you are parking an aircraft and federal tax code on business use and depreciation and tax deduction ( goes back to entity form) Beware of FL and any coastal areas where aircraft have been sitting. In 2024 flipping houses especially FL is catching a falling knife. Also selling investment property is a taxable event.
Super cool video! I just bought an airplane about a year ago and your video is spot on!! Keep the content coming, you’re awesome! However, I’m a “high wing” guy, I won’t hold that against you, LOL,,😂😂! Love you kiddo!
Yes, the 260 hp Debbie is faster than both the Comanche and Rockwell 114 as they both have much wider cabins. The Bonanza wing and NACA series 23000 airfoil is probably the most used and best compromise of all airfoils. It was used in the P-38. F6F, F8F, many Lockheeds and Douglas designs. It's one of the reasons Bonanzas fly and handle so well. Savvy is a good resource, I've known Mike Busch for over 30 years, he's a good guy and very knowledgeable. Another good resource is Aviation Consumer and their used aircraft guides with copious info on used and new aircraft. You forgot to mention aircraft owners groups. ABS (American Bonanza Society), Piper owners ass'n, Censsna Owners ass'n, Mooney pilots and so many more. You can learn so much, problem areas, maintenance, the best shops, finding parts,etc. Never used a broker or bought from a broker and had no issues in buying and selling a dozen birds, some of that helping friends buy/selling birds. Also need to consider insurability of the plane and pilot.
Very interesting this one to me cos it's almost the same process as buying a boat, which I have some experience of. If you can think of running a second camera for these talking head kind of segments and switching between them, It will add a bit more dynamic and sustain viewer attention, (not that you need much of that 🙂😍).
Purchased 1947 J3 Piper Cub, totally restored with a metal spar and prop as the last Fathers Day Gift for my 30K ATP Dad! Paid $14500.00 back in 1986 which was all the money back then. Dad never got to fly it, but saw it one time and openly wept... Well WORTH The Price!
@@FlywithHayley ... every place that I stopped for fuel on the way from Madison WI to Buffalo, NY people would take measurements for their own wrecked one! Wood County Ohio, I came over the fence pretty hot and used up about 2500 feet of runway, a guy told me that you can take off and land one of these in about 300 ft! As he looked me over (designer jeans and tassled loafers with my JEP Gase buckled in to the front seat I explained that I am used to anything falling out of the sky in less than 100 kts...he asked what I flew and I answered Cessna 340A, Cessna Conquest 1 ce425 and King Air 200! He called me a "Corporate HOT DOG" and walked away ';-) Thanks for letting me share a little of my Fathers Day "Frank Story" with you albeit 38 years ago!!
great info! glad you went the "Debi" route😉 such a beautiful plane! Congrats on everything so far! really enjoy flying with ya, seeing each step along the flight (radio calls and trying to decipher them)😊 ps what kind of range does debi get?? keep up the great content!👍
My father was posted to Libya, North Africa when I was about 3. The Sarah desert started at the end of our property. One night my father left his brand new VW beetle outside, a sandstorm blew up and sandblasted the car. He had to have it resprayed. Just imagine if that happened to Debby. I did consider learning to fly and purchasing an aircraft. To commute from the UK to Brittany France the route took me across the English Channel just touching the Bay of Biscay. During the winter solstice some years the ferries will not leave port. The weather can be bad. A light aircraft was lost in the English Channel in the last few years. I decided I needed a twin-engine aircraft. After going through all the issues I decided not to purchase the aircraft.
It seems that this “buy a nice airplane” business is easy. First, you round up a bunch of money. Second, you think about what you want to do with the airplane. Third (and most important) you call Hayley, and let her guide you through the whole thing, so you don’t have to worry about making a mistake! :)
Really vague stuff here, I’m not saying she needs to justify or layout the checkbook receipts but I didn’t get anything from this that was really helpful.
I believe the Comanche is a superior plane, especially comparing a 260 to this model debonair. I don't know why she said it's 20kts slower, because it's def not. It's wider, larger baggage area, stronger wing, higher fuel capacity and I prefer Lycoming over continental and normally greater useful load. Only problem with the Comanche is the bulk of them are from the 60's.
What ownership paperwork is involved? How is the planes registration transferred? (Is it like a cars pink slip?) How do you know that you are buying the plane from the legal owner?
Hayley would you think if you know you are going to need financing that this should be one of the first stages of buying a plane? Even before finding the one you want?
Yes they all come into play pretty early. It’s good to get your documents in and an approval from the lender before committing to an airplane. Good point!
The bank that gives out the loan may have criteria for aircraft on order to certify the loan (overhaul in last 20 years, times under certain time/tbo, adsb etc) so be aware of that
thankyou! most training begins with a singe engine prop plane. I wouldn’t recommend the Debonair for initial training, (it’s fast and complex) but after gaining some experience it’s a great airplane to fly!
Hey, Hayley. Not sure what you're using for editing, but the cuts tend to cut out your voice frequently. It's not too bad, but if you're using automated software, you may not have realized it. Appreciate the video ☺
Boooo! Comanche all the way! I do like the Deb though. I only went with the Piper because too many mechanics warned me that the maintenance will be more expensive with the Beechcraft. I do look at Debs on the ramp and pause...
Nice video Hayley! It sure would be nice if there was a service that would bundle all these tasks into one package and just deliver the airplane of your choice already inspected and reconditioned to a hangar or tie down at your home base.
I am! Right now I'm happy flying around VFR getting to know my airplane. When I'm feeling ready to take it IFR I'm going to look at a few different companies in redoing the panel.
Very good video and advice. I am adding your advice to my search. I have been looking for a cessna182 for a couple of months, which is a 2004 or newer in that has a g1000 garmin with Wass to do my IFR training. They all seem to be in the $400,000 range. In your opinion, do you feel it's worth spending that level of money if I can easily afford it.
Yes, but I would suggest just renting for your IFR training and get through that. There's some great choices in the 400k range that are much faster than a 182. Personally I bought a JMB VL3, yeah it's only two seats, but less seats = less pressure from pax to go fly, and the plane does 170+ knots on 6 gallons per hour. Like I said, best to rent first, get the rating, then shop.
Maybe consider a fast sleek LSA, Bonanza is a little known for weak climb, poor glide, inability to do impossible turn and maybe 5x more expensive per hour or distance. No ballistic chute either. If you do mortgages you should appreciate how much 5x is.
@@ChavngRynsPvts yeah VL3 915 is fairly capable and among the faster but unfortunately very overpriced. Also retractable gear doesn't fly in USA unless fully certified and I don't think it is. Carbon Design FM250 Vampire II is a great looking fast bird I was offered for 83700€ factory built with parachute but unfortunately I don't think they make a 915 version. Otherwise great price. Lancair 320 is also an option I guess. More modern than the post WW2 planes but kit build and don't have a chute
@@DanFrederiksen VL3 is overpriced in relation to what? Like a Porsche GT3 is overpriced to a Volkswagen Golf? I guess. Retract flies just fine in the US, it's called Experimental. As far as the Vampire is concerned, I know nothing about them, but 87k sounds like they're going out of business or not paying labor costs. The Rotax is a 40k engine alone, I just don't see how they're making money at that price. Regardless, it's a fixed gear 120kt plane, the VL3 is a retract, 170kt plane. And Lancairs are well, Lancairs, they aren't forgiving like a light sport.
@@ChavngRynsPvts the 915 is 40k, 912 is not. And I did some math on labor costs at their eastern european VL3 factory, every month they have about 2 million dollar surplus. On a handful of a planes. It costs them very little to make them and they charge a house for one. What people work 30 years to pay for. They are very overpriced.
@@DanFrederiksen they have a surplus because they're selling them like crazy, I forgot surpluses are bad, and companies should operate at a loss. JMB just built a brand new assembly facility and have expanded the company because of their "surplus". Over 600 VL3s bought and built, half these other composite companies can't stay in business long enough to build even 25 planes. Just stop complaining about the price of a premier aircraft in the class it's in. Last I checked it's a brand new plane, yet some 15+ year old planes are commanding equal or more money. So again, the plane is overpriced in relation to what? Find me a retract that does 200mph, burns 5gph, and has a stall under 45kts for under 125k. You can't.
Or, if you're young and pretty like you, you could date Belichick and he'd buy you a brand new Airbus A320 to carry all your College sorority sisters 😂
Can I ask ,how do I get a lady like you for a marring kind ,,wow smart and pretty,and sweet on my eyes, thanks fly in the sky,fun for you thanks , I will and I will stay on the ground ,as I get sea sick real easy, lol thanks BigAl California praise Jesus Christ grace amen 🙏
H68 hanger 5!! That’s me! I’d fly with you anytime!! You are awesome girl! You are a dream girl for sure! Never settle for someone who doesn’t satisfy you in every way imaginable! You deserve the best!! ❤
Interesting video. In the 44 years I'd been flying, it never occurred to me to actually purchase my own plane! I spent decades flying "other" people's aircraft and really enjoyed it right up until retirement in 2021 aged 62. My final flight was in a "borrowed" Airbus A380-800 and I then spent the next week crying every day. I missed it so much. Enjoy your flying days. It's a fantastic career and a wonderful experience. Cheers from Australia.
Did you completely stop flying at 62? Why?
@@Tom_in_CA Commercial passenger is 62 years of age Part 121. I ended up with 40,234 logbook flight hours ending with my final flight into YSSY in the wonderful A380-800. Stay well!
She needs to be honest, she doesn't know how to buy a plane. She obviously comes from a rich family of privilege. She doesn't understand buying or selling of anything
So refreshing to see younger adults displaying a passion for something and then making it happen! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Great Video! I will be buying a plane in the Spring and will definitely use your advice.
I admire you as a young lady for being a great pilot and setting all your goals on bettering yourself financially. Thanks for sharing.
I was looking a year and a half ago and I was dead set on a 210, but a really nice Debonair popped up, and I realized I didn’t need a suburban in the sky, and I feel buying the debonair was the best decision I made. We love it
Same. Best decision I ever made. What a fantastic aircraft. C33-io550 STC
Thank you for the video! I'm 62 with 210hr in a 172. I'll only have one airplane in my life, so deciding is very important to me. I've put the Bonana's at the top of my list. My plane would be what I finish my IFR in, and mostly travel. I also live in the mountains (Montana) so performance is important to me as well.
That's so exciting! Another airplane I love that's high performance and is close to the 172 is the 182. I actually flew one into Kalispell over the Rockies a few years back and it did great. Good luck on your journey, I love seeing other women in aviation!
When you started, I thought “I hope she looked at the Comanche 250/260!”…. Glad you considered it. The Deb is a beautiful plane as well.
You are the real deal, so inspirational! I’m just getting started with my training down here in Florida and I hope to be a plane owner in the future!
Very nice. I'm an instructor in Reno and have bought two airplanes... it's definitely a process (especially the first time!) and you seem to have found a great one. Beechcraft builds a solid aircraft.
Even though I am 70 and don't fly anymore, I enjoy this content Thanks Hayley!
Great video and outstanding tutorial Hayley! The smile count in this video, tells me you made the right choice 🤗
I just closed on a "Baby Beech" last week. Funny enough, I ALMOST bought a Commander 112. The 114 or 115 is definitely on my "next plane" list. My overall experience was smoothish, and mostly like yours. There were 4 different planes I seriously considered before the one I finally purchased, all of which I passed on for various reasons. The purchase contract, escrow company, and a pre-buy inspection are HARD musts in my opinion. A few things I'd mention... 1. Add $10K for taxes, escrow fees, loan broker fees, etc. into the budget 2. Get insurance quotes early! My closing was delayed by my insurance company, even though they had everything they needed two weeks prior. 3. Ask the finance company for airplane requirements! One of the loan companies wanted me to finance (or pay out of packet) an overhaul on any engine not previously overhauled in 20 years, no matter how many hours or what the pre-buy results were.
All such great points thanks for adding to the video! Congratulations on your "baby beech"! It's a very good feeling to successfully close as there are quite a few steps to it
Great video. Here in Kansas there is a pilot who had an airstrip next to his house. He loved flying, no hangar fees and the airstrip was right there. Like your tips and tricks!
You go girl! Thanks for the inspiration. Great information. Happy flying! Hello to Debbie too!
thanks for the information. Congratulations to you - you worked hard and earned the success that you're enjoying.
I’ve never heard of a cylinder reading bad one day and good another day of the compression test was done correctly i’d like to hear more about that one.
I just found your channel earlier today & subscribed based on your awesome aerial tour of Lake Tahoe.
So of course when i saw this video I _had_ to check it out.
Best video _ever_ on how to actually buy an airplane! No bullshit, no hard sell sales pitch, which I never find useful. Just great advice with a logical, stepwise approach🖤🖤
I'm glad you loved the tour! It's one of my favorite places in the world and always feel so lucky to be able to fly around it. I'm so glad you found the how to buy video helpful! When I was looking and watched RUclips videos, they all kind of said the same thing so I was hoping to dive a little deeper for those who felt like I did. Thanks for the sub!
I am not a pilot just an aviation enthusiast, congratulations, you are a hard working young lady and you deserve it.
Enjoy your Debi and many years of enjoyment. See you on the next one. Safe travels.
I appreciate this, your experience is more recent than most of the other plane buying videos on youtube right now. I'm currently searching a for a plane (172-sized or comparable) while also navigating the loan process. Every day I check barnstormers, trade-a-plane, and FB marketplace. Totally agree about Controller having some slightly higher-priced listings. Thanks for sharing your story!
Not going to be buying a plane but you done a Great job of explaining the pros and cons of buying a plane.
A few weeks ago I was about to hook up the boat and go fishing, my passion for many years since not riding Harley's or flying aircraft anymore. When I was learning to fly, my favorite aircraft were a 1968 C-150 AeroBat that I learned to fly in. After that, I checked out in a C-172 and a Piper PA-28-160. Up here in NorCal (CIC/O37/0O4) it gets hot, really hot like 112 degrees that day, not good for fishing or flying. So I plopped down in front of my computer and decided to watch the DA62 checkout you posted and thought wow what a nice aircraft and an easy going low key pilot, yes you Hayley. Well today was a repeat of that same scenario, was going to head out to go fishing, but this time not only was it getting hot, after getting a light malfunction warning from the truck, I found a broken wire on the trailer, so half my lights were not working, plus it's 109 right now, so again, decided to not go fishing and came back inside to watch videos, again. After watching a couple of my favorites, I saw on the side bar of videos to watch, the "I bought my own airplane!! Meet "Debi" the 1966 C33A Beechcraft Debonair" So I gave it a click and wow what a great buy! Many years ago an acquaintance of mine had a Debo that's what he called it, after many years he sold it then bought a Baron, way above my pay grade lol. Anyway, I watched all the other videos associated with the Debonair, by the way, which are very nice aircraft, they were high end in cost, performance and luxury back in 1966. After watching your videos I couldn't help but hit the subscribe button! Looking forward to more flying adventures and your laid back style of flying. Your Debi is beautiful and you're adorable! Thank you! 😎
awesome, insightful and informative video. thanks for sharing
I’ve purchased several airplanes. The fastest deal I’ve ever closed was a cash purchase, counting from the day I found it, all my due diligence to signing was 30 days. I don’t recall if you mentioned it but you need to use an escrow company when paying cash. Another way to find an airplane you want is to send out inquiries via email or snail mail to owners that own the kind of airplane you want, you never know who is sitting on a plane that would like to sell but isn’t advertising it. Congrats on your airplane purchase.
As always, thanks for sharing Hayley. Sadly, being retired, affording an airplane isn't in the budget. Once upon a time, way, way back before Hayley was born, I had wrapped up my commercial training program and just adding hours to my log book before scheduling my checkride, when I was "diagnosed" with one of those you ain't flying anymore "diseases." Years later, it was proven to be a mis-diagnosis, but the damage had been done, my career in aviation was gone forever or so I thought for 40 years. My love for aviation never faded.
Fast forward to 2023 when for some mysterious reason I attended an AOPA "Rusty Pilot" seminar at the Buckeye Air Fare...a little voice in my head was asking, I wonder??? A consultation with an AME answered the question, it was a yes I think it's doable. The old "diagnosis" was never an issue, but I did have coronary bypass surgery in 2014, so a Special Issuance was the ticket. Earlier this year, my 3rd Class SI was issued.
I've been with a CFI for a while, getting back up to speed, learning some new stuff as well...things have changed out there, with airspace, avionics, ATC communication, navigation. Back when I was flying, transponders were a luxury, GPS didn't exist, it was an analog world in every way. I've logged 15 hours now in a 172 with a pair of Garmin G5's, and a GNS 430. Between my CFI's "day job" schedule and now the summer heat here in AZ, it's forced a "pause." But it give me some time to put some more training money aside.
Once I do get my "extended" flight review signed off, renting seems my only option. Sadly there are no rentals at my local field KCGZ. I'll have to drive to KCHD or KAVQ. It's just amazing that I'm even flying again.
I've been lucky to have met a few of the aircraft owners at KCGZ, one of whom turned out live a couple of blocks from me and I've been able to fly with him from time to time.
I just turned 60, going for a sport pilot license (no medical needed) I’ve already passed the Sport Pilot FAA written test. As of today I have 2.5 hours of flight training in…I wish I could train everyday, but logistics prevents that. One day at a time.
Geat video Hayley. I bought a Rockwell Commander 112A last year, the 114 was out of my price range. I'm so happy with this 112. I bought it to build time to ATP, so its perfect. It's not that fast which is good for building time and it has a very comfortable cabin (i'm 6'2" 210lbs). It's in really good shape, low time and i do my own maintenance (I'm an A&P). I live in Vegas so I have to deal with heat (density alt) but it does good. if you're ever in Vegas, lets go fly.
Congratulations on "Debbie".. Great video and explanation.. One other topic you may want to hit on in another video is insurance. That can have a big impact on the total expenses a particular plane may have. I just called for an insurance quote for a similar Debonair, and with my low TT and lack of model type, my annual insurance would be $8,000/yr.. ouch.. so... that has a significant sway in which type of plane you may be considering.
Very true! Luckily since I have my CFI and some time under the belt I was quoted $3k, I believe the amount of time you have retract as well matters. A route I've heard is doing the ABS ground training and flight that can cut insurance costs.
Thanks for all the information I look forward to your next video.
Great informative video!
Beautiful, articulate and uber smart. You're going to go far Hailey. Let nothing or no one get in the way. Wishing you clear skies, smooth flight, and a safe journey ahead.
Hi Hayley, Thank you for telling me How to buy an airplane. I wanted to be a pilot and buy an airplane, but unfortunately I'm suffering from nervous breakdown and unable to drive a plane. Infact I feel happy to support female pilots like you. You are my best pilot Hayley and you are a successful, skillful pilot who is ready to face any challenge in your plane driving. I love supporting you Hayley
Awesome video, very helpful. Keep it up.
Great tips Hayley! Congrats on Debi. Hope to see it at AirVenture!
Thank you, looking forward to seeing photos of Debbie.
Another great video glad to see your increasing your video output.
Just one quick addition to the great advice you gave on trying to find an aircraft, if you know what sort of aircraft you want to buy the aircraft owners association can be a great source for aircraft that's for sale plus also a lot of great information about that particular aircraft.
They would be organizations like Mooney aircraft owners association, Cherokee aircraft owners association etc.
And lastly I would be curious to know why you didn't consider a Mooney?
Yes and a big thumbs up to Josh C 7091 on getting your subscriber base up to 100K❤
thank you, Hayley for that video.
You look stunning Hayley. Your eyes are beautiful. Stay safe!
Thanks for sharing your adventure ma'am with your purchase of your airplane... I found a 1960 Deb, looks great for 99k but it needs some tlc. Lol. Again, thanks for sharing your story
Similar thought process in my story, and it happened just down the road from where you pick up your Diamond Stars. As soon as I chose to go with an experimental aircraft, an RV9 popped up on Trade-a-Plane located a 5 hour drive away. My local mechanic had built an RV, so the prebuy with him was trustworthy and quick, and the owner let me fly it to my home field if his instructor came along, which also was convenient because I used him to complete a checkout in the airplane. I had previously been renting a Comanche. However, we didn't have a purchase contract, but we spent quite a bit of time talking face to face and on the phone; the owner seemed rather particular about who he was going to sell it to, and I apparently fit the bill better than other tire kickers. Fortunately, at the same time a hangar came up on the field. I was actually quite surprised at how smoothly it all went. I only looked at one aircraft. Beginner's luck? Perhaps, but since then nothing but the grin, lots of flying (KOSH, Sun-n-Fun, west coast)... and maintenance. 😉 If only I could have done this when I was 26! Good video, Hayley.
What were some of the factors in your decision to purchase an RV9 instead of a certified aircraft?
@@edb7742 Performance compared to certified. Complete my own maintenance.
As a asset protection expert I would recommend that you find the hanger first, they are in short supply;
second you form a formal entity to own any aircraft because it is a risky asset;
consult with a expert on the FAA ownership rules; especially if you intend to use it for income tax benefits;
and the tax code for your state where you are parking an aircraft and federal tax code on business use and depreciation and tax deduction ( goes back to entity form)
Beware of FL and any coastal areas where aircraft have been sitting.
In 2024 flipping houses especially FL is catching a falling knife.
Also selling investment property is a taxable event.
Great video Haley! Will you be able to share the math/spreadsheet in looking at the numbers? That will be super helpful. Many thanks
Super cool video! I just bought an airplane about a year ago and your video is spot on!! Keep the content coming, you’re awesome! However, I’m a “high wing” guy, I won’t hold that against you, LOL,,😂😂! Love you kiddo!
I'm very impressed with your journey.
Yes, the 260 hp Debbie is faster than both the Comanche and Rockwell 114 as they both have much wider cabins. The Bonanza wing and NACA series 23000 airfoil is probably the most used and best compromise of all airfoils. It was used in the P-38. F6F, F8F, many Lockheeds and Douglas designs. It's one of the reasons Bonanzas fly and handle so well. Savvy is a good resource, I've known Mike Busch for over 30 years, he's a good guy and very knowledgeable. Another good resource is Aviation Consumer and their used aircraft guides with copious info on used and new aircraft. You forgot to mention aircraft owners groups. ABS (American Bonanza Society), Piper owners ass'n, Censsna Owners ass'n, Mooney pilots and so many more. You can learn so much, problem areas, maintenance, the best shops, finding parts,etc. Never used a broker or bought from a broker and had no issues in buying and selling a dozen birds, some of that helping friends buy/selling birds. Also need to consider insurability of the plane and pilot.
Great video. I want to buy in the next year or so, but I am so stressed about not screwing up the pre buy inspection.
The Comanche has been my favorite forever 🎸
Very interesting this one to me cos it's almost the same process as buying a boat, which I have some experience of. If you can think of running a second camera for these talking head kind of segments and switching between them, It will add a bit more dynamic and sustain viewer attention, (not that you need much of that 🙂😍).
Outstanding video!
Purchased 1947 J3 Piper Cub, totally restored with a metal spar and prop as the last Fathers Day Gift for my 30K ATP Dad! Paid $14500.00 back in 1986 which was all the money back then. Dad never got to fly it, but saw it one time and openly wept... Well WORTH The Price!
what a beautiful story - I've never flown in a 1940's cub but there is one on the field I've seen in Carson City. Will have to go up in it one day!
@@FlywithHayley ... every place that I stopped for fuel on the way from Madison WI to Buffalo, NY people would take measurements for their own wrecked one! Wood County Ohio, I came over the fence pretty hot and used up about 2500 feet of runway, a guy told me that you can take off and land one of these in about 300 ft! As he looked me over (designer jeans and tassled loafers with my JEP Gase buckled in to the front seat I explained that I am used to anything falling out of the sky in less than 100 kts...he asked what I flew and I answered Cessna 340A, Cessna Conquest 1 ce425 and King Air 200! He called me a "Corporate HOT DOG" and walked away ';-) Thanks for letting me share a little of my Fathers Day "Frank Story" with you albeit 38 years ago!!
great info! glad you went the "Debi" route😉 such a beautiful plane! Congrats on everything so far! really enjoy flying with ya, seeing each step along the flight (radio calls and trying to decipher them)😊 ps what kind of range does debi get?? keep up the great content!👍
So intelligent & knowledgable.
Good video. Fly safe 🤙🏼
My father was posted to Libya, North Africa when I was about 3. The Sarah desert started at the end of our property. One night my father left his brand new VW beetle outside, a sandstorm blew up and sandblasted the car. He had to have it resprayed. Just imagine if that happened to Debby.
I did consider learning to fly and purchasing an aircraft. To commute from the UK to Brittany France the route took me across the English Channel just touching the Bay of Biscay.
During the winter solstice some years the ferries will not leave port. The weather can be bad. A light aircraft was lost in the English Channel in the last few years.
I decided I needed a twin-engine aircraft.
After going through all the issues I decided not to purchase the aircraft.
another nice video thanks
It seems that this “buy a nice airplane” business is easy. First, you round up a bunch of money. Second, you think about what you want to do with the airplane. Third (and most important) you call Hayley, and let her guide you through the whole thing, so you don’t have to worry about making a mistake! :)
Really vague stuff here, I’m not saying she needs to justify or layout the checkbook receipts but I didn’t get anything from this that was really helpful.
I’m glad you chose the Bonanza, the Comanche is okay but no. It’s unfortunate that the price of airplanes have gone up so much.
I believe the Comanche is a superior plane, especially comparing a 260 to this model debonair. I don't know why she said it's 20kts slower, because it's def not. It's wider, larger baggage area, stronger wing, higher fuel capacity and I prefer Lycoming over continental and normally greater useful load. Only problem with the Comanche is the bulk of them are from the 60's.
loved your content really helpful btw are you looking for video editor?
Do you think that the Diamond FADEC planes are a superior design and better to fly? How are the seats for long flights in the low end Diamonds?
What ownership paperwork is involved? How is the planes registration transferred? (Is it like a cars pink slip?) How do you know that you are buying the plane from the legal owner?
Nice content. You may want to think about posting deals you learn about and earn bird dog fee if you connect the seller and buyer.
Hayley would you think if you know you are going to need financing that this should be one of the first stages of buying a plane? Even before finding the one you want?
Yes they all come into play pretty early. It’s good to get your documents in and an approval from the lender before committing to an airplane. Good point!
The bank that gives out the loan may have criteria for aircraft on order to certify the loan (overhaul in last 20 years, times under certain time/tbo, adsb etc) so be aware of that
What do think about joining a club? I know you must share the aircraft. They have rules.
Welcome to florida! Have you flown out of KFXE yet?
Is it possible to take ppl training in a the Debinair or ANY single prop for that matter? Great channel, Great content!
thankyou! most training begins with a singe engine prop plane. I wouldn’t recommend the Debonair for initial training, (it’s fast and complex) but after gaining some experience it’s a great airplane to fly!
Hey, Hayley. Not sure what you're using for editing, but the cuts tend to cut out your voice frequently. It's not too bad, but if you're using automated software, you may not have realized it. Appreciate the video ☺
Thumbs up 👍 for your information thanks. ✅
Boooo! Comanche all the way! I do like the Deb though. I only went with the Piper because too many mechanics warned me that the maintenance will be more expensive with the Beechcraft. I do look at Debs on the ramp and pause...
Great video….how was getting insurance on your first plane?
Did you obtain insurance estimates before your purchase, or was that not an issue because you've already built up substantial flying hours?
Will you be at Osh Kosh?
How do we get flight training with you?
Aqeel ❤
Nice video Hayley! It sure would be nice if there was a service that would bundle all these tasks into one package and just deliver the airplane of your choice already inspected and reconditioned to a hangar or tie down at your home base.
It’s awesome that you are living your dreams. You’re a fantastic girl keep up living your life the way you want it. Safe flying
Are you going (or thinking) in an avionic update?
Only if she gets it for free
I am! Right now I'm happy flying around VFR getting to know my airplane. When I'm feeling ready to take it IFR I'm going to look at a few different companies in redoing the panel.
Very good video and advice. I am adding your advice to my search. I have been looking for a cessna182 for a couple of months, which is a 2004 or newer in that has a g1000 garmin with Wass to do my IFR training. They all seem to be in the $400,000 range. In your opinion, do you feel it's worth spending that level of money if I can easily afford it.
Yes, but I would suggest just renting for your IFR training and get through that. There's some great choices in the 400k range that are much faster than a 182. Personally I bought a JMB VL3, yeah it's only two seats, but less seats = less pressure from pax to go fly, and the plane does 170+ knots on 6 gallons per hour. Like I said, best to rent first, get the rating, then shop.
Maybe consider a fast sleek LSA, Bonanza is a little known for weak climb, poor glide, inability to do impossible turn and maybe 5x more expensive per hour or distance. No ballistic chute either. If you do mortgages you should appreciate how much 5x is.
JMB VL3 has entered the chat. 😎
@@ChavngRynsPvts yeah VL3 915 is fairly capable and among the faster but unfortunately very overpriced. Also retractable gear doesn't fly in USA unless fully certified and I don't think it is. Carbon Design FM250 Vampire II is a great looking fast bird I was offered for 83700€ factory built with parachute but unfortunately I don't think they make a 915 version. Otherwise great price.
Lancair 320 is also an option I guess. More modern than the post WW2 planes but kit build and don't have a chute
@@DanFrederiksen VL3 is overpriced in relation to what? Like a Porsche GT3 is overpriced to a Volkswagen Golf? I guess. Retract flies just fine in the US, it's called Experimental. As far as the Vampire is concerned, I know nothing about them, but 87k sounds like they're going out of business or not paying labor costs. The Rotax is a 40k engine alone, I just don't see how they're making money at that price. Regardless, it's a fixed gear 120kt plane, the VL3 is a retract, 170kt plane. And Lancairs are well, Lancairs, they aren't forgiving like a light sport.
@@ChavngRynsPvts the 915 is 40k, 912 is not. And I did some math on labor costs at their eastern european VL3 factory, every month they have about 2 million dollar surplus. On a handful of a planes. It costs them very little to make them and they charge a house for one. What people work 30 years to pay for. They are very overpriced.
@@DanFrederiksen they have a surplus because they're selling them like crazy, I forgot surpluses are bad, and companies should operate at a loss. JMB just built a brand new assembly facility and have expanded the company because of their "surplus". Over 600 VL3s bought and built, half these other composite companies can't stay in business long enough to build even 25 planes. Just stop complaining about the price of a premier aircraft in the class it's in. Last I checked it's a brand new plane, yet some 15+ year old planes are commanding equal or more money. So again, the plane is overpriced in relation to what? Find me a retract that does 200mph, burns 5gph, and has a stall under 45kts for under 125k. You can't.
Bad business decisions are made when you let emotions influence your decisions.
You have the most beautiful eyes.
I’d be concerned with not knowing if it’s flight worthy. $$$$$ to make it so .
Can you do a video on how to find a girl with a plane? 😄
Only other partner is the BANK!? (But at least they don't fly it)
Hello. are. how Aqeel
I have such a crush on you. You're so cute and smart wow piloting is so cool. :)
Now is you will go through the same pre-buy process when selecting a husband, you will be just fine. Leave emotions out of it lol.
Starting to really like your content but your cuts are like a Quinten Tarrentino film.....
show me.
I thought you’d end up with a king air ! Jk
Or, if you're young and pretty like you, you could date Belichick and he'd buy you a brand new Airbus A320 to carry all your College sorority sisters 😂
Hate to state the obvious, but I didn't think pilots were supposed to be that pretty.
ohhh my god can i have a date lol
Por SHA.
Can I ask ,how do I get a lady like you for a marring kind ,,wow smart and pretty,and sweet on my eyes, thanks fly in the sky,fun for you thanks , I will and I will stay on the ground ,as I get sea sick real easy, lol thanks BigAl California praise Jesus Christ grace amen 🙏
damn your a beautiful lady
Very interesting, thanks
I have been a member of the AOPA for several years
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Consumption at maximum range (FL180, 45% PWR) 30.2 l/h 8 gal/h
Consumption (12,000 ft, 60% REP) 38.9 lt/h 10.3 gal/h
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H68 hanger 5!! That’s me! I’d fly with you anytime!! You are awesome girl! You are a dream girl for sure! Never settle for someone who doesn’t satisfy you in every way imaginable! You deserve the best!! ❤
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I find channel like @CompleteWalkaround makes the research process much easier.
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Thanks so much Josh!! 🙏🏼