Vader 4 Pro Review Tuesday, All thoughts in this video remain the same including the Vader 3 Pro recommendation at the end of the video. 4 is good though, it’s just not much different and a bit harder to get right now (longer wait).
I bought the Vader 3 Pro after watching your review. So I've been waiting for your Vader 4 Pro review. But is too late now, I just received it yesterday, and is absolutely awesome.
@kenzilbaptiste2519 I prefer the scuff elite back paddle , they are perfect for me it would be a game changer for the apex 4 and really make it the best
I bought a Vader 3 pro off of your review/recommendation, I love everything about it but I don't really use the CZ buttons for anything. I ended up buying a second Vader 3 pro and I got both of mine on Amazon on sale for $55.
The plastic under your left joystick will most likely crack within the first 2 months rendering the controller useless. Many, many reports of this. Just returned mine. I also own the Vader 3 Pro. It is not as good as the Apex, but the left stick base doesn't crack. Otherwise it is the best I have used. But it's weak and breaks.
I’ve seen this too. On Reddit and Amazon reviews. In a game where you click down to sprint a lot (like CoD). Something to do with a part being made out of plastic not strong enough.
@@GamerHeavenOfficialCould this be linked to that Flydigi post about defective controllers caused by a faulty machine in their factory? I know ppl who have abused the hell out of their Apex 4, and it's still holding up really well.
Love my Apex 4, but can't wait to see how the Vader 4 holds up under your scrutiny. Especially at half the cost. With it's FlyDigi software looking like it's got the same customization as the Apex4, it might be a frontrunner. Especially if we can map the C/Z as much as the back buttons (like keyboard inputs on PC)
do vader 4 pro , it just launched and everyone seems to like it . i think it has all the points you wish in the apex 4 such as easer to adjust sticks, no screen , faster to pair up ,and the C and Z button as well . Good Day
don't forget the Vader has real trigger locks! So i say Vader is better for FPS and fighting games (bc of CZ buttons)I got mine last weeks, and I am stunned. I have owned everything including Elite 2 and Scuf Envision pro. Vader has better sticks than either of them. Butter smooth and micro adjustable. Just wish Vader had m5 and m6 buttons up by the bumpers like the older Flydigis and the Razer controllers.
I think it would be cool to see some fighting game controller reviews for controllers like the Hori Fighting Commander series or the Razer Raion. Still looking for the ultimate fight pad but currently using the GameSir Kaleid as I love the mechanical buttons and the D-pad. Keep up the quality reviews.
The screen is really what punches the Apex 4 in the nuts. It just makes the whole thing too complicated for its own good compared to the Vaders just letting you grip it and rip it. Between that and the stick modules/caps cracking and Flydigi's sadly endemic QC issues I don't think the price can be justified, especially when the Vader 4 Pro also offers a more accessible, if less fine-tuned tension control system. Wonder what the hell they'll do for the Apex 5. Maybe be complete madlads and bring back the third analog from the Apex 2? If there's one thing that's nice about Flydigi it's that they don't rest on their laurels. They don't just shit out random sidegrades like Gamesir or objectively inferior units like PDP.
I want Steam Controller 2 (with those sticks n trigs), m4 and m5 buttons on top, and swipable, scrollabe, clickable, pressure sensitive trackpad bumpers!
Flydigi has killed it, proper fan, I bought it from gadget hyper, I have 10 limited edition flydigi controllers, my go to is the evangelion apex 4, it actually came with the case and different thumb sticks, I agree with the screen, either make the screen worth having or just ditch it, these so called pro controllers need to do something amazing to compete, I can't wait to see how they improve for the apex5 pro
USPS blew it, was supposed to get my Vader 4 today... Showing up on Monday instead. Ah well. Seems like it'll be the real winner here: all the functionality of the Apex 4 and no screen, plus clicky triggers and the C/Z buttons. I'm also more partial to the black color way than the white Apex 4. Flydigi doesn't miss!
Nice. I came to the same conclusion in my rant a few weeks ago, ha ha. Out of the few high priced controllers I own the Flydigi 4 is easily the most versatile and implements pretty much all the features of the other controllers mostly on par or even better, plus some additional features. Id like to see them implement proper trigger stops instead of the mechanical ones, slightly smaller D-pad and the ability to remap turbo functionality on the pad itself, similiar to the retroflag and M30 retro style controllers. Any other improvements would be very minor. Its gotten to the point that I use the controller on almost everything I play across multiple platforms, including old emulated games on PC (as well as more recent).
The Apex 4 feels pretty responsive and smooth when aiming on FPS games. Idk know if it is because of the 1000hz polling rate, but the aim assist in game seems to feel lessened. Like not as sticky. Well from what I experienced in Xdefiant and Battlefield.
3:32 made me laugh so hard. I've been saying the name just like you've said in the video man and I thought my mind was weird to think like that. hahahhaha thank you for showing I'm not the only one.
I love that this option is available. Definitely competitive and I think they did well. I hate that they failed on the back buttons. It knocks the ergonomics (maybe even the entire controller) down like 20% and almost defeats the purpose of having them. I feel like the envision mitigated having this syle of back buttons by bringing the buttons closer together and implementing the sax buttons. Also, the triggers "locks", eh. Mechanical buttons + rubber or silicone = fail but maybe someone can do this without making it feel like a plunger someday. gg's tho
It would be cool if you did an updated ps5 controller roundup, specifically modded ps5 controllers because 3rd party don't get haptics or adaptive triggers.
my biggest gripe on this controller is the joysticks. They always break!!! Im on my 4th controller and i cant stir away from this controller even though it has this issue. If they can fix this problems this would be my most favorite controller ....
I ordered the Assassin’s Creed Apex 4 from overseas when it was released - if you get the opportunity to pick one up I’d say go for it. It’s just beautiful.
@@DejavulifeI got a standard Apex 4, I decreased the tension on the sticks, have been flicking the sticks and Molly wopping the face buttons for about 15 mins so far it’s nice
Thank you! I ordered mine on the 11th of July and it should be arriving by the 24th of July. Not too shabby from China to Canadia. I paid $94 USD for it. The excite is exponential at this point. (My Scuf Instinct Pro was awesome but one of the back buttons has snapped off and the right stick has the dreaded stick drift - no more POTS for this gamer) Anyhoo, thank you AGAIN for giving us your honest info...
@@ry0usama511 Do you mean the Honkai: Star Rail Firefly Limited Edition? I really love the colour way on that one. I think I would do the Assassin's Creed colour way myself.
Kevin, thanks again for all your research and reviews. I decided a couple of weeks ago to pull the trigger on the Apex 4. After setting up the software and updating to the latest firmware, I decided to test both the polling and circularity. While I was blown away by the polling, for some odd reason most controllers that I have bought based on your feedback, I never get a zero circularity test like you do. They are mostly in the 5% to 10% range. Is that a normal range or should I send it back for on that will test at 0%?
Thanks AK! Love these videos. You've saved me tons of time when selecting pro controllers. I run the Victrix Pro on my PS5, Elite Series 2 on XBox and looking for a 3rd to use with my pc which I use the other 2 with but want to add one more. Trying not to tire those other ones out too quickly. I have a quick question though. Is the only way to achieve the sniper stick heighth on the Vader or Apex by means of Kontrol Freak cap or can I swap the sticks out? Right now I'm diggin a short domed left stick and tall concave right stick. Thanks dude!
Bought my Apex 4 and just now the Assassin's Creed edition Vader 4 Pro, AliExpressed it dude, although I am in Australia usually a week and a half shipping. Closer to China I guess..Love the Apex 4, think the on the fly tension change for the joysticks and trigger locks on the Vader 4 Pro will be awesome.
Vader 3 pro I really enjoyed but for some reason my in game camera would jolt around a couple times per game session as if it was short circuiting or something. Returned for an Apex 4 and have not looked back man this thing is an absolute monster across the board.
Lmao your video pushed me to get this roller when i already have a instinct pro but i have to send it in because my trigger mainly will randimly go off.
I have been using this controller for 3 days and already doing better on warzone compared to the g7se, mostly going from 2 buttons to 4 buttons have made me a better player but dude my favorite thing in the controller is the trigger lock feature. I have mine set to 20 the lowest and at first I was pressing to hard during gun fights but now on day three I’m so used to it.
I need an Xbox/PC controller that has the hall effect for joysticks and the share button. Which one would you recommend? >>PS: the controller needs to be wireless, have 4 paddle controls with the remapping ability, and a share button like Xbox Controllers.
@@victororozcojulio121 thanks for the reply. forgot to mention that the controller needs to be wireless. the controller also needs to have 4 paddles in the back that can be remapped.
The Vader 4 is $80 compared to the $160 of the Apex 4 “I got it for $130 on Prime Day”. Vader 4 pro also has the 2 extra buttons on the front of the controller and a better system to adjust the stick tension. Why is the Apex 4 so much more expensive? Is it because the interactive screen? It’s by far the most premium feeling controller I’ve ever had though. Was debating selling this and getting Vader 4 pro for cheaper once it’s on Amazon.
Hi bro,✌️I have a question, do you know a way to change profiles faster? like apex 3. to avoid going to the menu all the time and changing profiles??🤔🤙
the haptic feedback and screen are a gimmick on the Apex 4. And it not having the same trigger locks as the Vader 3 and 4 is a deal breaker for me. I'm surprised by your conclusion ngl
@@GamerHeavenOfficial You said yourself in THIS video that you don't even like the screen and it should be ditched, but when I call it a gimmick you get defensive? Odd.
Does the Xbox Series not give an error saying "A connected accessory is not authorized" with the Wingman XB you have in your description? Is there a better adapter that works?
the ONLY thing this controller is missing in my opinion are the extra shoulder buttons! I loved the apex 2 just has too much input lag, combine both of these and controllers and it’s the best of everything
This video is actually incredibly accurate… Guys it’s true… this controller literally has everything on top of amazing hall effect thumb sticks. I was about to lose hope on these Chinese controllers to be quite frank because they all lacked one thing or the other or were a complete lie, but this controller really has proven them all wrong… Not only has it done that but it’s remained very consistent as well as I have had it literally since day one and I’ve had no problems
I was thinking of buying this controller. I play Tekken 8 a lot and seeing that it has membrane rubber used in the dpad might not be good for fighting games. Any recommendation for fighting games with mechanical switch and hall effect thumb stick?
I’m probably not the best to ask. 1. I don’t play many fighting games 2. I don’t use the dpad much 3. Tekken is fuggin’ awesome! Just had to put that in there lol
I'm not a great Tekken player, I mainly use my Vader 3 Pro for Street Fighter 6 but... the Flydigi mechanical d-pad is EXCELLENT for fighting games. I fully recommend the Vader and Apex controller d-pads for fighting games. Also the Flydigi d-pad is mechanical. It is by far the most accurate d-pad I've ever used for Street Fighter 6, better than the 8bitdo d-pads.
I like racing Sims but I don't have the money for a good steering/pedal system. Does anyone know of a controller with stiff triggers? I'd like more resistance than normal so I can turn TCS off completely 😅
Do you have a favorite controller purely based on thumb stick feel, and do you prefer the feel of analog potentiometers or Hall effect? I like the feeling of a tension/centering spring & I’m not sure if hall effect feels the same…. That would definitely be the deciding factor of if I switch to Hall effect or stay with an analog potentiometer
God damn brother (sorry to take the lords name in vein) I could (and should) make a video on this but: -edge -vader/apex4 -mmmm can’t think of a last one lol
@@GamerHeavenOfficial now that I’m hearing about more of the PS5 controller features… they’re starting to sound less gimmicky…. Guess I didn’t wanna hear about it cause I’m on Xbox 😅
i have my apex 4 for almost 7 months now, it is indeed a great controller, but just a tip for those who wanna go for it, the RGB is absolutely garbage, which for me is a big point since in to customization, and no rewasd support so far, so there is that
Funny enough, this is the video I’ve been looking for the past few days. Whether I choose the Apex 4 or one of the Vader 3/4 pro controllers. What adapters/ converters do you guys recommend for connecting to my Xbox X. Please help!
@@GamerHeavenOfficial watching your most recent video, it is safe to say I was and still am right, even you prefer the vader 4 pro lol, Apex 4 is just not more than double the price for less controller
does the adjustable stick tension fix the loose recentering spring that people claim hall effect sticks have? also I wanted to ask what do you think is the best style of back buttons/paddles and the best layout for them?
New mechanism solves this problem completely. Unless you choose to play with the lowest tension, from my experience centering will be perfect. But even with tension set to lowest it is very good.
I think I prefer the back buttons on the apex 4 over all elite controllers personally. It feels much more natural than resting my fingers on the protrusions that are multiple back paddles. The buttons on the apex 4 are set in a way that your middle finger will naturally rest perfectly in the center of the two pairs of buttons. 2 buttons on the left half and 2 more on the right half. You'll naturally find yourself resting in the center of each pair making it still feel like a normal controller making it more ergonomic.
I want this controller for my series X but having to use the wingman xb3 knowing that Xbox will block it (eventually) doesn't seem worth it. building a PC down the road, at that point then I'll get it for that
I much prefer the vader 3 over the apex 4..the apex 4 feels so heavy. The vader 3 sits perfectly inbetween being to light and too heavy..i find the spring like feel and sound on the thumbsticks annoying on the apex 4 and lastly the true trigger stops on vader 4 are amazing. Literally the same as a mouse click
How do you connect to your Xbox X with this controller...what converter adapter do you have to use because I'm really interested...or is the GameSir G7 SE good enough....had really bad luck with my Elite series 2 controller...really want a good wireless controller....
Was about to ask the exact same thing. He has an adapter in the description but it says it works for Xbox 360 and original Xbox. Doesn't mention Xbox One or Series.
I use the mayflower magic X adaptor, on the apex 3 and 4 controllers, with the xbox series s & x..once the controller is connected to the adaptor thru the wireless dongle or wired, I turn the controller to the Nintendo switch mode, it's read and I turn the controller back to pc mode and it's ready to go.
Hey buddy. I use the brook accessories xb2 linked in the description but I’m making a big comparison video of all the makes and models real real soon with pairing tutorials
Imo if I could have the envision pro with a 1ms oc and Hall effect sticks it would be the best controller. It’s also the most comfortable cuz I got small hands. I play comp cod and most pro controllers paddles or buttons break when I use them and it’s so annoying but the envision pro has the best paddles I ever used. Most paddles have a deley to but envision feels more responsive despite being 500hz. If only I could get 1000hz oc and he sticks on my envision :((
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I prefer it over my dual sense but my dual sense is 1000hz and he sticks so on comp I use that. But the envison feels so nice I can’t wait to see the review you put out
You might be eligible for a free replacement, since Flydigi did admit that they had a faulty machine in their factory, which means that Apex 4 controllers produced between a certain time frame will develop these issues.
I'm currently on an Android Tablet, my Alienware laptops out for the count, little splash of water, she down. so need a comprehensive video on using the Flydigi Game Center app, seems has great potential on the mapping side but very skint on how tos out there. Any advise links etc. all welcome. I'm on PUBG Mobile when I hop in a vehicle how to map the differences.
I just don't know if I can get behind those back buttons. Tempted to snag it on amzn when it goes on sale and just return it if I don't like them. Also, wish it came in a dark version too. I just don't like white-ish things, but that's not a deal breaker.
I'ma just add that I have the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra.. I heard A LOT of complaints so added on a $60 Bester Buyer warranty.. Best controller I've ever used. No disconnects wired or wireless, trigger stops actually work in every game unlike other controllers. I drop 30 extra kills than before with other controllers. Thumbsticks soooo accurate. Best purchase ever.
Absolutely, I’ve been using the stealth ultra the last 6 months and it has become my overall favorite controllers I’ve ever used. The stealth ultra is on a whole nother level definitely worth the price. Best Pro controller on the market
I think what really ruins this controller for me is where the back buttons are and connectivity options. If they could just have those fixed I'd buy it.
Idk man, I much prefer the buttons on the apex 4 over paddles on a kk3 or Xbox elite. They're lowkey and to me they're placed in the perfect spot. My middle fingers naturally rest perfectly in the center of the 2 buttons on each side.
this controller is so good when people ask in my gaming groups what controller they should get and I say apex 4 and I get comments saying I'm buying cheap Chinese stuff and too poor for a elite controller......yeah stick with your overpriced drift coming soon controller. To the few guys the heart or like my comment your the real ones.
I’ve owned one for a while. I just got the Kaleid for Xbox and it’s way better. Still wish it had trigger stops, but it has “hair triggers” that you can activate in the console app. I like it. Also the D-Pad is excellent in my opinion. Not hard to press but not too soft like membrane, so it’s a nice clicky-ish one and my thumb glides across the presses. I play R6S (Rainbow Six Siege) right now, because that’s the ONLY thing my friends play. 😒 and it has definitely upped my game and aim. I can mark things quicker and more efficiently with the D-Pad and that’s a big plus for me. The ABXY buttons are a great mouse click that are easier to actuate than the Turtle Beach Stealth. I returned my Turtle Beach Stealth after 6 months (bought a 2 year warranty with Best Buy so I could do just that) and the Turtle Beach felt SO clunky and the D-Pad got worse with use and the ABXY buttons were getting more difficult to actuate, adding to the “clunkyness” feel of it. Anyway, I digress. If you’re wanting an update on the GameSir controllers because you haven’t purchased one yet, I’d say go ahead and buy a Kaleid (if on Xbox) and be done with it! It’s only around $70 with shipping on Amazon. Great investment, even if you don’t end up liking it, it’s a great back-up for when you need a 2nd controller for friends, or when you’re waiting for another controller to come in.
I use the apex 4 as well. Its battery oddly lasts way longer than vader 3 pro, for me atleast. The most features you could probably ask for in a controller. However some things that piss me off. DS mode does not work seem to work with steam input. This is in general with most controllers with extra buttons, you cant map them separately in steam. Steam in my opinion is just the most feature rich and comprehensive way to configure your controller, with big picture overlay and all the features. If anyone knows a better controller config software that has something similar to big picture overlay. I would very much like to know.
The battery is a 800 mah on Vader 3 pro, 1500 on apex probably to account for the screen and rgb but if you turn that off (can’t fully disable screen as of now) it makes the battery life up to 72 hours in some cases I’ve read. I’m probably clocking about 40-50, I don’t charge it much that’s for sure 👍🏼
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Quite disappointing that they pack such a low capacity battery into the vader 3 pro. I wonder how easy it is to change it. Are the voltages same as a ps5 battery for instance, if they are then it would be really easy. I had a few instances where vader 3 would just turn off randomly when playing elden ring. This used to be a common problem with cheaper controllers or maybe its an indication of a faulty battery.
I have an Apex 4, and I love it. But my vibration in game is weak for some reason. I've confirmed that the vibration is set to max and it works when I test it in the app. It also works in game, but it's never nearly as strong as it is in the app. Playing racing games is trickier because it's hard to feel when the tires are breaking loose. It's too subtle. Any suggestions?
For some context. My plain Jane xbox series x controller is stronger in these games and doesn't give me the same issue. It's the only thing I wish I could change.
On PC Dongle DInput my controller doesn’t really work I don’t see the sticks show up on the input test but there’s a gage that shows the axis working and I can see the button inputs register but when I play FN or COD it just won’t recognize the controller unless I switch it to xinput, is it supposed to be like that?
I've had two of these and the left thumb stick cracked both times with normal use usage in less than a weeks worth of time. I really tried to like it but the quality control is bad. Thankfully was able to get refunds both times through aliexpress. Personally I can't recommend this controller.
According to Flydigi, there was a bad production batch at the beginning of the year, because one of their machines malfunctioned, and all the controllers of that batch have sticks that break. If you have one of those, they are currently offering to send replacement parts, that don't have that weakness. Also, the machine was since fixed.
You better hope the perfect controller doesn't come around. It'd be curtains for you, captain. Lacy, gently wafting curtains. Come on already with the Vader 4 Pro Review ;)
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Also the fact that most of what people like about controllers is entirely subjective, so there will never be anything that is "perfect". We got decades and decades of more controllers to come. How buttons feel, how much they stick out of the shell, the shape of the bumpers or triggers, whether it even has bumpers or shoulder buttons, where the sticks are placed, how much resistance, the material used to make the controller; my point is a LOT of it comes down to subjective preferences. There's no way one single "perfect" controller is coming around any time soon.
Vader 4 Pro Review Tuesday, All thoughts in this video remain the same including the Vader 3 Pro recommendation at the end of the video. 4 is good though, it’s just not much different and a bit harder to get right now (longer wait).
Very cool. Vader 3 Pro has been my main.
Really wish I could have gotten a Vader 3 pro without stick slop. I'll try again on the Vader 4 pro.
@@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Stick slop? What is that?
I already have an apex 4 but since the vader is only $60 on aliexpress why not, I wanna see how good the triggers are and the new joysticks
@@feintexp-2530real what's that mean, on my apex it has a grinding feel in certain directions. I think I just need to lube the bearings but 🤷♂️
I bought the Vader 3 Pro after watching your review. So I've been waiting for your Vader 4 Pro review. But is too late now, I just received it yesterday, and is absolutely awesome.
Hope you enjoy it!
@@GamerHeavenOfficial thank you Stallion
For anyone wondering - Vader 4 Pro is one of the best controllers out there. Really good controller overall.
If you play shooters Vader 4 pro, if you play something else Apex 4
Flydigi has been crushing it, except for them back buttons. They hurt my stallion soul.
Once they make it like Elite 2 controller paddles ,it will be absolutely the best controller in the world.
@@Daniel-uh1ve😂....the elite paddles are not the best ..😅
@@kenzilbaptiste2519 The best for me are Victrix PRO BFG back buttons, the best thing i ever used in my life.
For me it's the triggers. Too squishy. Back buttons are good...not as good as Victrix but feel good once you get used to it
@kenzilbaptiste2519 I prefer the scuff elite back paddle , they are perfect for me it would be a game changer for the apex 4 and really make it the best
I bought a Vader 3 pro off of your review/recommendation, I love everything about it but I don't really use the CZ buttons for anything. I ended up buying a second Vader 3 pro and I got both of mine on Amazon on sale for $55.
The plastic under your left joystick will most likely crack within the first 2 months rendering the controller useless. Many, many reports of this. Just returned mine. I also own the Vader 3 Pro. It is not as good as the Apex, but the left stick base doesn't crack. Otherwise it is the best I have used. But it's weak and breaks.
Let’s see the reports. I feel like this happened to you, now you’re trying to get people to think it’s a wide spread issue.
I’ve seen this too. On Reddit and Amazon reviews. In a game where you click down to sprint a lot (like CoD). Something to do with a part being made out of plastic not strong enough.
@@GamerHeavenOfficialCould this be linked to that Flydigi post about defective controllers caused by a faulty machine in their factory?
I know ppl who have abused the hell out of their Apex 4, and it's still holding up really well.
Love my Apex 4, but can't wait to see how the Vader 4 holds up under your scrutiny.
Especially at half the cost.
With it's FlyDigi software looking like it's got the same customization as the Apex4, it might be a frontrunner. Especially if we can map the C/Z as much as the back buttons (like keyboard inputs on PC)
I love this controller ii when from pplaying at a 7/7 & 15/15 to now a 20/20 on COD and any other FPS game
Holy shit that’s a high sense 💨
do vader 4 pro , it just launched and everyone seems to like it . i think it has all the points you wish in the apex 4 such as easer to adjust sticks, no screen , faster to pair up ,and the C and Z button as well . Good Day
don't forget the Vader has real trigger locks! So i say Vader is better for FPS and fighting games (bc of CZ buttons)I got mine last weeks, and I am stunned. I have owned everything including Elite 2 and Scuf Envision pro. Vader has better sticks than either of them. Butter smooth and micro adjustable. Just wish Vader had m5 and m6 buttons up by the bumpers like the older Flydigis and the Razer controllers.
I made a pinned comment and post on the community page. Good Day
I think it would be cool to see some fighting game controller reviews for controllers like the Hori Fighting Commander series or the Razer Raion. Still looking for the ultimate fight pad but currently using the GameSir Kaleid as I love the mechanical buttons and the D-pad. Keep up the quality reviews.
That’d be sick
Will keep this in mind if my gulikit 2 ever goes out
The screen is really what punches the Apex 4 in the nuts. It just makes the whole thing too complicated for its own good compared to the Vaders just letting you grip it and rip it. Between that and the stick modules/caps cracking and Flydigi's sadly endemic QC issues I don't think the price can be justified, especially when the Vader 4 Pro also offers a more accessible, if less fine-tuned tension control system. Wonder what the hell they'll do for the Apex 5. Maybe be complete madlads and bring back the third analog from the Apex 2? If there's one thing that's nice about Flydigi it's that they don't rest on their laurels. They don't just shit out random sidegrades like Gamesir or objectively inferior units like PDP.
Please review Flydigi Vader 4 Pro too. No one is reviewing it I don't know why. I am extremely curious to see whether it is better than V3 Pro or not.
@@mkatakm I am waiting for mine will make a video as soon as I get it
@@Dejavulife thanks bro
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love my apex 4, I just wish steam input supported it
I want Steam Controller 2 (with those sticks n trigs), m4 and m5 buttons on top, and swipable, scrollabe, clickable, pressure sensitive trackpad bumpers!
bumper idea is kinda sick
I have the flydigy Vader 3 pro since a year ago and still been my best controller ever
Flydigi has killed it, proper fan, I bought it from gadget hyper, I have 10 limited edition flydigi controllers, my go to is the evangelion apex 4, it actually came with the case and different thumb sticks, I agree with the screen, either make the screen worth having or just ditch it, these so called pro controllers need to do something amazing to compete, I can't wait to see how they improve for the apex5 pro
I'm sure you haven't heard this already but we'd love a Vader 4 Pro review. I got one on Ali yesterday.
Waiting for the Vader 4 Pro
USPS blew it, was supposed to get my Vader 4 today... Showing up on Monday instead. Ah well. Seems like it'll be the real winner here: all the functionality of the Apex 4 and no screen, plus clicky triggers and the C/Z buttons. I'm also more partial to the black color way than the white Apex 4. Flydigi doesn't miss!
Brother I feel your pain. I had 2 separate delays waiting for my vader4, and I wasn’t even sure which place I ordered from would arrive first.
Is there going to be an 8BitDo Ultimate 2C review soon? I was going to order G7 SE but saw that 8BitDo released a new model that seems interesting
I wasn’t planning on it but I can
Nice. I came to the same conclusion in my rant a few weeks ago, ha ha. Out of the few high priced controllers I own the Flydigi 4 is easily the most versatile and implements pretty much all the features of the other controllers mostly on par or even better, plus some additional features. Id like to see them implement proper trigger stops instead of the mechanical ones, slightly smaller D-pad and the ability to remap turbo functionality on the pad itself, similiar to the retroflag and M30 retro style controllers. Any other improvements would be very minor. Its gotten to the point that I use the controller on almost everything I play across multiple platforms, including old emulated games on PC (as well as more recent).
The Apex 4 feels pretty responsive and smooth when aiming on FPS games. Idk know if it is because of the 1000hz polling rate, but the aim assist in game seems to feel lessened. Like not as sticky. Well from what I experienced in Xdefiant and Battlefield.
Yes i have same problem with hall efect sticks that why i switch to old version sticks
3:32 made me laugh so hard. I've been saying the name just like you've said in the video man and I thought my mind was weird to think like that. hahahhaha thank you for showing I'm not the only one.
didn't even want this controller but your review made me want it lol
how to use it on xbox sx with high polling rate?
Waiting on this too
I love that this option is available. Definitely competitive and I think they did well. I hate that they failed on the back buttons. It knocks the ergonomics (maybe even the entire controller) down like 20% and almost defeats the purpose of having them. I feel like the envision mitigated having this syle of back buttons by bringing the buttons closer together and implementing the sax buttons. Also, the triggers "locks", eh. Mechanical buttons + rubber or silicone = fail but maybe someone can do this without making it feel like a plunger someday. gg's tho
Yes the rear buttons are a tiny L, not a big one. For me it’s mostly the inner 2 being a bit of a reach.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I get that, I've just been ruined by having 4 fingers for four buttons and some people prefer it
I got my Flydigi Apex 4 from AliExpress for $90 shipped and it arrived in 5 days. It is 100% my favorite controller. Nothing is better.
Do you recall what seller you purchased from on Aliexpress?
@@jmoss97 It says the item is no longer available.
@@jaythejuiceman3000 thx.
That wolf of Wall Street cut away was wild 😂
Lol
It would be cool if you did an updated ps5 controller roundup, specifically modded ps5 controllers because 3rd party don't get haptics or adaptive triggers.
my biggest gripe on this controller is the joysticks. They always break!!! Im on my 4th controller and i cant stir away from this controller even though it has this issue. If they can fix this problems this would be my most favorite controller ....
Surely it can’t be the man breaking the controllers.
Cheers i'll definitely keep this controller in mind when i need a new one.
I ordered the Assassin’s Creed Apex 4 from overseas when it was released - if you get the opportunity to pick one up I’d say go for it. It’s just beautiful.
I just got mine this morning 😀
Which version did you get ?
@@DejavulifeI got a standard Apex 4, I decreased the tension on the sticks, have been flicking the sticks and Molly wopping the face buttons for about 15 mins so far it’s nice
Thank you!
I ordered mine on the 11th of July and it should be arriving by the 24th of July. Not too shabby from China to Canadia. I paid $94 USD for it.
The excite is exponential at this point.
(My Scuf Instinct Pro was awesome but one of the back buttons has snapped off and the right stick has the dreaded stick drift - no more POTS for this gamer)
Anyhoo, thank you AGAIN for giving us your honest info...
I ordered a Firefly edition, coming this November. Costed me $150 though
@@ry0usama511 Do you mean the Honkai: Star Rail Firefly Limited Edition? I really love the colour way on that one. I think I would do the Assassin's Creed colour way myself.
Heyyy glad to hear it, and you are very welcome. I hear Canada is beautiful, and your people aren’t jerks, and you have health care.
Kevin, thanks again for all your research and reviews. I decided a couple of weeks ago to pull the trigger on the Apex 4. After setting up the software and updating to the latest firmware, I decided to test both the polling and circularity. While I was blown away by the polling, for some odd reason most controllers that I have bought based on your feedback, I never get a zero circularity test like you do. They are mostly in the 5% to 10% range. Is that a normal range or should I send it back for on that will test at 0%?
Thanks AK! Love these videos. You've saved me tons of time when selecting pro controllers. I run the Victrix Pro on my PS5, Elite Series 2 on XBox and looking for a 3rd to use with my pc which I use the other 2 with but want to add one more. Trying not to tire those other ones out too quickly.
I have a quick question though. Is the only way to achieve the sniper stick heighth on the Vader or Apex by means of Kontrol Freak cap or can I swap the sticks out? Right now I'm diggin a short domed left stick and tall concave right stick.
Thanks dude!
Bought my Apex 4 and just now the Assassin's Creed edition Vader 4 Pro, AliExpressed it dude, although I am in Australia usually a week and a half shipping. Closer to China I guess..Love the Apex 4, think the on the fly tension change for the joysticks and trigger locks on the Vader 4 Pro will be awesome.
My friend's Vader 4 Pro arrived within 6 days to the UK, but he ordered it from gadgethyper.
Vader 3 pro I really enjoyed but for some reason my in game camera would jolt around a couple times per game session as if it was short circuiting or something. Returned for an Apex 4 and have not looked back man this thing is an absolute monster across the board.
That’s weird about the jolt , glad the new controller is good.
Lmao your video pushed me to get this roller when i already have a instinct pro but i have to send it in because my trigger mainly will randimly go off.
It’s my favorite too but the sticks are great but have a plastic weak point on the tumb stick to fix it I super glued and bought extra controller lol
I must not have that weak point. I beat this controller to hell in gameplay
Sounds like it's defective.
Love my Apex 4. The Vader 4 pro is on the way as well. Best of both worlds.
Exactly 👍🏼
I have been using this controller for 3 days and already doing better on warzone compared to the g7se, mostly going from 2 buttons to 4 buttons have made me a better player but dude my favorite thing in the controller is the trigger lock feature. I have mine set to 20 the lowest and at first I was pressing to hard during gun fights but now on day three I’m so used to it.
You can go down to 1 but whatever I use 25
I need an Xbox/PC controller that has the hall effect for joysticks and the share button. Which one would you recommend? >>PS: the controller needs to be wireless, have 4 paddle controls with the remapping ability, and a share button like Xbox Controllers.
You can either go with the gamesir g7 or One of the kaleids
@@victororozcojulio121 thanks for the reply. forgot to mention that the controller needs to be wireless. the controller also needs to have 4 paddles in the back that can be remapped.
How you get the vixtric software to work I got vixtric bfg for Xbox and the app won’t even recognize controller on Xbox
The Vader 4 is $80 compared to the $160 of the Apex 4 “I got it for $130 on Prime Day”. Vader 4 pro also has the 2 extra buttons on the front of the controller and a better system to adjust the stick tension.
Why is the Apex 4 so much more expensive? Is it because the interactive screen? It’s by far the most premium feeling controller I’ve ever had though. Was debating selling this and getting Vader 4 pro for cheaper once it’s on Amazon.
Hi bro,✌️I have a question, do you know a way to change profiles faster? like apex 3. to avoid going to the menu all the time and changing profiles??🤔🤙
the haptic feedback and screen are a gimmick on the Apex 4. And it not having the same trigger locks as the Vader 3 and 4 is a deal breaker for me. I'm surprised by your conclusion ngl
Gimmick to you, not me. You’re surprised with my decision because it doesn’t match with your opinion.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial You said yourself in THIS video that you don't even like the screen and it should be ditched, but when I call it a gimmick you get defensive? Odd.
@@drconflict629You did say the haptic feedback was also a gimmick, maybe he got ticked off about that?
You got me considering the Vader 3 again as a back up. Where did you get the rubber grips? That sandpaper plastic is always a downside for me, ha ha.
Does the Xbox Series not give an error saying "A connected accessory is not authorized" with the Wingman XB you have in your description? Is there a better adapter that works?
Vader 4 Pro when?
Tuesday.
Tuesday.
any plans to do a vader 4 pro review?
Coming very soon
the ONLY thing this controller is missing in my opinion are the extra shoulder buttons! I loved the apex 2 just has too much input lag, combine both of these and controllers and it’s the best of everything
That would be a very welcome feature. Good recommendation.
This video is actually incredibly accurate…
Guys it’s true… this controller literally has everything on top of amazing hall effect thumb sticks.
I was about to lose hope on these Chinese controllers to be quite frank because they all lacked one thing or the other or were a complete lie, but this controller really has proven them all wrong…
Not only has it done that but it’s remained very consistent as well as I have had it literally since day one and I’ve had no problems
Chinese controllers? Lol. 😂
Which controllers are not made in China nowadays?
So this is deemed to be the best PC controller? Or is that video coming soon?
I was thinking of buying this controller. I play Tekken 8 a lot and seeing that it has membrane rubber used in the dpad might not be good for fighting games. Any recommendation for fighting games with mechanical switch and hall effect thumb stick?
I’m probably not the best to ask.
1. I don’t play many fighting games
2. I don’t use the dpad much
3. Tekken is fuggin’ awesome!
Just had to put that in there lol
I'm not a great Tekken player, I mainly use my Vader 3 Pro for Street Fighter 6 but... the Flydigi mechanical d-pad is EXCELLENT for fighting games. I fully recommend the Vader and Apex controller d-pads for fighting games. Also the Flydigi d-pad is mechanical. It is by far the most accurate d-pad I've ever used for Street Fighter 6, better than the 8bitdo d-pads.
When can we expect the Vapor 4 Pro review?
I like racing Sims but I don't have the money for a good steering/pedal system. Does anyone know of a controller with stiff triggers? I'd like more resistance than normal so I can turn TCS off completely 😅
Do you have a favorite controller purely based on thumb stick feel, and do you prefer the feel of analog potentiometers or Hall effect? I like the feeling of a tension/centering spring & I’m not sure if hall effect feels the same…. That would definitely be the deciding factor of if I switch to Hall effect or stay with an analog potentiometer
I bought this controller and couldn’t get used to the joysticks. I only play FPS games and it never felt right
God damn brother (sorry to take the lords name in vein) I could (and should) make a video on this but:
-edge
-vader/apex4
-mmmm can’t think of a last one lol
@@GamerHeavenOfficial surprised you didn’t mention the G7 or G7 SE, I thought those might’ve been your favorite
@@GamerHeavenOfficial now that I’m hearing about more of the PS5 controller features… they’re starting to sound less gimmicky…. Guess I didn’t wanna hear about it cause I’m on Xbox 😅
@@kennyoffhenny Once you go DualSense you never go back. Sony just makes better controllers, period.
Thank you for this video.
i have my apex 4 for almost 7 months now, it is indeed a great controller, but just a tip for those who wanna go for it, the RGB is absolutely garbage, which for me is a big point since in to customization, and no rewasd support so far, so there is that
Big problem with screens 34 fps GIF and profile macro keboard saves and deleting profiles
Funny enough, this is the video I’ve been looking for the past few days. Whether I choose the Apex 4 or one of the Vader 3/4 pro controllers. What adapters/ converters do you guys recommend for connecting to my Xbox X. Please help!
Not having the circularity algorithm option the Vader 4 pro has makes this controller obsolete
Never even heard of that
It’s a gimmicky feature I’ll touch on in my review
Tj, most people haven’t because it’s a marketing nothing burger
@@GamerHeavenOfficial watching your most recent video, it is safe to say I was and still am right, even you prefer the vader 4 pro lol, Apex 4 is just not more than double the price for less controller
Nothing beats the vader 3 pro, is worth every penny
You’re not wrong , it’s a beast
does the adjustable stick tension fix the loose recentering spring that people claim hall effect sticks have? also I wanted to ask what do you think is the best style of back buttons/paddles and the best layout for them?
New mechanism solves this problem completely. Unless you choose to play with the lowest tension, from my experience centering will be perfect. But even with tension set to lowest it is very good.
I think I prefer the back buttons on the apex 4 over all elite controllers personally. It feels much more natural than resting my fingers on the protrusions that are multiple back paddles. The buttons on the apex 4 are set in a way that your middle finger will naturally rest perfectly in the center of the two pairs of buttons. 2 buttons on the left half and 2 more on the right half. You'll naturally find yourself resting in the center of each pair making it still feel like a normal controller making it more ergonomic.
Yes from what I can see (I did a tear down on the Vader 4 modules which are similar if not the same) it eliminates that issue
Right on Dan. Personally I like the elites rear paddle approach although usually buttons trump paddles. 🙂
I want this controller for my series X but having to use the wingman xb3 knowing that Xbox will block it (eventually) doesn't seem worth it. building a PC down the road, at that point then I'll get it for that
how do I use this on xbox?
Make sure its in X Input mode
Sold! Even tho I’m sleazy I’ll use the Amazon link.
i am worried about the QC of apex4
Why? I’m just curious if there’s something I don’t know about 🙂
@@GamerHeavenOfficial some RUclipsr said QC of flydigit controller is not accpetable>>>>>>
I much prefer the vader 3 over the apex 4..the apex 4 feels so heavy. The vader 3 sits perfectly inbetween being to light and too heavy..i find the spring like feel and sound on the thumbsticks annoying on the apex 4 and lastly the true trigger stops on vader 4 are amazing. Literally the same as a mouse click
The apex 4 is noticeably heavier 🙂. Thank you for sharing your experience/thoughts
Brothe review Machenike G6 Pro Starflash ,❗
Magnificent!!
I updated controller firmware and now it constantly drops input in game. It's literally unusable now...
How do you connect to your Xbox X with this controller...what converter adapter do you have to use because I'm really interested...or is the GameSir G7 SE good enough....had really bad luck with my Elite series 2 controller...really want a good wireless controller....
Was about to ask the exact same thing. He has an adapter in the description but it says it works for Xbox 360 and original Xbox. Doesn't mention Xbox One or Series.
@ECGgroup I saw that too....those adjustable hall effects tho 👀
I use the mayflower magic X adaptor, on the apex 3 and 4 controllers, with the xbox series s & x..once the controller is connected to the adaptor thru the wireless dongle or wired, I turn the controller to the Nintendo switch mode, it's read and I turn the controller back to pc mode and it's ready to go.
@@mocorleone1 hell yea finally 🙌
Hey buddy. I use the brook accessories xb2 linked in the description but I’m making a big comparison video of all the makes and models real real soon with pairing tutorials
Imo if I could have the envision pro with a 1ms oc and Hall effect sticks it would be the best controller. It’s also the most comfortable cuz I got small hands. I play comp cod and most pro controllers paddles or buttons break when I use them and it’s so annoying but the envision pro has the best paddles I ever used. Most paddles have a deley to but envision feels more responsive despite being 500hz. If only I could get 1000hz oc and he sticks on my envision :((
The envision has been getting tons of play (and love from me recently), I’m making a long term review soon.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I prefer it over my dual sense but my dual sense is 1000hz and he sticks so on comp I use that. But the envison feels so nice I can’t wait to see the review you put out
Should i buy a dual sense and extremerate it , or buy the new hex phantom controller ? I’m in between these 2 , any recommendations?
My Apex 4 left analog broke on the 2nd day of use
You might be eligible for a free replacement, since Flydigi did admit that they had a faulty machine in their factory, which means that Apex 4 controllers produced between a certain time frame will develop these issues.
I'm currently on an Android Tablet, my Alienware laptops out for the count, little splash of water, she down. so need a comprehensive video on using the Flydigi Game Center app, seems has great potential on the mapping side but very skint on how tos out there. Any advise links etc. all welcome. I'm on PUBG Mobile when I hop in a vehicle how to map the differences.
I just don't know if I can get behind those back buttons. Tempted to snag it on amzn when it goes on sale and just return it if I don't like them. Also, wish it came in a dark version too. I just don't like white-ish things, but that's not a deal breaker.
The assassins creed version will be in black and it’s coming to Amazon very soon.
I'ma just add that I have the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra.. I heard A LOT of complaints so added on a $60 Bester Buyer warranty.. Best controller I've ever used. No disconnects wired or wireless, trigger stops actually work in every game unlike other controllers. I drop 30 extra kills than before with other controllers. Thumbsticks soooo accurate. Best purchase ever.
Absolutely, I’ve been using the stealth ultra the last 6 months and it has become my overall favorite controllers I’ve ever used. The stealth ultra is on a whole nother level definitely worth the price. Best Pro controller on the market
@@garrettstrutz7421 do the sticks have much wiggle when you barely press it?
@@n64slayerno not at all. I hate when a controller has wiggle
I think what really ruins this controller for me is where the back buttons are and connectivity options. If they could just have those fixed I'd buy it.
Idk man, I much prefer the buttons on the apex 4 over paddles on a kk3 or Xbox elite. They're lowkey and to me they're placed in the perfect spot. My middle fingers naturally rest perfectly in the center of the 2 buttons on each side.
Yes
how can I use it on ps5 it looks good
Does anyone know some good converters and adapters
Would also like Gamer Heaven to do a video going over all the best adapters for console/PC.
brookman wingman xb3
this controller is so good when people ask in my gaming groups what controller they should get and I say apex 4 and I get comments saying I'm buying cheap Chinese stuff and too poor for a elite controller......yeah stick with your overpriced drift coming soon controller. To the few guys the heart or like my comment your the real ones.
Waiting for new Gamesir G7 HE review
That thing is mediocre as hell tbh. I returned mine.
No wireless , no tiggers block 😢
I’ve owned one for a while. I just got the Kaleid for Xbox and it’s way better. Still wish it had trigger stops, but it has “hair triggers” that you can activate in the console app. I like it. Also the D-Pad is excellent in my opinion. Not hard to press but not too soft like membrane, so it’s a nice clicky-ish one and my thumb glides across the presses.
I play R6S (Rainbow Six Siege) right now, because that’s the ONLY thing my friends play. 😒 and it has definitely upped my game and aim. I can mark things quicker and more efficiently with the D-Pad and that’s a big plus for me. The ABXY buttons are a great mouse click that are easier to actuate than the Turtle Beach Stealth. I returned my Turtle Beach Stealth after 6 months (bought a 2 year warranty with Best Buy so I could do just that) and the Turtle Beach felt SO clunky and the D-Pad got worse with use and the ABXY buttons were getting more difficult to actuate, adding to the “clunkyness” feel of it.
Anyway, I digress. If you’re wanting an update on the GameSir controllers because you haven’t purchased one yet, I’d say go ahead and buy a Kaleid (if on Xbox) and be done with it! It’s only around $70 with shipping on Amazon. Great investment, even if you don’t end up liking it, it’s a great back-up for when you need a 2nd controller for friends, or when you’re waiting for another controller to come in.
I use the apex 4 as well.
Its battery oddly lasts way longer than vader 3 pro, for me atleast.
The most features you could probably ask for in a controller.
However some things that piss me off.
DS mode does not work seem to work with steam input.
This is in general with most controllers with extra buttons, you cant map them separately in steam.
Steam in my opinion is just the most feature rich and comprehensive way to configure your controller, with big picture overlay and all the features.
If anyone knows a better controller config software that has something similar to big picture overlay. I would very much like to know.
The battery is a 800 mah on Vader 3 pro, 1500 on apex probably to account for the screen and rgb but if you turn that off (can’t fully disable screen as of now) it makes the battery life up to 72 hours in some cases I’ve read. I’m probably clocking about 40-50, I don’t charge it much that’s for sure 👍🏼
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Quite disappointing that they pack such a low capacity battery into the vader 3 pro.
I wonder how easy it is to change it.
Are the voltages same as a ps5 battery for instance, if they are then it would be really easy.
I had a few instances where vader 3 would just turn off randomly when playing elden ring.
This used to be a common problem with cheaper controllers or maybe its an indication of a faulty battery.
What’s a good adapter for the ps5 when playing ps4 games? Anyone?
Does your apex 4 take a screenshot everytime you turn it on for pc?
mine does you have to desable windows game bar, etc.
i have the 3, yeah is amazing, BUT this plastic in the front, is a no go to me.
Any news of when the vader 4 will be coming out? Love my vader 3, but I use it heavily and I can tell its about to go.
So, I actually have a Vader 4 pro and I really like it. You can order from gadget hyper and it came to Texas decently fast.
Tuesday
@@GamerHeavenOfficial As in tomorrow?! NO WAY. LFG BABY!
Bro Vader 4 pro please 🥺
Quick question, when using it on Xbox does it disconnect every time you turn it off from its adapter
If only if it has paddles like the edge or gulikit kk3max.
I have an Apex 4, and I love it. But my vibration in game is weak for some reason. I've confirmed that the vibration is set to max and it works when I test it in the app. It also works in game, but it's never nearly as strong as it is in the app. Playing racing games is trickier because it's hard to feel when the tires are breaking loose. It's too subtle. Any suggestions?
For some context. My plain Jane xbox series x controller is stronger in these games and doesn't give me the same issue. It's the only thing I wish I could change.
When Apex 4 vs Vader 4 pro video will come out ?
Probably after the Vader 4 pro review
On PC Dongle DInput my controller doesn’t really work I don’t see the sticks show up on the input test but there’s a gage that shows the axis working and I can see the button inputs register but when I play FN or COD it just won’t recognize the controller unless I switch it to xinput, is it supposed to be like that?
I've had two of these and the left thumb stick cracked both times with normal use usage in less than a weeks worth of time. I really tried to like it but the quality control is bad. Thankfully was able to get refunds both times through aliexpress. Personally I can't recommend this controller.
According to Flydigi, there was a bad production batch at the beginning of the year, because one of their machines malfunctioned, and all the controllers of that batch have sticks that break. If you have one of those, they are currently offering to send replacement parts, that don't have that weakness. Also, the machine was since fixed.
@@saeno7258how do I get a replacement because my stick has a grindy feeling
You better hope the perfect controller doesn't come around. It'd be curtains for you, captain. Lacy, gently wafting curtains.
Come on already with the Vader 4 Pro Review ;)
If I only reviewed controllers that may be true. I got a lot of my subs from gaming news, headset reviews, my Alienware tutorials, etc.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Also the fact that most of what people like about controllers is entirely subjective, so there will never be anything that is "perfect". We got decades and decades of more controllers to come. How buttons feel, how much they stick out of the shell, the shape of the bumpers or triggers, whether it even has bumpers or shoulder buttons, where the sticks are placed, how much resistance, the material used to make the controller; my point is a LOT of it comes down to subjective preferences. There's no way one single "perfect" controller is coming around any time soon.
What about the Modded Zone with the MZ Titan chip as best controller?
You’re funny