The reason my Ferrari 308 was the cheapest in the UK
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2020
- I bought the InfluEnzo unseen at online auction, it was a gamble that had appeared to have paid off. Was making some progress in getting my Ferrari 308 back to health when a disaster happened.
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Most worrying noises go away when you turn the radio up.
I think your whistling noise could be the carb venturies when they are fully open
308 side view is stunning
Yes. The classic going fast standing still look. 😍
That's what I thought too. It looks fantastic!
I was at a car show last summer with all sorts of Aventador's and 488's and all the owners were gathered round a 308. They are still stunning. Slow now of course but absolutely stunning.
purists look away... the looks are indeed sublime, as was 246..I would love an affordable, easy build GRP replica / conversion of a crossover between 308 GTS and 228 GTO - a more subtle and smaller 288 with everyday worry free mechanicals and c 300bhp/ton --or simply a 308GTS replica (with wider footwell!) - needs to be in expensive / accessible :) - I was lucky enough to see a stunning one off replica at Stoneleigh a few yrs back with RV8 ..absolutely amazing..unfortunately the driving position remained compromised - using wheel arch extensions as in 288 would help with avoiding footwell wheelwell ingress
An affordable 308GTS clone with a TVR engine for hassle free motoring....mmm
"It tried to burn my face off." Just your average day of classic Ferarri ownership then.
Pretty much!
I love these videos. "Ooooops, I'll have to fix that." This is exactly my DIY car repair experience.
I remember the first time I removed a rear shock and ran in the house to show the wife. I was jubilant in my victory but she was like, "get that dirty thing out of my house!".
😂😂😂😂
It waited till you switched off then static boiled.... clinging on whilst the water circulates, but can’t contain the pressure once it stops 🥵
He’s exactly that!
Hi, I have a 1976 308 GTB and have had a similar noises at certain revs. Drove me mad but on mine it was a hairline crack in the exhaust heat shield on the rear bank of cylinders. Then I got another crack in the heat shield under the boot floor (deeper noise) and finally a high pitched tingling/whistling noise (like yours) that was the front heat shield protecting the alternator. Spent ages sorting crack/splits etc in heat shields and finally they've given up and gone away. We isolated each one by taking each heatshield off and seeing if it stopped the noise. Reving it in a workshop just didn't replicate it. Stick with it as 308s are the most underated Ferraris and when you've got it sorted you'll love it. I've had mine for 21 years now and have experienced just about everything that a car can throw at its owner. They are very fickle but very, very strong.
Same whistle sound on my 308 that I kept for 3 years without problems. Mine was also a single exhaust. Leave it like this mate. It's pre-bling Ferrari. For me, the best part of this engine was to open the right window and hear the carbs sucking air through the right fender intake ! A very special sound that I loved and only on that model.
Thanks buddy and good to hear you had the same noise!!
7:30
"It has been a successful morning in the Influenzo.
It hasn't blown up!"
Golden :D
😂
I’ve heard that same sound on other 308s. I even asked about it at the time and never got a satisfactory answer. I just thought it was something unique to carbed 308s.
Fantastic progress on the 308, well done Jack. Running issues that £££ with 'specialists' hadn't resolved for years, you've got to the bottom off in weeks :-) Getting going, its a great journey
Thanks Sean! Enjoy your weekend!
Its hard to tell on the video but to me it really sounds like air pressure of some sort... Possibly a vacuum or maybe even a slight exhaust manifold blow....
sounds like a vacuum leak to me, that would only happen under load not on gradual acceleration, or perhaps a vacuum regulator after distributor makes maximum advance so that too much vacuum doesn't damage the diaphragm
Agreed. Sounds exactly like when the vacuum advance diaphragm on my distributor got a leak. That would also explain while it's only on full throttle
p_r_i_m_e does the 308 have a full throttle position sensor and system? Then I’d trouble shoot that. Vac advance would be possible as stated...etc... my suggestion always is you have to get the car in spec and all maintenance caught up to really sort out a car. I.e. of it needs a top end refresh..you’d probably fix most issues when you change out hoses, vac lines, clean or replace fuel lines, adjust timing, etc...otherwise you’re chasing your tail. Coolant flush via overheating is one way of doing regular maintenance...;)
Not to sure about your thoughts on air leak on full chat. You’ll get lower manifold pressure on closed throttle high rpm over run conditions.
Best bet is to get it to your nearest rolling road once lock down is lifted.
But great content. And an interesting noise. Cover the basics first. Think simple.
My first thought was air leak, although always hard to diagnose over video!
Agreed also - the noise only seems to be under load, so I don't think it's just related to engine speed like an alternator bearing would be. Also, those pipes perish, and the car is from 1981 by the reg. plate
I had a similar squeak in my Porsche 993 in similar conditions to yours which puzzled me and quite a few professionals. It went away after I removed and reseated the intake manifold, so believe it was a loose hose clamp at the intake side. Worth re-seating everything on the intake side before replacing anymore parts. All the best with it.
Thanks and good advice. Will do when I rebuild the carbs this a winter!
Great progress and success...so far it looks to be a good buy... fingers crossed!!!
*10:45* *Turbo Whistle*
Nice one getting the Enzo going chief 👍
Thanks chap!
Mmmmm, as someone who has been playing with cars all his life - including professionally for a number of years - I have a suggestion: relax. When the car boils over or a coolant hose pops or the alternator bearing seizes and the car throws a belt, don't flip out. If you don't learn to take things in stride, you're going to have to become an adrenaline junkie to enjoy the 308 (alternatively you could just become a regular junkie and hook yourself on valium...) :-p
Remain calm. At least until you hear a loud bang at 6000rpm followed by clanging and large volumes of gray smoke and bits of piston and rod billowing behind the car. Then flip. That would be justified.
BTW, the Influenzo was not trying to burn your face-off. It was a joke. It wanted to see you bang your head on the underside of the bonnet. It boiled over because the horns aren't in the engine compartment on the 308, so it likely would have not scared you if it had only beeped the horn.
Thanks for the advice.. I am a worrier by nature though!!
I'm loving the InfluEnzo Jack, keep the videos coming buddy 👍
Thank Ryan, keep safe buddy!
Great content. Keep on being positive!!! You will get there
I was thinking bearings as well maybe a tensioner or alternator?
Run it without the alternator belt - could be the alternator bearing.
Good call
No, doubt it, alternator bearings don't sound like that, and it still wouldn't make much sense why it's only at full throttle. You can usually hear it at very low RPMs if it's going out.
Great job!! The carb sync came out great. I absolutely love that car.
Keep up the videos. I always click on your 308 videos as soon as I see them.
Thank Jim, much appreciate the kind words!
Liking your collection of Tamiya 80's RC cars :0)
alternator.
noise changes with temp and load depending on demand and state of battery charge.
Interesting.. I will check it out
Alternator on my Porsche whistles!
@@Number27 As someone who does not work on cars but computers, I'd also say that sounds very much like electronics coil whine. Hence an alternator sounds like a plausible explanation. The electromagnetic sound induction is often amplified by resonances, so it is typical that it becomes audible only under some specific conditions.
The despair you feel is when your wallet goes in to panic mode.
Great video again chief! No idea what sound will be but enjoying your journey with the car that you love. Great stuff, have a great day👍
Thanks Kevin! Have a great weekend!
The Flugeot
That whistle is well known to classic car owners - it's called paranoia. :)
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Yes, along with knocks, dings, rattles and whooshes and bangs, well said, we know the score! : /
Way better than anything Hoovies and more twists and turns than a South American Soap Opera. Look forward to more episodes!
Congrats on your successes ! Glad you didn't steam your face off ! You shift from the left side quite well !!! Best wishes from the states !!!!
Thanks Roger... have driven in Italy a lot so left hand drive not an issue for me!!
Could it be water pump bearings as you’ve just noticed it after it boiled over?
Name for the lovely GTI. “Pug Mug”
Beautiful in blue. Will be brilliant to drive 👍
Not bad, but I'd go with Lester Peugeot or Sacré Bleu. Great little cars.
Glad it's running well....I had a similar noise on my 1981 Trans Am with a Chevy 350 many years ago. I think it was something to do with a vacuum line on it that wasn't blocked off properly. Used to only do it in the same fashion yours does.
Thanks for the advice, I’ll check it out!
Car looking superb, sounding great too!
She’s throwing all sorts at you to keep us hooked on your videos - keep them coming.
I was relieved you were wearing at least wearing something (your pj bottoms) on your lower half as you re-appeared from behind the car! 😂
The radiator does have a valve on top corner that’s good practice to bleed after a spirited run. I was always amazed at how much air would come out sometimes.
Yes I’ve used it already! Thanks!
Tyrrell's Classic Workshop maybe (has a YT channel also)
That noise is coming from the optional factory turbo hidden in the glovebox.
Does sound a lot like a turbo!!
Brilliant video and one lucky escape. The joys of motoring ‘as my father use to tell me’. The sound could be belts to tight, the alternator can also make a whistling noise, both when new and when there getting tired. It could also be a vacuum hose leak, maybe a split hose, for the most part that wouldn’t make a noticeable difference to performance. Good luck and look forward to the next video
Thank you Ross! Enjoy the weekend buddy!
No probs, I too have classic cars and motorcycles, my daily is a 1978 Mk1 Cavalier that was a bad model L, but now has the Carlton GSI 3.0 24v straight 6, Manta 400 getrag gearbox and back axle. Using a classic every day is far far better than a modern car and the smiles per miles......you can’t put a price on that
My dad always said don’t worry too much about a noise or a rattle until it stops! It’s a beautiful car. My 928 S4 is also coming along nicely. Hi from South Africa!
Thanks Deon and good advice!
Those weber sneezes can be pretty dramatic. I had a backfire that imploded my muffler a few weeks ago.
They sure can!!
Watch Harrys Garage with this Ferrari. The same sound from intake colector. I think its ok ;)
Have seen it before! Did not remember hearing that noise though...?
I had mine for three years and it made the same noise.
I had no issues relating to the noise.
Jack. Your confidence, optimism and knowledge is great. Keep up the good work. 👍
Cheers Mike!
Hello sir. Love your videos. My father has a 1980 308 GTSi. It's common with the factory exhaust to whistle at higher RPM's or at wide open throttle. Keep up the good work.
Thank you buddy, have a great weekend!!
@@Number27 Thank you do the same.
I am in love with your 205 already
Name suggestion? I might call it Murray in your honour!
@@Number27 The blue pill? That would make the 308 the red pill... and you can chose every day which one you take ;)
I had a 205 GTi 1.9. It always started 1st time. About 20% of the time.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dirty contact on starter, common issue. The most unreliable part on the 205gti is the German part. Bosch fuel injection system, air flow meter. Many of us owners gave binned that and gone for wasted spark set up.
If your having cold start issues, it will be the SAD on the back of the distributor SAD = supplementry air device, usually the rubber tube perishes and fucks it up, I used to set the throttle up by hand after working on them for years as a kid. 650rpm with air screw closed then open up to get 950rpm. It will run like a dream and no stalling out.
Another great video. Looking forward to seeing how you get on with the 205GTi. Best fun car I’ve ever owned was a 105 1.5 diesel! You could easily get going sideways at 30mph. Loved it!
Awesome.. the cheapest cars are often the most fun!
If your looking at the exhaust, I'd also look at getting the headers ceramic coated too. Your whistle could also be the start of a blow in the exhaust/header.
How about Benson ? That was the official name of the Peugeot tiger. Great content thanks.
Interesting! Never knew that. It’s a lion, by the way
Thanks David!!!
Any Ferrari issues reach out to ratarossa
He knows, they are already hooked up.
I was thinking about that bearing the Ratarosa changed on his 308
I reach out to Rata quite a lot with very limited replies.. #js
I really hope you success. Love the car and love the videos
Cheers Neil !
That first 4 minutes.....the side profile of a 308 is just perfection.....absolute perfection...!!!! 😍😍😍
Does look really great there!!
High velocity air going thru the carb venturies
I think its hilarious you are still in your Jim jams lol
FixDriveRideFly hahah yeah. And we saw some flesh at the end of the video 😂😂😂
Style! ..... is not my strong point!
Well, he is now Magnum PJ! :)
Check the fins on the alternator, ive had one in the past that whistles due to a fin or 2 being slightly out of line, once you spin it to a certain speed they catch the air, other then that a bearing maybe in the water pump.
I always new i wasn't sufficiently mechanically minded, bikes ok, cars not so much....but watching this is fascinating. Kudos for sharing so much with us...good luck with everything.
Thanks buddy!!
205 should be Pepe le Pew, call it Pepe on good days, and Pew on the others.
@Wake Forest Awards Pepe le Pew did not survive the Me Too movement. He bunks with Cosby now.
Bummer about poor Pepe.
Aachoo-geot 205 GTI
Crossing my fingers for you 😁 Loving your updates 👍🏻
Thank you!!
Love the videos. Had 3 205 so. First one 1.6 gti. 2nd one 1.9 gti. 3rd one 1.9 gti with a Dimma kit. Amazing looking for the time. Must check the belts on them! 120 mph on M62 cam belt went! !! AA guy said he was picking up my engine for the last few miles. Keep up the good work. Never had a Farrarri but great fun with TVR. Living in Tenerife now with daughter and Mrs so it is time for a mid life crisis. Keep up the great vids x Steve
Thanks a lot Steve and enjoy Tenerife!!
alternator bearings.....
Personally I'd take the rad to a specialist to get tested and the starter and alty to a specialist to get checked over and then if all the pipes are good I'd be happy
Thanks for the update, thats some project you have there ! Only happens at higher revs...could well be the alternator on its way out ?
New car...what about PUGWASH ? 😂
Thanks Robert! Enjoy the weekend!!
Loving the suggestions from posters..... So far the noise is coming from every moving part in your vehicle!
I know!! Wheel bearings not mentioned yet though... 🙃
But all useful suggestions to check out!
@@Number27 I think its the wheel bearings! :D
I had a 75 308 GT4 for over 20 years. Did all the maintenance myself. Very reliable car, as good as any other 15-35 year old. after 18 years, the fuel consumption got worse. Worn float needles. I chucked them up in my drill press and dressed them with a stone, worked great.
Set the float levels a bit higher than specified (1/4"?)- eliminated the fluffy throttle in curves (this had disappeared when the needles started leaking).
Most important: I bought one of those carb ballancers to set the butterflies, but found a 5/16" ID length of vinyl tubing stuck in the ear was more accurate. Been trying to sell the ballancer ever since.
Thanks Richard, I will try with the tube too!
Calm face? You looked as though you were in shock - understandably so.
🤣🤣🤣 I really was. I could not believe it!!
The “please go” should be a good name for your new car 😉
cheftush errrr 🧐
😂
Absolutely loving these videos, your face is a picture full of fun and joy, bless you, thanks for the entertainment, so engaging 👏🏁😀
Stumbled across your channel the way one does on Y-Tube, and promptly subscribed. It is refreshing to see an enthusiast that can both work on their car, and knows and appreciates the history behind the marque. Must be my age, but I get exhausted by all the channels that are just young guys doing stupid things with "Lambos" :-)
Thanks Timothy, very nice to hear you’re enjoying this!! Have a great weekend!
My advice, which stems from many years of experience with temperamental souls, is as follows....
As she will never behave if you continue to call her that name that I shall not mention. She deserves a name more fitting. After all none of this is her fault. You are her caretaker and technician, not her protagonist. Oh and this time round, be sure to christen her with a females name. Once you have that sorted, don't forget to greet her with politely hello ___ and goodbye _____.
"Pugani 205" for the 205?
Good one!
How are your engine mounts? Under high load the engine could twist causing some fit issues around your belts. Trying to fit a k&n filter on my car and the filter was pushing on the timing belt cover causing it to touch the belt and whine. Just a thought.
Back in the early 90s when I was a Ferrari club member I used to receive the newsletter and this was really preinternet time 1990 1991. Many 308 owners were happy with Borla exhaust.
You’re doing this on purpose right? I mean, the more it brakes down, the higher your viewing rates 😜🤣
I wish I was!! The boiling over does provide some entertained force you grits at least!
@@Number27 next time just put a pot with boiling pasta below the engine to make up the smoke ;)
why didnt you explain what you were doin when "balancing" the carbs...afterall aint that the point of this channel?
its simple he was making sure that they all weigh the same !!
There’s a fine line between exposing and boring.. not sure everyone would be interested..
Sounds airflow ish - exhaust? Does sound more like induction related though, wonder if you have one carb over travelling slightly on WOT?
havent seen the next videos yet, but was this rattling noise related with the exhaust maybe ?
Hi Jack - loving your Influenza videos - very informative and very entertaining too. I have a possible explanation for your squeaking noise as a similar thing happened on my Porsche 997.1 C4S. It sounded like a slipping belt and only happened under load at high revs. I changed belts & idler pulleys, the water pump and even the pulley on the alternator - none of which cured the problem. The guys that do my servicing eventually tracked it down to a cracked exhaust bracket that was resonating/rubbing together at high load/high revs. £20 spent on some tack welds cured it and it’s never done it since! Maybe a simple one to check if only to rule it out? All the best. Mike
The noise might be reason why they also changed his belts a year ago
Thanks for the advice chap!!
I chased a similar noise - not on a Ferrari- for the longest time. It was only audible above a certain rpm. In the end I chased it down to a bearing in the alternator. I dont no whether its possible to run your Ferrari briefly without the alternator running, if you could it would either eliminate or pinpoint the noise if it is coming from the alternator.
The 308 is one of the prettiest cars ever made. Good luck with yours.
Not sure if you got an answer on the whistle but my brother had a 1977 (fibreglass bodied) carbed 308 and it made exactly the same sound. I am pretty sure it was induction whistle. I love the sound of these engines. I have been listening with my stereo turned up! The injected cars didn't make the same sound.
Great videos. Really enjoyable.
Thank you buddy! Whistle was a broken silencer.. now sorted!
Watching and enjoying your videos and what a great car the 308 is ! Not keen on the name you chose for it though deserves better !
Could be as simple as a loose/stretched drive belt or worn bearing in either idler pulley/alternator/water pump...along those lines
Great videos and nothing wrong with driving in PJs ...
Had a similar issue with a alternator noise ... ha ve you tried the old screwdriver on the alternator whilst the engine is running?
Thanks!! You’re clearly also Amman who values comfort!!
I've driven a 308 and owned a 328 and they both did that whistling sound which according to my mechanic (a Ferrari specialist) is actually normal.
Feature, not fault 😂
Phew. That was a close shave..
That engine sounds sweet.
I had a couple of 205 GTI 1.9s back in the day, one after the next. Bat out of hell. Followed by a 5GT Turbo, so a total late 80s/ early 90s dream fest for a young lad. Decades later I need a 911 to give me similar thrills down a bend road.
How did the 5 Turbo compare to the 205?
Missed this. The 5GT Turbo felt more planted and faster because of that puffer. The 205 GTI 1.9was light as a feather in every way, and soddin’ fast cross country. Basically, take yer pick. Happy days. Ooh, and the 1.9 was a bit over throttled, so a mere touch on the accelerator caused the Pug to storm forward like a stabbed rat.
I'm in the alternator bearings group as well Jack, shouldn't be too hard a fix (ignoring access issues!). The car sounds great and good luck with it. The GTI has TRP in the number plate and I'm tempted to say tripe but can't, it's a superb car and I'm looking forward to the videos on it!
Thanks Matthew!! Can’t wait to get hold of the Pug
It sounds more like an air leak to me. How do the brakes feel? Does this car have a servo? I’d rig your phone or camera up in different areas of the engine bay to video and diagnose the rough area it’s coming from after watching the playback and inspect anything in that area.
Yes old boy racer trick regarding the fins on the alternator, bend a few out a bit, and a presto you get a turbo effect whistle. When you spin it up too a certain rpm.
Ha!! 😂
God damn Jack... living this rollercoaster for us all to see is truly entertaining if not a bit mental 🤪 love it. What does this engine do for crank case ventilation ? I’ve had this noise before on cars when the PCV has a split diagram etc. Good luck mate
Good call... I’ll check that!
God you really are a lucky man who just keeps dodging the bullet every time
What is lucky about your car breaking down almost every day?
Indeed been mostly lucky so far... thanks for watching Garry!
@@patrickahearne8770 not lucky it keeps breaking no one wants that for him lucky he has avoided expensive problems & it's worked out fine for him
i quote wikipidia"The engine speed is limited only by the amount of fuel/air mixture that is available in the manifold. ... If the engine is operating under heavy load at wide throttle openings (such as accelerating from a stop or pulling the car up a hill) then engine speed is limited by the load and minimal vacuum will be created." when you lift off the throttle a vacuum is created and the ensuing difference in pressure through the venturi is whats probably making that sound
I believe the idle jets are until 4k rpm then the main jets kick in.
Umm.. I think the Main next kick in lower in rev range than that..
intake whistle as others have said i had it on several of race cars many years ago could never cure it but did no damage
Running better all the time. Carb balancing is always fun! The whistling sounds like an air leak. Maybe vacuum or a leaking intake or exhaust gasket possibly? Glad to see you still have a face. Yikes!!!
I’m looking forward to your 205gti reviews .
It’s one of my motoring regrets that I never owned one .
Back in the 90s I sold my ax gt with the intention of buying a 1.9gti .
For about 4 weeks I bought the autotrader every Friday lots of 1.6 no 1.9s , eventually gave up and bought a zx volcane same engine and gearbox as the pug ,good car but looking back I should have held out for a gti!
Good cars the ZXs!!
You where lucky with the boil over, but I am delighted it all worked out well as it would have been a tragic, keep the good work going, 👍👍
Thanks Brendan!!!
Sounds like the alternator belt slipping to me. Love your vids and how you get stuck in. Having run a Ferrari for 11 years, funny noises happen and can be bit of a worry. The good times are worth it though.
Thanks Richard! Really glad you’re enjoying the videos!!
Love your videos, have learned a lot from it already and hopefully some will be able to apply on my old Jaguar! I was wondering, you work on the cars with ease, do you have an engineering background?
Hey, no no Engineering back ground just lots of years of trying and usually failing to fix stuff!! Plus asking people who know much more than I do!
@@Number27 Thank you for answering! And that's good to know, as I'm currently on the stage of breaking things 😅🤷🏻♂️
That whistling noise is a common noise in a 328 too. I thought it was odd when I first heard it, but apparently it’s quite normal.
Interesting.. I’ll ask around!
I'm not expert, but it sounds like air leaking in or out of somewhere - split in the intake piping, or vacuum leak?