What would you pick? Ferrari 308 Vs Porsche 911 SC test ends badly!
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- Опубликовано: 3 сен 2020
- Since I first had my Ferrari 308 I wanted to compare it to a 911, now I have the opportunity to drive it alongside a Porsche 911 SC! How will the Ferrari fare against the legendary 911? Which one broke down during the test and why?
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Enzo Ferrari told the story of the prancing horse logo just once:
The horse was painted on the fuselage of the fighter plane of Francesco Baracca - a heroic airman of the first world war. In '23, I met count Enrico Baracca, the hero's father, and then his mother, countess Paulina, who said to me one day, 'Ferrari, put my son's prancing horse on your cars. It will bring you good luck'. The horse was, and still is, black, and I added the canary yellow background which is the colour of Modena.
matt james ......I never knew that cheers for the info 👍
Me either! You learn something new every day!
It’s actually the same horse! The reason it was painted on the plane in the first place was because that pilot shot down a German plane from Stuttgart in World War One. He took the prancing horse from the plane he shot down as a souvenir.
This isn't true. The symbol isn't actually a horse, it's a mule. This is because Enzo Ferrari's favourite game was Buckaroo. So much so that he put a silhouette of the mule on his badge. The early versions had buckets and spades being kicked off by the mike but it was dropped as the badge had to be a foot long in order to accommodate all the equipment.
A Sensible Young Man.......What the hell have you been smoking 😳
Heart - 308, Head - 911....Jack you say you're 'not a professional road tester', well I'd take you over Flintoff and McGuinness as a pundit any day 👍 Good luck with Pepe...
Head wins here too. Heart = repairs, parking anxiety, insurance, etc.
Thank you Matthew, very kind!!!
I agree with absolutely everything you say. I'd certainly take Jack over the corpulent self styled encyclopedia who's name also starts with a J
I have driven both and owned one of them. If I had to choose, it would be the 911 SC, preferably a 79👍
D B you’re talking pipe big man, you drive your mums corsa 🤦🏻
D B pipe mate! Pipe! If I was to hazard a guess, I’d say overweight, American, late 40’s, early 50’s, divorced and bitter? I’d even say mullet back in the day. Stuck in the 70’s/80’s...go on, enlighten us and come out from behind the keyboard
I have owned a 1988 Porsche 911 Targa Carrera and a 1981 Ferrari 308GTSi Euro. I had a lot of stupid little problems with the Porsche and the wind noise from the Targa top was unbearible. The Ferrari 308GTSi was a much better driving car then the Porsche but being a little heavier then the Porsche not a s quick. I drove both cars as my daily driver and I would say the Ferrari was better over all and the A/C worked great.
My Targa (actually, it is no longer mine as I have given it to my son) is a 79' and I had to finally resolve myself to the fact that it pulls harder than my 82' Coupe. Even with the lower C:R the big port heads make a noticeable difference.
@@norberthofer5830 rarely drive with the targa top on…😜. Looks like the Ferrari he has, it looks like a targa top also?
I have a 1989 Porsche 930 Turbo and owned a 1985 308 GTS QV for 10 years. Both cars look stunning and are a blast to drive. In my case the 930 drives circles around the 308 but this is not about going fast. For me it was about the driving experience, maintaining and working on them myself. Both cars are very easy to work on if you have some skill. Enjoy your 308 my friend ! There’s never going to be another one like it.
"The Ferrari's broken down, believe it or not." Why would anyone not believe a Ferrari would break down? While I think the 308/328 is one of the best looking cars ever produced, the lack of quality is something I'm too old to deal with. Too bad the 911 prices are still stupid, they're great cars. That said, your channel is very entertaining thanks to the trials and tribulations that come with owning a Ferrari, so we can all live vicariously through you without having to have our bank accounts pummeled into oblivion. Cheers!
The quality of the Ferrari is very good, unfortunately some owners drive them to the ground to save money.
@@domdegood5376 Somewhere in the late '80s I was in a machine-shop (getting some parts done for a bike restoration I was doing). There was a Ferrari 308 engine in as well. The head machinist was extremely unimpressed by the quality and condition of the 308 engine, and advised the owner to put it back together and sell it pronto.
@@bernhardtsuballa5341 I'd rather run a Fiat. The parts are much cheaper.
which one of you guys, including Bernard Tsuballa, Jason King and Pashak de Scilly has ever owned a 308 or 328?
@@riccardom3208 You do not have to have owned one to know something useful about them. My comment was directly what an expert machinist had to say about a particular engine. He was VERY unimpressed. That is just as, or even more relevant than an owner's comment. I did not claim that I had personal or owner's experience of a Ferrari.
As for ownership, well, I'm into bikes. Apart from a sizeable collection of high quality classic bicycles, I have a 1955 Norton motorcycle which I restored myself, and a 1950 Vincent V twin which I am currently restoring, myself. The engine /gearbox is on a table in my living room.
Do you have hands-on experience of your chosen set of wheels? And what is that?
So glad it was just a snapped cable! The 911's nice, and I myself am actually in the market for one at the moment, but a "Magnum" 308 will always be my first love!
From Wikipedia: The Prancing Horse used as part of Ferrari and Scuderia Ferrari logos and Ferrari symbol.
Count Francesco Baracca (9 May 1888 - 19 June 1918) was Italy's top fighter ace of World War I. He was credited with 34 aerial victories. The emblem he wore side by side on his plane of a black horse prancing on its two rear hooves inspired Enzo Ferrari to use it on his racing car and later in his automotive company. Francesco Baracca's parents, who told Ferrari that their son used to paint a prancing horse on his airplane and suggested that if Ferrari applied the horse on his cars, he would have good luck. Now we know how Ferrari won so many races.
Owned a 1983 911SC and what a superb reliable everyday car. 911 all the way 👍
Interesting. I want one even more now.
@@CLA82529 I highly recommend finding one before the prices get even higher! Pay a reputable shop that specializes in air-cooled to inspect it if you cannot examine it up close. If you don't mind getting your hands dirty, you can do the basic maintenance (minor/major service, ie: oil changes, valve adjustment, V belt replacement, flushing brakes, etc) in your garage with a few hundred dollars (or, one repair bill from a shop) worth of tools.
They are so visceral and raw compared to anything on the road today! Not the fastest but on the right road, it's driving heaven.
@@zonoscopePictures yeah, that's exactly why I want one. I don't need fast cars, I need fun ones.
They are very different... I think they complement more than compete ;) The question is... Which would you take with both in the garage? The 308 is very nice in the highway and the 911 in the turns. I love them both! Franny
Two of my favorite RUclipsrs...Heidi & Franny and Number 27. Glad you guys have met.
Hey Franny you have the best of both worlds so you are very fortunate👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Have both of course :). Daily driver the 911. Weekend fun car, the 308. Easy peasy!
Thanks Franny! Nice to hear from you. Much admire your technical prowess!! Let’s do something soon like you did with Scott! Big hug from Oxford to you and Heidi!
Franny I love your videos as well as Number 27!! Much love from East, TN to the both of you!!
I've driven and love both. The 308 is an absolute eargasm, as most Italian exhaust systems of the day. I daily drive my Porsches as they are reliable and totally predictable. Thanx for another great gearhead review Jack!
I've got the same model and colour 911 SC in Sydney, 25 years ownership, a real joy !
Ferrari's prancing horse emblem was donated to Enzo Ferrari for the racing team when he was racing for Alfa Romeo, by the family fighter pilot Francesco Baracca who felt it would bring him luck!
Thanks for saving me writing that! lol
A Ferrari over a Porsche anyday , even if they break down.
Yeah I think Ducati also pursued acquisition of the emblem. But Ferrari were offered it instead.
anyone vaguely interested in Ferrari should know the origins of the Cavallino Rampante
@@rocketn8 Ducati was only founded 3 years after it was given to Enzo.
"It's like being in an old friend." Interesting choice of words! Chris at Centre Gravity is something of a legend in the Porsche community. If I had 40-50k to spend it would be a 997-2, or even possibly a 991, which you can now get for less than 50k. Everyone likes classic cars, but if I was spending my own money I would get the latest technology I could buy.
Italy cars: heart
German cars: head
I’m a emotional guy... so 🇮🇹
Genau so sieht es aus, das ist die Wahrheit, Great.
Glad jay emm put me onto this your vids are brill and descriptions and explanation joy to watch thankyou 😁👍
Thanks buddy!! James is a good lad!
Great video, loving to see lots of comments and discussion on your videos. It shows that your work is getting appreciated and that your understated and modest style is being appreciated by a wide cross section.
Keep posting these videos as they are compulsory viewing and you are transitioning from cult viewing to mainstream viewing without losing any of your ubiquitous and laconic personality.
Thanks buddy!! Have a good weekend my friend !
Always a Porsche it’s a more daily car and the Porsche G - models have still the best 911 design !
Exactly my thoughts! And cars constructed by german engineering are much more reliable than an italian diva.
I had a 1975 308 GT4 for 20 years. Drove it daily from April 'til December. Once the fixes of what the previous owner passed on were done (brakes, tires, ignition system), I never had any problems. A great, fast, reliable car. At the very end of my ownership, I had to do some work on the carbs. (piece of cake!). Wouldn't hesitate to recommend one to anyone with a bit of mechanical skill, and an ability to use the internet. Wonderful car, and it seemed to enjoy being driven hard and at "throw me in jail" speeds as much as I did.
A daily car?...
....these sort of cars would and should never attract because they are better daily’s. With cars like that it’s all about engagement, stimulating the senses.... and then, it’s of course personal preferences what stimulates your senses - hopefully it’s not day2day qualities 😉🙄✌️ Regards from my 1989 G-model and my 512 TR.
@franz stockmann 70% of Porsches are still on the road? Does that mean the rest made it back to their garages? (Like the old Harley joke.)
Is that a front porche, or a back porche? Although Porsche styling or some of the engineering is not to my liking, at least porsches are not styled by Hans & Klaus who draw inspiration from a piece of 5cm X10cm Bavarian pine.
Just yanking your chain, so don't go alt-left loonie on me.
“It’s like being in an old friend.” Had a chuckle. The chocolate leather interior on the 930 is awesome btw.
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I would think the 911 would be easier and cheaper to maintain, and just enough fun. Extra points for the 308 since the roof comes off.
well I used to own a 911 SC... and it was not cheap to maintain- cheaper than a Ferrari? probably yes- but not actually cheap. The problem is not the cars construction though- it is the parts and the workshops (at least in Germany). And in the last 10 years classic Porsches have become so overpriced that nobody is actually driving their car and they are mostly kept in storage and that is the only thing they are not good at...
@@olik136 I guess I am counting on their air-cooling to reduce maintenance. One less system to worry about. I would also thing the aftermarket support for 911s to be better.
They are both horribly expensive. For what you get they are rubbish like most european cars. The only cars reasonable to maintain are proberly the ford cortina or escort.
The 911 offers a Targa option too
I do all the work on my '81 911SC, and it's not horribly expensive. Oil change is $100 though since it takes 10 quarts of high ZDDP oil. IMO, if you are going to own a 30-40-50 year old vehicle, it's not a bad idea to know how to work on it.
Wow! Your exhaust was miced up perfectly because it sounds killer in the intro!!
308 for me. It seems that little bit more soulful😀
Own both. The 308 is wonderful in many respects but feels like a cheap kit car compared to the Porsche.
@D B Lol they are sitting side-by-side as I type but must not be true since it's not the answer you agree with.
@@sambone8213 you're full of crap. Die cast model cars dont count.
Your enthusiasm is the reason i watch your channel,keep them coming
There is a well known "short shifter" modification for the Porsche 915 gearbox, if you dislike the long throw.
Both of these models can be seen racing each other on screen, in the movie "Against All Odds." James Woods drives the 308, and Jeff Bridges drives the Porsche.
Thanks for the video: There's no right or wrong - we can't all like the same thing. For me, the 308 is lovely but the 911 is a more nuanced car and has more to offer in the long run.
It's takes a while to get the best out of it (but learning is half the fun), it's fast, comfortable, well built and it's even more practical but like I said, each to their own. Enjoy whatever makes you happy!
I simply can NOT get bored with your vids! This comparison was fair and impartial, and the truth is, I'd love to own both! Thank you again for the eye and ear candy vids you keep producing. Well done!
Very kind, thank you!!
Typically never comment on youtube and social media but just to say, videos are great. Been lucky enough to experience many cars on the road and in a race environment and think you do a great job with the videos. Keep it going. Thanks
Thank Andy, really appreciate that!
Ferrari ..... she’s temperamental and demands much love, but she will love you back like no other!
she loves you only when you give her lot of money ....this car is a real bitch !
@@marcuslambert8722 lol that's why I stick to the loyal Porsche she loves me unconstitutionaly!
big up the AA/RAC guys, they have saved me a couple of times and been great
classic mate! 😁 really enjoyed that one mate 👍🏻👌🏼
I found the Wevo short shifter was the best improvement for the 915 box. Much shorter throw and notched selector which totally transforms the agricultural 915 box.
The 3.2 Carrera only received the G50 box in the last couple of years just prior to the 964.
Another cracking video Jack! I much prefer listening to a "normal bloke " talk about cars than a journalist so don't put your self down 😉 ....... dont tell the InfluEnzo but id take the 911 out of the two🤫 👍
Thank you buddy! Have a great Saturday!
@@Number27 you to Jack 👍
..which leaves the enthusiasts car for me :)
@@davidstuart4915 No because im already taking the 911! 🤣😉
@@ryanmccormick2150 and u r welcome :)
It’s called G50 🙂
The brake pedal is adjustable, so heal toe is a non issue on 11s.
Really? Did not know that! Thanks!
Number 27 will send you a pic on FB 😉
but not enough....?
I was going to be quite surprised if the breakdown was the other way around! Great video.
Thank you!! And for watching!
Great video. I have a ‘76 911 targa in my garage that I am working on as I may have mentioned. So to get your perspective between the two, and also your feedback on the 911 is insightful. Your 308 sounds much better than the 911. The fact that your 308 broke down during the video really underscores the reliability discrepancy between the two. Classic.
Jacob -- good luck on getting the Targa back on the road! Where are you located?
Both vehicles are desirable..... and well out of my reach 🥴. The Ferrari 🎶 is vastly improved now and I just wouldn't know which to go for if the funds were available 🤔.
With regards to "Pepe", have you got any leads yet? If not then I know a YT host with a different audience who, if asked, might help. Please let me know on this one Jack. Cheers 👍
They're both fab cars. Save up and own both! These will only ever go up in value. ❤️❤️
This is an amazing video. I was always looking for this comparison.
You might have been able to fix that clutch cable with Bondic, at least to get you home. I own a classic Porsche and keep some in the glove box - you never know!
Damn ! I didn't expect a Vespa-like clutch cable on such cars. And to think even my humble Alfa 33 gets an hydraulic command as standard...
Great video. To me, the 911 has always looked too much like a Beetle while the 308 is a rolling piece of art. I'd take the 308 hands down over the 911 any day, but like you, I'd expect it to break down repeatedly.
Exactly what I think about the Beetle lookalike. The 911 is the safe option, you'll not have the German on ramps anywhere near as long, but they're so drab, that interior is pretty non descript too.
308 all day for me, I'd forgive its fragile nature for those looks. Absolutely stunning 🇮🇹👍
@@neilwalsh4058 Don't worry I'll pick you up in my Porsche when your Ferrari breaks down in the middle of the road lol. And will both yell out POS Ferrari!
It's like being in an old friend (5.03) 😂😂😂
Ha!! As I edited it I knew that phrase would be picked up ...
Good video, enjoyed it. The car can't really be faulted for the clutch cable, that's just an age/maintenance issue. You've started regularly driving an aged car which probably hasn't seen much use and those sort of things are going to bubble to the surface. Good on you for getting out and about in it and sharing it with us.
Nice to see you've hit over 30k subs
Without watching it, I say the Ferrari broke down first.
Me too 🤣🤣
Absolutely..... the red one 🤣🤣
However I would rather drive that old Ferrari.
@@mthxjzz6462 Till you stop in the side of the road
@@thatdeathstepguy8719 yeah that would suck. But its an oldtimer. Love it or hate it.
The 308 is the cooler car for sure. But I would take the 911 any day. At the end you need a car which drives :-)
Great you got the clutch cable fixed in the field!
Awesome vid, great comparison. I reckon quite a few on here would love to see your F308 Vs an Esprit Turbo if you can lay your hands on one. God I love that SC - so pretty and the 308’s sounding great!
'Like being in an old old friend?' - Choose your words carefully mate.
Ha!! As I edited it I knew that phrase would be picked up ...
A special friend...😂
That's how I feel when I'm with my ex gf
@@davidzshit You are a king among men
911 all day, its the best by over 1million miles
Great video. And as the former owner of a 308, I agree with the specialness of it...and still a stunningly beautiful car all these years later. Ironically, the only time my 308 broke down it was also the clutch cable. At the time the car was 14 years old and it was the original cable with just over 90,000 miles on it. I had organized my support system of mechanics ahead of time, so even though it broke at 5 pm on a Friday afternoon, I was back on the road by 11:30 am Saturday morning. Never had another issue with the car in the 3 years and 36,000 miles I owned/drove it. Having to be more frugal with my money these days, I recently bought the true sports car bargain of today, a 2001 Porsche 996 C4. 82,000 miles with a good service history, it is a pleasure to drive, and it gives me a wonderful analog experience. But if I could get back into a 308, I would. Preferably for me, a Dino 308 gt4...I love the little back seat as a catch all. Truly enjoying all your videos. Thanks.
I have to add that I drove my 308 every day, it was my only car. Drove it to work, to the supermarket, to jury duty, took the animals to the vet...and again, only one breakdown. But I was seduced by the speed of a 93 RS America and that became the first of five Porsches. But the 308 was the purest car I've owned.
Great video as always ✌🏼
have owned mostly bmw's and a couple porsche's. german cars have never left me stranded.
Simple - Ferrari. I have owned 911s but every time I had one it just didn’t feel special. Clutch cable is nothing to do with build quality
Christ in Shades good as a weekend car. Mind you I always think that everyone thinks Porsche’s are bulletproof it they are defo not.
Happy 2021 Jack👍🇬🇧
Interesting comparison, nicely done 👍 (surprised you weren’t ’buzzed’ by Harry Metcalfe on your test road! 😆)
Ha!! Yes I’ve not run into him yet..
A no-brainer to me; the Porsche of course!
Seems to be a lot of no brainers about.
308 all day long. Even I've managed to own a Porsche once in my life.
Yep 308 any day of the week. All though I own a 328GTS.
Valisk...who cares...even back then a diminished performance Ferrari. Pretentious much?
@@deevnn you obviously care, Because you responded. Haha.
@@deevnn Nothing pretentious about wanting to own a car I've loved since I was a kid.
Another great video. Really enjoying the ups and downs of car ownership through your eyes. I have a 1984 Porsche Turbo Look (I think it’s called a Supersport in the UK) and a much newer 911 as well. I hadn’t driver the ‘84 911 in a couple of months so I took it out earlier this week and was honestly amazed all over again at how nice it drives and handles. Keep up the great Videos. How much did the body shop repairs on the 308 set you back?
I got 308 and SC, they are my dream cars since I watched movie Against all odds in 1984.
911 for me, Porsche fanboy! 🙂 Your 308 sounds lovely though.
Having owned a few Ferrari's and a couple of 911's - Porsche all day, every day thanks. Ferrari is too fragile, attracts the wrong sort of attention (mid life crisis etc) and the old 911's are very classy now IMO. The Ferrari thing is for many a lifelong automotive dream but the journey to owning one is better than the arrival. After you get acclimatised to ownership, the liability that they are with huge parts costs and outside of enthusiasts, the cars unfortunately draw a very negative reaction from most unless they are 12 year old lads. That said, the Prancing Horse will always hold a special place in many petrolheads hearts (including mine) but take away the sound......and they're just not that good.
Sage.
John K you’ll never hear that joke when talking about Ferrari’s. That joke is usually brought up with lifted big trucks
"A few Ferraris and couple of 911s" - I don't think so.
@@darrellsimpson6966 don't cry
@@GODWITHUS0712 Keep saving.
Thank you for showing these two wonderful classic examples of automotive benchmarks. I truly do love the Ferrari 308 GTSi and the 1984 Porsche 911 with a whale tail will always stop me dead in my tracks. Have a wonderful weekend and I look forward to more content like this!
Thank you sir!
Such an original presentation. No tricks no stories.
As a young lad, I had 4 posters on my bedroom wall : a 308 GTS Quatrovalvole, a Testarossa, an F40 and a Lamborghini Countach. Never, ever did a Porsche make it onto my wall. And in the end, that’s why we buy those cars now. Not for the way they drive, but because we lusted after them all those years ago. And in that sense, there can only be one winner.
308 so much more character. You've just started the journey of restoration so keep your chin up mate, I'm still very envious of your ferrari.
I was always a massive fan of Magnum and therefore I love the Influenzo. It really is sounding wonderful now. 💕 I was never really a Porsche fan.
These days, if I ever had the money to spend on a dream car, as in one on my bucket list, it'd be a Pista. I just love the styling of them. As for a general dream car, it'd be a classic Mini (I currently own an f56 Mini)
One thing you can say about both cars: how small in size they are compared to todays cars.
Great when parking or enjoying narrow country roads.
The latest offerings from both companies seem huge.
14 years ago I was choosing between used unloved 964 and 348.
Chose the 964, still have it, my only car, drives great on newly refurbished suspension.
One piece of advice I was given before choosing: check the the parts cost and availabilty.
Porsche, no question :)
really?! have u driven both though?
My dream garage has one of each of those - each is the iconic shape of its marque. They evoke stronger emotion visually than their modern descendants.
Hopefully one day... !
i think the 930 3.3 turbo is prob the iconic shape of 911dom and the GTS will forever be the Magnum car, and better for it - as well as owning a couple of SCs I have driven a couple of 308s - one of them being GRP - the Ferrari makes you feel even more special - having said that, I had the 911s in my 20s and felt very proud looking back at the parked 911 (black with 3.3 turbo tail) - the door fit, feel and sound on closing is pretty special just by itself :) - GTS with Quad sports Ansa, panel out...just dribbling around town with that glorious over-run burble made you feel like a film star....errr, Magnum :)
"It is just a clutch cable..." My experience with Ferrari is that it is always "just something." Though an intoxicating experience when all is well, my prediction is after a few more years you will be slowly worn down and want a reliable driver with very few real surprises. I'm sticking with my '88 911. Thanks for another great cars and coffee morning in my living room!
I'm on my third Ferrari. Started with a Mondial > F355 > 360. The Mondial was 23 when I bought it and it did have a useless fuse box. Sure the F355 had a few small issues but nothing to hold it back. 360 had been perfect. With cars now it is more how previous owners have kept them.
That was a very fair and balanced video, Jack. Nice job!
Thank you Gina!! Loved the SC!
Except he didn’t even bother to learn the history of the Ferrari prancing horse.
Serious question.
Do you actually fit in it with the roof on??
Just about.. but not very comfortable
Number 27 haha I thought there may be a clearance issue
I did wonder myself
"It's like being in an old friend."
MCM fam: " Hi Cheryl!"
Yeah 4.50 sec that got me worried! I've never "Been In" any of my old friends! not male anywaz! lol.....not!
Ha!! Ha!! As I edited it I knew that phrase would be picked up ...
Number 27 Glad I didn't disappoint!
You are so patient with the Ferrari. Thank you for the films . Best wishes mark
I’m a big fan of that SC, sounds really sweet but the influenzo is just another level of sound now with its new exhaust . Music to my ears!
I’m going to have to go with the Ferrari. The sound and feeling they give you is just second to none.
Heart and Head will always be the 911
Another top video and glad to see you big up the AA! Had to call them myself a year or so ago when the thermostat went on my RS4, the guy who came out knew the car well and again he was able to do enough to get me home. If I had to choose, I’d go with the 308, because it’s still one of the most beautiful cars ever made, I absolutely love the 911 in almost all of its forms, but that 308 is so damn gorgeous!
As others have said the prancing horses are the same (Stuttgart coat of arms). I will take the 911 all day long and have owned my 1969 911T for over 16 years.
There nothing like the 69-73 911. Had a 1970 S , but I would have loved to have a 72-73 911E.
Do you live close to me Brendan? Would love to do a video on the 911T.. send me a message on insta!
Best day of your life is buying an old Ferrari, second best day is when you sell it...
Neil Gaydon yea, no. You don’t have a clue.
S Schroeder ...it’s English humour...sorry you missed it...
Neil Gaydon when it comes to boats, aye, Ferrari, nyet.
There's no best day for you then.
The pork is just not special enough, so I'd always opt for the 308, and make sure I get a good, looked after one.
One of my favourites has always been the Porsche 959 ,i remember Daily Thompson bought one back in the 80s,i just love how the suspension can bea adjusted and it goes over 190mph which is mental,and it looks beautiful,red or silver I'm not fussy.
Great video and thoroughly enjoyed the comparison. Out if the two, my choice would be the 308. Its a little sexier than the SC. It think it grabs the eye better. I also enjoyed the sound from the 308. I'm an ex-pat living in Melbourne and have recently bought a Mazda RX8 as a toy. I really enjoy driving it and it puts a smile on my face every time I get behind the wheel. You did a great job with your video and thanks for posting!
Wish I still had my 911 3.2. sold it 14 years ago for 13k!
Und den ferrari für 30k !!
I am with you, sold my 83SC once I had kids in 2005. Now I have reoccurring nightmares . The only therapy is to buy more cool cars
Ferrari vs Porsche... See the movie “Against all odds” 😉
As both a F 308 and P 964 owner, I really enjoyed your video, Jack! Such different cars. The 964’s were so much more refined it’s not a good comparison. The 308 sounds amazing and feels very different. The 911 driving position is so much better like you said. The 911 sounds so 911’ish! The Porscha ;) is much more solid and will drive all day. The 308 is more kit car but super fun. Definitely more people recognizing the 308 over a ‘lowly’ 911 (tongue in cheek).
'Like being in an old friend!' Pmsl, weve all been there!!! ;) Love the Influenzo vids!
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In Germany it's called a Porsch-e with two syllables...
Porsche is ok but give me a Lotus over either.
MuuuuuHaaaaaaa!!! Dammit, i can't stop laughin'
Great video man! I love your style and how you hit all points. Did you end up getting that Yellow 930 car with the Vin questions? I will follow!
Thanks!! No, I passed on that one!
These videos are strangely addictive.
Never liked Porsche but i understand why people love them. I just dont like the shapes and they are not aggressive. Porsche is made by engineers and Ferrari and lambo are made by artists.
Porsche had great engineers, to be sure, but had great artistry as well. Porsche styled their own cars, never made a practice of farming out the coachwork to outside designers as Ferrari and Lamborghini did.
Das ist gut,sogar sehr gut !!
308 every time.
When I was about 12, my older sister's then husband had a Targa SC, in red, with the whale tail and tan leather interior. For a schoolboy in 1980 suburban Perth (W.Australia), it was like something from Mars. I can still smell that interior to this day.
Always a great video to watch, thanks . . . .doh, hope she’s ok now.
911SC I can't fit 308.
I was considering a 308 recently until I read that it’s a tighter fit. I’m 6’2” and fit great in my 83SC cabriolet (sold too soon😞)
Porsche is nice.....but I still would prefer the 308 everyday
The 308 sounds proper, now! Fine workmanship, too. Well done to your exhaust shop.
I love these old analog sports cars, and I'm old enough to remember them as new cars:
Contemporary road testers judged the 308's handling somewhere between very good and brilliant, but all mid-engine cars were tricky on the limit. Nobody likes offset pedals, most don't care for the 'classic Italian driving position', either. 'Ferrari build quality' was an oxymoron in those days. This vibrant Italian woman is dead sexy, but annoying and prone to breakdowns.
911 handling was somewhere between frightening and terrifying, anywhere near the limit (but with brilliant steering feel). Novices need not apply. Oddly arranged, bottom-pivoting pedals made heel & toe difficult as hell. Build quality was second to none. Buttoned-down and conservative, yet compellingly unique, this bitch is dangerous when cornered.
A US contemporary was the C4 Corvette, at about $25k. Fastest of the group. Built better than the 308, not as well as the 911. The truly front-mid mounted ~230 hp / ~330 lb-ft Chevy small block, lighter than the 911's flat six, made it precise and predictable at the limit. Robust, at 1520 kilos. Excellent ergonomics, but climbing over the high door sills was a PITA. Choose a comfortable yet well-controlled suspension, or an uncompromising track package called Z-51. Beautiful twin sisters with different personalities, sturdy country girls at heart.
It's interesting how relative values can change so drastically over time. When new, we had the Ferrari at $45k, the Porsche at $30k, and the Corvette at $25k. Now, the Ferrari is still worth $45k (+0%), the Porsche a shocking $90k (+200%), while a perfect Corvette might bring $20k (-20%).