Congratulations on finding the problem and compliments on the clever method you employed to do it. Too many mechanics these days are nothing more than parts changers and your methodical diagnostic approach should be commended. Well done.
Did you notify Tyrell of your coil discovery ? What is flawed in modern coils, to not work properly with old Italian engine designs, when changing direction, in your case, turning right ? There must be happening something like a disconnect somehow due to a pulling or pushing, which seems odd, unless there is rather a ECU print plate issue, whenever modern coils are being used. I saw something similar with another type Ferarri. That was a guy who bought cheap supercars with money provided by his step mom.
m.ruclips.net/video/tEBe6QWTk9U/видео.html samrac - similar Ferarri, know for ECU issues, that may thus be caused when hooking up new electric engine components
That is fantastic mate. Seeing the bank cut out must have been such a relief to actually know where to find the problem. Love the perseverance and glad it paid off.
Mate, you have no idea how happy I was when I saw that bank cut out. I was absolutely dreading having to take the carbs apart again.. with no idea of hear might be wrong!!
The folks that thumbed this video down have never owned a "vintage" car. The joy of persisting with a series of diagnoses to get to the core of issues impacting the performance of your car is hard to describe. Great to see you smiling pal! Car is looking, sounding and driving fantastic.
Same here i sent him a message on Instagram saying i had the same issue with an old mini with horizontally mounted cool cutting out on cornering tot one side...
Been watching you for months. Don’t know why I hadn’t subscribed. Just have. Congrats on finding the problem and please keep your videos coming. I’ve practically given up on watching telly. Your videos are both entertaining and very well edited.
Never would've thought it'd be the coil especially since they were new & Bosch. "They don't make them like they used to" Never been more true. Congrats 👍
A lot of Bosch stuff has gone down the toilet. Always had as much Bosch as possible in the past. Washer & dryer lasted 25yrs plus. Then, 2 Bosch leccy hedge trimmers, 2 yrs in & the eccentric mechanism in both that gives the blades their reciprocating action died. Bosch lawnmower cuts great, but the height adjuster is truly a POS after only 2 yrs. Jammed & the plastic handle broke. New Bosch washing machine is as good as the old one (both need a few extra kettles of water due to this water saving rubbish all manufacturers are obsessed with - just stop Nestlé hogging it all), but the Condenser Tumble dryer is a POS. The plastic door handle snapped & forums prove it's a common issue. The fluff filter doesn't work at all. The condenser needs regular cleaning. There's a hidden flap where access to a float sensor gets blocked too. No info in manuals, Bosch website etc. Frustrated RUclipsr highlighted it. Was on the verge of binning the dryer after 3 years till RUclipsr solved the problem, but it regularly needs an arm up the outlet & the condenser cleaning out. Bosch's solution on later models? A gasket round the filter? A friend's Hotpoint NEVER needs clearing (4 adults in rented house. Lots of use. No. A 2nd filter AROUND the 1st filter With a F##koff great big plastic moulding. Not a simple rectangular seal? 😅😂🤣 German engineering? German planned obsolescence & German parts sales more like. The dual filter is their way of ensuring they don't get a class action law suit for "not fit for purpose", maybe? I avoid Bosch these days...
Logic: old coil,no bogging:new coil, bogging. You gave yourself a lot of hard times and worry by straying from the obvious but I am delighted for you all the same. Cheers
This was happening to me on my Alfa. I had replaced the coil a few years ago for a hot start issue, solved that, then had this annoying issue where the car would cut out going around corners. It ended up getting worse, and engine heat made it worse. I watched a 'Heidi and Franny' episode where they measured the leads on their Porsche's coil, and did that to mine. It was way out of tolerance on the primary leads. Then I discovered that THE AUTOPARTS STORE GAVE ME A NON ELECTRONIC IGNITION COIL. I looked up the tolerances of the original coil, and bought an MSD high output coil. Problem solved. The original coil was Bosch and NLA, and the 'next best thing' Bosch had was out of stock in all of the Alfa parts houses.
I bought a set of eight of those plug testers a few years ago from Halford's and still remain in their blister packs. I would never have considered a new coil to be at fault particularly of German manufacture. Obviously the makers have an issue with quality control. Glad to see you have finally solved the most irritating of problems.
One of those marvellous DEEP JOY moments which makes working on an old car with problems so very rewarding when you suss out something by yourself. Been there, done that more than a few times and will never tire of that experience.
YEEEEYYYY, i dont think i have ever been so happy to see a "fix" on youtube before :) so so pleased you have fixed that issue, onwards and upwards...fantastic, brilliant, amazing. :)
Reminds me of a time I had an old Peugeot diesel. It was always a first crank starter until one day a glow plug went down. Bought a new pack of plugs and installed them all and next morning, it was still rough. Top and tail was I assumed it to be an engine fault and left it for about a year. Until one day, I saw my arse and decided to have another look and wouldn't you know it? A faulty plug. It had obviously never warmed. One new plug later and it was back to behaving itself impeccably. Ironically, a Bosch part was my saviour in this case 😂. Great video and a solid lesson for us all. Cheers, pal :)
I bought a 500 dollar mercedes 300se. it had a straight six that wouldnt run right untill higher rpms.... the k-jetronic injection system can be a problem to adjust without the proper tools. it ran great after it was adjusted properly. if not for all of the hassels I had gone through with a 77' 924 back in the day I would have walked away from an opportunity to actually profit on a car.... should have kept it. that was a nice car.
So pleased for you, as a serious petrolhead myself there is nothing better than hunting for problems, researching and actually in the end sorting them….. it really does take you on some highs and lows along the way! Lol….. keep the vids coming, really enjoy your content, a very natural presenter….. been watching from the early days 👍👍👍👍👍
My mentor once told me this: "All carb problems are ignition, all ignition problems are carbs." Ok, maybe more than once! He didn't mean it literally but I had just learned the hard way that very thing. And I see that you have as well! Congrats! I know that more mayhem is to come but this was a great victory!!
Love the determination and meticulous and inventive ways you've gone about diagnosing this fault. Who would have thought. Hope you get something back from Heir Bosche 🙂
Congratulations! Perseverance pays off. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Once you sort out the other bits, do not sell it!! It would be impossible for anyone else to appreciate it as much as you.
Great video, I work in diagnostics (not cars) and the feeling you get when you solve a tricky problem and find the little bugger that's the culprit is ace.
Awesome, great job. Regular coils are usually isolated by a coating of plastic and sometimes it can ground out, but it is strange that it only occurred on right turns. They make higher performance coils that are oil isolated, maybe something to consider in the future. Coils are usually just rated by size and resistance, so you can use many different kinds and experiment. I went away from Bosch blue's and use oil filled coils now, but I do sometimes use Lucas coils. It all comes from China mostly.
Think I am almost as happy as you are to see this fix! Well done Jack I love your perseverance, just like me and the watches I take on, I’m too damn stubborn to be beaten. Great bit of fault finding!
Well done! As a professional auto mechanic in the USA, I can appreciate the feeling you get from a job well done. It's what keeps me in the profession. Part detective and part grease monkey. When in doubt...test! Again well done.
So happy for you man !!! I've had similar experiences over the years keeping my old XKEs working. Most recent success was saving the headlight on my Lotus last week. A previous owner had overtightened the retaining allen screws and broken the brackets so they wouldn't hold on the headlight cover. Replacement cover was about $1000 USD. I pulled the cover and the broken plastic pieces and used the super glue and baking soda trick. I glued the cracked pieces together, then put a bead of super glue over the crack and sprinkled baking soda on it. That forms an instant solid which is very hard. Added some wire mesh screen for strength over the cracked area and likewise covered it with layers of super glue and baking soda. It ended up stronger than the surrounding original plastic. A friend repaired a small leak on an air compressor several years ago with this method and it is still holding so it works on metal as well. A very useful, fast repair method to add into my old car repair tricks. If you haven't used it, try it out sometime when all is lost on an old/hard to find part.
Well done! That would've ben the last thing that I suspected. A coil is just two windings with a core and an oil bath for heat transfer. It's really rare to have an internal loose connection.
I'd wondered about some sort of loose component in the coil. Got to be the strangest fault I've ever come across. Could it be the movement of the oil somehow affecting the voltage generation. 🤷♂️
See I'm thinking the oil sloshing around may be the cause. Maybe a bit of swarf in the oil moves to the back of the coil on RH turns shorts out something? Defo weird
If it was me, I'd put the 'iffy' Bosch coil back on and see if the issue returns. If it does return there is no question that it's the coil at fault rather than an iffy connection to/from the coil that got fixed when swapping coils...
Really pleased you sorted that (and feeling a little smug as one of the guys saying it sounded electrical from the off 😇) . Brilliantly imaginative setup with the spark indicators and cameras - never would have thought of doing that and it was so clear 👍 The influenzo is getting better and better in your care 😊
I am so pleased for you. This is a pathetic paradigm but my ride on mower back fired on steep hills. We tried everything and it turned out to be the grass box interlock affected by the slope. The relief was amazing but nothing compared to sorting your Ferrari. Forza Ferrari
Had an experience with my 76' X1\9 which almost drove me crazy.....until I started to put together reasons why on rainy days it wouldn't start. Turned out if it was parked on an incline, a drop of outside water could drip onto the engine firewall insulation, which was a quilted blanket with a metallic finish on the engine side. This drop would short out the condenser lead which was a mm away from the metal surface. Solution. Put a bead of silicone on the lead which prevented the short. Your 308 is beautiful and have been watching the series. Hope one day it runs trouble fee! I'd love it in my garage even if it didn't run! 😁
This is a great example of a calm approach supported by a logic, systemic thought process. Very well done ! Agree with the comments below that this channel is a step up from "parts swapping" channels.
Brilliant! I’m so happy for you! I don’t think there would have been a better reason for it not working than a brand new German part being to blame and an old original Italian part being the fix. Hilarious.
Need to complete the ABA test ie the Bosch coil is A and the Marelli coil is B. Just be sure that is the coil and not the disturbance to the wires caused by changing the coil, that fixed the issue. Else there is a risk of the fault returning, when the wires settle back to their old positions.
Inside the coil is windings and at the factory when a spool of wire has ended a new spool is used and the wires are connected by way of a knot and if this comes undone then this fault will appear!
@@giuseppegiacomoni7058 Good info. I take it where the knot is made the insulation is removed? They do the same when making co-axial cable, the machine operators are constantly knotting wires together.
Are these kind of coils oil filled for insulation and cooling? I seem to recall someone saying years ago (unless i'm thinking of something else). If this is the case and the oil level was low, if when the oil moved to one side and leaves air i.e less insulation it could break down / track /arch. Just a thought. I could be totally wrong....
Fantastic news Jack. Well done. I was so badly willing the coil to fix your right turn misfire issue, and I was with the previous attempted fixes too. What a triumph, and like you said, not what you would have imagined to be the issue when turning right at all. The Influenzo sounds awesome. Hope you can get some serious enjoyment from it now. By god do you deserve it 👌 Keep the great and interesting videos coming. They’re really enjoyable, and sometimes frustrating (but in a good way) 👍
The oil useage might be caused by unburnt fuel washing down the bores when the coil wasn't firing. This could cause dilution/thinning out the oil which in turn could cause higher oil consumption. As for Bosch coils, they were OEM fitment on older bmw's and older Volvo's of which i still own 1. I have never ever had problems with a Bosch coil. So it must have been a freak part. BTW you can actually MEASURE if a coil is good or bad by measuring the resistance (Ohm's) on the primary and secondary windings. I bet that Bosch coil is actually OK but there might have been an issue with the 12V/ground connections to the coil.
Then explain the old Marelli coil working fine Fairly confident he swapped back & forth just to check it was the Bosch, in case it was a loose connection. Doubt he's too dim to not have checked.... 🤦
Bloody Well Done Jack!!! Never in a Million Years would I think that this ongoing issue was due to The New Bosch Coil... I'm seriously over the Moon with this news and BTW... I absolutely Love the Christmas Lights that go above the Spark Plugs. Awesome work, Brilliant deduction! The World is Yours my friend and Congratulations Jack! ❤🙏❤
Sending a massive American high five. Ow your face when you realised, like a kid getting the present he’s been wanting all year at Christmas. Ow hell yeah keep going things come in 3s
You're happy, you're happy Jack, I'm ecstatic, I get to keep my left nut, because I previously bet it on the problem with "Influenzo" being electric. Years ago my Mum's old Mini had a "shorting coil", the engine "stuttered" on big bumps, took ages to find. Great result Jack, and great entertainment...
Fantastic! Great job figuring it out. It is so good when you can figure out and fix something. It makes you more positive when tackling the rest of the issues. But with this Italian mule I am sure the highs and lows will continue! 8^)
I feel like we all felt the excitement with you and the pain in the past. I’m sure we can all relate to situations like this and it’s such a joy to solve. If I were you I would have stayed up all night driving doing right hand turns. Lol. Great work and thanks for never giving up and documenting it for us.
So pleased for you. I’ve just had a similar problem with my Jaguar XJS V12 with a misfire on one bank of cylinders and it’s so satisfying when you find the issue which was also a faulty coil for me too. We done. 👍
Hahaha I loved your reaction because I've been there too and when you actually diagnose and fix the issue... it's like Christmas, your birthday and getting a big raise and bonus all at once. Well done!
Bravo, Jack. You did it. The car is running perfectly. It would be a shame to sell it since you will never get another, and the work you put into it can never be taken away as long as you own the car. Now the fun should be to use it through the years, and document all the positive experiences you have with it. It can even be pressed into service as a daily driver when necessary (as when you sell the Alfa and start looking for its replacement). If the oil additive cleans the rings, great. If it still burns oil...well let it...most Italian cars do at various points in their lives...and still they run and run and run. It is now time to enjoy your Ferrari ownership in a way you haven't.
I'm still somewhat skeptical that it was the coil, more likely a wiring connection issue in my opinion. Perhaps you could put it back in again and retest just to verify?
I'm thinking the oil inside sloshing around maybe causing the primary/secondry windings to overheat perhaps? Insufficient oil. I'm sure the coil amplifier and coil would be a matched pair. So fitting a replacement might not give the coil enough power for a full spark. (Like 85% spark instead of 100%) Strange how it wouldn't work on RH corners?
And if it is the coil, and some kind of sloshing problem, then it should be possible to reinstall, get it to fail on right turns as before, then rotate the coil 180 degrees and get it to fail on left turns. (assuming mounted vertically.)
Ha ha ha!!!!!! Oh my God!!!!! I've been feeling your pain but now I'm feeling your joy!!! Well done!! Cracking idea to use those plug indicators and film them!!! Outstanding! Go open a beer! I was convinced it was still the carbs. There's no logic whatsoever to it cutting out on right turns only with a faulty coil. None whatsoever. And when the coil is new anyway???!! No way. But that was a stroke of genius, mate, well done indeed.
Come on Jack - I mean, this is hardly surprising is it? Everyone knows that German car parts are trash and old Italian stuff is really reliable. No... hang on... wait... (I'd love to know exactly what is wrong with that new coil though, and huge congrats for fixing the issue)
Awesome. Been watching since you bought this in your pajamas all those lockdowns ago, well done mate. Love the ingenuity and dogged persistence that’s got your little Italian sport car back to rude health. I can’t believe how happy this has made us all . Best wishes from Spain
The solution for bogging down on right hand corners is to become a NASCAR race car driver and only turn left. Seriously though, I'm happy you found the problem- loved the victory laugh!
Genuinely great to see you buzzing with the car running s much better. I did comment on the previous video that I doubted it was fuel related but was good to see a logical diagnosis. It would be interesting to refit the Bosch coil, that may point to whether it is low tension wiring that has been disturbed. You have amazing patience with this damn car, well done.
Delighted for you, well done and thanks for sharing the journey. I had an Uncle who could only turn left when out in his car, he would have loved the old Influenzo
In 1979, I got told by the late Jeff Carter from Australia that the DCNF'S were not designed for transverse apps, so you have to adjust the float height working range ( static and drop) like Austin Rover eventually did in the R series Maestro 1600 twin carb. The Noid lights....great idea. Nice Sluth Work Holmes! The flat plane crank mean the Marelli distributer problems can be seem Pronto!
Brilliant, Number 27! (Applauding) Bravo! Congratulations! I've heard in the past about new parts not working at all. That can happen to the best of them (mechanics). That's why we need to learn how to test all new parts before installing. Yet, I still don't know how to do that. Maybe that's something you could make a video about. I'm already subscribed because I look forward to see you getting Influenzo sorted & enjoying the drive. Two Thumbs Up!
Great to see the 'proper' car back in video. (Hope your jeans don't have studs as you sat on your nearside wing and rear panel!) Really pleased you have got a result and found the problem, due to your positivity and determination. Great stuff again.
Just goes to show that just because something is new it does not mean it's working as it should, when I was a appreciate I used to get this drilled into me all the time but it still got me once or twice. Congratulations on finding the fault, it's always amazing when you get that problem finally figured out 👍
I don't quite know why someone else fixing their Ferrari should lift my whole day but it has! Well done.
For those that have never had this feeling…this is exactly what it’s like. So so happy for you
Oh yes, been there. On my dearest, restored Datsun 510. Simply madening. Electricals have always been a nightmare.
I get that felling every time I manage to get out of bed and make it to the loo, it's the little things in life.
was thinking he same thing.... its a hell of a high!
@@malfunction8165 The loo !
Off to the loo with you 😂
There’s nothing like the feeling of utter relief when you track down a fault after a LONG period of diagnosis!! Great result! 👍
Congratulations on finding the problem and compliments on the clever method you employed to do it. Too many mechanics these days are nothing more than parts changers and your methodical diagnostic approach should be commended. Well done.
Here here Sir, agreed
Thanks buddy, much appreciated!!
Did you notify Tyrell of your coil discovery ?
What is flawed in modern coils, to not work properly with old Italian engine designs, when changing direction, in your case, turning right ?
There must be happening something like a disconnect somehow due to a pulling or pushing, which seems odd, unless there is rather a ECU print plate issue, whenever modern coils are being used.
I saw something similar with another type Ferarri. That was a guy who bought cheap supercars with money provided by his step mom.
m.ruclips.net/video/tEBe6QWTk9U/видео.html
samrac - similar Ferarri, know for ECU issues, that may thus be caused when hooking up new electric engine components
The most serious username 😃!
That is fantastic mate. Seeing the bank cut out must have been such a relief to actually know where to find the problem. Love the perseverance and glad it paid off.
Mate, you have no idea how happy I was when I saw that bank cut out. I was absolutely dreading having to take the carbs apart again.. with no idea of hear might be wrong!!
You Sir are a legend. Your perseverance is an inspiration to all that believe in the ‘process of elimination’.
And also a younger George Clooney look-alike!
I've never clicked so fast.
Same here. I always feel happy when I see an upload from Jack.
The Tension is killing me… surely you mean the High Tension…😂😂😂😂
I’m here all week folks!!
Well done Jack!
Get your coat lol 🤣
So it wasn’t the ‘kin lead then 🤣😂🤣😂
The folks that thumbed this video down have never owned a "vintage" car. The joy of persisting with a series of diagnoses to get to the core of issues impacting the performance of your car is hard to describe. Great to see you smiling pal! Car is looking, sounding and driving fantastic.
I called coils on the last video, I’m now doing my Clarkson esque smug face 😏
Well done Jack 👍🏻 the smile on your face says it all 😁
Same here i sent him a message on Instagram saying i had the same issue with an old mini with horizontally mounted cool cutting out on cornering tot one side...
Cool is coil of couse
@@pietderoos5875 couse is course of coil
That's a real eureka moment. SO so happy for you Jack :)
Now thats some amazing preliminary diagnosis,great job
Congratulations on your brilliant diagnosis. so glad you sorted out the problem.
Been watching you for months. Don’t know why I hadn’t subscribed. Just have. Congrats on finding the problem and please keep your videos coming. I’ve practically given up on watching telly. Your videos are both entertaining and very well edited.
Never would've thought it'd be the coil especially since they were new & Bosch.
"They don't make them like they used to" Never been more true. Congrats 👍
I remember changing points on my '50 Chevy and it wouldn't start. Bad condenser. Yeah, they do make them like they used to , only more frequently now.
A lot of Bosch stuff has gone down the toilet. Always had as much Bosch as possible in the past. Washer & dryer lasted 25yrs plus. Then, 2 Bosch leccy hedge trimmers, 2 yrs in & the eccentric mechanism in both that gives the blades their reciprocating action died. Bosch lawnmower cuts great, but the height adjuster is truly a POS after only 2 yrs. Jammed & the plastic handle broke.
New Bosch washing machine is as good as the old one (both need a few extra kettles of water due to this water saving rubbish all manufacturers are obsessed with - just stop Nestlé hogging it all), but the Condenser Tumble dryer is a POS.
The plastic door handle snapped & forums prove it's a common issue. The fluff filter doesn't work at all.
The condenser needs regular cleaning.
There's a hidden flap where access to a float sensor gets blocked too. No info in manuals, Bosch website etc. Frustrated RUclipsr highlighted it. Was on the verge of binning the dryer after 3 years till RUclipsr solved the problem, but it regularly needs an arm up the outlet & the condenser cleaning out. Bosch's solution on later models? A gasket round the filter? A friend's Hotpoint NEVER needs clearing (4 adults in rented house. Lots of use.
No. A 2nd filter AROUND the 1st filter
With a F##koff great big plastic moulding. Not a simple rectangular seal? 😅😂🤣 German engineering?
German planned obsolescence & German parts sales more like. The dual filter is their way of ensuring they don't get a class action law suit for "not fit for purpose", maybe? I avoid Bosch these days...
Well done ! Sorting out the problem,quite ingenious...honesty,analytical skills,hardwork, and not giving up pays off...
Brilliant Jack!! I can feel the relief as well...absolutely brilliant. I wish I had a drop of your patience and perseverance!
Fantastic!!!!
Logic: old coil,no bogging:new coil, bogging. You gave yourself a lot of hard times and worry by straying from the obvious but I am delighted for you all the same. Cheers
This was happening to me on my Alfa. I had replaced the coil a few years ago for a hot start issue, solved that, then had this annoying issue where the car would cut out going around corners. It ended up getting worse, and engine heat made it worse. I watched a 'Heidi and Franny' episode where they measured the leads on their Porsche's coil, and did that to mine. It was way out of tolerance on the primary leads. Then I discovered that THE AUTOPARTS STORE GAVE ME A NON ELECTRONIC IGNITION COIL. I looked up the tolerances of the original coil, and bought an MSD high output coil. Problem solved. The original coil was Bosch and NLA, and the 'next best thing' Bosch had was out of stock in all of the Alfa parts houses.
I love Heidi and Franny's videos. Ironically I discovered them when I watched a video about a classic model plane that Franny built!
You're a genius Jack. How in the world a right-hand turn would affect an ignition coil is beyond me. Can't wait to hear an explanation for that.
Well done mate, you stuck at it ,I feel relieved for you !!!👏👏👏👏
Great at last, you deserve a gold medal for your persistence and determination in fixing the problem
I bought a set of eight of those plug testers a few years ago from Halford's and still remain in their blister packs. I would never have considered a new coil to be at fault particularly of German manufacture. Obviously the makers have an issue with quality control. Glad to see you have finally solved the most irritating of problems.
Well the coil was working in straight line, so they've could have test it and turn out good, the heck knows why it malfunctioned to G forces 😄.
One of those marvellous DEEP JOY moments which makes working on an old car with problems so very rewarding when you suss out something by yourself. Been there, done that more than a few times and will never tire of that experience.
Nice one Jack.
Bosch ain't what they used to be. I did suspect that the coil might be faulty.
I want to see the video where you cut the coil open and really find the design flaw. It is great that you found the issue.
Well done Jack , i am running a carbed 208 GT4 .It’s nice to learn from others .So far so good !
Cool little car
The amount of energy you had at the start of the video shows how much of a relief solving a problem like this provides. You must be delighted!
YEEEEYYYY, i dont think i have ever been so happy to see a "fix" on youtube before :) so so pleased you have fixed that issue, onwards and upwards...fantastic, brilliant, amazing. :)
Reminds me of a time I had an old Peugeot diesel. It was always a first crank starter until one day a glow plug went down. Bought a new pack of plugs and installed them all and next morning, it was still rough. Top and tail was I assumed it to be an engine fault and left it for about a year. Until one day, I saw my arse and decided to have another look and wouldn't you know it? A faulty plug. It had obviously never warmed. One new plug later and it was back to behaving itself impeccably. Ironically, a Bosch part was my saviour in this case 😂.
Great video and a solid lesson for us all. Cheers, pal :)
Always a good feeling when you figure out a pesky problem like this one. Impressive diagnostic skills and perseverance!
I bought a 500 dollar mercedes 300se. it had a straight six that wouldnt run right untill higher rpms.... the k-jetronic injection system can be a problem to adjust without the proper tools. it ran great after it was adjusted properly. if not for all of the hassels I had gone through with a 77' 924 back in the day I would have walked away from an opportunity to actually profit on a car.... should have kept it. that was a nice car.
So pleased for you, as a serious petrolhead myself there is nothing better than hunting for problems, researching and actually in the end sorting them….. it really does take you on some highs and lows along the way! Lol….. keep the vids coming, really enjoy your content, a very natural presenter….. been watching from the early days 👍👍👍👍👍
Perseverance pays off! Liked this within 30 seconds of starting the vid, now seeing what the issue was.
My mentor once told me this:
"All carb problems are ignition, all ignition problems are carbs."
Ok, maybe more than once!
He didn't mean it literally but I had just learned the hard way that very thing. And I see that you have as well! Congrats! I know that more mayhem is to come but this was a great victory!!
Congrats, I admire your persistance !!!
Well done Jack. Your enthusiasm is amazing. Jack, last seen driving in clockwise circles!
Love the determination and meticulous and inventive ways you've gone about diagnosing this fault. Who would have thought. Hope you get something back from Heir Bosche 🙂
Congratulations!
Perseverance pays off.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Once you sort out the other bits, do not sell it!!
It would be impossible for anyone else to appreciate it as much as you.
I've been watching for a while and I know you've been struggling with this issue. Congratulations! So happy for you.
your spirit realy makes my day, when i am down or angry i go to your channel, it allways makes me smile again. Thanks
Well done Jack, well worth stopping work for!
Well done Jack.....your solution was exactly my suggestion posted on a few videos back....thought I may have had a name check.😉😉lol....
That was really satisfying to see! Well done!! :)
Great video, I work in diagnostics (not cars) and the feeling you get when you solve a tricky problem and find the little bugger that's the culprit is ace.
Awesome, great job. Regular coils are usually isolated by a coating of plastic and sometimes it can ground out, but it is strange that it only occurred on right turns. They make higher performance coils that are oil isolated, maybe something to consider in the future. Coils are usually just rated by size and resistance, so you can use many different kinds and experiment. I went away from Bosch blue's and use oil filled coils now, but I do sometimes use Lucas coils. It all comes from China mostly.
Think I am almost as happy as you are to see this fix! Well done Jack I love your perseverance, just like me and the watches I take on, I’m too damn stubborn to be beaten.
Great bit of fault finding!
Really chuffed for you. I've gotten rid of vehicles in the past due to issues like this. I admire your perseverance
Well done! As a professional auto mechanic in the USA, I can appreciate the feeling you get from a job well done. It's what keeps me in the profession. Part detective and part grease monkey. When in doubt...test! Again well done.
Bravo! I’m surprised you didn’t end the video by doing a series of right hand donuts while laughing maniacally!!
Lol
Bossed like a Bosch?
Nah..... bossed like a proper old school mechanic!!
Nice one Jack. I'm well made up for you on this, mate 👊👍
Woohooo!! Way to go Jack!! Nice job. Glad you saved the originals. Hopefully this is a new trend and you may have to rename the car if all goes well!!
So happy for you man !!!
I've had similar experiences over the years keeping my old XKEs working. Most recent success was saving the headlight on my Lotus last week. A previous owner had overtightened the retaining allen screws and broken the brackets so they wouldn't hold on the headlight cover. Replacement cover was about $1000 USD.
I pulled the cover and the broken plastic pieces and used the super glue and baking soda trick. I glued the cracked pieces together, then put a bead of super glue over the crack and sprinkled baking soda on it. That forms an instant solid which is very hard. Added some wire mesh screen for strength over the cracked area and likewise covered it with layers of super glue and baking soda. It ended up stronger than the surrounding original plastic.
A friend repaired a small leak on an air compressor several years ago with this method and it is still holding so it works on metal as well. A very useful, fast repair method to add into my old car repair tricks. If you haven't used it, try it out sometime when all is lost on an old/hard to find part.
Well done! That would've ben the last thing that I suspected. A coil is just two windings with a core and an oil bath for heat transfer. It's really rare to have an internal loose connection.
I'd wondered about some sort of loose component in the coil. Got to be the strangest fault I've ever come across. Could it be the movement of the oil somehow affecting the voltage generation. 🤷♂️
or low oil level causing a flash-over internally when the oil sloshes on a corner, - thats what was happening to mine.
See I'm thinking the oil sloshing around may be the cause.
Maybe a bit of swarf in the oil moves to the back of the coil on RH turns shorts out something?
Defo weird
If the coil is defective and affected by the RH turn, I should think the whole bank it powers would be affected, not just one or two cylinders.
@@wernerdanler2742 not all cylinders affected as this car uses a split ign. twin coil system
Im so pleased for you followed from your first influenzo video...your reaction made me smile well done 👍
If it was me, I'd put the 'iffy' Bosch coil back on and see if the issue returns. If it does return there is no question that it's the coil at fault rather than an iffy connection to/from the coil that got fixed when swapping coils...
Maybe Chinese made coil ??
@@kris8742 China has put a lander on Mars. It's not geography of origin that is the problem, it's cheap and shitty outsourcing for maximum profit.
@@MrShadownoise See Draper tools for confirmation of your assertion.
Calm (well reasonably) and systematic elimination of possible fault sources leads to success. Well done !
Really pleased you sorted that (and feeling a little smug as one of the guys saying it sounded electrical from the off 😇) . Brilliantly imaginative setup with the spark indicators and cameras - never would have thought of doing that and it was so clear 👍 The influenzo is getting better and better in your care 😊
I am so pleased for you. This is a pathetic paradigm but my ride on mower back fired on steep hills. We tried everything and it turned out to be the grass box interlock affected by the slope. The relief was amazing but nothing compared to sorting your Ferrari.
Forza Ferrari
It's because you dropped ( metaphorically speaking ) those 'lucky' pyjamas 😀 Well done Jack 👍
Had an experience with my 76' X1\9 which almost drove me crazy.....until I started to put together reasons why on rainy days it wouldn't start. Turned out if it was parked on an incline, a drop of outside water could drip onto the engine firewall insulation, which was a quilted blanket with a metallic finish on the engine side. This drop would short out the condenser lead which was a mm away from the metal surface. Solution. Put a bead of silicone on the lead which prevented the short. Your 308 is beautiful and have been watching the series. Hope one day it runs trouble fee! I'd love it in my garage even if it didn't run! 😁
Brilliant! I never manage to solve anything like this, rain leaks being the bane of my classic car existence.
That’s what garages are for
This is a great example of a calm approach supported by a logic, systemic thought process. Very well done ! Agree with the comments below that this channel is a step up from "parts swapping" channels.
Great job, mechanics always suspect new parts .
Really appreciate how determined this guy has been and how his patience has paid off.
Excellent work
Brilliant! I’m so happy for you! I don’t think there would have been a better reason for it not working than a brand new German part being to blame and an old original Italian part being the fix. Hilarious.
I have found Japanese parts better quality these days.
Soooo pleased you've found the problem, great channel - I've learned so much over the last couple of years, Thanks Jack.
Well done Jack. The question now needs to be asked ... why was the coil failing on lateral G's in one direction only?
I was thinking the same thing. Solving the fault is one thing, but I would want to know why it was happening in the first place.
Need to complete the ABA test ie the Bosch coil is A and the Marelli coil is B. Just be sure that is the coil and not the disturbance to the wires caused by changing the coil, that fixed the issue. Else there is a risk of the fault returning, when the wires settle back to their old positions.
Inside the coil is windings and at the factory when a spool of wire has ended a new spool is used and the wires are connected by way of a knot and if this comes undone then this fault will appear!
@@giuseppegiacomoni7058 Good info. I take it where the knot is made the insulation is removed? They do the same when making co-axial cable, the machine operators are constantly knotting wires together.
Are these kind of coils oil filled for insulation and cooling? I seem to recall someone saying years ago (unless i'm thinking of something else). If this is the case and the oil level was low, if when the oil moved to one side and leaves air i.e less insulation it could break down / track /arch. Just a thought. I could be totally wrong....
Fantastic news Jack. Well done. I was so badly willing the coil to fix your right turn misfire issue, and I was with the previous attempted fixes too.
What a triumph, and like you said, not what you would have imagined to be the issue when turning right at all.
The Influenzo sounds awesome.
Hope you can get some serious enjoyment from it now. By god do you deserve it 👌
Keep the great and interesting videos coming. They’re really enjoyable, and sometimes frustrating (but in a good way) 👍
The oil useage might be caused by unburnt fuel washing down the bores when the coil wasn't firing.
This could cause dilution/thinning out the oil which in turn could cause higher oil consumption.
As for Bosch coils, they were OEM fitment on older bmw's and older Volvo's of which i still own 1.
I have never ever had problems with a Bosch coil. So it must have been a freak part. BTW you can actually MEASURE if a coil is good or bad by measuring the resistance (Ohm's) on the primary and secondary windings. I bet that Bosch coil is actually OK but there might have been an issue with the 12V/ground connections to the coil.
Then explain the old Marelli coil working fine Fairly confident he swapped back & forth just to check it was the Bosch, in case it was a loose connection. Doubt he's too dim to not have checked.... 🤦
Congratulations on fixing it ahhhh.
I would be tempted to fit the coil to the other bank to see if the fault goes to left turns.
In theory, if you install the Bosch coil rotated by 180 degrees, you should be able to get it fail on left hand corners... might be a fun experiment!
Is it not easier to swap the leads to the coils, and see if other bank goes down when going right? Or does it not work like that ;)
@@richardwarren9112 yeah, that would kinda be a half proof of the problem, but getting it to fail on left hand bends would be a deeper proof...
or not a give a crap, and enjoy the car :)
Bloody Well Done Jack!!! Never in a Million Years would I think that this ongoing issue was due to The New Bosch Coil... I'm seriously over the Moon with this news and BTW... I absolutely Love the Christmas Lights that go above the Spark Plugs. Awesome work, Brilliant deduction! The World is Yours my friend and Congratulations Jack!
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Sending a massive American high five. Ow your face when you realised, like a kid getting the present he’s been wanting all year at Christmas.
Ow hell yeah keep going things come in 3s
You're happy, you're happy Jack, I'm ecstatic, I get to keep my left nut, because I previously bet it on the problem with "Influenzo" being electric. Years ago my Mum's old Mini had a "shorting coil", the engine "stuttered" on big bumps, took ages to find. Great result Jack, and great entertainment...
Fantastic! Great job figuring it out. It is so good when you can figure out and fix something. It makes you more positive when tackling the rest of the issues. But with this Italian mule I am sure the highs and lows will continue! 8^)
I feel like we all felt the excitement with you and the pain in the past. I’m sure we can all relate to situations like this and it’s such a joy to solve. If I were you I would have stayed up all night driving doing right hand turns. Lol. Great work and thanks for never giving up and documenting it for us.
With foot down hard!!... 😁
Shout out to all the people, me included, who said it was an electrical issue, not carb! 😂
So pleased for you. I’ve just had a similar problem with my Jaguar XJS V12 with a misfire on one bank of cylinders and it’s so satisfying when you find the issue which was also a faulty coil for me too. We done. 👍
What a journey. Congrats on the resolution.
Hahaha I loved your reaction because I've been there too and when you actually diagnose and fix the issue... it's like Christmas, your birthday and getting a big raise and bonus all at once. Well done!
EXACTLY that John!!
Are you going to dissect the faulty coil or get it looked at so we can see what the actual problem was??? Please say yes!!
Bravo, Jack. You did it. The car is running perfectly. It would be a shame to sell it since you will never get another, and the work you put into it can never be taken away as long as you own the car. Now the fun should be to use it through the years, and document all the positive experiences you have with it. It can even be pressed into service as a daily driver when necessary (as when you sell the Alfa and start looking for its replacement). If the oil additive cleans the rings, great. If it still burns oil...well let it...most Italian cars do at various points in their lives...and still they run and run and run. It is now time to enjoy your Ferrari ownership in a way you haven't.
I'm still somewhat skeptical that it was the coil, more likely a wiring connection issue in my opinion. Perhaps you could put it back in again and retest just to verify?
I'm thinking the oil inside sloshing around maybe causing the primary/secondry windings to overheat perhaps? Insufficient oil.
I'm sure the coil amplifier and coil would be a matched pair.
So fitting a replacement might not give the coil enough power for a full spark.
(Like 85% spark instead of 100%)
Strange how it wouldn't work on RH corners?
Do a tear down of the coil and find out what was wrong.
I still say just reinstall it and verify the results. If you tear it apart and don't find anything you'll never know.
I say touch nothing.. It works.. Drive and enjoy!!!
And if it is the coil, and some kind of sloshing problem, then it should be possible to reinstall, get it to fail on right turns as before, then rotate the coil 180 degrees and get it to fail on left turns. (assuming mounted vertically.)
Ha ha ha!!!!!! Oh my God!!!!! I've been feeling your pain but now I'm feeling your joy!!! Well done!! Cracking idea to use those plug indicators and film them!!! Outstanding! Go open a beer!
I was convinced it was still the carbs. There's no logic whatsoever to it cutting out on right turns only with a faulty coil. None whatsoever. And when the coil is new anyway???!! No way. But that was a stroke of genius, mate, well done indeed.
Come on Jack - I mean, this is hardly surprising is it? Everyone knows that German car parts are trash and old Italian stuff is really reliable. No... hang on... wait...
(I'd love to know exactly what is wrong with that new coil though, and huge congrats for fixing the issue)
Brilliant diagnosis. Worked it through step by step, eliminating causes. Well done!! 👍👍
Awesome. Been watching since you bought this in your pajamas all those lockdowns ago, well done mate. Love the ingenuity and dogged persistence that’s got your little Italian sport car back to rude health. I can’t believe how happy this has made us all . Best wishes from Spain
The solution for bogging down on right hand corners is to become a NASCAR race car driver and only turn left. Seriously though, I'm happy you found the problem- loved the victory laugh!
Genuinely great to see you buzzing with the car running s much better. I did comment on the previous video that I doubted it was fuel related but was good to see a logical diagnosis. It would be interesting to refit the Bosch coil, that may point to whether it is low tension wiring that has been disturbed. You have amazing patience with this damn car, well done.
Well done mate. I think this is the first time I have seen you have a great big smile on your face with the Influenzo. 🎉🎉🎉
Delighted for you, well done and thanks for sharing the journey. I had an Uncle who could only turn left when out in his car, he would have loved the old Influenzo
In 1979, I got told by the late Jeff Carter from Australia that the DCNF'S were not designed for transverse apps, so you have to adjust the float height working range ( static and drop) like Austin Rover eventually did in the R series Maestro 1600 twin carb. The Noid lights....great idea. Nice Sluth Work Holmes! The flat plane crank mean the Marelli distributer problems can be seem Pronto!
Brilliant, Number 27! (Applauding) Bravo! Congratulations!
I've heard in the past about new parts not working at all. That can happen to the best of them (mechanics).
That's why we need to learn how to test all new parts before installing.
Yet, I still don't know how to do that. Maybe that's something you could make a video about. I'm already subscribed because I look forward to see you getting Influenzo sorted & enjoying the drive. Two Thumbs Up!
Congrats in finding the culprit and wonderful to see your enthusiasm😊
Excellent!
In the world of old Corvettes I've heard "most carburettor problems are caused by the ignition" - appears to be true for Ferraris as well!
Brilliant news Jack! Well done. Top diagnosis and use of ingenuity. Better even than the microphones on Pepe!!
Great to see the 'proper' car back in video. (Hope your jeans don't have studs as you sat on your nearside wing and rear panel!) Really pleased you have got a result and found the problem, due to your positivity and determination. Great stuff again.
Great news Jack, glad all your hard work paid off! Hopefully you'll be able to enjoy it for the rest of Summer?
Your smile said it all! Well done!
You are definitely the man with the most patience!
Just goes to show that just because something is new it does not mean it's working as it should, when I was a appreciate I used to get this drilled into me all the time but it still got me once or twice.
Congratulations on finding the fault, it's always amazing when you get that problem finally figured out 👍