You Bet Your Life #60-33 Melinda Marx & Bobby Van ('Paper', May 25, 1961)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- This was Melinda's last appearance on YBYL. Though you'd never be able to tell from what's on screen, she wasn't very happy being pushed into the spotlight this way by her father (just as Groucho wasn't very happy being pushed into show business by his mother). Here she does a charming duet of "Put on a Happy Face" with Broadway song-and-dance star (and later game show host) Bobby Van.
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COUPLE #2: Melinda Marx / Bobby Van
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Episode identification and basic description based on "Tell 'em Groucho Sent You", © 1997 by Mark Petty. Used by permission. 
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Groucho must have been so proud of his talented daughter.
Bobby Van had the absolute sweetest smile in show business.
And what a sad demise he had... Too young to be gone.
Delightful. I had no idea Melinda Marx could sing and dance that well.
Nice to see a young couple dance together without tattoos, vulgar language, and costume malfunctions.
You got that right!
⬆️Speak for yourselves.
We LOVE F@$K Music.
In 1971 when I was 13, I wrote a letter to Bobby Van starring in No No Nanette. I told him my parents were taking me to see the show. He wrote back with a backstage pass. He was so nice. Over the next two years whenever we went to NY we stopped into see him. He was so nice to my parents and me. When he went back to California he was my pen pal. For a star he was a truly nice human being.
He and Elaine made a cute pair.
It's so nice to hear he was so kind to you. It's so sad that he was taken so young. Hopefully you saved your letters!
You probably helped keep him in reality.😊
The legendary Bobby Van.
Melinda answered almost any wise-crack from her dad with a chuckle and a smile, probably the best tactic.
Easiest way to get into show business. Never has to audition for a part like the rest of us who have no relatives to get us in the business. She gets the parts automatically.
@@ealswytheangelicrealms no. It gets a foot in the door and an audition, but if you don't have the skills, too bad. It doesn't by any means guarantee the part.
@@gemoftheocean I remember a joke that Groucho told about Melinda, was since the beach descriminated against Jewish people back them. He said "since she's half Jewish can she go in the water up to her knees?"
I’ve been on a YBYL marathon. What a great episode.
12:13 What a contrast to what passes as entertainment and talent today.
What a contrast to what passes for normal young ladys attire and mannerisms.
Cute episode ! Fun to watch Melinda & Bobby sing "Put on a Happy Face" from the musical comedy "Bye Bye Birdie". Thanks so much for uploading for us to enjoy ! CHEERS !! :-)
Groucho really loved music. His face lights up any time a contestant sings or plays an instrument
Melinda Marx looks just like my mother when she was young.
Wish my mom was here to see her!
Thanks for the video!!
I like how Bobby Van's eyes crinkle when he smiles. Seems like a nice guy.
He was. Best smile on the show biz...
I was born in 65. I love this stuff. There's nothing new under the sun anymore. My son is 17 and I think he has an old soul. He loves chatting and being with others, in real life not the internet 😏
You are blessed with your special son!
@@janepatterson6779 he is now 21 and has not changed at all. And thank you Jane
Groucho has his daughter on alot of the shows,you can tell she is a daddy's girl👸💕⭐🎥🎬
Easiest way to get into show business. Never has to audition for a part like the rest of us who have no relatives to get us in the business. She gets the parts automatically.
she was a pretty good singer & dancer...he was very good too.........she was a cutie,for sure!!!
I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS. GROUCHO MARX WAS AND IS AN ICON..AN AMERICAN TREASURE. HIS WAY OF LOOKING AT THE WORLD INFLUENCED EVERY COMEDIAN WHO CAME AFTER HIM. HES IRREPLACEABLE. WE WONT EVER SEE SOMEONE OF HIS STATURE AGAIN..
Absolutely agree
So was his genius brother HARPO
Omg, my sentimenfs exactly! Missing him right now.
Melinda is sooo cute and great talent
Remember watching this.. in 11th grade. Grew up to be a jazz musician.. as someone who has good ears I can testify that not only is Melinda what the girls I remember looking and acting like (nowhere to be seen today...so sorely missed)...but she sings her solo bit in perfect tune..it's not that easy a bridge to sail into coming up from below and she nailed it! Have backed several adult singers who couldn't sing this well..... This show and "What's My Line" have an intellect level higher than perhaps many countries today...especially, when Steve Allen was on the WML Panel.
@@joeambrose3260 Can't you come up with anything else? Maybe you were drunk when you typed that same comment over and over.
@@ApartmentKing66 No shit, Sherlock
Thanks for the bedtime story,worked great. I know you jazzers are high on nicknames. How about Gabber Griffin ? I think it's pretty catchy
@Jim Griffin - I noticed that in this she actually got the vibrato down. Not easy.
In an earlier episode Melinda Marx sang "My Friend the Witch Doctor", around eight or ten years old, remarkably at ease on stage, and again here her composure is quite impressive, as is is her graceful dancing. I have never heard of her so I gather she didn't pursue a career in show business, but certainly not for lack of talent.
No shit, Sherlock
@@ealswytheangelicrealms poor ickle you. Boo hoo. I hope you've stopped whining by now. You cut and pasted the same thing 4 times. Melinda is obviously talented. You're just jealous.
She's still an active entertainer at the age of 76 in 2022
@@robertklose2140I haven’t heard this before. Where did you find this and where can we see her today?
Delightful show. Thanks for posting this.. Melinda was 14 (about to turn 15 on 14 August).. Sad to say Bobby Van died of a brain tumor on 31 July 1980 at aged 51, leaving a wife and children. RIP.
She looks so much more mature than just 14 to me here!
I agree, but Melinda was born on 14 August 1946. She has been married to Jack Leung since 1985.
Sister Veronica It's unfortunate for Groucho fans (but, of course, fully up to Melinda) that she decided to retreat from the public eye more or less completely in the 1960s. I would love to hear her interviewed in a serious way about Groucho, but she's the only one of his three kids who's made a point of keeping silent, ironic considering that she was the best known to the public of his three kids, thanks to her many appearances on YBYL. I bought the DVD release of Groucho in a TV production of "The Mikado", despite having absolutely no interest in Gilbert and Sullivan whatsoever, solely because it included a brief audio interview with Melinda as a bonus (she had a small part in the show). This is almost the only example I'm aware of where Melinda talked about Groucho in public after the 1960s, so I had to hear it. Unfortunately, she doesn't say much of interest, focusing entirely on the production itself and talking very little about her father.
Great to see this show!
She and Elaine were about the same age
Beautiful girl and performance so glad Melinda won. Lovely piece of history with her Dad
Could Melinda be any cuter?!? Lovely voice too - !
She indeed was quite adorable !!
isn't it always the lousy darn kids like Melinda who don't want to sing or act who get in the business because they have a famous father who opens all the doors for them and the kids who really wanted to sing and act never get the opportunity because they are not related to anyone in the business. Lousy kids like Melinda who suck up all the jobs and take them away from kids like me who auditioned for years and never got a thing no matter how much I wanted it because I had no famous father to open the doors for me.
@@ealswytheangelicrealms face it. No one thought you had talent. I know someone who made it on Broadway, did national tours, and great well known regional theatre. No one in his family was in the business. Dad was a bus driver, mom a house wife. Never took a dance lesson in his life. What he had was TALENT. Singing, dancing, and acting. Melinda Marx had an open door for auditions, HOWEVER, having a foot in the door doesn't guarantee you get the part, because you still need TALENT.
Truly enjoyable. I’ve watch it a few times. Talent seems to run in the Marx family. Bobby , a happy entertainer .
Wonderful. : )
15m11s ... I love how Melinda knows how to work her Dad "Wait let me finish". A lot of contestants could have said that to him.
Many tried, few prevailed.
Melinda is so cute ❤
I just want to hug her ❤
This is wonderful to see! I have a wonderful Playbill from "No No Nanette" (1971) which I treasure as it's signed by Bobby Van and Ruby Keeler (among others) who starred in that long running Broadway musical hit. Mr. Van left us way to soon - thank you for posting!
Melinda definitely had that Marx face.
isn't it always the lousy darn kids who don't want to sing or act who get in the business because they have a famous father who opens all the doors for them and the kids who really wanted to sing and act never get the opportunity because they are not related to anyone in the business. Lousy kids like Melinda who suck up all the jobs and take them away from kids like me who auditioned for years and never got a thing no matter how much I wanted it because I had no famous father to open the doors for me.
@@ealswytheangelicrealms boo hoo
@@ealswytheangelicrealms You sound very bitter, but the old saying was true then as it is now, "It's not what you know, it's who you know that counts. This is also a biblical truth. Read the story of David and Goliath in I Samuel 17, particularly vss. 33 and 45; "And Saul said to David, You are not able to go against this Philistine to fight with him, for you are but a youth, and he has been a man of war from his youth...Then David said to the Philistine, You come to me with a sword and with a spear and with a javelin, but I come to you in the name of the LORD of Hosts, the God of the armys of Israel, whom you have defied. " In a nutshell, the point is that Goliath knew war, but David knew God. In addition, I encourage you to get over your bitterness. It is a sin and will keep a person out of heaven, be they sinner or saint. This is based on Christ's words found in Matthew 7:14,15
( part of the Sermon on the Mount and at the end of the Lord's prayer). "For if you forgive men their trespasses / sins (against you), your heavenly Father also will forgive you, but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will you Father forgive your trespasses." Friend, don't harbor bitterness in your heart against anyone, whether God or man, institution or industry. It will eat at you inside and will cause physical and mental problems.
That Alexander guy sounded so much like Rowan Atkinson in Rat Race.
The thumbnail isn't Bobby Van but Frankie Avalon. Anyway, loved the stroll down Memory Lane, given that Melinda and I attended Brentwood Elementary school together (3rd grade, teacher Mrs. Heatley). Later in life, I was close to her half-brother Arthur and his wife Lois, who were good friends with writer Robert Fisher. Small world.
The dance routine by Bobby and Melinda also reminded of Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore?
I'm, oddly enough, far more entertained by this quizz show than practically any serials. Groucho's really on point with his quips, he fares better than *scripted* scenes.
Well, the show was partly scripted but still yes, he does do better here than when he's expected to more conform to what was on the page, like a Hollywood movie.
I remember watching the documentary, The Unknown Marx brothers which related how in their vaudeville days the brothers would go crazy in the theatre, improvising wildly, running up and down the isles, etc. to paraphrase what one anonymous theatre goes later told (I think) Bill Marx- other vaudeville comedians of that era were a breath of fresh air, the Marx brothers were a hurricane.
This show wasn't so much about the game, which continuously changed during the run of the series, but was actually about the contestants, and their interaction with Groucho Marx. Although it can be said many of these folks were projecting a bit over the years, it's still, in my opinion, an amazing study in sociology.
A friend of mine, now deceased, said he went to a filming of YBYL. The crew filmed for more than an hour to get the half-hour show. The director allowed Groucho to ad-lib as much as he wanted, and they would trim it down in editing. They also took out any pauses, in case Groucho needed a moment to think of a funny quip. The magic of Hollywood.
She was a real cutie, wasn't she?
True. I can see the resemblance between her and Groucho too.
Her dad..Groucho tried to force her into a singing and dancing career..that Ms.Melinda Marx didn't want to do..despite what has been shown on this website..Ms.Marx hated performing...she tried to get away from her dad..but..he hired police and private detectives to find her and bring her home..so..she finally left home and..Ms.Melinda Marx has not been seen or heard from since.
Bern W She was in a few movies: www.imdb.com/name/nm0555651/?ref_=fn_nm_nm_1 Wikipedia says that she has been married three times.
@@kevins.butler3402 where do u read this
She was no Hope Emerson, but she indeed was fetching lass ! Her mother was actress Kay Marvis who was the ex-husband of "Bowery Boys" leader Leo Gorcey before she married Groucho. Sadly, her marriage to Groucho ended in divorce after six years. Grouch could be a difficult man to live with and he was divorced from all three of his wives.
Nice show and Melinda is still around but Bobby Van RIP !!!
Bobby Van was such an incredible talent, every bit as good as Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire. it's so sad that he died at such a young age.
Bobby Van was in the movie version of "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis" before it became a TV show, and he was married to Elaine Joyce who was on Match Game a lot (they were both on together on "Tattle Tales" which was a game show with celebrity couples hosted by Bert Convy) sadly Bobby Van Died of a Brain Tumor in the early 80s (Bert Convy also died of a Brain Tumor in the early 90s) Elaine Joyce later married Neil Simon (who just died recently).
I think it is so sweet how Groucho would have Melinda on the show to give her the thrilling experience.
Melinda Marx is just my favorite. That kid was amazing. I wonder how long they had to rehearse her numbers. She was really talented and I liked everything that she did through her career.
And what a cutie!
Melinda was very pretty
I heartily concur !!
-isn't it always the lousy darn kids who don't want to sing or act who get in the business because they have a famous father who opens all the doors for them and the kids who really wanted to sing and act never get the opportunity because they are not related to anyone in the business. Lousy kids like Melinda who suck up all the jobs and take them away from kids like me who auditioned for years and never got a thing no matter how much I wanted it because I had no famous father to open the doors for me.
@@ealswytheangelicrealms you are so full of hate and resentment. Gain some skills and you can be in the achievement category instead of the lousy loser section
@@5thdimension625 Melinda Marx’s only skills were that she had a famous father
@@ealswytheangelicrealms she’s not the reason you’re so miserable
You can see the love Grocho had for his daughter Melinda. I remember my parents watching Grocho when I was young, and I enjoyed this show myself. Grocho was one of the best comedians ever, and in movies with his brothers they were all hilarious. I couldn't imagine growing up in the era they did, and going into show business. At first I bet he had many of hungry day's trying to get in show business, but also lots of fun with his brothers. Thanks, John G.
Nice sentiment. Only one correction: His name is spelled "G r o U c h o'
Groucho was penniless in 1929 stock market crash 😢
My dad's first cousin was Bobby van my grandfather's sister's son my second cousin I met him got to see No No Nanette and a lot of people that you work with might guy he's real name go with my body band does anyone know what the real last name is anyway and the Marx Brothers they were always my favorite
Bobby van had it all was very talented and Melinda,sad about Bobby leaving us early he did not get to enjoy life with his child and wife.
Melinda Marx is so pretty and very talented! I wonder why she didn't pursue a career in shoe business?? She had a natural talent. Bobby Van was one of my favorite talents. Gone to soon.
Clearly Groucho was proud of his daughter.
Van’s dancing is similar to Dick Van Dyke. Singing is similar to.
I grew up same age as Melinda...I love her personality. She is talented, but basically a serious, intelligent person and I'm not surprised she didn't go into Hollywood.
The questions for Bobby and Melinda seemed relatively easy because they were all about fairly recent Oscar Awards . Tougher questions for the amount of money each question was worth should have been about the more obscure Oscar categories
Actually..Ms.Melinda Marx' last tv appearance was with her dad on ABC TV's"The Hollywood Palace"..after that she got away from her dad.
Nice to hear Groucho speak in German evry now and then.
Its Yiddish not German but it sounds very similar.
He spoke both in this episode.
Melinda is great! What a talented family!
Ha, I can skirt 'round the Facebook Vortex by coming here and watching Groucho! Thanks!
No idea what a Facebook Vortex is.
Melinda cute as a button and a nice voice. Groucho loved her.
Melinda was quite the trouper. I later read that she was often shaking with fear before each of her appearances, but you’d never know it.
Before cable TV and all the niche programming, there was such a great mix of old and new shows on certain channels that everybody was exposed to a variety of programming. Younger people these days never even have a chance to discover great old shows like this. Simple but very entertaining.
This was probably the second best thing that happened that week. The first being my birth.
Congrats. The medal's in the mail
Imagine, if you can, being Groucho's daughter.
Ladies and gentlemen,THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!!!! Even Fenneman gets in on the act with a nice joke or two. You also get a good intellectual stimulus. People claim that the American public wouldn't watch "stuff like this nowadays". But why are the American people,and many others,watching the old shows by the droves on cable and here on You Tube? Please answer that! It's because many folks are yearning and hungering for good,clean,entertaining,intellectual and-dare I say-Godly programming. Subjects like sex can be discussed in a wonderful fashion within these guidelines. Hey,I love and respect everyone out there,but our world and nation must return to Godly principles.Those Godly principles are like the direct object in a sentence,while wholesome shows and plays are like the indirect object. Before I close,listen to Keely Smith sing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Richard Rhoden
Joe Rhoden It's only older Americans who are wanting to watch these things because they grew up with this and not surprisingly miss it. Millennials for the most part want nothing to do with it.
Nowadays it's all Jimmy Kimmel-type stuff.
I am a millennial and I love the Marx brothers
"The Lower Alps he who Alps himself" Groucho Marx
Why the leap to "godliness"? To me, it's about a vanished America, an America that wasn't perfect, but always aspiring to be the best through and through - heart and soul - with room for all types of people - striving for greatness and goodness equally. (None of this hostile "U-S-A" or MAGA crap.). This show reflects a level of civil society and a culture that's all but dead, and that's why it attracts audiences even today.
Did he just call that guy a schnorer?
hooray for captain spaulding
no if he came from a family of Schnorrer.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnorrer
A Schnorer is a free loader.
I wonder if there was any consideration of making her a mousekateer. She certainly looked, sang and danced the part. And very well spoken. I am aware though that she wasn't crazy about performing, so perhaps that was not explored.
According to her brother, Arthur, Melinda had mental issues later which he attributed to her (or Groucho's) inability to connect with her dad. She's a sweetheart here.
You're confusing Melinda with Miriam.
You're right. Miriam was Groucho's eldest daughter born 19 May 1937. In two specials about the brothers she admits that she's a recovering alcoholic and has been sober many years. Those specials here on RUclips is "The One, the Only...Groucho" (1991), plus "The Unknown Marx Brothers" (1993)
Correction.Miriam was born 19 May 1927. She's now 89 years old. And she did reconcile with her father before his death.
"OCTO", if you think you have some news, please cite the source. Otherwise, it sounds like confusion or rumor or lies.
Bobby Van absolutely knew the meaning of "schnorrer". He was born Robert Stein and lived in NY! Groucho must have told him beforehand to play dumb so he could use the "all my relatives" line. 😆
A prince who had etiquette learning. But control of vanity & pride is a matter of spiritual grace. He pulled the $300.00 questions when little chance of knowledge the answers. And didn't seem to ask his partner. Program live action long gone but such attitudes still exist. The Groucho Marx Show was the first of it's kind but now mainly talk shows.
Those were the days.
Van had been in show business for 10 years by the time he was on this show yet is treated like a young new comer! He had already been a big hit on Broadway! Strange.
Melinda's relationship with her father deteriorated over the years, as evident on this show she would seem to get exasperated with his sarcasm and jokes, as did Groucho's wives. I think their relationship improved years later.
Wait a minute. Why did she win $50 by saying paper if Groucho said why don't use paper dishes? He gave it away!
A young Bobby Van! Anyone remember the show : Make Me Laugh?
@MikeTheYungGod I read and heard about "Make me laugh" but never saw an episode; do you remember "Fun Factory"? I currently know someone who looks like Bobby Van but younger in age.
Bobby Van had the krinkliest eyes.
Another great episode. Melinda was adorable such a wonderful young girl. She is 73 years old now 2020 and of all 3 children Groucho had. Melinda is the only one still alive. I believe this part with Bobby and Melinda was rigged. Because they got every question right. Melinda did not know the answers to any of the questions
Melinda Marx & Bobby Van starting at 9:02 ... The musical number starts at 11:19.
Wish the singing would have been longer. Great intonation.
Thanks for the new episode!
STRATMAN firdaus My pleasure. I'm tapped out-- no more episodes to post. Let's hope I can find some more some day!
Groucho Marx - You Bet Your Life That is sad news. I hope you will find some new episodes. Thanks to your efforts I have seen so many new episodes, I cannot thank you enough. By the way whatever happened to Melinda Marx? and what news of her?
STRATMAN firdaus She's kept herself pretty squarely out of the public eye since the late 1960s.
$15/month was alot. In 2024 money it's about $100/month
Groucho is about 70 and his daughter Melinda is 15.
"If this show isn't crooked , I don't know what is"
- Groucho was an honest Man 😂
Groucho made me want to smoke my first cigar, Sher
"It's a very small border." Smaller every day.
Wait a minute. Why did she win $50 by saying paper if Groucho said why don't use paper dishes? He gave it away!
It still boggles my mind that Mrs. Bobby Van wound up as a paramour of J,D, Salinger
So funny hearing the audience react to any physicality beyond the “norm”. Ohhhhh he/she’s tall/fat/bald/attractive.
Melinda Marx was very attractive
What a stately Prince
Welcome to the Shmo.
Thank you -- 2020 - Sacramento 💜
My first exposure to Bobby Van was when he hosted "Fun Factory" on NBC in '76.
@InvestorGuy66 I remember that show, I didn't see every episode though. . .ahhhhhh yes, Bobby Van!
Was the prince one of the Romanovs?
Yep I adore ed Melinda.
Hey mmmmm
Melinda seems a bit frayed. She was not the first victim of Groucho's textbook narcisism, a disorder for which there is no cure. For years people appealed, subtley or outright, toGroucho to cease his tedious interruptions, but he was unable to share his space and disliked being upstaged. As was necessary, he was thinking of what he must say rapid fire, and his repertoire was so vast. It was generally overwhelming and not always kind.
Don't be a hater, hater
@Laurna Leto, I’m not sure about Melinda but I agree with everything you’ve said about Groucho. I loved the show and the Marx Brothers movies but his constant interruptions got tired after a while. Comic genius? Yes, absolutely. Annoying at times? Also absolutely.
@@lukeheaton5336 Certainly a very funny and entertaining fellow. However, his over talking his guests was a bit unsettling for them.
I disagree with Marx on Israel and anti Islamists, anti Cmmunist, anti Capitalist Egyptian Nationalists Nasser, but Groucho was the funniest Jewish comedian ever. His end of life care by his vile wife, was sick how he was abused because he could not walk far or well. This era was the best until they killed Kennedy then all changed for the worse.
this one,is fixed!
I like Groucho but sometimes his silly remarks don’t give people a chance to speak, if I would have been that First Lady I would have walked off and said forget it, wonder how many times that happen? Could be they suffered fools gladly in them days.
He use to really get on my nerves to.
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I also heard that Melinda Marx was uncomfortable being pushed into doing appearances. She was talented but a reluctant performer, it seems. Off screen, Groucho wasn't exactly a nice guy if his ex-wives are to be believed. He could be cruel and insulting, and I wouldn't be surprised if he threw a few of his verbal darts at Melinda from time to time. .
Later in life Groucho admitted his constant sarcasm negatively impacted his marriages. It seems, from what I've read, his mother made it clear she really didn't like him that much, something that I suspect turned him into a cynic early on.