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Thanks for clearing that up never know exactly what its called around the world! Cheers

@@CazualHaze sorry i meant to say waffer board not waiver.

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Thank you too!

Hi @johnsmith-000 I did think about using bolts but they may not be made to a good enough tolerance so having height differences would make the probe non concentric. It would still work fine but there would be no chance of changing the probe without a recalibration. Cheers

You and me both! Planning the install now. Cheers

Thank you definitely worth the effort Cheers

Yep 150mm rock wool missed it off the video! Cheers

Yep all good if they are in front of you! You also need a bit of forward planning again not my strong point. Cheers

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Hi no I had planning permission and had to follow building regulations with calculations and all that palarva Cheers

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Hi yep 150mm rockwool missed it off the video. Cheers

Hi it’s 8m long x 5.6m wide and 3.4 high. That’s the outside dimensions Cheers

Thanks for the comment appreciated Cheers

I’m not sure the knife is in storage with most of my tools but I think it was D20 d12 and whatever the width comes out at. There are two of them to give the shaft some stability. Cheers

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Thanks, will do!

Many thanks it’s been a journey and a long way to go. Cheers and hello Wales one of my fa

Missed a bit Wales a lovely country spent many weeks there on holidays Cheers

@@CazualHaze Where about's do you go, I bet it's not where i'm from

The usual tourist places Llandudno to Betsy coed.

@@CazualHaze Those are nice towns I love Betws-y-coed and Llandudno is only about 50 mins away from me. I am in the North in Wrexham

Wow you are a lot further down the road than me. I think the biggest limitation of the x4 is the Z axis dovetail arrangement. I added a separate linear rail to widen and stiffen it. It has worked but I am not fully happy with it. The power drawbar has been brilliant, I have made a whole lot of tool holders but have not yet finished them. I will have around 20 when all is done. I am really interested in how you get on with the Masso controller, I am thinking of making a new mill and masso is currently my best choice as it seems to do all we are likely to use in terms of functionality. I also will build a cabinet when I get to move my machine to the new workshop. Thanks for the comment and if you can let me know your opinion on the masso. Cheers

@@CazualHaze I'd buy it again. Things that annoy me. The Wifi to transfer files from your P.C to Masso is sketchy at best. It fails all the time and I spend more time than I think is acceptable stuffing around rebooting etc to get it to transfer files and Large files take forever so it s better to remove the USB key and load the file onto it. Fortunately this is not a big deal but if you are tweaking a big file it gets pretty frustrating. I now just use the Masso network and that is quite stable but that too can be finicky to get running. The probing function is good. It would be nice if you could find center using outside dimensions. Z probing is limited by the accuracy of the probe, homing switch, tool setter. I use it for op1 but all other operations I do manually as I have about .05mm accuracy and that is not always good enough. Its pretty bullet proof but I have killed a couple of opto couplers and so moved to a different input. But despite a few mistakes on my part its solid. They do support it well. The forum will get you answers pretty quick and to the point. I have only given in twice and sort help and both times I was done inside 24 hrs. I'd say that's pretty good. I think the workflow and efficiency of using it is good. I'm sure a 10k controller is far better but we are making stuff in our shed. So long as it is not aggravating to use its good. Its not aggravating in any way really. I have had a couple of odd things happen with my Z zero and at the time I blamed the Masso but I had some issue with my tool setter a bit after and so I think it was more likely that or even more likely something I did. Hell for that matter every time something bizarre happens its almost always something I did. Mine is the G3 touch screen setup with 5 Axis capable and in hindsight that was a waste of money. I doubt I will ever do anything 5 axis. Fusion charge for all of that capability. Fusion is good but it costs me $720.00 per year to use it here in New Zealand and that is at about my limit to justify. If they put there prices up again I will find another software provider. I brought my Syil X4 from a guy who never got it going. Sadly he BS me and it never did go. So not only did I know nothing about CNC machining I had a mill that had to be stripped and rebuilt as I had no way to repair the controller/break out board. It was one hell of a steep learning curve. It took me 4 months to get it up and running. Mine only had a 3500 rpm spindle and to my mind its a bit of a mismatch for the machine. That said I have seen a video of a surprisingly heavy cut in steel with I guess 30-40mm face mill. Actually that might have been one of your videos? I don't regret the move to a spindle at all. Sure I have no torque but with carbide cutters it's amazing what you can do with small cutters. To have a draw bar would be nice but the tool setter actually gives me a lot of flexibility. Every cutter I fit into the collet gets measured no matter how I install the cutter and it all works out. In the beginning working out feeds and speeds I broke a lot of cutters. These days I wear them out and I'm cutting more and pushing them harder. I now watch the amps on the VFD and work out if I should go up or down. Its a balancing act between the available power and the rigidity of the machine and the complexity of the part although Fusion does have some tools to help. Learning all of this has been one hell of a challenge and at times just pure determination that got me through. There was a period of 6 months I guess where I just walked away and had a break when I got feed up with issues and inaccuracy. But I got stuck into it a few months ago and brought a new Z Closed loop stepper and installed a Z home switch as well as fully stripping the mill apart and putting it all back together as square as possible. Its now running very well. Its not absolutely accurate. I do have a tiny amount of backlash but it cuts near as dam round holes. I have designed a new bearing holder for the X,Y,Z axis balls screws with thrust bearings but for now I just want to get some use out of it.

@@toast47624 Thanks for the info I have an old laser cutter that’s got problems with the control board and I have lost the software dongle so I might have a go with a masso for this Cheers

@@toast47624 Thanks for this a lot of info here! From what you say it sounds like the Masso is stable and reliable excepting WI-FI! I feel your pain with Fusion it was never going to be free forever and once you buy into an ecosystem you tend to stick with it. Thats why I still have a crAPPLE phone! I think if I get a Masso then it would be the control board only so I can run cables to a control panel and a touchscreen but have all the sensors limits etc just run to the control board which I would mount in the electrical cabinet. The shorter the cables the better the noise immunity and so the reliability. If I am reading it right you changed your spindle to a high speed unit I guess one of the 14 -25k rpm jobs. I can say the drawbar has been worth the effort but it has been a lot of effort, hopefully people will learn from my mistakes! There seems very little on RUclips regarding first steps in cnc I too have broken many cutters and burned up lots of HSS cutters. I think one of my problems was the lack of rigidity in the column. I have added a separate linear slide to help stiffen it it works ok but I would prefer to lose the dovetails and put linear slides in. Having said that there is so much work involved it makes better sense to build a machine form scratch. I think with a quality set of linear bearings and leadscrews with hybrid steppers or even full servo drives we can get into the few microns accuracy even in a home shop. I am thinking of laser cutting a steel endoskeleton and filling it with epoxy granite to get away from the cost and difficulty of cast iron. Thanks for the info I hope to get more of this stuff done when the new workshop is finished and hello New Zealand! Cheers

@@CazualHaze It seems we have both come to the same conclusion. It's easier to build from scratch than to modify the X4. Despite all the money and the extreme amount of time I have poured into this mill I actually think its good value for money. I'd say its cost me 15k by now which is in reality stuff all and it produces some very nice parts. Its reliable and does nothing weird (anymore) and I trust it to machine combustion chambers in expensive chainsaw cylinders (now) etc. Yesterday I was marching 416 Stainless flat bar and with the right 4mm end mil it carved its way through that 6mm deep 1mm step over no worries producing a beautiful finish cut. The Spindle is an er25 18000rpm Chinese thing and it has been awesome. It will run at 2000rpm with pretty weak torque. So drilling 6mm holes in steal is a challenge. That said I now use carbide drill bits and spin then at 70m/min and use full retract to keep it cool and It drills holes fin. I can run a 16mm 2 flute indexed cutter in aluminum and it a bit of a beast with that and removes alloy at a very high rate. I also use the 16mm to face cut steel but I can only go about 1mm depth of cut. I too have moved all electronics to a cabinet. I have had no issues with interference. I did use shielded cables and grounded them.

Yep the building inspector made me add a beam 10x4 across the joists and braced to the slab. Clearly he thought they would sag also. Thanks for the comment always good advice from a professional. Cheers

You are right but I did check off camera. I have used over the years lots of sheets and can only recall one or two that were wrong. My local supplier stocks seconds that are not always very good, but they are cheap! Cheers

Thank you.

Me too! Still planning at the moment

Thanks lots to do that’s for sure. Cheers

If you’d seen any brick work I have done you’d know why I went down the timber path. I hope to get 25 years out of it so should see me into my dotage. Cheers

I get what you mean but the osb is buried in the walls. It’s also under a layer of breather membrane. But only time will tell, a hidden leak into a wall might cause major problems. Cheers

Good work sounds like a good shop / garage. I find work is like those puzzles where you slide squares around to make a picture, you have to think several steps ahead! Cheers

I hope so too!

Me too cheers

Glad you think so! Cheers

Correct Cheers

You can do it! New hip new you! Cheers

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Welcome aboard! Cheers Matthew

Thanks so much 😊

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Thank you very much! Looking forward to filling it with stuff lots of stuff. Cheers

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Hi Nathan, Yes I did need planning which was straightforward. The problems started with the square meterage as it’s over 30m2 it needed building regs that’s not straightforward or easy. Cheers

Hi Howard, Going to interesting to see how I get on filming with a tin roof. I am going to add a solar system it just makes sense environmentally and economically! Cheers

Yep just found that out! Cheers

It really is! Cheers

Garden rail is on my list of things to play with! Cheers

Glad you enjoyed it Cheers