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Looks robust af!

Any experience/opinions on Rolling Dub Trio?

I find that vintage shirts and jackets fit better because the sleeve length was shorter.

Great review! I own the 1942 and 1945 and I personally prefer the 1945 in Beige. But both are excellent

Thank you 🙏🙏 to both of you for what you're doing! I would like to see a video comparing or ranking companies like Y2, Double Helix, Fine Creek, Thedi, Buzz Rickson's, RMC, The Flat Head. Double Helix vs. Y2. Double Helix vs. RMC. Price, leather quality and stitching. Is the Shinki leather, the fit and the stitching so much better that you're willing to pay hundreds or thousand more for a jacket? I don't know? Maybe 9 of 10 RMC's leather jackets are very well made and with very high quality leathers, and only 6 of 10 Double Helix leather jackets are very well made and having high quality leathers? I don't know if the quality standards for the mid range Japanese companies are the same, or maybe some of them are very good and some are just okay? Is it worth it? I'm just asking for an update for what you've done before ( many years ago ), because there are new companies on the market. A second opinion ( Leather Jacket Jawn or Carl M. ) would be great. But whatever you both will do, I'll watch it, because you've both such nice personalities. I really appreciate both of your channels and love even more your lovely souls. I'm sorry for my English. Lot's of loving 😘😘❤❤🙏🙏

the way I see engineer boot is closer ww2 flight boots but without the shearling liner on the shaft, perhaps there is connection with people also wearing pilot skullcap and goggles and flight jacket and perhaps also breeches and flight boots post war to race cars and ride motorcycle. before they evolve more to fit motorcycle purpose like getting rid of the shearlings, or moving the v cut on the shaft to the side to not catching air or rain water when riding.

just my opinion, perhaps the MC jacket was or still is in some brands made as functional riding jacket, so the front is likely shorter than the kidney panel because you would wear it mostly in seating or even rather hunching forward position, however when worn half zipped while standing off the bike it may give you bolero double belts look, perhaps modern re creation which is probably marketed for people standing and posing with the jacket half zipped need a front drop to look nice without needing super high rise pants, however if you wear the jacket mostly unzipped, actually shorter front would look much nicer and the front hemline won't flare out as much as the jacket with a front drop. probably the single and double rider came from single and double breasted, and since instead of buttons the jacket has zipper then perhaps automatically it is called rider... maybe?

undoubtedly very cool jacket, the movie stills and promotional shots are really sell the jacket... I dislike the movie though. wearing only the leather shell of the jacket without the lining, will greatly change the behavior how the jacket looks on the wearer, because the jacket is more grippy on the inside and the leather much easier to crease and follow our movements better, so I think it makes the jacket to have a better camera expression following the various poses of Marlon Brando there, and much breathable to wear under the camera lights and hot weather, especially since he wore it with open pockets to let air in . However I think people will never be able to recreate his look because things look A LOT more coherent in black and white pictures.

I'd love to see you two define each leather jacket style and characteristics

I can't wait second part!

Downright wonderful: informative, conversational, you hit every mark. Thanks a million.

The zipper pull on the Brando jacket is a paper clip style used on the G1, not the Shott.

Very informative and useful content. Thank you!

This format is great! Jackets or boots. The more the better.

Jake is great, love his style, love his content. But I've gotta say this, I'm really not trying to be a dick but his hair looks a bit weird here. I can't put my finger on it because his hair is normally very cool.

Pt. 2 when?

My 2 black jackets are about 7 years old. Not vintage. But they give my hair MAJOR static. Never worn them bc of that. What do I do? Ppl tell me to condition it and static gone. Should I do that? What do I use? I don’t want any oily residue etc. What applicator do I use? I want to wear them so bad.

I’m trying to find a conditioner for 2 black leather jackets. Conducts too much static with my hair! I never knew I had to condition it! The store did not tell me. They are about 7 years old now! I’m nervous as to which brand to buy. I don’t want an oily residue and what applicator to use? My fingers will fall off if I apply like you are lol

This Jacket is exactly what I’m looking for! Where can I buy it?

Who was first? Who invented? Folks, it is clear as blue sky where from came inspiration for that "biker" look. >>>WW2, German Tank Commander, SS, Gestapo....<<< And that is reason why this style of Jacket look so menacing even today and sure as Hell it is not because Brando look dangerous in Wild One.

Great video fellas. A deep dive into my favorite topic with coffee on this Monday morning. Very informative and entertaining. Hope to see you two do more of these.

Just wanted to add I really appreciate these long form conversations. This is the best

Loving theese! Keep making great content Jake 👍🏻

Bro keep it up ! Love this style . I’m the guy u helped recently with that schott jacket . Thanks bro

Super fascinating and informative. I’ve subscribed to LeatherJacketJawn! Thank you

how do you compare chinos vs fatigue pant? I love fatigue pants because they are completely pocket bag less, and usually come with side adjuster tab, and the front patch pocket adds just enough detail to make it look different than common trousers

Just saw this video and I’m working on an order with Quan now!

Wow, a self hating Mexican that doesn’t want to wear cowboy boots.

Read AVANT magazine issue #5 "An Anthology of Western Wear". Cowboys largely came from Mexico and also think of Argentina gaucho as cowboys. The "American cowboy" is largely a made up image well after the need for real cowboys passed. We still have ranchers etc. But the real cowboys in America were the Buffalo Bill showmen nor the Gene Audrey singers. Black men also found freedom as cowboys. That being said, the dime store cowboy look does look a bit more of a costume than a style.

Any options on the Skoob Wander engineer?

They have an iconic look nowadays but their history is unclear: rail workers? motorcyclists? etc. I think the closest connection is in the name and that being railway engines. However, they tend to be full leather inside and out so you don't see as much plastic versions of them like you do with dress shoes or even Doc knock offs. It is interesting that the Sears 1940 version were taller and looked more like german army boots, it is said that the Sears ones were targeted more towards motorcycle. Apart from combat boots, the closest I have are Iron Rangers. I think I need to try a pair of Engineer boots to try as a jean boot. I got back into jeans as dress jeans (dark, clean, well fitting, no roll up; but now I also like a rustic look of plaid shirt and jeans. I just try to stay away from torn or light blue jeans.

Those lamps are sick

Use an ironing board and lay the jacket flat it's easier, also use a sponge to dab into the leather balsam it's quicker. I use Lincoln's leather balsam for horse tack. U get a huge tub for around £12

I guess boots are something they can wear e'en if neigh copying any your other style? I find they don't care about my other style advice much, either, but I likely won't still getting any horse any time soon and can say that I likely prefer the texture the bison more than the exotics and other overall.

dont your boots get moulds? how do you treat them?

Horse hide is more expensive because of the availability. Cow hide is less expensive because of the supply. The more expensive leather becomes coveted as a luxury item. Does horse hide perform any better? Is it more durable? Is it better than any other leather in any way?

I think you should better define your usage of overrated. I think I've figured out that you're more or less saying "overhyped" or using a more literal sense of the word overrated. IE people overlooking drawbacks and overstating the positives and then applying that to all horsehide across the board. The "rating" that people give it is higher due to misleading factors. At least, that's how I've come to interpret your usage. Same with your sentiments on CXL. To me and many others, overrated has a very negative connotation, and I think that people tend to assume that when someone says something is overrated that it means it's bad and not worth your time. Which is obviously not what you're saying here.

I got grant stone brass in black waxy deer and it’s just a 10/10 to me it’s wildly good

Few comments/notes additions 1. I have a horsehide chromexcel adjacent pair of service boots. There is a very mild bit of the horsehide grain. 2. My Motors do indeed have a lot of creasing 3. The shinki hiking boots from Sagara are also notable. The grain is very noticeable 4. My shinki Chelseas have interesting grain. The way they are I don't think they will develop so much rolls.

Would you happen to know which horsehide does the flat head use? I just got mine in Harajuku a few weeks ago and I'm curious!

Since most of the horsehide is obtained from Europe where folks are eating horse, it's going to be a matter of supply and demand---nowadays there are fewer folks consuming horse. Did you mention that it's harder to break in than bovine leather? (I think you did.) I have a pair of horsehide double soled shoes (from JL) and it will take 140 years before they break in (if I wore them everyday) but the skeletal-esque grain is astonishingly beautiful (and worth the stiffness). Great video. (Also, I'd warmly recommend the Mail's Black Creme Polish for the Attractions. I've the same boots and you're right that they are tea-coring through faster than others. This is superb polish, lightly applied, brush them like you're in love.)

There's a big difference between horsehide vs horsebutt/horserump. Hide can crease ugly like CXL, butt/rump will roll

I've seen some people recommend not to use trees in horsebutt boots to encourage rolls. Not sure about that, any thoughts Jake? Do you use trees to keep your boots in shape or do you like heavier rolls and more pronounced toe spring to develop?

The tannage and quality of the leather is most important, closely followed by boot design. What animal the leather came from is down the list. At least that's my barely educated opinion.

Just can repeat myself . . . love to listen when you give a lecture on a special topic! 👍🏻😊

My answer to your question is a resounding YES. And not just for boots.

The problem I have with horsehide is that its hard to justify from a humaine perspective. I have no problem with regular cow leather since we eat beef and its just the biproduct of that industry.

I have thick cowhide Wesco Boss Engineer boots. No significant creases or rolls after years of wear. None of that tea coring either. It’s a boot that commands respect.

I was glad to see you show badalassi carlo leather. I'm currently in the process of making a pair of pull-on boots, very similar to engineers but without straps, and I'm using cognac badalassi carlo minerva leather. I'm doing a rough-out vamp and counter cover though

"Horsehide is overrated." Proceeds to order three more boots in horsehide. 😅