Good video, i wear Haynes t-shirts and levis selvedge jeans with red wing or Wolverine 1000 mile boots most of the time and i dont tuck in my shirts cause they always get un tucked, i wear what i can afford. Good advice but not everyone knows where to buy the awesome vintage clothes and not everyone can afford it, but you look good bro, I really enjoy your videos.
I completely agree with the idea that many heritage and amekaji enthusiasts arent dressing well. If you take a look at the raw denim subreddit, or GYW subreddit, or even fedora lounge, youll see that many users are only obsessed with that one piece of their outfit and seem to disregard the rest. And they still may not have a proper fit on that one item either. But I think it’s valid for people to appreciate the craftsmanship, the details, and the aging of just their boots/denim/leather jacket/etc. And when those people who are only interested in the pieces themselves become interested in all categories: denim, boots, leather jackets, etc, which is likely because they do share similar characteristics, they automatically become heritage enthusiasts without ever having appreciated the style as a whole. Do they look great in their full iron heart or other brands? Probably not. But do they really think they do? Or are they doing this because they just like the pieces themselves? Like you said, if you care about style as a whole, you put that conscious effort into thinking about what you wear and evolving how you wear it. Most likely, some subset of those individuals would argue they are dressed well, and another subset may just say they like the clothes. It is too expensive and unrecognizable of a hobby for me to think they all want clout.
Yes I agree on basically every point you made. I do think it's OK to just like the items for the quality for the most part, but they are still clothes and if you're buying nice clothes rather than other nice things then you must care at least somewhat about style. But yes I think a lot of guys get into heritage without having thought all that deeply about style beforehand
While I disagree with some of the individual points, e.g. OCBD untucked/casualness, I agree with the overall thesis. Dave from the vintage future has talked about a lot of this in some of his car talk videos especially about making mistakes and willingness to take chances in order to learn. Great video.
I'd love to own some Iron Heart. Their 21 oz jeans are amazing and so are their flannels. Their Wrangler-inspired IH-122 jacket is also pretty sick! With that being said, I definitely noticed some people on IG whose ootd is basically: 👟: Probably Moc Toes (but the IH Generals would actually wear IH sneakers) 🧦: IH socks 👖: IH 666 👕: IH UHF flannel, chef kiss 🧥: IH Type 3 🧢: Filson (finally! something different!) Please don't get it wrong! There is absolutely no hate! In fact, I love their style! I would probably do full IH if I had the fund, but definitely not every time. With that being said, you won't see Momotaro guys or PBJ or Samurai mfs do the same thing! These guys have multiple sets of IH outfit like Tears of The Kingdom! With this level of loyalty, you're easily missing out on other pieces!
tuck your button up shirts fellas it's a great look and falls coming up so it's a great time to try it out. And love the fit AVS great colors clean and simple 😎
Wow🎉 great great video !!!!! Very thought provoking for those of us on style journeys!! Really enjoyed listening to you talk about your journey. And the topic I agree with you as I experienced this too.
You should do a video on your custom fedora hat 🤠 🎩 and your other fedoras and if they are custom and where you got them and information on them and stuff .
Dislike when you talk negatively about street style & streetwear brands, when actually you would benefit from learning a bit about that culture and integrating some streetwear elements to your style on occasion to change it up.
Agree. Offering advice in the context of his hyper specific niche is fine. But disparaging and dismissing other styles and brands with zero knowledge of their history or significance is weird.
Where did I say anything negative about streetwear brands in this video? I am simply talking about specific things people do that I don't think look good. Nothing is specifically about streetwear
I spend a decent amount of time talking negatively about Freewheelers and fans of that brand which I count myself as part of. This video is also built off of my own mistakes from the past. Honestly I have no idea where your comment is coming from.
I'm not personally a big streetwear fan either. I'm just curious why they think I'm specifically hating on streetwear. I'm mostly speaking about guys who do "rugged style" and urban lumberjack and certain late 90s into mid 2000s menswear stuff that I'm not a fan of.
At what point does vintage style become cosplay? It starts to look like a costume. At what point does it look so effortful or contrived that it becomes less stylish as a result?
Personally I feel like it's when people try to exactly copy the hair and starting using slang from back then. To me, that's too far. That said, I don't really care if people think I've gone too far. I like what I wear and I'm comfortable with it.
@@almostvintagestyleto me, the best part about vintage styles are that they tend to be roomier! As you say, they're just more comfortable to wear without looking sloppy.
Style is so subjective its hard to say what does and doesn't look good broadly speaking. Some people want to look like a time traveler from the 1950s or the 2050s, and thats fine. Personally i just want well made comfortable clothes that allow me to blend into the background
I actually don't think style is subjective at all. Having a correct proportion is super important. The basic rule is you always wanna look taller than you actually are and you wanna keep your head size smaller. I don't wanna talk shit, but you look so much better when you are wearing some kind of jacket vs. just wearing a shirt.
@@almostvintagestyle You can always play with proportion a bit. I don't think you have a "gigantic" head. I think your stubbornness to cuff your arms is hurting with proportion a bit(respect to that, because you really want to pursue that vintage aesthetic). I for example have really big legs and that forces me to size up. Now I have to a really loose fitting waist with fitted legs; cool thing is, I also like bespoke belts.
@@Stridewise I gotcha. Flannel is a very casual shirt so I don’t mind the tails out & unbuttoned. Other than that, I hate seeing shirts unbuttoned and untucked. There’s a reason it has buttons. I have the same rule but with leather jackets. Leather jackets are the only jacket I feel u can go unzipped. Every other jacket and coat should be zipped and buttoned. Just my 2 cents.
i want jake drinking scotch on patreon in the style of the less diplomatic videos that i saw in the past chuck them behind a paywall im sure every creator would love to get the kind of unvarnished takes you used to do. its funny how much people get upset by concrete opinions but they are the ones that have a lot of utility. I wouldnt be the only person that would have pointed out that you're pretty much responsible for everyone wanting badalassi carlo!
maybe when someone start to do some effort about their look/ style they use reference and stay as true as possible to that reference or getting into some genre so faithfully as if there is a hard law about anything. so they end up looking costumey or unnatural , because their mental eyes and reality is not honestly in tune, in their mental eyes they think they look "cool" and if someone say anything then they quickly assume those people just don't understand their niche style. however with time your eyes become more honest with yourself and you will add or take away elements and make your style truly your own not necessarily bound by any law.
@@almostvintagestyle sometime visiting a forum or community of aficionados of leather jackets or denim heads daily is a bad influence, when you step away and totally neutralized your view you will see how far extreme you're heading into with the community support, not so different than being mislead in a cult environment hahah.
Hm we’re oddly similar.. except that proportions. My legs are long. Short torso, long arms.. I’m 5’9, and have a 6’1 wingspan. I don’t like breaks in my pants either. Tapers pants also look horrible on me. Because my thighs are bigger than my waist
13:51 I’m a Montana peak guy.. but I want a felt open crown hat to shape my own hat for this fall/winter. And I have a extra large head so, that’s the hardest part for me
Only time I tuck in a shirt was when I had to wear a suit , other than that none of my shirt of any kind are tucked in , tucked in does not look good on me it's weird..
@almostvintagestyle nah I just never like the feel of having my shirt tucked , so I do make sure I buy any shirt that can or suppose to worn out of the pants
but a lot of people have a "look" that isn't STYLISH at all: running sneakers; "dad" jeans and t-shirt with some dumb print has been a thing for too many years now [three decades at least?]... and the hoodie with basketball shorts and slides???
I'm neigh sure how we can tweak the language a bit or if such clarification is needed for those whom might watch whole vid like this, but I also don't just get rid of all things in the closet for some new look because plenty of times when those meh items should still be worn around the house or whatever for chores or heat wave. Have said before, etc. But also buy WHOLE new wardrobe and all these accessories that may neigh get used as much as expected or possible will hit the wallet and may needs be done incrementally also.
Oh, I spent many years with people annoyed that I tucked in my shirts for some reason. Yes, it's tucked in... for a couple reasons... I don't care how that makes you feel.
Some t-shirts are too short to tuck in or may have a pattern where it will look wrong, but if I'm layering, then I want it tucked almost always for sure.
I think what happened with the Oxford shirts is that Hollywood wanted to show disheveled guys in the 80s or whatever, and they were supposed to be up all night studying or partying, right? So then it became a look but, like you said, works less good than the lazy flannel look where those guys intentionally don't tuck in their shirts because they don't wanna be mistaken for college guys or office guys or something? But students get to be more disheveled in real life traditionally than office guys since about the 60s or whatever? So chicken or egg?
i really can't get behind the whole 'tuck in your shirt thing' ..guys like you and I are way too short for that.. makes us look even shorter.. sometimes defining where you torso ends and legs start.. just makes for a ..dorky look... now, I don't wear all these button downs with flaps/tails,, which i know is pretty customary to tuck in shirts like that.. i mostly just do T-shirts, tank tops, sweaters.. or get a shirt that is short enough it can't even be tucked in.., then you'll get around having to deal with the shirt tuck 'poof' around the belt area.. i hate that effect.. tucked shirts make it look like you're wearing a fanny pack under your pants or draw attention to your a$s,, its just dorky imo..
Your channel is sooooo underrated
Thanks! I appreciate it
Haven’t watched the video but 100% agree about the title
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Great topic, great title, and a pretty much universal phenomenon I've never seen discussed before. Great work
Yeah it's something I'm surprised I don't see people talk about more
Good video, i wear Haynes t-shirts and levis selvedge jeans with red wing or Wolverine 1000 mile boots most of the time and i dont tuck in my shirts cause they always get un tucked, i wear what i can afford. Good advice but not everyone knows where to buy the awesome vintage clothes and not everyone can afford it, but you look good bro, I really enjoy your videos.
Thanks! And I appreciate the different perspective. Vintage is indeed difficult. The good thing is it can be affordable, but not always easy
I completely agree with the idea that many heritage and amekaji enthusiasts arent dressing well. If you take a look at the raw denim subreddit, or GYW subreddit, or even fedora lounge, youll see that many users are only obsessed with that one piece of their outfit and seem to disregard the rest. And they still may not have a proper fit on that one item either.
But I think it’s valid for people to appreciate the craftsmanship, the details, and the aging of just their boots/denim/leather jacket/etc. And when those people who are only interested in the pieces themselves become interested in all categories: denim, boots, leather jackets, etc, which is likely because they do share similar characteristics, they automatically become heritage enthusiasts without ever having appreciated the style as a whole.
Do they look great in their full iron heart or other brands? Probably not. But do they really think they do? Or are they doing this because they just like the pieces themselves? Like you said, if you care about style as a whole, you put that conscious effort into thinking about what you wear and evolving how you wear it. Most likely, some subset of those individuals would argue they are dressed well, and another subset may just say they like the clothes. It is too expensive and unrecognizable of a hobby for me to think they all want clout.
Yes I agree on basically every point you made. I do think it's OK to just like the items for the quality for the most part, but they are still clothes and if you're buying nice clothes rather than other nice things then you must care at least somewhat about style. But yes I think a lot of guys get into heritage without having thought all that deeply about style beforehand
I really like your cerebral approach to men’s dress. Subbed.
Thank you! I appreciate that 🙏
While I disagree with some of the individual points, e.g. OCBD untucked/casualness, I agree with the overall thesis. Dave from the vintage future has talked about a lot of this in some of his car talk videos especially about making mistakes and willingness to take chances in order to learn. Great video.
Thanks! And yes I love Dave he's awesome. Of course it's fine to disagree on certain smaller points like that 👍
I'd love to own some Iron Heart. Their 21 oz jeans are amazing and so are their flannels. Their Wrangler-inspired IH-122 jacket is also pretty sick! With that being said, I definitely noticed some people on IG whose ootd is basically:
👟: Probably Moc Toes (but the IH Generals would actually wear IH sneakers)
🧦: IH socks
👖: IH 666
👕: IH UHF flannel, chef kiss
🧥: IH Type 3
🧢: Filson (finally! something different!)
Please don't get it wrong! There is absolutely no hate! In fact, I love their style! I would probably do full IH if I had the fund, but definitely not every time. With that being said, you won't see Momotaro guys or PBJ or Samurai mfs do the same thing! These guys have multiple sets of IH outfit like Tears of The Kingdom! With this level of loyalty, you're easily missing out on other pieces!
Yeah I'm not saying IH doesn't make solid stuff. I've owned a couple of their flannels and they are nice
tuck your button up shirts fellas it's a great look and falls coming up so it's a great time to try it out. And love the fit AVS great colors clean and simple 😎
Thank you!
It all comes down to genetics. If the guy has good genetics, he can wear Amazon Essentials or Banana Republic clothing and still be top dog.
Genetics and the work to stay in shape as well, but yes
everything you said made so much sense
Glad to hear that!
Wow🎉 great great video !!!!! Very thought provoking for those of us on style journeys!! Really enjoyed listening to you talk about your journey. And the topic I agree with you as I experienced this too.
Thanks so much! The journey remains quite interesting
I like your take on style.
Thanks! I appreciate it
Drop the vintage baseball cap/headwear video 🙏🏽
Great video, keep it coming.
Thanks, will do!
You have 100% true :)
Shirt (flannel, denim, chambray, ocbd etc.), polo shirt, henley, t shirt always look better tuck in pants. Better proportion :)
Yes exactly. The proportions are much better
You should do a video on your custom fedora hat 🤠 🎩 and your other fedoras and if they are custom and where you got them and information on them and stuff .
Yes I want to do a more specific Fedora video soon
It's a great vid and so true!!
Thank you very much!
Dislike when you talk negatively about street style & streetwear brands, when actually you would benefit from learning a bit about that culture and integrating some streetwear elements to your style on occasion to change it up.
Agree. Offering advice in the context of his hyper specific niche is fine. But disparaging and dismissing other styles and brands with zero knowledge of their history or significance is weird.
Where did I say anything negative about streetwear brands in this video? I am simply talking about specific things people do that I don't think look good. Nothing is specifically about streetwear
I spend a decent amount of time talking negatively about Freewheelers and fans of that brand which I count myself as part of. This video is also built off of my own mistakes from the past. Honestly I have no idea where your comment is coming from.
I’ll say it. Street wear sux. Bring on the hate.
I'm not personally a big streetwear fan either. I'm just curious why they think I'm specifically hating on streetwear. I'm mostly speaking about guys who do "rugged style" and urban lumberjack and certain late 90s into mid 2000s menswear stuff that I'm not a fan of.
At what point does vintage style become cosplay? It starts to look like a costume. At what point does it look so effortful or contrived that it becomes less stylish as a result?
Personally I feel like it's when people try to exactly copy the hair and starting using slang from back then. To me, that's too far. That said, I don't really care if people think I've gone too far. I like what I wear and I'm comfortable with it.
@@almostvintagestyleto me, the best part about vintage styles are that they tend to be roomier! As you say, they're just more comfortable to wear without looking sloppy.
Yes exactly. That's something I really love. I can wear my clothing all day comfortably
Style is so subjective its hard to say what does and doesn't look good broadly speaking. Some people want to look like a time traveler from the 1950s or the 2050s, and thats fine. Personally i just want well made comfortable clothes that allow me to blend into the background
Yup that's totally fair
I actually don't think style is subjective at all. Having a correct proportion is super important. The basic rule is you always wanna look taller than you actually are and you wanna keep your head size smaller. I don't wanna talk shit, but you look so much better when you are wearing some kind of jacket vs. just wearing a shirt.
Yes I agree. I do believe that fit is objective. Also I agree with you. There's not much I can do about it though because my head is gigantic.
Also I'm curious why you think I look worse without a jacket. I don't completely agree, although I sort of think I see what you mean
@@almostvintagestyle You can always play with proportion a bit. I don't think you have a "gigantic" head. I think your stubbornness to cuff your arms is hurting with proportion a bit(respect to that, because you really want to pursue that vintage aesthetic). I for example have really big legs and that forces me to size up. Now I have to a really loose fitting waist with fitted legs; cool thing is, I also like bespoke belts.
Yes thats fair. I have started cuffing some of the shirts less. I'm still learning about that so I have to still get the balance correct there
There is no peak style, just evolving style.
A lot of it is confidence in pulling off a new style.
Example: I've tried selvedge slim fit jeans rolled up and I look ridiculous. It's not my build either. I just can't dig it on me and it shows.
Yeah you'd want to try a different silhouette
The only thing I wear untucked are flannels. Everything else gets tucked.
I started tucking this year and it's very exciting but I still can't tuck into 5 pocket pants like jeans! Maybe one day
@@Stridewise I gotcha. Flannel is a very casual shirt so I don’t mind the tails out & unbuttoned. Other than that, I hate seeing shirts unbuttoned and untucked. There’s a reason it has buttons. I have the same rule but with leather jackets. Leather jackets are the only jacket I feel u can go unzipped. Every other jacket and coat should be zipped and buttoned. Just my 2 cents.
Yup that's fair. I don't even wear flannels all that often in fairness
I’m right in that looking worse part of the journey 😅
i want jake drinking scotch on patreon in the style of the less diplomatic videos that i saw in the past chuck them behind a paywall im sure every creator would love to get the kind of unvarnished takes you used to do. its funny how much people get upset by concrete opinions but they are the ones that have a lot of utility. I wouldnt be the only person that would have pointed out that you're pretty much responsible for everyone wanting badalassi carlo!
maybe when someone start to do some effort about their look/ style they use reference and stay as true as possible to that reference or getting into some genre so faithfully as if there is a hard law about anything. so they end up looking costumey or unnatural , because their mental eyes and reality is not honestly in tune, in their mental eyes they think they look "cool" and if someone say anything then they quickly assume those people just don't understand their niche style. however with time your eyes become more honest with yourself and you will add or take away elements and make your style truly your own not necessarily bound by any law.
Yes thats a good point. A lot of people, myself included tried to replicate looks rather than have my own style at first
@@almostvintagestyle sometime visiting a forum or community of aficionados of leather jackets or denim heads daily is a bad influence, when you step away and totally neutralized your view you will see how far extreme you're heading into with the community support, not so different than being mislead in a cult environment hahah.
There are plenty of people that can pull off an OCBD untucked and look amazing.
Totally fine to agree to disagree👍
my opinion about shirts tuc in or out ,,, if wear a jacket tuc in ,,, if you don t wear jacket short shirt and out ,,
That's how I used to think about it, though now I just always tuck
Def do an interview with @CourtneyRyan yall will have fun...
Not sure who that is sorry
that belt is nice. Would wear.
Thanks! I appreciate it
Hm we’re oddly similar.. except that proportions. My legs are long. Short torso, long arms.. I’m 5’9, and have a 6’1 wingspan. I don’t like breaks in my pants either. Tapers pants also look horrible on me. Because my thighs are bigger than my waist
Yeah big thighs are difficult
13:51 I’m a Montana peak guy.. but I want a felt open crown hat to shape my own hat for this fall/winter. And I have a extra large head so, that’s the hardest part for me
Yeah my head is pretty big too. Makes it difficult
do you have any cafe racers?
I don't right now, but I used to have one
Only time I tuck in a shirt was when I had to wear a suit , other than that none of my shirt of any kind are tucked in , tucked in does not look good on me it's weird..
You probably just need higher rise trousers and jeans
@almostvintagestyle nah I just never like the feel of having my shirt tucked , so I do make sure I buy any shirt that can or suppose to worn out of the pants
So it's more of a comfort thing for you
@almostvintagestyle yes . Also if you can , can you do videos on boots you wore most with roles or creases
I think short guys it looks proper to tucked in shirts
It looks proper for everyone
Sunglasses video?
Yes I will definitely make that video within the next year
What do you think of rolling dub trio Jodhpur boots in horsebutt
I like rdt and those look fine, but I'm not a huge jodhpur fan so I'm probably not the best person to ask
How about the GRIFFIN ENGINEER II? Compare to the Wesco Mr Lou? Am looking for my first laceless boot. These are difficult to get as i live in the UK.
How tall are you
but a lot of people have a "look" that isn't STYLISH at all: running sneakers; "dad" jeans and t-shirt with some dumb print has been a thing for too many years now [three decades at least?]... and the hoodie with basketball shorts and slides???
I'm neigh sure how we can tweak the language a bit or if such clarification is needed for those whom might watch whole vid like this, but I also don't just get rid of all things in the closet for some new look because plenty of times when those meh items should still be worn around the house or whatever for chores or heat wave. Have said before, etc. But also buy WHOLE new wardrobe and all these accessories that may neigh get used as much as expected or possible will hit the wallet and may needs be done incrementally also.
Yes thats very true. That's why I said that in general, it's not good to be fully satisfied with your look. The dad look is pretty awful
Oh, I spent many years with people annoyed that I tucked in my shirts for some reason. Yes, it's tucked in... for a couple reasons... I don't care how that makes you feel.
Some t-shirts are too short to tuck in or may have a pattern where it will look wrong, but if I'm layering, then I want it tucked almost always for sure.
I think what happened with the Oxford shirts is that Hollywood wanted to show disheveled guys in the 80s or whatever, and they were supposed to be up all night studying or partying, right? So then it became a look but, like you said, works less good than the lazy flannel look where those guys intentionally don't tuck in their shirts because they don't wanna be mistaken for college guys or office guys or something? But students get to be more disheveled in real life traditionally than office guys since about the 60s or whatever? So chicken or egg?
i really can't get behind the whole 'tuck in your shirt thing' ..guys like you and I are way too short for that.. makes us look even shorter.. sometimes defining where you torso ends and legs start.. just makes for a ..dorky look... now, I don't wear all these button downs with flaps/tails,, which i know is pretty customary to tuck in shirts like that.. i mostly just do T-shirts, tank tops, sweaters.. or get a shirt that is short enough it can't even be tucked in.., then you'll get around having to deal with the shirt tuck 'poof' around the belt area.. i hate that effect.. tucked shirts make it look like you're wearing a fanny pack under your pants or draw attention to your a$s,, its just dorky imo..
That's the exact opposite of the truth. Now in fairness, sweaters usually aren't tucked as you pointed out.