If I recall correctly, the reason WW Link didn’t care for anything going on originally is because he is NOT a predestined hero such as Skywards or Time, he was literally just a kid/teen that had all those circumstances thrust upon him with his main goal being to save his sister. Plus he had to literally BUILD (collect first) the triforce of courage to become it’s bearer rather than being born with it
I think I heard someone say "Wind Waker's Link wasn't chosen by the gods, he forced them to choose him. Diving deep into the ocean to collect pieces of the Triforce of Courage and forging it back"
I mean he was a chosen hero. The king of hyrule chose him. And tasked him with gathering the power he needed go up against Ganon so he can save his sister and even after saving his sister he continues to go after Ganon .
More or less. OoT Link goes back to his time, leaving Adult Timeline with no hero to fight the revived Ganon, forcing the Goddess to flood Hyrule. Yes, he's still a reincarnation of the Hero's Spirit as Tetra is a reincarnation of the Goddess Hylia/Zelda, but beyond something all Links have in common, WW Link is the least connected to the Link line since his predecessor effectively doesn't exist in his timeline. He is, as you said, essentially just some kid dropped into stuff, having to man up and earn that Hero title.
@@ODINSWISHES When hearing the music of obataining the master sword the duh----nuh---nuh-----nuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Makes me feel great every time like undertale music
Technically, if you count it, Skyward Sword is actually super short, as the Goddess Sword evolves into the Master Sword. In a way, the Goddess Sword IS the Master Sword.
so actually during the Phantom Ganon fight in TOTK, the reason you weren’t killed in one hit is because there’s a hidden mechanic that keeps you from being one-shot if you’re at full health! doesn’t matter how many heart containers you have! pretty nice of them to include lol
Wait really??? Wow...I never even knew that...I just remembered from one of my older playthroughs that I survived with 5 hearts...now I feel like a complete idiot, but thanks for making that clear!
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I actually hated this mechanic because it's really inconsistent. It applies to almost every enemy, but some attacks go through this, and there really is no obvious indicator in any situation which attacks will ignore the 1HP barrier. Then, on the other hand, the game can be run minimal hearts and no armor to make it extremely easy to heal yourself to max and Link basically always has on his Focus Sash (for anyone who plays Pokemon) for 90%+ of encounters. I preferred the difficulty from BotW personally, but I do see how this makes the game more accessible. It just feels really bad to me when I barely survive an attack on that low HP cause I don't feel like I earned it ever, like I would in prior games. It just feels like a participation trophy to me
Fun fact: the only incarnation of Link that doesn't have a boomerang is Skyward Sword Link. Meanwhile, 5 out the 12 incarnations of Link lack the Master Sword, and it only appears in 8 out of 20 games. So I propose we make the boomerang the new iconic weapon of the series, given it's much more prominent role across the games.
14 incarnations, 13 when you commented. Dark Horse fucked up the translation in TLoZE, the whole reason they redid the timeline from HH was to establish OoX Link as separate from ALttP/LA Link. The Japanese version of the revised timeline says they're separate.
I like to highlight the fact in this video with the timer going, that by the time one enters the first dungeon in Twilight Princess, one could already be at the door to the boss for the first dungeon in Skyward Sword. Making Twilight Princess, indeed, the slowest intro of any Zelda game.
Good thing you didn't try to do this challenge in the Oracle games. Because you literally can't get the Master Sword in either of them without _finishing the other one first._ (It's a Linked Game bonus.)
It requires a lot more skill to get past the army, but if you head straight to Ganon at the beginning of TOTK, they just give you the master sword when it shows up, no stamina check required.
The Master Sword is the only weapon to *harm* a Full Triforce Ganon because any other weapon fails - even the God Killing Silver Arrows that can only harm him if you paralyze him in Phase 2 with... The Master Sword, and even then, you can only harm him with Spin Attacks unless you upgrade it into the Golden Sword, then spamming regular swings is more effective. In Ocarina of Time you can basically pick like any other weapon against Ganondorf in Tennis. The Biggoron Sword, the Megaton Hammer, a Bottle, and he can also be harmed by anything that has damage value when stunned with a Light Arrow. His Ganon Form is quite interesting. First: Every weapon - Including the Allmighty Biggoron Sword - only deals as much damage as the Kokiri Sword to any Regular enemy, the Master Sword is the Only Exception dealing Double Damage as the Kokiri Sword. And second: At some point he has either infinite durrability or he regenerates after each swipe, That's why you have to hit him with the Master Sword to bring him Down, and them to thrust this Blade of Exorcism into the Brain of that Beast. In Wind Waker the Master Sword is pretty much the only Weapon to harm Phantom Ganon even in a weakened state (and later the Light Arrows simply erradicate him) Same thing goes for Ganondorf. He is only vulnerable to the Master Sword while Light Arrows simply stun him. In Twilight Princess Ganondorf is completely invulnerable to any other weapon, the Ordon Sword has no Collission - except in the Horse Phase where Light Arrows weaken him, then he indeed is vulnerable to anything - and every other weapons he dodges or parries. Though I managed to hit my entire quiver full of Arrows in his wound, he grunts every time but he does not lose any HP despite the Bow and Arrow dealing more damage than the Master Sword. Then in Skyward Sword the Goddess Sword in all its forms is the only way to harm Ghirahim because he dodges Projectiles like Albert Wesker or they simply dont effect him. And you literally can only attack Demise with the Master Sword because not even your entire Inventory full of Nuke-Plants that can one-shot these huge Moblins dont have any effect on Demise, same goes for the Sacred Bow that deals 3 Times as much damage as the awakened Master Sword. Then there is A Link between worlds where the only time the Master Sword *is* neccesary is to break the barrier, and for the rest of the Game you simply can stop using it and use the Bow, the Fire Rod, the Hammer and even the Lantern to kill everything. Evem Yuganon, who is Yuga and Ganon with Triforce of Power combined and should thereby actually be more Powerful... Oh look, you can harm him with other weapons. And then there are Botw and Totk where the Master Sword is entirely optional to get, yet has the same effect on dark Beast Ganon as Light Arrows by simply using the Sword Beam and deals 300 Damage to Demon Dragon - which is 10 times the Base damage. Yet both are optional except for the part to finish the Demon Dragon off. So basically up to Skyward Sword the Master Sword is neccesary to finish the Final Boss - and also for story progression like Breaking Barriers, time travel, opening entrances to other areas and so on Then in the More open World Games the Master Sword is optional to use
17:40 Why yes, because all great romances has the girl push the guy off of high statues and parachuting. Oh, who am I kidding, I love Skyward Sword ZeLink.
damn, was with you in the first half, lost me in the second... fr tho ss zelink is the only one to have ANY chemistry other than maybe totk (and NOT breath of the wild, they have no chemistry there either) and while it's not my thing, i think they're better as friends, i at least UNDERSTAND it. i will NEVER understand shipping it in the other games tbh. there's like. almost always something better anyway
@@pokefanmelody Saying they have no chemistry in BOTW is just genuinely missing the point of the memories. You literally see them grow closer over time. And then saying "maybe" for TOTK is just straight up delusional. Between Zelda excitedly yapping to Link in the very beginning, to the implication that they live together, to her gushing about him to Raura and Sonia, to the "Link, I'm home" at the end, they couldnt have made it any more obvious how she felt about Link without straight up saying it. And even Ganondorf knew Link felt the same with the way he spoke through Phantom Zelda. Also, WW Link and Zelda have great chemistry as well. Plus Spirit tracks Link and Zelda straight up hold hands at the end. You can not enjoy Zelink, and it def isnt a thing in every game, but SS is far from the only game where they have chemistry.
you can reach the horned statue in TOTK without doing a dungeon by entering the cave in hyrule castle and traverse it backwards towards lookout landing
@@Arisxgon His biggest complaint about Hyrule Warriors on Wii U is having to run all the way around the map. His biggest praise of Age of Calamity is that you can switch characters and direct them to go to places when not using them. Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition on Switch _also_ allows you to switch characters and direct them to go to places when not using them. (as it was a thing from the 3DS game)
That was the version I played, and I was hella confused when he was talking about not being able to order the characters or switch between them. I didn't know you couldn't do that in the original
If you want to count it, the Lego Zelda set includes the master sword, so you can speedrun it. It took me about 30 minutes to get to the bag containing the sword, but you could just skip ahead and open the bag early.
42:04 actually you are insane because it's not the extra health that saved you, if you're at full health, you're guaranteed to survive any attack with a quarter heart
32:00 Yeah so...in Hyrule Warriors Legends and Definitive Edition (haven't played first version on Wii U), you can also switch characters and order them around the map. There are plenty missions where you start out only controlling one character in both games, but get access to other characters on the map. Except for a few missions here and there (in both) where you're limited to one character....you're not limited to one character.
yeah, I actually didn't like the fact that she changes for the ending. When she leaves Link and Zelda, I know it's her and the same one from the entire game, but my brain doesn't really associate her with imp Midna, so her farewell doesn't hit as hard as Fi's
@@ypto82that’s a fair opinion. To me, the fact she struggled the entire time with being cursed with the imp form; it just makes that ending much better realizing how thankful she is to be back to her normal form.
@@zapking8209 I feel like the main reason most people HATE how Tetra was just turned into zelda was that zelda is, like link, a perpetually reincarnating person, but that doesn't mean she looks the same every time, same as link himself. So, when the transformation from Tetra to Zelda included magically whitewashing her instead of just a wardrobe change it was really fucking weird of nintendo to do that. Midna is established as being cursed and outcast during the game, and there's even foreshadowing throughout that establishes that Midna isn't in her true form while she's an imp.
You don't actually need to beat a temple to use the Horned Statue in TOTK, you just have to access it from the Hyrule Castle entrance to the passage if you do it beforehand
I’d really like to see a version of this that uses speedrun tricks and glitches to get the sword actually as fast as possible, such as Door of Time Skip, superswimming in Wind Waker, early master sword in Twilight Princess, etc. i already know how long it takes to get them vanilla, I’ve done that myself many times lol
15:18 this cutscene is great because it's meant to be link being exposed to ultimate power, it's a story about how humans took advantage of this ability and used it for selfish reasons and link saw himself being tempted by it too. No other game has link to through this and it's such a good moment because the master sword only allows itself to be taken by people who are worthy, meaning link had to earn it to be considered worthy, he wasn't born with greatness like oot link was.
All links have the same soul, "the spirit of the hero" Which before you shoot me, doesn't make it worse, it makes it much better, link was always tempted every time he had the triforce in his possession, Link also has his own desires and even fears It is the fact that he can control them that makes him worthy He was never "destined for greatness" He earned it even though he didn't want it as his ultimate goal, but he did it
just watching this, fun fact, a small amount of wind waker here could've been cut by just going to grandma's house BEFORE speaking to petra, she'll start to ask you to go get a shield and be like "huh? you already have one? well okay lol" i learned this as a small child playing this game over and over again.
In skyward sword, you need to open the second gate of ti.e and talk to zealda and she will make the master sword into the true master sword which only takes Like 10 mins
I’d love to see you do a follow-up to this video where you use the lessons learned here (still no glitches/etc) to do an optimal run! Also, if you ever choose to do that, it would also be cool if you completed the final form of each version, as the initial Master Swords in certain games aren’t their true form (like Wind Waker and Skyward Sword) 😌
“now, this isn’t an essential step by any means but i decided to do it because it doesn’t really take that long to farm up the rupees in the first place”
in the start of totk, what you have isn't "really" the master sword, it's an item called msgnotfound, which is unbreakable. also, in totk you can never go from full health to dead in one hit.
For totk, that extra heart container didn't help keep you alive. There's a mechanic in the game where if you have full health, you physically can't die in 1 hit. So say an attack deals 5 hearts, but you only have 3, you'll survive on half a heart, as long as you were at full health
Something I discovered (just yesterday, in fact) is that, in TotK, you CAN get to the bargaining statue before completing the Wind Temple. Just start at the exit of the secret path in the castle ruins and work your way back!
As much as i love wind waker, link is a horrible sailor! In the game, sailing with the wind directly coming from directly behind you is indeed the fastest and encouraged way to sail, but it’s a huge no-no for sailing in boats that size! Optimally, he’d be sailing with the wind coming from the back of one of his shoulders, not straight from his back! It’s not a real critique of the game, just something i find funny as a sailor.
@@Tyrael17X yeah that’s what i’m trying to say maybe i didn’t word it very well, you should never sail with wind right behind you, but in the game, it’s the fastest way and the way they tell you to sail
26:25 its been known for a long time you can get the master sword with a glitch here. Yes it does not give you the item screen as it would when playing the cutscene, but you have the master sword nontheless
2:43 there is a Free Hylian Shield in the Kakakori Graveyard, you have to push one of the graves aside to reveal a hole where if you kill the enemies a chest with the shield will spawn.
Fun fact: you can make botw's time to get the master sword INSANELY SHORT, but with the ways of using glitches, one includes the campfire, the other includes heart / stamina duplication
I actually really like that this is a challenge without speedrun skips, but i would be really interested in seeing how much faster the glitched run would be
I feel like there's a sweet spot for getting a legendary weapon. If you get it early, it feels less like a reward and more like a cosmic gimmie of fate. Late, and it feels like nothing more than a plot point for killing off the final boss. In the middle of a quest, not only does it feel earned, but it becomes a fun toy to play with for the rest of the game. None of these approaches are bad. They just change the vibe and are all good in their own way. I just like to think about how creative choices can affect a games overall feel.
Quick tip for skyward sword (specifically the ghirahim fights) If you hold up you shield when he is threatening to take your sword, he will track the sword as if it is to the right of your body (even if you are holding it to the left with motion controls) leaving him open to be slashed from the left and combo'd from there on Idk if this works in the hd version as I've only played the one on the wii, but it's worth a shot
@@MinscShip Also nope, it really does work that way. Almost no matter what attack from enemies, you will live with 1 quarter of a heart, as long as you have full health when hit. The things that you will die from there, is things that damages you immediately after a hit, like rolling around for too long, or a Guardian Laser hits you as that bypasses the one hit survival. And this is only for normal mode for BotW, as Master Mode just turns that off.
ah yes.. Hyrule Warriors's Master Sword .. obtaining it is easy! But to unseal it's abilities is the real challenge! You have to collect one of every weapon of every level for every single character .. and that isn't easy!
Finally someone else who agrees Hyrule Warriors is underrated. It was peak hack and slash and features so much content. I'm on my way to 100%ing it as we speak. Every map. Every enemy. All gold ranked. Currently on Termina map. Those spider things are a difficult hunt though. I have to look up how to even get most of their second versions.
By the way, the annoying ball maze shrine can be easily completed by flipping your controller over(the underside of the maze is flat) and saves some time
That's an evil suggestion 😂 Requires a full playthrough to get the linked secret, and finish the trading sidequest in both the first game and the linked game to get it... That's guaranteed to take so long that I'd argue it's not worth comparing it to others... 😅
in my play thought of Tears of the Kingdom, i have found the back door [True door] to the Royal Hidden Passage that the Horned Statue was and didn't know that a door open up to the Horned Statue in Emergency Shelter at Lookout Landing
When it comes to tears of the kingdom, it isnt required to defeat one of the dungeons to unlock the pathway to the elder statue as there are two pathways, the first one requiring one of the dungeons to be finished, and another involving with goibg directly to the ditch hyrule castle. instead you can go through a broken wall by the edge of the whole where hyrule castle lies and following the pathway eventually leads you back to where the elder statue rest
42:04 Fun fact The game have a great mechanic that make it impossible to die in one hit if you have 100% of your hp Even if you had only max 3 hearts/12hp
Technically, in Skyward Sword having the sword forged with the 3 flames doesn't turn it into the Master Sword until it is further blessed by Zelda which only happens after defeating the Imprisoned a second time and going back in time. So it would likely take at least 15 more minutes to get the Master Sword from after getting the blade forged by the 3rd sacred flame.
I might be unpopular in saying this but I think the Skyward Sword remake does a wonderful job of handling motion controls. I found it fun and honestly quite engaging. That being said, I have never played the original.
Actually, there's a WAY faster way of obtaining the master sword in TotK... you just need to get to the last (dragon) phase of Ganondorf's boss fight, where you automatically get the master sword if you didn't already have it. (I highly recommend using speedrun techniques if you attempt this though, but if you aren't skilled in the fight itself, fairy duping should help with most of the skill problems) Also for the same reason, the fastest time is basically significantly lower than the one you showed, since you can watch regular speedruns which already is far lower than an hour. (about 36 minutes to get to that phase of the fight in a speedrun 3 months ago) (this also puts TotK at the top of the leaderboard even if we do not count the start of the game)
OoC great fairies were scary (i played OoC after playing both WW and TP) Also i agree hyrule warriors is underrated and i love it, favourite character to play as is medli
I know you explained it in the intro but still feel Link to the Past got Blue balled since it was the game that introduced the trademark sword, and Wind Waker and Skyward Sword should be extended since you don't get the "True" Master Sword until a little later in each game.
@@Majinhero In the Kakariko graveyard is a grave with flowers in front of it it. At night you can move the gravestone to reveal a cave. Inside the cave is a chest with a free Hylian Shield.
Funny enough with the exception of mask side quests you can still complete the child section while getting all possible heart pieces and skultulla in just under 3 hours
23:53 Are you playing the original WiiU version? Because they changed this in both the 3DS version and the Switch Definitive Edition. Might not change the time, but would make the gameplay leading up to it more varied and fun. Better comparison too, since you played both the HD re-releases of at least Wind Waker and Skyward Sword, instead of their originals.
if you don't count the goddess sword as the master sword than the depowered master sword in wind waker probably shouldn't count either (IMO these two games should have had two times, how long it takes to get any master sword, and how long it takes to get the full powered master sword)
I wonder if the totk section would have been faster if you had just rushed for ganondorf. It would be difficult, but if you could make it to the demon dragon, you're just given the master sword for the fight
Sad that you skipped the Oracle games. They are interesting in that aquiring the Master Sword requires fully beating one game and then progressing quite far into the other.
If I recall correctly, the reason WW Link didn’t care for anything going on originally is because he is NOT a predestined hero such as Skywards or Time, he was literally just a kid/teen that had all those circumstances thrust upon him with his main goal being to save his sister.
Plus he had to literally BUILD (collect first) the triforce of courage to become it’s bearer rather than being born with it
I think I heard someone say "Wind Waker's Link wasn't chosen by the gods, he forced them to choose him. Diving deep into the ocean to collect pieces of the Triforce of Courage and forging it back"
Legend of Kai Please make a Remastered Nintendo franchise or Ubisoft Ea Franchises. Please.
WW Link wasn't born a hero, he was forged into one
I mean he was a chosen hero. The king of hyrule chose him. And tasked him with gathering the power he needed go up against Ganon so he can save his sister and even after saving his sister he continues to go after Ganon .
More or less. OoT Link goes back to his time, leaving Adult Timeline with no hero to fight the revived Ganon, forcing the Goddess to flood Hyrule. Yes, he's still a reincarnation of the Hero's Spirit as Tetra is a reincarnation of the Goddess Hylia/Zelda, but beyond something all Links have in common, WW Link is the least connected to the Link line since his predecessor effectively doesn't exist in his timeline. He is, as you said, essentially just some kid dropped into stuff, having to man up and earn that Hero title.
I love that this is in regular person time, not speedrunning time 😅
Same relief here
Yeah but now I want to know how fast it would be for a speedrunner
Human time vs. Clinically insane time
Y'know how twilight princess was 8 hours? Its about 20 minutes in the speedrun. @DukeCyrus
I had originally planned to learn some speedrunning tech...but after a week of trying...I knew the video would never come out
All jokes aside 50 mins for the plateau in Botw is actually a solid time when not using glitches and exploits
My best time without glitches besides whistle sprint is 12 minutes
@@ODINSWISHES When hearing the music of obataining the master sword the duh----nuh---nuh-----nuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Makes me feel great every time like undertale music
@@ODINSWISHESfunny because the world record is 19 minutes and 13 seconds sooo.....😂😂
@@ODINSWISHESmaybe you mean 112 minutes
@@ODINSWISHES No... it isn't...
Technically, if you count it, Skyward Sword is actually super short, as the Goddess Sword evolves into the Master Sword. In a way, the Goddess Sword IS the Master Sword.
You could also count it, Wind Waker, and Breath of the Wild even longer, as it’s not fully powered up when you first attain them.
@@JosephHeiskellunlike windwaker , botw master sword upgrades are dlc and its always fully powered only around malice enemy
Yeh FI is the master sword so yes you’re right
In Tears Of The Kingdom, you get it at the beginning
Its very ship of theseus
so actually during the Phantom Ganon fight in TOTK, the reason you weren’t killed in one hit is because there’s a hidden mechanic that keeps you from being one-shot if you’re at full health! doesn’t matter how many heart containers you have! pretty nice of them to include lol
Wait really??? Wow...I never even knew that...I just remembered from one of my older playthroughs that I survived with 5 hearts...now I feel like a complete idiot, but thanks for making that clear!
@@Legend-of-Kai no don’t feel like an idiot!! i only recently figured that out too! i just wanted to share :)
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I actually hated this mechanic because it's really inconsistent. It applies to almost every enemy, but some attacks go through this, and there really is no obvious indicator in any situation which attacks will ignore the 1HP barrier. Then, on the other hand, the game can be run minimal hearts and no armor to make it extremely easy to heal yourself to max and Link basically always has on his Focus Sash (for anyone who plays Pokemon) for 90%+ of encounters. I preferred the difficulty from BotW personally, but I do see how this makes the game more accessible. It just feels really bad to me when I barely survive an attack on that low HP cause I don't feel like I earned it ever, like I would in prior games. It just feels like a participation trophy to me
Fun fact: the only incarnation of Link that doesn't have a boomerang is Skyward Sword Link. Meanwhile, 5 out the 12 incarnations of Link lack the Master Sword, and it only appears in 8 out of 20 games. So I propose we make the boomerang the new iconic weapon of the series, given it's much more prominent role across the games.
Sokka and link are beat friends. They both love Boomerangs🪃
Funny how this became outdated so soon with echoes of wisdom
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Well, technically we play as Zelda, so who knows if Link had a boomerang or not before getting to her and just lost it or something.
14 incarnations, 13 when you commented. Dark Horse fucked up the translation in TLoZE, the whole reason they redid the timeline from HH was to establish OoX Link as separate from ALttP/LA Link. The Japanese version of the revised timeline says they're separate.
I like to highlight the fact in this video with the timer going, that by the time one enters the first dungeon in Twilight Princess, one could already be at the door to the boss for the first dungeon in Skyward Sword. Making Twilight Princess, indeed, the slowest intro of any Zelda game.
Good thing you didn't try to do this challenge in the Oracle games. Because you literally can't get the Master Sword in either of them without _finishing the other one first._ (It's a Linked Game bonus.)
I forgot about that... And those weren't short games either!
In those games the nobel sword may as well be the master sword.
It requires a lot more skill to get past the army, but if you head straight to Ganon at the beginning of TOTK, they just give you the master sword when it shows up, no stamina check required.
Specifically on the dragon phase of the fight.
How necessary is the Master Sword in every game, excluding plot reasons
Strong sword very good
It usually does double damage to the base sword which is necessary enough in my book at least.
The Master Sword is the only weapon to *harm* a Full Triforce Ganon because any other weapon fails - even the God Killing Silver Arrows that can only harm him if you paralyze him in Phase 2 with... The Master Sword, and even then, you can only harm him with Spin Attacks unless you upgrade it into the Golden Sword, then spamming regular swings is more effective.
In Ocarina of Time you can basically pick like any other weapon against Ganondorf in Tennis.
The Biggoron Sword, the Megaton Hammer, a Bottle, and he can also be harmed by anything that has damage value when stunned with a Light Arrow.
His Ganon Form is quite interesting.
First:
Every weapon - Including the Allmighty Biggoron Sword - only deals as much damage as the Kokiri Sword to any Regular enemy, the Master Sword is the Only Exception dealing Double Damage as the Kokiri Sword.
And second:
At some point he has either infinite durrability or he regenerates after each swipe, That's why you have to hit him with the Master Sword to bring him Down, and them to thrust this Blade of Exorcism into the Brain of that Beast.
In Wind Waker the Master Sword is pretty much the only Weapon to harm Phantom Ganon even in a weakened state (and later the Light Arrows simply erradicate him)
Same thing goes for Ganondorf.
He is only vulnerable to the Master Sword while Light Arrows simply stun him.
In Twilight Princess Ganondorf is completely invulnerable to any other weapon, the Ordon Sword has no Collission - except in the Horse Phase where Light Arrows weaken him, then he indeed is vulnerable to anything - and every other weapons he dodges or parries.
Though I managed to hit my entire quiver full of Arrows in his wound, he grunts every time but he does not lose any HP despite the Bow and Arrow dealing more damage than the Master Sword.
Then in Skyward Sword the Goddess Sword in all its forms is the only way to harm Ghirahim because he dodges Projectiles like Albert Wesker or they simply dont effect him.
And you literally can only attack Demise with the Master Sword because not even your entire Inventory full of Nuke-Plants that can one-shot these huge Moblins dont have any effect on Demise, same goes for the Sacred Bow that deals 3 Times as much damage as the awakened Master Sword.
Then there is A Link between worlds where the only time the Master Sword *is* neccesary is to break the barrier, and for the rest of the Game you simply can stop using it and use the Bow, the Fire Rod, the Hammer and even the Lantern to kill everything.
Evem Yuganon, who is Yuga and Ganon with Triforce of Power combined and should thereby actually be more Powerful... Oh look, you can harm him with other weapons.
And then there are Botw and Totk where the Master Sword is entirely optional to get, yet has the same effect on dark Beast Ganon as Light Arrows by simply using the Sword Beam and deals 300 Damage to Demon Dragon - which is 10 times the Base damage.
Yet both are optional except for the part to finish the Demon Dragon off.
So basically up to Skyward Sword the Master Sword is neccesary to finish the Final Boss - and also for story progression like Breaking Barriers, time travel, opening entrances to other areas and so on
Then in the More open World Games the Master Sword is optional to use
@@Chris-gx1eiholy shit bro
@@Chris-gx1eithat’s a lot of
17:40 Why yes, because all great romances has the girl push the guy off of high statues and parachuting.
Oh, who am I kidding, I love Skyward Sword ZeLink.
damn, was with you in the first half, lost me in the second... fr tho ss zelink is the only one to have ANY chemistry other than maybe totk (and NOT breath of the wild, they have no chemistry there either) and while it's not my thing, i think they're better as friends, i at least UNDERSTAND it. i will NEVER understand shipping it in the other games tbh. there's like. almost always something better anyway
@@pokefanmelodyexcept wind waker man links and tetras chemistry are great
@@pokefanmelody Also he doesn't talk in BOTW and TOTK so how the fuck does he have chemistry in one but not the other?
@@pokefanmelody Saying they have no chemistry in BOTW is just genuinely missing the point of the memories. You literally see them grow closer over time. And then saying "maybe" for TOTK is just straight up delusional. Between Zelda excitedly yapping to Link in the very beginning, to the implication that they live together, to her gushing about him to Raura and Sonia, to the "Link, I'm home" at the end, they couldnt have made it any more obvious how she felt about Link without straight up saying it. And even Ganondorf knew Link felt the same with the way he spoke through Phantom Zelda. Also, WW Link and Zelda have great chemistry as well. Plus Spirit tracks Link and Zelda straight up hold hands at the end. You can not enjoy Zelink, and it def isnt a thing in every game, but SS is far from the only game where they have chemistry.
i really like how genuine you are. it's nice to hear people talk about stuff they like :]
"look, I'm not gay but-" is one of the most real things I've heard
That pose do be epic though.
you can reach the horned statue in TOTK without doing a dungeon by entering the cave in hyrule castle and traverse it backwards towards lookout landing
Had you played Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition, you could’ve saved so much time
Does he even know that the Definitive Edition exists?
Why
@@Arisxgon His biggest complaint about Hyrule Warriors on Wii U is having to run all the way around the map.
His biggest praise of Age of Calamity is that you can switch characters and direct them to go to places when not using them.
Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition on Switch _also_ allows you to switch characters and direct them to go to places when not using them. (as it was a thing from the 3DS game)
@@Aerafuz oh ok thanks
That was the version I played, and I was hella confused when he was talking about not being able to order the characters or switch between them. I didn't know you couldn't do that in the original
Honestly as great as this video was, (it really is great btw)
I'm just happy that someone else feels the exact same way about the great fairies as me.
If you want to count it, the Lego Zelda set includes the master sword, so you can speedrun it. It took me about 30 minutes to get to the bag containing the sword, but you could just skip ahead and open the bag early.
42:04 actually you are insane because it's not the extra health that saved you, if you're at full health, you're guaranteed to survive any attack with a quarter heart
32:00 Yeah so...in Hyrule Warriors Legends and Definitive Edition (haven't played first version on Wii U), you can also switch characters and order them around the map. There are plenty missions where you start out only controlling one character in both games, but get access to other characters on the map. Except for a few missions here and there (in both) where you're limited to one character....you're not limited to one character.
Im sooooo glad to see I wasnt the only one who was terrified at the spirit sections in Skyward Sword as a kiddo.
I prefer how Midna looks before her "glow up" actually
No pun intended
yeah, I actually didn't like the fact that she changes for the ending. When she leaves Link and Zelda, I know it's her and the same one from the entire game, but my brain doesn't really associate her with imp Midna, so her farewell doesn't hit as hard as Fi's
It’s like when Tetra transforms into Zelda, it makes the character feel so different 😔 (although Midna’s transformation is done a bit better)
@@ypto82that’s a fair opinion. To me, the fact she struggled the entire time with being cursed with the imp form; it just makes that ending much better realizing how thankful she is to be back to her normal form.
@@zapking8209 I feel like the main reason most people HATE how Tetra was just turned into zelda was that zelda is, like link, a perpetually reincarnating person, but that doesn't mean she looks the same every time, same as link himself. So, when the transformation from Tetra to Zelda included magically whitewashing her instead of just a wardrobe change it was really fucking weird of nintendo to do that. Midna is established as being cursed and outcast during the game, and there's even foreshadowing throughout that establishes that Midna isn't in her true form while she's an imp.
What great vídeo, congrats dude!
You don't actually need to beat a temple to use the Horned Statue in TOTK, you just have to access it from the Hyrule Castle entrance to the passage if you do it beforehand
I’d really like to see a version of this that uses speedrun tricks and glitches to get the sword actually as fast as possible, such as Door of Time Skip, superswimming in Wind Waker, early master sword in Twilight Princess, etc. i already know how long it takes to get them vanilla, I’ve done that myself many times lol
You times show a casual playthough, the time a non-speedrunner would get. Enjoyed the video.
10:41 can’t stress how much that made me laugh for no reason at all
12:25 “best glop in gaming history”
15:18 this cutscene is great because it's meant to be link being exposed to ultimate power, it's a story about how humans took advantage of this ability and used it for selfish reasons and link saw himself being tempted by it too.
No other game has link to through this and it's such a good moment because the master sword only allows itself to be taken by people who are worthy, meaning link had to earn it to be considered worthy, he wasn't born with greatness like oot link was.
All links have the same soul, "the spirit of the hero"
Which before you shoot me, doesn't make it worse, it makes it much better, link was always tempted every time he had the triforce in his possession, Link also has his own desires and even fears
It is the fact that he can control them that makes him worthy
He was never "destined for greatness"
He earned it even though he didn't want it as his ultimate goal, but he did it
just watching this, fun fact, a small amount of wind waker here could've been cut by just going to grandma's house BEFORE speaking to petra, she'll start to ask you to go get a shield and be like "huh? you already have one? well okay lol" i learned this as a small child playing this game over and over again.
You earned my sub purely because you said Windwaker was your favorite 😂
Video was entertaining too but that's unimportant Windwaker 🐐 baby 😂
Twilight princess was the first Zelda game I had beaten so it has a special place in my heart
motion controls for skyward sword are goated
I have just found your videos today and you sound IDENTICAL to one of my mates and it's kinda freaking me out
Awesome Video Bro.
In skyward sword, you need to open the second gate of ti.e and talk to zealda and she will make the master sword into the true master sword which only takes Like 10 mins
Time*
I’d love to see you do a follow-up to this video where you use the lessons learned here (still no glitches/etc) to do an optimal run!
Also, if you ever choose to do that, it would also be cool if you completed the final form of each version, as the initial Master Swords in certain games aren’t their true form (like Wind Waker and Skyward Sword) 😌
2:40 you don't actually need to buy the Hylian Shield, you can just go to the Graveyard and pick it up inside one of the tombs
“now, this isn’t an essential step by any means but i decided to do it because it doesn’t really take that long to farm up the rupees in the first place”
I never knew I needed to see baby prince sidon
in the start of totk, what you have isn't "really" the master sword, it's an item called msgnotfound, which is unbreakable.
also, in totk you can never go from full health to dead in one hit.
24:40 Yeah, it's Fi (fy) as in "find", just like Navi is for "navigation". At least, that was my personal reasoning for it
Sick intro man
If hyrule warriors has no fans I’m dead, I love that game so much!
For totk, that extra heart container didn't help keep you alive. There's a mechanic in the game where if you have full health, you physically can't die in 1 hit. So say an attack deals 5 hearts, but you only have 3, you'll survive on half a heart, as long as you were at full health
9:23 my favourite zelda location, The Forest Navel
Not to be confused with the Pikmin 1 location Forest Haven
Something I discovered (just yesterday, in fact) is that, in TotK, you CAN get to the bargaining statue before completing the Wind Temple. Just start at the exit of the secret path in the castle ruins and work your way back!
When you said "before i was rudely interrupted" I got an ad, so not only by yourself. lol
As much as i love wind waker, link is a horrible sailor! In the game, sailing with the wind directly coming from directly behind you is indeed the fastest and encouraged way to sail, but it’s a huge no-no for sailing in boats that size! Optimally, he’d be sailing with the wind coming from the back of one of his shoulders, not straight from his back! It’s not a real critique of the game, just something i find funny as a sailor.
Why exactly would a smaller boat need a different wind direction
@@Arisxgon Because the wind is strong enough to tip the boat over, or even snap the mast at its base.
I am sorry and maybe I am stupid but I thought you never sail with the wind directly behind you and always with a slight angle if possible?
@@Tyrael17X yeah that’s what i’m trying to say maybe i didn’t word it very well, you should never sail with wind right behind you, but in the game, it’s the fastest way and the way they tell you to sail
@@sadwaffleboy aah ok bc the "in boats that size" made me think that bigger boats want to get the wind perfectly from behind
26:25 its been known for a long time you can get the master sword with a glitch here. Yes it does not give you the item screen as it would when playing the cutscene, but you have the master sword nontheless
The Andross comment in the windwaker section killed me lol 😂
Great video! Thought you were going to do the master sword for seasons and ages as well though
2:43 there is a Free Hylian Shield in the Kakakori Graveyard, you have to push one of the graves aside to reveal a hole where if you kill the enemies a chest with the shield will spawn.
I love how the kokiri emerald is in frame because of clover camera shots
Fun fact: you can make botw's time to get the master sword INSANELY SHORT, but with the ways of using glitches, one includes the campfire, the other includes heart / stamina duplication
from 1:20 to 1:43 i had literal *chills* the entire time every it brought me to tears, god these game are amazing…
I fucking love ocarina of time
This is just a video idea but you should contact a couple LoZ speedrunners and see how fast you can get the master sword with glitches.
Wr for TP is an 18:37
with totk you just need to fight dragon ganon as fast as possible
Or put evert orb of light in stamina and go to korok forest as fast as you can
@@chancerobert7505getting to dragon ganon is probably faster
It would take like 40 minutes to get to the dragon
@@evanplays7923and probably more to get another full stamina wheel and to complete the phantom ganon korok quest aaaand actually find dragon zelda
I would love to see the speedrunner version of this
I actually really like that this is a challenge without speedrun skips, but i would be really interested in seeing how much faster the glitched run would be
I feel like there's a sweet spot for getting a legendary weapon. If you get it early, it feels less like a reward and more like a cosmic gimmie of fate. Late, and it feels like nothing more than a plot point for killing off the final boss. In the middle of a quest, not only does it feel earned, but it becomes a fun toy to play with for the rest of the game. None of these approaches are bad. They just change the vibe and are all good in their own way. I just like to think about how creative choices can affect a games overall feel.
Great video!
how does this person not have a million subs
Quick tip for skyward sword (specifically the ghirahim fights)
If you hold up you shield when he is threatening to take your sword, he will track the sword as if it is to the right of your body (even if you are holding it to the left with motion controls) leaving him open to be slashed from the left and combo'd from there on
Idk if this works in the hd version as I've only played the one on the wii, but it's worth a shot
for totk and botw normal mode, if you have full health i’m pretty sure you’re guaranteed not to die
nope just replayed botw tried to take it with 6 hearts and i die (yes i was drunk)
@@MinscShip Also nope, it really does work that way. Almost no matter what attack from enemies, you will live with 1 quarter of a heart, as long as you have full health when hit. The things that you will die from there, is things that damages you immediately after a hit, like rolling around for too long, or a Guardian Laser hits you as that bypasses the one hit survival.
And this is only for normal mode for BotW, as Master Mode just turns that off.
ah yes.. Hyrule Warriors's Master Sword .. obtaining it is easy! But to unseal it's abilities is the real challenge! You have to collect one of every weapon of every level for every single character .. and that isn't easy!
This vid is funny because Wind Waker was also my first completed Zelda game lol.
Finally someone else who agrees Hyrule Warriors is underrated. It was peak hack and slash and features so much content. I'm on my way to 100%ing it as we speak. Every map. Every enemy. All gold ranked. Currently on Termina map. Those spider things are a difficult hunt though. I have to look up how to even get most of their second versions.
Totk flying machine go brrrr
midna's glob? or glow up? 44:01
24:46 yes a lot of ppl have😭 her name is pronounced Phai, shes also spelled like that in other languages
You actually never got the master sword in Skyward Sword because you never got it blessed by Zelda.
6:15 why did an ad apear when you said "before i got interrupted" 😭
6:13 actually 🤓
Lol
Same
Great, I'm not the only one who had that! Hahaha!
By the way, the annoying ball maze shrine can be easily completed by flipping your controller over(the underside of the maze is flat) and saves some time
If you wanna do the 2d Zelda equivalent of this, oracle of ages & Seasons is on the Gameboy app on Nintendo Switch Online.
That's an evil suggestion 😂 Requires a full playthrough to get the linked secret, and finish the trading sidequest in both the first game and the linked game to get it... That's guaranteed to take so long that I'd argue it's not worth comparing it to others... 😅
5:40-ish I was expecting him to say “the legendary sword OF TIME”
in my play thought of Tears of the Kingdom, i have found the back door [True door] to the Royal Hidden Passage that the Horned Statue was and didn't know that a door open up to the Horned Statue in Emergency Shelter at Lookout Landing
When it comes to tears of the kingdom, it isnt required to defeat one of the dungeons to unlock the pathway to the elder statue as there are two pathways, the first one requiring one of the dungeons to be finished, and another involving with goibg directly to the ditch hyrule castle. instead you can go through a broken wall by the edge of the whole where hyrule castle lies and following the pathway eventually leads you back to where the elder statue rest
I mastered wind waker with retroachievement, what a game it is ❤
26:48 Method 4: do the campfire glitch and get the mastersword
your skywar sword time is off later it becomes the true Master Sword
42:04
Fun fact
The game have a great mechanic that make it impossible to die in one hit if you have 100% of your hp
Even if you had only max 3 hearts/12hp
No joke, I was asleep when I watch this and when I want to turn off my phone, this part 15:17 was on my screen and I almost jump out of my bed
Who knew the game whose entire plot was about CREATING the Master Sword would take so long?😂
Technically, in Skyward Sword having the sword forged with the 3 flames doesn't turn it into the Master Sword until it is further blessed by Zelda which only happens after defeating the Imprisoned a second time and going back in time. So it would likely take at least 15 more minutes to get the Master Sword from after getting the blade forged by the 3rd sacred flame.
I’m my opinion twilight princess has some of the best bosses and skyward sword has some of the best dungeons
Nice video!
28:37 That one has an easy bypass. Just flip the maze upside down and roll the ball on the flat surface. You know, for future reference.
I might be unpopular in saying this but I think the Skyward Sword remake does a wonderful job of handling motion controls. I found it fun and honestly quite engaging. That being said, I have never played the original.
Bro wind waker is the first zelda game I ever played but when I got the master sword I felt unstoppable
where we meet ever kids nightmare "my fellow scary fairy brother hahah"
kind of funny how the game that takes the longest is also the game were you tecknickly start off with the master sword
Actually, there's a WAY faster way of obtaining the master sword in TotK... you just need to get to the last (dragon) phase of Ganondorf's boss fight, where you automatically get the master sword if you didn't already have it. (I highly recommend using speedrun techniques if you attempt this though, but if you aren't skilled in the fight itself, fairy duping should help with most of the skill problems)
Also for the same reason, the fastest time is basically significantly lower than the one you showed, since you can watch regular speedruns which already is far lower than an hour. (about 36 minutes to get to that phase of the fight in a speedrun 3 months ago)
(this also puts TotK at the top of the leaderboard even if we do not count the start of the game)
OoC great fairies were scary (i played OoC after playing both WW and TP)
Also i agree hyrule warriors is underrated and i love it, favourite character to play as is medli
I know you explained it in the intro but still feel Link to the Past got Blue balled since it was the game that introduced the trademark sword, and Wind Waker and Skyward Sword should be extended since you don't get the "True" Master Sword until a little later in each game.
In Ocarina, you can get a Hylian Shield for free in the graveyard, rather than farming money to buy one for full price.
how?
@@Majinhero In the Kakariko graveyard is a grave with flowers in front of it it. At night you can move the gravestone to reveal a cave. Inside the cave is a chest with a free Hylian Shield.
Ooh, another new thing I didn't know about OoT. I've always waited until the Kakariko guard gives you a discount before buying it
Funny enough with the exception of mask side quests you can still complete the child section while getting all possible heart pieces and skultulla in just under 3 hours
23:53 Are you playing the original WiiU version? Because they changed this in both the 3DS version and the Switch Definitive Edition. Might not change the time, but would make the gameplay leading up to it more varied and fun. Better comparison too, since you played both the HD re-releases of at least Wind Waker and Skyward Sword, instead of their originals.
if you don't count the goddess sword as the master sword than the depowered master sword in wind waker probably shouldn't count either (IMO these two games should have had two times, how long it takes to get any master sword, and how long it takes to get the full powered master sword)
I wonder if the totk section would have been faster if you had just rushed for ganondorf. It would be difficult, but if you could make it to the demon dragon, you're just given the master sword for the fight
Sad that you skipped the Oracle games. They are interesting in that aquiring the Master Sword requires fully beating one game and then progressing quite far into the other.
And I thought I was the only one who felt like playing Dark Souls and not a Zelda game with BotW!