2023 Toyota Supra Manual: Finally!

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    2023 Toyota Supra manual review! The 2023 Toyota Supra manual is FINALLY the Supra we wanted -- with 6 cylinders and three pedals. Today I'm reviewing the new 2023 Supra 6-speed manual, and I'll show you all around it. I'm also doing drive the new 2023 Supra manual and review the driving experience.
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  • @zoltore23
    @zoltore23 Год назад +5163

    Honestly, I miss the breakdown of each category in the Doug Score. It was interesting to see WHY Doug gave each score.

    • @0thers1d3
      @0thers1d3 Год назад +434

      He would literally contradict himself and repeat the same lines over and over.
      Honestly, his scores were nonsense.

    • @joelcaleb1781
      @joelcaleb1781 Год назад +12

      Let’s go

    • @nimish2073
      @nimish2073 Год назад +103

      Doug has become lazy recently
      I miss his second channel too, more doug demuro

    • @nimish2073
      @nimish2073 Год назад +8

      @@0thers1d3 that's point

    • @awsomemodels
      @awsomemodels Год назад +87

      @@nimish2073 He basically uploads more doug de muro videos on his main channel now .

  • @venomtailOG
    @venomtailOG Год назад +2506

    So rare when a car company listens to its fans in the modern age. We should truly appreciate this.

    • @crymitch8590
      @crymitch8590 Год назад +65

      Would rather buy a 400z

    • @georgobergfell
      @georgobergfell Год назад +130

      I think this was more or less planned from the beginning

    • @Somchai007
      @Somchai007 Год назад +16

      @@crymitch8590 May I ask why?

    • @Cross._._
      @Cross._._ Год назад +99

      Because Nissan pushed them to do it.

    • @andyleo8418
      @andyleo8418 Год назад +104

      If they listened, they wouldn't have rebadged a BMW.

  • @alixcoulter6824
    @alixcoulter6824 Год назад +294

    Thank you, Doug, for taking the time and driving home the point that manual transmissions still have value in today's sports cars. Even if they were late to the party, Toyota deserves recognition for listening to enthusiasts and adding the option to their flagship icon. Hopefully, they'll even learn a lesson for next time!

    • @love4gtsandguns
      @love4gtsandguns Год назад +13

      The biggest issue with manuals is that the community loves them and loves to talk about them... the idea of manual is what makes a sports car. But when it comes to folks that show up with money to actually buy, not enough buy them vs the rave and hype. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Guess its gotten better over the past decade or so cause companies are bringing them back for a last hoorah.

  • @ryanskenard
    @ryanskenard Год назад +272

    BMW or not, they’re pretty rare where I live and every time I’ve seen one sitting at a stop light, everyone’s staring. Definitely one of the most eye catching affordable cars on the road right now, and I’d bet they’re a lot of fun to drive.

    • @austinjoyner6418
      @austinjoyner6418 Год назад +19

      As someone who owned a 2021 3.0 Supra, I can confirm they're a blast to drive. Really regret that I had to sell mine but I'll be getting another one(likely manual this time) cause I enjoyed the car so much lol

    • @chavang3699
      @chavang3699 Год назад +12

      Yea i got about 5 of them in my town. Ran my buddys launch edition with my C7 Z51 stock v stock, smoked him. He threw on a dp and tune/trans tune on e40... yea he took me to GappleBees lol

    • @someguy5035
      @someguy5035 Год назад +12

      Cool story. Not going to stop it from falling apart at 40,000 miles like every BMW.

    • @RockSolitude
      @RockSolitude Год назад

      @@someguy5035 "cool story" what are you? 12?
      I'll take "moron who doesn't know what he's talking about" for 500, Alex.

    • @RDKelly12
      @RDKelly12 Год назад +3

      They're great track cars too, they can put down some really quick laps. Someone in my region has been smashing SCCA class records with a supra.

  • @gearheadlydia
    @gearheadlydia Год назад +603

    Really hope Toyota chooses to offer the Supra in a green color for at least one year. Seeing the return of something like Imperial Jade Mica would be sweet.

    • @Drop_Dead5789
      @Drop_Dead5789 Год назад +18

      There is a Supra MK5 in my neighborhood which has a green color to it, more like lime green but damn it was sexy.

    • @Drop_Dead5789
      @Drop_Dead5789 Год назад +3

      Totally agree. Green ftw

    • @DragonKnightX12
      @DragonKnightX12 Год назад +30

      Or like the British Racing Green they had for the last gen 86.

    • @Omgiamsotriggered
      @Omgiamsotriggered Год назад +11

      Wish bmw gave it isle of man green

    • @TurboJThomas
      @TurboJThomas Год назад +1

      Bro YES. Iconic color

  • @FELiPES101
    @FELiPES101 Год назад +650

    I can only imagine how much markup there will be on those special editions

    • @Anthony-hd3yl
      @Anthony-hd3yl Год назад +53

      A local dealer wanted almost 80k for one. Another one was being sold for about 100k in Florida.

    • @oren6488
      @oren6488 Год назад +15

      That’s still not as bad as the new z

    • @CNovz
      @CNovz Год назад +11

      $15k over MSRP for a manual a91

    • @thisguy2989
      @thisguy2989 Год назад +16

      @@oren6488 yeah, i had a dealer trying to sell me the sport model for well over 60k... bruh

    • @2006gtobob
      @2006gtobob Год назад +2

      I just don't see it happening here in NW Indiana where the weather is crap and cars like this are frowned upon in the snow, so they are exceedingly rare. I've seen MAYBE 2. I have a home just outside of Phoenix and I see them all of the time while there and I can see the dealers gouging people there.

  • @mynameisphunk
    @mynameisphunk Год назад +169

    These have so much presence on the road, they truly are one of the most eye-catching vehicles out there. Amazing they added a manual option.

    • @Joe-vx8fd
      @Joe-vx8fd Год назад +12

      They look good from a distance but the body lines ruin it for me. The Ft1 concept looked 100x better

    • @BlackonBlackE46
      @BlackonBlackE46 Год назад +15

      @@Joe-vx8fd if they used the ft1 concept this would be a 100k dollar car lmfao

    • @timjones7336
      @timjones7336 Год назад +6

      I saw photos & videos and didn’t like it at all. But having seen them in the flesh, I actually like the way it looks.

    • @Eatinbritches
      @Eatinbritches 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's actually fairly attractive in the metal. Still not the prettiest, but that's a tall standard anyway

    • @Chris-hb6jt
      @Chris-hb6jt 8 месяцев назад +3

      definitely the best looking non-exotic front engined car out

  • @elayda93
    @elayda93 Год назад +11

    As a motorsports fan and love rally, a gauge cluster indicator of gear selection is very important and I love it.

  • @ramspace
    @ramspace Год назад +153

    What I like about Doug is that he is so enthusiastic.

    • @imrytebeehyneu
      @imrytebeehyneu Год назад +6

      Bot

    • @mr.2cents.846
      @mr.2cents.846 Год назад +2

      I like his reviews. But the actual driving is only one fourth of the whole review.

    • @ramspace
      @ramspace Год назад +5

      @@mr.2cents.846 I usually skip to the driving part too. And the score too, although the scoring is becoming predictable.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад

      @@mr.2cents.846 me too love Doug Demuro's review. Much better than Carwow.

    • @Alextheskater91
      @Alextheskater91 Год назад +1

      What I like about enthusiasm is it’s so Doug

  • @ze_ep
    @ze_ep Год назад +201

    That 3rd gear on-ramp pull at 12:05 was lovely

    • @imrytebeehyneu
      @imrytebeehyneu Год назад +9

      Cause it's a BMW

    • @turboluck2046
      @turboluck2046 Год назад +36

      @@imrytebeehyneu cAuSe ItS a BmW

    • @imrytebeehyneu
      @imrytebeehyneu Год назад +7

      @@turboluck2046 kawz eets a PM-BUB- BO- U

    • @wr8thbeatz322
      @wr8thbeatz322 Год назад +4

      @@turboluck2046 it is tho. My 328i makes that “lovely” down shift 😂. Not to snub the Supra it’s just a inline-6 thing

    • @Domi39
      @Domi39 Год назад

      Except It sounds like an automatic from all the rev hang... How the hell is that lovely? You people are ruining enthusiast cars by continuing to be infatuated with this neutered nonsense.

  • @I-di-nt-do-nuff-in-
    @I-di-nt-do-nuff-in- Год назад +31

    At only 20,000 over MSRP due to the dealer markup

  • @josephmaldonadojr4692
    @josephmaldonadojr4692 Год назад +8

    The part about the rev matching reminds me of my 85 supra it wants you to go in to each gear right away when you up or down shift it's actually something I always love about driving it though if you're good at it it feels as smooth as an automatic 😂

  • @nicholasstocker6866
    @nicholasstocker6866 Год назад +277

    The 6 cylinder engine in the Supra, named the B58, is a very reliable engine, and it’s ironically been called the modern 2JZ.

    • @lawnmowerdude
      @lawnmowerdude Год назад +1

      What’s the oldest one out there now?

    • @kiburebuc
      @kiburebuc Год назад +34

      @@lawnmowerdude According to Wikipedia, it was first used in the 2015 340i.

    • @Yggdrasill8
      @Yggdrasill8 Год назад +59

      I have a Supra GR 3.0, but it's auto. As an owner, the BMW plastic components in the powertrain still make me feel uneasy😬, radiators with plastic fail points, plastic oil pump, plastic injectors, plastic cylinder head cover, plastic oil pan, plastic charge pipe, plastic intake manifold (that one is ok), so much eventual disintegrating plastic.

    • @usaclaimsthemoon4198
      @usaclaimsthemoon4198 Год назад +2

      @@Yggdrasill8 this is such an interesting comment as it makes me curious as to why you purchased the Supra? I have to imagine the driving experience for you made it worth it?

    • @busydadscooking001
      @busydadscooking001 Год назад +15

      @@kiburebuc so reliable means .. history only from 2015 to 2022? Pshaw. 15 years min history imo before they can call it reliable. Most cars from 2015 won't even be at 100k miles ...

  • @awesomecarguy9897
    @awesomecarguy9897 Год назад +13

    14:19 So is no one going to talk about how Doug showed off the DougScore for the GR Corolla even though the video where he drives it isn't here yet?

  • @ksteak27
    @ksteak27 Год назад +4

    12:55 - "I've reviewed a bunch of previous supermodels..." Daddy Doug mode activated!!!

  • @bobhill3941
    @bobhill3941 Год назад +21

    I was shocked when Toyota released this. When I was playing Forza Horizon 5, the car I chose at the start was the new Supra and I naturally kept the "transmission" in manual once I learned how to "shift" on fh3 for all vehicles. I just never thought Toyota would put a stick in the Supra. I thought they could've not gone with a rotary dial and narrowed the tunnel. Great review as always Doug.

  • @bsaget98
    @bsaget98 Год назад +14

    Thanks for keeping me informed in the car world Doug. I used to hate the new Supra but now I understand it.

  • @DanDuffy071
    @DanDuffy071 Год назад +442

    The manual transmission is exactly what this car needed to become one of the best sports cars of the modern era

    • @floof4444
      @floof4444 Год назад

      @@emilyhotxxx4402 Toyota. Now get out

    • @joemama38
      @joemama38 Год назад

      @EMILY HOTXXX toyota

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Год назад +7

      Yep, can't believe it didn't come with one at launch, but at least they did release one maybe it'll get them some extra sales, but it should have been earlier.

    • @allen9818
      @allen9818 Год назад +16

      Nah

    • @RedLP5000S
      @RedLP5000S Год назад +16

      Nope.

  • @Uh-huh-uh-huh
    @Uh-huh-uh-huh Год назад +86

    I wouldn't buy this car without the manual, so now that we have a manual I'll buy it, but I think I'll just go with the automatic (says most buyers)

    • @rudgerscumberland9837
      @rudgerscumberland9837 Год назад

      Yep. Bunch of HYPOCRITS

    • @-Wreckanize-
      @-Wreckanize- Год назад +24

      reminds me of people getting mad at companies for discontinuing wagon models but they only sold like 3 of them .

    • @rudgerscumberland9837
      @rudgerscumberland9837 Год назад +3

      @@-Wreckanize- Exactly. And it's like people gettin' mad at companies not makin smaller sized trucks, and gettin' mad at people gettin' full-size Body-on-frame trucks(and literally those types of vehicles been around for decades ). Yet ,when there is a time when the company releases the smaller size trucks, only a few is sold

    • @joshuaguevara1309
      @joshuaguevara1309 Год назад

      The company’s do it to themselves. So much mark ups for the cars we want

    • @zachary3777
      @zachary3777 Год назад +1

      @@rudgerscumberland9837 untrue. Smaller trucks would sell well. Regulations killed them.

  • @Castielj
    @Castielj Год назад +17

    I agree with Doug's comparison to the GM product strategy. Next year we'll see an available removable sport roof, then the following year maybe a tall MK4 reminiscent rear spoiler, then the following year in order to breathe new life into the model, a more powerful engine with a second turbo. Then and only then will car buyers feel they'll have all the features of the original MK4 Supra turbo.

  • @ericcarabetta1161
    @ericcarabetta1161 Год назад +38

    FINALLY, a manual. Now the ten people that have been clamoring for it can continue to not buy it while they complain about all the other cars that don't have a manual that they also won't buy.

    • @diegofkda199
      @diegofkda199 Год назад +7

      You're very wrong, they decided to do this because car dealers kept reporting clients asked for a manual version of this car.

  • @hunterphille1280
    @hunterphille1280 Год назад +74

    Finally! This thing is one step closer to stepping out of the shadow of the MK4! I love that blue. If I could snag one of these in this blue with a nice tan interior like the one in the manual limited edition that would be the MK5 I would want

    • @l04d83
      @l04d83 Год назад +7

      Stepping out of the shadow of the MK4 is gonna be near impossible, with how iconic, tunable and infamous the MK4 is.

    • @hunterphille1280
      @hunterphille1280 Год назад +3

      @@l04d83no kidding. I think that the manual is a positive step in that direction. I grew up with the real Supra, and my first real experience with them was a 1991 Supra Turbo

    • @fuxemup
      @fuxemup Год назад +12

      @@l04d83 b58's are becoming pretty iconic for how tunable and how much power you can squeeze out of it with a downpipe and tune, also reliability ive heard is one of the best in the BMW lineup.

    • @LouisSubearth
      @LouisSubearth Год назад +1

      @FuxEmUp yeah, Toyota did BMW a solid with stress testing the B58 for them, and BMW took those notes and applied them to all B58 equipped cars.

    • @Megasteel32
      @Megasteel32 Год назад

      @@fuxemup being the best in BMW reliability says nothing.

  • @anthonykhoury7388
    @anthonykhoury7388 Год назад +35

    This car isn’t the only b58 that is manual. 2018 340i comes in a manual

    • @Evan-ef3ol
      @Evan-ef3ol Год назад +11

      This is the only manual car with the gen 2 382 hp B58. Those year 340s have the gen 1 B58

    • @GamerMomentsToo
      @GamerMomentsToo Год назад

      Cool story

  • @jacobmeisner9255
    @jacobmeisner9255 Год назад +14

    The first generation accord in 1976 had an additional "5 speed" badge on them when you got the manual transmission. The 2 door hatchbacks were really great looking cars.

  • @ArthurZakaryan23
    @ArthurZakaryan23 Год назад +69

    Saw this color at the LA Auto Show yesterday and maybe it was just the hall lights but it looked really good. It's hard to unsee the fact that this is a Z4 with a Toyota shell over it but I can overlook that with how much better the Supra body looks over the Z4 and how good the car generally is as an all arounder.

    • @fxzn
      @fxzn Год назад +19

      calling this a z4 with a supra shell is still such a sin. the z4 and supra are two totally different cars in the way they drive. a bodykit does not change the way a car drives, so why do people call the supra a z4 with a different body? its a completely different experience.

    • @antriggs4190
      @antriggs4190 Год назад +7

      Yea, watch the comparison videos between the Z4 and the GR Supra. They are completely different cars and the Supra outperformed the Z4 in every category. They don’t even make the same amount of power with the same engine.

    • @GaryKetchum808
      @GaryKetchum808 Год назад +2

      @@antriggs4190 didn’t Toyota tune BMWs engine against their wishes and that’s why it makes more horse?

    • @jz7551
      @jz7551 Год назад +3

      Manufactured in the same plant as the Z4, same engine, same chasis. BMW interior and electronics.
      Even though this is not exactly a Z4, this car is still a BMW. Kudos to BMW for creating such a good, fun sports car

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious Год назад +3

      @@GaryKetchum808 No, BMW's contractor makes it. Toyota has no ability to tune it "against BMWs wishes."

  • @sambrown6426
    @sambrown6426 Год назад +43

    Earlier today, my neighbor across the street (who owns a stick shift WRX) asked me if I wanted to learn how to drive stick in his car, since neither of his kids want to learn. I quickly took him up on the offer, and I've already driven a vintage stick shift tractor once, so I at least know how to work a clutch. I'm looking forward to learning, and hopefully someday I'll be able to afford a big block 4-speed C3 corvette.

    • @oren6488
      @oren6488 Год назад

      That’s super cool! My dad taught me as a 12yr old on a Nissan Z. Good memories ❤

    • @sambrown6426
      @sambrown6426 Год назад

      @@oren6488 Neato! One thing I find funny about this whole thing though, is that there are 3 WRX's on my street. His is a completely stock 4th gen, another is (unfortunately) a riced Hawkeye with a straight-pipe and way to much turbo flutter, and the third is a bone-stock blobeye that I haven't seen move in years.

    • @oren6488
      @oren6488 Год назад

      Oh no 😂 What do you think about the power of the 4th gen?

    • @sambrown6426
      @sambrown6426 Год назад

      @@oren6488 Never even sat in it before, so I can't say much.

    • @oren6488
      @oren6488 Год назад

      Ahh

  • @sofiaestrada2419
    @sofiaestrada2419 11 месяцев назад

    Great review i have seen so far. now i feel content of getting it even adding that victor racing active on it to make it perform even better

  • @svang1991
    @svang1991 Год назад +1

    Been waiting forever for this review, Doug. Liked, now watching…

  • @theodor12
    @theodor12 Год назад +41

    This is the return of the E86 BMW Z4 Coupé 3.0Si manual. Love it!! It's pretty much the perfect sports car in my eyes.

    • @AnusIntruder
      @AnusIntruder Год назад

      lmfao

    • @fortheloveofnoise9298
      @fortheloveofnoise9298 Год назад +1

      except that it isn't a convertible.... every sports car should be or offer it as an option....no manual and no convertible= no buy...they fixed 1 issue...

    • @DragonKnightX12
      @DragonKnightX12 Год назад +3

      @@fortheloveofnoise9298It already exist, BMW Z4. Hard disagree, at least going full convertibles. Most cars that are intended to be coupes look ugly as rag tops, much better to buy a Roadster like the Z4 or Miata if you want a convertible that looks good.

    • @imrytebeehyneu
      @imrytebeehyneu Год назад +1

      Well, now we know it's a BMW than a Toyota

    • @xIcarus227
      @xIcarus227 Год назад

      @@fortheloveofnoise9298 why would Toyota make a convertible Supra when the Z4 is literally is the Supra's twin, just in roadster form?

  • @mikeritchie492
    @mikeritchie492 Год назад +5

    Love browsing cars and bids while watching your reviews. Save the manual.

  • @kudzaishemadanhire
    @kudzaishemadanhire Год назад +3

    That Caaars and Bid part always make me come back here😃😃😃

  • @rektbootcamp8577
    @rektbootcamp8577 Год назад +1

    This is the exact car I’m waiting for, placed my order april 18th

  • @scrws3050
    @scrws3050 Год назад +13

    What I have been waiting for Doug to do a full review on!!

  • @alexleung6754
    @alexleung6754 Год назад +4

    In the last 10 years i have been watching Doug's video and I am not sure if this is the video with the most "Damn". Love it.

    • @Viporghini
      @Viporghini Год назад

      Caught me off guard, too!

  • @MitchDore
    @MitchDore Год назад +3

    This is a DAMN good review 👍

  • @finn7530
    @finn7530 Год назад

    WOW. i commented on your old video if the supra was finally getting a drive, and then its here!

  • @t.j.higgins9939
    @t.j.higgins9939 Год назад +9

    When I was looking into getting a gr86 a few weeks ago one of the managers had purchased the A91 supra and let me take a look at it in the shop. It was the matte grey color and it is an awesome color in person with some silver flake and purple pearlescent. I didn't know at the time that there are only 500 of them!

    • @mikeroseberry6262
      @mikeroseberry6262 Год назад +1

      My 86 might not be as fast as your poopra but you can’t out handle me! I have had many fast cars n the past and my 86 gets ‘‘em every time especially in the corners!

    • @alejandrorivera5119
      @alejandrorivera5119 Год назад +4

      @@mikeroseberry6262 😂 yes it can bud

    • @mikeroseberry6262
      @mikeroseberry6262 Год назад +2

      @@alejandrorivera5119 haven’t found one yet!

    • @___DRIP___
      @___DRIP___ Год назад

      @@mikeroseberry6262Keep dreaming buddy. You need to stop listening to weeaboo myths

    • @Joe-vx8fd
      @Joe-vx8fd Год назад

      ​@@mikeroseberry6262 So u own a 200hp 10k car yet u call this a Poopra? lol if your too poor to afford one just say that

  • @Stuntman707
    @Stuntman707 Год назад +102

    It actually sounds really good, something to match the great styling.

    • @pixelnazgul
      @pixelnazgul Год назад +2

      Where are you from? Africa?

    • @sshahheydari
      @sshahheydari Год назад +8

      Great styling...???

    • @StenUustalu
      @StenUustalu Год назад +4

      I would want it if it weren't so damn ugly.

    • @bwofficial1776
      @bwofficial1776 Год назад +2

      @@pixelnazgul Why does it matter?

    • @shad3128
      @shad3128 Год назад +1

      @@StenUustalu the stylr hasnt grown on me tbh. So many people givd it a pass bc its speed but i really cant say it isnt an ugly car

  • @StockySnail
    @StockySnail Год назад +3

    The 2013 and up BRZ/FR-S/GT86/GR86 also shows which gear you're in on the manual transmission cars, but needs to be turned on in the menus. Super cool.

    • @heribertoigueldo24
      @heribertoigueldo24 Год назад

      My 2011 Audi S5 V8 6mt has it too. Does the BRZ recommended when to shift up/down?

    • @StockySnail
      @StockySnail Год назад

      @@heribertoigueldo24 Yes it has a recommended shifting time light.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад

      @@heribertoigueldo24 Saleen S7 also has 6 gear MT.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад

      @@StockySnail Saleen S7 and Audi TT also has 6 MT.

  • @zfloz9895
    @zfloz9895 Год назад +13

    I have drove the 2018 M2, with a manual gearbox and as you said, before that gearbox, I hated the BMW's manual gearboxes (so imprecise ). But the gearbox on the the M2, was the best I ever saw on BMW models. I remember also that I drove a E39 M5, with a manual, but hade a short shifter that changed things around. Maybe this "Toyota" got that M2 gearbox as well.

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude Год назад

      I owed an M2 and the transmission was just fine. Now, which BMW did you own, again?

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Год назад

      @@TucsonDude none...I'm not an azzhole

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude Год назад

      @@fzr1000981 ...or financially well off enough to own one, apparently.

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Год назад

      @@TucsonDude wrong again, just picked up 2023 RS3, sitting on 250k, no mortgage, plus investments. Hate most BMW owners and their "our cars are gold" attitude

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Год назад +1

      It's actually a different part. The M2 uses ZF GS6-45BZ. This should actually shift even better, it's a development of the older 53BZ.

  • @angelodi903
    @angelodi903 Год назад +164

    this car actually looks so darn stunning

    • @lotus20856
      @lotus20856 Год назад +8

      it really does

    • @FR0ZENxTUNA
      @FR0ZENxTUNA Год назад +11

      It's hard to look at this car in isolation considering it's heritage, but if you do, what you see is an absolutely gorgeous vehicle.

    • @ratuldeoun7228
      @ratuldeoun7228 Год назад +12

      This blue looks so good! 💙

    • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
      @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Год назад +4

      A two door, two seat front engine car always looks good. All the styling they did was to make it look worse, as it is totally overstyled.

    • @guycha0s380
      @guycha0s380 Год назад +8

      And b58 is better than jz too

  • @GandharKulkarni2000
    @GandharKulkarni2000 Год назад +3

    Doug's channel is really interesting in that his editing and shooting hasn't really become more fancy. I think it works very well for his content, because the channel runs on his personality with minimal editing.

  • @richardhetzel329
    @richardhetzel329 Год назад +1

    Sold my Supra 2.0 yesterday and bought a 2023 Supra 3.0 Premium MT. Can't wait!

  • @nondbfune9132
    @nondbfune9132 Год назад +35

    The next one must include a hand brake

    • @Canthev
      @Canthev Год назад +5

      I don't think I can in good-faith buy a manual that doesn't have a hand brake 😩

  • @bogusphone8000
    @bogusphone8000 Год назад +7

    As many others have stated, a car doesn't have to be fast, it has to feel fast. Who hasn't gotten into an underpowered car with great dynamics and had a blast? Putting the manual in brings the feel required of a great driver's car. Now, we just need them to be affordable (aka - Miata / RX).

  • @paddywiggle
    @paddywiggle Год назад +21

    The cool factor is way higher than a 6. I don’t care if it’s a BMW, every time I see it pass by it looks like a space ship and I can’t help but stare. At least 7/8 out of 10.

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 Год назад +7

    This 2023 Toyota Supra with 6-Speed MT is simply great to drive.

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Год назад

      Agree. Much better than 2002 RX-7.

    • @devon5078
      @devon5078 Год назад +3

      @@damarfadlan9251really odd comparison

  • @hunterharris5812
    @hunterharris5812 Год назад

    I love you Doug , ur literally my favorite car reviewer

  • @aevgarcia
    @aevgarcia Год назад +7

    Everyone forgets that the last generation 340i (F30 with B58) was offer limited with manual transmission (globally), which this manual is most likely adapted from. Probably not adapted from the Z4 base manual.

    • @liebo76
      @liebo76 Год назад +2

      Sedan, RWD and manual, my favorite combo.

    • @VictorEstrada
      @VictorEstrada Год назад

      Smh who cares where it's "adapted from". They most likely engineered it on its own, and those engineers are probably disappointed thinking, "are we a joke to y'all?" Just be glad that Toyota decided it build it.

    • @gearheadlydia
      @gearheadlydia Год назад

      This transmission is reportedly a combination of parts of other BMW transmissions cobbled together by Toyota for this application specifically.

    • @VictorEstrada
      @VictorEstrada Год назад

      @@gearheadlydia y'all don't get it. Manufacturers don't reinvent the wheel every time. They ALWAYS reuse the same parts from other manufacturers. They all use parts made by other companies like Bosch and Continental.

    • @eptdy
      @eptdy Год назад +1

      You're right. There's literally no change in this one and the one in the 340i and M3/M4.

  • @doggedlydetermined7022
    @doggedlydetermined7022 Год назад +9

    A lot of car for the money as these have always been. One of the best value for money performance cars around

  • @michaelscurr9046
    @michaelscurr9046 Год назад

    Doug your knowledge is endless❤

  • @joeysand2205
    @joeysand2205 Год назад +1

    i rented the 2.0 and that was enough to get me hooked. It handled the tight canyons like baby jesus would

  • @_J4CK4L_
    @_J4CK4L_ Год назад +3

    I got one, and it does have a red badge. It's a base model 3.0 MT 2023. Guess I got lucky?

  • @k.r.99
    @k.r.99 Год назад +25

    Car industry is listening to what is demanded but game developers don't at all. Such an interesting development.

    • @growingup4487
      @growingup4487 Год назад +17

      difference being people won't buy an uninteresting car but people will always buy a terrible video game

    • @k.r.99
      @k.r.99 Год назад

      @@growingup4487 true

    • @D3rpyD3su
      @D3rpyD3su Год назад +1

      @@growingup4487 Sad truth

  • @gregorymurphy9980
    @gregorymurphy9980 Год назад

    I bought a Fiat 124 spider with a manual transmission this past spring. It tells you on the dash what gear you're in. I never had that before in a car but I'm now a fan. Sometimes I need to be reminded when I'm distracted.

  • @WoozieGuy
    @WoozieGuy Год назад

    It is nice that the Supra GR MK5 comes in a manual stick shift as I also currently own a Mazda MX-5 Roadster that also comes in a manual stick shift and when I buy my second car, it won’t be stick as it would be mostly automatic with steering wheel paddles.

  • @aquaagu2
    @aquaagu2 Год назад +3

    This is still one of my favorite cars to come out in the past 10 years.

  • @audri6645
    @audri6645 Год назад +5

    Not only is it available without the need for modification, it would be a significant performance improvement. The next one must include a hand brake

  • @rockytagalidis6738
    @rockytagalidis6738 Год назад +2

    2023 matte white supra manual here! No regrets paying 5k over msrp! The color makes my Supra 100 times better than the standard colors.

    • @aylinc5621
      @aylinc5621 Год назад

      You paid 5 over in which state?

  • @robertallison9653
    @robertallison9653 Год назад

    @13:50 it's super sweet! The Dodge Stealth is a few steps ahead though. Twin Turbo, AWD, AWS, etc

  • @RohanSanjith
    @RohanSanjith Год назад +4

    Quick fact: The crankshaft of this 3.0 6 cylinder B58 Motor can handle upto a 1000 horsepower!!

    • @robbieshaft
      @robbieshaft Год назад +1

      Correct, the B58 is near perfect

  • @ALCONMAA
    @ALCONMAA Год назад +10

    What about wind buffeting (noise) when the windows are down? That was a chief complaint previously…

    • @seren1ty755
      @seren1ty755 Год назад +7

      This can be fixed with side mirror attachments

    • @_J4CK4L_
      @_J4CK4L_ Год назад +5

      Still there on my '23

  • @AntonBandermann
    @AntonBandermann Год назад +2

    Not into cars at all but it’s entertaining to watch him get so excited about something so silly as a car. Interesting looking BMW.

  • @ThomasFerrugia
    @ThomasFerrugia 7 месяцев назад

    @ 8:13. Very much so. When the car was launched, I remember at least one automotive journalist reporting that Toyota's product planners mapped-out an update schedule to help ensure sales remain consistent throughout the car's life-cycle.

  • @DR-UTAH
    @DR-UTAH Год назад +3

    This is something I am truly interested in. Thanks for the review

  • @grahammurphy5516
    @grahammurphy5516 Год назад +5

    The countdown to Dougcember is on.

  • @2bunphettered788
    @2bunphettered788 Год назад +1

    So you like it Doug!!😉👍

  • @Kayode1
    @Kayode1 Год назад

    Nice review..... Watching from NIGERIA 🇳🇬🇳🇬

  • @surfbumb123
    @surfbumb123 Год назад +4

    This Supra isn’t the only car with b58 and manual…the m240i with b58 did come with a manual as an option.

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. Год назад

      Gen 2 b58 vs the lower power Gen 1 b58. They aren't the same engine.

  • @ironwolf3699
    @ironwolf3699 Год назад +5

    Is it possible to turn off the automatic rev match? Like if I ever get one, I would like to rev match it my self.

    • @_J4CK4L_
      @_J4CK4L_ Год назад +4

      Yes :) in the Sport mode custom configuration, I think it calls it gear change assist or something.

  • @EmmettLBrown2015
    @EmmettLBrown2015 Год назад

    I love this channel!

  • @Misshifttv
    @Misshifttv Год назад +2

    I’ve got a 2018 340 with the same motor and the 6spd manual, definitely one of the best modern bmws

    • @claritymadeit
      @claritymadeit Год назад

      Sounds fun 😈

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад

      @@claritymadeit agree. Fun, but quite dull to drive with.

    • @Misshifttv
      @Misshifttv Год назад

      @@purwantiallan5089 it’s definitely the last thing from dull, I’ve got the track handling package plus all the m performance parts, makes for a damn fun car

  • @slipstream1284
    @slipstream1284 Год назад +5

    Everyone: Nah, just another z4
    Doug: Time to make the 4th review

  • @carlstanland5333
    @carlstanland5333 Год назад +4

    Anyone else notice Doug is always passing other cars on the freeway? 🚗💨

  • @russellhammond4373
    @russellhammond4373 Год назад +2

    Love your enthusiasm for the manual gearbox. I love stick shifts but harder to buy new in a country (Australia) where only 3% passengers cars have a clutch :-(

    • @BlackonBlackE46
      @BlackonBlackE46 Год назад +1

      about 13% in usa

    • @indigomizumi
      @indigomizumi Год назад +1

      I'm from Canada and it seems we're the same as the US when it comes to manual transmissions. They're an enthusiast option at best, if it's even an option at all.

    • @russellhammond4373
      @russellhammond4373 Год назад

      @@indigomizumi Toyota, Skoda, Nissan, VW, Audi, Subaru Ford and all the bloody French manufactures will not allow you to buy a standard passenger car with a clutch. Only sports cars (GR for Toyota) will allow you to get a 5 or 6 speed manual. You can buy a manual truck but I'm not talking about these vehicles.

    • @indigomizumi
      @indigomizumi Год назад +1

      @@russellhammond4373 Where I live we don't have Skoda or any mainstream French companies. And for trucks most of the pickups we get here only come with automatic transmissions. Not sure about larger commercial vehicles.

    • @russellhammond4373
      @russellhammond4373 Год назад

      @@indigomizumi Skoda = down market Audi / VW and mine is the Fabia which is a VW Polo or Audi A2 which don't go to America. Skoda have given up manuals and the 1 litre / 3 cylinder turbo so they jumped USD 6,000. So many automatics except for the cheapest Korean models. Shouldn't be this way.

  • @DubaiPsychologyRemo
    @DubaiPsychologyRemo 4 месяца назад

    I'm not even a car guy, I just love watching Doug and his enthusiasm.
    I think I'd continue watching even if he started reviewing sowing machines :)

  • @AbcdeFU66
    @AbcdeFU66 Год назад +10

    I hope that one day doug will mash all his supra videos into 1 video lol

    • @jiggnfm
      @jiggnfm Год назад +2

      I dont think theres been a car that doug has re-reviewed many times in this short amount of time!

    • @imrytebeehyneu
      @imrytebeehyneu Год назад

      Bot

  • @ttppro1985
    @ttppro1985 Год назад +4

    Can hear ur getting better with every upload Doug I mean you’ve sounded under the weather for the last couple of posts. I wish u a speedy recovery.

  • @craig8fs
    @craig8fs Год назад +2

    Wow I wish I was a little older now I could put money down to get one but I’m 17 with a rsx manual now so I’m pretty greatful hopfuly I can come across one of these one day

  • @KevinPon.
    @KevinPon. Год назад

    *Interesting to see so many Toyota's on the Doug Score*

  • @TheNotimprezed
    @TheNotimprezed Год назад +5

    I still regret not buying the leftover 2020 my dealership had. The power upgraded 2021 was on the way and the dealer had let this one sit in the showroom too long and were asking $46k, I think the sticker was $58k.

    • @Anthony-hd3yl
      @Anthony-hd3yl Год назад +2

      That's a steal. Then again I wouldn't get a 2020 unless you planned on tuning it straight away.

    • @TheNotimprezed
      @TheNotimprezed Год назад

      @@Anthony-hd3yl that's the rub, but cd testing has the 20 quicker to 60 by a tenth and slower in the 1/4 by a tenth. These are automatic GT street cars and the butt dyno can't feel the difference. 47 hp and limited performance difference did not justify and extra $12k on a 2021. At the time upgrading my family hauler to better accommodate our 3rd child took priority, then covid crushed the car market so a weekend car still waits.

  • @Southpark124
    @Southpark124 Год назад +3

    Doug…
    The M240i from 2018 has a B58 power train and a stick. I’m sure Toyota just used that and changed some minor things to adapt it.

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. Год назад

      That's the lower power Gen 1 B58 vs the higher power Gen 2 B58 in the Supra. They aren't the same engine.

    • @Southpark124
      @Southpark124 Год назад

      @@Cooe. The 2020 Supra has the 335 HP B58. It's a minor changes that get it to 382. You can get 380 whp on the gen 1 with just a flash tune.
      Both of them get to around 430-450 whp with just a downpipe. I made 435whp with my only mod being a downpipe and tune on a Gen 1 B58. A buddy of mine has a 2021 that can be flashed tune and he got the same exact whp with a downpipe.

  • @hardchemist
    @hardchemist Год назад +2

    While I absolutely adore the MT Supra and have been anticipating its arrival since notification, looking at your rating system I can't see how the Supra - in all its glory - has the same "value" score as the revised BRZ/GR86. The latter are continuously referenced as the finest inexpensive sports car(s) available today.

  • @ryansrides9714
    @ryansrides9714 Год назад

    Great video

  • @salsamike647
    @salsamike647 Год назад +26

    It's nice seeing Doug give this car so much praise and have such a big smile on his face. This is my number one dream car so seeing doug excited about it makes me even more excited :)

  • @jamescrugnale2763
    @jamescrugnale2763 Год назад +3

    Interested to see how these manuals hold up with tunes lol

  • @zebjangili4795
    @zebjangili4795 Год назад +1

    Ask Toyota extend the trunk opening. They can include part of the rear fenders

  • @revelare_xvii6269
    @revelare_xvii6269 Год назад +7

    This car is the closest thing we’ll ever get to the return of the Z4 M.

  • @HarukanoF20C
    @HarukanoF20C Год назад +13

    I want that car so bad! Like really that exact color, spec and everything... Ughhh what a killer car! It's just hard to justify spending 60k+ potentially 70k+ after dealer mark-up and taxes.... That's easily a house down payment and I live in hella expensive So-Cal... Sigh... Tried to get my hands on the GR Corolla when they first announced it too. I had 10k cash ready to reserve one. Then found out they were already spoken for and the dealers werent even guaranteed to get the spec you ordered. Then OF COURSE the dealer mark-up in so cal were setting these things in the mid 50k price range... For a corolla... I'm sorry but no... I'll keep my S4 for another long while and enjoy it whilst having a home to live in!

    • @noevalenzuela8355
      @noevalenzuela8355 Год назад +3

      If you actually live in SoCal, you'd know that we have several no-markup Toyota dealers. John Elway Toyota and Longo Toyota do not do markups. Order your car from them and stop complaining.

    • @Monkeyboy1995project
      @Monkeyboy1995project Год назад

      It truly is a JDM fans wet dream today. I'm working on my down payment for a gr86 later this year.

    • @Sarcastic_Asmodeus
      @Sarcastic_Asmodeus Год назад

      There are no markups in my area, but I live in Colorado. I paid off my RCF years ago but I am gonna hold on to the car for a while. Not liking where things are going, sadly. 😔

  • @jimmysway3240
    @jimmysway3240 Год назад

    I love how he mentioned the accord

  • @SupraSav
    @SupraSav 5 месяцев назад

    Love the curves on this car. So hard to find a manual in stratosphere blue right now.

  • @mikeburns3616
    @mikeburns3616 Год назад +8

    Honestly throwing in the tunability of the car is important. Downpipes, exhaust, tune and your immediately around 600whp. The b58 engine is super tunable for higher power. One of the few cars on the market that can do that for that cheap.

    • @BlackonBlackE46
      @BlackonBlackE46 Год назад +3

      people dont realize but the 2jz has been out for 30 years, there is a reason they are so tunable, its just been out for longer and more time to research it.
      The b58 is only 7 years old, I bet in 10 years there will be tons more 1000HP mk5 supras out and about.

  • @wetcoco
    @wetcoco Год назад +3

    I like Toyota, but I want "pure" Toyota, if I want a BMW I would buy one. Review it in a couple years, I would like to hear how many mechanical issues the owners had. As always, thanks for your reviews!

  • @faekz
    @faekz Год назад +1

    My sti shows which gear I'm in too it is useful sometimes

  • @aaronfraser2347
    @aaronfraser2347 Год назад

    I’ve always wanted one of these and now I want one even more 😩😩

  • @ARCarReviews5
    @ARCarReviews5 Год назад +3

    Honestly I really do love this car its growing on me, has good performance, and Toyota is tweaking it well. But I still cant fit into the driver seat...

  • @borkoniBG
    @borkoniBG Год назад +5

    Best looking BMW now with manual transmission 👏👏

  • @seadag
    @seadag Год назад

    The thing about the new Supra is it doesn't look great on paper. If you just read horsepower numbers and see it's an automatic you were probably like nah. I did that. It wasn't until Subaru discontinued the STI that I started looking around. I had my eyes on a Lexus IS 500 F Sport but those are pretty unobtainable. The dealers I talked to were telling me straight up, expect a big mark up. Then I called one dealer and he said he didn't have the Lexus but had a yellow Supra. I wasn't even going to go see it but once I went to go see it and couldn't unsee it. It is a beautiful car in person and blew my mind when I drove it coming from 20 years of Subaru WRXs and STIs. It was nice to be back in a RWD car after all this time, even if it was an automatic. Maybe I will go for the manual one day but this is my daily driver and its nice to have a break from the clutch leg in rush hour.

  • @vincent6863
    @vincent6863 Год назад +1

    Doug's shirt game is absolutely FIRE today

  • @marekmecir5822
    @marekmecir5822 Год назад +4

    Supra mk5 in manual is pretty easily my dream car ❤️ the design. The engine (modern 2jz)..power, manual..epic