Hello Glenn....my husband's name is Glenn too =) Thanks for this review, it was very informative as my little pug is on a similar flavour, Science Diet Small Paws. I was feeding him raw and The Honest Kitchen before, but he is so much healthier now. His coat is much softer, his stool is healthier and he has no more refluex issues!! I will never go back to feeding raw again. I took my cats off of it too. I have to say though, as a vegan, when I open up the bag of Science Diet and get a very strong whiff of the chicken smell.....it's really gross and reminds me of how my mother-in-laws house smells at Christmas....not appetizing to me lol!! Have a great weekend, enjoy your two sweet furbabies!!
Thanks for writing! I appreciate it! I was named after Glenn Miller. Most Glenn’s I meet have only one N. Sorry the smell bothers you. I do think my formula smells like egg but maybe that’s just me.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy yes, my husband is Glenn with 2 Ns also. Thanks, it's ok about the smell, I have had to adapt as my family eats meat so I have to smell it all the time lol
@TJ-kz1ul Glenn is a fool with a long history of propping up pet food corporations. Plenty of unbiased research out there to read that contradicts PetFool guy. Just gotta poke around!
I'm new here so please forgive me if this has been discussed prior to. Could you please do a review on Hill's perfect digestion and Pro Plan sensitive stomach? Canine diets I work in Vet Med (since 1989 LOL) and I know these are two good diets I would just like your take on both nutrient wise. Thank you. I really enjoy your channel!
Thank you again Glen for this interesting video. I would like to know where you get the nutrient levels in grams/mg from? On my SD bags for my cat and dog, the levels are shown in %, as well as on the Hill's website. It's hard to compare one with the other. Thanks!
Vaughn, that’s understandable but consider this. Hills has been making diets for 75 years. The most comprehensive therapeutic line and a wellness line. That’s millions of pounds of lots of different foods and ingredients. The 2019 recall was inexcusable. We trusted a very reliable supplier from Tx. The wrongly certified mix was shipped to Hills but could have been shipped to any company. The affected food was just cans, no dry and no cat food at all. It represented 5 % of their product at the time. As tragic as it was , most pets had little reaction to the excessive vitamin D. I had 110 vet clinics at the time and had no deaths. Vets trusted Hills before the recall and continue to trust them. I try to be as fair and objective on my channel just showing nutrient levels and explaining misleading marketing. I know the nutrients Hills provides are the healthiest so I feed it. And after such an event, I have to believe Hills will be much more careful. But one major recall in 75 years is pretty good! And a company saying they’ve had no recalls means little to me. How many companies just don’t check? I am more interested in why the recall and how did they handle it.
Two of my dogs were sickened with the vitamin d excess because I was feeding hills canned adult, and rx to them. They both began having odd urinary symptoms and were just acting off. Thankfully they were ok once we got them off the food and hills paid for all related vet bills to get them feeling better. That said, every time I try hills foods I like them and the dogs do quite well. Glenn got me thinking about nutrients several years ago, sharing his knowledge on a dog message board. I am grateful for these videos still, helps us see thru the marketing bull and give the best we can to our pups.
So in your opinion, do you think these companies employee board certified veterinary nutritionists to formulate these diets with excessive minerals and proteins? I think not
If she’s been diagnosed with arthritis I would use the Prescription Diet Mobility Small Bites. As I said in the video it’s a great senior nutrient profile too. Good luck!
I would suggest feeding egg shell membrane, canned sardines in water, raw chicken necks. A great supplement is Jump for joints from Adored Beast Apothecary.
@@sitherapy5 I would suggest you watch my video on Prescription Duet Mobility to get a better understanding of managing arthritis with diet. You’re in the right track though.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy this will be my last comment because I don’t want to continue to give your channel undeserved attention. Your message is archaic and shouldn’t be seen. Kibble was a trend born out of convenience. Now that we’ve seen our canines health declining it’s time to look at what we’ve been doing to cause that. I would be happy to watch your videos if you actually had responses that made sense. Your Hill’s claims are not even what the company claims 🤦♀️ I suggest you read/watch/listen Dr Connor Obrady Dr Ian Billinghurst Dr Judy Morgan. And obviously Dr Becker. Just to name a few. Susan Thixton would also teach you a lot. These pet wellness heroes can help PREVENT your dog from unnecessary suffering. Simply by eating real food. If I cooked my dogs food then I would be able to eat it and thrive. If you ate kibble you’re going to feel sick. Like your protein deficient, chronically dehydrated poor pup.
That's my favorite video! I'm so glad your dogs have perfect test results at their age! It's really interesting to me that you haven't switched them to senior vitality which I know isn't necessary anyway. I would love to know more about the research behind senior vitality. I haven't been able to find in depth information on Hill's website.
Thanks George. Ya know, Senior Vitality came out and I was too busy with Prescription Diet activities in my clinics to have time to look at it. Personally, it seems Hills has perhaps a few too many senior diets, especially for cats, but it is def an area where Hills is superior over other brands. I do need to look into it though!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I feel like because the senior life stage is not well defined, every brand has its own philosophy: some say the diet should not be high in calories so that to avoid obesity, others say it should be high in calories since aging cats lose their sense of smell and have decreased appetite, some say it should have low phosphorus levels etc..
@@George.JI was talking with a nutritionist yesterday and he was saying almost the same thing. Until AAFCO comes up with senior parameters it’s easy for food companies to even take a puppy food and call it Senior. But your point is true. A Senior food needs to lower phosphorus but it would be good to have a low calorie version and a high calorie version. You basically see that with Senior cat foods low in fat but when dealing with a cat with kidney disease (and getting thin) the fat goes up.
I recently went back down the dog food rabbit hole after feeding Nutisource to my girl for several years and so glad to have discovered both your and Dr Rea’s channels, I’m finding them both so helpful and informative! I originally chose Nutrisource after hours of online reading, mostly on dog food advisor and analyzing ingredients (sigh), it was a local to me company in MN, and ultimately my vet at the time said that’s what she fed her dog. I wish that information about how to truly assess dog food, read labels, and understand the nutrients was information that is more readily available to pet parents who are just trying to do the very best for our babies! Looking back I had no idea what to look for or where to even begin, and definitely had negative bias toward the “big” brands. I’m strongly considering switching to Hills because the science and research done to back it up is very important to me and of course the nutrient levels- from the info I’ve seen it seems that in general Hills is closest to the recommended nutrient levels than other brands by far. I’m wondering about the AAFCO statements- in reviewing some Hills varieties it seems like many of them do state “formulated” vs tested. With Hills having such a reputation for research, is it safe to assume that the evidence is there to back it up even if the AAFCO statement says formulated? Also, I’m interested in your thoughts on why calcium and phosphorus levels aren’t printed on bags or at least more readily available on company’s websites, given how vital they seem to be to a pet’s health? Thank you so much for your videos!
My beagle Bella has been on Hills GastroBiome for 3 years. She refuses to touch it now and I've noticed a lot of the kibble is dark and looks burned. What have they done to change the kibble. Why can't they make prescription food that is palatable so you don't have to add a topper to try and make your dog eat it? Sounds like to me you still work for Hills.
Donna, Hills, like most companies, don’t use artificial coloring do’s some batches could look a little different. Does Bella still need the Biome diet? Hills makes a Science Diet Perfect Digestion which is extremely similar with the same prebiotics. Might have a little different toast and way less expensive. Nope, I don’t work for Hills anymore. Retired 2 years in July. I have a 16 yr old Bella!
I have a senior dachshund and a 9 month old dach , Im always worried about fat content, because I had a dach that passed from pancreatitis, can you review Nutri source
Dietary fat is the primary energy source in a diet. The idea is to match up the correct fat level to the energy needs of the dog, so you’re feeding a normal amount.
Thanks Sharon. Canned costs about 3times more to feed and obviously isn’t as convenient. There is no dental benefit to dry over canned. That myth has been destroyed by tons of solid research, just good marketing by Milkbone! If a cat or dog is prone to urinary stones canned really is beneficial. With kidney issues true as well. But there’s no real proven benefit if either of those conditions are not present. Hope that helps.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy For cats, wet is better, because most cats don't drink enough water. A certain veterinarian feeds Hill's wet k/d to the cats kept at her animal hospital.
You find an answer to why cancer, please let the world know. We’ve all listened too many good people and dogs to cancer. Our Berner was a month short of 13 when she was diagnosed with cancer. The other 4 are extremely common indeed but those conditions can also be managed and signs relieved by kibble as well. I guess you believe feeding unprocessed food will prevent these? Again, would love a real answer to cancer. Obesity is caused by consuming too much fat, carbs calories. One could do that with any form of food. Same with diabetes, though very different for cats vs dogs. Are you suggesting fresh food won’t produce plaque on teeth? Not aware of such a claim. And skin allergies are more often environmental than food, and when it is food it’s the protein source. If a dog is allergic to chicken, fresher chicken is no less an allergen than chicken meal. I’m all for feeding fresh if you prefer but you need to get a real recipe from a qualified nutritionist. And you don’t have to demonize commercial food when there’s no reason.
Spot on Glenn. Plus all those things people get too and a lot of times comes with age. Dogs are living longer, unlike what some want you to believe and with the age increase comes more possibility of disease. Plus genetics and overbreeding plays into this
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy my dogs health was declining on kibble he had horrible skin and rashes all over his body and he had allergies once i started feeding raw all those issues went away and his poops have been alot better
No. You are trusting the food company to balance the vitamins. Something like C, which they will simply pee out the excess, but most likely you’re just producing expensive urine! Probiotics are great quick bandaids for short term diarrhea but for chronic gut health the diets designed to nourish the micro biome naturally make more sense, like Science Diet Perfect Digestion
I have a QUESTION?? I was told the ingredient lists are written when they're raw & then most heaviest ingredients goes first, then ingredients keep going to least ingredient & when you see "Salt" salt can NOT be more then 1% so any ingredients after the salt are all under 1%, this is when you normally see the more expensive ingredients like Blueberries, Vitamin A, E, Probiotics etc etc because you don't get as much. Isn't this correct?? Orijen does alot of Ingredient splitting with their meats but its good you see all the meats names on paper instead of just seeing Ocean Fish Meal. Its probably alot of By Product fishes all cooked together, then Orijen spilt them all up, but this is way too many Ingredients for my girl Orijen Six Fish- Ingredients List Whole atlantic mackerel, whole atlantic herring, whole atlantic flounder, whole acadian redfish, atlantic monkfish, whole silver hake, mackerel meal, herring meal, blue whiting meal, herring oil, whole green peas, whole navy beans, whole red lentils, alaskan cod meal, pollock meal, sunflower oil, whole yellow peas, whole pinto beans, whole chickpeas, whole green lentils, lentil fiber, natural fish flavor, safflower oil, freeze-dried cod liver, whole pumpkin, whole butternut squash, kale, spinach, mustard greens, collard greens, turnip greens, whole carrots, whole apples, whole pears, dried kelp, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, zinc proteinate, mixed tocopherols (preservative), copper proteinate, chicory root, turmeric, sarsaparilla root, althea root, rosehips, juniper berries, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried bifidobacterium animalis fermentation product, dried lactobacillus casei fermentation product.
I doubt I am the first to point this out, but there doesn't appear to be another pet nutritionist or nutrition site who shares your dog nutrition opinions. First, they'd never feed Science Diet. They tend to favor making their own fresh dog food first, followed by freeze and air dried foods ahead of any kibble. Secondly, their ideal kibble ratio seems to be 30% protein, 20% fat, 30% carbs, and 5% fiber. I assume the remaining percentage is moisture and binding agents. Third, none favor synthetic vitamin additions or any meal type over real meat. Fourth, the ratio of calcium to phosphorus is said to be the important factor (1.2:1 to 2:1). And finally, for fun, I looked up the calcium and phosphorus in Alpo (yuck!) and found it to be 1% and 0.8% respectfully - which I don't know how to translate into numbers, but sounds low to me. So, are they all wrong?
Ted, that’s for the insightful comment. You are absolutely spot on with your observations! I retired from 34 years training vets and their teams on therapeutic and wellness nutrition. I stumbled across RUclips trying to do all those home projects I never had time for so of course had to put in Pet Food. As you said, it was all self pressed nutrition experts spouting some of the most absurd comments. I am very tech challenged but felt compelled to counter some of it. To your point, none of those folks would feed Science Diet. It’s against their philosophy they so believe in and they have been sucked into decades of pet food marketing being perfected. But they aren’t nutritionists and the vets you see are selling products! Like $49 or even $50 a lb foods!!!!! Yet if you talk to real nutritionists and the practicing veterinarians who see pets every day and see the results of all kinds of foods ( and do have access to peer reviewed studies) the majority feed Hills, and many RC or Purina. That’s why the people on RUclips will tell you vets are either just pushing food for profit or vets are stupid and don’t know better. I actually did find a few really good channels and some misc videos by real nutritionists and of course they share a very different perspective. Most vets disagree with home cooking and raw for a few good reasons. You mentioned their ideal ratios. A nutritionist would ask for the real data as to why that ratio is best, rather than considering what a wolf eats. And yes, as you saw, percentages are very hard to evaluate which is why I only do actual nutrient levels, grams or milligrams per 100 kcal’s. So I hope you’ll watch a few more videos and let me know what you think. If you can look at my subscriptions you’ll see those few vet channels that are really excellent so you know I’m not making things up! lol! Thanks again!
I don’t know how this channel came to my feed. First I assumed it was videos from some retired RUclips channel ..because who else would be putting out such ludicrous info this day and age!
@@sitherapy5 lol! Well, I retired just over a year ago so I guess I’ll start getting out of date but up until then I was being trained by board certified vet nutritionists and had access to all the newest canine and feline nutrition science. Sounds like maybe you’ve been exposed to more marketing than nutrition.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy yea!!! Damn those vets always supporting grocery stores, local butchers, ethnic markets and farmers markets. I’m sure every time I buy beef chunks, kidney, liver, testes, and organic veggies those vets are making a killing. Those darn vets always trying to make money off telling us to make our own food at home. Who do they think they are?! 🤣
@@sitherapy5 well, the ones I see are promoting their books, getting interviews, selling therapeutic diets with wonderful ingredients for $39.99 a pound, etc, …. And not one of them is a credentialed nutritionist. You are a very passionate person. I appreciate that. You want to feed fresh food and I have no problem with that. But notice how the marketers can’t just motivate you to feed their way, buy their recipes, their books, their foods even, but have to fill your head with lies about the pet food industry. And trust me. Been around d vets for 34 years. As corporate Mars buys up the clinics and takes over, some vets will opt for the all natural holistic approach just to differentiate themselves and make money. Oh but that’s right! Vets don’t know anything about nutrition and are just out to make money in animals. Ps I am intrigued with@sitherapy5 name!🙂
BUT Hills Salt is HIGH -70, does that matter ao Im new is this high for salt??🤔🤔 Orijen Phos is low for the amount of protein in their kibbles, I thought it would have been heaps higher, you dont want high Phos, very high phosphorus diet can cause Hyperphosphatemia & can damage dogs Bones, Kidneys, Heart.. So really Orijen isnt that bad out of the 3 formula's, It's the Wellness can do damage if feed long term... This is where Rotating your pet food is good, your dog is dodging a bullet if you change between a few different dry food & rotate. I like Rotating my kibbles with the Seasons, Fish In Summer, Lamb in the Winter, then Pork, Chicken & Turkey leaner white meats in the other 2 seasons...
Yannaren, good question! Senior diets are great, though very few are actually designed that way. A senior food generically. Addresses the most common age related diseases such as kidney and heart disease, calcium oxalate crystals, obesity. So since my girls age would indicate a senior food, I did blood work to see how she’s doing internally. Since her liver and kidneys are perfect, obviously the controlled protein and minerals is working for her but Senior would be lower in calories and she’s thin with a lousy appetite so her current food should be appropriate a little longer. I am actually switching ZuZu to Prescription Diet JD, Hills diet for arthritis. She doesn’t have clinical arthritis but has had weird orthopedic tendencies since we rescued her as a puppy to I’m trying to get ahead of it. And the lower calories will help her lose a little weight. So to get back to your original question, there are many active healthy digs that will never need the specifics of a senior food…. Though I did a video on Senior foods and most don’t even resemble senior nutrition at all. Thanks for asking!
Got it. Thanks for explaining to me. My girl is 8, I wasn’t sure if I should feed her different food than my 6 yo dog. What you said make sense, next vet visit I will ask for blood work to see if she needs to be on different type hills.
HELP! 3 months ago, switched our 12 year old Coton, from mix of Freshpet beef/Fromm kibble(she had been on that for years), to Farmer's Dog. Biggest mistake ever(we think). She developed terminal itching. Have had her off Farmer's for 6 weeks, & 3 vets later. Been on Apoquel, no help. Have tried minimizing the Freshpet with a different kibble, Open Farm beef. Still no help. Was thinking of trying one of the "hyrdolized protein" kibbles. Have any suggestions? Thank you.
Wow! That’s pretty strange. And the Apoquel didn’t help? There is an injection Cydopoint (spelling is probably wrong) that many vets swear by.. but yes, ZD is an excellent hydrolyzed diet and perfect for a 12 year old as far as senior nutrients. If your vet is suspecting environmental allergens Hills makes Derm Complete. It isn’t hydrolyzed but uses just egg protein, which most dogs aren’t allergic to, and an antioxidant package to help the body’s immune response normalize. Has there been any environment change she could be reacting to? Btw, all dogs are different but beef is one of the highest allergens for dogs. Sorry, I know how frustrating it is. I’d get her off any other food and try one of those.
Awww sorry to hear ably your little ones diet change issues. Also you can try talking to your vet about allergy testing thru VDI ( trusted veterinary lab) May help to get to root of your sweet pet sensitive. I’m a vet tech in MD and these tests have helped us help our sensitive patients. Along with using Cytopoint in some cases. ☺️
First of all, I'm so happy to find your channel -- there are so many self-proclaimed experts out there spreading misinformation, so it's refreshing to get "back to basics" so to speak and do better for our dogs. I'm in the process of switching my two dogs -- a beagle puppy and a 7-year-old dachshund mix -- over to Science Diet formulas appropriate for their size/age. I also wondered if you might cover how to go about evaluating wet dog food? Thanks!
Evaluating a food usually means calling the company. The Guaranteed Analysis is sadly just minimums and maximums. You can compare nutrients in an As Fed basis, which are the actual amount shut with the moisture included. Different moisture levels skew the numbers a bit. Dry matter basis removes the moisture for better accuracy but foods still could differ in calorie count so percentage again is affected a little. That’s why my reviews are done in per 100 kcals basis. How much of the nutrient per calorie is most accurate. AnimalDocRea is a vet with a great channel who has a video on the math no remove the moisture from cans and get the dry matter numbers. Hope that long description helps!
Can someone teach me how to calculate these nutrients levels from the info provided on kibble bags? I’d like to be able to compare more brands. Maybe this could be an idea for a future video?
Unfortunately the bag is designed to keep you in the dark with just minimums and. Maximums. Some companies can give you percentages on an As Fed basis but that includes the moisture, which varies with diets. The Dy Natter percentage is more accurate, removing the moisture, some companies will have that. My comparisons are all in grams per 100 kcals, the most accurate way. Sadly, when I call companies, too many don’t even know what I’m talking about. So calling or emailing, as Dr Rea does. Very few list it on their websites.
Do you have a specific brand and flavor in mind? Maybe Glenn or Dr. Rea have already reviewed it. As Glenn said, if it is not on the website, you have to email the company. So far, all of them I have contacted have replied. Most are over the limits, listed in the Small Animal Clinical Nutrition book, for calcium and phosphorus.
Add up all the numbers from the guaranteed analysis and then subtract that number from 100. That will give you the percentage of carbohydrates in the food. Studies have determined that dogs do best with 7%-20% carbs. Science diet is 60% carbs. Which is unfortunately not uncommon. Carbs turn into sugar. Sugar turns into yeast. It’s no wonder why skin issues are the number one reason dogs are taken to the vet. That also includes ear infection. The reason they have so many carbs is because starch is far cheaper than quality protein.
@@sitherapy5 well, not exactly. The guaranteed analysis is minimums and maximums rather than real numbers. I did a video on how little it really tells us. (Which is why the industry likes it!) I’m not sure many board certified nutritionists would agree on the 7 to20% carb level. I’ll trust you that SD is 60%. I’ll also trust the nutritionists there! You are being a bit simplistic that carbs = sugar= yeast= skin issues. Veterinary dermatologists would tell you food allergies are mostly caused by proteins. Your comparison of cheap starches to quality proteins makes no sense. Protein provides amino acids. Carbs, depending on the source, provide energy, vitamins and minerals, fatty acids, and dietary fiber. Comparing the two is irrelevant.
Getting ready to put my small breed dog on the hills sensitive stomach and skin. She really only needs the sensitive stomach but the perfect digestion is out of my budget. She has done really well on Science Diet adult so hoping for similar results on the sensitive stomach formula. Thanks for the review!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy you don’t feed a senior formula? I have a dog with super sensitive skin who is 10 years old. Would like to keep her on SD but they don’t make a senior sensitive skin formula.
@@sincere355 if Bella's bloodwork was starting to inch up I would start switching but I know the Sensitive Stomach has very healthy mineral levels so for now I'm comfortable staying on it. That's why senior blood work is so helpful. Some pets may never get to a senior food, especially if they stay really active.
Hi Glenn!!! I have been viewing and reviewing your videos all day today since I found you this morning. After all day I decided into getting this food too. To my surprise at petsmart website they are showing there is a new recipe with new ingredients for this food that you just reviewed. So now we need a new review :( Is there a chance you can look into the new recipe and see if it still has same results on calcium and phosphorus as the old recipe? Thanks so much!!! Because I'm now more confused than before.
This is quite interesting. Are you aware of the difference between feed grade and human grade ingredients? Would you rather consume a cow that died from cancer and rotted away in the field or a cow that was slaughtered then immediately processed for consumption? Do you stay away from fresh, unprocessed foods so you can live a long, healthy life? Would you prefer to have a variety of different flavors, textures, and nutrient profiles or would you be fine with only different types of dry cereal and water? Eating and feeding fresh food isn’t a trend.. it’s just common sense. You don’t have to work in the pet industry to know this. Most people from all different professions and walks of life are aware that processed food should limited or eliminated.
Well, you are mistaken if you think all feed grade food is 4D meat (dead, diseased, dying, disabled). It simply means it is not under FDA observance. You are referring to the worst stuff allowed, not the norm. And what good is human grade ingredients if the nutrients delivered are excessive and imbalanced? That’s what determines nutritional value. As far as processed foods, I just did a video on that topic. The mistake you’re making is you are comparing human processed foods which are just convenient and designed to taste good, but offer harmful ingredients including sugar, synthetic flavoring and coloring, unhealthy fats, high salt, etc. The process of making a dry of canned pet food, formulated by top vet nutritionists, delivering optimal nutrients is not the same thing at all. The point is what is the Purpose of the processing. Anyone in the pet food industry telling you feeding kibble is like feeding McDonalds to your pet is either misinformed (most likely) or lying to you, usually to sell you something. You should watch the video!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy the FDA approves of the 4Ds going into pet food. Plus many other absurd waste products. The USDA does not allow 4D meat. Reputable companies can prove they use USDA facilities yet Hills does not have any such info available on their website or over the phone. Believe me sir I am informed and am not mistaken that real food provides nutrients for myself and my beloved pets. It’s not rocket science.. I don’t understand your logic. You believe that just because some people don’t properly inform themselves on how to feed raw that means dogs do better on kibble? So if some parents decided to feed their children only fruit; does that mean everyone should only feed their kids Cheerios? 🤔 Funny that you mention sugar since this food is literally 50% carbs. Did you realize that the body turns carbs into sugar? Perhaps thats why our poor pups deal with so many dental issues, diabetes and obesity. The majority of this research is finding how cheap they can make food without any immediate adverse effects. Just because a company spends millions on research does not mean that is for the consumers benefit. They spend far more money on marketing than they do sourcing quality ingredients. I recommend people do their research and make their own ..it’s not hard. Well, it’s not hard for people who understand we’ve been getting nutrients from food for ….awhile now 😆
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuyThank you for sharing this. I was feeding I a sand was feeling guilty for not buying the fresh food or more expensive kibble. If you think I am sis ok, then I will go back to it. I have been feeding my Yorkie and cats Blue Buffalo. Is it any better than Iams? Should I go to SD? They have no issues.
I LOVE your videos, but I have to disagree "Royal Canin" - Europe in my opinion is heaps better then Hills.. When I go to my vets, which is monthly, my vet practice is a very busy vet practice, they have about 6 vets working there, all I see is what Hill is sponsoring at my vets, all the vets wear the nice Hills vet blue uniforms, the "We are Open" sign out the front is a Hills signs, even the dry/wet food shelving thats lites up is Hills shelving, Royal Canin doesn't have their own shelving, my vet practice must either sell alot of Hills vet formula's or we have a rep who likes to give away alot of Hills stock? I think its a waste of Hills money, Glen can you answer why do Hills sponsor some vet practices more then other vet practices?? are their Hills sale up & higher then other vet practices or are the vets at my vet practice nice to the rep & he's nice back & gets them nice new Hills shelving, etc etc..I know my vet does talk with the Hills rep because when Hills Biome vet diet came out my vet said I'll be seeing Hills Rep this week & I will ask him these questions you have just asked me.. It's ashame, i'd rather see Hills reduce their prices so more dogs can benefit from Hills or sponser rescue dogs to get them free training, so they cat get adopted & have a better start in their new homes, this would be something where we really see where Hills money is being spent. This made me wonder "Why doesn't Royal Canin have their own pet food shelving, "Vet is open" signs, vet clothes?" 🤔 I think Royal Canin puts their money back into more studies, more research & has better quality dehydrated meats.. Don't get me wrong, Im NOT a Hills hater, over the years I have had 2 sick rescue Staffys who suffer with Stomach, Bowel & Skin problems, when buying pet foods it is very hard, I know straight away when the quality isnt good, you start to see which Pet Food brands seem to help & work better for your sick pets, even my vet has comment a few times, how she sees really good results with Royal Canin vet diets, I've been the same, I've seem results with Royal Canin. My new Rescue is on Hills Z/d for her skin & coat at the moment the Z/d seems to really helps her stomach, reduced her grass eating, so I dont hate Hills its been a life saver for some pets. Im just saying what I've seen over the years. also Royal Canin Europe we get in Australia have gone 1 step further & they use Dehydrated meats instead of meat meals, meat meals are cooked & cooked at very high temps in the end there's no flavour in the meat, no vitamins, all the nutrition has been cooked away... In my Opinion out of all the pet foods- Royal Canin-Europe wins hands down & is a better quaility pet food, it's more palatable for Cats & Dogs, fussy eaters love their Royal Canin so they're doing something right. Royal Canin is best selling pet food in Australia. Royal Canin USA is totally different to the Europe Royal Canin & its ashame for the American pets, Royal Canin USA isnt imported to Australia, UK or other countries as we all have very strict import laws & the Pet Food compaines MUST write on import forms where ALL their ingredients are source from & must make changes if they want their pets to come into Australia or other countries..
Wow! That’s quite a post! I’m impressed with RC Europe. Here in the states I think Hills has a clear leg up on RC, especially in urinary, renal and obesity, and though they do great with GI I think Hills new microbiome diets have really moved the needle further. I wanted to answer your question about hills signage and shelving. Here in the states you will find RC shelving everywhere, especially in the Mars owned hospitals. As a rep I would get an allocation of racks for my territory. Usually that was annually. It might be a few dozen every other year for my 110 hospitals. Obviously, if a vet starts moving more diets they have an issue of space. As a rep I would decide who gets them. RC , more than Purina, have all the Open signs, weight scale mats, counter mats, wall clocks. I honestly can’t even guess who’s paying for more or less. But let me copy something I wrote in another post here. The real question should be What does the company do with the money they make from their profits. Are they just in it for big money and really don’t care about pets? If you combined the amount of money Hills, Purina and RC have spend on research over the decades, (over 7 decades for Hills) it has to be hundreds of millions. Colgate just built Hills a $22 million dollar research facility addition to focus on small breed nutrition. They have perhaps the largest feeding program across the country feeding humane societies, over 100,000 pets a day. For decades Hills has paid for urinary stone analysis at MN Urolith Center, so vet clinics across the country can send the stones there for free and the data can be collected and help in research. Hills pays for every one and most vets don’t even know it. Hills started and still helps fund the Morris Animal Foundation, a premier organization doing pet research. I see food companies talking about how lean pets live an average 2 years longer than obese pets. That was an excellent study done and paid for by Purina. No one mentions that. Colgate has owned Hills for almost 50 years. Yet they never forced Hills to put Science Diet in grocery stores and mass produce it. And I have seen many studies conducted by RC as well, now funded by a candy company. And look at the results of the research done by these companies, managing so many diseases that were stealing time with our furry family members. Yet they are perceived as greedy conglomerates selling awful food and making a fortune. Yet somehow small companies, with no research, no nutritionists, they’re making food out of the goodness of their hearts and not for profit. But………. The fact Mars is buying up multiple brands is not concerning, but they are buying the entire vet profession. They have bought so many vet clinics, and labs, and specialty hospitals that they soon will have total control. Vets will have to perform procedures based on the corporate policies and recommend drugs or diets based on corporate as well. Then I do believe money will take over, much like the human medical care. And at this point, no one can stop them. Sorry for my pessimism but it’s one of the reasons I retired. Hated seeing the changes.(and I’m old and tired!) And lastly, the cooking of meat meals is not destroying all the nutrients. That’s just marketing. But thank you for taking the time to write! I appreciate it!
I think people lose sight of in this whole pet food argument is their pets. That raw is better or kibble is better i think as long as your pets are healthy thats all that matters no matter what you're feeding
The simple fact is that there are awful raw diets fed to pets and awful kibble diets fed to pets…. And vice versa. It is impossible to judge categories.
I think it's a symptom of a larger or broader attitude of people nowadays, thinking that your pup's diet should reflect something about you other than an informed decision (or rather, what elements are in fashion to appear to be informed).
Happy Feline Friday! I never had a doubt that you feed Hill's kibble. LOL All kidding aside, this is one of your best videos. I really enjoyed watching. But what fun is it, if I don't kid you? "Recipe" means there is between 25% to 94% meat, weight before cooking. Regarding corn, "So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. He longed to fill his stomach with the HUSKS that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything." The pigs ate it all! LOL Still not feeding corn or other grains to my cats. Your dogs are cute, by the way.
Yes, Zoe also mentioned that 25% rule! Darn, the Prt Food Puzzle Guy doesn’t know everything? (He just thinks he does.). I thought this one was too long so glad you liked it. So is the pig story out of the Parodical Son? Well, I have coined a new phrase! Cats are Cornivores! Because while they need meat protein, they also can utilize corn! Yes, my girls are so darned cute! They have me wrapped around their paws!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Yes, the Prodigal Son. It was part of the sermon at my grandkids' school Mass Wednesday. I like that you talk about your personal life. Cornivores, very funny. I guess we have to have something to disagree about. LOL My grandson who has bonded with my cats is here for the weekend. They love having him here. You have a good weekend!
Let me rephrase that statement. Chicken meal can be junk or it could be high quality. Just like by products could be junk or could be high quality organic meat. Fresh meat can be junk like 4D meat or it could be human grade. The only way of knowing is looking at the minerals in each. If high, that means it contains none, hair, hoof, feathers, dirt, etc. so you definitely can have a chicken meal that is higher quality than fresh chicken. A meal is also much more concentrated than fresh meat on a lb for lb basis. You are listening to the Ingredientists playing with ingredient definitions rather than nutritionists looking at nutrients delivered. Does that clarify my statement?
I was fooled too by the negative information on kibble. I bought into the fear mongering and was afraid to use any kibble. Then I did my own research. Glen is telling the truth. It’s not that you can’t make healthy meals for your pet, it’s just that most pet owners do not want to spend the money, time or effort. And kibble fits for them. Kibble is not the devil’s biscuits. It’s just a way for people to conveniently get the proper and balanced nutrients into their dog. My doctor once said to me, the best treatment is the one a patient will use. This is what I feel about dog food. Not everyone is dog-centric. Sometimes a dog is just a happy addition to someone’s life. No one should be made to feel shame or cruel for feeding their dog kibble.
Your dog’s skin is the largest organ of the body. A dog & cat Skin & Coat needs Omega 3 Oils - EPA & DHA from FISH .. "Well Pet - Wellness" pet foods balances their oils out nicely. Wellness Pet foods Omega-3 is normally around 1/2 what their Omega-6 Oils are. To obtain maximum results dogs skin and coat health and organ function, an ideal balance of omega-3 and omega-6 content must be respected. Too much omega-6 can interfere with omega-3 absorption and thus reduce benefits. When your dog’s skin is flaky or his fur appears dull, thin, falling out, NO shine it’s probably a signal that there’s something not right with dogs diet, change cat or dog food you're feeding, if after 1 month there is NO improvement after eating a premium different kibble brand then see a vet for blood test. This is why Rotating your kibble is a good thing to do, 1st your dog isnt eating the same ingredients 24/7, month after month year after year, this is when food sensitivities can start, or if you're buying a kibble that isn't balanced properly their skin & coat starts to suffer 1st, also rotating kibble between a few different premium kibble brands your dog does well on, if the kibble has something wrong with it just pray your dog isnt eating that brand at the time a recall happens, when you rotate with a few different brand youre giving your dog variety, can you image eating the same food, days after day, month after month, year after year, this is when dogs just look at their bowl & look at your with sad brown eyes & theyre thinking NO the same crap again. I also add some wet foods to my girl dry food, make Breakfast & Dinner exciting time of the day + you'll start to see a very healthy, shiny coat if what your are feeding is balanced properly & is a good quality pet food... You can change pet foods with the Seasons, or when I see specials I buy something new, make sure the fat% isn't really high high, your dog mighten be use to really high amount of fat, so read kibble bag & see what Fat & Fiber % he's eating now & try & stay around the same amout fat & fiber, when kibble bag is starting to run out buy a different brand & slowly add in the new kibble with dogs old kibble it tell you how on KIble bag should take 7-10 days.. Then get about 3 different brands your dog is healthy on, had a spring in his step & your dog was looking & felling really well stick with those brands.
I wish they would take out the SOY and replace with OLIVE oil instead. SOY messes with to chemistry of animals and humans which studies are becoming more prevalent.
Loren. Yes, Both my girls have been on Hills Science Diet Sensitive Stomach and Skin for years but I switched ZhZu to Science Diet Perfect Weight and Joint about 2 months ago.
To each their own of course, but I just can't comprehend how anyone could read the ingredients on any Science Diet bag and think it's good food. I am really here just to say to everyone to PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Even what your vet tells you, research it. Brown rice as the 2nd ingredient and Wheat as the 3rd ingredient, Corn as the 4th ingredient and Brewers Rice as the 5th ingredient. Isn't that way too many carbs? They are putting in the cheapest ingredients and charging way too much. Chicken Liver "Flavor", Pork Liver "Flavor" - These non natural flavors can cause stomach issues. Science Diet Adult Small & Mini Chicken & Brown Rice Recipe Dog Food Chicken, Brown Rice, Whole Grain Wheat, Whole Grain Corn, Brewers Rice, Chicken Meal, Whole Grain Sorghum, Chicken Fat, Soybean Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Corn Gluten Meal, Pork Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Lactic Acid, Soybean Oil, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Iodized Salt, vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Niacin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Pumpkin, Choline Chloride, DL-Methionine, Calcium Carbonate, Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Mixed Tocopherols for freshness, Natural Flavors, L-Carnitine, Beta-Carotene.
@@passionateherbs8183 well, if you’re doing a competition on attractive ingredient panels that play on great sounding or great looking ingredients, Hills would lose every time. If you’re competing on delivering optimal nutrients, based on decades of research and thousands of dogs and cats thriving in it, Hills would definitely be a contender. We have moved so far away from nutrients. But I agree. Do indeed research everything!
How old is Zuzu? Wouldn't a dry food like kibble cause the kidneys to stress seems as tho there's little to no moisture in it? I guess that explains why kibble fed dogs drink so much water No such thing as healthiest because each and every dog and human are individuals, so my healthiest diet would be different to yours. My dogs most healthiest diet is different to yours and so on.. Its a very convenient feed isn't it? kibble. They invented for convenience. And wow, never even looked at the ingredients, do you look at ingredients in your own food? I must admit, I've never look at my dogs food ingredient list, not for the last 13 yrs, however, do take any supplement ingredients really seriously. All those grains, almost looks like a chicken feed list doesnt it. lol Speaking of chickens, chicken is the cheapest most poorly raised animal on the planet wouldnt you say, raised poorly under poor conditions? Or is this chicken organically raised free range hens that goes into Hills?If they're not, then how can they state that its "natural" because "natural" to me isn't the above.. would you call cereals "natural"? You know how they process to come up with the chicken meal?.. can you show us how that is made in the factory?.. They add minerals, is that to make up for the nutrients lost in the cooking process? So how can you tell the quality of the meal if minerals are added? Iodized salt? jeez. experts don't even recommend that for humans, but oh well, must be the best for your dogs. I don't know about your vet, but I've actually seen vets take incentives (not cash handouts) from manufacturers. Synthetic nutrients, how does the dogs body absorb those compared to real nutrients. I wonder, if someone has a dog that isn't digesting its food properly for whatever reason, wouldn't this cause deficiencies ? Will have to check out your vid on antioxidants.. Its my understanding that omega 6's cause inflammation, not just in humans, but also dogs so why have more of it again?. And I thought collagen and the likes benefits skin and coat, amongst other things.. omega 6 AND 3, what is that sourced from ? Most processed diets are higher in 6's? Well there I go, that explains a lot... for me anyway. I'm really interested in the two little puddings there. Your two dogs, how old are they? What health issues have they had or going through, how often do you need to take them to the vet?..... so many more questions about your dogs Tell me, do they test any of their ingredients for glyphosate levels? "Super nutrients for smaller adult dogs", a supre nutrient to me what be a whole food, like .. your "natural" whole food nutrient... probably another synthetic SUPER duper nutrient added to make up for the Fats.. but its fats that have been cooked at really high heats isn't it? That can't be good. Salmon oil goes rancid when heated isn't it? Haha, "NATURAL" that cracks me up, totally I've come across SOOOO many dogs with kidney disease and heart disease and yeast infections and candida and allergies and liver disease and yes, the BIG C... why do you suppose this is... ?
From my understanding dog owners (about 25%-50%) are more likely to feed their pets wet food than cat owners. And whole Royal Canin annd Hill's state cats should be fed only wet food, according to consumer surveys from the pet industry magazines, 93% of cats are fed dry because of financial reasons. And that kind of makes sense. According to Mallory from Cats, Purina ONE, which is the bare minimum to feed senior cats, is 70 cents per day per cat to feed in contrast to wet food which are $2-8 a day per cat.
Re: omega-6, that would be from red meat and poultry. The cattle industry tried to reduce the Omega 6 ratios, and the only way to do that is by forcing cows to eat fish meal. The grass versus grain debate made no difference in the Omega 6. Since fish-fed beef are more expensive than grass-fed or grain-fed beef, you might as well juust feed fish directly to your pets
Regarding "quality of meat", you can gauge how well a pet food company handles butchery through measuring the calcium and phosphorus levels. Some companies like Weruva do a very good job of making sure their meats are processed properly. Most pet food companies do not. There is no requirements for pet food companies to list the maximum minerals, only the minimums. Some of that is changing in the EU now there's more awareness about senior dogs. But I doubt AAFCO or USDA and FDA will follow the EU.
@@KarenmitchellANI so dry food does not cause kidney disease. That’s a myth. The same is true with the myth that high protein causes kidney disease….. but if you have early compromise of kidney function, usually undetected for a long period, reducing protein, especially meat protein, and restricting minerals like phosphorus is critical. Plus added Omega 3s and a few other things. And yes, switching to canned for the added moisture is beneficial as well.
Hills is mostly grains; too much grain increases the carbs in the food which isn’t great for dogs plus it’s just cheap fillers instead of high quality proteins. No thanks! Wellness has a lot more protein in the first 5 ingredients which are the bulk of the food. Yes, the first 5 are important. I’ve talked to a pet nutritionist and Wellness and Orijen ingredients panel beats most Hills except for maybe the puppy recipe which is pretty good. I will definitely not be subscribing to your channel…very deceptive.
Ironically I received your comment while I was filming a video. Your comment confirmed everything I was saying so I used your comment in the video. You might want to check it out. Should be able to get it posted tomorrow.
Very deceptive because he's not saying what you want to believe? Because he's not in the "Cool Holistic Guys" club? No one is obligated to subscribe or share or like or finish the video, and you can disagree, that's fine. But really, deceptive? How? (Btw You're cool, Glenn, it's just... You know 😂)
🤦♀️ we get nutrients from food. All species eat food to receive nutrients. When kibble salesman attempt to knock the idea of feeding fresh food we need to think back when Nestle conned mothers into thinking their formula was better than breast milk and more convenient! Sound familiar? Ingredients matter. Sourcing matters. We know this for ourselves but we’ve been brainwashed to believe that dogs eat “dog food” not “people food”. I fed Wellness before I knew the difference between feed grade and food grade. Thankfully one of my dogs hated all kibble but now that he eats real food he begs for it at every meal 🥰 We don’t know what we don’t know. This salesman who is bragging about never reading the ingredients, clearly indicates that ingredients do not matter as long as the numbers are “good”. Can we just think about that one in a logical sense for a second? Chicken feathers (can be called chicken by product)have protein in it but I can’t help but to think my dog would benefit more from a USDA approved piece of meat. He pretends like he’s on your side because he talks about how kibble companies can fool you with marketing. Yet, he doesn’t point you in the direction of companies that legally cannot fool you. Which are companies that only use USDA certified ingredients (aka human grade). He only discusses companies that use FDA approved ingredients (feed grade). If someone truly cared about our pets wouldn’t they refer you to a company that has the same standards that are set for you and I? To actually ensure the safety and quality for our beloved animals. Hills is feeling the pressure from educated consumers who want better ingredients and guess what?? They are also coming out with a line of fresh food! I highly doubt they are going to stop using dead, dying and diseased animals but I’m sure dogs will enjoy it far more than kibble, even if just for the higher moisture content. Baby steps are better than no steps.
Any food that is used for pets is not human grade. Foods can only advertise as human grade if their food is actually made in a facility that produces human food.. the whole human vs feed grade is pure marketing to make owners feel good about spending more $ on food.
So sorry! Just learned how to filter out comments I haven’t responded to. I appreciate your input but you are wrong. Hills does not use 4D meat if they did they could never achieve the nutrient levels they do. Because you have been convinced attractive ingredients are healthier you will always be fooled by the pet food industry. If you’re feeding raw, please get a credited recipe. You don’t need to feed kibble. My channel is to hell those who choose to feed kibble to feed a healthy one. If Hills is coming out with a line of fresh food, that is news to me! I guess we’ll see! If they do I want to know the actual nutrients delivered, something you are not interested in. But thanks for taking the time!
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Hello Glenn....my husband's name is Glenn too =) Thanks for this review, it was very informative as my little pug is on a similar flavour, Science Diet Small Paws. I was feeding him raw and The Honest Kitchen before, but he is so much healthier now. His coat is much softer, his stool is healthier and he has no more refluex issues!! I will never go back to feeding raw again. I took my cats off of it too. I have to say though, as a vegan, when I open up the bag of Science Diet and get a very strong whiff of the chicken smell.....it's really gross and reminds me of how my mother-in-laws house smells at Christmas....not appetizing to me lol!! Have a great weekend, enjoy your two sweet furbabies!!
Thanks for writing! I appreciate it! I was named after Glenn Miller. Most Glenn’s I meet have only one N. Sorry the smell bothers you. I do think my formula smells like egg but maybe that’s just me.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Now you tell me it's two N's. Now I'm "in the mood "for some 30's music. LOL
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy yes, my husband is Glenn with 2 Ns also. Thanks, it's ok about the smell, I have had to adapt as my family eats meat so I have to smell it all the time lol
@TJ-kz1ul Glenn is a fool with a long history of propping up pet food corporations. Plenty of unbiased research out there to read that contradicts PetFool guy. Just gotta poke around!
I'm new here so please forgive me if this has been discussed prior to. Could you please do a review on Hill's perfect digestion and Pro Plan sensitive stomach? Canine diets I work in Vet Med (since 1989 LOL) and I know these are two good diets I would just like your take on both nutrient wise. Thank you. I really enjoy your channel!
Hi Glenn - my ACDs are shedding like mad! Would the Hill’s diet help with that?
Thank you again Glen for this interesting video. I would like to know where you get the nutrient levels in grams/mg from? On my SD bags for my cat and dog, the levels are shown in %, as well as on the Hill's website. It's hard to compare one with the other. Thanks!
I would consider Hill's but do to their recall history that makes me want to go in a different direction.
Vaughn, that’s understandable but consider this. Hills has been making diets for 75 years. The most comprehensive therapeutic line and a wellness line. That’s millions of pounds of lots of different foods and ingredients. The 2019 recall was inexcusable. We trusted a very reliable supplier from Tx. The wrongly certified mix was shipped to Hills but could have been shipped to any company. The affected food was just cans, no dry and no cat food at all. It represented 5 % of their product at the time. As tragic as it was , most pets had little reaction to the excessive vitamin D. I had 110 vet clinics at the time and had no deaths. Vets trusted Hills before the recall and continue to trust them. I try to be as fair and objective on my channel just showing nutrient levels and explaining misleading marketing. I know the nutrients Hills provides are the healthiest so I feed it. And after such an event, I have to believe Hills will be much more careful. But one major recall in 75 years is pretty good! And a company saying they’ve had no recalls means little to me. How many companies just don’t check? I am more interested in why the recall and how did they handle it.
Two of my dogs were sickened with the vitamin d excess because I was feeding hills canned adult, and rx to them. They both began having odd urinary symptoms and were just acting off. Thankfully they were ok once we got them off the food and hills paid for all related vet bills to get them feeling better. That said, every time I try hills foods I like them and the dogs do quite well. Glenn got me thinking about nutrients several years ago, sharing his knowledge on a dog message board. I am grateful for these videos still, helps us see thru the marketing bull and give the best we can to our pups.
So in your opinion, do you think these companies employee board certified veterinary nutritionists to formulate these diets with excessive minerals and proteins? I think not
What to feed a 7 pound Chihuahua .... senior with arthritis? Small/toy breed or senior or arthritis formula?
If she’s been diagnosed with arthritis I would use the Prescription Diet Mobility Small Bites. As I said in the video it’s a great senior nutrient profile too. Good luck!
You can also get supplements for joint health if that helps.
I would suggest feeding egg shell membrane, canned sardines in water,
raw chicken necks. A great supplement is Jump for joints from Adored Beast Apothecary.
@@sitherapy5 I would suggest you watch my video on Prescription Duet Mobility to get a better understanding of managing arthritis with diet. You’re in the right track though.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy this will be my last comment because I don’t want to continue to give your channel undeserved attention. Your message is archaic and shouldn’t be seen. Kibble was a trend born out of convenience. Now that we’ve seen our canines health declining it’s time to look at what we’ve been doing to cause that.
I would be happy to watch your videos if you actually had responses that made sense.
Your Hill’s claims are not even what the company claims 🤦♀️
I suggest you read/watch/listen
Dr Connor Obrady
Dr Ian Billinghurst
Dr Judy Morgan.
And obviously Dr Becker.
Just to name a few.
Susan Thixton would also teach you a lot.
These pet wellness heroes can help PREVENT your dog from unnecessary suffering. Simply by eating real food.
If I cooked my dogs food then I would be able to eat it and thrive. If you ate kibble you’re going to feel sick. Like your protein deficient, chronically dehydrated poor pup.
That's my favorite video! I'm so glad your dogs have perfect test results at their age! It's really interesting to me that you haven't switched them to senior vitality which I know isn't necessary anyway.
I would love to know more about the research behind senior vitality. I haven't been able to find in depth information on Hill's website.
Thanks George. Ya know, Senior Vitality came out and I was too busy with Prescription Diet activities in my clinics to have time to look at it. Personally, it seems Hills has perhaps a few too many senior diets, especially for cats, but it is def an area where Hills is superior over other brands. I do need to look into it though!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I feel like because the senior life stage is not well defined, every brand has its own philosophy: some say the diet should not be high in calories so that to avoid obesity, others say it should be high in calories since aging cats lose their sense of smell and have decreased appetite, some say it should have low phosphorus levels etc..
@@George.JI was talking with a nutritionist yesterday and he was saying almost the same thing. Until AAFCO comes up with senior parameters it’s easy for food companies to even take a puppy food and call it Senior. But your point is true. A Senior food needs to lower phosphorus but it would be good to have a low calorie version and a high calorie version. You basically see that with Senior cat foods low in fat but when dealing with a cat with kidney disease (and getting thin) the fat goes up.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy thanks for sharing!
I recently went back down the dog food rabbit hole after feeding Nutisource to my girl for several years and so glad to have discovered both your and Dr Rea’s channels, I’m finding them both so helpful and informative! I originally chose Nutrisource after hours of online reading, mostly on dog food advisor and analyzing ingredients (sigh), it was a local to me company in MN, and ultimately my vet at the time said that’s what she fed her dog. I wish that information about how to truly assess dog food, read labels, and understand the nutrients was information that is more readily available to pet parents who are just trying to do the very best for our babies! Looking back I had no idea what to look for or where to even begin, and definitely had negative bias toward the “big” brands. I’m strongly considering switching to Hills because the science and research done to back it up is very important to me and of course the nutrient levels- from the info I’ve seen it seems that in general Hills is closest to the recommended nutrient levels than other brands by far. I’m wondering about the AAFCO statements- in reviewing some Hills varieties it seems like many of them do state “formulated” vs tested. With Hills having such a reputation for research, is it safe to assume that the evidence is there to back it up even if the AAFCO statement says formulated?
Also, I’m interested in your thoughts on why calcium and phosphorus levels aren’t printed on bags or at least more readily available on company’s websites, given how vital they seem to be to a pet’s health?
Thank you so much for your videos!
My beagle Bella has been on Hills GastroBiome for 3 years. She refuses to touch it now and I've noticed a lot of the kibble is dark and looks burned. What have they done to change the kibble. Why can't they make prescription food that is palatable so you don't have to add a topper to try and make your dog eat it? Sounds like to me you still work for Hills.
Donna, Hills, like most companies, don’t use artificial coloring do’s some batches could look a little different. Does Bella still need the Biome diet? Hills makes a Science Diet Perfect Digestion which is extremely similar with the same prebiotics. Might have a little different toast and way less expensive. Nope, I don’t work for Hills anymore. Retired 2 years in July. I have a 16 yr old Bella!
I have a senior dachshund and a 9 month old dach , Im always worried about fat content, because I had a dach that passed from pancreatitis, can you review Nutri source
Dietary fat is the primary energy source in a diet. The idea is to match up the correct fat level to the energy needs of the dog, so you’re feeding a normal amount.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge about pet foods. What are you thoughts on wet vs dry food for dogs and cats?
Thanks Sharon. Canned costs about 3times more to feed and obviously isn’t as convenient. There is no dental benefit to dry over canned. That myth has been destroyed by tons of solid research, just good marketing by Milkbone! If a cat or dog is prone to urinary stones canned really is beneficial. With kidney issues true as well. But there’s no real proven benefit if either of those conditions are not present. Hope that helps.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy For cats, wet is better, because most cats don't drink enough water. A certain veterinarian feeds Hill's wet k/d to the cats kept at her animal hospital.
@@edschulhof6303 I won’t argue with that!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Oh. Then I must have said it wrong! LOL
@@edschulhof6303 or you’re saying it right!
It's Sardine Sunday for Colbie and Panda. Yesterday, Army shot down Air Force, 23-3. The caissons go rolling along . . . LOL
I haven’t been watching but I’ll try and watch Army beat navy!
If kibble is what dogs are suppose to eat how come we have sooo many cases of cancer, obesity, diabetes, dental and skin problems?
You find an answer to why cancer, please let the world know. We’ve all listened too many good people and dogs to cancer. Our Berner was a month short of 13 when she was diagnosed with cancer. The other 4 are extremely common indeed but those conditions can also be managed and signs relieved by kibble as well. I guess you believe feeding unprocessed food will prevent these? Again, would love a real answer to cancer. Obesity is caused by consuming too much fat, carbs calories. One could do that with any form of food. Same with diabetes, though very different for cats vs dogs. Are you suggesting fresh food won’t produce plaque on teeth? Not aware of such a claim. And skin allergies are more often environmental than food, and when it is food it’s the protein source. If a dog is allergic to chicken, fresher chicken is no less an allergen than chicken meal. I’m all for feeding fresh if you prefer but you need to get a real recipe from a qualified nutritionist. And you don’t have to demonize commercial food when there’s no reason.
Spot on Glenn. Plus all those things people get too and a lot of times comes with age. Dogs are living longer, unlike what some want you to believe and with the age increase comes more possibility of disease. Plus genetics and overbreeding plays into this
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy my dogs health was declining on kibble he had horrible skin and rashes all over his body and he had allergies once i started feeding raw all those issues went away and his poops have been alot better
@@sikandersahota7118what kibble did you feed???
@@just_joli I tried Purina Pro Plan, Open farms, and carna4
Do you promote adding extra vitamins, probiotics to your dog food?
No. You are trusting the food company to balance the vitamins. Something like C, which they will simply pee out the excess, but most likely you’re just producing expensive urine! Probiotics are great quick bandaids for short term diarrhea but for chronic gut health the diets designed to nourish the micro biome naturally make more sense, like Science Diet Perfect Digestion
I have a QUESTION??
I was told the ingredient lists are written when they're raw & then most heaviest ingredients goes first, then ingredients keep going to least ingredient & when you see "Salt" salt can NOT be more then 1% so any ingredients after the salt are all under 1%, this is when you normally see the more expensive ingredients like Blueberries, Vitamin A, E, Probiotics etc etc because you don't get as much.
Isn't this correct??
Orijen does alot of Ingredient splitting with their meats but its good you see all the meats names on paper instead of just seeing Ocean Fish Meal.
Its probably alot of By Product fishes all cooked together, then Orijen spilt them all up, but this is way too many Ingredients for my girl
Orijen Six Fish-
Ingredients List
Whole atlantic mackerel, whole atlantic herring, whole atlantic flounder, whole acadian redfish, atlantic monkfish, whole silver hake, mackerel meal, herring meal, blue whiting meal, herring oil, whole green peas, whole navy beans, whole red lentils, alaskan cod meal, pollock meal, sunflower oil, whole yellow peas, whole pinto beans, whole chickpeas, whole green lentils, lentil fiber, natural fish flavor, safflower oil, freeze-dried cod liver, whole pumpkin, whole butternut squash, kale, spinach, mustard greens, collard greens, turnip greens, whole carrots, whole apples, whole pears, dried kelp, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, zinc proteinate, mixed tocopherols (preservative), copper proteinate, chicory root, turmeric, sarsaparilla root, althea root, rosehips, juniper berries, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried bifidobacterium animalis fermentation product, dried lactobacillus casei fermentation product.
I doubt I am the first to point this out, but there doesn't appear to be another pet nutritionist or nutrition site who shares your dog nutrition opinions. First, they'd never feed Science Diet. They tend to favor making their own fresh dog food first, followed by freeze and air dried foods ahead of any kibble. Secondly, their ideal kibble ratio seems to be 30% protein, 20% fat, 30% carbs, and 5% fiber. I assume the remaining percentage is moisture and binding agents. Third, none favor synthetic vitamin additions or any meal type over real meat. Fourth, the ratio of calcium to phosphorus is said to be the important factor (1.2:1 to 2:1). And finally, for fun, I looked up the calcium and phosphorus in Alpo (yuck!) and found it to be 1% and 0.8% respectfully - which I don't know how to translate into numbers, but sounds low to me. So, are they all wrong?
Ted, that’s for the insightful comment. You are absolutely spot on with your observations! I retired from 34 years training vets and their teams on therapeutic and wellness nutrition. I stumbled across RUclips trying to do all those home projects I never had time for so of course had to put in Pet Food. As you said, it was all self pressed nutrition experts spouting some of the most absurd comments. I am very tech challenged but felt compelled to counter some of it. To your point, none of those folks would feed Science Diet. It’s against their philosophy they so believe in and they have been sucked into decades of pet food marketing being perfected. But they aren’t nutritionists and the vets you see are selling products! Like $49 or even $50 a lb foods!!!!! Yet if you talk to real nutritionists and the practicing veterinarians who see pets every day and see the results of all kinds of foods ( and do have access to peer reviewed studies) the majority feed Hills, and many RC or Purina. That’s why the people on RUclips will tell you vets are either just pushing food for profit or vets are stupid and don’t know better. I actually did find a few really good channels and some misc videos by real nutritionists and of course they share a very different perspective. Most vets disagree with home cooking and raw for a few good reasons. You mentioned their ideal ratios. A nutritionist would ask for the real data as to why that ratio is best, rather than considering what a wolf eats. And yes, as you saw, percentages are very hard to evaluate which is why I only do actual nutrient levels, grams or milligrams per 100 kcal’s. So I hope you’ll watch a few more videos and let me know what you think. If you can look at my subscriptions you’ll see those few vet channels that are really excellent so you know I’m not making things up! lol! Thanks again!
I don’t know how this channel came to my feed. First I assumed it was videos from some retired RUclips channel ..because who else would be putting out such ludicrous info this day and age!
@@sitherapy5 lol! Well, I retired just over a year ago so I guess I’ll start getting out of date but up until then I was being trained by board certified vet nutritionists and had access to all the newest canine and feline nutrition science. Sounds like maybe you’ve been exposed to more marketing than nutrition.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy yea!!! Damn those vets always supporting grocery stores, local butchers, ethnic markets and farmers markets. I’m sure every time I buy beef chunks, kidney, liver, testes, and organic veggies those vets are making a killing. Those darn vets always trying to make money off telling us to make our own food at home. Who do they think they are?! 🤣
@@sitherapy5 well, the ones I see are promoting their books, getting interviews, selling therapeutic diets with wonderful ingredients for $39.99 a pound, etc, …. And not one of them is a credentialed nutritionist. You are a very passionate person. I appreciate that. You want to feed fresh food and I have no problem with that. But notice how the marketers can’t just motivate you to feed their way, buy their recipes, their books, their foods even, but have to fill your head with lies about the pet food industry. And trust me. Been around d vets for 34 years. As corporate Mars buys up the clinics and takes over, some vets will opt for the all natural holistic approach just to differentiate themselves and make money. Oh but that’s right! Vets don’t know anything about nutrition and are just out to make money in animals.
Ps I am intrigued with@sitherapy5 name!🙂
BUT Hills Salt is HIGH -70, does that matter ao Im new is this high for salt??🤔🤔
Orijen Phos is low for the amount of protein in their kibbles, I thought it would have been heaps higher, you dont want high Phos, very high phosphorus diet can cause Hyperphosphatemia & can damage dogs Bones, Kidneys, Heart..
So really Orijen isnt that bad out of the 3 formula's, It's the Wellness can do damage if feed long term...
This is where Rotating your pet food is good, your dog is dodging a bullet if you change between a few different dry food & rotate.
I like Rotating my kibbles with the Seasons, Fish In Summer, Lamb in the Winter, then Pork, Chicken & Turkey leaner white meats in the other 2 seasons...
If you are concerned about Science Diet having 70 on sodium, I would think you would be very concerned about Origen having 80 on sodium.
I am wondering why didn’t you feed them hill’s dog food for senior ? Is it not necessary?
Yannaren, good question! Senior diets are great, though very few are actually designed that way. A senior food generically. Addresses the most common age related diseases such as kidney and heart disease, calcium oxalate crystals, obesity. So since my girls age would indicate a senior food, I did blood work to see how she’s doing internally. Since her liver and kidneys are perfect, obviously the controlled protein and minerals is working for her but Senior would be lower in calories and she’s thin with a lousy appetite so her current food should be appropriate a little longer. I am actually switching ZuZu to Prescription Diet JD, Hills diet for arthritis. She doesn’t have clinical arthritis but has had weird orthopedic tendencies since we rescued her as a puppy to I’m trying to get ahead of it. And the lower calories will help her lose a little weight. So to get back to your original question, there are many active healthy digs that will never need the specifics of a senior food…. Though I did a video on Senior foods and most don’t even resemble senior nutrition at all. Thanks for asking!
Got it. Thanks for explaining to me. My girl is 8, I wasn’t sure if I should feed her different food than my 6 yo dog. What you said make sense, next vet visit I will ask for blood work to see if she needs to be on different type hills.
Hi Glenn. Can you do a review of Gramma Mae’s County Naturals
And also Instinct?
HELP! 3 months ago, switched our 12 year old Coton, from mix of Freshpet beef/Fromm kibble(she had been on that for years), to Farmer's Dog. Biggest mistake ever(we think). She developed terminal itching. Have had her off Farmer's for 6 weeks, & 3 vets later. Been on Apoquel, no help. Have tried minimizing the Freshpet with a different kibble, Open Farm beef. Still no help. Was thinking of trying one of the "hyrdolized protein" kibbles. Have any suggestions? Thank you.
Wow! That’s pretty strange. And the Apoquel didn’t help? There is an injection Cydopoint (spelling is probably wrong) that many vets swear by.. but yes, ZD is an excellent hydrolyzed diet and perfect for a 12 year old as far as senior nutrients. If your vet is suspecting environmental allergens Hills makes Derm Complete. It isn’t hydrolyzed but uses just egg protein, which most dogs aren’t allergic to, and an antioxidant package to help the body’s immune response normalize. Has there been any environment change she could be reacting to? Btw, all dogs are different but beef is one of the highest allergens for dogs. Sorry, I know how frustrating it is. I’d get her off any other food and try one of those.
Awww sorry to hear ably your little ones diet change issues. Also you can try talking to your vet about allergy testing thru VDI ( trusted veterinary lab) May help to get to root of your sweet pet sensitive. I’m a vet tech in MD and these tests have helped us help our sensitive patients. Along with using Cytopoint in some cases. ☺️
Could you make an vedio on future of orijen , acana after acquisition by mars?
First of all, I'm so happy to find your channel -- there are so many self-proclaimed experts out there spreading misinformation, so it's refreshing to get "back to basics" so to speak and do better for our dogs. I'm in the process of switching my two dogs -- a beagle puppy and a 7-year-old dachshund mix -- over to Science Diet formulas appropriate for their size/age. I also wondered if you might cover how to go about evaluating wet dog food? Thanks!
Evaluating a food usually means calling the company. The Guaranteed Analysis is sadly just minimums and maximums. You can compare nutrients in an As Fed basis, which are the actual amount shut with the moisture included. Different moisture levels skew the numbers a bit. Dry matter basis removes the moisture for better accuracy but foods still could differ in calorie count so percentage again is affected a little. That’s why my reviews are done in per 100 kcals basis. How much of the nutrient per calorie is most accurate. AnimalDocRea is a vet with a great channel who has a video on the math no remove the moisture from cans and get the dry matter numbers. Hope that long description helps!
Can someone teach me how to calculate these nutrients levels from the info provided on kibble bags? I’d like to be able to compare more brands. Maybe this could be an idea for a future video?
Unfortunately the bag is designed to keep you in the dark with just minimums and. Maximums. Some companies can give you percentages on an As Fed basis but that includes the moisture, which varies with diets. The Dy Natter percentage is more accurate, removing the moisture, some companies will have that. My comparisons are all in grams per 100 kcals, the most accurate way. Sadly, when I call companies, too many don’t even know what I’m talking about. So calling or emailing, as Dr Rea does. Very few list it on their websites.
Do you have a specific brand and flavor in mind? Maybe Glenn or Dr. Rea have already reviewed it. As Glenn said, if it is not on the website, you have to email the company. So far, all of them I have contacted have replied. Most are over the limits, listed in the Small Animal Clinical Nutrition book, for calcium and phosphorus.
Add up all the numbers from the guaranteed analysis and then subtract that number from 100. That will give you the percentage of carbohydrates in the food. Studies have determined that dogs do best with 7%-20% carbs. Science diet is 60% carbs. Which is unfortunately not uncommon. Carbs turn into sugar. Sugar turns into yeast. It’s no wonder why skin issues are the number one reason dogs are taken to the vet. That also includes ear infection. The reason they have so many carbs is because starch is far cheaper than quality protein.
@@sitherapy5 well, not exactly. The guaranteed analysis is minimums and maximums rather than real numbers. I did a video on how little it really tells us. (Which is why the industry likes it!) I’m not sure many board certified nutritionists would agree on the 7 to20% carb level. I’ll trust you that SD is 60%. I’ll also trust the nutritionists there! You are being a bit simplistic that carbs = sugar= yeast= skin issues. Veterinary dermatologists would tell you food allergies are mostly caused by proteins. Your comparison of cheap starches to quality proteins makes no sense. Protein provides amino acids. Carbs, depending on the source, provide energy, vitamins and minerals, fatty acids, and dietary fiber. Comparing the two is irrelevant.
Sir, have you ever run across a dog who has to STAY on a hydrolyzed protein diet? Thank you.
Absolutely! Most! Their dens ivory to an allergen is most likely for life.
@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Thanks for your always, reliable responses.
I feed my pit bull red healer mix origen for years but stoped because there mineral suppliment is the same comp purena uses.
Getting ready to put my small breed dog on the hills sensitive stomach and skin. She really only needs the sensitive stomach but the perfect digestion is out of my budget. She has done really well on Science Diet adult so hoping for similar results on the sensitive stomach formula. Thanks for the review!
You’re welcome! My two have done really well in it. Blood work for both is great at 14 and 9.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy you don’t feed a senior formula? I have a dog with super sensitive skin who is 10 years old. Would like to keep her on SD but they don’t make a senior sensitive skin formula.
@@sincere355 if Bella's bloodwork was starting to inch up I would start switching but I know the Sensitive Stomach has very healthy mineral levels so for now I'm comfortable staying on it. That's why senior blood work is so helpful. Some pets may never get to a senior food, especially if they stay really active.
Do you feed wet and/or dry food? Or both?
Charlene, u feed mostly dry but give some canned on holidays or just as a surprise.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuycan you use fresh food as a topper?
Hi Glenn!!! I have been viewing and reviewing your videos all day today since I found you this morning. After all day I decided into getting this food too. To my surprise at petsmart website they are showing there is a new recipe with new ingredients for this food that you just reviewed. So now we need a new review :(
Is there a chance you can look into the new recipe and see if it still has same results on calcium and phosphorus as the old recipe? Thanks so much!!! Because I'm now more confused than before.
Is hills science diet same
Why is Vitamin E so much higher in adult lamb science diet to the chicken adult one.
Glenn. It's even higher then The one Sensitive skin and stomach.
Can you do a review of Zignature brand food. any which bone.. Thanks my man. You're awesome
I always read the label when i buy dog food because brands will change ingred.
This is quite interesting.
Are you aware of the difference between feed grade and human grade ingredients?
Would you rather consume a cow that died from cancer and rotted away in the field or a cow that was slaughtered then immediately processed for consumption?
Do you stay away from fresh, unprocessed foods so you can live a long, healthy life?
Would you prefer to have a variety of different flavors, textures, and nutrient profiles or would you be fine with only different types of dry cereal and water?
Eating and feeding fresh food isn’t a trend.. it’s just common sense. You don’t have to work in the pet industry to know this. Most people from all different professions and walks of life are aware that processed food should limited or eliminated.
Well, you are mistaken if you think all feed grade food is 4D meat (dead, diseased, dying, disabled). It simply means it is not under FDA observance. You are referring to the worst stuff allowed, not the norm. And what good is human grade ingredients if the nutrients delivered are excessive and imbalanced? That’s what determines nutritional value. As far as processed foods, I just did a video on that topic. The mistake you’re making is you are comparing human processed foods which are just convenient and designed to taste good, but offer harmful ingredients including sugar, synthetic flavoring and coloring, unhealthy fats, high salt, etc. The process of making a dry of canned pet food, formulated by top vet nutritionists, delivering optimal nutrients is not the same thing at all. The point is what is the Purpose of the processing. Anyone in the pet food industry telling you feeding kibble is like feeding McDonalds to your pet is either misinformed (most likely) or lying to you, usually to sell you something. You should watch the video!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy the FDA approves of the 4Ds going into pet food. Plus many other absurd waste products.
The USDA does not allow 4D meat.
Reputable companies can prove they use USDA facilities yet Hills does not have any such info available on their website or over the phone.
Believe me sir I am informed and am not mistaken that real food provides nutrients for myself and my beloved pets. It’s not rocket science.. I don’t understand your logic. You believe that just because some people don’t properly inform themselves on how to feed raw that means dogs do better on kibble? So if some parents decided to feed their children only fruit; does that mean everyone should only feed their kids Cheerios? 🤔
Funny that you mention sugar since this food is literally 50% carbs. Did you realize that the body turns carbs into sugar? Perhaps thats why our poor pups deal with so many dental issues, diabetes and obesity.
The majority of this research is finding how cheap they can make food without any immediate adverse effects. Just because a company spends millions on research does not mean that is for the consumers benefit. They spend far more money on marketing than they do sourcing quality ingredients.
I recommend people do their research and make their own ..it’s not hard. Well, it’s not hard for people who understand we’ve been getting nutrients from food for ….awhile now 😆
By AAFCO definition, calling something a “recipe” means that the named ingredient (in this case chicken) makes up 25% of the food by weight 😊
Zoe, thanks! Didn’t realize there was a rule attached to it. But it is a nice word. Reminds me of my grandma.
Sounds like a great dog food but the 80 dollar price tag for 33 lbs is a bit outrageous. What's the next comparable food that costs a bit less?
I need to do a video on the whole Iams line but I am impressed with its nutrient levels and price. Perhaps best budget food out there.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy What do you think about their large breed senior dog product?
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuyThank you for sharing this. I was feeding I a sand was feeling guilty for not buying the fresh food or more expensive kibble. If you think I am sis ok, then I will go back to it. I have been feeding my Yorkie and cats Blue Buffalo. Is it any better than Iams? Should I go to SD? They have no issues.
Hi new subscriberi have large giant breed puppy would love to know what you have to say on large breed puppy food thank you
JoAnn
Here ya go! And welcome! ruclips.net/video/kOejrXBGnxA/видео.htmlsi=m1NqJOaF2WKGSBvW
I LOVE your videos, but I have to disagree "Royal Canin" - Europe in my opinion is heaps better then Hills..
When I go to my vets, which is monthly, my vet practice is a very busy vet practice, they have about 6 vets working there, all I see is what Hill is sponsoring at my vets, all the vets wear the nice Hills vet blue uniforms, the "We are Open" sign out the front is a Hills signs, even the dry/wet food shelving thats lites up is Hills shelving, Royal Canin doesn't have their own shelving, my vet practice must either sell alot of Hills vet formula's or we have a rep who likes to give away alot of Hills stock? I think its a waste of Hills money,
Glen can you answer why do Hills sponsor some vet practices more then other vet practices?? are their Hills sale up & higher then other vet practices or are the vets at my vet practice nice to the rep & he's nice back & gets them nice new Hills shelving, etc etc..I know my vet does talk with the Hills rep because when Hills Biome vet diet came out my vet said I'll be seeing Hills Rep this week & I will ask him these questions you have just asked me..
It's ashame, i'd rather see Hills reduce their prices so more dogs can benefit from Hills or sponser rescue dogs to get them free training, so they cat get adopted & have a better start in their new homes, this would be something where we really see where Hills money is being spent.
This made me wonder
"Why doesn't Royal Canin have their own pet food shelving, "Vet is open" signs, vet clothes?" 🤔
I think Royal Canin puts their money back into more studies, more research & has better quality dehydrated meats..
Don't get me wrong, Im NOT a Hills hater, over the years I have had 2 sick rescue Staffys who suffer with Stomach, Bowel & Skin problems, when buying pet foods it is very hard, I know straight away when the quality isnt good, you start to see which Pet Food brands seem to help & work better for your sick pets, even my vet has comment a few times, how she sees really good results with Royal Canin vet diets, I've been the same, I've seem results with Royal Canin.
My new Rescue is on Hills Z/d for her skin & coat at the moment the Z/d seems to really helps her stomach, reduced her grass eating, so I dont hate Hills its been a life saver for some pets. Im just saying what I've seen over the years.
also Royal Canin Europe we get in Australia have gone 1 step further & they use Dehydrated meats instead of meat meals, meat meals are cooked & cooked at very high temps in the end there's no flavour in the meat, no vitamins, all the nutrition has been cooked away...
In my Opinion out of all the pet foods- Royal Canin-Europe wins hands down & is a better quaility pet food, it's more palatable for Cats & Dogs, fussy eaters love their Royal Canin so they're doing something right. Royal Canin is best selling pet food in Australia.
Royal Canin USA is totally different to the Europe Royal Canin & its ashame for the American pets, Royal Canin USA isnt imported to Australia, UK or other countries as we all have very strict import laws & the Pet Food compaines MUST write on import forms where ALL their ingredients are source from & must make changes if they want their pets to come into Australia or other countries..
Wow! That’s quite a post! I’m impressed with RC Europe. Here in the states I think Hills has a clear leg up on RC, especially in urinary, renal and obesity, and though they do great with GI I think Hills new microbiome diets have really moved the needle further.
I wanted to answer your question about hills signage and shelving. Here in the states you will find RC shelving everywhere, especially in the Mars owned hospitals. As a rep I would get an allocation of racks for my territory. Usually that was annually. It might be a few dozen every other year for my 110 hospitals. Obviously, if a vet starts moving more diets they have an issue of space. As a rep I would decide who gets them. RC , more than Purina, have all the Open signs, weight scale mats, counter mats, wall clocks. I honestly can’t even guess who’s paying for more or less. But let me copy something I wrote in another post here.
The real question should be What does the company do with the money they make from their profits. Are they just in it for big money and really don’t care about pets? If you combined the amount of money Hills, Purina and RC have spend on research over the decades, (over 7 decades for Hills) it has to be hundreds of millions. Colgate just built Hills a $22 million dollar research facility addition to focus on small breed nutrition. They have perhaps the largest feeding program across the country feeding humane societies, over 100,000 pets a day. For decades Hills has paid for urinary stone analysis at MN Urolith Center, so vet clinics across the country can send the stones there for free and the data can be collected and help in research. Hills pays for every one and most vets don’t even know it. Hills started and still helps fund the Morris Animal Foundation, a premier organization doing pet research. I see food companies talking about how lean pets live an average 2 years longer than obese pets. That was an excellent study done and paid for by Purina. No one mentions that. Colgate has owned Hills for almost 50 years. Yet they never forced Hills to put Science Diet in grocery stores and mass produce it. And I have seen many studies conducted by RC as well, now funded by a candy company. And look at the results of the research done by these companies, managing so many diseases that were stealing time with our furry family members. Yet they are perceived as greedy conglomerates selling awful food and making a fortune. Yet somehow small companies, with no research, no nutritionists, they’re making food out of the goodness of their hearts and not for profit. But……….
The fact Mars is buying up multiple brands is not concerning, but they are buying the entire vet profession. They have bought so many vet clinics, and labs, and specialty hospitals that they soon will have total control. Vets will have to perform procedures based on the corporate policies and recommend drugs or diets based on corporate as well. Then I do believe money will take over, much like the human medical care. And at this point, no one can stop them. Sorry for my pessimism but it’s one of the reasons I retired. Hated seeing the changes.(and I’m old and tired!)
And lastly, the cooking of meat meals is not destroying all the nutrients. That’s just marketing.
But thank you for taking the time to write! I appreciate it!
I think people lose sight of in this whole pet food argument is their pets. That raw is better or kibble is better i think as long as your pets are healthy thats all that matters no matter what you're feeding
The simple fact is that there are awful raw diets fed to pets and awful kibble diets fed to pets…. And vice versa. It is impossible to judge categories.
I think it's a symptom of a larger or broader attitude of people nowadays, thinking that your pup's diet should reflect something about you other than an informed decision (or rather, what elements are in fashion to appear to be informed).
This is what I’m putting mine all back on. Nothing works better, all things considered!
Happy Feline Friday! I never had a doubt that you feed Hill's kibble. LOL All kidding aside, this is one of your best videos. I really enjoyed watching. But what fun is it, if I don't kid you? "Recipe" means there is between 25% to 94% meat, weight before cooking. Regarding corn, "So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. He longed to fill his stomach with the HUSKS that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything." The pigs ate it all! LOL Still not feeding corn or other grains to my cats. Your dogs are cute, by the way.
Yes, Zoe also mentioned that 25% rule! Darn, the Prt Food Puzzle Guy doesn’t know everything? (He just thinks he does.). I thought this one was too long so glad you liked it. So is the pig story out of the Parodical Son? Well, I have coined a new phrase! Cats are Cornivores! Because while they need meat protein, they also can utilize corn! Yes, my girls are so darned cute! They have me wrapped around their paws!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Yes, the Prodigal Son. It was part of the sermon at my grandkids' school Mass Wednesday. I like that you talk about your personal life. Cornivores, very funny. I guess we have to have something to disagree about. LOL My grandson who has bonded with my cats is here for the weekend. They love having him here. You have a good weekend!
Ya, the problem is “meal” products are not “high quality”. Idk why you claim that???
Let me rephrase that statement. Chicken meal can be junk or it could be high quality. Just like by products could be junk or could be high quality organic meat. Fresh meat can be junk like 4D meat or it could be human grade. The only way of knowing is looking at the minerals in each. If high, that means it contains none, hair, hoof, feathers, dirt, etc. so you definitely can have a chicken meal that is higher quality than fresh chicken. A meal is also much more concentrated than fresh meat on a lb for lb basis. You are listening to the Ingredientists playing with ingredient definitions rather than nutritionists looking at nutrients delivered. Does that clarify my statement?
I was fooled too by the negative information on kibble. I bought into the fear mongering and was afraid to use any kibble. Then I did my own research.
Glen is telling the truth.
It’s not that you can’t make healthy meals for your pet, it’s just that most pet owners do not want to spend the money, time or effort. And kibble fits for them. Kibble is not the devil’s biscuits. It’s just a way for people to conveniently get the proper and balanced nutrients into their dog.
My doctor once said to me, the best treatment is the one a patient will use.
This is what I feel about dog food.
Not everyone is dog-centric. Sometimes a dog is just a happy addition to someone’s life. No one should be made to feel shame or cruel for feeding their dog kibble.
They all use vit min supp in dog food
Your dog’s skin is the largest organ of the body.
A dog & cat Skin & Coat needs Omega 3 Oils - EPA & DHA from FISH ..
"Well Pet - Wellness" pet foods balances their oils out nicely. Wellness Pet foods Omega-3 is normally around 1/2 what their Omega-6 Oils are.
To obtain maximum results dogs skin and coat health and organ function, an ideal balance of omega-3 and omega-6 content must be respected. Too much omega-6 can interfere with omega-3 absorption and thus reduce benefits.
When your dog’s skin is flaky or his fur appears dull, thin, falling out, NO shine it’s probably a signal that there’s something not right with dogs diet, change cat or dog food you're feeding, if after 1 month there is NO improvement after eating a premium different kibble brand then see a vet for blood test.
This is why Rotating your kibble is a good thing to do, 1st your dog isnt eating the same ingredients 24/7, month after month year after year, this is when food sensitivities can start, or if you're buying a kibble that isn't balanced properly their skin & coat starts to suffer 1st, also rotating kibble between a few different premium kibble brands your dog does well on, if the kibble has something wrong with it just pray your dog isnt eating that brand at the time a recall happens, when you rotate with a few different brand youre giving your dog variety, can you image eating the same food, days after day, month after month, year after year, this is when dogs just look at their bowl & look at your with sad brown eyes & theyre thinking NO the same crap again.
I also add some wet foods to my girl dry food, make Breakfast & Dinner exciting time of the day +
you'll start to see a very healthy, shiny coat if what your are feeding is balanced properly & is a good quality pet food...
You can change pet foods with the Seasons, or when I see specials I buy something new, make sure the fat% isn't really high high, your dog mighten be use to really high amount of fat, so read kibble bag & see what Fat & Fiber % he's eating now & try & stay around the same amout fat & fiber, when kibble bag is starting to run out buy a different brand & slowly add in the new kibble with dogs old kibble it tell you how on KIble bag should take 7-10 days..
Then get about 3 different brands your dog is healthy on, had a spring in his step & your dog was looking & felling really well stick with those brands.
Your pups are blessed to have you!
I wish they would take out the SOY and replace with OLIVE oil instead. SOY messes with to chemistry of animals and humans which studies are becoming more prevalent.
Man i swear pet food marketer's best in the world at wording. They make people buy pet food just cause of a bag .
Lol! It is incredible to think otherwise intelligent people don’t realize it’s not the nutritionists designing the bag! It’s lying marketing people!
I thought you fed your dogs hills
Loren. Yes, Both my girls have been on Hills Science Diet Sensitive Stomach and Skin for years but I switched ZhZu to Science Diet Perfect Weight and Joint about 2 months ago.
To each their own of course, but I just can't comprehend how anyone could read the ingredients on any Science Diet bag and think it's good food. I am really here just to say to everyone to PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Even what your vet tells you, research it.
Brown rice as the 2nd ingredient and Wheat as the 3rd ingredient, Corn as the 4th ingredient and Brewers Rice as the 5th ingredient. Isn't that way too many carbs? They are putting in the cheapest ingredients and charging way too much. Chicken Liver "Flavor", Pork Liver "Flavor" - These non natural flavors can cause stomach issues.
Science Diet Adult Small & Mini Chicken & Brown Rice Recipe Dog Food
Chicken, Brown Rice, Whole Grain Wheat, Whole Grain Corn, Brewers Rice, Chicken Meal, Whole Grain Sorghum, Chicken Fat, Soybean Meal, Chicken Liver Flavor, Corn Gluten Meal, Pork Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Lactic Acid, Soybean Oil, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Iodized Salt, vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Niacin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Pumpkin, Choline Chloride, DL-Methionine, Calcium Carbonate, Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Mixed Tocopherols for freshness, Natural Flavors, L-Carnitine, Beta-Carotene.
@@passionateherbs8183 well, if you’re doing a competition on attractive ingredient panels that play on great sounding or great looking ingredients, Hills would lose every time. If you’re competing on delivering optimal nutrients, based on decades of research and thousands of dogs and cats thriving in it, Hills would definitely be a contender. We have moved so far away from nutrients. But I agree. Do indeed research everything!
Company man
How old is Zuzu?
Wouldn't a dry food like kibble cause the kidneys to stress seems as tho there's little to no moisture in it? I guess that explains why kibble fed dogs drink so much water
No such thing as healthiest because each and every dog and human are individuals, so my healthiest diet would be different to yours. My dogs most healthiest diet is different to yours and so on..
Its a very convenient feed isn't it? kibble. They invented for convenience.
And wow, never even looked at the ingredients, do you look at ingredients in your own food?
I must admit, I've never look at my dogs food ingredient list, not for the last 13 yrs, however, do take any supplement ingredients really seriously.
All those grains, almost looks like a chicken feed list doesnt it. lol
Speaking of chickens, chicken is the cheapest most poorly raised animal on the planet wouldnt you say, raised poorly under poor conditions? Or is this chicken organically raised free range hens that goes into Hills?If they're not, then how can they state that its "natural" because "natural" to me isn't the above.. would you call cereals "natural"?
You know how they process to come up with the chicken meal?.. can you show us how that is made in the factory?.. They add minerals, is that to make up for the nutrients lost in the cooking process?
So how can you tell the quality of the meal if minerals are added?
Iodized salt? jeez. experts don't even recommend that for humans, but oh well, must be the best for your dogs.
I don't know about your vet, but I've actually seen vets take incentives (not cash handouts) from manufacturers.
Synthetic nutrients, how does the dogs body absorb those compared to real nutrients. I wonder, if someone has a dog that isn't digesting its food properly for whatever reason, wouldn't this cause deficiencies ?
Will have to check out your vid on antioxidants..
Its my understanding that omega 6's cause inflammation, not just in humans, but also dogs so why have more of it again?. And I thought collagen and the likes benefits skin and coat, amongst other things.. omega 6 AND 3, what is that sourced from ?
Most processed diets are higher in 6's? Well there I go, that explains a lot... for me anyway.
I'm really interested in the two little puddings there. Your two dogs, how old are they?
What health issues have they had or going through, how often do you need to take them to the vet?..... so many more questions about your dogs
Tell me, do they test any of their ingredients for glyphosate levels?
"Super nutrients for smaller adult dogs", a supre nutrient to me what be a whole food, like .. your "natural" whole food nutrient... probably another synthetic SUPER duper nutrient added to make up for the
Fats.. but its fats that have been cooked at really high heats isn't it? That can't be good.
Salmon oil goes rancid when heated isn't it?
Haha, "NATURAL" that cracks me up, totally
I've come across SOOOO many dogs with kidney disease and heart disease and yeast infections and candida and allergies and liver disease and yes, the BIG C... why do you suppose this is... ?
From my understanding dog owners (about 25%-50%) are more likely to feed their pets wet food than cat owners. And whole Royal Canin annd Hill's state cats should be fed only wet food, according to consumer surveys from the pet industry magazines, 93% of cats are fed dry because of financial reasons.
And that kind of makes sense. According to Mallory from Cats, Purina ONE, which is the bare minimum to feed senior cats, is 70 cents per day per cat to feed in contrast to wet food which are $2-8 a day per cat.
Re: omega-6, that would be from red meat and poultry. The cattle industry tried to reduce the Omega 6 ratios, and the only way to do that is by forcing cows to eat fish meal. The grass versus grain debate made no difference in the Omega 6.
Since fish-fed beef are more expensive than grass-fed or grain-fed beef, you might as well juust feed fish directly to your pets
Regarding "quality of meat", you can gauge how well a pet food company handles butchery through measuring the calcium and phosphorus levels. Some companies like Weruva do a very good job of making sure their meats are processed properly. Most pet food companies do not. There is no requirements for pet food companies to list the maximum minerals, only the minimums. Some of that is changing in the EU now there's more awareness about senior dogs. But I doubt AAFCO or USDA and FDA will follow the EU.
@@KarenmitchellANI oops! Sorry! I missed this post if yours! Gonna have to take this one in chunks so bear with me!
@@KarenmitchellANI so dry food does not cause kidney disease. That’s a myth. The same is true with the myth that high protein causes kidney disease….. but if you have early compromise of kidney function, usually undetected for a long period, reducing protein, especially meat protein, and restricting minerals like phosphorus is critical. Plus added Omega 3s and a few other things. And yes, switching to canned for the added moisture is beneficial as well.
Hills is mostly grains; too much grain increases the carbs in the food which isn’t great for dogs plus it’s just cheap fillers instead of high quality proteins. No thanks! Wellness has a lot more protein in the first 5 ingredients which are the bulk of the food. Yes, the first 5 are important. I’ve talked to a pet nutritionist and Wellness and Orijen ingredients panel beats most Hills except for maybe the puppy recipe which is pretty good. I will definitely not be subscribing to your channel…very deceptive.
Ironically I received your comment while I was filming a video. Your comment confirmed everything I was saying so I used your comment in the video. You might want to check it out. Should be able to get it posted tomorrow.
Very deceptive because he's not saying what you want to believe? Because he's not in the "Cool Holistic Guys" club? No one is obligated to subscribe or share or like or finish the video, and you can disagree, that's fine. But really, deceptive? How? (Btw You're cool, Glenn, it's just... You know 😂)
ORIJEN Small Breed Dry Dog Food seems to be grain free a red flag to many.
🤦♀️ we get nutrients from food. All species eat food to receive nutrients. When kibble salesman attempt to knock the idea of feeding fresh food we need to think back when Nestle conned mothers into thinking their formula was better than breast milk and more convenient! Sound familiar?
Ingredients matter. Sourcing matters. We know this for ourselves but we’ve been brainwashed to believe that dogs eat “dog food” not “people food”. I fed Wellness before I knew the difference between feed grade and food grade. Thankfully one of my dogs hated all kibble but now that he eats real food he begs for it at every meal 🥰 We don’t know what we don’t know.
This salesman who is bragging about never reading the ingredients, clearly indicates that ingredients do not matter as long as the numbers are “good”. Can we just think about that one in a logical sense for a second?
Chicken feathers (can be called chicken by product)have protein in it but I can’t help but to think my dog would benefit more from a USDA approved piece of meat.
He pretends like he’s on your side because he talks about how kibble companies can fool you with marketing. Yet, he doesn’t point you in the direction of companies that legally cannot fool you. Which are companies that only use USDA certified ingredients (aka human grade). He only discusses companies that use FDA approved ingredients (feed grade). If someone truly cared about our pets wouldn’t they refer you to a company that has the same standards that are set for you and I? To actually ensure the safety and quality for our beloved animals.
Hills is feeling the pressure from educated consumers who want better ingredients and guess what?? They are also coming out with a line of fresh food! I highly doubt they are going to stop using dead, dying and diseased animals but I’m sure dogs will enjoy it far more than kibble, even if just for the higher moisture content. Baby steps are better than no steps.
Any food that is used for pets is not human grade. Foods can only advertise as human grade if their food is actually made in a facility that produces human food.. the whole human vs feed grade is pure marketing to make owners feel good about spending more $ on food.
www.aafco.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/HumanGradePFGuidelines-1.pdf
So sorry! Just learned how to filter out comments I haven’t responded to. I appreciate your input but you are wrong. Hills does not use 4D meat if they did they could never achieve the nutrient levels they do. Because you have been convinced attractive ingredients are healthier you will always be fooled by the pet food industry. If you’re feeding raw, please get a credited recipe. You don’t need to feed kibble. My channel is to hell those who choose to feed kibble to feed a healthy one. If Hills is coming out with a line of fresh food, that is news to me! I guess we’ll see! If they do I want to know the actual nutrients delivered, something you are not interested in. But thanks for taking the time!
Great points. This guy, Glenn, is a bit clownish and is pushing BS to his unsuspecting listeners, many of whom lap up this type of dangerous nonsense!
@@RipJewelscan you clarify dangerous nonsense with something specific… that has to do with nutrition? You obviously care so that’s a good start.