Elinor Donahue (Nancy) was a veteran of the classic TV sitcom, "Father Knows Best." Her TV mother, Jane Wyatt, also appears in the upcoming episode, "Journey to Babel."
Metamorphosis always makes me cry and when my parents sent me (age 14) to a shrink bcz I was obsessed with Star Trek, this is one of the episodes I told her was among my favourites. Alexxa, now that you've watched this episode, you may be interested in reacting to a movie from the same year 1967 but unrelated to Star Trek: "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" starring Sydney Poitier, Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy.
I wept when I watched it with my son. I think it made me think about my own life and how unloved I felt when I was a child and how I didn’t know how to love as an adult the way I should have.
It's a beautiful episode, that I appreciate much more now that I'm an adult. It might sound strange, but it also makes me think of the love that we have for our pets. Our pets can't ever truly understand that we love them, and we can't ever explain it to them, but one hopes that somewhere inside they can feel it. Thanks for your reaction!
In light of William Shatner going into space at age 90, he delivers the most prescient and ironic line of his life in this episode: "What were you doing in space at the age of 87?" 😁
Alexxa! I'm glad you've now been introduced to an element of canon in the series. Now you know who Zefram Cochran is, the man who made interstellar travel workable.
Good thing they found the inventor of warp drive rather than the inventor of the transporter. If it were the latter, I'm sure Dr. McCoy would've liked to "have a few words " with him.
@@photonicus That would be Emory Erickson, who was also the first person to be transported by his invention. He was played by Bill Cobbs. He was introduced in the "Enterprise" episode, "Daedalus."
Zefram Cochrane, from this point on, will be constantly referenced throughout the Star Trek franchise. He is to the Star Trek Universe what Gutenberg was to humanity--the key to civilization. That is why Kirk, Spock, and McCoy revere him--and rightly so.
@@stevejoshua9536 Yes! But...I sometimes wonder whether the future Ambassador Spock might have finally come clean and revealed the details of this mission for the sake of posterity. (The Fate of Zefram Cochrane is the 23rd Century Amelia Earhart mystery.) We could assume that by this point, over a century later, he might have felt no longer honor-bound to keep that detail a secret any longer. He might have left a final memoir about this affair that would only be opened after either his own death or long-term disappearance (which in itself would be ironic.) Then again, this, too, might forever remain a Star Trek mystery.
Glenn Corbett (Cochran) acted in many films & television shows. He primarily did westerns & almost always played the villain. Nice to see him in a good guy role. This is another of my favorite episodes, thanks for the great reaction Alexxa !
In the novel _Federation_ by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, we learn that Kirk kept his word to Cochrane, and left him out of his official report to Starfleet. He was forced to also say that the Ambassador lost her life during the mishap. But in the present, there's an Admiral who has it in for Kirk, and she has evidence that Kirk falsified his report. Starfleet received a distress call from the supposedly dead woman, voiceprint confirmed. How does Kirk get out of this one?
The Companion gave up what she was, an electrical being, and lost her immortality to become human in order to be with her love. That is a lot to give up but she also did it for him. He needed a human woman to express his love.
0:14 Mark! Howdy! 🤠 Whew! No one else mentioned it! Ahem. Instead of sets, et cetera, being shared with or borrowed from "The Andy Griffith Show" this time we get Andy's Season One girlfriend! Elinor Donahue played the pharmacist "Elinor 'Ellie' Walker" ♥️ She's also a "beach girl" in the original "Where The Boys Are"! A college spring break movie about college girls in search of... boys! 😂 There's also a "Where The Boys Are: 1984" by the way.
4:04 Mark! Actor Glenn Corbett! I was able to edit his name in to the cast list in "Wikipedia" for the original "Midway" right after I viewed my DVD of it. I haven't added a name to any list since, as I forgot how to do that edit. 😁
28:36 Mark! 694 Views + Mine! 🎉 Thumb Up #102! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊 Notes: "Planetoid" is the term that Mister Spock eventually arrived at. Retcons caused by recasting! Thirty-something ZC begins by looking GC here. When the older ZC is eventually seen, the younger depictions of him are from when that actor was younger! 🙄 By the way, my favorite movies of that particular actor are the "Babe" movies about the talking pig in which he's the farmer. During one of his award acceptance speeches he brought up Animal Rights, but the music interupted him. 😢 As I like to remind my cousin, Sandy, she and actress Elinor Donahue resembled each other very much, when they were young. 😊 Glenn! Check him out as a naval aviator in the original "Midway"! 😊 Yes, this is quite the love story. Spock's description of ZC's reaction reaction added to my vocabulary, but because I don't use it daily, it never got into my lexicon. 😉 Bye for now! 🙏
Without going into specific spoilers: prepare to see Cochrane again in one of the movies, Enterprise and Lower Decks, plus at least one novel (Federation). "Male and female are universal constants." "That is for the maker of all things." Two very 1960s TV lines I always ignore when rewatching this episode.
12:23 "I suppose, from your point of view, you're right." "We understand how you feel, Mr. Cochrane." Now _this_ is the kind of thing I find myself missing, nowadays. These two lines lay it out, bare. Is there disagreement? Yes. But is there also _understanding?_ Refreshingly, yes. "We disagree with your position, but we recognize that you, as a human being, have good reasons for it. We _understand_ your position." Human beings are frustratingly quick and consistent about disagreeing, but once upon a time, we also tended to be methodical and meticulous enough to _understand_ the positions we disagreed with. It was disrespectful to do _otherwise._
Not necessarily. "Zephram Cochrane of Alpha Centauri" probably implies he was the first human to visit that star system and/or it had a significant role in his life. Think of Scott of the Antarctic. He explored the Antarctic but no one really comes from Antarctica. He certainly didn't. It's also possible that Cochrane's relationship with Alpha Centauri was the first thing that mid-23rd century people--like Kirk--thought about first, rather than his discovery of warp drive and the impact that had on the future. This sometimes happens; people are underrated by historians of their time, but their stock rises for something else years later. We have a higher opinion today of, say, President Truman than his contemporaries had of him when he left office. The passage of time affects our views of figures of history. The people of the 24th century have a higher regard for Cochrane than the people of the 23rd. The first thing they think about is how his discoveries--and role in First Contact--paved the way for the future. Kirk first thinks about his relationship with Alpha Centauri--because the people of Kirk's time are still assessing Cochrane and his role in history--unaware that Picard, Riker, and company will revere him for wholly different reasons that they'd view as more important.
This is my favorite episode of the series so far. I’m new to the series and am still watching. Not because I was an Elinor Donahue fan from the get go (though I’m sure some biased does play into that) but it’s so thought provoking. Something about this episode felt different.
@@AlexxaReactsYes! Will be watching your reactions. This was fun! So far Metamorphosis and Wolf in the Fold are my favorite episodes! Metamorphosis still ranks number one for me because it’s so haunting and deep.
15:57 Mark! Hmm. McCoy's line about Tribbles being bisexual (hermaphrodites) as they are born pregnant tells us that the writers are aware that unisex females and unisex males, or if you prefer, "monosex", aren't the only genders. 🤔
This is an episode I appreciate more as an adult.
Elinor Donahue (Nancy) was a veteran of the classic TV sitcom, "Father Knows Best." Her TV mother, Jane Wyatt, also appears in the upcoming episode, "Journey to Babel."
Metamorphosis always makes me cry and when my parents sent me (age 14) to a shrink bcz I was obsessed with Star Trek, this is one of the episodes I told her was among my favourites. Alexxa, now that you've watched this episode, you may be interested in reacting to a movie from the same year 1967 but unrelated to Star Trek: "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" starring Sydney Poitier, Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy.
I wept when I watched it with my son. I think it made me think about my own life and how unloved I felt when I was a child and how I didn’t know how to love as an adult the way I should have.
Just a detail to clarify. Zephram Cochrane is NOT from Alpha Centauri, rather he is a native of Earth in the Sol system.
It's a beautiful episode, that I appreciate much more now that I'm an adult. It might sound strange, but it also makes me think of the love that we have for our pets. Our pets can't ever truly understand that we love them, and we can't ever explain it to them, but one hopes that somewhere inside they can feel it. Thanks for your reaction!
I love that take!! ❤️💛
In light of William Shatner going into space at age 90, he delivers the most prescient and ironic line of his life in this episode:
"What were you doing in space at the age of 87?" 😁
SO TRUE!!
Alexxa! I'm glad you've now been introduced to an element of canon in the series. Now you know who Zefram Cochran is, the man who made interstellar travel workable.
Good thing they found the inventor of warp drive rather than the inventor of the transporter. If it were the latter, I'm sure Dr. McCoy would've liked to "have a few words " with him.
Actually, that guy turned up a little later: on an episode of "Enterprise." :)
@@davidgradwell8830 Hmnn..don't remember. The character or the actor himself?
@@photonicus That would be Emory Erickson, who was also the first person to be transported by his invention. He was played by Bill Cobbs. He was introduced in the "Enterprise" episode, "Daedalus."
"Will the spirit, or whatever it is, go into her body?" Pretty smart, Alexa!
I try 😉
Zefram Cochrane, from this point on, will be constantly referenced throughout the Star Trek franchise. He is to the Star Trek Universe what Gutenberg was to humanity--the key to civilization. That is why Kirk, Spock, and McCoy revere him--and rightly so.
And also why Kirk, Spock, & McCoy will take this secret to their graves, as Cochrane asked.
@@stevejoshua9536 Yes!
But...I sometimes wonder whether the future Ambassador Spock might have finally come clean and revealed the details of this mission for the sake of posterity. (The Fate of Zefram Cochrane is the 23rd Century Amelia Earhart mystery.) We could assume that by this point, over a century later, he might have felt no longer honor-bound to keep that detail a secret any longer. He might have left a final memoir about this affair that would only be opened after either his own death or long-term disappearance (which in itself would be ironic.)
Then again, this, too, might forever remain a Star Trek mystery.
Glenn Corbett (Cochran) acted in many films & television shows. He primarily did westerns & almost always played the villain. Nice to see him in a good guy role. This is another of my favorite episodes, thanks for the great reaction Alexxa !
Thank you so much for watching! 💛
@@AlexxaReacts 💛
Welcome to one of the best and most underrated Star Trek episodes of all time. It was a beautiful love story.
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In the novel _Federation_ by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, we learn that Kirk kept his word to Cochrane, and left him out of his official report to Starfleet. He was forced to also say that the Ambassador lost her life during the mishap. But in the present, there's an Admiral who has it in for Kirk, and she has evidence that Kirk falsified his report. Starfleet received a distress call from the supposedly dead woman, voiceprint confirmed. How does Kirk get out of this one?
The Companion gave up what she was, an electrical being, and lost her immortality to become human in order to be with her love. That is a lot to give up but she also did it for him. He needed a human woman to express his love.
0:14 Mark! Howdy! 🤠 Whew! No one else mentioned it! Ahem. Instead of sets, et cetera, being shared with or borrowed from "The Andy Griffith Show" this time we get Andy's Season One girlfriend! Elinor Donahue played the pharmacist "Elinor 'Ellie' Walker" ♥️ She's also a "beach girl" in the original "Where The Boys Are"! A college spring break movie about college girls in search of... boys! 😂 There's also a "Where The Boys Are: 1984" by the way.
4:04 Mark! Actor Glenn Corbett! I was able to edit his name in to the cast list in "Wikipedia" for the original "Midway" right after I viewed my DVD of it. I haven't added a name to any list since, as I forgot how to do that edit. 😁
17:36 "And he runs _away_ from love."
Love can be a complicated emotion.
EXCELLENT episode!
Friday's Child is Loving and Giving.
You really nailed this episode! Good insights.
Thank you! 💛
28:36 Mark! 694 Views + Mine! 🎉 Thumb Up #102! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊
Notes: "Planetoid" is the term that Mister Spock eventually arrived at.
Retcons caused by recasting! Thirty-something ZC begins by looking GC here. When the older ZC is eventually seen, the younger depictions of him are from when that actor was younger! 🙄 By the way, my favorite movies of that particular actor are the "Babe" movies about the talking pig in which he's the farmer. During one of his award acceptance speeches he brought up Animal Rights, but the music interupted him. 😢
As I like to remind my cousin, Sandy, she and actress Elinor Donahue resembled each other very much, when they were young. 😊
Glenn! Check him out as a naval aviator in the original "Midway"! 😊
Yes, this is quite the love story. Spock's description of ZC's reaction reaction added to my vocabulary, but because I don't use it daily, it never got into my lexicon. 😉
Bye for now! 🙏
Without going into specific spoilers: prepare to see Cochrane again in one of the movies, Enterprise and Lower Decks, plus at least one novel (Federation).
"Male and female are universal constants."
"That is for the maker of all things."
Two very 1960s TV lines I always ignore when rewatching this episode.
7:15 Mark! "Other lady"? 🤭
12:23 "I suppose, from your point of view, you're right."
"We understand how you feel, Mr. Cochrane."
Now _this_ is the kind of thing I find myself missing, nowadays. These two lines lay it out, bare. Is there disagreement? Yes. But is there also _understanding?_ Refreshingly, yes. "We disagree with your position, but we recognize that you, as a human being, have good reasons for it. We _understand_ your position."
Human beings are frustratingly quick and consistent about disagreeing, but once upon a time, we also tended to be methodical and meticulous enough to _understand_ the positions we disagreed with. It was disrespectful to do _otherwise._
What I'd like to know is how there were humans at Alpha Centauri _before_ they had warp drive.
Not necessarily. "Zephram Cochrane of Alpha Centauri" probably implies he was the first human to visit that star system and/or it had a significant role in his life. Think of Scott of the Antarctic. He explored the Antarctic but no one really comes from Antarctica. He certainly didn't.
It's also possible that Cochrane's relationship with Alpha Centauri was the first thing that mid-23rd century people--like Kirk--thought about first, rather than his discovery of warp drive and the impact that had on the future. This sometimes happens; people are underrated by historians of their time, but their stock rises for something else years later. We have a higher opinion today of, say, President Truman than his contemporaries had of him when he left office. The passage of time affects our views of figures of history.
The people of the 24th century have a higher regard for Cochrane than the people of the 23rd. The first thing they think about is how his discoveries--and role in First Contact--paved the way for the future.
Kirk first thinks about his relationship with Alpha Centauri--because the people of Kirk's time are still assessing Cochrane and his role in history--unaware that Picard, Riker, and company will revere him for wholly different reasons that they'd view as more important.
This is my favorite episode of the series so far. I’m new to the series and am still watching. Not because I was an Elinor Donahue fan from the get go (though I’m sure some biased does play into that) but it’s so thought provoking. Something about this episode felt different.
You're new to it too? That's awesome! We get to experience it together 😊💛
@@AlexxaReactsYes! Will be watching your reactions. This was fun! So far Metamorphosis and Wolf in the Fold are my favorite episodes! Metamorphosis still ranks number one for me because it’s so haunting and deep.
I don't really have anything to add, the last comment says it all. Just wanted to let you know I watched. 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦🕊️
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15:57 Mark! Hmm. McCoy's line about Tribbles being bisexual (hermaphrodites) as they are born pregnant tells us that the writers are aware that unisex females and unisex males, or if you prefer, "monosex", aren't the only genders. 🤔
I don’t like what FIRST CONTACT did to Cochrane
Why?