Backstory tidbits. Kodos was faced with a situation where all 8000 might starve to death before help arrived, but 4000 could last twice as long. Kirk at the time was 14-16 and Riley was about 6 or so. Kirk took Riley in and protected him during the incident. However a rescue fleet unexpectedly showed up soon enough that all 8000 would have been saved , meaning it wasn't necessary to kill the 4000. It's never clear how or why the colony had no communication with the Federation or Starfleet while all this was going on. This show was written and made long before things such as DNA identification were known, so it's kind of anachronistic that it would be hard to ID Kodos, but that can't be helped. It's no one's fault they didn't account for something the people of 60 years ago wouldn't even imagine. As mentioned elsewhere, Nichelle Nichols was a very accomplished singer and dancer long before she ever started acting. Blink and you'll miss it: This is Janice (Grace Lee Whitney) Rand's final appearance until the first movie. She pops on to the bridge for a moment with no dialogue and that's it.
I always thought this episode provides an awesome back story to Kirk that was for some reason never again explored, except perhaps in novels but, even the re-boot, which was supposed to show his origin, decided to ignore this and come up with something that hardly makes sense. Basically, Kirk, as a child, is living on Tarsus IV with his parents who are then slaughtered by Kodos. Kirk survives and is brought to Earth to be raised by his uncle on his farm in Iowa. He would later emulate his benefactors by joining Star Fleet becoming an outstanding cadet and known for his serious and studious approach to life. "Bones, I'll be honest I was positively grim!" "A stack of books with legs" "In Kirk's class you either sink or swim!" In the first half of the first season Kirk is portrayed as a strict, by-the-book hard-ass, spinning a crewman around in his chair and telling him to "get this straight, mister..." was a common example of this. He would soften a bit as the show progressed but he is never really as bad or as flamboyant a character as myth tends to make him out to be.
Kirk's parents weren't killed on Tarsus: they're in a bunch of novels afterwards and Spock says in the 2009 movie that Kirk's father saw him take command of the Enterprise.
@@dupersuper1938 Yeah, but all that was written AFTER this episode. My point being this would have been a very interesting back story if the cannon gods had allowed it.
@@Lethgar_Smith It could have been, but I honestly never got the impression from this episode that Kirk's parents were killed, and there was never any indication they were before or after in TOS, even in the episode in which *spoilers* Kirk's brother dies.
@@dupersuper1938 The massacre takes place 17 years earlier(I believe) and I read somewhere that Kirk, at the age of 33 is the youngest captain in Star Fleet. That would make him 16, I think. I just always assumed that he was a colonist. Why else would he be on such a remote planet like Tarsus IV? Like I said, it would have made a great back story if someone had decided to pick up there and carry it forward.
@@Lethgar_Smith The stuff that came later explained all that, but even if you're discounting all that, at least half the colonists survived. Why would you assume Kirk's parents were among the murdered half? Especially when they spend the whole episode focusing on the massacre and not once saying such?
18:45 Mark! 854 Views + Mine! 😎 Thumb Up #103! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊 Notes: Notice how they had a chance here to show us the "Astral Queen" like they finally did with the "Antares" but yet they didn't?! 😮 Did you notice that for the sake of drama, this is the first time that a PHASER killed someone without vaporizing the body? It have her something to hold and cry over! 😮 To see more of Barbara Anderson in action, people need to like more than "Star Trek" of SF in general. I haven't seen her appear much elsewhere. 😕 Except in screenshots of course. Does he share a name with a candy bar? 😁 Oh, by the way, I don't miss your lipstick. 😊
Hi Alexxa :) The MVP said this episode for me has always been Lenore. She hid everything so well most of the timr. When she was caught she turned into a real black widow. I always c wanted to see her again in some way.
Sharing this fact with people who have seen this episode and Naked Time because it always makes me appreciate the writing a little bith more, even if I'm a year too late: Remember in Naked Time Riley is the one that locks himself in the control room and starts singing and goes: I'm the captain! We'll all have ice cream!! Considering he was a child survivor of a famine and genocide, you can guess his mind went: I'm in power now, so we can have the best of food ! and it's kind of heartbreaking.
Excellent reaction, as usual. This episode was made only 21 years after the end of World War II, and Kodos is a clear stand-in for Hitler and other unaccounted-for Nazis. At this time, there were people who had devoted basically their entire lives to hunting down ex-perpetrators of the Holocaust, and there was a lot of media (notably episodes of the Twilight Zone and Night Gallery) exploring the question. Some media, notably Kurt Vonnegut’s Cat’s Cradle, explored the possibility of remorse by the perpetrators, and what it would mean.
That’s funny. The crewman says something about a stolen phaser and that he’s on H-deck. That would be the eighth deck. As I recall that’s where, in The Making of Star Trek (book), the recreation deck is. Maybe that’s where the theater is.
Lt. Riley was the one singing over the intercom in "The Naked Time" episode when Sulu was in the corridors w/a sword & the crew was infected like they were drunk. Uhura has the singing voice of an Angel! Your ST Orig Series reactions are fun. Glad u enjoy the great characters who started it all. Nice you're not offended by Kirk's "Captain Courageous" swagger & demeanor, crazy fist fights, or that he's a ladies' man. All the stuff that made him fun! Keep watching the Orig Series & I'll keep watching. Can't wait until u get to "The Trouble w/Tribbles" episode. I'm looking fwd to u getting to the movies & The Next Generation Series.
Please don't stop at Discovery. Some will trash the ST Enterprise series (w/Scott Bakula as Captain) but give it a chance. It's the prequel set when Starfleet was in its infancy & before the Federation was formed. Humans in deep space for 1st time, making & learning from their mistakes (& limitations). The charm of the series is it's not so futuristic that we can really relate. You can put yourself there w/the crew. @@AlexxaReacts
Really good episode. And is one I don't see very often. Yes TOS Star Trek had a lot of stories that explored ideas and themes. Looking forward to when you see one called Shore Leave. Enjoyed your video.❤
Great episode. Funny that few pick up that the daughter, who was probably born after Kodos' escape 20 years prior, may only be 19 or less years old. As a teenager, it would raise a few eyebrows about a romantic issue with a starship captain. Hmm...
3:18 "Him and the _ladies."_ 😄That is the source of a _lot_ of good humor. There's a skit I once came across of Kirk, stranded, planet side, and there's this discussion on the Bridge about possible _life_ down there. Spock observes, "If there is, I'm _certain_ the Captain will be trying to mate with it."
My friend Bill Sargent played Tom Leighton in this episode. He turned 93 a month ago and is living his best life with his wife Patricia. Some interesting info : I've asked him about the nazi parallel for Kodos and he says he doesn't remember any discussion of that during the making of the episode, although I am fairly certain Kodos is a standin for the Nazis in Argentina. Secondly when they cast him and needed someone to play his wife Joe the casting director unknowingly cast Natalie Nowick, Bill's REAL LIFE EX WIFE. They were in the process of divorcing at the time, and neither of them said anything because they didn't want to screw the other out of a job, but Shatner's marriage was ending at the time and he made a habit of wooing all the guest actresses and spent the first day flirting with Natalie in front of Bill completely unaware of the history.
As always, when you watch one of the 1960’s Star Trek TV episodes … the question is what social issue or issues are they trying to address. What, I enjoy about this episode is if, the supply releaf ships had not arrived would the governor of the planet 20-years ago now be called a “saint” for saving the half of the population he did not kill because, there was just enough food for all the people.
When this episode was made WW2 was only twenty years past. People still had fresh memories of what had happened. And there were fears there werecNazis who had committed war crimes had managed to escape and were still out there somewhere in the world and never having paid for their crimes.
ST didn't pull any punches, and didn't talk down to the audience, and it wasn't just for kids. I remember realizing this immediately, when I was 10, and it became an obsession of mine. I seem to have had a lot of company, in that regard. In fact, there are some scenes on this beloved show that are really difficult to watch- or just heartbreaking. Captain Kirk gets *tortured* in "Dagger of the Mind", which, yeah, freaked me out- especially because Shatner was totally believable. "Charlie X', another kickass story, will put tears in your eyes. The frst season was almost all perfection, except for "Return of the Arcons", which annoyed me instantly. ST was uneven, for a lot of reasons- NBC tried to choke it to death by not funding at all, which started a national campaign to demand they not cancel it. The third season was almost too terrible to watch, unless you were drunk in up for a laugh. I think that, with "The Paradise Syndrome", they really tried.....but "Spock's Brain" can never be un-shown. Another good one for beer and reefer, because it's hysterical.
Sorry, I won't be able to. It's already a pain to get it through copyright. The watermark allows makes it easier to get it approved. Thank you for watching nonetheless 😊🖖🏾
Backstory tidbits. Kodos was faced with a situation where all 8000 might starve to death before help arrived, but 4000 could last twice as long. Kirk at the time was 14-16 and Riley was about 6 or so. Kirk took Riley in and protected him during the incident. However a rescue fleet unexpectedly showed up soon enough that all 8000 would have been saved , meaning it wasn't necessary to kill the 4000. It's never clear how or why the colony had no communication with the Federation or Starfleet while all this was going on. This show was written and made long before things such as DNA identification were known, so it's kind of anachronistic that it would be hard to ID Kodos, but that can't be helped. It's no one's fault they didn't account for something the people of 60 years ago wouldn't even imagine. As mentioned elsewhere, Nichelle Nichols was a very accomplished singer and dancer long before she ever started acting. Blink and you'll miss it: This is Janice (Grace Lee Whitney) Rand's final appearance until the first movie. She pops on to the bridge for a moment with no dialogue and that's it.
I always thought this episode provides an awesome back story to Kirk that was for some reason never again explored, except perhaps in novels but, even the re-boot, which was supposed to show his origin, decided to ignore this and come up with something that hardly makes sense.
Basically, Kirk, as a child, is living on Tarsus IV with his parents who are then slaughtered by Kodos. Kirk survives and is brought to Earth to be raised by his uncle on his farm in Iowa. He would later emulate his benefactors by joining Star Fleet becoming an outstanding cadet and known for his serious and studious approach to life. "Bones, I'll be honest I was positively grim!"
"A stack of books with legs"
"In Kirk's class you either sink or swim!"
In the first half of the first season Kirk is portrayed as a strict, by-the-book hard-ass, spinning a crewman around in his chair and telling him to "get this straight, mister..." was a common example of this. He would soften a bit as the show progressed but he is never really as bad or as flamboyant a character as myth tends to make him out to be.
Kirk's parents weren't killed on Tarsus: they're in a bunch of novels afterwards and Spock says in the 2009 movie that Kirk's father saw him take command of the Enterprise.
@@dupersuper1938 Yeah, but all that was written AFTER this episode.
My point being this would have been a very interesting back story if the cannon gods had allowed it.
@@Lethgar_Smith It could have been, but I honestly never got the impression from this episode that Kirk's parents were killed, and there was never any indication they were before or after in TOS, even in the episode in which *spoilers*
Kirk's brother dies.
@@dupersuper1938 The massacre takes place 17 years earlier(I believe) and I read somewhere that Kirk, at the age of 33 is the youngest captain in Star Fleet. That would make him 16, I think.
I just always assumed that he was a colonist. Why else would he be on such a remote planet like Tarsus IV?
Like I said, it would have made a great back story if someone had decided to pick up there and carry it forward.
@@Lethgar_Smith The stuff that came later explained all that, but even if you're discounting all that, at least half the colonists survived. Why would you assume Kirk's parents were among the murdered half? Especially when they spend the whole episode focusing on the massacre and not once saying such?
18:45 Mark! 854 Views + Mine! 😎 Thumb Up #103! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊
Notes: Notice how they had a chance here to show us the "Astral Queen" like they finally did with the "Antares" but yet they didn't?! 😮
Did you notice that for the sake of drama, this is the first time that a PHASER killed someone without vaporizing the body? It have her something to hold and cry over! 😮
To see more of Barbara Anderson in action, people need to like more than "Star Trek" of SF in general. I haven't seen her appear much elsewhere. 😕 Except in screenshots of course.
Does he share a name with a candy bar? 😁
Oh, by the way, I don't miss your lipstick. 😊
12:44 Mark! Hmm. 50% of his colony's population? I wonder if this episode inspired Thanos? 🤔
13:44 "It's _your_ fault! You talk too loud!"
Yeah. And in a curiously public location. In _TNG,_ Dr. Crusher has a private office.
Hi Alexxa :)
The MVP said this episode for me has always been Lenore. She hid everything so well most of the timr. When she was caught she turned into a real black widow.
I always c wanted to see her again in some way.
She was indeed a great actress and devoted daughter!
Sharing this fact with people who have seen this episode and Naked Time because it always makes me appreciate the writing a little bith more, even if I'm a year too late: Remember in Naked Time Riley is the one that locks himself in the control room and starts singing and goes: I'm the captain! We'll all have ice cream!! Considering he was a child survivor of a famine and genocide, you can guess his mind went: I'm in power now, so we can have the best of food ! and it's kind of heartbreaking.
That’s crazy I just started yesterday and I’m on episode 6
Excellent reaction, as usual.
This episode was made only 21 years after the end of World War II, and Kodos is a clear stand-in for Hitler and other unaccounted-for Nazis. At this time, there were people who had devoted basically their entire lives to hunting down ex-perpetrators of the Holocaust, and there was a lot of media (notably episodes of the Twilight Zone and Night Gallery) exploring the question. Some media, notably Kurt Vonnegut’s Cat’s Cradle, explored the possibility of remorse by the perpetrators, and what it would mean.
Thank you for that information - it adds even more colour to the character of Kodos for me!
That’s funny. The crewman says something about a stolen phaser and that he’s on H-deck. That would be the eighth deck. As I recall that’s where, in The Making of Star Trek (book), the recreation deck is. Maybe that’s where the theater is.
Lt. Riley was the one singing over the intercom in "The Naked Time" episode when Sulu was in the corridors w/a sword & the crew was infected like they were drunk. Uhura has the singing voice of an Angel! Your ST Orig Series reactions are fun. Glad u enjoy the great characters who started it all. Nice you're not offended by Kirk's "Captain Courageous" swagger & demeanor, crazy fist fights, or that he's a ladies' man. All the stuff that made him fun! Keep watching the Orig Series & I'll keep watching. Can't wait until u get to "The Trouble w/Tribbles" episode. I'm looking fwd to u getting to the movies & The Next Generation Series.
Thank you so much for watching! I will definitely keep going until Discovery! 🖖🏾
Please don't stop at Discovery. Some will trash the ST Enterprise series (w/Scott Bakula as Captain) but give it a chance. It's the prequel set when Starfleet was in its infancy & before the Federation was formed. Humans in deep space for 1st time, making & learning from their mistakes (& limitations). The charm of the series is it's not so futuristic that we can really relate. You can put yourself there w/the crew. @@AlexxaReacts
Really good episode. And is one I don't see very often. Yes TOS Star Trek had a lot of stories that explored ideas and themes. Looking forward to when you see one called Shore Leave. Enjoyed your video.❤
Thank you so much for watching and commenting 💛🖖🏾
Great episode. Funny that few pick up that the daughter, who was probably born after Kodos' escape 20 years prior, may only be 19 or less years old. As a teenager, it would raise a few eyebrows about a romantic issue with a starship captain. Hmm...
3:18 "Him and the _ladies."_
😄That is the source of a _lot_ of good humor. There's a skit I once came across of Kirk, stranded, planet side, and there's this discussion on the Bridge about possible _life_ down there. Spock observes, "If there is, I'm _certain_ the Captain will be trying to mate with it."
My friend Bill Sargent played Tom Leighton in this episode. He turned 93 a month ago and is living his best life with his wife Patricia. Some interesting info : I've asked him about the nazi parallel for Kodos and he says he doesn't remember any discussion of that during the making of the episode, although I am fairly certain Kodos is a standin for the Nazis in Argentina. Secondly when they cast him and needed someone to play his wife Joe the casting director unknowingly cast Natalie Nowick, Bill's REAL LIFE EX WIFE. They were in the process of divorcing at the time, and neither of them said anything because they didn't want to screw the other out of a job, but Shatner's marriage was ending at the time and he made a habit of wooing all the guest actresses and spent the first day flirting with Natalie in front of Bill completely unaware of the history.
OMG! This post was soooo juicy!!! Please extend my best to your friend Bill! Please thank him for his work in this episode! 💛
Riley's in trouble again!
As always, when you watch one of the 1960’s Star Trek TV episodes … the question is what social issue or issues are they trying to address. What, I enjoy about this episode is if, the supply releaf ships had not arrived would the governor of the planet 20-years ago now be called a “saint” for saving the half of the population he did not kill because, there was just enough food for all the people.
Kodos killed 50% of the population. He was Thanos before Thanos was!
100% 🖖🏾
When this episode was made WW2 was only twenty years past. People still had fresh memories of what had happened. And there were fears there werecNazis who had committed war crimes had managed to escape and were still out there somewhere in the world and never having paid for their crimes.
ouah une autre vidéo geniale
Merci beaucoup! 💛
ST didn't pull any punches, and didn't talk down to the audience, and it wasn't just for kids. I remember realizing this immediately, when I was 10, and it became an obsession of mine. I seem to have had a lot of company, in that regard. In fact, there are some scenes on this beloved show that are really difficult to watch- or just heartbreaking. Captain Kirk gets *tortured* in "Dagger of the Mind", which, yeah, freaked me out- especially because Shatner was totally believable. "Charlie X', another kickass story, will put tears in your eyes.
The frst season was almost all perfection, except for "Return of the Arcons", which annoyed me instantly. ST was uneven, for a lot of reasons- NBC tried to choke it to death by not funding at all, which started a national campaign to demand they not cancel it.
The third season was almost too terrible to watch, unless you were drunk in up for a laugh. I think that, with "The Paradise Syndrome", they really tried.....but "Spock's Brain" can never be un-shown. Another good one for beer and reefer, because it's hysterical.
Can you change your format? Others watch STAR TREK with a bigger box and no watermark.
Sorry, I won't be able to. It's already a pain to get it through copyright. The watermark allows makes it easier to get it approved. Thank you for watching nonetheless 😊🖖🏾