"Why sneakers isn’t ITZYs title track" (kpop HERstory)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- This era was so funny to be an active kpop fan. Feeling bad for the new kpop fans this time
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being a midzy during this era was not for the weak
Facts😭
Yall are genuinely stronger than anyone 😥
A MIDST IS SO FUNNY WAIT😂😂
a midst lmaoo
@@OGseoulitei meant midzy😭
I'll be honest not a huge fan of Sneakers but I felt like the hate train was so unwarranted. ITZY are fantastic, I got see them on tour and it was lovely
It was so weird?? If people disliked the song they don’t have to listen 😭😭
I went to their Born To Be World Tour, and I was scared at first when Sneakers came up. I appreciated the cheers from the crowd while they sang the song
I remember liking sneakers cause it was a fun song, and then seeing a massive wave of hate on itzy just because people didn’t like the song 😭
That hate train lasted so long I swear
i know everyone hated boys like you but i liked it it felt like a 2012-2013 throwback in a really fun way
I feel like it sounds like a more pop Taylor swift song
@@Natasha.Louisee yeah it does it genuinely sounds like a chart topper from a different era
yet 2012-2013 not old enough to be vintage or retro, so it just sounded outdated
I honestly found sneakers such a cute and fun song 😭 my bsfs who hate K-pop claimed that the song was stuck in their heads after they first listened to it 💗
Sneakers pops in my head sometimes as 3AM for no reason 🎀
@@Natasha.Louisee real🎀
This comeback was really something else 😭
My friend got me into K-pop right after this comeback and I remember her telling me how people hated sneakers and I was always confused because I didn’t see a problem with it but it makes a lot more sense now
Yeah it was just the whole build up to the release that got people to that “omg I hate that comeback so much” 😭😭
oh i remember there was a whole discussion about jyp not promoting their idols properly (although they have SO MUCH potential) and not protecting them. itzy though always seemed really cool to me as people. like cool and goofy at the same time. and i really like their dancing and the 'crown pose' ay the end (i think it's royal enough).
ITZY are some of the most full of personality of 4th generation kpop~ but they lost popularity because of so many girl groups debuting, and their company just doesn’t care about their girl groups. 😭😭
@@Natasha.Louisee YES they are literal QUEENS imo (and I'm not a stan), and it's just sad how jyp not doing their job as an agency(
@@cinemindblown I can only speak for Itzy but yeah Jype is really bad at promoting them. They don't buy ads and promote them at all. They won't let them be fashion ambassadors (solo promotion). So in jyp there are divisions and Itzy in division 2(probably the worst one). They had a group(got 7) before Itzy and i saw so many fans complain of the same things. Apparently now they have new staff so hopefully they can promote Itzy well! They're super talented and deserves so much success
@@ItzShelly247 oh(( that is just so sad(( sorry I'm not well-informed on agencies and groups it's something i heard from stans
hopefully new staff will bring new decisions and and a new wave of popularity because they deserve it!
as someone whose recently getting into itzy, i LOVE sneakers. its so cute and fun LOL
Ooooo I recommend Bratty or Yet, but. Itzy has a lot of good music hopefully you like it (:
ngl one of the biggest horror stories is whatever tf is going on with le sserafim, im a fearnot in the trenches lately 💀
Got a video coming about that 🫢 I’m so appalled by the reaction from some kpop fans
@@Natasha.Louisee so excited to watch, i need more videos covering it to that arent just straight up bullying 😭 my girls got flaws but jfc its crazy out here
Man we be in war. Kookielit and some other channels dropped the videos on the new documentary and the sheer amount of times I've seen someone comment about how it was a pr stunt. Shuddering.
Fr, it's so sad seeing my favorite k pop group just getting absolutely torn apart online
Literally it’s unreasonably hard to be a fearnot rn and I can’t imagine how it is for the the fimmies
All they need to do, is publish photos of them in royal/ professional looking attire AND contrasting SNEAKERS.
THATS all they need to do to be considered not scammy.
Like brightly neon Y2K coloring at the back ground of royal/professional looking attires. Them on top of chess board with chess pieces, everything is in black and white and glass BUT THEYRE WEARING BRIGHT ASS CONTRASTING SNEAKERS.
The contrast would let ppl understand it. Thats all.
itzy needs to be reborn
what infuriated me is people asking them to go back to their roots because they changed their concept a bit with Loco and Mafia in the morning to then just give up on them when they released Sneakers
eventually i've gotten into sneakers- it's now kind of fun
I miss the fun songs tbh
I remember getting dragged through hell for defending itzy during this era 😭😭 i think this mv and song describes itzy perfectly the hate train was so forced omg
It's seems like the hate train is going down... Only for it to be on another girl group. Feel bad for that group and their fans
I don't understand why people might hate different concepts in one comeback... it's so fun.... like skz recent comeback had simular concepts(1 concept is bright and 2 is roayl or sexy) i love itzy and I hope next comeback with ot5 gonna get more attention
I also think that a big part of why sneakers didn’t work is because they didn’t mix the concepts enough, during the promo pics as well as in the music video. There are few cuts from one setting directly to the other for the most part of the video until the final chorus which is so unusual for k-pop
I was actually pretty upset when sneakers released despite loving the song, simply because I was confused. I did grow to love sneakers and actually prefer it over some of their other songs, but I remember getting upset again when Alina of LYRE showed us 'speakers', the song that was pitched for the album, because I felt like it conveyed the message they were trying to give us "we are itzy in our heels or our sneakers". I love checkmate and sneakers tho, it's the most itzy-est of all of itzy songs
0:34 I honestly wanna hear more about how aespa went from so much hate and drama during 2020-2022 but now are considered one of the leaders of 4th gen i was a my since the release of savage and i was genuinely in the trenches trying to defend them 😭
I am not really into Itzy since I listen to no more than three songs from them, but I love watching their lives, interviews, and other tv show stuff. They are funny
I love Yuna so much 😭 she’s one of my favourite idols
@@Natasha.Louisee omg, she is my bias. She is literally so funny and I see my best friend in her 😂
I really liked Born to be, I just found their music the other day. I still have to Check out some of their other music
I really like ‘swipe’~ 🎀
Check out their GUESS album and their Not Shy albums. This are my favorites
Ooo check out Kill my doubt album (my personal favorite) or Cheshire. If you want a quick listen then then It'z different and It'z Icy.They have a few songs on those albums. But make sure to check out their Japanese songs, especially voltage or Ringo. Algorithm is new Japanese release and it's so good. Everyone loves their Japanese releases.
I was really reconsidering being a MIDZY during that time…
Why?
@@ItzShelly247 the hate…
ahhh thats history. p.s. when they came to london sneakers was without a doubt the loudest song the crowd sung along with and also the girls love performing it so i love that we midzys turned it around for them
A lot of people looking at the most popular groups nowadays don't seem to realize how absolutely MASSIVE Itzy were in the early days. Omnipresent, hundreds of millions of views every release, definitely destined for greatness.
Unfortunately I think that the majority of their fans were clout chasers. Big four stans, company stans, people who stanned groups for how popular they are rather than the music or actually liking the group themselves. So once Itzy had a massively unpopular release, those fans abandoned them in droves. Itzy are a really quiet group now and are only left with their loyal fans. It's pretty sad, and it makes you wonder how many big groups are in the same situation, only being successful as long as they don't make one big fumble.
What do you mean Itzy is quite now? I don't know what you're trying to say with that
Itzy has a very solid and large core fanbase idk why you think that losing main public appeal means you aren’t successful anymore? They’re still getting wins on songs, they have full crowds at their tour stops, they’re getting millions of views on mvs without any ads and minimal promotion from their division. A loyal and strong fanbase years into the game with so many more groups around now for people to stan is much more valuable than being the flavor of the month, because it means longevity, even if their “success” isn’t those huge numbers they had at debut.
People to this day are still saying “when are they going to release good music again” like clearly you haven’t been tuned in to anything they’ve put out post sneakers because they still have bangers! People just latched on to a reason to hate and ran with it
I got into kpop in the wake of all this. One of the first kpop songs I ever listened to was Blah Blah Blah (which I know is a Japanese single, but it bridged the gap for me from my jpop music to a kpop group). I remember falling in love with their mvs and the girls and they were one of the first groups I really found myself stanning. I loved Sneakers and Domino. And I can distinctly remember scrolling RUclips shorts and seeing a bunch of hate for the song, and the group themselves, and I didn’t understand it at all. Especially after seeing how immensely successful Itzy was with previous comebacks. It’s been really tough as a fan to see them go through comeback after comeback of good music and good dancing, only for people to continue to dislike them over something that happened literally two years ago. I hate how one comeback can kill a group, even if followed by masterpieces like Cheshire and Born to Be.
6:51 whenever I tell ppl I never drank pepsi nor coke in my life they get so flabbergasted-
Woah…. Like… never???? Never ever?
@@Natasha.Louisee never ever😭 I only drink 7 up as a soft drink help
OMG
Are we the same person or something! 'cause they way people refuse to believe that I haven't tasted pepsi or coke😭
@@dollyvivi_.ৎ what about at stores/restaurants where they don’t have 7up? do you just have water or wine?
@@RoyaleMusical ice tea or water or lemonade lol😭
Also, can't people just dislike something without hating on it? fkcing hell 🙄
Literally the song that got me into Kpop
The sneakers hate is so stupid but so funny at the same time ngl.
i would geniunely love concept photos showing prettily dressed members wearing coloured sneakers. it was definitely a missed opportunity.
i'm a big fan of itzy and i love your HERstory idea. yes more please and thank you 💜
been waiting for a video on itzy thank youu
Yay~ I hope you like it 💕
SHES SO PRETTY??
Thank you 🫢💕 (I assume you’re talking about me)
@@Natasha.Louisee yes girlie 🎀
great series and an important topic to talk about, sneakers was such an itzy song and people just don't get it
I love your Kpop content it’s really refreshing and you take really good angles exploring lots of different possibilities. As a huge MIDZY since day 1 of ITZY debut I think this is one of the best discourse I’ve seen about their “downfall” and I couldn’t agree more with the points you said. I love ITZY and their most recent album Born To Be was so good. Im a Lia bias so Im also so happy to see she has returned and will be on the next album. And yes Let’s continue to promote and support them always!
Also Boys Like You is my 3rd or 4th fave Itzy song after Not Shy, Wannabe and Icy 💜
I used to love this song when it came out lol, but at the time i had only been a kpop fan for around 7 months, so i wasnt completely familiar with the differences between the concept photos
I love being a mitzy and im so sad about their popularity drop . But i genuinely loved born to be and untouchable❤
jyp should have kept it a prank, if he actually went along with it oh man checkmate could have been amazing
Not really related to this series but kinda, can u talk about WJSN, Everglow, or Unis?
I’ll write them down 😉
I was a midzy during that time still i really liked sneakers but the hate train was so long thats the only thing i rememberd during that era itzy didint deserve all of that the one thing i will say is the way JYPE promoted it
can't wait for the hybe vs mhj dispute to be here one day lol
its sad this song was the song in my playlist without knowing it was kpop 2 yrs later after people a kpop stan
Could you talk about cherry bullet? I think their situation is really interesting
I’m writing that one down 💕💕
Sneakers on stage is awesome.
I've never quite got the hate trains for songs
You don't like - you don't listen
You can support a favourite group differently too if the comeback is a miss for you
Why hate it?
The way waiting for your videos became a weekly routine 💗💗
btw with your calming voice and delivery i think you should try doing podcasts or storytimes
id love to hear you talk about loona in this series❤
🙌🙌🙌Yayaya thank you for the new video
Thank you for watching 🎀💕
I enjoy this series! This may be a big ask but would you ever consider a "Lets watch" series of the survival shows that carries this leval of analysis
Wow you look so sweet in this video. Beautiful. Love your videos, I love your opinions and the way you speak. And when you call out people for their bullsht behaviour. 💕
YAYY THE QUEEN POSTED
LANIEEEE😻
@@dollyvivi_.ৎ WE KEEP SEEING EACHOTHER OMG 😻
@@lanietella FRRRR, DESTINY ⁉️⁉️😻
Ahhh hello my love~ 🎀
With all honesty I loved Sneakers from when it was released and the whole album tbh
There people liking sneakers theres people bashing sneakers then there is me who staned itzy because of sneakers
Something about ur accent is tickling my brain❤ And I love the way u show ur points...❤ really glad I found ur channel❤😊
I might be the odd one out, but I still consider Sneakers to be ITZY's best title track ever since its release.
Hey gurlie. Could you make a video about the le sserafim documentary? I want to hear your thoughts about it :))
I remember the initial teasers coming out snd just thinkiing "damn these are a lot of teasers, just release the song already". Then the whole 180 with the more bright teasers and people saying the preview sounding like a skechers commercial 😭 i am here for the MUSIC and I've always given itzy grace with their music because their music always grows on me, i do not care about concept or style of the music. However as a sneakers defender, reliving this situation made me realize again why it's not a fan favorite and i resent itzy's team for setting them up like this, and it's unfortunate that the sneakers era kinda put stain on their career thats still seen today
Sneakers definitely wasn’t as bad as people made it out to be. I think a lot of people were bitter and blind sighted that Itzy wasn’t doing a new elegant concept or teen crush concept (like Wannabe or Dalla 2x).
I also think the expectations for Itzy were just super high after Dalla 2x, the song was just too good and hard to live up to.
I love Sneakers and is my favorite music of Itzy 💥💥💥
tbh i loved sneakers when it first came out but tbh i did get tired of it bc i was listening to it too much but it was exactly what i'd expect from itzy either way tbh also can you make a video about kep1er? i think now is the perfect time for it since they just had 2 members leave and those 2 members are already about to redebut in another group in september
Im a boygroup stan and i barely know anything about most girl groups but please continue this series its so interesting and i love your content 💗💗
Genuinely, if the scheduler was for the comeback and for the tour, then the teasers may be for the tour(I've seen their merch for this tour, and it's has exactly the same vibe as the first minimalictic teasers).
And yeah, I hope Itzy will be remembered as the «one of groups who ruled fourth generation» kind of thing.
I really loved sneakers and it’s actually my favorite itzy song🤭
love your videos so much!!
I would say that their album photos and their mv's has always been different to each other while being on the same theme. Look at for instance the photoshoot for Mafia and then what the mv was.
I feel like kill my doubt was the same. What does boxing having to do with cake. Feel like their team is really bad at concepts for albums. They do still talk about self love and stuff. Apparently they have a new team so hopefully they can fix that
i'd love to hear you talk about Aespa! they were the first kpop band (other than blackpink) who really got me into stanning a group. they seemed so unique and the 4 members themselves are also really interesting on their own -- not to mention naevis and the whole ai concept!
YOU LOOKS SO PRETTY IN THE VIDEO WHAT
Till this day I will never understand what prompted jyp to do this, they set up this girls so bad 😭😭😭 I remember being moots with some midzys during this era and 2 of them privated and 1 deleted the account bruh.......
as a fellow sneakers enjoyer, the slander was not it
It would be great if you could do a video like this abt aespa and their hate train from around the savage to girls era! I think that also was a heavy hate train especially against gigi aswell
sneakers was the first itzy song i ever heard (and it was because i first heard it in a mob psycho 100 edit, because of course i did 😭) and i genuinely enjoyed it. i didn’t even know about the whole discourse surrounding it, i just thought it sounded fun and cute so i liked it. now that i’m becoming a midzy, i will say that i understand where the disappointment stems from but it isn’t the worst song i’ve ever heard so i don’t really care.
I have made my partner listen to Sneakers by ITZY without the promotional pictures, he actually likes it! I was so happy to hear him loving the song as I told him it was ITZY's most hated the songs
If you can I'd love to see you cover 9muses and the fact that they had fire music but they stayed nugu
I think the concept videos and teasers of the royal girl crush concept was hyping everyone up and then sneakers dropped was the complete opposite. In my opinion, it sounded like something for a commercial or back-to-school advertisement... it sounded very generic and more suitable for children.
I didn't like sneakers at first but after I few listens I got it it's fun and boys like you is fun too I heard them sing both live everyone got so hyped even my husband was into it i really like songs like Cake too i think its the style they do best fun and upbeat isn't something every group can do as well as they do
i just happened to get into kpop in may 2022 and itzy caught my attention, so i was beginning to stan them, they were my first kpop group. sneakers was the worst comeback to witness as my first, honestly. i still hate it, i felt deceived, betrayed, you name it. left an awful aftertaste and gradually left itzy fandom. and i'm really sorry cuz i know the girls can be 4th gen leaders but for some reason they can't. cheshire was a good release that didn't get enough attention, then they released cake, where they completely lost me
TO ME it feels like their music is going downhill or just stuck in 2019-2020
no hate to girls, i really want to love them and wish them all the best, but jyp gotta do smth... 😭
Cute concept and elegant just don't mix well. Cute and girl crush mix in teen crush kinda but idk. Maybe it's the song. Wasn't my thing. IVE did Baddie and Kitch and some people aren't fond in changes of sound, didn't like those 2. IVE fits girl crush - the rappers and Wony fit it.
I think hate for that itzy comeback get's because concept teaser was royalty and they just get something different. If firstly would go sneakers concept i think the hate were not as big as they get. Fans and non fans was ready for something else and that's a point.
the tiktok was what pushed midzys over into delulu theory land cuz why did jyp decide to spoil the entire chorus in some random low budget tiktok??
and it wasn’t just that one tiktok, they each had individual tiktoks doing random shit that had no relation to the album😭
I didn't even know people hated Sneakers 😭
I didnt touch the comment section and all, when I had my first listen, I loved it honestly.
It was stuck in my head during my NAPFA- 😭
I kinda wanna see a video about what was happening at YG between the Blackpink to Babymonster period but I don't know how much can be found out about this.
My opinion on sneakers as a midzy who "comeback" to follow k-pop around the middle of 2022 and turned in a midzy on cheshire era
i didn't quite catch the itzy hate train but a part of it, i wasnt that much fan of sneakers but i didnt threw hate at them of course - but also i didn't used to listen to it
Until o listen on a random playlist (and i was busy playing so i couldnt skip) and i realized wasnt that bad, it was fun, actually fun and it made me smile
yes, it's not a dark royal checkcame concept, it's not a wannabe 2, it's a simple summer comeback, a fun k-pop songs and does it's jobs
I feel bad for the girls, JypE "played" with them in a way by use a dark concept and then post a summer song, they didnt deserve the hate train that came from it
I hope that now that ot5 is back, their next comeback will be properly released and that please the fans (since some midzys boycotted the album born to be because it was ot4)
I hope the best for these 5 girls, and i hope they keep shining
And I like "Put my sneakers on" and "boys like you". I thought this girlgroup ain't that bad and got into Itzy's music a bit more than before (at least heard all of their title tracks). 💀
I think human makes mistakes. Artists, composers, producers are humans too and they will not always crank good music. It's okay to be very disappointed for various reasons and not like a song. But that is not a ticket to say Itzy fell off or they're now bad. Not to mention some fans spamming "it's bad" and some youtubers cranking videos as if people should be doing something more than ignoring bad music (according to them). There's no need to be loud and hateful about it. It happens.
Ngl, this kind of hate convinced me to take Itzy more seriously because what most of the fans hate is not even worth hating in k-pop sphere.
Great video idea!
I wanna mention how sneakers was released after loco and how loco was kinda considered a different song from itzy it was a more mature side of itzy or more girl crush rather than teen crush and everyone loved it but releasing sneakers right after everyone was convinced that itzy gonna release more girl crush songs or more mature music was so disappointing
Noo like i used to be a midzy during not shy and loco era and then sneakers came out😭 I didn't even hate the song but the massive amount of hate is soo crazyy😭 like befr
And then i stopped stanning them and yet i still listen to them so much plsu i abs LOVED the born to be era and im prob gonna stan then again!!💖
You should Stan them again ha if you want (: they came out with a new Japanese song called algorithm... Maybe that might interest you into becoming a midzy again.
The other tracks on Checkmate are great! Sneakers I don't like because the lyrics and sound feel like a step down in maturity compared to Loco. If it was released say after Not Shy I don't think it would be hugely hated.
Could you (G) IDLE's story, from scandal to success
Oh could you please talk about the momoland hate train, You are so majestic btw love you
honestly I think their weakest release is Born To Be, I'm not a fan of the song itself and I feel like all the songs are missing Lia's vocals, I loooove Untouchable tho it goes hard
I remember when the 1st tiktok teaser came out and I didn't like it. On twitter I saw the theories and I believe them. I was like oh cool that's so creative. Then the 2nd teaser came out and this time it got stuck in my head. I viewed it as a fun summer song and then boom I loved it right away. Their team isn't creative. I mean midzy don't like them. if there is a new team hopefully they're more creative. I mean they're posting covers! They never did that until Ryujin mentioned it.
heyo,can you talk about how cube mismanages lightsum and shows chowon in weird poses ever since the honey and spice era
This is a good idea, can you do the rise of NMIXX I think they were sorta one of the most hated groups to slowly getting more fans
Here me out. They could have done a colllab with a sneaker company Ike converse, but make stylish and elegant sneakers that would’ve literally been the best concept teaser ever❤
Why does that sound cool. Unfortunately Itzy team isn't really good at creative stuff. Heard they got new staff so hopefully they make cool ideas like this
I think sneakers is their highest charted song. I could be wrong since i dont care about that stuff. I've been a Midzy since debut, it was sad to seeing them go through that hate train. I can go on and on of all the dumb things they hated itzy for but i wont. Anyways i feel like itzy team (division 2) is bad at taking care of Itzy. That same team took care of got7. Their fans hated that division for the same reasons. They don't seem to have a great concept album theme that's connects with their title track. I mean kill my doubt album is boxing theme and thier title track was cake. Personally i dont really pay attention to that stuff so i might not understand why people care so much about that type of stuff so sorry. But i know for a fact that they're not promoting the girls right. Fans had to buy ads for itzy like really dude. Plus they won't give them solo opportunities. I heard they've fired the old team and hired new staff. Hopefully it's true so they can promote the girls right. Even if a lot of "fans" left they're still successful... I mean look at their tour. Also the hate train is slowing down. Their new album is going to ot5 and every midzy is excited. Midzy will support them no matter what.
13:16 i think that everglow, clc have a potential for a herstory video, maybe nmixx, red velvet also?
Oooo everglow and clc could be good 🤔 I think red velvet adding an extra member and the hate that came with it could be a good video
@@Natasha.Louisee omg you replied💖💖💖 Ive never commented before but im watching you since you had 3k subs and I watched all your videos, I'm just always so happy when you post, I'm gonna comment more so your videos reach more audience immmaaa faaaan
@@yellew6246 awww hello~ thank you for watching me and thank you for commenting 🎀💕 you’re so cute and sweet, I hope I make good enough videos for you to stick around even longer!!! Again, thank you 💕✨
Can u you do cometary on a group called young posse its girl group under DSP media they are a five member group with a different concept than most girl groups with hip hop concept thank you bye ❤❤❤
During this time they lost half of the fanbase
After that they don't get the same attention anymore